Speaker 1: What do you think the lighting in here?
Speaker 2: I have notes.
Speaker 1: You want to tinker, don't you? Yeah, every party you
Speaker 1: wants to tinker. Pashash Welcome to Tosh Show. I am
Speaker 1: your host, Daniel Tosh, and with me is Eddie Gosling. Eddie, Hello,
Speaker 1: Daniel Tosh, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Well, it's good to have you. I don't want to
Speaker 1: start uh this podcast with a fart joke, but here
Speaker 1: goes all right. My son the other day was running
Speaker 1: and I was chasing him, and while I was chasing him,
Speaker 1: he farted. He gets excited sometimes and it comes out.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. By the way, my son can't fart
Speaker 1: without my wife's screaming, go to the bathroom. You need
Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom. I'm like, and I'm always like,
Speaker 1: one doesn't mean the other. I agree with you. She's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: if you'r farting, you have to go poop. I'm like, okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: sorry about that. So he farts and then he said
Speaker 1: we're laughing about it because because he's a kid. He's
Speaker 1: a five year old. Five year olds are allowed to
Speaker 1: laugh at farts. I know, fifty year olds are allowed
Speaker 1: to laugh at farts anyway. He says to me, Hey, Dad,
Speaker 1: do you think that while I was running when I
Speaker 1: farted that the fart made me run faster? And then
Speaker 1: before I even got to say anything, my wife just
Speaker 1: chimes in, yes, that's your noss button. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: they don't even need me anymore for comedy. But both
Speaker 1: of them got it all figured out. I thought it
Speaker 1: was the funniest exchange ever. I just sat there and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you guys did it. That's hysterical.
Speaker 1: He's running farting, says does that make me go faster?
Speaker 1: And she said, gets your noss button? You don't. You
Speaker 1: don't want to press it too soon in a race. Perfect,
Speaker 1: pretty good stuff. All right, What are we doing today, Eddie?
Speaker 1: Dear to Show? This is quickly becoming one of my
Speaker 1: favorite segments. Dear TOAs Show is where I take a
Speaker 1: question or a thought from one of our subscribers, or
Speaker 1: a family member or someone that I just randomly heard
Speaker 1: on the street, and I solve their problems. All right,
Speaker 1: here we go.
Speaker 3: People that listen to music watch videos? Are you speakerphone
Speaker 3: without using headphones around other people? How do you solve
Speaker 3: that problem?
Speaker 1: Thank you, Alan, Alan. That is a real problem, and
Speaker 1: I have a real solution that's also fun for almost
Speaker 1: everyone within earshot. Okay, it's very simple. I just stand up,
Speaker 1: walk as close as you can to them, and pretend
Speaker 1: you have Tourette's shit. Fuck pussy cut shit, fuck cut pussy,
Speaker 1: and throw on a twitch hit pussy chit, pussy pussy,
Speaker 1: pussy chit. Okay, they're going to wrap up a call
Speaker 1: the call no one. No one's explaining that on a
Speaker 1: business conversation. That's immediately that they're gonna quickly oh oh shoot.
Speaker 3: Hey, I gotta go. I'll call you back.
Speaker 1: And then if they approach you like, what's wrong, man,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I have tretts. This is a disease.
Speaker 1: Imagine shit shit Mexicans treats is fine if it's just
Speaker 1: swear words, it's it's when the racist term start flying,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, okay, this guy's gonna get himself beat
Speaker 1: up or elected president. Hey, all right, speaking of big
Speaker 1: orange orangutangs. Uh did you see the New Planet of
Speaker 1: the Eighth movie?
Speaker 3: I did not see it.
Speaker 1: By the way, new is relative. I think it's a
Speaker 1: few years old. Whatever the latest one. Now I loved
Speaker 1: the semi new installment of the trilogy that they did.
Speaker 1: I thought that was Those were great with Caesar, but
Speaker 1: I recently watched the new one, which is set many
Speaker 1: general into the future, and and the monkeys have won
Speaker 1: and the humans don't talk anymore, okay, whatever that here,
Speaker 1: I just want to get to that.
Speaker 3: Hey, I could listen to you talk about movies like this.
Speaker 3: The monkeys have won.
Speaker 1: The monkeys won there there the the top of the
Speaker 1: pecking order. Although that and there was a disease or
Speaker 1: something that went around and people can't talk, all right, whatever,
Speaker 1: and monkeys talk, but there's no they have figured out
Speaker 1: a lot of shit. Who cares about the movie? This
Speaker 1: is This was my problem with the movie, and possibly
Speaker 1: uh a problem with Hollywood in general. That you might
Speaker 1: not think that I have this take on. But when
Speaker 1: we let like anyone be a model, not just the
Speaker 1: pretty people, you get where I'm going this movie. I
Speaker 1: didn't think the star monkey was attractive. He didn't seem cool.
Speaker 1: He looked, you know, like little little little doufiss, like
Speaker 1: a character, like a like an idiot. I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't seem like he didn't have the star power
Speaker 1: that Caesar had Caesar like was such a good looking monkey, Like,
Speaker 1: holy cow, I would I would follow this monkey. I
Speaker 1: would have been the first human to fall in line
Speaker 1: and be like, no, no, this is my king, this
Speaker 1: is my prophet. But anyway, this new one, I just
Speaker 1: was like kept looking at this monkey, and I'm like, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: come on, can you make the star of the movie
Speaker 1: a little sexier. It was just hard to believe that
Speaker 1: this would be like the one that everyone would would
Speaker 1: turn to. He just didn't seem like a leader, and
Speaker 1: I guess that was kind of part of it, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just feel like he could have got beat up
Speaker 1: by like a ton of other monkeys. He didn't have.
Speaker 1: He didn't have that it factor as far as monkeys go.
Speaker 1: The whole time, I'm just watching this movie going I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not attracted this monkey in anyway. This isn't
Speaker 1: a Brad Pitt. This is like, what's his name, who's
Speaker 1: the guy from the Brutalist Adrian Brody. This is an
Speaker 1: Adrian Brody. He's won an Oscar. I know, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that this monkey is not talented. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that he's not He's not like popcorn Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: the Messiah. This looks like something you come home from
Speaker 1: the fair with. You know, he looks he looked more
Speaker 1: like the rally monkey at a Dodgers game where you
Speaker 1: get the little velcrow hands and you hook it around
Speaker 1: your head. You know, you know, kind of remind me
Speaker 1: of what's that TV show with the Sniper Day of
Speaker 1: the Jackal. That that guy he's like, he's such a
Speaker 1: He's like a little doufist looking guy. And then his
Speaker 1: wife in there is just so beautiful and I'm like, oh, man, snipers,
Speaker 1: get all the hot chicks. I could do this conversation
Speaker 1: all day though, but I'll tell you one more problem
Speaker 1: about this monkey movie. Very dark and just not tonally.
Speaker 1: Just actually I get a night I can't see anything
Speaker 1: that's going on. You know, Gonna love this talk is
Speaker 1: today's guest my cameraman. Oh nobody, nobody can bore me
Speaker 1: more about lighting and talking about film than today's guest.
