WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Early Thoughts On DE & LB 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:06.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:18.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.759 Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:32.919 Star in Frisco. Sat. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:38.480 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. It is a great Hall 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.839 of Fame Saturday here in Oxnard, California. Pro Football Hall 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.800 of Fame inductions in Canton, Ohio today and it's a 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.080 great big get back to work Saturday too. And one 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:55.120 of us forgot to get back work. We've got Bill Jones, 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:59.320 Rob Phillips, Brian brought us and the chair and the chair, Yes, 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.960 got a bottle water headset. This might be the best 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.399 show we do. Guys, I just said it. We're gonna 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.840 say on topic, this might break. We might get a 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.320 Marconi for this one. Shall I share my text exchange? 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.400 I love how you're calling him out. Well we could 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.880 have said that he you know, he's got prior commitments. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:19.280 NAT's got. Here is my text exchange with Mickey. I 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.000 said hello, he said yes. I said we're on the air. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:28.959 He said, I thought it's misspelled b I thought we 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:34.400 are going Sunday. I said, nope, Now get your butt 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.760 out here so we'll see the good news is the 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.959 good news is it's you know, he lives on campus. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.400 He lives on campus. All right, we'll see the thing. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.679 They'll be funny. Watch how like when he puts on 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.000 the headset help. Yeah, everything, he's just so frazzled. Wait 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.320 and he'll be like he'll be like, he'll be so 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.280 like just he'll run right into this show like I 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.200 thought we were talking about. Okay, okay, this is a 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:02.120 great teaching point, coaching point for what if if you're 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.800 the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys him and you've 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:09.840 got a meeting whoa who You've got a meeting? What 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:15.960 is happening? Eduld for ten? Yeah, and some player shows 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:21.240 up at ten? Oh? What is it? Six am? What 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.560 happens to that player? About a noon flight? On lax? 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.320 Back to the FW, I tell you, I think where 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.079 Mickey was. Were you doing your referee seminar? Yeah, you 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:36.320 shrunking head hockey lea man. I could have sworn we 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.400 said we were doing it Sunday. No, because we're all 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.799 talking so much tomorrow. That's what we took. We're doing 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.359 the scrimmage. Doing the scrimmage. To my mind was we 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.640 were going to do this as the preview to the 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.959 scrimmage team. We're making it the preview, all right now, 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.160 So what time did they go? They're going to morrow. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.800 You were right there, Derek was there. So John Roper 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.600 just walked into the meeting. Yeah, I didn't find falls late, 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.240 but is still the same. I was working going over 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.799 the new rules, the helmet rule, the new kickoff. He 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.520 was standing from the mirror practicing. I've got a TV 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:18.480 package to do. Oh yeah, mister TV guy, a sports director, 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.520 and I thought it was Sunday. He looks like your 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:27.840 Hollywood director over there. Yes, look great role. I'm good good. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.680 I woke up six thirty ready to roll there. All right, guy, 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:35.920 I've been to the harbor and back harbor. Yeah did 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.839 you did you? Did Nate wear his bicycling out? Yes, 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.560 he did. Big trying to ride you kind of ride 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.360 away from Nate on the bicycle. Oh it's great. Hey 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.560 he got that right orange shirt with the big Gator 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:52.840 roles bicycling it's green today. Yeah, you gotta you can 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.800 see him and you're like going, he doesn't look right. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.600 He loves he loves you, and you know what, everybody's 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.920 really nice to us. Riding with Nate, I bet right, 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.920 And it dawned on me and I'm going cal This 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:10.080 isn't the safest I ever felt, right, no doubt. Well, 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.600 you caused me to damage the desk, yeah, to see, 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.840 just trying to make fun of me and you guys. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.159 I was just spilled your water into your vet, your 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:22.279 your fruit there, and now you busted the desk. This 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.960 is karma for busting on that poor leafblower kid the 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.960 first show. We were ten minutes into the first shows, 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.960 trying to do his job. How is this karma? Right? 