1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, You're in 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: the right place. Fires Upfield into the end time and 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: it's cut to Lonny what cuts down and he's gonna 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: fire up Field's broken up? Tip it intercepted by the Colts. 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: This is the Official Colts Podcast, giving you an updated 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: look at what's new with the Horseshoes. 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Colds, Tabitt intercepting two seconds slip and the Cults are 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: gonna win in the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: Let's get the podcast started. Welcome into the Official Colts Podcast, 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: brought to you by our friends at WIN Las Vegas. 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: JJ Stankobitz. I'm Jeffrey Gorman, no lera Overton in today, 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: but we do have a lot to get over with. Hey, 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about some fun stuff at the end 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: of the show. I found out recently about our man 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: right here, JJ Stankowitz, and a couple of off the 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: field things that he likes to you know, have in 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: his back pocket and hopefully surprise some of you listeners. 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: But here we go. We gotta start. H I don't 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: want to back track. We never do that very much 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 2: on these Tuesday podcasts, but it was pretty one sided 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: the other day, just a quick once over the turnovers killed. 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: I mean the turnovers killed you playing catch up. That 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: forces a different type of game play and going in 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: when you're looking for points in a hurry. 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you go back and you look at you know, 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: how that game played out, and it really was the 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: four turnovers, you know, the one where after JT had 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: that big forty yard gain on the kind of mesh 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: rub route, Garner goes and throws the interception right after that. 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: You know, it kind of took a lot of wind 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: out of the sales. Just it was fourteen to three 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: at that point, you're thinking, maybe you get down there, 33 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: you get some points before halftime. And really the difference 34 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: was the Jaguars scored seventeen points off turnovers. The Jaguars 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: won the game by seventeen points. I think that's kind 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: of the start and end of it. I did think 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: this was interesting. I was listening to Colts Round Table 38 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: Live here on the Colts Audio Network driving in today 39 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: and Joe Wright's brought up a really good point. The 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: Colts have turned the ball over eight times this year. 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Seven of those have come against the Jaguars. 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: Really, okay, so it's mused to have been a turnover 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: machine against in two games. 44 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: For whatever reason. But I think the reason is the 45 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Colts haven't been able to get the run game going 46 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. Colts are done playing the Jags this year, 47 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: and now we'll kind of see, Okay, was that a blip? 48 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Did the Jaguars just kind of have the Colts number 49 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: this year both at Lucas Oil Stadium and at EverBank Field? 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: And is this offense going to get back to being 51 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: that efficient, taking care of the ball, not turning it 52 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: over type of offense that we've come to know over 53 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. 54 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew's starting for the very near future as far 55 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: as you know. We can tell because Anthony Richardson is, 56 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: you know, is one of the reasons that Gardner is 57 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: getting this kind of playing time. And I love when 58 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: Gardner comes in relief starting Anthony Richardson with a different 59 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: skill set and a different game plan. Gardner comes in 60 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: shakes things up a little bit because it's easy. But 61 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: Gardner as a starting quarterback right now limited in his 62 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: skills to Anthony Richardson as far as footwork and things 63 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: go like that. So just kind of close that window 64 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: a little bit. For defensive coordinators, when you're facing Richardson, 65 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: it's one thing. When you're facing Gardener it's another. 66 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Here's the thing that I've kind of come to learn 67 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: about this team and specifically specifically Anthony Richardson, which we 68 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: can get into in a little bit, is that he 69 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: really is a guy who elevates the rest of the team. 70 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Like you see that with Anthony Richardson. Even in four 71 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: games he's only completed two of them. You see that 72 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: ability in him, and that's really exciting for what the 73 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: future looks like here in Indianapolis, because specifically with the 74 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: run game, you can't kind of collapse everything into the 75 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: middle and try to just sell out to stop Zach 76 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: Mosster Jonathan Taylor, because if you do that, here comes 77 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Anthony around the edge. And also, by the way, if 78 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: you put all those guys in the box, Anthony can 79 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: throw it deep and take advantage of it. Or if 80 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: you're playing man behind these plays, Anthony can just take 81 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: off and run and if your dbs have their backs 82 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, they're not seeing him until he's ten 83 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: yards downfield. So he really does elevate everyone else field 84 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: in a way that I think as you're thinking about 85 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: the next five ten years of what this offense can 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: look like is very exciting. 87 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: Obviously that starts and ends with Anthony Richardson need to 88 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: get into us some of the comments that the owner 89 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: said recently about his health and where we're at. A 90 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: lot of Colts fans know and they've been reading on 91 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: social media and everything. Well, he have a chance to 92 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: come back in a month, will it be six weeks? 