Speaker 1: Enjoy Pasha, my guest today lit some of the most
Speaker 1: beautiful sets you ever saw in Tosh point zero. For
Speaker 1: over a decade, this man tried to turn my comedy
Speaker 1: Gold into cinematic art, but unfortunately for him, it was
Speaker 1: a low budget show when everyone else just wanted to
Speaker 1: finish and go home. Please welcome my former director of
Speaker 1: photography and the only member of the crew I wasn't
Speaker 1: scared to talk to, Andrew.
Speaker 2: Good to see you, Daniel.
Speaker 1: Andrew, thank you for being here. By the way, do
Speaker 1: I have a good side all sides?
Speaker 2: Eh?
Speaker 1: That is true, Andrew. Do you believe in ghost Absolutely?
Speaker 2: I have a friend who worked on UFO Hunters and
Speaker 2: the ghost equivalent of it, and he said absolutely, Like
Speaker 2: ghosts are real, UFOs not so much.
Speaker 1: Oh so, he doesn't believe in any alien life form,
Speaker 1: but he does believe in ghost.
Speaker 2: This was as of like ten years ago.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well the evidence now, yeah, yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: would you could? You could maybe get me to go
Speaker 1: the other direction, but not that way. All right. Did
Speaker 1: you like growing up in Minnesota?
Speaker 2: Well, Minnesota's a beautiful place.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful.
Speaker 2: But as somebody who was closeted like it was tough.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was always such a blue wall
Speaker 1: up there. No, I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the blue wall kind of is around
Speaker 2: parts of like downtown and some of the suburbs.
Speaker 1: But I'm doing two shows in your hometown of Minneapolis. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Twin Cities. How come we call the Twin Cities?
Speaker 1: But yet Saint Paul gets no love ever.
Speaker 2: Well, I think in Saint Paul things tend to close earlier.
Speaker 2: It's more like government cultural, whereas Minneapolis is where, like
Speaker 2: you know, the stadiums are, It's where the nightclubs are,
Speaker 2: It's where probably the best restaurants are.
Speaker 1: Where's the big spoon with a cherry on it? I
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 2: That's the Walker Arts Center.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I love seeing that big spoon. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: ever go walk that, Eddie, I haven't seen the spoon.
Speaker 1: You've never seen them. See you've gone to Minneapolis for
Speaker 1: thirty years, I know, and you've never walked by the
Speaker 1: Big Spoon. No, that is bonkers to me. I got
Speaker 1: so many photos of me on dates with comedy club
Speaker 1: waitresses in front of the big Spoon. Big spoon. Ah.
Speaker 1: By the way, you also lived in Florida, that's right,
Speaker 1: for two years as a child.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I grew up in a suburb of Minneapolis
Speaker 2: called Hedna. I lived there until I was about eleven,
Speaker 2: and then my dad got transferred for work to Florida.
Speaker 2: We lived in a suburb of Orlando. Called Lake Mary
Speaker 2: for a year and a half two years.
Speaker 1: Did you love Orlando area or no?
Speaker 2: It was a culture shock for me, kind of coming
Speaker 2: from suburban like conservative, you know, Minneapolis suburbs to you know,
Speaker 2: central Florida.
Speaker 1: When I moved to Florida as a twelve year old,
Speaker 1: I just I hated it. I grew to love it,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know that you were supposed to be
Speaker 1: embarrassed to live there. But immediately when I moved there, though,
Speaker 1: I hated it, and everyone would ask me. I know,
Speaker 1: they asked you something similar. They asked you, are you
Speaker 1: a redneck or a surfer? Those were the two things
Speaker 1: a white kid could be.
Speaker 2: They always wanted to know if I was a surfer
Speaker 2: or a skater and answer that was the first question.
Speaker 2: I remember the first time I heard it. I didn't
Speaker 2: know how to respond. And so because you liked to
Speaker 2: roller skate, I'm sure, why would you say that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was a terrible skater. So actually I was just
Speaker 2: uncoordinated altogether. So I fell into the yearbook like team,
Speaker 2: you know, I was in the group that wrote the yearbook,
Speaker 2: that took all the photos.
Speaker 1: And then you put so many photos yourself.
Speaker 2: In there, not many of me. I was behind the camera.
Speaker 1: What was your dad doing at the time? What job
Speaker 1: was he getting? Transfer around it?
Speaker 2: My dad had his own business. He sold construction materials,
Speaker 2: so like PBC piping, That's what thing. And what happened
Speaker 2: was there was a recession in the late eighties that
Speaker 2: caused his business to shift around a little bit, and
Speaker 2: so he chased some clients in Florida and then eventually
Speaker 2: that fizzled away and work went to overseas markets and whatever,
Speaker 2: and my dad's business kind of like imploded. So things
Speaker 2: got really tough, and my mom came in and ended
Speaker 2: up taking care of us.
Speaker 1: By the way, your father recently passed away.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very sorry to hear that. He came out
Speaker 1: to you when you were eighteen years old. Yeah.
Speaker 2: By this point I knew that I was gay and
Speaker 2: I wanted to tell my parents about it, but my
Speaker 2: dad beat me to it, like he sat me down.
Speaker 2: I didn't see this coming at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, did this shatter your world?
Speaker 2: It kind of pushed me back in the closet in
Speaker 2: the sense that, like I was just I just didn't
Speaker 2: know how to respond to it. And it was like
Speaker 2: there was too many emotions that were coming up. You know,
Speaker 2: when you're closeted, you compartmentalize it. You learned to hide it,
Speaker 2: and so I kind of went back into the closet.
Speaker 2: And then it was two years after that that I
Speaker 2: came out to them.
Speaker 1: I remember some details that you may have purposely left out.
Speaker 1: Your dad once came to you before he came out
Speaker 1: and asked you if you were gay.
Speaker 2: He told me that he asked me that when he
Speaker 2: came out.
Speaker 1: To me, because he knew his son and had probably
Speaker 1: a pretty good read. I think he probably he was
Speaker 1: giving you the easy coming out, and you said, nope,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to fall for this.
Speaker 2: Because I knew I wasn't fully ready to do it yet.
Speaker 2: And you couldn't be in the middle. You can't sort
Speaker 2: of half come out, because that would just create too
Speaker 2: much skepticism.
Speaker 1: That's bisexuals that half come out.
Speaker 2: No. Well, my dad at the time actually said he
Speaker 2: was by okay. He said, he says, I'm by. I
Speaker 2: have a preference towards men. And I was confused by
Speaker 2: that because that doesn't really define being by. But I
Speaker 2: just I didn't ask him any more questions about it
Speaker 2: because I was still processing.
Speaker 1: It looking back on that moment, did you react the
Speaker 1: way that you wanted to react?
Speaker 2: I mean, in hindsight, I would have I would have
Speaker 2: come out to him. Then, oh, because why wait?
Speaker 1: Well no, I know I have always felt when any
Speaker 1: you know, the handful of times I've been fortunate enough
Speaker 1: for a friend to come out to me, I've always
Speaker 1: been the only thing that's ever bothered me is like, oh,
Speaker 1: I hate that you had to like not you know,
Speaker 1: keep something or that's always the thing that you do.
Speaker 1: And then when is your parents? That's such a weird thing.