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.560 Hich is a fine for a player showing up late 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.040 for a meeting? Well? I need to look that up. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:39.240 Is it seventy five hundred bucks? It's in the sounds right, yeah, 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.719 the thousands, Yeah, it's I think it's seventy five hundred bucks. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.840 I think you did break the desk and there's no excuses. No, yeah, 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.360 you just write the check, that's right? Will they take 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:49.960 it out of your check? I wouldn't you get your 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.280 check and you go. I wouldn't have been late. I 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.520 wouldn't have been late if my teammates would have let 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:01.640 me know before ten the teammates. Yeah, I wouldn't have 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.960 let my teammates sleep in and miss a meeting in 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.839 the morning. Way Phillips say, back in the day, listening 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.000 is a skill. I guess, Derek right there yesterday. Memory 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.440 memory is another. Okay, So a seventy five hundred dollars 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:19.680 fine for these players who make yeah, big bucks. Seventy 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.279 five cents, So you were fine. Seventy five cents. That's okay. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.479 That's buy a soda. There you go, all right, And 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.839 it is Hall of Fame Saturday. It is. That's how 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.039 we started Saturday. Did you watch the gold Jackets last 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.240 I did not watch. I knew it was on, but 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.599 I did not watch. I want to see Jerry Kramer, 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.240 that's the one I wanted to I did. Yeah, Sam, Yeah, 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.680 that's good. I like Jerry Kramer and probably the most 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:48.719 appreciative guy ever. Wait so long, forty six years forty 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.159 six I think six years you had him in with 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.800 the current guys, and it's a pretty loaded class this year. 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.960 Randy Moss and big Time Lewis Ray Lewis guys look 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:03.320 like they were enjoying getting the jackets and being we 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.080 know where this is going tiptoe right down the street. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.400 I hope he watched it and sat there and goes, ah, 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.760 that looks like fun I got. I could have walked 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.800 through all those old all the older guys in the 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.560 Hall of Fame and had a hug and a handshake, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.520 just the way Ray Lewis did. But you know what, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.000 joy it does it surprise you? No, That's why it 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.000 doesn't really bother me. I mean, I think you should 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.280 be there. But Tio's always done what he wants to do, 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.599 and that he's always done things differently, it doesn't surprise 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.080 me that he's doing something different. Well, he lost out 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.599 on a great chance. It's the right time memory, no question. 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.359 All right. I got a little something. It relates the 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.320 Pro Football Hall of Fame class to what we see 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:51.560 out here, where you've got players who come from all 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.919 walks of life, from all size colleges. Just take a 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:56.880 look at this Hall of Fame class. You got Bobby 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.559 Bethard who went to cal Poly, San Luis Bispo general manager. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.560 Ride up the road here, Robert Brazil, he went to 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:08.000 Jackson State, same as Walter Peyton. Okay, Brian Dawkins went 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.240 to Clemson the first Clemson player ever in the Pro 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.360 Football Hall of Fame. Jerry Kramer. Where do you go 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.440 to college? Jerry Kramer went to school? Oh gosh, that's 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.960 a great question. Forrest Greig went to SMU, But I 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.040 don't know his line buddy. Where his line buddy went 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:29.240 to school? Jerry Kramer, Big Sky, Montana, Idaho. The Ray 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.320 Lewis went to Miami, Miami missed. Randy Moss Uh he 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:42.120 went to Marshal Marshall, Florida State, Notre Dame, yeah, Tera Owens, Tennessee, Chattanooga, Okay, 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:46.559 Brian Urlocker with New Mexican Mexica, Yeah, which was playing 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.320 in the Whack probably then back then, Yes, yes, all right. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.280 So you've got Don Perkins School, You've got Forever from 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.360 Saint Louis abyss Ball State, I mean, and then you 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:02.160 look at guys out here. We think of okay, some 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.160 people some think of Okay, you got to go to 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.040 a big school to make it in the NFL. But 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:10.480 look at all the guys that come from jeff smaller schools, 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.360 you know. Yeah. No, that's the great thing about when 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.600 you build a football team. And and the thing I 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.560 always remember about the greatest one of the greatest wide 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.360 receivers to ever play this game with the school at 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.800 Mississippi Valley. One of the greatest running backs to ever 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.640 play this game went to Jackson State. You know, there's 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.760 guys that you're right, uh, you know, you talk about 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.400 like guys like Gene Upshaw and people like that. You know, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.040 Offensive Lineman, you know Texas A and M. You know 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.240 Texas A and M. Kingsville now and you know Texas 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.680 and you know, so there's a lot of different a 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.600 lot of different backgrounds where guys come from. And that's 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.120 and that's why a guy like Bobby Bethard is in 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.720 the Hall of Fame, a guy like last year Ron Wolf, 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.440 Bill Polian, you know, Bill Polian is famous for going 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:54.400 and finding those small school guys. Andre Reid was from Kuntztown. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.160 You know. I mean, if you're if you're really good 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.640 at your job, if you're really good at evaluation, you 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.840 find these guys. You will find out where you know, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.760 And and Jason Garrett said something I don't know if 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.600 it was it was two days ago. He said something 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.560 about about the size of your team. And yeah, you 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.840 know he says, he says, I pay attention to the 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.440 smaller guys, because the smaller guys are the ones. How 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.440 did they get here? You know, big guys play football. 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.080 You understand why big guys play football, But it's the 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.240 smaller guys. You know, what's their skill, what's their talent? 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.120 Why are they on the team. You know, there's a 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.240 reason why smaller guys can play. Because but I just 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.040 I kind of am tying it into small school maybe 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.720 a small guy. You know, we've we've Hey, scouts are 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.720 not perfect by any means. You go through and you 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.600 miss guys, and I'm sure there's a gonna be plenty 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.200 more guys that go to those smaller schools that end 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.280 up in the Hall of Start. Like finding Cliff Harris 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:49.760 had watch a top bat exactly. Yes, that might be 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.920 the biggest unearthing ever. Yeah, and Jeff Heath is a 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.439 good player that they found. You mentioned him a minute ago, 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.640 Saganaw Valley State. I think Jason Garrett he has done 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.800 this time every camp. I think he mentions him as 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.679 an example the success story, a guy that came out 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.720 of nowhere, rookie free agent, earned his opportunity starting on 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.719 special teams in a Hall of Fame game, just kind 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.360 of speeding down the field. Who the hell is this guy? 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.200 And look where he is now he's a starter on 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.760 this defense about Hall of Famer Rayfield, right, Larry and 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:22.960 Larry Allen, Yeah, Sonoma Sonoma stated value Field right. Yeah, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.400 that's the end, that's the that's the beauty of scouting. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.679 That's the beauty of guys of like Gil Brandt and 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.840 pe Tall Jones. Yeah, you can find those guys, leon 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:40.720 Let Yeah, how about that. Yeah, there's places. Oh, try 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:45.400 to trick me. Oh, you're sharpen up said six. I 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.320 try to trick you because I really think you rolled 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.640 out of bed. That's why you got your sudglasses on. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.520 I have and I still got the crust in his eyes. 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:58.040 I have proof. Okay, out with Hanson again. Last night 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:02.040 I just called, just called Nate Rudder Room. Anson's not here, 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.439 but the Rudder Room is open at seven in the morning. Now, 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.240 by the way, it should be make sure you bring cash. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:12.240 He knows he left it seven. Yeah, it's like Pat O'Brien's. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:13.920 They kicked him out in the street and host it 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:18.120 out and missus, missus, mister Spagnola, did you please get 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:19.680 out in the street. We're gonna we're gonna host it 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.160 out there. There were still a line at missus Olsen's 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.520 for breakfast this morning. Missus Olsen's is good. Nice? Anything 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.679 else you need to know about what I did? How 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.679 many years? I mean? You want to see my picture 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.760 from the Oxnard Harbor. I could have been taken yesterday, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.680 not with Nate Newton. Yeah, okay, we need Nate to 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.520 corroborate this. Yes, we do it. We'll have him on. 