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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal holl.

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Speaker 2: That for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 3: I want to be happy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 3: Edith State is that?

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Speaker 4: Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 1: And down and tie, Dan Rubinstein, we come on the

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Speaker 1: airwaves this evening. Yeah, amid quite a week of college football.

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Speaker 1: Week five is just about in the books, as you know,

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Speaker 1: as many people listening to this right now. No, we

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Speaker 1: have done this show continuously since the year of Our

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Speaker 1: Lord two thousand and eight. We were originally the new

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Speaker 1: the block. We are still doing this on occasion. Throughout

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Speaker 1: the course of our long run in this field of work,

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Speaker 1: we have had games that have moved us emotionally. We

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Speaker 1: have weeks that have featured a multitude of upsets and

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Speaker 1: oddities and weirdness that of college football. It's unique charm.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: The game we saw tonight between Alabama and Georgia is

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Speaker 1: unlike any I can ever remember. Whoa whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 3: No spoilers, it's on the DVR, TYE. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: watch in a couple of weeks. Yeah, it's freaking ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: It is unlike any game I can remember in our

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Speaker 1: again long run of doing this show. Truly the ebbs

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Speaker 1: and the flows and everything in between that make college

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Speaker 1: football special. Hello, Welcome to the show. I am Ty.

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Speaker 5: He is Dan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, it is the top twelve things you

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Speaker 1: need to know about college football Week five. We're also

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Speaker 1: perks as well. I have droned on far too long,

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Speaker 1: my friend, You're good. How did you feel about what

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Speaker 1: you just saw exhilarated.

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Speaker 3: Ty, my name is Dan. I'm a fan of neither

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Speaker 3: of these teams. I'm just a fan of the sport,

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Speaker 3: and I feel exhilarated. I Look, the thing that's incredible

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Speaker 3: is how quickly things can change in any direction. There

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Speaker 3: was I forget the exact order of operations, but it

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Speaker 3: was something like, you know, punt interception, punt from Georgia

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Speaker 3: to start the game and oh, you're down twenty eight

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Speaker 3: nothing now right, That's all it took from the Georgia offense.

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Speaker 3: It was an off night to start, especially for Georgia

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Speaker 3: on offense, but certainly their ability to tackle Jalen mill

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Speaker 3: this game left a lot to be desired. But I

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Speaker 3: this is something. This is just gonna be one of

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Speaker 3: of way that they stuck with it that they weathered

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Speaker 1: Incredible performance. So, just to level set, Alabama wins the

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Speaker 1: Alabama very quickly strikes back late in the game with

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Speaker 3: They're going to be excellent. But holy hell, Ryan Williams,

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Speaker 1: He showed why, he showed why he might be the

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Speaker 1: doesn't hurt that much, right if you were gonna lose

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Speaker 1: So it's it's going to be viewed by the committee

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Speaker 1: even though George's got the one lost. The other thing

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Speaker 3: Jump in real quick?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Please?

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Speaker 3: I think your heart's in the right place. But this

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Speaker 3: is sort of like the night of the breakup, telling

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Speaker 3: plenty of fish in the sea. It hurts right now.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell people not to hurt. If you're a Georgia fan,

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Speaker 1: Listen, under threw.

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Speaker 3: He underthrew Colby Young near the end of the game,

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Speaker 3: and look, Colby Young maybe could have made that play

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Speaker 3: Xavian Brown. I got got a little bit lucky that

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Speaker 3: that wasn't a PI there in that moment. Then he

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Speaker 3: got the pick on the next play. But like telling

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not telling I'm not telling you to not hate.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you you gotta feel the pain you got

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Speaker 6: I get it.

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Speaker 1: I've been there, yeah, But I'm just saying, bigger picture,

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Speaker 3: Give it a couple of poor Georgia people, give it

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Speaker 1: I don't think George is going to be viewed negatively

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Speaker 1: them all. Well, we'll talk through all the dumb things

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Speaker 1: Milroe was not going to be the starting quarterback for Kailin.

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Speaker 1: I love that take, right and again it was it

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Speaker 1: logic was Kaylen to Board doesn't usually have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: like this. The system he runs is more of an

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Speaker 1: air raid commination pro style air raid, but it's more

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Speaker 1: That type of thing. That's not really Jalen Moro's game.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe's game is he can run. He has the

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Speaker 1: times in this football game. What is a parent in

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Speaker 1: this game is that I was very wrong A and B.

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Speaker 1: They have adjusted the system to his skill set, which

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Speaker 1: is always the best kind of coach to know. We

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Speaker 1: have to figure out the best way to assemble the

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Speaker 1: Not only is he going to be the starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: the full way through, he may end up being a

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Speaker 1: first round draft pick. And on top of it all,

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Speaker 1: just at a minimum, he looks way better than he

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Speaker 1: Jalen Morrow. In this game, he had command, He looked

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Speaker 1: incredibly started the game something like eleven for eleven. It

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Speaker 1: might have been more. I lost track. I kind of

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Speaker 1: blacked out. He looked outstanding in this football game. If

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Speaker 3: right If I may do issue a maya couple myself

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Speaker 3: in previewing this game, why I didn't you know, fall

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Speaker 3: Brock Vandergriff on that huge fourth down throw like it

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Speaker 1: Yolo, Baby, Yolo.

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Speaker 3: And as sort of uneven as Brock vandergriff has been

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Speaker 1: This was their biggest road win since nineteen seventy seven

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Speaker 3: It was there for this to field goal late. Yep,

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Speaker 1: This is exactly the kind of game that makes you

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Speaker 1: And I understand if you're an old misfan hearing that

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Speaker 1: It's losses like this in a year like this where

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and even looking at the results of this game

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Speaker 1: The other subplot that I noticed and I mentioned to you,

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Speaker 3: It does seem like there is something, there's a Tony

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Speaker 1: we'll continue to discuss. Picture you follow or subscribe. A

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Speaker 1: big win for Kentucky, right kudos. Twenty to seventeen They

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Speaker 3: Ah, what happened in Friday Night?

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Speaker 1: Man Friday Night lights. We have been blessed with some

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Speaker 1: That one came down to potential game tying field goal

439
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: that didn't go through. But the obvious headliner was this

440
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 1: Miami game. So here, here is the deal. Here's what transpired.

441
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 1: Miami scores a touchdown with about two minutes left to

442
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: take the lead. Virginia Tech goes into its two minute offense,

443
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: which frankly showed very little urgency. And I'll talk about

444
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: it in a little bit tough. Yeah, one of those deals,

445
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: truly where you're yelling at the TV Okay. Game comes

446
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: down to a hail Mary. They burnt through a bunch

447
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: of time that they didn't have to burn through because

448
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: they didn't know how to manage it. Throw the hail mary.

449
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was a complete pass to Da Kwan Felton. Okay,

450
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: what did you think watching this? I couldn't see anything, ty,

451
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't. My initial thought was that's a complete pass.

452
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: And they showed the video replay review it did go

453
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: to review, and what the acc said after reversing the

454
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: call was quote during the view process of the last

455
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 1: play of the Virginia Tech at Miami game, it was

456
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: determined that the loose ball was touched by a Miami

457
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: player while he was out of bounds, which makes it

458
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: an incomplete pass and immediately ends the play. It was

459
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: extremely difficult, even when they zoomed way the hell in

460
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 1: to figure out did somebody catch the ball, was anybody

461
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 1: out of bounds? Was the ball controlled for any period

462
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: of time that would constitute possession and therefore a game

463
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: winning touchdown. I was surprised first off that they would

464
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Speaker 1: rule it a touchdown on the field and not just

465
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Speaker 1: and not just sort of be like, we need to

466
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: go and look at this because we have no idea

467
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: what happened. And then b the fact that they did

468
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: rule it a touchdown on the field means that they

469
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: need conclusive evidence via the replay in order to overturn it.

470
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: The fact that anybody saw anything conclusive in that replay,

471
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: to me was mind boggling, because it was we saw

472
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: it about as close as the referees did, and probably

473
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: on higher resolution screens than the referees did. In the moment,

474
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: and I could not make heads of tails of it.

475
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: I really couldn't. Long story short, Miami survives at home.

476
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: The final score was thirty eight to thirty four. They

477
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: escape with a win. It's a tough loss for Virginia Tech.

478
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: But this was one of the dramatic moments that everybody's

479
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: been talking about.

480
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 3: Among a lot of house Yeah.

481
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Speaker 1: So, and certainly one of those deals that we're going

482
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: to talk about for weeks to come here, all dating

483
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: back to week five in that Friday night game.

484
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

485
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 3: When I when the play happened live, I was like,

486
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 3: I something happened. There's a mess of arms and legs

487
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,239
Speaker 3: and jerseys and I have no idea what happened. And

488
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: it seemed like the ref in the end zone was

489
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: confused for a long time. Then a Miami player ran

490
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: out of the morass of people with the ball with

491
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 3: the ball l D lights in the stadium aren't flashing,

492
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 3: and Miami people start running onto the field, and then

493
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: there's an announcement that no, the game's not over, and

494
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 3: the ref says it was ruled a touchdown on the field.

495
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Speaker 3: I think that's the order, if I remember correctly, that's exactly.