93 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: Who knows? Well? Jimmers spoke with Stephen Holder from ESPN 94 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: and said, the most likelihood is he's probably going to 95 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: be done for the year. I mean, it's not definite, 96 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: but probably misses this year, and we're going to have 97 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: to contend with that factor. There's debate going but it's 98 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: probably going to lead towards surgery in the next week 99 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: or so. Now keep in mind this was yesterday when 100 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: the owner spoke with Older, so we're in about a 101 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: week watch now as far as surgery goes, and it's 102 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: still up in the air. He finished with saying, we're 103 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: just trying to figure out exactly how, when and what 104 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: we want to do. And the most important part of 105 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: what he said is this these last few words and 106 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: what Anthony wants to do, because you have to understand surgery, 107 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: no surgery. Some of the players in the in the 108 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: past years in the NFL have had this surgery come 109 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: out on the other side. Others said, no, we're just 110 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: gonna let this thing healed by itself. So it's kind 111 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: of a you know, a juggling act right now of 112 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: what the young man wants to do and his team 113 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: around him saying, hey, is it going to be surgery? 114 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: But Ursa did put you know, sort of point towards Hey, 115 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: this surgery is going to happen in the next week, 116 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: and if that's the case, he's done for the year. JJ, 117 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: we want a development out of the first year out 118 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: of this, but find the good in that. If he 119 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: could find the good in that season ending potential surgery 120 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: for Anthony Richards. 121 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: Well, I think it would be that you just you 122 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: take care of the problem and next years he's ready 123 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: to go. 124 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: You know it. 125 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: It would suck if this is the way that it goes. 126 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: And again the thing in here, nothing's definitive on it yet. 127 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: We'll kind of hear from you know, Shane Steichen as 128 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: the week goes on, you know, to see if there 129 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: is a definitive all right, this is the path forward. 130 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: But kind of like I was saying, though, I think 131 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: we've seen a pretty good amount from Anthony that gives 132 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: you hope for what he can be. And his ability 133 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: to read a defense, to diagnose the defense, I think 134 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: was ahead of where a lot of people thought it 135 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: would be. His ability to just kind of sit in 136 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: the pocket not take sacks. If he does take a sack, 137 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't lose a lot of yards. Maybe ahead of 138 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: where people thought he would be. And I'm saying people 139 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: on the outside and people here I think always kind 140 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: of knew what he could be. I think you can 141 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: still leave this year encouraged by what Anthony has put 142 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: on tape. Whether he comes back or doesn't come back, 143 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: we'll kind of see on that. Overall, though, I think 144 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: the foundation for him, for the reason why the Colts 145 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: drafted him, which is the next five ten years of 146 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: this franchise, is pretty solid. 147 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: Fortunate the concussion, the lower body injury now the shoulder 148 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 2: and stuff like that through just a handful of games 149 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 2: like that. That's I don't want to cause for red flag. 150 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but this young man we've talked 151 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: about it before. Hasn't played a bunch of big, big, 152 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: big time football in his life, meaning you know, thirteen 153 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: games down in Florida and then just a spattering of 154 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: NFL starts right there. For the future going forward, protecting yourself, 155 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: I want to go through the list of gamuts that 156 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: the experts are talking about keeping quarterbacks on the field. 157 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: His skill set, we talked about it earlier. You know, 158 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: Anthony can go around the outside even when he got 159 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: a stack backfield and stuff like that at two hundred 160 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: and forty plus pounds JJ. And for the rest of 161 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: his career, is he gonna have to change the way 162 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: that he plays the game a little bit? 163 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: He yeah. I mean that's probably a better discussion for 164 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, next year, once he gets healthy and once 165 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, or you know, when he if he were 166 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: able to come back this year again, we'll kind of see. 167 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: That's probably a better discussion for later on. Right now, 168 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: it's probably more about, like, hey, let's get this kid healthy, 169 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: let's figure out what the course of action is, what 170 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: he wants to do, and kind of go from there. 171 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: Well, he does have that skill set we talked about, 172 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: and it's tough not to talk about him running to 173 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: the football because he wants to do it so well, 174 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: so lost to the Jaguar. We call it a learning experience, 175 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: lessons to take going forward from that. Joe Wright said 176 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: it best you dug that little nugget up. Seven turnovers 177 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: against the Jaguars in two games, eight total on the year. 178 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: So they're playing good against everybody else, but the division rivals. 179 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: Come on. Give me some takeaways from that, because they 180 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: obviously tough to run the football against that front. You 181 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: also tough to run the football when you're playing catch up. 182 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think the worry thing. The thing 183 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: here that the Cults are going to need to figure 184 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: out is the NFL is a copycat league, right, so 185 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: teams might see, Okay, the Jaguars are playing, they're playing 186 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: heavy personnel no matter who the Cults are running out there. 187 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: The Colts had spread it with four wide, Jaguars would 188 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: still be in their base personnel with all those guys 189 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: packed up on the D line, four DB's playing behind it. 190 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: That's going to be something the Coults are going to 191 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: have to figure out now with Gardner Minshew back there 192 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: at quarterback, who doesn't have that same skill set that 193 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: Anthony has to take it around the edge and run 194 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: it on zone reads and read options. So it's gonna 195 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: be interesting to kind of see what the Colts counter is. 196 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that I've come to learn 197 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: about Shane Steichen is that he's got some other solutions 198 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: in his toolkit. It's not just well, we do this 199 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: and we just have to do this better. I think 200 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: he can you can find some different schematic tweaks to 201 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: get around that that are going to be interesting to 202 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: kind of follow over these next couple of weeks, because, 203 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: by the way, the Browns great defense, the Saints great defense. 