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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hey, is this Leah?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Well? I am currently having a problem because I think

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Speaker 3: I have a problem with like talking people online. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I like made a fake account like two years ago,

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Speaker 3: and it's like still an obsession of mine.

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Speaker 1: Hmm, what made you want to make this fake account?

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Speaker 1: And what do you do with it?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: So a long time ago, my dad has this girlfriend

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Speaker 3: that actually left him because he's fluck with She fleuck

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Speaker 3: with my boyfriend, and so I made an account so

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Speaker 3: I could like look at her profile and like see

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Speaker 3: what she like was saying about us, and she accepted

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Speaker 3: my friend requests on like the stake account. So I

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Speaker 3: just like continued it and now I have like a

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Speaker 3: bunch of people on there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how long ago was it that you made

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Speaker 1: this account to look at your father's whatever's person's thing.

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Speaker 3: It was probably like late twenty eighteen, early twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: All right, so is a little bit ago, and what

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Speaker 1: do you use the account for now?

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Speaker 3: I currently log on daily sometimes more, and I just

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Speaker 3: like look at any posts she posts, and like any

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Speaker 3: of my friends, like my enemies. There's my friends on

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Speaker 3: that account, I guess, but like I look at whatever

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Speaker 3: they got going on. Like a lot of them post

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Speaker 3: like all their drama on there, so I can kind

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Speaker 3: of like get the inside details.

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Speaker 1: Is your dad still engaged with this woman or are

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Speaker 1: they done?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, they split up after she slept with my boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and why what what what is causing you to

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Speaker 1: still be interested in her life?

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Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea, Okay, but.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just the curiosity of it all. And

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Speaker 3: like she has like circles kind of close to my

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Speaker 3: circles of like friend groups, so I kind of just like,

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Speaker 3: you know, keep your friends close, your closer.

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Speaker 1: Your father's ex girlfriend has has a lot of mutual

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Speaker 1: friends with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well she was actually my friend.

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Speaker 3: First, but like she didn't know my dad was my god.

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Speaker 1: Okay, uh, who what give me an example of another

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Speaker 1: person that you follow on here and what your relationship

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Speaker 1: to them is?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, I wasn't expecting that question. Well, I have

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Speaker 3: like my ex boyfriends girlfriends on there, or like my

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Speaker 3: ex boyfriends groommates, or like people that are like close

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Speaker 3: to the people that like have caused issues in my past.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and you you log on every day and you're

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Speaker 1: looking at updates and photos and whatnot from Uh, your

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Speaker 1: ex boyfriend's new girlfriend, her friends, his friends, your dad's

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Speaker 1: ex girlfriends, all these people you're you're logging in every

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Speaker 1: day and looking at updates from them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much?

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Speaker 1: And how do do you do you get strong emotional

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Speaker 1: reactions from these updates?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes?

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Speaker 3: Like when I see her doing the same things that

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Speaker 3: she did to me when we were friends to other people, like,

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Speaker 3: it gets me really mad because people don't see what

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Speaker 3: I see in her, because she like showed her true colors,

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Speaker 3: so like to me, I want other people to see

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Speaker 3: her like that. But I'm not trying to like attack

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Speaker 2: Doing the same thing to all these other people.

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Speaker 1: And your ex boyfriend? When did you break up with them?

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Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, b'go them three years ago?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you still talk to them?

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Speaker 3: He constantly is trying different ways to like get a

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Speaker 3: hold of me, But we actually split up because he

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Speaker 1: And do you think about your ex boyfriend a lot?

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Speaker 3: I mean I have a lot of nightmares about him.

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Speaker 3: I have like diagnosed PTSD because of like a lot

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Speaker 3: of the ship. Oh, I don't know if I can

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Speaker 3: say that. Sorry, like he put me through Yeah, sorry.

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Speaker 1: No, no, it's okay, okay. And have you ever made

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Speaker 1: an attempt to have you ever considered deleting this Facebook account?

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Speaker 3: I want to, but a part of me like can't

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Speaker 3: that happened to me, because like my life has moved on,

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Speaker 3: but like my my emotions are still so stuck and

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Speaker 3: like that hurts, Like I got betrayal from like both sides.

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Speaker 1: What do you think is in between you and letting

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Speaker 1: go of this stuff? If you had to really really

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Speaker 1: put it under a microscope.

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Speaker 3: I think it's hard to move on because they're constantly around, Like,

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Speaker 3: for example, so and so might work with one of

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Speaker 3: my family members, or this person I see every time

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Speaker 3: I go to the store because they work there, or

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Speaker 3: like I because I live in a very like small area,

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Speaker 3: like to know where they're at, where their minds that.

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Speaker 3: But what I do want to let go of it,

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Speaker 3: but I'm afraid at the moment I do, like something's

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Speaker 3: going to get hurt.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: So you're running into just you know, as you're about

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Speaker 1: town living in a small town, you're running into your

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Speaker 1: ex boyfriend's friends, You're running into people from uh you

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Speaker 1: know that that time in your life, and that's making

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Speaker 1: it harder to let go. Yeah, all right, uh so

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Speaker 1: so let's let's get into now. Welcome back to this

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Speaker 1: Facebook account. But what is your life like now?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm married, I'm trying to have a baby. I

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Speaker 3: have a lot of fertility issues, so we're it's kind

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Speaker 2: Only option we have right now.

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Speaker 1: So you're married, Yes, does your husband know about the account?

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Speaker 3: He does, but he doesn't know like the details of it,

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Speaker 3: Like he doesn't know the name of it, or he's

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Speaker 3: not friends with it or anything, but he does know

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Speaker 3: it exists. But my whole family kind of plays off

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Speaker 3: as a joke.

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Speaker 1: But they not, just like you know whether or not

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Speaker 1: it exists. But does does he know the nature of it?

