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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Sat. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. It is a great Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame Saturday here in Oxnard, California. Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame inductions in Canton, Ohio today and it's a

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Speaker 1: great big get back to work Saturday too. And one

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Speaker 1: of us forgot to get back work. We've got Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Brian brought us and the chair and the chair, Yes,

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Speaker 1: got a bottle water headset. This might be the best

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Speaker 1: show we do. Guys, I just said it. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: say on topic, this might break. We might get a

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Speaker 1: Marconi for this one. Shall I share my text exchange?

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Speaker 1: I love how you're calling him out. Well we could

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Speaker 1: have said that he you know, he's got prior commitments.

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Speaker 1: NAT's got. Here is my text exchange with Mickey. I

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Speaker 1: said hello, he said yes. I said we're on the air.

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Speaker 1: He said, I thought it's misspelled b I thought we

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Speaker 1: are going Sunday. I said, nope, Now get your butt

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Speaker 1: out here so we'll see the good news is the

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Speaker 1: good news is it's you know, he lives on campus.

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Speaker 1: He lives on campus. All right, we'll see the thing.

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Speaker 1: They'll be funny. Watch how like when he puts on

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Speaker 1: the headset help. Yeah, everything, he's just so frazzled. Wait

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Speaker 1: and he'll be like he'll be like, he'll be so

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Speaker 1: like just he'll run right into this show like I

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Speaker 1: thought we were talking about. Okay, okay, this is a

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Speaker 1: great teaching point, coaching point for what if if you're

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys him and you've

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Speaker 1: got a meeting whoa who You've got a meeting? What

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Speaker 1: is happening? Eduld for ten? Yeah, and some player shows

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Speaker 1: up at ten? Oh? What is it? Six am? What

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Speaker 1: happens to that player? About a noon flight? On lax?

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Speaker 1: Back to the FW, I tell you, I think where

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Speaker 1: Mickey was. Were you doing your referee seminar? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: shrunking head hockey lea man. I could have sworn we

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Speaker 1: said we were doing it Sunday. No, because we're all

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Speaker 1: talking so much tomorrow. That's what we took. We're doing

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Speaker 1: the scrimmage. Doing the scrimmage. To my mind was we

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Speaker 1: scrimmage team. We're making it the preview, all right now,

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Speaker 1: So what time did they go? They're going to morrow.

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Speaker 1: You were right there, Derek was there. So John Roper

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Speaker 1: just walked into the meeting. Yeah, I didn't find falls late,

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Speaker 1: but is still the same. I was working going over

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Speaker 1: the new rules, the helmet rule, the new kickoff. He

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Speaker 1: was standing from the mirror practicing. I've got a TV

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Speaker 1: package to do. Oh yeah, mister TV guy, a sports director,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was Sunday. He looks like your

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Speaker 1: Hollywood director over there. Yes, look great role. I'm good good.

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Speaker 1: I woke up six thirty ready to roll there. All right, guy,

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Speaker 1: I've been to the harbor and back harbor. Yeah did

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Speaker 1: you did you? Did Nate wear his bicycling out? Yes,

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Speaker 1: he did. Big trying to ride you kind of ride

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Speaker 1: away from Nate on the bicycle. Oh it's great. Hey

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Speaker 1: he got that right orange shirt with the big Gator

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Speaker 1: roles bicycling it's green today. Yeah, you gotta you can

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Speaker 1: see him and you're like going, he doesn't look right.

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Speaker 1: He loves he loves you, and you know what, everybody's

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Speaker 1: really nice to us. Riding with Nate, I bet right,

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Speaker 1: And it dawned on me and I'm going cal This

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Speaker 1: isn't the safest I ever felt, right, no doubt. Well,

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Speaker 1: you caused me to damage the desk, yeah, to see,

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Speaker 1: just trying to make fun of me and you guys.

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Speaker 1: I was just spilled your water into your vet, your

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Speaker 1: your fruit there, and now you busted the desk. This

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Speaker 1: is karma for busting on that poor leafblower kid the

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Speaker 1: trying to do his job. How is this karma? Right?

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Speaker 1: Hich is a fine for a player showing up late

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Speaker 1: for a meeting? Well? I need to look that up.