496
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Speaker 3: And then you watch the whatever three or four replay angles,

497
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: and you kind of see somebody come down with the ball.

498
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: You kind of see the ball wobble. You can't really

499
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 3: tell when the ball's wobbling or if the guy is

500
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: on top of another guy who's out of bounds when

501
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 3: he actually controls the ball, and if his feed were

502
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: ever down first, you can't see anything. And so somehow

503
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: the ref makes that call that it's a touchdown to

504
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: his eyes in person in the moment, and then they

505
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: look at the replay and decide no. And they're showing

506
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Speaker 3: the replay center in North Carolina wherever it is in Charlotte,

507
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 3: and they're watching the same clips we are. They're not

508
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 3: watching special angles. You can see it. And they's like

509
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: show the replay camera angles and everybody's watching the same stuff.

510
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: You meet, the replay officials, whoever, people in anchorage, everybody's

511
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: you know, got the same stuff. And they overturn it,

512
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 3: which just never should have been called a touchdown the field,

513
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: Like I feel like they got to the right results

514
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: the wrong way, if that makes any sense. And so

515
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't know why you have this process in place.

516
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: I don't agree with how everything transpired, but I don't

517
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: know how you can call that a touchdown. So it

518
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: was a wild game even without that, right the blown

519
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 3: up fake field goal that Virginia Tech attempted. You mentioned

520
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: the clock management near the end of the game, that

521
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: they weren't playing with more urgency.

522
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Speaker 1: Dan, I would I would probably be fit to be

523
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: tied if I were a Tech fan.

524
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: Same thing I have with Michigan by the way, against Minnesota.

525
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the game, sure, if I

526
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Speaker 1: were a Tech fan. Again, much like the game we

527
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: just discussed with the old miss loss, Yeah, this was

528
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: another one. If you're a Tech fan, it was there.

529
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they ran all over it was therefore

530
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: they ran all over Miami.

531
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Speaker 3: But in the end of the turnovers.

532
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the two minute offense is really bad. It has

533
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: no urgency, and at times as they're trying to drive

534
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: the field to win the game, it kind of felt

535
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: like they didn't have a clue what was going on.

536
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's a practice thing. I

537
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a personnel thing or a coaching thing,

538
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: but something there is broken, and that would drive me crazy. Secondly,

539
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: the coaching decisions weren't great, notably that fake field goal

540
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: that you mentioned.

541
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: And the kicker was nails and the kicker kicks. I mean,

542
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: all they would have needed was a field goal, right.

543
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: If he kicked the seven yard or earlier in the game, right,

544
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: which again, that could be its own podcast as how

545
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: these guys are making field goals like this all of

546
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: a sudden but totally that notwithstanding, Yeah, the fact that

547
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: they made that call, when they made that call to

548
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: go fake field goal, felt like it was more emotional

549
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: than logical, which is not what you want. And then

550
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: it was like, I think, bigger picture, just this realization

551
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: that this is a team that ran the ball super

552
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: well in this game, that got itself in a position

553
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: to win this game, that could have been up more

554
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: in this game and just sort of ice the lead.

555
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: And yet here we are again where Virginia Tech finds

556
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: itself in another close game that they're going to lose. Yeah,

557
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: this team should be better than this, and right now

558
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: it's two and three, probably a fringe bowl team if

559
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: you look at their schedule. Everybody was high on Virginia

560
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: Tech coming into this year. I think on the back

561
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: of the schedule. If nothing more, the talent at the

562
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: end of last season seemed like it was progressing and

563
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: moving forward.

564
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: But back a ton.

565
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they brought back a ton. Returning production was all.

566
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: There was a lot to build on and feel good

567
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: about the fact that we're here now with Virginia Tech

568
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: is is one of those things. It's not quite a

569
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: full Florida state at this point, not even close to it, No,

570
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: but it's at least in the same vein of being

571
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: I think a very very shocking outcome through the first

572
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: month of the season.

573
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way, to give Miami some flowers

574
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 3: for being able to pull this out with the picks

575
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: that cam Ward through that were brought back considerable amount

576
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 3: and the early turnover he had he fumbled it early on. Yeah,

577
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: improving with that little shovel to. I think it was

578
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: Riley Williams. Two or three tight ends. Elijah Arroyo was

579
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: great in this game where Streppo caught a ball on

580
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: his ass on a key fourth down, like Miami made

581
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: plays when it needed to make plays. I think the

582
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: right tackle like swept somebody Via had. I don't know

583
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 3: if that was the unsportsman like conduct, but he got

584
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: beat on a play and threw his legs up to

585
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: try and block somebody. It was I mean, it was

586
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: effort for Miami to win this game.

587
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: There is a duality to both cam Ward and the

588
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes this year. Yeah, because the highs of cam

589
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Ward or Heisman caliber. Yeah, he had what four hundred

590
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: total yards five total touchdowns in this game. The lows

591
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: are the two Pixie threw, which honestly looked like the

592
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: kind of picks I've been throwing in college football twenty five.

593
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, playing with cam Ward setting an edge, the Miami

594
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: defense setting an edge against the run pretty low. Wasn't

595
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: great against Virginia Day at all.

596
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: No, So it's and then on the Miami side, if

597
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: you zoom out a little bit, their duality is that

598
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: they're obvious talented enough to come back and win a

599
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: game like this down two scores, but still flawed enough

600
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: to be in a situation like this to begin with. Yeah,

601
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: and that is what they are fighting against. That is

602
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: sort of I think the overarching narrative about Miami when

603
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: we talk about it, are they getting the swagger back

604
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: and they get back to the mountaintop and be what

605
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: they once were, And all you got to make sure

606
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: you win these games. Now, they did win this game.

607
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: Winnings better than losing tie. It did win the game. Yeah,

608
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: but after again being incredible the first couple weeks of

609
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: the season, playing a game like this at home. Maybe

610
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: not against a bad team by any stretch, but showing

611
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: this level of vulnerability does make you question what they're

612
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: going to do moving forward.

613
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, who would have thought winning big games under

614
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: Mario Cristobal would be very taxing emotionally and stressful and

615
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: not something you want to go through again.

616
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: Continue point number four. Penn State twenty one, Illinois seven.

617
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: It's a nice win.

618
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: How much this game, if any?

619
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: Did you watch a good amount on and off right

620
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: that was the Georgia Alabama game happening. There was a

621
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: bunch of stuff happening. I kept going back to Cincinnati

622
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: Texas attack on that shootout. There's a lot of fun

623
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: stuff happening tonight.

624
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: This was an incredibly lopsided game in favor of Penn State. Yeah,

625
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: it was a game controlled by Penn State's defense, by

626
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: Penn State's rushing attack. They had two miss kicks from

627
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: Sanders Sahitik, who is local to my area and so

628
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: I've been rooting for him to do well, but he

629
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: had a kicking issue last season and got yanked, and

630
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: my hunch is that it's about to be one of

631
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: those deals where he's gone for good. Yeah, probably toast

632
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: after missing two more field goals and almost missing an

633
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: extra point a little bit later on in this football

634
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: game as well. So I felt like Penn State had

635
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good handle on this one, but Illinois again

636
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: remained on brand. Illinois, much like Kentucky right, likes to

637
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: ugly up a game, likes to slow a game down,

638
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: likes to make you uncomfortable and put you in weird

639
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: situations and keep it close enough that maybe they're within

640
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: striking distance. And for a good chunk of this game,

641
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: that's exactly what they were. Yeah, very much in striking

642
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: distance in terms of this.

643
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: I've been on dates like that. By the way, tie

644
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: just make somebody uncomfortable, slow it down, and control the tempa. Settle, settle,

645
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: settle continue. That was the style of this football game.

646
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: So I actually want to give Illinois a lot of

647
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: credit for going into Beaver Stadium. The quote unquote unofficial

648
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: wide out in play a loud, raucous environment, not.

649
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: A great numbers on the helmets, tie numbers.

650
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: On the helmets. I love that look for Pennsandanes. Look

651
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: love that look for Penn State. There was a lot

652
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: of momentum on the Penn State side, So for Illinois

653
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: to go in there and I think perform pretty well,

654
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: that speaks volumes about where this team is at Penn State.

655
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: Their ability to run the football is something that we

656
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: had called out in the build up to this season,

657
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: because we know in Andy kotal Nikki's time at Kansas

658
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: they built a premiere ground attack almost immediately upon him

659
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: getting there, and last season Penn State in particular, did

660
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: not perform on the ground the way that we had hoped.

661
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: We saw what they did in twenty two, but twenty

662
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: three was almost a step back. They had k Tron

663
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: Allen obviously Nick Singleton, two top flight running backs that

664
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: they just didn't do enough with. It seemed. If this

665
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: game's any indication, it seems as if they're going to

666
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: lean heavily on those two guys to move the needle

667
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: on offense, hopefully to open up the passing game. I

668
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: like that strategy if it's something they continue to do.

669
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: I also like the fact they're getting creative. They're using

670
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: Ty Warren. They're tight end as like a wildcat quarterback,

671
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: putting him into positions where he almost doesn't have a position.

672
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: They're just utilizing his skill set. They're finding creative ways

673
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: to move this offense, and I think it's getting better.

674
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: Curious to see what it looks like now moving forward.