Speaker 1: Did you like side? I mean, how'd your mom handle this?
Speaker 2: First of all, well, she had already known for some time,
Speaker 2: several years. I think I think it was difficult for her,
Speaker 2: but she had she had started to move on. They
Speaker 2: had already been separated for several years at this point,
Speaker 2: even though they still had, you know, relationship in the
Speaker 2: sense that they were taking care of us together.
Speaker 1: And did the relationship get stronger over the years.
Speaker 2: After this between them?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean as far as a friendship, did it
Speaker 1: ever turn back into a.
Speaker 2: Friendship or no, it was a friendship.
Speaker 1: By the way, did your father have many female relationships
Speaker 1: in his life or no.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I think they met when she was
Speaker 2: right out of nursing school. You know, they were in
Speaker 2: their early mid twenties actually, yeah, mid twenties, and and
Speaker 2: got hitched right away.
Speaker 1: You have twin brothers.
Speaker 2: Twin older brothers and a younger sister.
Speaker 1: And all of them are gay. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: How did they handle this?
Speaker 2: They were accepting of it, my sister even when I
Speaker 2: came out to her.
Speaker 1: Well, I just I mean, accepting of you seems easy.
Speaker 1: It was the father one that seems like it'd be
Speaker 1: the tougher pill to swallow for kids.
Speaker 2: Ye, I mean it would have been more difficult for
Speaker 2: them not understanding it, you know, not knowing what it's
Speaker 2: like to live with the secret and how you could have,
Speaker 2: you know, a life that's that's in a sense, not
Speaker 2: being totally honest to your your true self.
Speaker 1: I've thought multiple times, how would I react if my
Speaker 1: father came out to me just because of your situation?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I am, this really makes sense.
Speaker 1: I could piece it all together. Where'd you? Where did
Speaker 1: you come out to them? At? Where were you guys?
Speaker 2: I told my parents I wanted to take them to dinner.
Speaker 1: Both of them together. Yeah, public place?
Speaker 2: No, No, actually my dad's house.
Speaker 1: Okay did it?
Speaker 2: And I just point blank told them because I didn't want.
Speaker 1: Any beginning to the meal. At the end of the meal,
Speaker 1: it was after the meal, what would you guys eat?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. You don't remember what you ate
Speaker 1: that night.
Speaker 2: This was like thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: I don't care. What was your dad's reaction when you
Speaker 1: actually finally came out to him.
Speaker 2: The first thing he said was I need a drink,
Speaker 2: but kind of tongue in cheek.
Speaker 1: More like a cocktail. He's like, let's party, kid, No like.
Speaker 2: I think he just appreciated the irony or coincidence of
Speaker 2: this situation and probably enjoyed that he would have somebody,
Speaker 2: you know, close that he could relate to.
Speaker 1: Listen. I have always said that I think a gay
Speaker 1: man would make the best father and husband to a woman.
Speaker 2: When I was I don't know, in my late twenties,
Speaker 2: he came out to visit and he helped me move
Speaker 2: into a new apartment in West Hollywood as my first
Speaker 2: Hollywood apartment. And it was like a Sunday night and
Speaker 2: we had finished moving and I had some friends over.
Speaker 2: We ate dinner, and I thought that was going to
Speaker 2: be the end of it. And as we were I
Speaker 2: was saying good night to everybody, he turned to me
Speaker 2: and he said, well, wait, we haven't gone out yet,
Speaker 2: And so everybody had surprise looks on their face, like
Speaker 2: they knew about my dad. But he wanted to go
Speaker 2: out for a night on the town. So we did
Speaker 2: a bar crawl along Santa Monica Boulevard.
Speaker 1: Rage, Did you go to Rage?
Speaker 2: We didn't go to Rage. We went to Trunks. We
Speaker 2: went to Mickey's. I think we went by a place
Speaker 2: called the Normandy Room, which was a lesbian bar back then.
Speaker 2: He got kicked out of there for trying to smoke inside.
Speaker 1: Damn. He's yeah, the coolest dad in the world. You
Speaker 1: didn't even know it. Talk about how you know, as
Speaker 1: a young child you got into wanting to be a
Speaker 1: cinematographer filming all of it.
Speaker 2: I would say from a very early age, before we
Speaker 2: had any cameras, I'd walk around the house and I
Speaker 2: would like make a little frame like I was I
Speaker 2: was composing shots. Mm hmm. For a while I thought
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a meteorologist.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can attribute some of it to
Speaker 2: admiring the light.
Speaker 1: But I.
Speaker 2: I love thunderstorms, I love snowstorms. I love weather events
Speaker 2: like I liked the drama of you'd be watching a
Speaker 2: TV show and there'd be that little baby, the weather
Speaker 2: call would come at the bottom of the street and
Speaker 2: an issue, you know, tornado warning. I would also say
Speaker 2: that I noticed light, Like growing up in Midwest was beautiful.
Speaker 2: You get four seasons, you know, the light is very
Speaker 2: dramatic at different different times a day.
Speaker 1: All right, So as a child you were into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I made super eight films. I made like
Speaker 2: videos with my brothers, Like we got a hold of
Speaker 2: a camcorder, like a friend's family friend lent us one
Speaker 2: and so give a high eight. It was a VHS.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's real cool.
Speaker 2: We'd set it up and we you know, discovered quickly
Speaker 2: that if you put it on a tripod and you
Speaker 2: start and stop it, you could make like objects move
Speaker 2: around if you didn't move the camera.
Speaker 1: How old were you when you took your first dick pic?
Speaker 1: And do you set it up before you take it? Right?
Speaker 3: Light the area?
Speaker 1: Sure filters? You don't have to answer that you went
Speaker 1: to USC film school. How competitive an environment was that.
Speaker 2: I mean I at the time, I think they said
Speaker 2: they accept like twenty or thirty applicants out of one
Speaker 2: or two thousand, So you know, I was surrounded by
Speaker 2: people who wanted to be writers and directors. There weren't
Speaker 2: as many people that were, you know, into editing, cinematography,
Speaker 2: production design.
Speaker 1: Were you super smart? No?
Speaker 2: I wasn't really book smart, but I was. I had
Speaker 2: drive and I was creative, and you know, it took
Speaker 2: me five applications to get into the film school, and
Speaker 2: ultimately I think they were they were looking for somebody
Speaker 2: who could, you know, express themselves creatively. And I remember
Speaker 2: I ended up writing a letter in my final application.
Speaker 2: This was that the last time I was trying to
Speaker 2: apply to the school before I pursued a different tack.
Speaker 2: I came out. You know, I described my coming out
Speaker 2: story to my best friend at the time.
Speaker 1: You played the gay card hard, didn't you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I had been told I had met all
Speaker 2: these these graduate students who were who were telling me
Speaker 2: that they wanted to see some kind of personal statement,
Speaker 2: and I didn't have the you know, I came from you.
Speaker 1: You had a pastern statement. You just didn't want to
Speaker 1: share it at the moment by the US the crazy
Speaker 1: expensive Yeah, how did you did you?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: You force the parents just to like deal with it?