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Speaker 1: Is it seventy five hundred bucks? It's in the sounds right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you did break the desk and there's no excuses. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just write the check, that's right? Will they take

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Speaker 1: fine for these players who make yeah, big bucks. Seventy

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Speaker 1: five cents, So you were fine. Seventy five cents. That's okay.

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Speaker 1: That's buy a soda. There you go, all right, And

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Speaker 1: it is Hall of Fame Saturday. It is. That's how

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Speaker 1: I did not watch. I knew it was on, but

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Speaker 1: I did not watch. I want to see Jerry Kramer,

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Speaker 1: that's good. I like Jerry Kramer and probably the most

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Speaker 1: appreciative guy ever. Wait so long, forty six years forty

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Speaker 1: six I think six years you had him in with

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Speaker 1: the current guys, and it's a pretty loaded class this year.

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss and big Time Lewis Ray Lewis guys look

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Speaker 1: like they were enjoying getting the jackets and being we

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Speaker 1: know where this is going tiptoe right down the street.

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Speaker 1: I hope he watched it and sat there and goes, ah,

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Speaker 1: that looks like fun I got. I could have walked

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Speaker 1: just the way Ray Lewis did. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: joy it does it surprise you? No, That's why it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really bother me. I mean, I think you should

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Speaker 1: and that he's always done things differently, it doesn't surprise

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Speaker 1: on a great chance. It's the right time memory, no question.

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Speaker 1: All right. I got a little something. It relates the

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Speaker 1: out here, where you've got players who come from all

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Speaker 1: look at this Hall of Fame class. You got Bobby

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. Jerry Kramer. Where do you go

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Speaker 1: to college? Jerry Kramer went to school? Oh gosh, that's

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Speaker 1: a great question. Forrest Greig went to SMU, But I

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Speaker 1: to school? Jerry Kramer, Big Sky, Montana, Idaho. The Ray

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Speaker 1: So you've got Don Perkins School, You've got Forever from

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Speaker 1: look at all the guys that come from jeff smaller schools,

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Speaker 1: always remember about the greatest one of the greatest wide

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Speaker 1: And and Jason Garrett said something I don't know if

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Speaker 1: this defense about Hall of Famer Rayfield, right, Larry and

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Speaker 1: Larry Allen, Yeah, Sonoma Sonoma stated value Field right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Let Yeah, how about that. Yeah, there's places. Oh, try

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Speaker 1: I have and I still got the crust in his eyes.

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Speaker 1: I have proof. Okay, out with Hanson again. Last night

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Speaker 1: I just called, just called Nate Rudder Room. Anson's not here,

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Speaker 1: but the Rudder Room is open at seven in the morning. Now,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it should be make sure you bring cash.

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Speaker 1: He knows he left it seven. Yeah, it's like Pat O'Brien's.

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Speaker 1: They kicked him out in the street and host it

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Speaker 1: out and missus, missus, mister Spagnola, did you please get

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Speaker 1: else you need to know about what I did? How

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Speaker 1: many years? I mean? You want to see my picture

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Speaker 1: from the Oxnard Harbor. I could have been taken yesterday,

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Speaker 1: he's he's like my buddies in Louisiana that crawfish going

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Speaker 1: it is. So that would be my four. Yeah. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and you you're already stated your opinion on number seventy six. Yeah,

422
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he's necessarily Yeah, I don't think out

423
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: of out of those guys, I think that he's behind

424
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: that group. It's a shame. It's a shame that again, Tapper,

425
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to see that from him. Well you don't

426
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: think he's in your top four, Well enough of him.

427
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: He's been off too. He got off to a good

428
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: start the first week, I think, and then what he

429
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: got sick two days right, right, Well, now I'm not

430
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: you put it, you put it, You put him over

431
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: a taco, then that's that's so they've they've been in

432
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: pads either over taco or I'm strong or strongs had

433
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: like one or two good days. They've been five, but

434
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: they've been late. They've been in pans five days and

435
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: Tapper missed two of them. Right, So he's been in

436
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: for sixty percent of the practices and Armstrong getting to

437
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: show up until these last two days. I think Armstrong

438
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: is a little bit better than you think. But that's

439
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: you know, that's I mean, I know you're watching practice too.

440
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to try and influence you there, but

441
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: I think that to me, if you watch the guys

442
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: that have been more disruptive, I think he's been disruptive.