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Speaker 1: Does he know why you use it?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he knows that. I like look at people that

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Speaker 3: I've had issues with in the past, and I like

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Speaker 3: friend them and look at their stuff.

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Speaker 1: How does he feel about that?

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Speaker 3: Like I said, everybody kind of like plays off as

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Speaker 3: a joke. Nobody thinks it's like an issue, I guess,

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Speaker 3: But me, everybody else is like, oh, that's like what

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Speaker 3: girls do, like their little FBI agents, you know, YadA YadA.

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Speaker 1: Interesting And do they know that you've been doing it

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Speaker 1: for three years?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but nobody else seems to nobody else it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody just kind of thinks it's like it's funny

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Speaker 3: that nobody's notice as a fake account. Yet, like I've

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I'm interesting. Okay, But we know that it's

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Speaker 1: an issue. We know that you want to move on.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we if I've asked you this yet,

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Speaker 1: but do you do you have a desire to move

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I I want to delete it or deactivate it,

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Speaker 3: proferbly delete it.

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Speaker 2: But I have like.

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Speaker 3: Nobody to really like hold me accountable to it. Like

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm. I mean here's the here's the

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Speaker 1: great thing about this is that, uh, once you you can,

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Speaker 1: once you delete it, you can delete it forever. I

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Speaker 1: know that Facebook. Facebook does this fucking annoying thing that

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Speaker 1: they do on purpose where you can deactivate it, which

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Speaker 1: doesn't really do anything. This logs you out, but you

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Speaker 1: elete it irreversibly. And you know, I feel like, and

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Speaker 1: this is how I felt when I've you know, had

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna do it, I'm going to delete it,

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Speaker 1: take advantage of that and just fucking delete it right

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Speaker 3: But it all started when people were like giving information

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Speaker 3: So I felt like, if they're in dating my privacy,

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Speaker 2: It's it's just social media, Like.

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Speaker 3: It's not a reflection of their real life or my

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Speaker 1: Honestly, outside side of just like the nuts and vaults

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Speaker 1: of there's a Facebook account that needs to be deleted,

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Speaker 1: the larger issue is one of moving on from these people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which you know symbolically could be represented by deleting this

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Speaker 1: how can you move on and you have that you

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Speaker 1: have a whole life, you know, I mean the one.

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Speaker 1: The real way to move on from this previous time

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Speaker 1: of your life that you're in right now. You are married.

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Speaker 1: How long did you say? How long did you say

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Speaker 1: you were married for?

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Speaker 3: It's been a little over like six seven months?

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Speaker 1: Okay, six or seven months? Are you happily married? You

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've never felt so comfortable with somebody or so

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Speaker 3: like a wonderful partnership. Like I'm incredibly grateful for him,

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Speaker 3: especially for coming into my life when he did and

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Speaker 3: how he did. So Yeah, he's great.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So you're happily married. What do you

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? You sort of professionally on your

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Speaker 1: own outside of your relationships.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm a full fum student.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, So you you have a life. Yeah, so, Lee,

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Speaker 1: you're happily married, You're enjoying your life? What? Uh uh?

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Speaker 1: Why do you think it is hard for you, if

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Speaker 1: Sorry, No, no, don't be sorry. I mean this is

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of like really why I started the account,

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Speaker 1: Leah, let me. Can I ask you this too, Leo?

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Speaker 1: What what is? What the fuck is stopping you from?

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Speaker 1: What the fuck is stopping you from getting out of here,

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Speaker 1: And I I hate, I hate, I hate the idea

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Speaker 1: But what is stopping you from leaving? Man? I hate

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Speaker 3: We actually plan on leaving in next April or mark wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm so glad to hear that you're leaving, Leah.

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Speaker 1: I think I think you should delete the Facebook account.

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Speaker 1: just if you get anything out of this phone call.

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Speaker 1: Your brain is like wrapped up in all of the

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Speaker 1: and I'm just telling you, if you fucking get anything

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Speaker 1: because you just can't. Your your life is too valuable

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Speaker 3: I'm actually sorry, I'm crying. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: Fuck are you really you're deleting it right now? Yeah? Good?

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Speaker 2: Please delete it.

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Speaker 1: It's about time, please delete it. Yeah. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you give me that backstory, it gives me a

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Speaker 1: I hope that you have a real therapist, by the way,

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Speaker 2: We're kind of.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll make it more up to eighteen soon, but

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Speaker 3: good good. Also, I want to apologize for the way

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Speaker 1: Of course, no, you know, probably just for anything.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I I hope you really internalize that. I

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Speaker 1: They're not worth it. Your your life is too short

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, of course.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you want to say to

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Speaker 3: I just want to say that I had a lot

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for sharing, and seriously, good luck

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. You've been a really great help.

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Speaker 1: Awesome thank you for calling Lea.

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Speaker 1: That was super interesting. That evolved in a sense because

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Speaker 1: It started off like, dude, just delete the Facebook account?

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Speaker 1: Why are you still obsessed over this guy? And then

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm happy for her that she's moving out

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Speaker 1: and that is all I have to think about that. Hello, Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 1: is this Riley? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Is this Gekasur rags.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how's it going.

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Speaker 5: It's going, Okay, it's going, It's pretty good. I'm vacation

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're on a family vacation. Where Where at.

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Speaker 5: Montana?

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Speaker 1: Who goes on vacation to Montana?

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Speaker 5: People from Wyoming.

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Speaker 1: When I think of Montana and I think of Wyoming,

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, do you want me to draw you

444
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 5: a map with my words?

445
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: Sure?

446
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 5: Okay? So Wyoming is like just south and it's sandwiched

447
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: between Colorado and Montana. Right, So all of Wyoming is

448
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 5: like flat, except for some parts that have mountains, but

449
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 5: it's terribly windy, and all the mountains are kind of

450
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 5: like flame, and it makes it so nobody wants to

451
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 5: live there. If you go to Montana, it's slightly less

452
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 5: windy and there's cooler mountains. Plus there's rivers in Montana.