Speaker 2: We weren't able to do that, so okay, I got grants,
Speaker 2: a lot of financial aid and some help from other
Speaker 2: family members.
Speaker 1: Were you in debt after you graduated? I was, ah,
Speaker 1: that's good, but you stayed out in LA. Did you
Speaker 1: ever give up on the dream? And do you care
Speaker 1: about USC? Sure? Do you go to the football games ever?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Did you ever go to a.
Speaker 2: I have gone to the football games. I went, but
Speaker 2: the seats at the coliseum were really uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: They're not good. I always liked going. When I went
Speaker 1: to the coliseum, I was excited because they had like
Speaker 1: big old sausages that were like chicken based or something. Well,
Speaker 1: because I can't I don't need beef, so I was
Speaker 1: always like, oh there was something fun to eat there.
Speaker 2: I don't eat beef. I don't need pork.
Speaker 1: I used to not eat pork, and then I have children.
Speaker 2: But you have a pig, I know, and I kick
Speaker 2: around it.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't. I don't like go ha ha, look
Speaker 1: what I'm eating. Yeah, I eat here's the thing I
Speaker 1: don't order it. But my children, we let them eat
Speaker 1: what they want to eat right now. And if they're
Speaker 1: eating something that has bacon in and then they don't
Speaker 1: finish it. I have this weird thing where I don't
Speaker 1: let food go to waste, so I just end up
Speaker 1: eating it. Okay, I'm not proud of myself. By the way,
Speaker 1: the American Society of Cinematographers gave the Greg Tolan Heritage
Speaker 1: Award to the best up and coming cinematographer, and you
Speaker 1: won that in nineteen ninety nine. Who the fuck is
Speaker 1: Greg Toland?
Speaker 2: Greg Toland is a cinematographer who most famously is known
Speaker 2: for having shot Orson Wells's Citizen Kane, and he was
Speaker 2: a pioneer. He actually shared a title card with or
Speaker 2: and Wells in the film, which was considered a big
Speaker 2: deal at the time. But he designed lenses. He built
Speaker 2: lenses like he was one of those like craftsmen that
Speaker 2: just knew, like when there was a need for something,
Speaker 2: he would design it. He would figure out how to
Speaker 2: build it.
Speaker 1: All right, So you got this award in nineteen ninety nine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty great. That was right out of the gate.
Speaker 2: It was basically a big deal.
Speaker 1: And then you ended up on Tosh Point. Oh that
Speaker 1: seems not like the normal trajectory of somebody. Do you
Speaker 1: hate green screen?
Speaker 2: No, but I don't think I can see the color
Speaker 2: green anymore because I was around it so much during
Speaker 2: the time I worked on the show that Do.
Speaker 1: People realize how much stuff you shot because they always
Speaker 1: just think of the show like, oh, doesn't need to
Speaker 1: stand in front of a green screen the whole time.
Speaker 1: I don't think they realized how many other things were
Speaker 1: shot for that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was the Selena Gomez music video
Speaker 2: parody we did.
Speaker 1: Kartof still talks to me about that dumb thing. He's like,
Speaker 1: that was great. He couldn't memorize a word. Talk about
Speaker 1: what a good time working on Tosh Point zero was
Speaker 1: and how easy I am to work with.
Speaker 2: The hours were great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something I'll take it.
Speaker 2: We had summer hours. We'd come in at I think
Speaker 2: four am to light a set, to be rolling by
Speaker 2: six or seven o'clock, and then wrapped at eight am.
Speaker 2: Heading home mid morning rush hour.
Speaker 1: Is bonker.
Speaker 2: You'll get breakfast at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, listen, what are you talking about. We always
Speaker 1: had those nice little breakfast breeders.
Speaker 2: That's true, all right.
Speaker 1: So you didn't have a good time, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: easy to work with. That's fair, No, you were.
Speaker 2: We didn't always know that, Daniel, we were going to
Speaker 2: get but it was always exciting.
Speaker 1: What does that even mean?
Speaker 2: Whatever the script was, we knew that it could change
Speaker 2: in a moment's notice, because you could, you could work
Speaker 2: with something, you could you would respond in the moment,
Speaker 2: and we had to light the show in such a
Speaker 2: way that that anything could change at any moment, And
Speaker 2: so we were always thinking on our feet, like there
Speaker 2: was never a point where we felt, you know, comfortable.
Speaker 4: Over thirteen years, there was never a point in like
Speaker 4: an a creative sense, and so everybody was kind of
Speaker 4: ready to dance and think on their feet if needed.
Speaker 1: But they also got to go home at nine o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning. So yeah, well that was only toward
Speaker 1: the end that I forced everybody to start working at
Speaker 1: crazy early hours. That's such a silly idea that we had. Well, here,
Speaker 1: you know what I liked about working with you. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I liked now. All the things you think, oh, gay, no,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a plus, but not what you're good
Speaker 1: at your job. No, couldn't, couldn't care less. I think
Speaker 1: it comes down to it's like you're also quiet. That's
Speaker 1: a huge plus, but like you just like did your shit.
Speaker 1: But the real thing is probably just being from Minnesota.
Speaker 1: There's just something about people from Minnesota that I've always liked.
Speaker 2: Minnesota and Ice they call it, oh Man.
Speaker 1: What a name. Yeah, they're just nice folks there. When
Speaker 1: movies were predominantly shot on film, everyone talked about how
Speaker 1: fantastic digital would be. Now which is better?
Speaker 2: It's subjective, but it also depends on what you're doing,
Speaker 2: you know. I think there are some shows that will
Speaker 2: always work better some movies having been shot in film.
Speaker 2: But ultimately it comes down to budget and what you
Speaker 2: want it to look like. You know, you can look
Speaker 2: at digital, it's just like a different film stock choice.
Speaker 2: So like you can choose to shoot on film, it's
Speaker 2: a different process. It has a more natural look to it.
Speaker 2: I think the way the tones interact with each other,
Speaker 2: the grain, there's a dimensionality to it.
Speaker 1: I hate what you're saying. I hate what you're saying well,
Speaker 1: because anytime you would set stuff up, it's I knew
Speaker 1: always I understood that you knew what you were doing,
Speaker 1: but I always would just need to walk away because
Speaker 1: I just know that like setting up shots, it just
Speaker 1: takes so long. And if you're not into that then
Speaker 1: especially if you're like doing comedy where it's like, who
Speaker 1: can I'm just telling a joke. Oh, it's painful? How long?
Speaker 2: I think you have to be passionate about it in
Speaker 2: order to survive because the hours can be long, the
Speaker 2: pay can be crap, the food can be worse, and
Speaker 2: it can be it can be difficult in a slog.
Speaker 2: But if you love it like you don't think about that,
Speaker 2: that kind of disappears.
Speaker 1: We gotta get you on. You need to be working
Speaker 1: on Showgun. That's that seems like that was the project
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: You got a hook up?
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, But if we do find a hookup,
Speaker 1: then I need to find a way for you to
Speaker 1: let me meet that star. Oh man, she is pretty.
Speaker 1: You were on the set of the one where Alec
Speaker 1: Baldwin shot someone.
Speaker 2: I was un rust No, okay, that is.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, Eddie. That's Eddie's fault. Eddie. You got me?