443
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: I watched. I tend to watch that blue period and

444
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: then and then I know that he gets a lot

445
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: of work with the ones and the twos from both sides.

446
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: He's the one young guy that they actually move around.

447
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: That's what I like about it is there, So that

448
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: tells me he moved around just recently because the guys

449
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: were all missing, they had no one behind him. Well,

450
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: he played Marcus Lawrence doesn't line up and Taco doesn't

451
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: line up, somebody's got to go over there. Well, I

452
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: think I think, No, I didn't think. I didn't see

453
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: him playing as a left end. He immediately put him

454
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 1: as they put him in a left end. I think

455
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: they're putting the left in just try and see what

456
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: all he can do. That's where I think this is.

457
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't I understand what you're saying about the depth

458
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: problems they have there right now. But I think it's

459
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: about a little bit about playing. See what's interesting that

460
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about depth issues at defensive end, and probably

461
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: four days ago we're talking about how deep they were

462
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 1: at defensive but issues now because because fact I don't

463
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: have guys practice, right, That's what I mean, And that's

464
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: why they brought in Joe by Saint Flour out of

465
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: Northwest Oklahoma state. Yes it is, there's another big school

466
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: Northwest Oklahoma. Uh Patrick Crayton. Was he from Northwest Oklahoma?

467
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: I think no? I think he was Northwest. Yeah, all right,

468
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: Let's go to Brandon in Illinois first up here on

469
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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Hello Brandon, Hello guys, how are you doing great? Great?

470
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: My question is which are the three positions? Would you

471
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: rather have a good tight end, a good detacle, or

472
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: a good safety? Let to play your asters? Thank you guys.

473
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: Brandon has added tight end to our question on defensive tackle.

474
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: If you listen to the if you listen to the

475
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: break yesterday they went into tight ends pretty extensively about that,

476
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: So I'm sure that's why some people are getting influenced

477
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: by all that. Who do you got what do you

478
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: take defensive tackle? I'm tackle same if we're talking like

479
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: we were talking yesterday, absolutely and brought us brought up

480
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: Michael Brockers. Yeah, we're talking Brockers. I might want Brockers

481
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: on my team. Sure, I just I tried to throw

482
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: a name out there like that, you know, and maybe

483
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: the Rams wouldn't do that. But if you're gonna go

484
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: for a big fish, go for a big fish. And

485
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: and so there's probably some other teams. I might be

486
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: missing somebody at the Dolphins or this not that defensive

487
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: line that Wade Phillip about that secondary Wade Phillips asked

488
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: the Rams. Yeah, well he's I tell you what of

489
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: a coach? Yeah he is, No, he is. He's got

490
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: a goody, got a good idea of how he wants

491
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: to play his personnel. It's a man. And even they're

492
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: kind of taking Aaron Donald and saying they're paying all

493
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: these guys and not paying Aaron Donald, that'd be that's

494
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: just so risky to me as far as what you know,

495
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: what they And maybe this is gonna sound strange, but

496
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: maybe Aaron Donald doesn't really fit into what Wade Phillips

497
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: wants to do. Does that does that sound strange? Yeah?

498
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: I know, I know he's one of the best players

499
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: in football. But you know, it's kind of like it

500
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of when Bill Parcels came

501
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: in and we had Leroy Glover, you know, and and

502
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: it took I mean they had to play Lroy Glover.

503
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 1: Bill played him, it knows when. Yeah, and there were

504
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: several guys that that Bill did not like, and that

505
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: when we switched to the three four, he didn't like

506
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: that win. He didn't like Cokeley, and he didn't like

507
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: Leroy Glover and all three of those guys kind of

508
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: turn Yeah, it kind of turned. It turned around the

509
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: vision of what he saw for the position. And I

510
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: wonder if the reason why they're not extending Aaron Donald

511
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: is maybe a scheme fit and that sounds terrible for

512
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah, yeah, but I think anymore. But how

513
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: many times? How many times the team is in Nickel six? Yes,

514
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: sixty six? I see that. But okay, why do you

515
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: extend a wide receiver that has been in three different

516
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: clubs and is not you know, I mean they you know, Cooks,

517
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Why does Brandy Cooks get paid you know,

518
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: seventy million dollars and you're not paying a guy that's

