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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Monday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now. Thank you so much for being

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Speaker 2: here with us. We've got a lot to talk to

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Speaker 2: you about. Always the case on Mondays because things come

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Speaker 2: in from over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: We have.

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Speaker 2: Let me see here former President Obama weighs in on

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Speaker 2: the imaginary book banning phenomenon in this country that the

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Speaker 2: left is completely obsessed with. It's not a thing. There

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Speaker 2: aren't books that are being banned from public ownership or review.

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Speaker 2: It's just they don't want pornographic material read to small

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Speaker 2: children as part of the reading lists. But we will

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Speaker 2: discuss that a bit later on in the program. Republican

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Speaker 2: presidential candidate Viveik Ramaswami has said that he's put out

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Speaker 2: a list of people he would appoint if he were president,

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Speaker 2: to be judges and Supreme Court. Just Senators Ted Cruz

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Speaker 2: and Mike Lee among those he would say he would

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Speaker 2: consider for the Supreme Court, which is certainly worth a discussion.

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Speaker 1: For all of us here.

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Speaker 2: New York City is going to pay up to two

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Speaker 2: million dollars per person for people who took a teacher's

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Speaker 2: licensing exam in the city and failed, in some cases

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Speaker 2: failed numerous times, but they are minorities, and the city

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Speaker 2: has decided that because too many minorities failed this teacher's exam,

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Speaker 2: it must be racist and therefore tax dollars should be

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Speaker 2: given to people who could not qualify based on a

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Speaker 2: standard exam of competency in things like addition, subtraction, fractions reading.

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Speaker 2: They're saying it's racist up to two million a person

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Speaker 2: for taking a test that they failed. And there's new tests,

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Speaker 2: and the new tests haven't had any difference in the

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Speaker 2: disparity either. But that's something we should definitely discuss because

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court has told us that making determinations on

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Speaker 2: the basis of skin color is wrong, which we have

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Speaker 2: known here all along. We'll get into that. Plus just

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Speaker 2: a little side note. Remember that Disney photo drama from

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Speaker 2: Friday about the new snow White.

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Speaker 1: It's just snow White.

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Speaker 2: They've cut off the rest of the title that Disney

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Speaker 2: is making. Disney panicked and did something and then they

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Speaker 2: had to try to walk it back. We will get

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Speaker 2: into that, but Clay a lot coming in about the

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Speaker 2: political world over the weekend. First off, the fundraising numbers

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Speaker 2: are out, and we see that Wall Street Journal, for example,

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Speaker 2: has a headline former Trump donors are opening wallets for

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Speaker 2: DeSantis and GOP rivals. So the donors there's some switch

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Speaker 2: in who they're giving money to. But Trump is still

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Speaker 2: far out ahead in the polling and also is in

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Speaker 2: the lead right now for cash on hand as a

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Speaker 2: June thirtieth, What is this telling us you think about

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Speaker 2: where we are in this race. We've also got soundbites

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Speaker 2: from Trump and DeSantis over the weekend. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: on policy stuff, but just in terms of the state

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Speaker 2: of play, what are you seeing right now?

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Speaker 3: So I went back and looked because I was curious.

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Speaker 3: In twenty sixteen, Trump took the lead in July after

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Speaker 3: kind of a messy March April, May June, and then

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Speaker 3: really never relinquished it all the way to grabbing the

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Speaker 3: nomination than obviously winning in twenty sixteen despite everything else

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Speaker 3: that happened. So as I look at where we are

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Speaker 3: and I'm curious what you would think, Buck. I don't

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Speaker 3: think Trump's going to debate on August twenty third, barring

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Speaker 3: some major shift in polling, because he's opened up such

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Speaker 3: Assuming that we get to around Labor Day and there

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Speaker 3: hasn't been a massive shift, which is six weeks from now,

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Speaker 3: what's going to occur that is going to barring a

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Speaker 3: Iowa caucuses actually occur, because so far, nothing, if anything

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Speaker 3: that The thing that is most surprising to me, Buck,

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Speaker 3: is if you had told me on January first, where

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Speaker 3: would have bet a lot of money that Trump wouldn't