675
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: But a nice win for Penn State at home against

676
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: a ranked opponent in Illinois doesn't always got to be pretty.

677
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: No wins wins winning, You'll take it.

678
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: You always take it. Now, Penn State has survived Brett

679
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: Bielama and Heisman, Harry Right, Harold fannin nobody certain nobody,

680
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: nobody feels good after playing him. Texa aam doesn't feel good?

681
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: Oh do you?

682
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: Most certainly does not feel good. I don't. I think

683
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: Harold Fannon put up another like Buck eighty tonight. But yeah,

684
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: Penn State chugs on undefeated. Good for them.

685
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Point five is a Notre Dame game, thirty one to

686
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: twenty four Notre Name beasts Louisville.

687
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: By the way, point four and a half is Dylan

688
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: Gabriel just threw one of the ugliest pick sixes of

689
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: anybody that anybody will ever throw. Organ was about to

690
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 3: score a touchdown of up thirty five to three at

691
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: the half against Ucla, and he got fleshed out of

692
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: the pocket and threw it directly like to a UCLA

693
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: player five yards from him, with no Oregon player nearby.

694
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: He pulled a Peyton Thornton. It was truly Oh the

695
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: guy slip. The Oregon guy slipped. Still horrific. Continue point

696
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: number five.

697
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 1: Notre Dame beat Louisville thirty one to twenty four. This

698
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: game was weird, man, this is a weird game. It

699
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: was a rainy day in South Bend. There were three

700
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: fumbles within the first eight minutes. I was counting them

701
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: out on Twitter at eventually I stopped at five. I

702
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: don't think there were anymore, but a lot of mistakes,

703
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: a couple turnovers apiece for both Louisville and Notre Dame.

704
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: Notre Dame was able to I think, get more out

705
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: of Riley Leonard.

706
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: I think need to hit them downfield early.

707
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: He hits them downfield early. I think I need to

708
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: readjust what my expectations are for him, because if your

709
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: hope is that Riley Leonard is going to step into

710
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: this thing as it was for me, he's going to

711
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: step in and suddenly he's going to be thrown for

712
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: two to fifty a game. That's just not what they're

713
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: going to do with them. It's clear they're not going

714
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: to do that. They're going to use his legs. They're

715
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: going to use their own rushing attack more in hopes

716
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: of then opening some stuff up down the field, play

717
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: action and RPO stuff, getting guys to the edge, getting

718
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: guys in space, stuff like that. They were able to

719
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: open up some of those roots up the middle, down

720
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: the seam, longer throws for Riley Leonard that we have

721
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: seen this season. It's good to see him doing more

722
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: of that. I'm still not convinced that they have fixed

723
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: quote unquote fixed Riley Leonard. I think they're still relying

724
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: a little bit too much on the quarterback run. I

725
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: don't know what games on the schedule remain for Notre Dame,

726
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: maybe outside USC that can put that truly to the

727
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: test and put Notre Dame in uncomfortable situations where they

728
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: have to veer from that game plan that works their advantage.

729
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: This was really the biggest remaining obstacle on the schedule,

730
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: barring another Northern Illinois situation. Of course, so this may

731
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: not be something that we truly see be exploited by

732
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: an opponent until Notre Dame gets to a bowl or

733
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: some version of the postseason, whether it's playoff or otherwise.

734
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, it's never good. When this was an NBA

735
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: Peacock game, right, there was a don't start with the

736
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: Peacock name. No, no, I'm just saying, this is not the broadcast.

737
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: This is more like that. The broadcast put up a

738
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: graphic about like notable Riley Leonard accomplishments in his Notre

739
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: Dame career and it was like only the third quarterback

740
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: to have six rushing touchdowns in September, and you're like, well,

741
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: he's a quarterback and we're talking about not throwing early on.

742
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: So no good for him, because right after that, I

743
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: think he was successful. It was it Jayden great House,

744
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: who he connected with down Dale.

745
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: Had a nice and a nice strow Jaden great House.

746
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can do a lot worse than

747
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: hitting a wide open receiver for a long touchdown. And

748
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: so there were plenty of instances in this game where

749
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: there were guys or wide open that is set up

750
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: by the quarterback. Run that is set up by what

751
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: they were doing on the ground. Some of the side

752
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: to side stuff, you pull them apart side to side,

753
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: then you stretch the field when you've got seams to

754
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: work with. And so they've done that now for two

755
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: consecutive weeks, and it was good to see him do

756
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: it against Louisville. I actually thought Tyler Shuck looked pretty

757
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: good for the most part. He had a couple of

758
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: picks in this game, but by and large, the fact

759
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: that he's out there, that he's healthy. He made some

760
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: incredible throws and I'm curious.

761
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: It's a great throw to ja Cory Brooks late right

762
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: to bring it with a really good score.

763
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: I thought, all things considered, Tyler Shuck look pretty good.

764
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: He was, you know, under attack for a good chunk

765
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: of this game as well. But I'm curious to see

766
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: how that's going to play moving forward down the ACC

767
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: because the ACC is all over the place, right. Louisville

768
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: very much has a part to play in that ACC

769
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: conversation the deeper we get into this thing. I still

770
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: think they're a pretty good team. They moved the ball

771
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: fairly well against Notre Dame. They're very explosive on the

772
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: ground for sure, They're very explosive on the ground. I

773
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: think they have improved in the passing game. I think

774
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: they have improved certainly out wide with their receivers. They

775
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: have I think impressed me in just this limited window

776
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: that I had a chance to watch them firsthand against

777
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: what we know is a good defense, a defense that

778
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: again performed pretty well. But all things considered, I was

779
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: I was impressed with the way that Louisville acquitted itself.

780
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 6: Here.

781
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: Tried to tell you, ty, Notre Dame opponents not play down,

782
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: to play up to the moment.

783
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: I think I said it first. I don't disagree with you.

784
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I took I took Notre Dame.

785
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: Here, you took Notre Dame. I was on Louisville. I

786
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: don't know what the final spread.

787
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: And oh no, you had Louisville outright. I think I

788
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: took points, but I knew Notre Dame was gonna win.

789
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, point number six, Yes, please, I am titling this one.

790
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: Who's the boss?

791
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: M Angela?

792
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: Who's the boss?

793
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 5: From?

794
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: Who's the boss? Yeah?

795
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: Who is the big twelve boss?

796
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: Dan Rubs A good question, Travis Hunter.

797
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

798
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: So who is the top tier? Who is atop the

799
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: top tier. I think the last time I checked, Utah

800
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 3: was losing the Arizona. I don't know what the score

801
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: is right now. It's no cam rising tonight.

802
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: We'll get to it. We'll get don't don't don't.

803
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: I know, I don't, but I'm just saying, Utah has

804
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: to be in that conversation, pending what happens as we

805
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: record this show. Of course, who's the boss? Right now?

806
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: Colorado with a nice road wind that I did not

807
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: see coming in this specific manner. I knew that they

808
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: were gonna be able to move the ball against ted

809
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 3: Roof because who among us?

810
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: We'll get to Colorado too.

811
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: I know I'm just talking out loud. I'm working through

812
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 3: it out loud.

813
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, this is part of why I'm asking it now.

814
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm crazy about BYU, but winning

815
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: is better than losing. And in consecutive weeks they've beaten

816
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: a good defense in Baylor, what we think is a

817
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: good defense and a quality team in Kansas State. What

818
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: Kansas State did to Oklahoma State and what Colorado did

819
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: to UCF. You know, I Aoways State had a slow

820
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: start and the defense was great obviously against Houston, but

821
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: the offense didn't show consistent pop as far as I

822
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: could tell. I haven't watched that game in detail yet,

823
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: so forgive me if I'm wrong about that. Right now,

824
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: I think those are the two teams depending on Utah's

825
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: performance as at time of recording that I like a

826
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: lot right now.

827
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: BYU won that game thirty four to twenty eight. Yeah,

828
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: despite a late push from Baylor. Yeah, they had jumped

829
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: out to a twenty one to dozing lead. They looked

830
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: unstoppable in the first half. Yeah, I watch every second

831
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: of that game. Un freaking stoppable in the first half.

832
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Everything they did worked.

833
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: Your boy, Jake Brett's laugh, He's do everything.

834
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked like Tom Brady, incredible, just finding open guys.

835
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: They had no answer for anything that Bya you did.

836
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: This is still not the world's most efficient offense. I

837
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: don't think it's ever going to get there. But it

838
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: feels like they have a really good sense for who

839
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: they are and Kalani Sataki is certainly getting the most

840
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: out of his guys. It also feels like they're getting better,

841
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: which is an important point to add to this whole thing,

842
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: because they're now five and zero. Our Fellowship of the

843
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: Verbal Group, which was very helpful this week. Thank it

844
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: everybody that helped us organize all this stuff. Yes, they

845
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: noted there's a chance that we could see a battle

846
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: of unbeatens in the Holy War in November, pending whatever

847
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: Utah does moving forward. Cam Rising will talk about that too.

848
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: But BYU now is just starting to get into the

849
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: meat of its schedule, and they do look good. I

850
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: do think they're getting better. It's definitely possible that they

851
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: could find a way through and get to that game

852
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: in November with having a loss, but they need to

853
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: prove that they cannot only get up on teams but

854
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: hold leads. They almost act this one away.