204 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: These next two games at home are going to be 205 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: big tests for the Colts offense against to me, two 206 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: of the top five to ten defenses in the NFL. 207 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: The Jaguars, by the way, they got they got a 208 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: real good defense, sure they do over there. They got 209 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: some dudes, they got a really good defensive coordinator and 210 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: Mike Caldwell. This is going to be kind of a 211 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: really interesting test to see where the Colts are before 212 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: you get into that November stretcher, you get on the 213 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: plane to Carolina and then you go face Bill Belichick. 214 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: This kind of four game strikech to me, is going 215 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: to be really telling for what the Colts can be 216 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: this year because you got some good defenses in there, 217 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: you got some good defensive coordinators. You're going to go 218 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: against the Shanstikeen's gonna have to match wits against and 219 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: we'll kind of see what those solutions might be. The 220 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: problem that the Colts had against Jacksonville kind of run 221 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: it back there, is that they weren't able to pass 222 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars out of that heavy personnel, those big bodies 223 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: getting them in there. What you know, Gardner Minshew Ryan 224 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: Kelly both said this after the game. They needed to 225 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: kind of hit some of those outside shots to get 226 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: the Jaguars to back off and say, all right, we 227 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: got to get that fifth defensive back on the field. 228 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: That then just lightens up the personnel and allows you 229 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: to have more opportunities to run the ball. This wasn't 230 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: a Shane Stikeen was unwilling to run the football type 231 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: of game against Jacksonville. It was a for the Colts 232 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: to establish the run, they had to establish the pass first. 233 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: That was what this game was going to dictate. And 234 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: when the Colts were not able to tablish the pass 235 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: early in the game, it led itself to a result 236 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: where Garda entry through the ball fifty five times because 237 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: they had to as the game went on and they 238 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: were trying to chase a fifteen eighteen whatever point deficit 239 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: that it was. 240 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: We've seen Minshew in his career go twenty two to 241 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: twenty five, those twenty four to twenty seven games, twenty 242 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: to twenty two type of stuff like that. That's where 243 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: this offense would be perfect. My point is shifting towards 244 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: a run game with Zach Moss and Jonathan Taylor. When 245 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: do these guys get going and know Anthony Richardson and 246 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: that thread on the outside, but with Minshew, can they 247 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: without playing catchup JJ, where can this running game take 248 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: him over in the course, like you said, facing great defenses, 249 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: but forcing teams to defend against the run. Because two 250 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: guys that are playing out of their mind this year 251 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: running the football right here, Zach Moss and Jonathan Taylor. 252 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying we know what Jonathan can bring well. And 253 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: the Colts offensive line too, is playing really well. I 254 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: think that's kind of the hard thing. Relly the best 255 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: center in the league, I mean by Pro Football Focus. Sure, 256 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: it's pretty clear. Zero sacks on the year. 257 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: If you look at if you look at his I 258 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: think it's his past block grade on Pro Football Focus, 259 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: which like take PFF grades for what you will. But 260 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: if you look at that, he's like ten points higher 261 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: than the next highest graded center in past block grade. 262 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: But as run blockers, you look at what he's doing. 263 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: Bernard Rayman, Quintin Nelson, Will Fries rock solid. Braden Smith's 264 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: been really good in the run game. Whenever you've had 265 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: a Blake Freeland or a Wesley French come in, it 266 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: hasn't really you haven't seen that step back that sometimes 267 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: you see when reserve offensive linemen come in. I think 268 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: I'm still pretty confident in this run game. As things stand. 269 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: The Colts haven't been able to run the ball against 270 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: the Jaguars this year. They've been able to run the 271 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: ball against every other team that they've played. 272 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: Why is that? Just give me give me it once A. 273 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: I think it's the good teams Baltimore defense. 274 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's the whatever it is about that 275 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars front seven has made it really difficult. The Colts 276 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: are not the only team that have struggled to run 277 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: the ball against that Jaguars front seven. The Bills had 278 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: I think twenty eight rush guards the week prior. It 279 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: is not and that, by the way, was a team 280 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: with a mobile quarterback in Josh Allen who can hit 281 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: that edge. So they just kind of do it to 282 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: everyone and they got to be top three defense. I mean, 283 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, run now, I mean before they played 284 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: up Yeah, to me that that's one of the best 285 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: run defenses in the NFL. They also got to onan 286 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: smoot back who's a big guy in the mid in 287 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: the interior. I don't want to say like, I don't 288 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: want to just chalk it up and just be like 289 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: a Colts aren't playing the Jaguars again, They'll be fine. 290 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: You need to see it. The Browns have to me 291 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: top two defense in the NFL right now, coming into 292 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: this game. What Jim Schwartz is doing has been incredible. 