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Speaker 3: I think the Asa Hutchison's of the world are done.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Chris Christie slides in at five. I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of these people are having trouble getting attention. I

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Speaker 3: what's going to occur. I can almost guarantee you that

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Speaker 3: on August twenty third, on that stage the Veke is

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Speaker 3: going to come off really well. People don't know him.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these people are known quantities in many ways,

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Speaker 2: So I still stand behind my We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: in January, and I don't know what it is, but

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Speaker 2: there're gonna be things that have occurred in this presidential

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Speaker 2: race that we will say, wow, if only we had known,

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Speaker 3: Didn't happen in sixteen, to be fair, because so I

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Speaker 1: Nothing.

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Speaker 3: Trump took the lead in sixteen in July, and everybody

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Speaker 3: kept saying, somebody's gonna overtake him, somebody's over he ran

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Speaker 3: that he was the horse that ran.

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Speaker 2: The whole way. Well, you had eighteen candidates. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about, to be clear, thirteen. Yeah, to

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Speaker 2: be clear, I'm not saying that it's just on the

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What I was about to say is even Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 2: is being asked, for example, do you even like Clay everything?

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Speaker 1: You're saying, yeah, I mean, right now, it all looks

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Speaker 2: But you're also the guy who believes that Joe Biden's

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Speaker 2: not going to be the nominee and if the president

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Speaker 2: what's going on here in this election. Right, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have Now how much that will move the needle one

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Speaker 2: it will definitely change the dynamics overall of the race.

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Speaker 2: DeSantis was asked about this over the week, So I

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Speaker 2: in the GOP polls right now says about. Are you

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Speaker 2: running against Biden? Are you gonna run against Newsom? Your buddy?

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Speaker 4: Do you think Biden will be the Democratic nominee? Honestly,

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Speaker 4: I go back and forth because as an incumbent president,

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Speaker 4: unless he's willing to step aside, I don't think they

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Speaker 4: I'm fully prepared to have a Florida, California showdown and

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Speaker 4: let the people choose what's the better vision for the

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Speaker 4: United States of America, because I'm very confident that the

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Speaker 4: freedom in Florida is what more people would choose rather

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Speaker 2: I think everybody would love to say at some level,

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Speaker 2: and maybe that means twenty twenty eight. As I keep saying,

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a whole new doesn't matter whether

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Speaker 2: it's Trump or Biden. Let's say it doesn't matter. There's

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Speaker 2: going to be another presidential election in four years, so

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Speaker 2: the dynamics here are very different. It's rare to have

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Speaker 2: a former president and a current president running against each

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Speaker 2: other in this way, also at their ages, which could

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Speaker 2: affect this in ways. We don't have to lay out

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Speaker 2: So if you have a different if you have a

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Speaker 2: I still think Biden will be the guy. But if

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Speaker 2: Biden is not their guy, which I believe you still think.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that the Republican it's basically an autopilot.

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Speaker 3: I just increasingly I don't see what's going to occur

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Speaker 3: Republican primary. And I also think there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: out of the race because the more people that are running,

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Speaker 3: the better it helps Trump. And I don't know that

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Speaker 3: it matters in the Republican primary who is running for the.

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Speaker 1: For the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be Biden, but are

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Speaker 3: there people out there who are going to change their

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Speaker 3: it's Trump against Newsom, or it's Trump against Kamala Harris

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Speaker 3: and I think it would be Newsom who would emerge.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know that the calculus changes that much

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Speaker 1: I think they're solidly.

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Speaker 2: Program We have to remember also that you have that

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Speaker 2: Trump's numbers are at fifty, right, So Trump's numbers are

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Speaker 2: at fifty. All the other numbers put together are at

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Speaker 2: It looks like there's a guy who's winning and everybody

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Speaker 2: If things change, if things shift a little bit, I

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Speaker 2: you know, Vivek or Scott or DeSantis, once you get

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Speaker 2: to one candidate has thirty and one has fifty, or

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Speaker 1: And then there's.

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Speaker 2: The then that starts to feel like things could happen

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Speaker 2: and shifts could be made based upon how people perceive

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Speaker 2: electability and who's the best. That's also why I think

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Speaker 2: it matters who the Democrat nominee will be.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think the Trump people buck care about electability.