855
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: Got to run the ball with more than our guy, Jake.

856
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: I almost the act this one away. And this has

857
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: let me if I could take a positive spin on

858
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: Baylor for a second, because I think a lot of

859
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: Baylor fans are down pretty bad. And if you go

860
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: to like coaches hotseat dot com and websites that track

861
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: where are coaches at, Dave Randa's pretty hot on that list.

862
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: It's not been great for Randa the last year and

863
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: a half now, but this defense only allowed three points

864
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: after halftime. They worked their way back into a position

865
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: where they actually had a shot to win, despite having

866
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: no running game and putting in a backup quarterback who

867
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: I think at this point should probably be the starter.

868
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: Sorry Robertson, He's he's got game.

869
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 3: He's good. I mean, he's got picks. He's got everybody,

870
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: but he picks to that. He's got a very sloppy Saturday. Yeah,

871
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 3: he's got game.

872
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: They built the plane out of him, and it seems

873
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: like the team responds to him.

874
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: I agree.

875
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: This is a young team, it's a flawed team. The

876
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: fact that they did not give up despite being down

877
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: twenty one erl early. Usually that is the sign of

878
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: a team that's going to get better. They're young, they're flawed,

879
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: but they're not giving up. And more importantly, they got

880
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: back to a point where they were within striking distance.

881
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: We'll see. I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic that maybe

882
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: this is just a Baylor team that's a work in

883
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: progress and not so much a foregone conclusion that they're

884
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: going to be terrible all season long.

885
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: No, they're not going to be terrible, but just how

886
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: much you know, how much work are Baylor fans and

887
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: administration people willing to access when you lose in a

888
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: very dumb way in the Hail Mary game and fumbling

889
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: across the goal line and you start the game at

890
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 3: sloppy at home as they did against BYU, not saying

891
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: BYU is you know, an automatic should be an automatic

892
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: win for Baylor. They're a tough team this year. And hey,

893
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: look I was elationally.

894
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: I was wrong on BYU too, because my comment about

895
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: this game was, I don't I think they're mirage on offense.

896
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what they are. Well, I don't know

897
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: if there's really anything, but I think Colonie Sataki knows

898
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: what he's got from a personnel standpoint, and he just

899
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: seems to be really good to find in the right

900
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: positions to put these guys in. Yeah, it doesn't need

901
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: to be anything specific, doesn't need to even have a name.

902
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: It's just he's good at assembling the troops. And I

903
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: think this is a pretty good testament to why on

904
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: the k State side of things.

905
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: Well, I was just gonna say, Ty, please before we

906
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: run away too far. Baylor might be dangerous, Baylor might

907
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: be interesting, Baylor might be feisty, But in the end, Ty,

908
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: they were less than Jake continued, the guy I was

909
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: sitting on that I was waiting, I was I was

910
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: being patient. Let's go to Kansas State.

911
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: It was forty two to twenty. K State beat Oklahoma State.

912
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: This was the version of Avery Johnson that gives you

913
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: the warm fuzzies.

914
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: After like the first couple drives.

915
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Yes, this was the Verdi five touchdowns total touchdowns. Got

916
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: to see the best of them through the air and

917
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: on the ground. He is a blur when he runs.

918
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: He is super fast and a real problem to try

919
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: and defend. You combine that with DJ Giddens, who had

920
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: an incredible game on the ground. K State rushed for

921
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: about three hundred as a team. This is the kind

922
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: of offense a Chris Climate wants to play. And the

923
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: reason now that I'm almost inclined to put k State

924
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: back atop This conversation totally separate from whatever goes on

925
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: with Utah. I don't know what's what their deal is

926
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 1: because we're recording as they are playing. But k State

927
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: could run this exact offense the next six games and

928
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: no one's going to stop it. They could do the

929
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: exact same thing.

930
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: Who do they have?

931
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: I could read it off to you if you want

932
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: me to, I got to pull it up, but I

933
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: have it. They could do this the next six games

934
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: before they get to their final matchup against Iowa State

935
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: and the farming get.

936
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: At Colorado will be tough, but could.

937
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: They run on Colorado?

938
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: Though they should be able to Virginia feightsty but they

939
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: can do this. Kansas has been a very disappointing team.

940
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: Houston has shown a little bit of fight, but no

941
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 3: offense to speak of, and so that's gonna put their

942
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: defense out. It's going to hang them out to dry Asu.

943
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: I'm not there. Cincinnati, Iowa State, I would say it's

944
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: gonna be extremely tough.

945
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: Iowa States to one, I would say to one, but

946
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: all the other ones, there's other six games that you listed. Yeah,

947
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: they could run this version of that offense where they

948
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: just pounded on the ground and be really really effective.

949
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: So I think we need to reassess where we're at

950
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: with Kansas State. We also need to reassess the Oklahoma

951
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: State thing. We've been kind of warning about this now

952
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: for a few weeks running but they still can't run

953
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: the damn ball.

954
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: Dan, No, they can't.

955
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Oli Gordon had seventy two yards in the first quarter,

956
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: it looked like they were finally going to get him going.

957
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: He finished, so he finally showed something.

958
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, he finished with seventy six yards. Okay, So once

959
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: k State made some adjustments, it was clear that they

960
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: had shifted their focus. They found a way to bottle

961
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: up that run. And again they were another team that

962
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: were trying to put it all on Alan Bowman. And

963
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: I'm glad Alan Bowman's good and healthy out there. He's

964
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: in his seventh or he's got a ton of game

965
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: experience at this point. I just don't think he's good

966
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: enough to lift Oklahoma State. And showed this game.

967
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: It showed this game, and unfortunately the Jean stribbling in

968
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: a losing effort went for like a buck sixty and

969
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: is one of the best two or three receivers in

970
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: this conference without a doubt. Yeah, I guess that's the

971
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 3: only question with ky State. On the k State side,

972
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: if I am a Wildcat fan, if I'm yelling emo

973
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: at everybody who winter, wonder who is that guy that

974
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: you are going to go to down four? Who is

975
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: that receiver? Because that was like the end of the

976
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: Will Howard era too. It was just like he needs guys,

977
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: and I think Avery Johnson obviously can offer something with

978
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: his legs that even though Will Howard was quite athletic

979
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 3: and could spring big runs, Avery Johnson's a different animal

980
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: at the ball. He is. I mean, they roll him

981
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: out a lot, and he's got a lot of grass. Constantly,

982
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: he makes a lot of very like sound disc visions

983
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: and about like when to run and when to throw.

984
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: His throwing isn't great, which is why he's running more

985
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: and more. But it got better today.

986
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: It did.

987
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: That's nice to see, but I don't, you know, they

988
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: just don't have poppet receiver like I'd love to see

989
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: from a contender right now.

990
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: Chris climb And talked a little bit about the week

991
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: of practice. They all talk about the week of practice

992
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: or guys look good in the week of practice.

993
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: But best week we've had.

994
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did say almost verbatim that about Avery Johnson

995
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: that earlier in the week he went them to like

996
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: thirty three of thirty five in practice. It was the

997
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: best he's seen of him. Sure, and he did look

998
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: better throwing the football in this game. Still has some lumps.

999
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: He's never he should pass her, but he's.

1000
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: He should be one of the passers in this sport

1001
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 3: that has if the offense is constructed properly, because defenses

1002
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: have to respect his legs so much. Ty, it's my

1003
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: dream for people to respect my legs like the way

1004
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: defenses should be respecting Avery Johnson's legs. So should be

1005
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 3: whether it's in the RPO game, whether it's in play action,

1006
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: whether it's rolling him out that he is going to

1007
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: put a lot of people in conflict, and we should

1008
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 3: see more big plays from this k State offense.

1009
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: I was super impressed by the k State performance, and

1010
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: after losing a BYU, I wasn't sure where to put

1011
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: up in now BYU with a nice win against Baylor,

1012
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if we have much choice, especially now

1013
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: that Oklahoma State lost again. I kind of feel like

1014
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: Utah aside, we just by default have to put k

1015
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: State and BYU a top kind of our own personal

1016
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: power rankings for this conference.

1017
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 3: Down thirteen to three. UTI is right now to Arizona

1018
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: Middle lateish third.

1019
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: Quarter point number seven. Yeah no, Matthew Sluka, but no problem,

1020
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: no issue. UNLV destroyed. Where is my sound?

1021
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: Guess who just got borded?

1022
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: Destroyed? Fresno State fifty nine to fourteen man with hajaj

1023
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: Malik Williams their backup quarterback now the starting quarterback who

1024
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: came over from the Campbell Fighting Campbell's Dan yep. Three

1025
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: hundred and one in total yardage, four total touchdowns. At

1026
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: one point, they led this game thirty one to nothing.

1027
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was immediate.

1028
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: This was a flash fry, an incredible showing after what

1029
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: I can only imagine was a very very distracting week. Now,

1030
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: we did see some of the so you always see this,

1031
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: but for whatever it's worth to you, in the immediate

1032
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: aftermath of the Sluka thing, we did see a lot

1033
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: of supportive social media postings from other UNLV players that

1034
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: we're excited Hodjemlak Williams is going to be the quarterback. Yes, right.