519
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: one of your best players. It's because Aaron Donald ons

520
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty million dollars. Eric Donald might be

521
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: worth one hundred forty millions. Yes, I thought it was

522
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: like forty eight. No, No, you're talking guaranteed or yeah,

523
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: he did full amount. I'm saying they've extended guys. They

524
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: gave the running back and I think the running backs

525
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: a really good player too. But to me, Aaron Donald

526
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: is one of your best players years and and and

527
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: now you're like, you're kind of playing with him. I

528
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: mean playing with his his know, his thoughts and stuff. No,

529
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's the equivalent, well, the defensive equivalent of

530
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Zach Martin. I mean, you're obviously you are. You're signing

531
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: Zach Martin long term. Obviously you're signing it. You know

532
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: when you when you open the show and you start

533
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: talking about Hall of Fame I thought you were gonna

534
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: go for the Hall of Fame players. Is he the

535
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: only Hall of Fame players team for this team? I

536
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: thought that's what direction you were going on, that Hall

537
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: of Fame questions, that Zach hall of Fame players on

538
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: this team. Uh, yeah, he's got to get the longevity

539
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick if he keeps collecting all pros as a center. Yeah,

540
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: this team wins the super Bowl one day. I mean

541
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: tingle Hoff took how long or because he Yeah, we

542
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: just watched Jerry Kramers years. Yeah, talk about interior guys.

543
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: But but but the Hall of Fame players likely going

544
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: to come from this offensive line. Yeah yeah at this point. Yeah, right, Laura,

545
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: you don't see a thing with Lawrence. Maybe Lawrence one year,

546
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: he's had one year, he has four or five years

547
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: like he just had. Then he's all a shot about

548
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: the marks were what about Zeke? Has a good Zeke? Yeah,

549
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: we're just gonna forget about him. I'm just I'm not

550
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: forgetting about anybody. I'm just throwing it out to Zeke's

551
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: if he if he's able to sustain it. What kind

552
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: of crew do you think Zeke has here? Longivity wise,

553
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: it's very interesting. He's got what max three years left,

554
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: He's got seven years on the current deal, well, the

555
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: current deal, the current deal, he's got three years, three

556
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: years left, and then he could get franchise, right, get franchise,

557
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: or he could get a next year to mark get

558
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: franchised again. Yeah, you get him for seven years, So

559
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: that's seven years total. Or maybe he's looking at that

560
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: about the shelf life of a running back, but he'd

561
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: only beat twenty eight. Yep. Well, usually Arian Barber retired

562
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: at twenty studies say twenty eight. Is the Marco just

563
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: retired at twenty nine, thirty thirty seven years? Thirty wasn't thirty? Yeah,

564
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: it was thirty for de Marco. Yeah, but the special

565
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: ones go beyond twenty eight. They do the Hall of

566
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: famerscope beyond twenty eight. Yeah, we'll see, we will see. Yes,

567
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: get your crystal ball out. All right, Let's go to

568
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: Randy and Kansas. Next up, I'm talking Cowboys. Hello Randy,

569
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: Hey guys, and here's a two parts. I've seen that

570
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Michael tub has been really good in training camp. Do

571
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: you see him being like a number one over Alan Hearns?

572
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: And do you think that Prescott is progressing from last year?

573
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: From what you see? Has he gotten better? Okay, thanks Randy.

574
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: I think on Gallup he's been really good at times, yeah,

575
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: and then other times he hasn't been so good. And

576
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: that's a that's a rookie basically for you. Um, I

577
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: think long term he's got a potential to be a

578
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: good starter in this league. But I don't know, He's

579
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: got to be consistent as a rookie and that's that

580
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: might be a challenge for him. I think I think

581
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: this year, I think you need somebody like Alan Hearns

582
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: and stuff. Is he talking this year or eventually? I

583
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: think he's talking eventually. I think eventually, yes, yeah, yeah,

584
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think this time next year,

585
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: if we're all god willing, we're here doing this, that

586
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: that we'll be talking about him as a guy that's

587
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: going to be battling for that number one spot or

588
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: to remind you of in the league, who's a number

589
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: one receiver people were talking about. There were all kinds

590
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: of names that people were throwing at me through Michael

591
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Thomas name, Michael Thomas name from the Saints. I don't