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Speaker 3: Like Biden got the nomination in twenty twenty because Democrats,

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Speaker 3: through James Cliburn, basically said we think Biden is the

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Speaker 3: most likely to beat Trump. Do you hear that much

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Speaker 3: of an elective ability argument? I heard a lot more

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Speaker 1: Now maybe that changes, but I get the sense.

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Speaker 3: That the Trump base is going to stay committed to

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Speaker 3: Trump no matter what. And you're right, he's got roughly

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Speaker 3: fifty percent, let's say, of the audience. But as the

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Speaker 3: other people, first of all, I'm not sure other people.

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Speaker 3: So it sounds like you think Trump has won this

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Speaker 3: I feel like, I feel like, looking at it right

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Speaker 3: now as we sit, I don't see anything that's going

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Speaker 1: Trump is a known quantity.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's just time to mount up

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Speaker 3: We talked about it on Friday, Matt. We've seen Biden

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Speaker 3: I don't want to sound like somebody who watches September

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Speaker 3: at polling, in July of twenty fifteen, Trump became the favorite,

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Speaker 3: and we really never saw Trump relinquish his mantle as

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Speaker 3: the favorite all the way through the rest of the

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Speaker 3: primary season. Now there were different challengers, and if you'll remember,

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Speaker 3: that argument was, well Trump really can't get above a third, Oh,

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Speaker 3: he's only got a round a third of the Republican

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Speaker 3: primary electorate. When it eventually ends up being Trump versus

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Speaker 3: one or two, and remember it ended up being for

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Speaker 3: everybody out there who's forgotten Trump versus Ted Cruz, and

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Speaker 3: then Ted Cruz was never able to get over the

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Speaker 3: hump and Trump continued.

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Speaker 2: So I also kind of just that the Trump wrecking

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Speaker 2: ball in twenty sixteen. The way it was set up

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Speaker 2: was it was almost like, I don't know, did you

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Speaker 2: ever play like Double Dragon growing up or any of

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Speaker 2: those like fighting video games. I love those things, you know,

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Speaker 2: street Fighter, but Double Dragon it's with each level you

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Speaker 2: had to fight a boss at the end. Yeah, now,

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Speaker 2: if you had to fight all the bosses at once,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't be able to win. But Trump, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was he took you know, he took down Rubio,

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Speaker 2: and he took down Kasick, remember with the uh was

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Speaker 2: it the pizza thing?

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Speaker 1: Was Kasik?

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Speaker 2: He kind of one by one swatted down these competitors

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Speaker 2: over time, so that by the time it was just

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Speaker 2: him and Ted Cruz. You know, it was too much.

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Speaker 2: He had already gained, He had gained too much moment

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Speaker 2: him from that, and so you know that was he

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Speaker 2: did when I was we know, and then after that

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Speaker 2: thing started to change. We have a ton of calls,

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Speaker 2: by the way, on this do you want to get

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Speaker 2: with the very perspective.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to agree with me on the but

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Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time looking at it over

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Speaker 3: the weekend, and I think, again, the headline is not good,

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Speaker 3: even if it's just reassigning some of your staffers on

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Speaker 3: the DeSantis campaign. It's a sign that they haven't connected

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Speaker 3: in the first sixty days or so. What was the

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Speaker 3: official DeSantis launch fifteenth of May. Yeah, something like I

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Speaker 3: forget the exact day. It has been sixty days.

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Speaker 1: In and there has been no Uh.

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Speaker 3: The argument was, well, once we really get the campaign rolling,

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Speaker 3: DeSantis will start to get some gloves on Trump and

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Speaker 3: we'll see some movement in the polls. Yeah, we've seen movement,

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Speaker 3: but it's actually been that Trump has extended his lead.

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Speaker 3: And look, there are other people who I think have

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Speaker 3: knocked themselves out, right, like Mike Pence has knocked himself out.

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Speaker 3: I don't I think Mike Pence's political career is over.

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Speaker 3: I think he was bad on hearing US.

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Speaker 2: Did he knock himself out, Clay or did somebody throw

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Speaker 2: at the elbow?