Speaker 1: You ever shot a gun?
Speaker 2: I have? I went to the shooting range with Scott Sibilski.
Speaker 1: He was Scott's abili was a producer on On Tosh
Speaker 1: point zero and he's the one that introduced us to you.
Speaker 1: Which is weird because Scott is if you were to
Speaker 1: draw a photo of a heterosexual man, it would be
Speaker 1: Scott Zabielski, like just his hair's a cop for fun.
Speaker 1: That's the weirdest thing in the world. How did you
Speaker 1: guys know each other?
Speaker 2: We met at USC Okay, yeah, Usc.
Speaker 1: You guys just all take care of each other. You're
Speaker 1: kind of like Harvard, a bunch of assholes, aren't you.
Speaker 1: Probably for somebody that has worked in film and television.
Speaker 1: As long as you have, you never got fat and disgusting.
Speaker 1: You've always you always were in perfect shape. I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. Sometimes I felt like you you became
Speaker 1: a cameraman just to show off your arms and hold
Speaker 1: a camera carry stuff around. Yeah, you always he always
Speaker 1: just like just the tightest shirts too, am I is
Speaker 1: that changed? Ers? Are you still wearing skin tight shirt?
Speaker 1: I can see that shirt's pretty tight.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm a homosexual, so.
Speaker 1: Now that I know tons of homeosexuals that are physically
Speaker 1: not in good shape.
Speaker 2: I just never liked the way, you know, bag your
Speaker 2: shirts looked on me. But I didn't know how to
Speaker 2: dress like up until I don't know, in my early
Speaker 2: thirties or late twenties. I think I wore mostly flannels
Speaker 2: and baggy clothes.
Speaker 1: You did. I've never seen you in a baggy outfit
Speaker 1: in my life. I'd love to give you a photo
Speaker 1: of you in a baggy shirt. That's what i's out.
Speaker 1: You work out every day just about what's what's what's
Speaker 1: the process? What do you do well?
Speaker 2: It's changed because I used to be more into like
Speaker 2: weightlifting for strength training, but now it's really just I
Speaker 2: like high intensity, So I do like a boot camp
Speaker 2: style workout. Work out at home.
Speaker 1: You're carrying a sand bag around like an idiot.
Speaker 2: No, no, just like some dumbbells, a matte kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like the I get a mental high from it.
Speaker 2: Not everybody gets that, No, I know, I never had one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't work out clear my head.
Speaker 1: And you do it early in the morning or late
Speaker 1: at night.
Speaker 2: You try to do it early in the morning, like
Speaker 2: what time today was six am?
Speaker 1: And that's earlier than normal.
Speaker 2: It's about that time Okay.
Speaker 1: So six am every day you're sweating.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how many total days in your life would
Speaker 2: you say you've gone into a gym?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Not for shoot, that's a stare. Two five maybe and
Speaker 1: never as an adult. I can remember in college going
Speaker 1: into a gym. I guess I just think it's dumb.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna look good. I'm never gonna get like
Speaker 1: a body that's.
Speaker 2: Like rich Piana.
Speaker 1: Just you know, I'm never gonna have arms, and I
Speaker 1: should do it. You care about what you eat too, though? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But I cheat? Okay, you know I'm not super rigid desserts.
Speaker 1: Do you like desserts?
Speaker 2: Have a sweet tooth?
Speaker 1: I just ate old cheesecake that was in the refrigerator.
Speaker 1: I don't even know where it came from. It was
Speaker 1: like mushed into a tupperware bowl, and I just was
Speaker 1: just Carly was thrown away, Like wait, wit give me that.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't eat a lot of the meals that the
Speaker 1: crew would eat. But when you found out that Panda
Speaker 1: Express was being a you would get emotional, visibly upset.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of your staffers over there, like you know,
Speaker 2: relished in the opportunity to serve Panda Express.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I've changed Pete as much as I can.
Speaker 1: We call him life Hack Pete. Guys got a shortcut
Speaker 1: for everything. But but yeah, his taste in foods is
Speaker 1: always a little bit questionable.
Speaker 2: There was somebody who worked on the show whose wife
Speaker 2: worked I don't know, something to do with food safety,
Speaker 2: and she said that the chicken that they used in
Speaker 2: Panda Express is like grade K chicken, or it was
Speaker 2: a low grade chicken.
Speaker 1: But if it goes to Z that's fine. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you some Panda Express. If you're a sponsor to
Speaker 1: the show, and I know you should be, grade K
Speaker 1: is fine with me. By the way, do you have
Speaker 1: to be strong to be in your business? No? I
Speaker 1: mean camera? I mean you carry a camera. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: lugging stuff around all day long?
Speaker 2: Sure? Sure, I mean you know you have assistance, you
Speaker 2: have a team that can help you. And and if
Speaker 2: you're if you're on a union job as a cinematographer,
Speaker 2: you know technically you won't have to touch any equipment
Speaker 2: if you have if you hire camera operators.
Speaker 1: Are you always doing union jobs or do you ever
Speaker 1: get to do none union work anymore?
Speaker 2: A mix? I would say, you ever sit on that
Speaker 2: train track on the on the Dolly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that fun?
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I love the train. You ever say choo choo? Or
Speaker 1: when you're when you're getting pushed around.
Speaker 2: I remember being told by a producer on this show
Speaker 2: that we were never allowed to have a Dolly track.
Speaker 2: Why just because it would take too much time.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like it. Then, Eh, the thing was this
Speaker 1: show people? What people don't understand, they may understand, it's
Speaker 1: pretty simple. The reason that the show worked is is
Speaker 1: the way I understood it. You know, you can do
Speaker 1: shows a million different ways, and they can work and
Speaker 1: be successful or they can fail for a million different reasons.
Speaker 1: But the way I went about it was, Okay, if
Speaker 1: I have a show that cost way less than every
Speaker 1: other show they're doing, it won't have to do as
Speaker 1: well for them to say it makes financial sense to
Speaker 1: keep the show. That was just my thinking. And then
Speaker 1: it got to a point where, oh, the show was
Speaker 1: doing well but it costs less. Well, now I want
Speaker 1: to just make all that money, So give me all
Speaker 1: the extra money you would be spending on an expensive show.
Speaker 1: That was my thinking, and so let's keep the show cheap.
Speaker 1: I probably should admit that, right, that's bad, but whatever.
Speaker 1: That was my.
Speaker 2: Thinking, simple economics.
Speaker 1: What projects of yours are you the most proud of?
Speaker 1: Besides Tosh point.
Speaker 2: Zero, there's a film I shot called Big Time Adolescence,
Speaker 2: Uh huh that went to Sundance and did well, and
Speaker 2: it's a dark comedy. I love the writing and it
Speaker 2: very well directed. It was first time director writer named
Speaker 2: Jason Orley, and I liked my work in it and
Speaker 2: the experience of making it.
Speaker 1: In terms of cinematography, name your top five favorite films
Speaker 1: and I will bet you all the money in the
Speaker 1: world that I haven't heard of any of them.
Speaker 2: Top five films. Favorite films for cinematography.
Speaker 1: Yeah for you? Yeah, the Godfather didn't see it?