1035
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: They seem very supportive of that. Nobody was really hanging

1036
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: their head. There's always one of two ways that these

1037
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: things can go. There is the season's going to bottom

1038
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: out now because we lost one of, if not our

1039
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 1: best player. Or are they gonna go full varsity blues

1040
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: on it and just win to spite him. Yeah, they

1041
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: wanted to spite him. They want to spite Matthew Sluca

1042
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: and I just kept thinking while I was watching parts

1043
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: of this game, no wonder they didn't pay him. Save

1044
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: the money for this guy, because this guy looked really

1045
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: good and what was playing in arguably one of the

1046
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: biggest games of the season. So not only did he

1047
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: put to bed a lot of the questions I think

1048
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: we had about UNLV and can they operate their offense

1049
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: without Matthew Sluca. This is not to say Fresno has

1050
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: a lockdown defense, mind you, that was a problem last year.

1051
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: I still think it's a problem this year, but nonetheless

1052
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: a really positive performance. We do have to start asking

1053
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: the question now, because we're through Week five, is UNLV

1054
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: the best G five team? Are they the best G five?

1055
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: Are?

1056
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 3: In that handful of conversation At the moment, Poise State

1057
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 3: is up a couple of touchdowns on Wazoo. I think

1058
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 3: it's thirty one seventeen, Ashton genty running wild as expected. Yeah,

1059
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: with what's happening in the Sun Belts, with you know,

1060
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: app State going down the way that they have early

1061
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: on the season. You'll get into app State stuff later on,

1062
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: but yeah, at the moment, they're looking real strong. I mean,

1063
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: the defensive performance against what I assumed it was going

1064
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: to be a pretty good Presdo State offense. I don't

1065
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 3: know how beat up there are or anything. I don't

1066
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: know the context around it in this moment, but that

1067
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 3: is that is quite the statement.

1068
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: The way that this thing is shaping up is very

1069
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: much unlvmboise out west. James Madison is scoring points in

1070
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: buckets right now.

1071
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 3: Alonza Barnett had six more touchdowns.

1072
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: He's got twelve touchdowns in two weeks, which is video

1073
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: game numbers. They won by putting up sixty three points.

1074
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: They had seventy a week ago. Jmu is probably in

1075
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: that conversation. Tulane, who has a couple losses but may

1076
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: end up winning their conference, hammered USF by thirty five points.

1077
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: Both Army and Navy rolled.

1078
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: They're right there.

1079
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: They probably deserve to be in that conversation as well.

1080
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,959
Speaker 1: And I you lost the NC State they lost by seven.

1081
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: They acquitted themselves to think fairly well, but they lost

1082
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: that game. Memphis also won, but Memphis lost a week ago.

1083
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: It is starting to kind of work itself out. And

1084
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: I am very curious to see where this conversation is at,

1085
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: like two to three weeks from now, because I think

1086
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: you pointed out. The interesting part of now having a

1087
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: G five spot in this college football playoff is, unlike

1088
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: the way that some of these other playoff spots are decided,

1089
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: this almost has an old school college football field to it,

1090
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: where everyone's gonna play their games and then a bunch

1091
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: of people are going to vote on who they think

1092
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: is best.

1093
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta win your conference. Right.

1094
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: I believe somebody is going to bait, yeah, you gotta

1095
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: win your conference. But in effect, somebody is going to elect,

1096
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: is going to vote on who the national championship. Who

1097
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: gets an.

1098
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: Five national champion?

1099
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Level is and that's kind of neat.

1100
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 3: And it all goes through Holy Cross with you losing

1101
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: SLUKA and now Bobby Chesney at JMU.

1102
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: So more to come on that front, but a lot

1103
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: of excitement on the Group of five level, and this

1104
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: I think is paramount among them. Given where we've been

1105
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: over the last week or so, point number eight, please

1106
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: some high profile quarterback questions that I guess maybe sort

1107
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: of we answered this week. The two games that I

1108
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: wanted to throw your way are the Michigan game Michigan

1109
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: beat Minnesota twenty seven to twenty four. Yeah, and the

1110
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: Oklahoma game, Right, So the Michigan side, there's the whole

1111
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: question of Alex Orgi as a thrower through for thirty

1112
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 1: some odd yards a week ago.

1113
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: Is it a question ti through for.

1114
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: Eighty I'm gonna turn this over to you. I'm gonna

1115
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: turn this over to you. Yeah, for eighty six yards,

1116
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: a touchdown and a pick in this went over Minnesota.

1117
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: They also, by the way, nearly gave up a twenty

1118
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: one point lead and lost.

1119
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: Let me should have that was not an off side.

1120
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: It was not off sides on that on site kick. No,

1121
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: Minnesota got that kick and should have had a chance.

1122
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: They got dropped. Nesota got completely jobbed on that call.

1123
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,479
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they're necessarily going to drive down the field

1124
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: and win. They got jobbed on that call, and it

1125
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: was very strange, very strange. The other side of this

1126
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 3: is the Oklahoma game.

1127
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oklahoma basically built the whole plane out of Michael

1128
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: Hawkins junior, their true freshman quarterback, and their defense. To

1129
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: be fair, Yeah, beat Auburn on the road. So quarterback

1130
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: questions abound. If you want to take a Peyton Thorn

1131
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: left turn and talk about Auburn's quarterback questions, you can

1132
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: do so as well. But what is the state of

1133
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: the Michigan, the Oklahoma, maybe the Auburn quarterback situation right now.

1134
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: I don't know when Michigan's luck is going to run out.

1135
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: You could argue that it already did against Texas, but

1136
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: it's not a sustainable way to play against good teams.

1137
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: And I don't necessarily think Minnesota is that good team,

1138
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 3: but they almost came back like a good team should

1139
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: have now given Michigan's limitations on offense and what Minnesota

1140
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: was able to do against a beat up Michigan defense.

1141
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: Mind you, but we're starting to get into the territory

1142
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: where everybodys a little bit beat up throwing the ball.

1143
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: Darius Taylor ran hard had ten nice moments against his

1144
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 3: Michigan defense. They have no passing game. I don't know

1145
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 3: how you can do anything meaningful in the Big Ten

1146
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: without a passing game of some consequence. And like Ioways

1147
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: tried it and then they lose forty two to nothing

1148
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 3: in the Big Ten championship game. And so the Michigan

1149
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: bar is having a passing game of some consequence. It

1150
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 3: doesn't need to be a passing team. It doesn't need

1151
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 3: to have an explosive passing attack, but Michigan has nothing.

1152
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: Third and nine feels like a death sentence for Michigan.

1153
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: The way that moment, the way that the Fox booth

1154
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: was celebrating. Yeah, early on YEP three it was rainy.

1155
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: It's still awful.

1156
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: A three yard pop pass, you know, kind of padding

1157
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: Michigan fans padding Alex Orgie on the head for completing Yeah,

1158
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: what should be a routine throw kind of tells you

1159
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: everything you need to know. The expectations could not be

1160
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: lower for him as a passer again, ten of eighteen

1161
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: eighty six yards. It's it's very much based around the

1162
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: ground game and what they could do on defense.

1163
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 3: There was just some weird coaching in this game. Michigan

1164
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 3: was just snapping the ball super quickly while sitting on

1165
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 3: a lead late in this game. And then I was

1166
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: watching this game on mute for most of it, just

1167
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: because I can't listen to a lot of like bad

1168
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: football broadcasting, not that Sorry, let's be clear, I'm not

1169
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: calling the broadcasters bad. I'm calling the football bad that

1170
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 3: was being played. And just to hear people describing like, oh,

1171
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: that was a tough attempt from that Michigan side. There

1172
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: is something about Minnesota keeping two high safeties on defense

1173
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: in critical situations against this Michigan offense. And then when

1174
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 3: I flipped the sound on, all I heard was Joel

1175
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: Klatt losing his mind over it. I was like, Okay,

1176
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 3: I'm not going crazy. The other people are seeing what

1177
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 3: I'm seeing that Minnesota is not stacking the box against

1178
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 3: a team who can't pass in a crucial situation. So

1179
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: Minnesota with some weird, it seemed decisions, and Michigan seemed

1180
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 3: poorly coached down the stretch, and it's gonna be a

1181
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: different kind of back half of the season. It feels

1182
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 3: like for Michigan.

1183
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: You had locked up Auburn to beat Oklahoma.

1184
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: Oh man, I really really thought good things. Yeah, and

1185
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 3: a lot of people did. Auburn was a very popular pick. Yeah,

1186
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: freshman making his first start on the road in a

1187
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: tough place in Michael Hawkins yep, how he looked. Okay,

1188
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 3: Michael Hawkins, Yeah yeah, I mean all things considered. Being

1189
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: thrust into that moment, figured that he wouldn't be starting

1190
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 3: this year unless Jacksonarald got hurt. Jackson Arld didn't get hurt,

1191
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: at least to any consequence, and he's thrust into the

1192
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: starting role for Oklahoma football, which is a huge deal

1193
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: as a true freshman. Sure, and to come in and

1194
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: run like he did, to complete the passes he did

1195
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 3: somewhat downfield against an Auburn team that was looking to

1196
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: scratch and claw its way back to respectability and made plays.