453
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 5: So but they're basically the same place.

454
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: Riley. It's says here that you have a secret YouTube

455
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: channel in which you quote do weird shit, and you

456
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: are afraid of somebody finding it because you fear the

457
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: reaction of your friends and family. Tell me, tell me

458
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: more about this YouTube channel. What exactly do you mean

459
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: by weird shit?

460
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I mean it's not all weird shit someone,

461
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 5: It's like mostly normal. But like most recently, I've been

462
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 5: working on a video about a snake that I found

463
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 5: that was dead and I had a funeral for it.

464
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 5: It's actually kind of a sad story. There's like this

465
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 5: little baby rattlesnake outside the door of the warehouse that

466
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 5: I work in. I was there late at night because

467
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 5: I lived in like a campground and like a trailer

468
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 5: and I don't have a shower, so I was there

469
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 5: late showering and he was so cute, so I took

470
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: a video of him, and the next day I found

471
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 5: him dead in the gutter. So I had a dramatic

472
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 5: episode and decided to have a funeral for it. And

473
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: I just think that's not really a normal thing to do.

474
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's nice that you, you know,

475
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: formed this brief yet passionate connection, And uh, I can

476
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: I can see why you had a need to mourn it.

477
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: Why do you believe that your friends and family would

478
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: respond negatively to this snake funeral video?

479
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 5: So I don't think my immediate family would be like

480
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 5: weirded out by it because they already know I'm weird.

481
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 5: But like my extended family on.

482
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: My dad's side, they.

483
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 5: They're a little like judgmental, and I get I get

484
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 5: some of that just for like the weird stuff I

485
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 5: do anyways, like they an example would be like they'd

486
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 5: be appalled that all summer I've been living in a

487
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 5: camper trailer in like a campground. They just think that's

488
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 5: that's not the way to live.

489
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: And so really, what right? Well, really, why Riley? Why

490
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: do you care what your extended f family thinks about you,

491
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: what you do with your you know time? Why does

492
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: it matter if they think that something you do is weird?

493
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 5: So I don't think it doesn't really matter to me

494
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 5: a whole lot, But I'm just worried I'm gonna get

495
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 5: like weird comments at family reunions, being like, oh I

496
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 5: saw you on YouTube, like playing with a dead snake.

497
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 5: That's fucking weird. Why are you like this? Because always

498
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: I already get like some of that.

499
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: Relly, Listen, you can't you can't live your life or

500
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: not live your life based on what your extended family

501
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: might say to you at the occasional family reunion. It's

502
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: a terrible way to live.

503
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: So, Okay, there's another part to this story.

504
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: What is it?

505
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 5: It is a terrible way to live. It's more like

506
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 5: so that's part of the reason why I haven't told

507
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: people it because I'm not necessarily worried about people finding

508
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 5: out about it. I'm trying to decide if I should

509
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 5: like tell people about it and like advertise that I'm

510
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 5: doing this and be like, look at the things I've made,

511
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 5: or if it should just be like a privately creative thing.

512
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 5: I'm worried that if I like tell all my friends

513
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: and family about it, and like I put it online

514
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 5: and I kind of brand myself with it, that like

515
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 5: I may have to take on some responsibility of being

516
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 5: like an influencer, and I'm not sure if I want

517
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 5: to be in the spotlight like that, even if it's

518
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: only like with five thousand people or like less.

519
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: Okay, let's explore that you make these videos, You make

520
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: them at this at this very moment. You make them

521
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: for an audience of virtually no one. Correct yes, myself, okay,

522
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: you make them for yourself out of your own enjoyments.

523
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: You are debating whether or not to take it further

524
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: and attempt to actually have people watch these things that

525
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 1: you do. You're like a I don't want to use

526
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: the word vlogger, but you do miscellaneous non you do miscellaneous,

527
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: somewhat deviant things such as hold funerals for snakes. Yeah,

528
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: you enjoy doing those things. You enjoy documenting them just

529
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: for yourself, and you're wondering whether or not you should

530
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: show them to other people. Okay, so when you are

531
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: thinking about the pros as to why you might want

532
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: an audience of people to watch you hold snake funerals,

533
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: what would those pros be?

534
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 5: So I think about the financial incentive for sure, if

535
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 5: it ever came to that, I wouldn't I don't think

536
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 5: I would like leave my career path to be like run.

537
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: Off to be YouTuber.

538
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: But if it ever got like big enough to make

539
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: a little bit of money, that would be nice. Not

540
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 5: gonna lie, I don't know.

541
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: That's the kind.

542
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 5: Of lifestyle I want to live. M Yeah. Especially the

543
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 5: kind of lifestyle I want to live is a little

544
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 5: more remote and like the harder, be harder to pull

545
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 5: down like a sable job. So there's a lot of

546
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: freedom within that if I were able to make money

547
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: from it one day?

548
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: Uh you know, right? I think that's a I I

549
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: think that's a legitimate that's a legitimate reason to to

550
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: want to do that. I think that there is a

551
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: lot of I think there's a lot to be gained

552
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: on trying to build a business based on the things

553
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: that you're passionate about. And I think that that is

554
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: uh completely within reason for you to do, if that's

555
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: what you want to do.

556
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

557
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: Uh So tell me more about the cons then.

558
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 5: Well, I would be kind of putting myself out there.

559
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 5: And like, I think that there's a certain there's a

560
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 5: certain desirability to privacy, and that's something that I really

561
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 5: tend to value just general, Like I don't I want

562
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 5: people like kind of around me. I like, I like

563
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 5: my stuff to be very private, and I know that

564
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 5: about myself. So I'm worried that eventually, if people were

565
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 5: to watch this, I would feel like I'm losing some

566
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 5: of that and like that would bother me eventually, But

567
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 5: I'm not sure because I've never been in that scenario.