293 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett looks like a DPOY candidate. They're playing some 294 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: really interesting coverages on the back end. Rodney McCleod, by 295 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: the way, former cole playing really well over there. But 296 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: to me, right now, until I see this Colts run 297 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: game really struggle against the defense that isn't the Jaguars, 298 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 1: I might kind of chalk it up to it's just 299 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are a really good run defense and they 300 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: match up well against the Colts personnel. 301 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 2: Lead running back in Jonathan Taylor. Zach Mossy is what 302 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: he said, You know, grinder, we love him, but how 303 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: long until JT gets still he can start motoring and 304 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: get going and be like, you know, just fluid like 305 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: we know JT. 306 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no OTAs, no track camp yet, et cetera. Yeah, 307 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean think about it like that, Like he he 308 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: hasn't really practiced much. He's had five practices and two 309 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: games since coming off pup or since being activated a 310 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: return from pup. That's not a ton of time to 311 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: really get used to it. And I think something that 312 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: JT will get used to is kind of feeling out 313 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: the run scheme and feeling out his offensive line even 314 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: in years past, Like I think about the twenty twenty 315 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: one season where JT started off that year and it 316 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: wasn't like he came out of the gate just like 317 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, two hundred and fifty yard games. I'm gonna 318 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: pull up his stats here early in that season because 319 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: it took him a little while to kind of get going. 320 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: And I think you see this sometimes of the running 321 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: backs where you get new personnel on the offensive line 322 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: and you're sort of like, okay, like you got to 323 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: kind of figure it out. Jonathan Taylor's first two games 324 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty one season, he had thirty four carries, 325 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: four one hundred and seven yards. Yeah, and then he 326 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: went on and had eighteen hundred yards, led the lead 327 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: by five hundred. 328 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: Like it. 329 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: It took him a little while to kind of get 330 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: going that season, and that was with the full training camp. 331 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: But you're just kind of learning that new personnel, you know, 332 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: kind of learning now a new scheme with Tony Sperano 333 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: coming in, kind of running that I wouldn't be shocked 334 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: if you hit this, you know, week three, four five 335 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: stretch for JT coming back kind of going into the 336 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: by where you really start to see not only is 337 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: snapcount going up, but that yard's per carry average go up. 338 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Now you've kind of got a couple of games under 339 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: your belt. Maybe he gets one more game where he 340 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: gets around fifty percent of the snaps he was at 341 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,359 Speaker 1: I think it was forty something percent against the Jaguars, 342 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: and then you start to see, now, okay, he's getting 343 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: comfortable he's learning how to set up his blocks, how 344 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: to set up his blocks in this scheme, I should say, 345 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: and then you see him really start to take off. 346 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: And maybe even like if you're thinking about it, after 347 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: that bye week, that could be where you see Jonathan 348 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Taylor just go like like that where he's he's getting there, 349 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: he's getting there, he's getting there. You hit the buye 350 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: come back after that, and then. 351 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: It's just go time focus on the offense. 352 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: He could be, absolutely could be. But I mean Zach 353 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Moss is still here. 354 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. But yeah, I'll let me retract 355 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: that running game from here on out. With Minshew in 356 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: that quarterback position, is that the focus. 357 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think I think it kind of has to 358 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: be like ger Gardner's a really good quarterback when he 359 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: can kind of sit back there, pick a part of 360 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: defense with those shorter throws, with quick game, and then 361 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: not make those mistakes. I don't totally know what happened 362 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: on some of those mistakes against Jacksonville where he just 363 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: kind of sailed some throws. Those are uncharacteristic for Gardner Minshew. 364 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: You don't see him do that very often, and I 365 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: looked it up. He still has the sixth lowest career 366 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: interception percentage in NFL history among quarterbacks with a thousand attempts. 367 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: Like it's him at one point seven percent, with like 368 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert down there, and on that 369 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: list you got Aaron Rodgers, a couple of the guys, 370 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, Jacobe Brissett, guys who are really good backups 371 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: who can step in not turn the ball over. I 372 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: think Gardner's probably more in their camp with this. But 373 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: when he throws a three picks in a game, you're 374 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: sort of like, that's not who he is, and that's 375 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: not who he's proven to be over five years. So 376 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about that. But absolutely if you 377 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: get the run game going, that's where I think you're 378 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: going to start to see Gardner really thrive in this offense. 379 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: Like that, Gardner said afterwards, he was I was crap, 380 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah right, he took accountability for it. Guy, Yay, this 381 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: one's on me. Love. We know how that young man is, 382 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: how he goes in. But from here, you know, he'll say, hey, 383 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 2: that was a you know, that's kind of a dark 384 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: spot of what happened. We do have some bright spots 385 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: shift in the gears a little bit. Rookie Lake Freeland 386 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 2: starting to Yeah, I mean we've talked about this, Hey, 387 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: what do we do with the offensive line? What do 388 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: we do with you know, Brandon Smith, Hey, Bernard Ryman outside? 389 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: This kid's flip flopping and playing good football. 