1197
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: It looked like Auburn was positioning themselves nicely. Then Peyton

1198
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: Thorn threw a brutal interception.

1199
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: It's still a bad offense on both sides of it. This,

1200
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: I agree, if we're being clear. Combined these teams were

1201
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: six of twenty five on third downs. This was not

1202
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: any kind of offensive juggernaut of a game. But Oklahoma

1203
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: basically came back and won this game. Scored seventeen points

1204
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. They were able to force some

1205
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: mistakes on the Auburn side. More importantly, Michael Hawkins did

1206
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: turn the ball over at all. It's huge on the road,

1207
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: tough place to play. Not turn the ball over as

1208
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: big deal. So we'll see if he continues to mature

1209
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: as quarterback. It seems like it's going to be his now.

1210
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: They won the game, they've got to buy and then

1211
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: they've got Texas, and then after Texas, by the way

1212
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: still on the schedule, as you know, because we've talked

1213
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: about this brutal schedule that they've got. They also have

1214
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: a road game at Old Miss, a road game at Miszoo,

1215
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: come back home against Alabama, before closing out the year

1216
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: on the road against LSU. So he needs to grow

1217
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: up in a hurry. But this is going to start

1218
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: very good start. Next point number nine unranked, but maybe

1219
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: not for long du maybe not for real. We have Colorado, Colorado,

1220
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: my man, one of my locks.

1221
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like them as well going into this.

1222
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: AGA went to Orlando. They were impressive against UCF. They're

1223
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: now undefeated since losing to Nebraska a couple of weeks ago.

1224
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: The defense, as we've said here, is better. It is

1225
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: not a shutdown defense. It is maybe still a below

1226
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: average defense, but even that is a serious improvement for

1227
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: this team, which has no real running game to speak of,

1228
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: but does have Shador Sanders in a pretty good passing attack.

1229
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: They made plays on the ground tonight. They made some

1230
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: plays on the ground.

1231
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend, though, that this is an

1232
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: offense built.

1233
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: They're not led by it. It's not a balanced offense.

1234
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: Their strength is not the ground, but they did take

1235
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: a step forward tonight.

1236
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: So the combination of having a defense that I think

1237
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: is better of having one of, if not the best

1238
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in college football and Shador Okay having a pretty

1239
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: good receiver room and also having Travis Hunter is a

1240
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: pretty good combination that got one loss down through five

1241
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Colorado probably has a case to

1242
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 1: be made that they should be a ranked team.

1243
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 3: Probably who do they have this coming week? I'll pull

1244
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 3: it up there. There's that it matters in terms of

1245
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 3: their resume thus far.

1246
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: Right, And there are some other ones here too that

1247
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: I think we can also list off, should list off

1248
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: as part of this conversation. Rutgers. Rutgers is four and

1249
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: zero for the first time in over a decade. Kyle

1250
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: Manangai had one thirty two on the ground. They held

1251
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: down Washington's offenses, which I think is pretty good offense

1252
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: for most of the game.

1253
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: Jonah Coleman ran well he did. I think the big

1254
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: thing was third downs, right, Rutgers got off the field.

1255
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: That was the big deal for and like they just

1256
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 3: they made fewer mistakes. Did watch they have a bunch

1257
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 3: of penalties?

1258
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1259
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 1: This one, I mean it was it was not their

1260
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: best showing for sure.

1261
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: Right by the way.

1262
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: Colorado's on by next week, but then they've got k

1263
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: State the weekend's.

1264
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: Great week to have a bye, great week.

1265
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: To have a bye. Rutgers is another one, maybe going

1266
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: to be ranked. How about Indiana and Duke combined ten

1267
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: and oh Dan.

1268
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: Duke had to come back in a pretty fierce way.

1269
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: To beat their rival UNC twenty one twenty. They are

1270
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: five and oh for the first time since nineteen ninety four. Meanwhile,

1271
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: Indiana beat Maryland by fourteen. They are five and oh

1272
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: for the first time since nineteen sixty seven. Yeah, it's

1273
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: been a minute, It's been a minute.

1274
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 3: They the war machine, the mech warrior that is Indiana football.

1275
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 3: Not a great day for Curtis Rourke initially, but continued

1276
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: to make plays. Maryland was not able to do much

1277
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 3: once they were unable to capitalize on short fields and turnovers. Right,

1278
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: So this was a really strong effort from Indiana in

1279
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 3: that they didn't play all that well for a chunk

1280
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 3: of this game and then continued at it and won

1281
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 3: a winnable and what should have been a winnable game

1282
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: for them. And I don't know if you noticed the

1283
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 3: ref setting just an abdominal abominable screen on a long

1284
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 3: Roman Henvy touchdown run. But otherwise, you know, I think

1285
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 3: Indiana is probably vulnerable on defense to the right teams.

1286
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 3: But like it's year one of Kurtz Signetti, like they're

1287
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: gonna they're not a finished product, and they're winning the

1288
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 3: winnable games and what you say, five to zero for

1289
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 3: the first time since the Spanish American War or something

1290
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 3: like that.

1291
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels that way.

1292
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: It's great.

1293
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: Speaking of abominable. Another team that I want to throw

1294
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: out here as one to keep your eye on. Not ranked,

1295
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: but if they continue things, they could be What about smu.

1296
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 3: Oh, just laid the lumber on Florida State. Yes, what

1297
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 3: does that mean in.

1298
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four, Well, it doesn't mean as as much

1299
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: as it used to. But being four and one in

1300
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: a power conference now is meaningful. And they look really

1301
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: good in this game. Now, a lot of teams look

1302
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: good against Florida State. It's not necessarily an accomplishment, but

1303
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: to put up forty two points to be solid, Kevin

1304
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: Jennings looked real solid throwing in the football. Defensively, do

1305
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: what they did to Florida State. They forced a bunch turnover.

1306
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: DJU had three picks in this game. Again, that's not

1307
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: necessarily a unique thing in the year Lord twenty twenty four. However,

1308
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: twelve of thirty throwing the football, two touchdowns, three picks

1309
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: for DJU is certainly not a good look. Florida State's

1310
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: one and four, but SMU being four and one is

1311
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: certainly something to keep your eye on, especially given the

1312
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: fact that you look at the schedule and it's not bad.

1313
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: Undefeated in Power Conference play, undefeated in Power Conference play.

1314
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: There on the road next week against Louisville, which, depending

1315
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: on the way polls break fun could actually end up

1316
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:05,479
Speaker 1: being the only matchup between ranked opponents in Week six.

1317
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: But after that, it's Stanford, It's Duke, It's pitt It's

1318
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: Boston College, it's Virginia, it's cow It's a lot of teams.

1319
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: Frankly that I don't know if we're all that confident

1320
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: and any of them at this point. So suddenly keep

1321
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: your eye on since maybe that quarterback change, it seems

1322
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: as if they have turned over a new leaf here

1323
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: and have definitely played more meaningful for.

1324
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 3: And your confidence maybe justified. It took a hit to

1325
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 3: start out the year, but if you were playing the

1326
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 3: long game tie, maybe SMU has something.

1327
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: Here final three points. Yeah, you wanted to talk about

1328
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: USC coming back.

1329
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a real ugly start. There were like

1330
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 3: muffed punts. It was an interception Wisconsin randomly connected on

1331
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 3: like a sixty three yard touchdown pass, which, like I

1332
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 3: rewound on YouTube TV to make sure I was awake

1333
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 3: and just fully paying attention to reality. It all went

1334
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 3: away for Wisconsin in the second half and USC, by

1335
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 3: the way, just again a USC side by here. Jacoby

1336
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 3: Lane's real good. Oh Yeahjkoby Lane has earned such a

1337
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 3: really nice go to receiver for the Trojan and catches.

1338
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: For one oh five and two touchdowns in this game.

1339
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: In a letdown spot for USC after the Michigan game,

1340
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: they just looked sloppy early on. I mentioned, you know

1341
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: the interception Familler Moss the muff not Yeah, it was

1342
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 3: a It was a weird like Zachariah Branch I think

1343
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 3: was the guy excuse me if I got it wrong,

1344
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 3: but he thought he touched it, but he didn't touch it,

1345
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: and then he chased it, and another guy chased it

1346
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: and knocked it, and Wisconsin recovered it and had a

1347
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: short field, it was twenty one ten Wisconsin. The final

1348
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: score was thirty eight to twenty one. I believe USC

1349
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 3: had a pick six to close things out. A really

1350
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: impressive win for USC, A game maybe they don't win,

1351
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 3: you know, last couple of seasons, but the defense tightened

1352
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 3: up in a huge way against Braydon Locke in Wisconsin,

1353
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 3: and I think firmly established themselves as a dangerous Big

1354
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 3: ten team. Whatever that means in this moment, I don't know,

1355
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 3: but a really impressive win.

1356
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I would say among other dangerous Big ten teams,

1357
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: some of which we didn't get to here, Ohio State

1358
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: one by thirty one. They did this against Michigan State.

1359
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: Now they looked really, really solid. It shouldn't really surprise

1360
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: anybody that they did two touchdowns for Jeremiah Smith, one

1361
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: on the ground, a nice one handed catch on the

1362
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: right side of the end zone earlier in the game. Yeah,

1363
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: so he obviously is as good as advertised. Eight and

1364
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: Childs wasn't bad in this game. It was just they

1365
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: were overmatched by Oh yeah, that's much much better. Of course.