568
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you advice that I think I'm

569
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: one of the only few people that can I can

570
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: give this. You should wear a costume of some kind.

571
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm serious I'm serious.

572
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 5: You know that's not a bad idea.

573
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: I should wear costumes because I go out in public

574
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: and nobody has ever, ever, ever with no costume. It's

575
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: happened maybe two or three times where somebody has said

576
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: to me, hey, you're the guy from TikTok. When I

577
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: wear the costume, I get it a lot. But if

578
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing the costume, I have my complete another privacy.

579
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: So if you're afraid of that, but you still want

580
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: to try to build a brand their business on being

581
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: yourself and doing the things that you enjoy, which I

582
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: think is a worthwhile thing to pursue. I really do.

583
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you know, people might have their opinions

584
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: of whatever, but I think it's a worthwhile thing to do.

585
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: If you want to do it and you're concerned about

586
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: your privacy, wear a costume, maybe a snake, and then

587
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: do your vlogs or whatever it is you do.

588
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna ask you what kind of costume

589
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 5: should I wear?

590
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: I can't tell you that. You have to decide that

591
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: on your own. That gecko came to me, okay, and

592
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 1: your animal will come to you as well.

593
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 5: Did it did it come to you in a dream

594
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: or like a vision or did it just like hit you.

595
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: At you?

596
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 5: Oh that makes sense, Riley.

597
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean this is before we go. Do you out

598
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: of the tell me? Tell me your flat out of

599
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: out of what I have told you over the course

600
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: of this conversation. What are your thoughts.

601
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 5: I'm thinking that I don't know if the costume I

602
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 5: do would work for me. I think it's a good idea,

603
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 5: but some of the contents I also make is like

604
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 5: nature based, where I like hike because I'm like a

605
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 5: like a park ranger kind of, and so I make

606
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 5: a lot of like outdoor content, and I don't know

607
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: if it would be all that practical for me to

608
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 5: walk around at work and like when I'm outside hiking

609
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 5: in like a tiger costume or something.

610
00:36:59,560 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

611
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 5: But I'm kind of leaning towards putting it out there

612
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 5: just to kind of see what happens with it.

613
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I think you know what I I don't like.

614
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I like doing it, and I think that

615
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 5: as long as I like doing it, that if people watch,

616
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: it's okay. But I'm not sure, Like I'm scared of

617
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 5: what can happen in the future. But I'm do not

618
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 5: think about that.

619
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, two final things with that is, uh,

620
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: you know you're afraid, you're you're telling me that you're

621
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: afraid of like what your extended family will think of

622
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: you doing these snake funerals. And you know, Riley, your

623
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: life is going to be a lot better if you

624
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: choose to just fucking live freely and not give a

625
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: fuck about what people think of you. And if you

626
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: want to maintain your privacy. This is the second thing.

627
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways for you to do that.

628
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, so there are some extremely famous and successful

629
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Internet people who have never shown their faces before. You

630
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: could just make videos where you are hiking through the

631
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: woods and just talking and the camera is facing the

632
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: the trail. I mean, you could give your snake funeral

633
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: video without showing your face. So there's a lot of

634
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: different ways to do it if you want to do it.

635
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: But uh, try try and get over fixating on what

636
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: your extended family or anyone else on the internet might

637
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: think of you and what you do.

638
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 5: You know, Gek, that's a really good point. I didn't

639
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 5: really consider just not putting my face in it.

640
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to. You can make a really

641
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: good videos without putting your face in there. Yeah, no,

642
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean there's that's the thing if you scroll through,

643
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: if you I dude, I could talk about TikTok and

644
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: the Internet creator economy shit forever because like, if you

645
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: scroll through TikTok or YouTube, you will find many, many,

646
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: many creative people who have found uh different ways to

647
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: express themselves that are not the standard. Hey, how's it going, guys?

648
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: Welcome back to my whatever fucking thing?

649
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 5: You know?

650
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: So take that into consideration. Uh, is there anything else

651
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: want to say to the people in the computer before

652
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: we go? Riley?

653
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 5: You know what, I'm feeling spontaneous and aspired inspired right now?

654
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:22,479
Speaker 1: Good?

655
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 5: And I think I should just do it. Can I

656
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 5: plug myself.

657
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: If you would like too? Sure?

658
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 5: Okay, Uh, it's Riley does Alaska.

659
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: You live in Alaska?

660
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 5: I lived in Alaska. I don't live in Alaska anymore.

661
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: I want to live in Riley does Alaska. Okay. I'm

662
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna check out your videos because I'm trying to go

663
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Speaker 1: to Alaska soon and maybe they'll have some insight for him.

664
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Speaker 5: Okay, I'll be your tour guide.

665
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: Where where in Alaska? Yeah you don't have to tell

666
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: me out hit, but where in Alaska. Should I go?

667
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: If I want to be a get go there and

668
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: do stuff.

669
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 5: Any grades are cool. There's a lot of people there.

670
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 5: But if you want to like see real Alaskan people,

671
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 5: go to Fairbanks because they're they're gruff and tumble up

672
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 5: in Fairbanks and ghosted on the University of Alaska Fairbanks campus.

673
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Man. I didn't know they had college in Alaska. I

674
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: thought it was just like bears. Thank you for calling Riley.

675
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 5: Thanks guys, five, Let's.

676
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: Talk to Kimbo. How are you, Kimbo?

677
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 6: Oh, there's a Yeah, I'm good.

678
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 4: I'm good.

679
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 6: I actually I have COVID right now, but I'm doing good.

680
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: What's going on with you?