Speaker 2: No Country for Old Men?
Speaker 1: Oh, I saw it, loved it.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful masterpiece Western.
Speaker 1: You like westerns? Yeah? Why, I didn't mean it like anything.
Speaker 1: Guys are like, why would he.
Speaker 2: Not like that're just amazing classic stories and in there
Speaker 2: they're not quite fantasy, but they're not quite reality.
Speaker 1: Whenever I see those that world am I thank the
Speaker 1: Lord that I wasn't born during that time. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have survived in that world at all. It's not the
Speaker 1: Western world. Is not is not cut out for a
Speaker 1: man with ibs.
Speaker 2: No Citizen Kane all right, And it's not just because
Speaker 2: of the Greg Poland thing, but it's it's inventive, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: It's black and white.
Speaker 1: Like that Silence.
Speaker 2: Number four American Beauty shot by Conrad Hall.
Speaker 1: Do you always know who shot a film?
Speaker 2: A lot of times I do. I mean, I'll research
Speaker 2: it in advance.
Speaker 1: Or that must be funny one of the movies.
Speaker 2: I'll go and read about the cinematography after a film
Speaker 2: Natural Born Killers. I'm just thinking about when that came out.
Speaker 2: That movie was so the cinematography was explosive, it was
Speaker 2: so inventive and creative. Shot like super a chop video
Speaker 2: shot by Robert Richardson. It was just, you know, amazing,
Speaker 2: does beautiful work. Did a lot of work with Oliver Stone,
Speaker 2: now works with quinton.
Speaker 1: Is Quintin done.
Speaker 2: I mean he said that I think he was going
Speaker 2: to do one more, but I don't. You know. It's
Speaker 2: like share where she says farewell, but really she means hello.
Speaker 1: Do do you rush out? Every time Cher says this
Speaker 1: is the last time everybody's on the show gets gifts.
Speaker 1: All it's just stuff from around my house. But anyway, first,
Speaker 1: first I want to give you is these chomps protein bars.
Speaker 1: They're turkey chomps. You're supposed to send me some free shit.
Speaker 1: You haven't sent me anything. I don't like these jalapeno ones.
Speaker 1: They just don't taste as good. So I don't want
Speaker 1: any of the halopeno ones. Dorm by that hair. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you'll get some snack on your way home.
Speaker 2: There's there's some of those thank you.
Speaker 1: Get that off the desk. This is a little a
Speaker 1: board that my brother in law and his wife gave
Speaker 1: me this year. They're like, oh, did you did you
Speaker 1: like that? It's like a wave because I like the ocean.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, yeah, it's fine, but this little it's dumb.
Speaker 1: First of all, who am I serving this to? Like
Speaker 1: I'm having one person come over. I put a lunch
Speaker 1: able on here, like, ah, look at this. Anyway, you'll
Speaker 1: like that. Thank you. Here, we have these sea stank stands.
Speaker 1: Is that what they're called? That is sea stands. We've
Speaker 1: got three of these. We want it for this this
Speaker 1: podcast and we don't use them, so I don't want
Speaker 1: them and I want you to take don't let this
Speaker 1: touch my desk. I swear to God, if you drop
Speaker 1: a sea stand.
Speaker 3: He's got the strength.
Speaker 1: Will you need these for anything? I will?
Speaker 2: Actually?
Speaker 1: Okay, well guess what. Well, you're welcome. You're welcome for
Speaker 1: tax purposes for myself to write this off? What did
Speaker 1: I How much of these worth?
Speaker 2: Seventy bucks each? I'm just guessing them.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's not a bad gift. Then no, that's great.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad that's not that's not hold on,
Speaker 1: I won't last gift.
Speaker 2: It's worth the drive.
Speaker 1: This you you probably won't. Why am I giving you
Speaker 1: a printer? Thing? Okay?
Speaker 2: That was That was a good move. You just sit
Speaker 2: there shoulder workouts.
Speaker 1: Okay, this printer okay, see that's why I don't have
Speaker 1: to work out, because I give heavy gifts. Way, this
Speaker 1: printer is brand new. I got it for when COVID
Speaker 1: hit and the show was temporarily shut down for a bit,
Speaker 1: and I was in Tahoe and they're like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna shoot you know up in Tahoe. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: a green scream up in my garage. Anyway, I needed
Speaker 1: to get a printer. That was way long story. Never
Speaker 1: could get it to work, and then Pete tried to
Speaker 1: get it to work and he couldn't get where. He goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I think the ink dried up. And I'm like, how's
Speaker 1: the ink gonna dry up? Just sitting in a house
Speaker 1: for three years? Whatever? And then he put change the
Speaker 1: ink cartridge and it would only print blue. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I go, that can't be right, and he's like no,
Speaker 1: he goes, and then he said something that I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna repeat, but then it just he goes, it doesn't
Speaker 1: work anymore. I go, there's no way a brand new
Speaker 1: printer that has sat in my house for three years
Speaker 1: only printed in blue ink for two weeks. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm He's like, well it doesn't work. I'm giving this
Speaker 1: to you, and then I want you to fix it
Speaker 1: and print something, and then I will fire Pete.
Speaker 2: Thank you, okay, can take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, please take that off. Don't drag it straight up.
Speaker 1: Look at that show how strong you are. Wall. You
Speaker 1: have a gift for me. I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I did bring something.
Speaker 1: What did you bring for me?
Speaker 2: A book that my mother wrote that is based on
Speaker 2: me as a boy and my childhood imaginary friend.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't first of all, it's why the blonde hair.
Speaker 2: Because I was blonde, really blond, straight, long hair as
Speaker 2: a kid.
Speaker 1: Nothing straight about you.
Speaker 2: Also holding a jerbil is a hamster?
Speaker 1: Oh my bad? Sorry?
Speaker 2: The Adventures it's and there's book. I know you got kids,
Speaker 2: I do, I'll read it.
Speaker 1: I'll read it today. Did you go by Andy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do people still call you Andy?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I didn't think so. I get mad when other people
Speaker 1: that like know you better have a different name. I'm
Speaker 1: always like, well that's not you don't call me Andrew. No,
Speaker 1: his real friends call me Andy. Congratulations on getting married.
Speaker 1: You just got married this past year.
Speaker 2: Two years ago?
Speaker 1: You got married two years? How long together were you?
Speaker 1: Guys together? Before this?
Speaker 2: My husband and I actually met at USC. We were
Speaker 2: randomly assigned as roommates, like literally into the same bedroom.
Speaker 2: It was for summer housing.
Speaker 1: Hottest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so there was another roommate there too, and
Speaker 2: or got me.
Speaker 1: Before guy gets to go. But I was at USC
Speaker 1: and the other two rooms are just banging each other constantly?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: God? Damn it?
Speaker 2: He would tell the story better than I, But I
Speaker 2: was starting to come out. I had only just come
Speaker 2: out to one friend. At SC and not even to
Speaker 2: my parents yet. So there was a closet full of flannels.
Speaker 2: This was like the older me, and I had a
Speaker 2: book that had a kind of topic of homosexuality and
Speaker 2: the spine was turned around. I don't know why I
Speaker 2: did this. I was closeted. So I had all these
Speaker 2: books and then there was one that was turned the
Speaker 2: other direction, and he saw that and saw what it
Speaker 2: was and started to you know.