390 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: I want to dial it back to like the offseason 391 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: where Chris Baller didn't make any veteran additions to that 392 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: offensive line, and a lot of people were like, Okay, 393 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: first of all, why didn't you go get a starting 394 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: you know, right guard or a tackle to compete with 395 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: Bernard Ryman. Well, Bernard Bryman's playing like one of the 396 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: best left tackles in the NFL. I know, I know 397 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: he had the sack you know where Alan got him 398 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: around the edge, but that was the first sack he's 399 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: given up all year. If you turn on the tape, 400 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: he's looking really good. Will fries I talked about it 401 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: on the pod last week. Just like rock solid in there, 402 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: not a liability, not even just not even like he's 403 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: playing poorly. He is playing just solid football at right guard. 404 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: That's exactly what you need out of that spot. And 405 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: then the depth. Okay, so you didn't go out and 406 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: go get you know, a veteran swing tackle. Well, Blake 407 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: Frielan's playing like a pretty good swing tack right now 408 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: as a rookie. And when the Colts drafted him in 409 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: the fourth round, it was this guy's going to be 410 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: our swing tackle this year. He can play on the right, 411 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: he can play on the left. He did both a BYU. Yeah, 412 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: he doesn't have experience, but we trust him and so 413 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: far I think, you know, he had a couple pressures 414 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: he gave up to Aaron Donald, which will happen to anybody. 415 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: And outside of that, like I was talking about this 416 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: with Rick Van Terry on the bus come from the 417 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: airport in Jacksonville, and he's just like, Blake's playing really 418 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: good football. And for a backup to come in as 419 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: a rookie and to step in and start on both 420 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: the left and the right side now and to play 421 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: solid football where it's not like like you think about, 422 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: he's not like a turnstile out there. And sometimes when 423 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: you bring in these these backups, it's just like you're 424 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: they're getting picked on all the time and they can't 425 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: block anyone and it becomes a liability that is not 426 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: Blake Freeland at all for this offensive line. That wasn't 427 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: what Wesley French was when he stepped in for Ryan 428 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: Kelly for two games as well. That's a really good 429 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: sign that it's not just Tony Sprowno junior coaching up 430 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: those five guys, the five starters. He's getting good play 431 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: out of guys who are making their NFL debuts in 432 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: Blake Freeland and Wesley French. You should feel pretty good 433 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: about where that team is going that group of offensive linemen. 434 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask a greedy question. You said swing. He 435 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: swung from the left side to the right side, swing tackle. 436 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: Can he move inside? Be a true swing guy? 437 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: He never played that at BYU, But I mean, look, 438 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: the more you can do as a backup, you know, 439 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: maybe you trust him there, right I think that you know, 440 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: we haven't seen the Colts need a someone to step 441 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: in at guard this year. You know that would probably 442 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: be Josh Sills, who the Colts picked up on waivers 443 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: from the Eagles before the or on a Ruster cutdown day. 444 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: He'd probably be the guy to step in there. That 445 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: might be maybe thrown a little too much on Blake's plate, 446 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: but he's really athletic. He's got good feel for the position. 447 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: You know, maybe that's something in the future for him. 448 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: Offensive line is playing well. Way to go Ryman, Way 449 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: to go Blake Freeland another young youngster that's on this 450 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: roster playing well. Juju Branch got a tip the hat 451 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: first career interception. Hopefully now they come in buckets for 452 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: the young man. 453 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: He plays so physical out there, like you can just. 454 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: Bro he's a house though. I mean, I mean, I 455 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: want to say this before you go on with this thing. 456 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: He's so big. Yeahs as a corner like that, like 457 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: you sit to him next to in the locker room 458 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: or when he has pads on. It's ridiculous. I mean, 459 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 2: he's like it's almost seems like he's six ' six 460 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: playing it's he's not, but he looks so big with 461 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: the reach and everything that he has. What a huge 462 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: body he has playing in this position. 463 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: You know what's funny what watching him is like, you know, 464 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: cornerbacks when they you know, force into completion, they kind 465 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: of do like this like for our audio listeners, I'm 466 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: doing the thing or you like, you know, like a 467 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: safe sign for a baseball Yeah, like yeah, and Juju, 468 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: it's like I mean it's like unfurling like wings up 469 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: a jumbo jet. It's like, oh, man, Like it's almost 470 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: like like, I mean, I'm sure the guy's on the field. No, Like, man, 471 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: this guy's got really long arms. When you see that, 472 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: and it's like, good lord, this guy's got a ninety 473 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: inch wing span. Grab what it feels got the coordinator 474 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: on the side. I mean, no, you're right, it's a 475 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: huge span and everything. 476 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: But hopefully these things coming buckets and he's one of 477 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: those corners that we have here for about ten years. 