681
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 6: So the past year I have been recovering from a

682
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 6: traumatic brain injury that I sustained at work, and I'm

683
00:40:53,640 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 6: started in grad school estimated the month with accommodations and yeah,

684
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 6: a lot going on with that.

685
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: Well, Can I can I mention what you told the

686
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: call screener?

687
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

688
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it says here that you are a future sex therapist.

689
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: I assume that's what you're going to grad school for.

690
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 6: What I'm going to school for.

691
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: And you are having trouble finding love?

692
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, that sounds really cheaty to hear it repeated back

693
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 6: to me. But it's true.

694
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: Okay, are you? Are you in your head? Like I'm

695
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: gonna start projecting onto you and you tell me if

696
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: it's accurate in your head?

697
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 6: Are you?

698
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: Like?

699
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to help couples with sex therapy

700
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: if if I myself cannot find love.

701
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 6: I've definitely had that creeping fear. But I don't know.

702
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 6: I like I've reflected on my situation, Like, first of all,

703
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 6: when you have a traumatic brain injury, you should not

704
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 6: date people. That's a that's not good. But I now

705
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 6: that I've been cleared to start approaching life again by

706
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 6: my neurologist, I'm like, oh man, I don't really have

707
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 6: an excuse anymore, and I have to actually like start

708
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 6: dating again, and I don't really enjoy dating.

709
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if I could back up for like a

710
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: second here, If I go back up for a second,

711
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: you laugh, because you know what I'm gonna say. Why

712
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: you're why is this so immediately presenting itself as like

713
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: a chore that you have to do? Why do you

714
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: why do you? Why are you saying it like that

715
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: you that you have to now go out and date people?

716
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 6: Well, well, no, I guess it's not. I guess I

717
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 6: was talking about it like it's a chore. It's more like, well,

718
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 6: like like there are people I'm interested in. I think

719
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 6: it's because. Okay, So I'm I'm semisexual, which means I

720
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 6: can't really use dating apps or things like that because

721
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 6: I need an emotional connection before I can even find

722
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 6: a person attractive. So so just I feel like everything,

723
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 6: like I feel like most of dating right now is

724
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 6: dating apps and then i'm I'm trying. I also I

725
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 6: want I want my my partner to be Jewish, and

726
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 6: that just really narrows the dating pool. And yeah, I

727
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 6: just I do feel like my intersection, my intersecting identities

728
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 6: dating difficult. But it also means that I really understand myself.

729
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: I was going to say, no, I was going to say,

730
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: you're on the hunt for an n j M. Nice,

731
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: a nice Jewish man. Sorry, continue, I want to hear

732
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: the rest of your of your thoughts about this this

733
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: area of your life.

734
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 6: So okay, So I'm I'm feminine, presenting, non binary, I'm Jewish, demisexual,

735
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 6: I'm pan sexual. I'm kinky, but I'm not kinky until

736
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 6: once we start having sex. So I go from basically

737
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 6: like very very like asexual to being very sexual, and which,

738
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 6: like anyone anyone listening to this who has dated a

739
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 6: demisexual can understand why that would be confusing or frustrating.

740
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: And you know, it's a shame that you don't like

741
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: the dating ass because you just wrote yourself a very

742
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: descriptive dating profile bio.

743
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank well. I really know myself, but I've

744
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 6: also been told that I'm extremely intimidating for all those reasons.

745
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So I've got a couple questions for you.

746
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: One is, uh, why why are you looking for a partner.

747
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 6: I'm a very romantic person and I love infusing romance

748
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 6: into my own life, my my friendships, my relationship with

749
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 6: the universe. But I would like to be able to

750
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 6: channel that into a person or people romantically. That would

751
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 6: be really nice. And I just I've been i haven't

752
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 6: been in a relationship that's been longer than six months

753
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 6: in almost six years, So I just feel like I've

754
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 6: had a lot of time to get to know myself

755
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 6: and I really want to share myself with others romantically.

756
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: That was a very poetic and introspective answer, which is

757
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: that's a good sign.

758
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 6: That's that's better than I am a very poetic, introspective person.

759
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: That's a lot better than just saying I'm afraid to

760
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: be alone. So that's a good place to start. Okay,

761
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: Now I want.

762
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 6: To actually enjoy my own company a little too much.

763
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, No, I understand that. I understand that I want. Okay,

764
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: so let's go back to at the very beginning of this,

765
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: you were like looking at dating as a chore and

766
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: you were like, oh, I have to date again, and

767
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: you were saying it in this very negative way, and

768
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: then us, now you gave us this whole I am

769
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: a romantic person. I want to share a part of myself,

770
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: which is like the complete opposite of the way that

771
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: you were describing your romantic vision at the beginning of this. Right, Okay,

772
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: So would you say that what you just said now

773
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: is more reflective of the truth.

774
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: Yes.

775
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 6: I think part of the problem is that I am

776
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 6: clearly picky, Like I know, I've been single long enough

777
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 6: to know exactly what I want, so it's not as

778
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 6: if I don't have opportunities. I think I'm also oblivious

779
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 6: when people are into me, which is another layer to this.

780
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 6: So I think the way I was talking about dating

781
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 6: before is reflective of my apprehension around miscommunications that can occur.

782
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: Mm hm uh. I think being picky is a good

783
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: thing in most aspects of life. I think, I think

784
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: I don't know at most and a lot of aspects

785
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: of life, being picky is a good thing. And I

786
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: think you know with your romantic partner. Yeah, if you

787
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: fucking should be picky. You're trying to find a person

788
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: to be with for the rest of your life, you

789
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: should be extremely picky about that if that's what you

790
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: are looking for. But I do want to try. I

791
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: want to try to change your mind on one thing.

792
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 6: Oh, let's hear it.

793
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: I think I think that if you are really in

794
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate dating apps. I don't. I don't

795
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: like them at all. But I feel like if you're

796
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: trying to put yourself out there for the maximum opportunity

797
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: to meet the kind of person that you want to meet,

798
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: I think you should be less afraid of them.