1366
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: The other team that I wanted to call out here

1367
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: place I could very quickly. Nebraska had a really rough

1368
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: go of things. Oh man, I was so happy I

1369
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: did not watch this first half.

1370
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: I was monitoring, and I was like, you know what,

1371
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 3: if there's something crazy that happens, I can find the channel.

1372
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: I don't need to do this to my day right now.

1373
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: If you went heavy on Nebraska minus ten on the

1374
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: road at Purdue and you watched that first half, which

1375
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: finished at zero apiece, you were probably ripping your hair out. Nebraska,

1376
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: though even after three quarters it was only seven to three.

1377
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: It was a tight game, but they finally started to

1378
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: assert themselves a little bit more. They were well, yeah,

1379
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: twenty one points in the fourth quarter, ended up winning

1380
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: going away twenty eight to ten. So nice win for them.

1381
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: This is not me making any kind of statements like

1382
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: Nebraska could or should be ranked or is going to

1383
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: be playing for anything of real merit. But to have

1384
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: four wins at this point I think, to feel good

1385
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: about where they're at. To just go on the road

1386
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: as a ten point favor to cover the point spread

1387
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: in its own right, I think is meaningful with the

1388
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: true freshman quarterback, so good on them.

1389
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 6: Good.

1390
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 3: I agree.

1391
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: The other two and final points here that we want

1392
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: to make before we get to your tweets and your

1393
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: messages and our dood alerts. There is the question of

1394
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: Cam Rising Dan. We're going to make this a weekly segment. Now,

1395
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: where is Cam rising, cam on Rising? Where is he er?

1396
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: Where is he? He's a healing tie, he's always healing.

1397
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 3: He's got the massage gun, he's got an ice pack,

1398
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: he's got a splint somewhere. I hope he's okay. He's

1399
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 3: fun to watch. I hope he plays soon.

1400
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: Is he gonna play soon?

1401
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 3: Because yeah, I hope he does.

1402
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: This year has already notes of last year where it

1403
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, he's gonna be ready to go, don't worry,

1404
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: don't worry. Right the guys in Utah radio is talking

1405
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: him up. He's healthy, he's gonna be good, he's working,

1406
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: he's got pads on. Now. Never hear hide nor hair

1407
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: from this guy.

1408
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 3: No, it was Isaac Wilson again. Last I checked, it

1409
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: was thirteen to three. This is going to be great

1410
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 3: for people listening in a day or two these live

1411
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: updates for Utah Arizona. But nonetheless, TI I like to

1412
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 3: be informed sixteen to ten Arizona in the fourth quarter

1413
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:43,959
Speaker 3: right now.

1414
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: Isaac Wilson's doing okay, but yuck on the whole here.

1415
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: Hope Cam Rising can get healthy, but where in the

1416
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: world is he still hurt? Allegedly? And the final thing

1417
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to call out here was just send a

1418
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 1: shit out, send our thoughts to people who were affected

1419
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: by this storm.

1420
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 3: This hurricane, oh man, Helene.

1421
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: Awful awful almost stuff, man, Yeah, awful awful stuff. There

1422
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 1: were a couple FCS games that were canceled. The only

1423
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: game of consequence for us in what we cover that

1424
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 1: was affected was the Liberty app State game, which was

1425
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: because boone, North Carolina was underwater.

1426
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 3: Underwater. It's awful.

1427
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: It's catastrophic flooding. So I feel bad for everybody down there.

1428
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: I know a lot of folks that listen in this

1429
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: We have a lot of folks that listen in that

1430
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: part of the country. So we hope if you were affected,

1431
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: that you're okay, that none of your belongings took on

1432
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: too much damage, that everybody that you know and love

1433
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: is safe. That's the scariest stuff. And you hate to

1434
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: see those pictures. Obviously, when you see genuinely terrible stuff

1435
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: like this, not the right move to play the football game.

1436
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: You can't play the football game. I think everybody was

1437
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: in agreement there. The kicker, though, is that they're not

1438
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: going to reschedule it. No, they're not going to reschedule it,

1439
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: which is a bummer from a football star standpoint, because

1440
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: this is one of those G five games that that

1441
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: I that you that many people were most looking forward

1442
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: to seeing. Caden Psalter, Liberty's quarterback, responded to the news

1443
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: that the game was not being rescheduled by posting a

1444
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: duck emoji on Instagram implying that you know, app State

1445
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: was Duckenham yep. And then Quentin Cooley also posted an

1446
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: Instagram story saying that app State was scared to play him.

1447
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: So let me just say this, guys to.

1448
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 3: Their children, be careful what you say. They are kids.

1449
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: They are kids. Yeah, and sometimes little self awareness goes

1450
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: a long way. Sometimes it takes a while to learn

1451
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: that self awareness. So I agree, I want to be

1452
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: too mean. It is, though, extremely rich for anybody from

1453
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: Liberty to claim that an opponent is too scared to

1454
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: play them, because Liberty strength the schedule per the latest

1455
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: run of the ESPN FPI is one hundred and thirty fourth,

1456
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: which if you're a math major, if you pay attention

1457
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: to this sport at all. That is literally the easiest schedule. Yeah,

1458
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,879
Speaker 1: in college football, at least that state is scheduling Clemson

1459
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: mm hmm, Liberty scheduled like the Clem's barbecue and trimural team.

1460
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: That's what we're looking at with this schedule. Okay, So

1461
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: I get where they're coming from. I understand everybody's disappointed,

1462
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: but a little self awareness sometimes goes a long way.

1463
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: This has been a horrible thing. Sucks that the game's

1464
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: not going to be played. But if you're going to

1465
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: make statements like this about anybody being scared of anybody,

1466
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: look in the mirror a little bit. It's not their

1467
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: fault that their aidees didn't schedule anybody. I get it.

1468
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: I understand the disappointment. I'm disappointed too, but I saw

1469
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: that and it's like, you know what, I got to

1470
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: say something about it. Yeah, got to say something about it.

1471
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: Because this is a very easy schedule. They could go

1472
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: undefeated against this easily and they still might not be

1473
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: considered for that playoff spot. There's still a chance that

1474
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: they might not be considered for that playoff spot because

1475
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: of their strength of schedule. Great by me, that's all

1476
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 1: I have to say about that. So that does it

1477
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: for our top twelve? Dan Rubinstein, should we do a

1478
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: little bit of role play?

1479
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm ridy.

1480
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: Play with me. Who the hell am I?

1481
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 2: Who am I?

1482
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: We've done this for about three weeks running now, Dan,

1483
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: and we've put out a tweet later on in the

1484
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: night during the college football Saturday, and we said, I

1485
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: am a fan of blank and I feel blank mm hmm.

1486
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: We tried this a couple of weeks ago where we

1487
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: put ourselves in the shoes of Harver ballers, and we decided,

1488
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: why don't we just get it straight from the horse's mouth.

1489
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: What did we get?

1490
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: Uh ohen Bama shock, never in my wildest dreams. Mike Michigan,

1491
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 3: just happy to win. Been there, Mike, been there, Mike Yeah,

1492
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 3: hokey pokey. I'm a Hockey's fan feeling robbed, ole miss dejected.

1493
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 3: USF fan, feeling like a USF fan because we know

1494
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 3: nothing else, Notre Dame fan feeling ready for cheeseburger week.

1495
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: Bam a fan feeling cautiously optimistic. Oklahoma fan elated. I

1496
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 3: get that, Jeremiah Smith fan, and I'm feeling Jeremiah Smith.

1497
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 3: How could you not. Yeah, missoo better than last week.

1498
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: Good answer, good answer.

1499
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 3: College football fan feeling tipsy. Clemson fan feeling back because

1500
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 3: you beat Stanford comfortably. I appreciate that beating Stanford is

1501
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 3: not always the easiest thing, no matter the year, no

1502
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 3: matter the team. Notre Dame, happy, Navy, ecstatic timee Mississippi

1503
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 3: State kind of made Texas uncomfortable. Pretty good is how

1504
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 3: this person feels. Kentucky fan feeling great, Texas, bored Washington,

1505
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 3: all of the things. Ucla fans. I'm a Ucla fan

1506
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 3: feeling like the Bruins are doomed to failure. They're currently

1507
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 3: losing twenty eight to ten. Have the ball around midfield,

1508
01:13:55,320 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 3: We'll see what HAPPENSSUCF fan like hiring Ted Roof was

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Speaker 3: program ruined.

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Speaker 1: Man, I told them, I told you guys at the

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01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: start of the year, and you know, I read, I read.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people do great work on the previews. Putting

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01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: these previews together is thankless work, and it's a near impossibility.

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01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: It's hard to do. Yeah, but there is part of

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: that process inherently where you feel the need to say

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01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: nice things about the hire. Right, You're not trying to

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01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: paint doom and gloom from the jump. Sure, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what I would do if I were putting preview publications together.

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: So you find a lot of nice things being said

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01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: about Ted Ruth. I happened to take the opposite approach.

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: The second I saw that, I was like, Oh, this

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01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: is not good.