478 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: It's just saying, hey, it's shutdown time, the hometown the 479 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: hometown kid playing well. 480 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: I think the thing with him that you know, you 481 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: kind of looked at when he was coming out was 482 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily have the speed that you sometimes see 483 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: top end corners have, but the colts felt like because 484 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: of his length that he could make up for it, 485 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: that he wasn't going to get beat over the top, 486 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: because it is kind of a different calculus when you 487 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: had you might have a corner who's six' one with 488 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: a seventy five inch wing span, who's got really good speed, 489 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: but you can dump it over the top of that 490 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: guy because his arms can't reach there, and he doesn't 491 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: have the height with Juju. Maybe he's got four or 492 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: five speed I think is what he ran at the combine, 493 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: but he's got an eighty something inch wing span and 494 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: he's six three, So it's a different trajectory that ball's 495 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: got to be on because Juju can just use his 496 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: length to go knock that ball down. And then at 497 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: his physicality at the line, like he's able in press 498 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: coverage to get his hands on the receiver and to 499 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: re route that receiver pretty well. And he's still learning, 500 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: but I think you see what he's doing out there 501 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: on a play to play basis, and you feel really 502 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: good about his upside. You love getting that first pick 503 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,239 Speaker 1: out of the way and just you know, okay, hey, 504 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: now you're you know, you're not pressing for that as 505 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: a rookie. Go out there and keep doing it, keep 506 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: playing the way you are. And by the way, in 507 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: the run game he sticks his nose in there. It's 508 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: seven tackles. The other day, there is one where Etn 509 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: I think it was Etn got on the outside and 510 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: some corners he probably would have beaten, and Juju just 511 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: grabbed him, dropped him the ground. Like it was nothing. 512 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: I love, really cool to see. 513 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: You got to keep that going offensive side of the ball. 514 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 2: We talked about Blake Blake Friedland rather Juju having a 515 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: great one. Josh Dollins just continuously, continuously, continuously being a 516 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: best friend for the quarterback here in Indianapolis. And whether 517 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 2: it's Anthony Richardson or Minshew, this young man saying, hey, 518 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: I need to be on the field. 519 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with you know, he fits kind of that. 520 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: If you're going to go a lot of quicker throws 521 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: like Gardner is going to do, Josh Downs is going 522 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: to get himself open, and he's going to get himself 523 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: open quickly within his routes on time, a guy who 524 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, look, depending on how long Gardner starts, I 525 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if he led the Colts in receptions 526 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 1: this year just because he's that guy who I mean. 527 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: We saw it in training camp. Gardener was just peppering 528 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: him with throws over and over and over again, and 529 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: we asked Gardner, hey are you throwing it down so much? 530 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: He's like, because he's open and Downs is going to 531 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: keep getting open. The Colts are going to keep finding 532 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: ways to use him in this offense. And again, I 533 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't be totally shocked if he led this team interceptions. 534 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 1: What's he at right now? 535 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 2: Fantasy players? Are you listening? 536 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: Well, look, I think I think a lot a lot 537 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: of people in their leagues I've noticed this, Like like, 538 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: my wife's in a league with a bunch of her 539 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: friends and she's like, man, like, somebody just picked up 540 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: Josh Downs and she was like, where is my head's 541 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: up on that? And I was like, oh, yeah, sorry, probably. 542 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: J Yeah, sacrilegious right there. 543 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: Look, I'm just trying to keep an even playing field 544 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: for uh, you know, I'm not in that league. So 545 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: so uh Michael Pittman right now he leads a team 546 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: of forty receptions, Josh has twenty eight. I mean, I 547 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: don't know. Pittman probably leads his team in receptions, but 548 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: Josh John's could be. I mean, he could be right there. 549 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: He could absolutely be right there in that mix, just 550 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: because I think on a week to week basis, he's 551 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: going to you're gonna get four or five catches out 552 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: of him baseline, and you could have some weeks where 553 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: he gets ten sum meek sere he gets five. S 554 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: weekshe he gets eight I think just like he'll be 555 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: in that five to ten range almost every week. 556 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be Reggie Wayne's sort of project, 557 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: not project. He's got a lot of them in that room, 558 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: but one that's a favorite of his, if you will, 559 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: is watching him be a better player because he's you know, 560 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: you've talked to Reggie starting a training camp about how 561 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: excited they are to have Josh Man. I mean, now 562 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: it's starting to come almost one hundred yard day, you know, 563 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: for the first time in his career, So those things 564 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 2: are going to be rolling downhill. JJ stank commits. I'm 565 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Gorman. This is the official Colts podcast, brought to 566 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: you by our friends that Win Las Vegas. I got 567 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: a couple of random questions coming your way. The trade 568 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: deadline coming up, Where we're at with this season, obviously 569 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: our big gun down for a little bit. What happens 570 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: across the NFL with teams that are you know, in 571 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: that mid level thing. Hey, we're treading water at three 572 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 2: and three right now. 573 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. I think you're probably you 574 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: still kind of have to take the long term view 575 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: of this, this whole project of you got a one 576 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: of the youngest rosters in the NFL. You got a 577 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: quarterback in Anthony Richardson who you want to keep building around. 578 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: Does that lend itself to an aggressive win? Now? You 579 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: know we're going after it. Move like you think about 580 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: the teams that might do that that at the trade deadline, 581 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: you're trying to plug a hole on your roster, and 582 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: you're like, we got we have a championship level roster. 