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Speaker 3: I think he was bad with US. I think he

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Speaker 3: was really bad with Tucker over the weekend. And then

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Speaker 3: there are people like I don't know, if you've been

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Speaker 3: paying attention, buck Asa Hutchinson is drawing crowd, they're giving

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Speaker 3: away pizza.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's a crowd.

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Speaker 2: You know how a conspiracy legally requires more than one person.

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Speaker 2: Can you call what Hutchinson is drawing a crowd.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what is he even doing when you're

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Speaker 3: giving away free pizza and only four people show up?

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Speaker 3: Did you see some of the pictures of Asa Hutchinson

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Speaker 3: events like, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Really Is it just so that we talk about him

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Speaker 2: as the worst candidate in the field. I mean when

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Speaker 2: I say the worst, I'm not even I don't mean

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Speaker 2: that subjectively. I just mean of the ones that have

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Speaker 2: some elected office. I know there's some other very random

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Speaker 2: candidates that are, but they're never going to get under

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Speaker 2: debate stage and no one's gonna pay they attention. I

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Speaker 2: don't really understand the advantage for someone like Asa hutt

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Speaker 2: for Vivek, I get it right, he can't look he

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Speaker 2: was strong on this show. He's got a national profile.

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Speaker 2: Now there's no question he wins, no matter what he

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Speaker 2: wins if he doesn't, you know, even up in the

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Speaker 2: top three of the presidency. And that's clear. It's true

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Speaker 2: of a bunch of different candidates, current and past. But

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Speaker 2: I don't get the I don't get the Asa Hutchinson play.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand when he announced Buck we said, I

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Speaker 3: don't even know who he's talking to. That's telling him, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I see a lane for you like I can see

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Speaker 3: Veviks what thirty seven years old. He's super smart, he's

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Speaker 3: a multi hundred millionaire. He's obviously had success in many

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Speaker 3: different fields. I think Ron DeSantis, you guys know this.

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Speaker 3: I think he's the best governor in the country. During COVID,

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Speaker 3: he got everything right.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you know what I'm you know what

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Speaker 2: I've seen that I didn't anticipate, but I understand and

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Speaker 2: I've seen it a lot. You have a lot of

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Speaker 2: people for whom their political reality right now on the

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Speaker 2: GOP side is Ron DeSantis is a great governor. Trump

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Speaker 2: is the guy that we still need to fight the

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Speaker 2: Democrat machine. You know line, You'll see people say DeSantis

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Speaker 2: is a rhino when he sucks, and it's like, guys,

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Speaker 2: could you.

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Speaker 1: Know that's a lazy argument.

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Speaker 2: That's a lazy argument, Like that's just not He's a

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Speaker 2: very good governor, he's a Republican. But is Trump the

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Speaker 2: champion that the base wants for this fight against the

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Speaker 2: Democrat machine that people can say yes to that and

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Speaker 2: still think that DeSantis is a great governor and still

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Speaker 2: think that. You know, that young kid has done a

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Speaker 2: better job than anybody could have expected in Virginia. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's there's room for these things. It doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: be this binary.

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Speaker 3: To land punches on Trump over policy, because Trump is

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Speaker 3: by and large motivating how people feel and once people

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Speaker 3: decide how they and I think, by the way, this

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Speaker 3: cuts against Trump some in twenty twenty four because but

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Speaker 3: in the primary itself, Trump is a he makes me

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Speaker 3: feel proud to be American. He makes it like it's

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Speaker 3: a feel thing. It's not a hey, well, what exactly

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Speaker 3: are you going to do on policy? As it pertains,

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Speaker 3: it's just a feel, And it's hard to attack a

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Speaker 3: candidate who is winning based on feel. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Like it's an emotional connection. People vote based on how

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Speaker 3: logic the vote. I mean, there's actually yes, evidence and

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Speaker 3: you know, empirical data to back this up. People vote

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Speaker 3: mostly on how it makes them feel to cast that

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Speaker 3: vote correct more than anything.