Speaker 1: Oh, good for him.
Speaker 5: Did you guys ever hook up in college? We were
Speaker 5: boyfriends for how long? Like about a year I think, okay,
Speaker 5: and then we actually broke up. I dumped him, and
Speaker 5: then we were apart for seventeen years. I think, whoa, Yeah,
Speaker 5: we were in and out of relationships.
Speaker 1: Captain touched the whole seventeen years.
Speaker 2: Not and touched the whole time.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: No, we went off and lived separate lives.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: Then we got back together about ten years ago.
Speaker 1: One year in college, seventeen years off and then he
Speaker 1: calls you up, and you, guys are like, right back,
Speaker 1: this is gonna work. This is a relationship.
Speaker 2: It was uncertain in the beginning, but it turns out
Speaker 2: when you're in your late thirties, you're a bit different
Speaker 2: than being twenty one.
Speaker 1: What does your husband do?
Speaker 2: He works in finance.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, your husband works is like a has
Speaker 1: a family office.
Speaker 2: He's a family office manager right.
Speaker 1: Worth of one of his big, big, big clients.
Speaker 2: He doesn't talk numbers.
Speaker 1: What you think he embezzles from them? Do you ever
Speaker 1: think he was gonna knock on the door and like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're both in handcuffs.
Speaker 2: I don't see that.
Speaker 1: I would be terrified because my business manager, I love
Speaker 1: them more than anyone, and I know for a fact
Speaker 1: if I found out they'd been stealing from me for
Speaker 1: twenty five years, I'd be like, Oh, They're like, well
Speaker 1: haven't you looked at your statements in twenty five years?
Speaker 1: I'm like, nope, I haven't. I sure hope they're not. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't steal?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Are you and your husband faithful to each other?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You guys don't. You guys don't allow some like bullshit
Speaker 1: like oh, hall past thing.
Speaker 2: We're very honest.
Speaker 1: Okay, but does that mean that you occasionally do stuff
Speaker 1: like that? Then god damn it, you do all right?
Speaker 2: You gotta put everything on the table.
Speaker 1: Uh huh? I get it, just get it off my table.
Speaker 1: Do you think you'll live in LA for the rest
Speaker 1: of your professional career?
Speaker 2: Possible, But there's a lot of uncertainty right now in
Speaker 2: the business, and so I don't know where my career
Speaker 2: is going to take me. You know, I think I'll
Speaker 2: always travel wherever I'm based, but I think it's you know,
Speaker 2: increasingly that I can be based anywhere and still do
Speaker 2: what I do.
Speaker 1: What advice do you have for some kid that wants
Speaker 1: to move out to LA wants to be a cameraman someday?
Speaker 1: What all do they have to do?
Speaker 2: I think the industry is shifting. I think filmmaking is changing,
Speaker 2: and there's very much been a shift from away from
Speaker 2: like traditional films, movies, TV shows and towards smaller, creator
Speaker 2: driven projects. You know, when I was starting out, I
Speaker 2: had a couple of options. I could try the studio
Speaker 2: system where I work as an assistant and eventually work
Speaker 2: my way up to you know, camera operator, maybe shoot
Speaker 2: second unit. Or I could just start making my own
Speaker 2: projects and meeting other filmmakers. And that's the route that
Speaker 2: I took, and I wouldn't have made a different decision today.
Speaker 2: The downside of that is you don't get to work
Speaker 2: alongside other people and kind of learn from mentors as much.
Speaker 2: But I think shoot as much as you can make
Speaker 2: what you're passionate about, find like minded people and break
Speaker 2: the rules. I think it's important to learn filmmaking, learn
Speaker 2: the basics and then try stuff out and play.
Speaker 1: Do you have to go to film school?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. You don't know now, particularly now you can
Speaker 2: learn so much on YouTube.
Speaker 1: You said you wouldn't do anything different if you it
Speaker 1: came out today with creating your own content, et cetera.
Speaker 1: But would you do the whole USC thing again.
Speaker 2: If it were today?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Probably? Oh, And I think it's because it's a great
Speaker 2: environment to meet other, you know, like minded people.
Speaker 1: Financially, is it is? Are you struggling for a long time?
Speaker 1: If this is the path that you choose.
Speaker 2: That can be the case.
Speaker 1: I mean, is there work out there? It seems like
Speaker 1: there's so many platforms that are making content now, but
Speaker 1: yet it seems like no one's working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think there's more because I think
Speaker 2: the economy is different now you're you're producing for for
Speaker 2: this medium as opposed to I mean, you might get
Speaker 2: lucky and develop a following and find a brand. But
Speaker 2: it's also very competitive. The barrier to entry is lower
Speaker 2: than it's ever been. You know, technology has has is everywhere.
Speaker 2: I mean there's new cameras coming out like every day,
Speaker 2: and people are shooting movies on iPhones.
Speaker 1: I heard the new iPhone seventeen camera is going to
Speaker 1: be a game changer. Oh, I can't wait to shoot
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you going to see what is it? Twenty
Speaker 2: eight months later? That's coming out twenty eight years later.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of this stuff.
Speaker 2: Danny Boyle direct that you shot that on an iPhone?
Speaker 2: You've seen tangerine?
Speaker 1: Tangerine? Yeah, sounds like something I might have seen. But no.
Speaker 2: That was the film about let's just say life around
Speaker 2: Santa Monica and Highland, and it was directed by Sean Baker,
Speaker 2: shot on an iPhone. It's it's beautiful, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of fun.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch it. I don't like movies, No
Speaker 1: I do. I just don't like that. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know how to ask.
Speaker 2: Not four hour movies.
Speaker 1: Oh God, don't even know. There's no world where I'm
Speaker 1: watching four hour movies. Do you see wicked?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 1: Did you like it. Yeah, I thought it was really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I didn't want to like it. I
Speaker 1: was like, please don't like this, Please don't like them
Speaker 1: My god, damn it. I love it. I loved Wicked
Speaker 1: the whole way through it.
Speaker 2: I thought it was fabulous.
Speaker 1: Does it make you angry that John replaced three cameramen
Speaker 1: with two poles in a tripod for this podcast?
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're just doing what you have to
Speaker 2: do and the economics of a podcast.
Speaker 1: What do you think the lighting in here?
Speaker 2: I have notes.
Speaker 1: You want to tinker, don't you. Yeah, every party you
Speaker 1: wants to tinker. Yeah, what's the problem?
Speaker 2: Well, that light source there, it's a bit harsh, like
Speaker 2: it could be it could be a little softer. I
Speaker 2: can tell the type of diffuse material being used. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how it looks on me, but I've
Speaker 2: I've watched some of your other podcasts, and you know,
Speaker 2: at like, I think you could go softer with it.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: I think that there you could. You could. That's probably
Speaker 2: working as an eyelight, but it might be giving some
Speaker 2: double shadows.
Speaker 1: So good.
Speaker 2: We always had an eyelight for you on the show,
Speaker 2: so we would set something low you could put back here.