583 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: We just need to go get this one thing. Maybe 584 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: it's you know, you go get another edge rusher, or 585 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: you go get a you know, a third wide receiver 586 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't necessarily know if that's 587 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: where the Colts are. We haven't really seen that be 588 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: a a thing that Chris Ballad is done here. But 589 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: by the way, I mean Chris Ballard made one of 590 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: the moves of the deadline last year going to get 591 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: Zach Moss. You kind of an afterthought in the whole 592 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: nihe Hinz trade, but turned out they got a pretty 593 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: good player out of that. You know, those draft picks 594 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: are gonna be valuable that you would have to burn 595 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: to go get someone. But I wouldn't put it past 596 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: this team if the right guy becomes available. Who this 597 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: team likes to go. Consider it. Again, I'm not saying 598 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, but I think, you know, Chris Ballard 599 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: is someone who's always said you your roster is never 600 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: done being constructed. There are always ways to improve it. 601 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: Whether that's through bringing guys in to your practice squad, 602 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: who you bring up to your active roster, you sign 603 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: a free agent off the street, you make a trade. 604 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: There are always different ways you can upgrade your roster 605 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: throughout the season, and I think the Colts have shown 606 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: they are always going to try to find that way. Again, 607 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here saying Coults are going to go 608 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: out and trade for you know whoever, but it's something 609 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: that you know. I'm sure Chris Ballard and Need Dodds 610 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: and those guys are always constantly talking. 611 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: Through Follow I'm on Twitter at or Twitter x Gallut 612 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: or coach who cares whatever and whatever. You know what 613 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, follow him at JJ stank Avits. Okay, uh, 614 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: this thing right here, people are yeah about this beauty 615 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: right here. Colts are going to be wearing this thing 616 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: and I think it's the first time in there, you know, 617 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: since they've been in operations that they've ever wore. First 618 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: black helmet, A black helmet. Yes, tell me about this 619 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 2: game against Cleveland that's coming up and what the cults 620 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: are going to look like. 621 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: So they're gonna be in this this black helmet, which 622 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: for our viewers on YouTube, you can see it right here. Uh, 623 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: we have a jersey over there. I didn't. I didn't 624 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: actually go get it. You have to go get the jersey. 625 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: Get all right, let's do this. This is great for 626 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: our audio listener aslutely. 627 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 2: Here's where we go. He's got the jersey. Oh wow, 628 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: look at that now, YouTube watchers see this. 629 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: Is the jersey right here you can see. Uh, it's 630 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: got this like this pretty cool heather pattern on it, 631 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: which it's called heather pattern on the blue or yeah, 632 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: first in NFL history. Uh, with the with the heather. 633 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: So it's kind of a like a little you know. 634 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: It's tough to see for the there's a camera so 635 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: far away. But yeah, there is definitely a different sort 636 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: of blue on that. But it looks not meshy. But 637 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: what's the word I'm looking for? Heather? 638 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: I would say like texture, texture, Yeah, I don't know, heather. Yeah, 639 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: And then you got you know, you got your black 640 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: black outline on the numbers here, so yeah, pretty cool, good, 641 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: pretty cool jersey. That'sening for first time that the Colts 642 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: are gonna wear the black helmet, like you said, Jeffrey, 643 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think it looks pretty nice. 644 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: Swag on Colts dot Com and Colts Pro Shop. There, 645 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 2: that's that's a plug right there, they're saying, it's that's 646 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: if you want it. And don't forget speaking of plugs. 647 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: By the way, this Gatorade fast twitches you like that. 648 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: I love this stuff. 649 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: It's like jet fuel. I fuel love listening. Get on 650 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: board with JJ Stankavis, don't forget. Inside Football with Rick 651 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: Venturi will be out on Wednesdays giving you the blueprints 652 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: for the Colts to beat the Browns in week seven. 653 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: Another episode of the Colts official podcast will land Thursday 654 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, Casey Valier, Bill Brooks and a TVD player 655 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: to be determined. They will have one sitting on the couch, 656 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: joining the pod and looking ahead to Sunday's game. 657 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: We give the player the chair. By the way, do 658 00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: you do? 659 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? What are you guys? Three up on that thing? 660 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: No? 661 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. 662 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: We usually I think it's usually Casey who bounces out, gotcha, 663 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: gives up the chair of the play. 664 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: Great, if you had three people and one in there, 665 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: that's what I want next time. We get more people 666 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: in so I can have a true panel right there 667 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: on the couch. We'll work on you, guys, Yeah, we'll 668 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: work on it. Yeah, we got a lot of YouTube comments. 669 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: But stop talking about the couch. And here we are 670 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: talking about the couch. Hey, don't forget instant reaction with 671 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: this guy right here and Bill Brooks Colts Ring of 672 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 2: Honor member, they give you the immediate the immediate instant 673 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: reaction recapping the Colts and the Browns. That's right after 674 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: the whistle blows. You guys, get to work and get 675 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: down on that. 676 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: So, okay, what was the thing you're going to throw 677 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: at me at the end here? 678 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: Well, the thing I was going to throw at you 679 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: at the end is is Cleveland is a his home 680 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yep, so 681 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: music is a big thing. I'm trying to think of Cleveland. 