799
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 6: I'm not afraid of the app. I'm actually more I'm

800
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 6: not trying to dismiss what you're saying. I appreciate your

801
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 6: approach to this.

802
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: No, I'm down.

803
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 6: No, No. Repexually dismissing you. I feel that the apps

804
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 6: are a misrepresentation of opportunity, we think, because we're seeing

805
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 6: hundreds of people a day scroll past us. Especially if

806
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 6: you're like myself and you select everyone as far as

807
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 6: who has shown to you, those aren't truly opportunities. There's

808
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 6: you know, there's probably only a few people on that

809
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 6: app that you can truly connect with. And I have

810
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 6: found in my experience of dating apps that people grossly

811
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 6: misrepresent themselves, and I show up extremely authentically. I feel

812
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 6: that people wear a mask when they're dating, which we

813
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 6: all do to a degree, because we want to represent

814
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 6: the best parts of ourselves, right, We want make a

815
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 6: good impression. But I accept the bad parts of myself

816
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 6: that I don't particularly like, and my friends embrace that

817
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 6: about me, and I embrace that about my friends, And

818
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 6: I think to love someone fully, you have to accept

819
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 6: the negative parts of them.

820
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 2: Right.

821
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 6: However, when when someone who is in denial about the

822
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 6: parts of themselves that they dislike and someone shows up

823
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 6: in their life and says, oh, no, I see that

824
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 6: in you, and I love that part of you even

825
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 6: though I don't like it, that is terrifying. That's extremely

826
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 6: uncomfortable for people, so well can actually so that kind

827
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 6: of accepts I think everything.

828
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: I think everything you're saying. I think everything you're saying

829
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: is great. You know. I think that you sound like

830
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: you're comfortable being authentically yourself. You sound like you're not

831
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: afraid of being authentically yourself, which is really important as

832
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: you're going out into the dating world. But what you

833
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: just said to me has nothing to do with dating

834
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 1: apps because the I think what people get wrong about

835
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: these apps is that all these profiles, they are representations

836
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: of real people, so like it can seem artificial and whatnot.

837
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: But once you are connected with another shop, yes, once

838
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: you're connected with another person over this app, it's almost

839
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: as if you met at at the freaking coffee shop

840
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: that you meet them at in person. Is the app

841
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: is no longer a relevant part of the interaction. So

842
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it's

843
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: relevant to to dating apps.

844
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 6: You might be right about that, I think, I think

845
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 6: what so the element in like revealing your true self

846
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 6: that I was referencing that that seemed kind of like

847
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 6: it wasn't answering your question. The element that's missing it

848
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 6: is time and teasing and I really I really need

849
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 6: a lot of time, like with transitions, so and being demisexual,

850
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 6: it's when you're demisexual, it's really like you're asexual until

851
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 6: you're not until you have an emotional connection with the person.

852
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: But Kimbo, you live in the world where you can

853
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: go on the computer. You okay Cupid, and you can,

854
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, take advantage, for God's sake, take advantage. You

855
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: can go Kimbo.

856
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: You can.

857
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: Little people, you can hit little you can hit a

858
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: little checkbox that says you can hit the there's a

859
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: checkbox that says filter out by Jewish someone.

860
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 6: Who's willing to flirt with people.

861
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: I just all I'm saying, saying you sorry.

862
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 6: I come from New Jersey. It says we don't know.

863
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: How to okay, it's okay. I'm saying to you is

864
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: that if this is important to you, you should try.

865
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: You should put in you know, you put in the

866
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: effort where you can. That's all I'm saying. And I

867
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: feel like you're dismissing the dating apps if that's what

868
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: you want to you know, I feel like dismissing the

869
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: dating apps is a mistake. That's all I'm saying is

870
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: I think it's a mistake because you live in a

871
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: world where never before could you go on a website

872
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: and go show me Jewish demisexual guys at this age

873
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: that live in this location, and the computer goes, yes,

874
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: here you go take advantage of that. That's all I'm saying.

875
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 6: I mean, but.

876
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: There's Jay Swipe, there's Jay Date, there's coffee meat. What

877
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: is the bagel locks thing? There's some bagel meets locks,

878
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck it is. Anyway, Kimbo, before we go,

879
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: do you have any final thoughts about anything that we

880
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: have talked about over the course of this phone call,

881
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: or anything you want to say to the people of.

882
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 6: The computer, I'll say two things. One, I will reconsider

883
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 6: dating apps. I appreciate you putting that back on my radar.

884
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: And then to.

885
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 6: Everyone else, I'll say, surround yourself with really good people

886
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 6: and just love one another. And don't let a kind

887
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 6: word flip your mind. Like, if there's something kind or

888
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 6: loving you want to say to a person, don't be

889
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 6: embarrassed to say you should just say it.

890
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Kimba. That a great night, And

891
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: by the way, if it makes you feel any better

892
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: about the whole sex therapist trying to find love thing.

893
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: I reluctantly. I reluctantly give relationship advice to people all

894
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: the time. I've never been in a serious relationship. I

895
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: have no business giving the advice, but I do it

896
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: anyway because this is the Internet and you can do

897
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: whatever you want on here, including be a gecko. Hello.

898
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 4: Hello, how are you? I'm doing pretty good?

899
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: Huh by yourself, I am doing pretty good as well.

900
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: What are you up to at this very moment in time?

901
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 4: I'm in bed. I have to go to sleep soon.

902
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you sound really tired. Do also sound like you're

903
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: very far away from the phone.

904
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 4: I'm pretty pretty close next to my ear.

905
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

906
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 4: I have to wake up at five for work.

907
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: What do you do?

908
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 4: I'm a welder?

909
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: Okay, what kind of stuff do you wild?