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.200 He's on the defensive this morning. Oh yeah, he's like 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.880 he's he's like my buddies in Louisiana that crawfish going 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:54.800 backwards to guarantee you. I was up before any of 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.079 you even thought about it. Whoa wait a minute now, 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.800 I think I was up in five fifty. Why could 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:01.840 do Nate call you? No? Bill Jones and I have 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.200 to work out in the morning. Guys, they called me 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.120 at six fifteen. Well, hey, speaking to Nate. I know 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.200 we're kind of digressing here. Did you guys get the 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.200 text from Nate at five thirty? Watching film today? I'm like, 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.800 what are you doing? What is your problem? You know? 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.720 So here's here's the conversation we had last night. He goes, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.960 let's let's remember Nate's conversation, let's go do the bike ride. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.000 I go, okay, He goes, what time you want to go? 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.840 And I go, I don't know, like eight o'clock. Yeah, 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.480 And he goes and he says okay. And then at 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.360 six fifteen, my phone's ring. Yeah it's I thought we 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.240 said eight o'clock. He goes, No, I an't gonna wait 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.280 till then. Yeah, he's already up at the front lobby 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.320 waiting time, dressed, ready to go. Kind of reminds me 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.599 of my text message. I thought we said Sunday. No, 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.960 it's Saturday. Well, I said eight o'clock. All right, I've 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.920 got another little and before we get to a break 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.200 here and by the way, give us a call nine 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.880 seven two four nine seven forty four hundred to join 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:03.120 this special Saturday edition of Talking Cowboys. All right, Bob Lilly, 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.320 first Cowboy Hall of Famer number seventy four. Right, Why 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.760 now does this team have not one but two? Number 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.679 seventy four is out here on this practice field. Because 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.560 you have to have enough numbers too. You don't have 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.040 to give him seventy four. Then they're not gonna make either. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.760 They're not gonna make the team. No one has to change. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:26.000 No one has informed Dorrance Armstrong yet that he better 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.760 love that he cannot keep number seventy four if he 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.240 makes this team. And is did you inform him that 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.920 I informed him that on Thursday, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.240 I'm gonna go on the limb here and say that 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:42.760 he's gonna in pouring number seventy six tony and he 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.040 ain't gonna make the team. Humh, I'm just I'm just 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.000 I'm gonna go on that on them. That's just a 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.480 gut that is a total gut shot right there. But yeah, 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.800 he's not gonna wear seventy four. I mean, they just 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.720 don't do that. The Corn Curvin the offensive and they 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.160 just signed out of Alabama. They give him no white 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.960 number seventy four. But you know, it is kind of 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.480 a tribute to Bob Lily because we will talk about 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.280 it on the preseason broadcast. We'll bring up Bob Lily's name. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.959 So in that respect, I like the fact that they 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.280 give seventy four out. Yeah, you know, I've just kind 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.760 of with numbers. I've kind of you know, it's there's 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.960 certain players that look good in numbers, and then it's 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.520 like to say, I'm with you on the the the 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.560 issuing numbers, because I don't see two. You don't see 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:29.440 a twelve. There's certain numbers you don't see. Seventy four 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.640 is at the top of the list. Yeah, you don't 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.840 see eighty eight. Yeah, last year if there's not an 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.800 eighty eight, like there's not one right now. Yeah. So yeah, 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.360 that's a great point. Bill. I don't know. I'm just 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.400 I don't know if it's a tribute if you give 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.800 it to a guy who's gonna get cut, you know. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.080 I think the fact that Dorn's Armstrong got it is 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.400 I think is as a credit to him. I was 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.920 surprised they gave it to a draft pick. But I 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.400 have a feeling again this is this is just a 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.960 gut It's a gut feeling. It's it's gonna it's gonna 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.640 come down to h Well, let's see, Okay, okay, could 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.040 give him ninety three Richard Ashe. That could be another 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.640 one that they say, you know, maybe Richard Ashe doesn't 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.960 make this team. I'm here, I'm cutting guys you're worried about. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.760 I might worry about Eli. Yeah, I am a little bit. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.840 I think he practiced better the other day when we 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.320 had a chance to watch him. But I'm worried about 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.359 once this once it really starts to be a rotation, 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.200 once it starts to be once we do get Randy 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.120 Gregory out there. I think Dorn's Armstrong has been doing 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:28.040 pretty good. Once we get Crawford and you know, Crawford's 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.240 going and then and then Randy Gregory and then Armstrong 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.400 and those guys, I think that I think Cony Eally 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:34.840 is just gonna be one of those guys that they 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.200 kind of say, you know, it's not okay, thank you 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.720 very much for coming, and we're kind of set here 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.680 defensive end. It's got Randy Gregory on the team, you know, 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.680 I think got grand Gregory on this had to it. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.440 I thought so too. No, No, you're right, you're right 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.600 about that. And the thing about it was that to 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.680 meet the way their attitude about him now is the 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.160 fact that they're not playing him tells me that he's 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.400 going to make their tame plan in September nine. Yeah, 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.440 I was hopeful that. I was hopeful for Randy Gregory 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.400 to be able to when it when it got to 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.760 the final cut, and he would have and maybe he 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.840 still will you know, two three sacks in a preseason, 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.800 you know, and then going into the Carolina game, Hey, 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.760 he's part of the rotation. We're happy to have, you know. 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:18.680 And now it's going to be if they if he 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.280 doesn't get that opportunity, if he misses a bunch of 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.920 practice time, and then all of a sudden it becomes Okay, well, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.080 you know, we're we're really happy about having Randy Greggy, 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.120 but what do you know about Randy Gregory. I wanted 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.640 to see about Randy Gregory. I want, I think to 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.840 a certain degree there they are doing and I like 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.440 Randy Gregory. Excuse me real quick before everybody starts going 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.440 at me on Twitter about that. I am for Randy Gregor. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.520 I am not against him. I am not. I just 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.440 want to see him. I want to see him work 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.440 with the with the with and try and try and 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.800 win that job where you're hoping to see him the preseason, yes, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.200 and then it solidifies your thought of like it was 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.120 worth the journey to get here. That's what I wanted. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.840 I think. I still think we will see him in preseason. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.080 Jason Garrett basically said, yeah, you will see him in 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.640 the preseason. I hope. I think I do think they're 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.919 doing what they think is in the best interest of 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.719 Randy Gregory right now for a guy who's missed two 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.760 years of football, and that's that's slow play at working back. 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.280 In that being said, I do think they have they 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.400 see him on the roster. I don't think you wait 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:25.080 eighteen months and go through this process and back in guys, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.240 don't think he's got enough talent to make the football 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:28.880 team because I don't know, like you're to your point, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:30.879 I just don't know if a month is enough evaluation 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.679 time anyway for the guy. I think you may have 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.320 to just say on paper, we know how talented he is. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.560 Let's give him, you know, we into the season to 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.840 keep working and get ready. I want I wanted to see. 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.439 I wanted to see coney eally and I wanted to 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.600 see I want to see all those guys compete for 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.440 the spot. That's what I wanted to see. I wanted, Okay, 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.679 give me, give me at the end of the day, 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.680 give me my best four defensive ends. You know, give 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:56.120 me my best give me. I want to see who 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.440 the best ones out of this group is. And you know, yeah, 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.800 they're right. 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