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Speaker 2: It's like I vote for this guy because you know,

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Speaker 2: I like them, or I trust him, or I want

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Speaker 2: him in this or I want her in this fight,

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Speaker 2: whatever it may be. Look, we got every line lit.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to some of that perspective that people bring

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Speaker 2: to this and also, just as a little a little

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Speaker 3: A lot of you want to weigh in. It's getting

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Speaker 3: late early. It's a phrase that I think sometimes has

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Speaker 3: a lot of mass peel. And by the way, maybe

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Speaker 3: we're going to be sitting in November and you'll go

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Speaker 3: back and look at the transcripts and we'll be in

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Speaker 3: a four horse race coming down the stretch run here

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Speaker 3: of Iowa, and a lot of you will say, you

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Speaker 3: know what, Clay, you were crazy.

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Speaker 2: I have marked down the day to be clear. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so we're clear. This to mid July Clay says, it's

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Speaker 2: all over. I'm taking the slightly less aggressive approach of

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Speaker 2: it's not looking good, but it's not all over.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, by the way, happy birthday to my mom,

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Speaker 3: who is July seventeenth having a birthday. And also I've

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Speaker 3: had the same assistant with our family now for nine years.

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Speaker 3: She is currently in labor. She may be listening to

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Speaker 3: us at the airport. I don't know if that I

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Speaker 3: mean at the airport, at the hospital. And Jimmy clear,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not looking good for the non Trump candidates.

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Speaker 3: If you're a Trump hoter, this looks amazing. So yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And how'd your birthday to your mom? By the way,

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Speaker 3: that's so happy birthday. Let's Travis Jake in North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: What do you think? How would you assess things?

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Speaker 1: Good day, gentlemen.

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Speaker 5: The way I assessed it. The only way the fifty

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Speaker 5: percent of us leave Donald Trump. And I've talked to

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Speaker 5: my friends about this is that if Putin releases the

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Speaker 5: film of Donald Trump eating puppies, then I might consider

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Speaker 5: leaving Trump. Other than that not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that a lot of people feel that way.

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Speaker 2: And Trump said very early on that his base is

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Speaker 2: with him no matter what, no matter what happens, no

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Speaker 2: matter what the policy shifts may be. So Jake, thanks

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Speaker 2: for calling in Tommy and Florida. Tommy, what have you

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Speaker 2: got for us?

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Speaker 6: Hey, real quick, Clay, I used to call your show

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Speaker 6: on OutKick all the time. Man, this is Tommy in Florida, So.

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Speaker 1: You appreciate that, great job. Thank you, Thank you real quick.

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Speaker 6: My point is, I don't understand the support for Trump.

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Speaker 6: He was off on COVID. He's the one that locked

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Speaker 6: us up, not Biden. He locked us up. He's pro vax.

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Speaker 6: He didn't fire Fauci. He didn't fire that Lady Rush

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Speaker 6: Limball used to call the scarf queen. And you tell

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Speaker 6: me he has not He has not won a popular

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Speaker 6: vote and two elections. And you tell me one thing

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Speaker 6: that he's done in the last four years to actually

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Speaker 6: garner more votes, which he's going to have to do

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Speaker 6: from independence in order to put him over the hump

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Speaker 6: all of them.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say, Tommy just came in and just

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Speaker 2: kicked over the Trump voters gatorade, just right in front

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Speaker 2: of everybody.

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Speaker 1: He just decided that's enough.

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Speaker 3: Tommy, Like that is the desandas argument Tommy just made it.

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Speaker 3: It isn't resonating, and I think there's a couple of

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Speaker 3: reasons that I would say it's not resonat because Tommy

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Speaker 3: just laid it out. I think that is a strong

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Speaker 3: argument if you are a pro Desantish person.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 3: I think that we're in a traditional debate does not matter.

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Speaker 3: I think it's almost impossible to land in upon and

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Speaker 3: sewn Trump, because again, it's a feel, it's a field

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Speaker 3: that the Trump based trust Trump no matter what, and

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Speaker 3: so you can try to say, well, you know, on Fauci,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't and and they slip and Buck.

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Speaker 1: We talked some about this on on Friday.

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Speaker 3: I am frustrated that the COVID consequence of COVID reckoning

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Speaker 3: is still not a rock.