910
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 4: Pretty much like marine type, stainless steel, aluminum, carb and steel.

911
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 4: You know, it's usually the fun stuff.

912
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: I will make this phone call quick so that you

913
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 1: can get to bed. How can I get you today?

914
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 4: I was talking to your amazing person, Tim, and pretty

915
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 4: much I wanted to call you because, like this has

916
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 4: been a recent epiphany for me. I recently quit porn

917
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: while trying to it's still pretty hard because I feel

918
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 4: like I'm addicted to it and it's not. And I understand,

919
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 4: like it was always like a negative thing about it,

920
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 4: but I you know, recently that I just got a girlfriend,

921
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 4: it's just been more apparent that, yeah, I should stop

922
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 4: doing this.

923
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: What sorts of things have you been noticing that are

924
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: keying you into the idea that you have an addiction.

925
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 4: It's more of like like I like watching peel be porn.

926
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: I like pretending that am I allowed to like curse.

927
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: Or have to. You can say whatever you want. You

928
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: can graphically describe the pornography that you are watching, as

929
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: long as it's not illegal. You want no, no.

930
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: No, no, it's it's all. It's all you know, regular stuff,

931
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 4: but it's basically pov I. You know, I pretend that

932
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,479
Speaker 4: the penis is my penis, and you know, whatever porn

933
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 4: star that I come across, I'm like, I imagine myself being there.

934
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: I like I like when they show the penetration because

935
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: I feel like, oh snap, I could feel this, like

936
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 4: this is something that I want to feel, and yeah

937
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 4: it's not. It's definitely not healthy. So I'm just I

938
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 4: took a step back. You know, my favorite porn stars.

939
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 4: You know, Geena Valentina, you know the big name one Lanea, Gray, Blake, Blossom,

940
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 4: all of them, all of them gorgeous, gorgeous bodies, And yeah,

941
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 4: it's not a it's not healthy. So I like pull

942
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 4: the step back, especially because I recently got a girlfriend.

943
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 4: She's gorgeous, and you know, I don't want to be

944
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: thinking about all of those women and all of their

945
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: bodies while I'm with my girlfriend.

946
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: I think that that is a great reason to stop.

947
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: It seems like you've identified it as an issue and

948
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: you're working to correct it. Yes, so is your issue

949
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: that no continue? Please?

950
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 4: You are the second person I ever told that I

951
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: had this type of problem. I've like it's been like

952
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 4: it's been a consistent thing, like since I was like fourteen,

953
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: I'm twenty eight.

954
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: Who is the first?

955
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 4: My brother?

956
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: Okay, what'd your brother say?

957
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: He understood? He didn't understand the full extent of it

958
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 4: until I recently explain it to him and he was like, wow,

959
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 4: uh yeah. I mean he's like pretty much encouraging me

960
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 4: to keep it up. He's like, don't completely go cold turkey.

961
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 4: He's like, you know, you know you could do it,

962
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 4: like at least once a week, and I'm like, I can't.

963
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 4: I physically can't because then I just go crazy.

964
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: So you're attempting to do this just cold turkey. You

965
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: are going to quit porn forever?

966
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean eventually when I have a grasp of

967
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 4: it and I could actually go like instead of like like,

968
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 4: let's just say tonight, like if I do it, then tomorrow,

969
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 4: if I do it again, then the next day that

970
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, then the habit is continuing. So I

971
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 4: then that's when I'm like, I'll pull back. But if

972
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 4: I could do it, well.

973
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: When is the last time that you did it that

974
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: you watched porn?

975
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 4: Uh? Yesterday?

976
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: Okay? And before that, what was your what was your

977
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: longest streak without watching porn?

978
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 4: A month?

979
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: A month? Okay, so you did a month. How was

980
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: that month for you?

981
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 4: I was pretty good, like working out and I felt better,

982
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 4: you know, sleep was better, you know, being wanting to

983
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 4: meddle with my girlfriend. I never had a performance problem

984
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 4: with my girlfriend. It was always a fear because of

985
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 4: the amount of porn I watch and like to have

986
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 4: a performance issue, but it was never an issue. And

987
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 4: then after I realized it was not an issue, and

988
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 4: you know obviously, like I continue, you know, just the

989
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 4: sex got better and all that stuff. I was more

990
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: sensitive down there, and yeah it was. Again, this is

991
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 4: a statful of pluses.

992
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: Okay, in the midst of your addiction, when it's at

993
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: its worst, how many times a day are we are

994
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: we hopping on the hub?

995
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 4: Like eight? Nine?

996
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay? Is it nine? We're jerking off to completion

997
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: nine times?

998
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:14,479
Speaker 4: Yes?

999
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: Good? You know I'm gonna be on. I'm gonna tell

1000
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: you something. Going from jerking off to completion nine times

1001
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: and a day? Was it nine times in a day?

1002
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: Every day?

1003
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 4: No, it's usually like once a day, but like on

1004
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 4: the weekends when I have nothing better to do, I'm like,

1005
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 4: I'm really going at it.

1006
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: Kay. To go from well, once a day is not

1007
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: that bad. But I mean everybody has sort of their

1008
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: own metric as to what is that bad that they

1009
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: decide for themselves. But regardless, to go from that to

1010
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: a full month, it's pretty great. So this is something

1011
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: you have achieved already. Now tell me what caused that

1012
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: month to end? When did you have your relapse?

1013
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 4: My girlfriend caught COVID, so I haven't seen her in

1014
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 4: like two weeks.

1015
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: Okay. And so because you were not able to be

1016
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: intimate with your girlfriends, you went back to jerking off. Yes,

1017
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: now were you jerking off? Was this no jerking off

1018
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: or just no porn?

1019
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 4: Uh cold turkey, no jerking off, no porn?

1020
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: Okay? And so in the past two weeks, how often

1021
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 1: have you been jerking off?