682 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: I've been there a few times, I remember, you know. 683 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: I mean, there's some stuff to do, there's some nice 684 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: lakes and stuff around that area of of Hawaii. 685 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: Of Hawaii. Wow, Yeah, yeah, people often convinced Wow often 686 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: often confused Cleveland for being in Hawaii. 687 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: But we have found out that, and I do some 688 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: research on you just to give our listeners and our 689 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: viewers just a little insight into you, because you're a 690 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: wealth of knowledge here. But you were in if if 691 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: this is correct, you were in the jazz ensemble at 692 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: Missouri when you were in college. That is jazz club. 693 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: That is incorrect. You're trying to put me in a 694 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: kayak and alligator infested waters last week. You're between the 695 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: jazz club. 696 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: You're ensemble, a jazz ensemble. 697 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: That is incorrect. 698 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: Well, I know you've had ivory. You've tickled the Ivory 699 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: young in your career, and I thought that went into 700 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: something that's true. You were a pianoler. 701 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got me on that. 702 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: In the NFL you did tickle the ivories and you 703 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: missed Super Bowls because you had gigs. 704 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: That's correct. We were talking about this, and I have 705 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: not let my parents live it down. 706 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: Okay, that I grew up. 707 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: They had me in piano lessons from first grade to 708 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't know sixth grade, and my piano teacher, missus right. 709 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: She always had recitals on Super Bowl Sunday. 710 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: Sounds like and yeah, god, I mean got them come 711 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: on uh. 712 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: And they were always at five o'clock. What time does 713 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl kick off on Central Time? Five point fifteen? 714 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: I missed multiple Super Bowls for piano recitals, and I 715 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: told my parents I gotta quit. I gotta quit piano, 716 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: like I'm missing the Super Bowl. And I remember my 717 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, my mom being like, well, you know, you 718 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: might regret quitting piano someday, and I don't because I 719 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: work in the NFL now covering football. So I never 720 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: let my parents live that one down that I was 721 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: doing piano recitals. I missed that great Titans Ram super. 722 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: Bowl because you were tickling. 723 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: Because that well, yeah, I mean poorly you talk. 724 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: Are you to put out any albums? Anything? On Apple Music? 725 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: We can listen to that you've done. 726 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: No, I don't know what that would sound like, but 727 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: no one wants to hear that. 728 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: I just tried. I put you in situations sometimes and 729 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: I make you dig out a little bit, but hey, 730 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: it's true. You're a musician at heart. No, you've did 731 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: You had six years of piano lessons that's okay. 732 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, you know what I can do though, uh 733 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: you know those like little so we we had the 734 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: little toy pianos for my kids and stuff. I learned 735 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: how to play on one of them, like when the 736 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: Saints go marching in and jingle bells. Okay, just on 737 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: these like you know, tiny little uh little you know, 738 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: baby toys. And my kids were you know, not even 739 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: a year old. I would just be like messing around 740 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: on that. Keep it up, I do, I do. 741 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: Okay, you're right, I do have it in me. I'm 742 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna bring it on the show that people 743 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: want to hear. So, Hey, any closing thoughts we got 744 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: from you, because JJ's you'll read on jj I Coles 745 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: dot com, follow him on Twitter x at jjsank. It's 746 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: it's a big game. It's another big game. The playoff 747 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: hopes are still alive here and stuff. Closing thoughts Facing 748 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: these browns coming up, it's good defense. 749 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz, by the way, has been doing this for 750 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: a long time. I was reading about this, the way 751 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: that he lines up the d ns and that wide 752 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 1: nine you know where the ends are like way outside 753 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: of the tackles. You know where that started. Where When 754 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: he was with the Titans, he got sick of Edgrin 755 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: James running the ball on him so much that he 756 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: figured out a way to try to stop edge from 757 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: getting to the edge, if you. 758 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: Will, So he threw them outside even from there and 759 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 2: then crashing down. Yep, Edgerant still in the mix. 760 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: Yep, I love it. 761 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: He changed defensive Schwartz is a good one. This is 762 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: gonna be a tough one. I appreciate the time of 763 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: you today. What's going on? We do face an uphill 764 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: battle after that loss in Jacksonville, dropping two to the Jags. 765 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 2: But somehow, someway Man, this funky league. We get on 766 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: a streak, we start hitting stuff, people start losing. You 767 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 2: never know what happens with Anthony richardson or without, so 768 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: fingers crossed. But this is a big one. We got 769 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: to get these next two and like you said, facing 770 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 2: two great defenses, Cleveland, New Orleans. 771 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: Three and three, with eleven games to go, it's still 772 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: a whole season's ahead of this team. 773 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: Let's go. Well done. Hey, thank you for your musical 774 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: input today. Appreciate your football input as well. Again, we 775 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 2: have brought you by our friends that win Las Vegas. 776 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm Jeffery Gorman, JJ stank. If it's find out more 777 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: any information, the latest and greatest, what you need, go 778 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: to colds dot com and again a big thanks to 779 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: our friends that win Las Vegas. I'm Jeffrey Gorman and 780 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: for JJ Stankvitz. Thanks Sherry behind the camera and we 781 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: will talk to you guys next week.