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Speaker 2: We're like the radicals because we're still angry about it,

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Speaker 2: and there are others in the audience who are in

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Speaker 2: that category. But most, I mean most of the GOP's

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Speaker 2: moved on. All of the Democrats, of course, they've moved on,

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Speaker 2: except I still saw people masking on my plane.

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Speaker 3: Oh over the weekend. I'm asking to talk about this

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Speaker 3: at the top of the next hour. Buck, I was

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Speaker 3: all over in Arbor Michigan. People are in sin is

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Speaker 3: in camp.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 3: The number of people in their teens and twenties walking

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Speaker 3: around outdoors still wearing masks on the University of Michigan

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Speaker 3: campus boggle.

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Speaker 2: It's a social signifier. It's like the ones that have

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Speaker 2: put Ukraine flags, you know, outside their their dorm rooms

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Speaker 2: and uh and in their online profiles and stuff, because yeah,

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Speaker 2: they care so much about Ukraine. I would just say

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Speaker 2: Clay does seem like Trump. A lot of the Trump

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Speaker 2: supporters are hooked on a feeling and they're high on believing.

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Speaker 1: I'm Eric. That's a great song. Eric in Tennessee. You

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Speaker 1: got us next.

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Speaker 7: What's up, well, gentlemen, how are you doing good? Thank you,

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Speaker 7: thank you for taking my call. Him in Chattanooga. So

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Speaker 7: I left California four years ago. Okay, so a little insight.

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Speaker 7: I think the game changer is going to be if

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Speaker 7: Newsom jumps in, then then Trump's age is going to

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Speaker 7: become front and center and the issue. And I don't

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Speaker 7: know if you guys have heard or been paying attention,

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Speaker 7: but Newsom has been to Georgia a little bit, and

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Speaker 7: unfortunately you keep hearing Stacey Abrams name brought up, and

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Speaker 7: you know if it's going to be a Newsome Abrams

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Speaker 7: ticket that that could get really weird.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting, Buck, thank you the call and Chattanooga awesome town.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate everybody listening down in that area. Here's my thing, Buck,

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Speaker 3: I think the Biden age argument connects because Biden does,

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Speaker 3: he stumbles.

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Speaker 1: He says, it's different. It's different with Trump.

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Speaker 2: Although you know the the optics of it, I think

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Speaker 2: the optics of meaning truly like the the visuals, the

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Speaker 2: view starts to be a little more favorable for Democrats

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Speaker 2: if that happens. To be clear, I still don't. I

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Speaker 2: still think it is going to be Biden. But if

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Speaker 2: if somehow it turned into a demn remember it would

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Speaker 2: have to be a Democrat primary. There's no anointing of

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, so that would make a We're making an

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Speaker 2: assumption that he would come through the whole thing, which

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Speaker 2: I know there's data to back it up, but it

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Speaker 2: is still an assumption. Look at some of the assumptions

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Speaker 2: that have been made on the Republican side in the

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Speaker 2: last year then ended up not being the case. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be we we live in a

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Speaker 2: time of very interesting politics. Clay, and we have one more.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what is the name? Guys in Texas?

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Speaker 1: Who could y'all hear me? Yeah, what's your gatcha?

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Speaker 8: It's Lloy Lloy boy?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, what do he got first?

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Speaker 4: Lay?

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Speaker 8: He's gonna say. I was just gonna tell you, guys. So,

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Speaker 8: I'm fifty years old, and I always hear about like

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Speaker 8: the way the moms are going to vote. I've got

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Speaker 8: two teenagers right now, and I just I like, to me,

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Speaker 8: I wish that we could have somebody like I like

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Speaker 8: the VEC, I like Tim Scott, I like Ron DeSantis.

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Speaker 8: I would vote for Trump. I have voted for Trump.

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Speaker 8: I like Trump's policies, love what he did for the border,

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Speaker 8: all those things since I'm in Texas. But to have

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Speaker 8: someone that I didn't turn the volume down every time

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Speaker 8: he's speaking because he's so when he attacks somebody or

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Speaker 8: he's always being so ugly to people, I can't stand

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Speaker 8: to listen to him talk.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you for the call. Well this is going

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Speaker 3: to be the question right for all of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Can Trump get these moms back