1022
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 4: Probably like in total, like five.

1023
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: Times a day or five times in total in the week?

1024
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 4: Five yeah, five times in totals in two weeks.

1025
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: Christian, you sound like, I mean, everybody decides for themselves

1026
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: what they're you know, what is considered an addiction. But

1027
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: you sound like you got this under control, you know,

1028
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean, is having an intimate relationship with your girl,

1029
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: a consistent intimate relationship with your girlfriend an important part

1030
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: of you being able to not masterb it?

1031
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

1032
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 4: You know I really care about this this girl. I

1033
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 4: love her, and you know I don't want to just

1034
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 4: be a reliant on porn and my fantasies. Is you

1035
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 4: know also like in the back of my mind, you know,

1036
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 4: just being able to like fantasize that I'm fucking all

1037
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 4: these different women, and you know it just as feels

1038
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 4: like mentally it's not fair for her and it doesn't

1039
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 4: feel good for me, Like, and I never understood when

1040
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 4: people like said they feel bad after watching porn until

1041
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 4: you know, I like presently got a girlfriend.

1042
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: So where do you feel like you are at with

1043
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: this addiction today? Because you seem like you're in a

1044
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: good place at least to me, But I don't know.

1045
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking.

1046
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 4: I feel I feel definitely like I have the control

1047
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 4: of it. I'm I'm really into habits, Like habits are

1048
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 4: usually my go to, Like I go to the gym

1049
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 4: six times a week, you know, a meal prep. So

1050
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 4: once I get a habit down, I'm pretty consistent with it.

1051
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 4: And so if I can make it, If I can

1052
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 4: make this a habit, then I feel like I could

1053
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 4: just get like a firm grasp on it.

1054
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: No pun intended, no pun intended. Well, Christian, I own

1055
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't really have any anything for you because it

1056
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: sounds like you're doing but I mean, you're doing fucking

1057
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: better than me on this, So I'm not gonna sit

1058
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: here and try and give you any fucking advice on

1059
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 1: how to stop watching porn when I watch porn way

1060
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: more than you do at this point, Yeah, do you

1061
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: have advice?

1062
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 4: For me.

1063
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: Fuck it? Tell me how do I stop jack off

1064
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: ten times a day?

1065
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 4: I have no idea. I mean I feel like if

1066
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 4: you what I what I perceived to be is if

1067
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 4: you think it's a problem, then it's probably a problem.

1068
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 4: And also the fact that you know you're not alone.

1069
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 4: You know, that's like a big thing that's like reoccurring

1070
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 4: to me, like with issues, like you kind of feel

1071
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 4: like you're all alone with your issues and then you're here,

1072
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 4: especially on like like I've been listening to your podcast

1073
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: forever and I've decided to call because this is the

1074
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 4: reason of the end of mine. Sure, And I said,

1075
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 4: I decided to call because this is a recent event,

1076
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 4: even though I've been listening to you forever, like a

1077
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 4: recent epiphany, but like hearing all the different people that

1078
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 4: you have on and like how I could relate to

1079
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 4: them and some of their issues. I'm like, wow, you

1080
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 4: know it's a small world.

1081
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: Well you've inspired me, Christian. Well that's the thing is

1082
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm I feel like I'm a functioning pornography consumer.

1083
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm able to It is not a I don't don't

1084
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: It hasn't like I have other vices that have definitely

1085
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: gotten in the way of my of my life, but

1086
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: porn has never been one of them. I've never been like, Oh,

1087
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: my life would be so much better if I stopped

1088
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: watching porn. I have other things that my life would

1089
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: be better if I stopped doing, but porn. Porn's never

1090
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: been seemed to be one of them. But we're here

1091
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: to talk about me. I'm glad to hear from you,

1092
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: Christian that you are combating this addiction, especially I mean,

1093
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: a month without it. I think you'll be able to

1094
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: continue your cold Turkey streak even once once your girlfriend

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: uh returns from her sickness, and I think you will

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01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: have a happy and fulfilling life. Christian. Is there anything

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01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people the computer

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Speaker 1: before we go?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 4: No, the only thing like hearing about the flags. I

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Speaker 4: kinda started getting into it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what flags are we looking at?

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01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 4: Uh?

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01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 5: For?

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01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 4: I first, UH started looking at my home state, Florida,

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01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 4: and then my whole country, Mexico, and Uh, I like,

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01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 4: I like Spain's flag. It's pretty cool as well.

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna look at Florida. Hold on, I'm

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01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: gonna look at Florida real quick. What's on the Florida flag.

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Speaker 4: Florida is boring. It's just like a like a white

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 4: flag that's.

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Speaker 1: Like an X X Okay, and then what's on this thing? Oh,

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: it's like a X. And then a lady holding sushi

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Speaker 1: and some boats. Okay, I mean that's fine. That's like

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Speaker 1: a Mexico real quick, I I know what the Mexico. Wait,

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01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: the Mexico flag is just there's not like a symbol

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01:07:54,800 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: on it, is there? Yeah, it's as uh oh oh wait,

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01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: oh wait. The Mexican flag is bad ass. Look at

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01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: this guy. This is an eagles fucking poeing the snake's

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Speaker 1: he's eating a snake and standing on a cactus like

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Speaker 1: the little cactus shreds are going into the eagles. This

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01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: is badass. I've never really looked at the Mexican flag

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Speaker 1: like this.

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Speaker 6: Damn.

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for shouting. I'm definitely gonna jack off to

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01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: this later.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you, of course, have a good question

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Speaker 4: to hear you too. Bye.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man, sweet sweet man doing better than me goes

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Speaker 1: on the line taking your phone calls.

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Speaker 3: Every night.

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Speaker 1: A beacon goes to his he's teaching you cloud in

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Speaker 1: the MIDI your life. He's not really an expert

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Speaker 4: H