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Speaker 3: You've been hurt before.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I've been hurt before. And I continue to see

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: other programs get hurt by this guy. He's not a

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01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: good coach. He's not a good coach. There is some

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01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: bit of his resume that would indicate that maybe he

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01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: can coach up a rushing defense, some bit even that's

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01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: a stretch. Not a good defensive coordinator. They never should

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01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: have hired them. It should surprise nobody that UCS defense

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01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: kind of stinks.

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Speaker 3: Agree.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you to one and all for sending

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Speaker 1: just because Old mis loss, but because of the Bama

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01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: win and the Georgia loss, and maybe you feel differently

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Speaker 1: about some of the teams in the top ten base

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Speaker 1: and the performances you saw. I think we're going to

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01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: see some shifting this week. So we'll release that in

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Speaker 1: Shay is back from Parts Unknown. He outdid himself uh

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Speaker 1: oh with this version of the reverbs. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to set it up anymore. Just have a listen. This

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 5: It's on Kapastan the Mean Green fan from Denton County, Texas.

1560
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,799
Speaker 5: And you'll be saying wow every time Chandler Moore drops

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01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 5: back to pass.

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01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: Chan.

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Speaker 5: Wow. You'll be saying wow every time Kl's gonna spend

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Speaker 5: one point two million on the wrong chandler. Anyways, they're

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Speaker 5: throwing their money.

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Speaker 6: Away, dan Ki, Who is Steve from New York City?

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is Curtis and omahawk.

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01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: This is David your longtime listening Miami Hurricane stands and

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01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: the work is Doohn treto doesn't matter if you live

1570
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: by an inch from by a mile.

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01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 2: Winning is winning.

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Speaker 6: Are you sitting me right now?

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01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: You cannot tell me with one hundred percent certainty that

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01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: fell did not catch that ball.

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01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 5: You know, it's been a rough decade when beating and

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 5: unranked Washington feels like you just won the Rose Bowl.

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01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, but go nights baby.

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01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 6: Rutgers is four and oh we are unstoppable. We are inevitable.

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01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 6: Are you raw? Baby?

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01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 3: Oh?

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01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 6: Miss the field goal?

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01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 5: It feels okay to see Michigan win a clunker, but

1583
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 5: it feels bad at the same time that it seems

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01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 5: like Michigan is only capable of clunking.

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01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 7: In the Nebraska Purdue game, it was zero to zero,

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01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 7: six forty three left in the third quarter and had

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 7: a combined total two hundred and.

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01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 4: Fifty nine penalty yards.

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01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 5: Peacock should have paid me to watch that damn game.

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01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: So big red.

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01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 6: Look.

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Speaker 3: We all know that produced thanks at football, but as

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01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 3: a Timberwall season ticket holder, I'm really fascinated with this

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01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 3: cat trades.

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Speaker 7: I wonder if you guys want to talk a little

1596
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 7: bit more about that finish that Taylor game.

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01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, y'all think GJ.

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 5: Kinning would look good in.

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01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 2: Grin and gold fire, Dave Miranda, I think I may

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01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 2: need to go see my doctor because I could have

1601
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: swore we fired Clay Helton three years ago.

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01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 6: Is you got football.

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01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: Good?

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01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 6: I just see from Atlanta, Georgia calling about five in Indiana,

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01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 6: So we got the boys coach Seguins again.

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01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 7: I just want to know what happens when you cross

1607
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 7: a win your clunkers with a rivalry game. And the

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01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 7: answer is you're going to have to talk to your

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01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 7: kids about a five and zero duke football team. Baby,

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01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,959
Speaker 7: let's go Devils go to Hell Carolina.

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01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 2: How about you have a dude alert to Greg Byrn

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01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 2: for hiring Kaylin de boor over like doorbell listen. I

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01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 2: got laid off this week and somehow that was less

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01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: painful and watching Peyton Thorne finally have.

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01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:49,440
Speaker 3: A dude alert.

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01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: Kind of game only to throw a game's the Olympic

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01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: six in the final minutes. I guess you don't have

1618
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: to have an offense if you leave the country in.

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01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 5: Turnovers and win the game on a pick six.

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01:18:58,360 --> 01:18:59,839
Speaker 3: Boomer Center just got.

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01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: Back from watching my horns get their first as you

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01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: he wins the most importantly survive their first, savage disgusting

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01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: horns down checking in from Orlando.

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01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 3: The hurricane didn't even hit.

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 6: Orlando, but yet the group was leaking worse than it

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Speaker 6: was before.

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Speaker 1: Hello, I am calling from the pass where Alabama is

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01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: up three touchdowns on.

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Speaker 6: The number two team in the nation. I am sure

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Speaker 6: this will not age poorly.

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01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 4: Hey, it is hurting hookies again. You asked for someone

1632
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 4: to call about the Alabama game, so just give you

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01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 4: one of each so you can cut in whichever one

1634
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 4: makes sense. Oh my god, I can't believe Alabama blue

1635
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 4: that huge lead or great job of Alabama holding on

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01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 4: even when Jordia came thundering back.

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01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 5: B Why you feels like one of those teams this

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01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 5: year where they might be nine to zero and we're

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01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 5: also wondering are we good? Vampire or KuK's just glisten

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01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 5: in the sunlight.

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01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 6: But a hold on tight.

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01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: Spider Monkey beautiful, beautiful. Well, hey, Yu Khan did win

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01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: forty seven to three, so good on the knocked off Buffalo. Yeah,

1644
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: and apologies to Arvor Baller who lost his job. I

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01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: hope he's doing a Yeah.

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01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 3: Let's wall bounce back, wall bounce back.

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01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 1: After week five without further ado, Dan Shay tipped it

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01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: off a little bit there with doodle alerts.

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01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 3: I'm ready.

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01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: We have a number of names here. Let's go through

1651
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: the best performances week five. Who do you got for

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01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: me tonight?

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01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 3: I have you listing the edge for Boston College and

1654
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:32,799
Speaker 3: there went over Western Kentucky. I believe Donovan as Aku

1655
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 3: okay twelve tackles, nine solo, three sacks, forts fumble to

1656
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 3: set up the Eagles go ahead score. Avery Johnson in

1657
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 3: his rebound game, Demon Demon Clayborne, the running back for

1658
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 3: wake Forest who seems like an absolute warrior coming back

1659
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 3: after injury. Ryan Williams obviously Alabama, Abdul Carter everywhere for

1660
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 3: Penn State and harassing Illinois and Luke Altmeyer. Chandler Morris,

1661
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 3: as the caller mentioned, went for like five hundred yards.

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01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 3: I want to say in a drubbing North Texas rubbing

1663
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 3: over Tulsa star Thomas led the way for Duke and

1664
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 3: their comeback win over North Carolina. North Carolina great name

1665
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: your Heela Monster. Kyle Manong guy for Rutgers paced that win.

1666
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 3: They didn't run all over Washington, but they did it.

1667
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 3: Really just it was a disciplined job of winning football.

1668
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 3: Jonah Coleman on the other side of the ball and

1669
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 3: a losing effort was very good. I mentioned Jacobe Lane.

1670
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 3: And by the way, how about Roy Williams, the old

1671
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 3: basketball coach coaching two of the most disappointing Power Conference

1672
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:33,480
Speaker 3: football schools in Kansas and North Carolina. I just recognized

1673
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 3: the connection we see there, No, no, I mean Kansas

1674
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 3: is just not having a good year. They I think

1675
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 3: Josh Hoover threw all over Kansas for TCU, and North

1676
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 3: Carolina blew their lead against Duke in a rivalry game.

1677
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: So I just the connective tissue of two of the

1678
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 3: most disappointing teams was Roy Williams. That's it. Those are

1679
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 3: my dudes.

1680
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,839
Speaker 1: Let's also give a big shout out to Ralph Rucker,

1681
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: the fourth Okay starting quarterback for the Nell Bison who

1682
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: knocked off the Lehigh Mountain Hawks this week. Thirty eight,

1683
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: two thirty five went to overtime. By the way, as

1684
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, we care about these things and good for him. Alrighty,

1685
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: that does it. Boys and girls, Thank you so much

1686
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: for your ongoing support. Here a little bit longer than usual,

1687
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: but we had a lot to talk about. We did,

1688
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: if only because that Alabama Georgia game to start was incredible, incredible.

1689
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed this week of college football as

1690
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: much as we did. Don't forget. We will be back

1691
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. We will talk through all that we missed,

1692
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: things that we have been stewing over. If you're a

1693
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: verballer atverballers dot com, we will also make a post

1694
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: to get some of your feedback and build in one

1695
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: of those little mini games as we've been doing as

1696
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 1: part of our Tuesday episode. So thank you one, Thank

1697
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: you all. We appreciate your support. If you've been watching

1698
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: the staying up late with us here this evening as well,

1699
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: let's all get some rest. We'll come back stronger tomorrow.

1700
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: We'll do it all over again this week. Sound good,

1701
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: Dan Man wait love it for that guy over there,

1702
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,759
Speaker 1: Dan Rubenstein, for myself, Hilding a Brand. Thank you again

1703
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: for downloading, for listening, for supporting, for being with us

1704
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: here through college football Week five. We will talk to

1705
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: y'all soon.

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Speaker 3: Stay sifted peace,