Speaker 2: You know, I always wanted to have it right here,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't because the center camera would see it.
Speaker 2: So because your eyes kind of are are are sunken
Speaker 2: back a little bit, so you want to see them.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I didn't highlight.
Speaker 2: You could do the Anderson Cooper thing and like cut
Speaker 2: into the desk and then put a piece of glass
Speaker 2: and then they would just have a light like an
Speaker 2: eyelight that would fill you in.
Speaker 1: Anderson Cooper has children, Okay, why don't you have kids? Jerk?
Speaker 1: All right? Andrew, thank you everyboding on the show. Thanks Daniel, Jesus.
Speaker 1: Andrew so aggressive. No, it wasn't sweat. It was just
Speaker 1: the violent class. So strong. Yes, strong hand, big hands too,
Speaker 1: don't you? Yeah you do? Casha, Oh the thing Andrew
Speaker 1: for being on the podcast. I'd also like to file
Speaker 1: a complaint from the Straits. I just think, okay, I
Speaker 1: just thought about this a little more, the idea that
Speaker 1: he went off to college and his roommate became his
Speaker 1: husband one day, right, just saying that's not fair for
Speaker 1: the Straits. How much better would college be if you
Speaker 1: knew that you might get paired up with someone that
Speaker 1: you got to have sex with. Oh wouldn't that be great?
Speaker 1: I mean, how exciting would it be to walk into
Speaker 1: a room. Oh my goodness, this could be my wife.
Speaker 1: I think it would actually help college enrollment. Certainly, it
Speaker 1: would increase people wanting to live in the dorms. Because
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you knew that you could potentially
Speaker 1: be signed up with a girl in your dorm and
Speaker 1: that you guys might have sex, that's awesome because it's
Speaker 1: gonna make way more guys want to live in the dorms.
Speaker 1: And it's also you're gonna say, well, it's gonna make
Speaker 1: less girls want to true, But the girls that do
Speaker 1: want to, you know that they're ready to go. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be that. Those are the horny girls something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they literally signed up for it. Okay, that's not fair.
Speaker 1: Just because they signed up to live with the man
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they want any hanky panky. But Carl,
Speaker 1: head up, you're gonna want to hear this. It also
Speaker 1: makes the ra's job that much more exciting. You know. Oh, no,
Speaker 1: some dude's not taking the hint. She's not into them.
Speaker 1: I gotta get in there and see if she's interested
Speaker 1: in me. Yeah, Okay, it's just gonna be fun. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a new acronym. It's my point. You always
Speaker 1: have this perception of what college is going to be, right,
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I'm gonna get to college just be
Speaker 1: girls and have sex. And it never is that. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have classes and it's hard and I was a
Speaker 1: study all day. This stinks, but I think this, uh
Speaker 1: you know, co ed dorms rooms, that's where it's at. Anyway.
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you play it heavy metal? Why did you
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Speaker 1: All right, I don't need to tell you that if
Speaker 1: I were to be in Wisconsin Dell's on April fourth,
Speaker 1: you would find me at the Legacy Dinner Theater to
Speaker 1: watch the number one Metallic a tribute band working today, Hardwired. Oh, man,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Hardwired? Those are the guys from Tampa, Florida. Yep, yep,
Speaker 1: says it right there, Tampa, Florida. Yeah, if ever there
Speaker 1: was a job, it's like, Oh, I'm in a Metallica
Speaker 1: tribute band. I would be worrying you from Tampa. It
Speaker 1: seems like one hundred percent, there's nothing more nail on
Speaker 1: head than a Metallica tribute band from Tampa, Florida. All Right,
Speaker 1: They've perforred hundreds of performances all over the US pretending
Speaker 1: to be Metallica. It's no wonder they have become a
Speaker 1: household name in the tribute world. I wonder how Lars
Speaker 1: feels about tribute bands. Remember back in the day, Lars
Speaker 1: was the big napster killer, just couldn't handle anybody listening
Speaker 1: to music for free. But I wonder how he feels
Speaker 1: about a tribute He might actually be playing in the
Speaker 1: band for all I know. By the way, is he
Speaker 1: or is he not the worst drummer out of all
Speaker 1: the big successful bands. Pete says, yes, Pete's are drum experts.
Speaker 1: He says, yes. Wow, man, why does he get such
Speaker 1: a voice in the band for all these years? It's like,
Speaker 1: why do I know his name? You shouldn't. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: know a drummer's name, period, let alone a shitty drummer.
Speaker 1: Come at me Metallica fans. If I'm wrong now, don't
Speaker 1: give me wrong. I love Metallica. Oh. I used to
Speaker 1: have in my Honda Civic when I was sixteen.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: I used to add the six by nine s. They
Speaker 1: were in individual boxes with a bass cannon and I had.
Speaker 1: I used to love to play that one slow song.
Speaker 1: What was it? Unforgiven?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Unforgiven? Oh that had some bass that came in toward
Speaker 1: the end of it. I liked it all right. Anyway,
Speaker 1: what were we talking about? This Metallica band? The show
Speaker 1: kicks off at seven with doors opening up five thirty
Speaker 1: general admission. It's forty nine dollars ninety five cents plus
Speaker 1: a nine hour processing fee. Holy cow, that's more than
Speaker 1: what it costed to see Metallica. There's no refunds after purchase, However,
Speaker 1: tickets maybe exchange for another performance to provide. The box
Speaker 1: office is notified in a minimum of forty eight hours
Speaker 1: prior to showtime. For those with mobility issues, contact the
Speaker 1: box office so they can find in you a seat
Speaker 1: near a ramp or a plug for your medical device
Speaker 1: keeping you alive. Nobody wants to die watching not Metallica. UH.
Speaker 1: The Legacy Dinner Theater is located at five six four
Speaker 1: Wisconsin Dell's Parkway, south across from the Wilderness Resort. It's
Speaker 1: right next to UH Pirate Cove's Adventure Golf. That's where
Speaker 1: it is. You know. The other day I heard a
Speaker 1: band warming up at this little rock venue and I
Speaker 1: took my daughter and son into to watch soundcheck and
Speaker 1: they didn't kick me out. They was like yeah, and
Speaker 1: it was a female singer and she was letting it
Speaker 1: rip and my son was just like whoa. And I'm like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you just.
Speaker 3: Came home with something new.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 3: It's a new hack. Just go to sound checks. You
Speaker 3: don't have to go to the show. You're gett to
Speaker 3: see them kind of like warm up, get the pipes,
Speaker 3: tune it in, and then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, leave. You have to have children with you at
Speaker 1: all the time, like you gotta have children. Maybe if
Speaker 1: you don't have cute kids, you're not You're gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna ask you to leave sound check. You know you gotta.
Speaker 1: You got a fugly daughter and they're like, nah, beat it, buddy,
Speaker 1: go buy a ticket. Okay, you got a cute daughter
Speaker 1: that's got her hair and little little buns. They're like,
Speaker 1: come on in, you want to sit down. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: we don't want to sit down. We're at a rock show.
Speaker 1: We're gonna stand. My daughter pulled out a lighter, my
Speaker 1: son was vaping. What are we talking about? See you
Speaker 1: next week