592
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: know if he's that that kind of a physical guy

593
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: with that, even though he's got the size. Yeah, I

594
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: just I kind of feel like that with Thomas, you

595
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: got more maybe a when he came in the league,

596
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: he was a lot more of a physical guy. I

597
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: think this guy's a I think this guy's a just

598
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: as good a route runner as Thomas, But that that

599
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: makes that makes somewhat sense. Do you think he's best

600
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: as an ex er or y. I would like to

601
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: see him because as well as he played, he can

602
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: release off the line and so you could play him

603
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: at the X. He's got that ability to get to

604
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: get some separation off the line. I bet if what's

605
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: intriguing to him about him to me is how when

606
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: you do put him on the move. You know, he

607
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: caught a ball the other day coming across the field,

608
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, on a on a drag that I mean

609
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: you're thinking like, okay, put him in motion, let him

610
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: run and then let him go up and work while

611
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: he's on the move. Well that that looks like a

612
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: pretty good combination for you right there as well. So

613
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: by the way, at the combine he was six foot

614
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: and three quarters inch tall, two h five with a

615
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: four or five one on one sixty ten yards split

616
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: right and see that thirty six vertical tim two broad jump.

617
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: He's interesting because he's not he's not a Tavon Austin Burner,

618
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: but he's explosive and he's fluid in his routes. Yeah,

619
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 1: and he's and he's got he's kind of got all

620
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: the tools. He's got Mickey's talked about his big hands.

621
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: He's got a white catch radius. I mean, he really

622
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: can do anything. He Drew Pearson. What you he's quicker

623
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: than Drew Pearson. I think Michael Irvin he is not

624
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: his physical is yes, yeah, right, But I think Michael Erbi,

625
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: Michael Ivan was just so posing out there. I don't

626
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: know the thing. Not until nineteen ninety one though Michael

627
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: got Maybe Michael. The videos of Michael coming in when

628
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: he first came here was at eighty eight right eight

629
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: cut out. He looked at Yeah. In Miami, he was

630
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: kind of a slender guy, and he got bigger and developed.

631
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: You know. But when I think a big I think

632
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Speaker 1: a Michael, and I think a physical receiver, right, But

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Speaker 1: not at the beginning he became that in Miami. In

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Speaker 1: Miami he was a go get that ball receivers what

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Speaker 1: he was good route runner. Yeah. I wasn't dark hands, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't here for all of it. Yet what about

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Speaker 1: Antonio Bryant when he was here? Does your mind you

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Speaker 1: at all of him? A little? He was crazy. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about on the field. On the field as an

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Speaker 1: explosive case two D two. Here's here's my description of

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Speaker 1: Antonio O'Brian. I don't think Antonio Bryant knew where he

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Speaker 1: was running. And he ran like you were seen a

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Speaker 1: doberman run a dog when its front legs are over

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Speaker 1: here and the back legs are over here. He was

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Speaker 1: kind of that kind of a runner. He was explosive

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Speaker 1: in and out of his bright what his what that

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Speaker 1: one sixth one tells you? And then a four to

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Speaker 1: five one to finish. Then he starts a little slow

649
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Speaker 1: and now when we kick it, we go and that's

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of where he is. So give

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Speaker 1: me the guy. I mean, I like how he separates.

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Speaker 1: But to your point about Bryant, Bryant was one of

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Speaker 1: those guys that could. He was like he hit the

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Speaker 1: ground real quick and then when he when he went

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Speaker 1: across or ran or hit it, he was did it.

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Speaker 1: He was Antonio'briyant. Like does Bryant quicker, quicker, much, quicker,

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Speaker 1: much quicker running routes, And I think his routes are better.

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Speaker 1: And when you talk about hands, ab had some, you know,

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Speaker 1: he had some ability to snatch the ball. There were

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Speaker 1: times when he'd be running and you think he's not

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Speaker 1: putting his hands up and then you know he would

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Speaker 1: just do that. Him and Des are similar in that way.

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Speaker 1: I think Des never was. Despard was a big guy

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Speaker 1: that really never looks smooth running rounds where this guy

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Speaker 1: he gallop, he looks smooth running because I've seen him

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Speaker 1: run some outs and stuff like he'll try and shake

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Speaker 1: guy will adjust and then you see him burst to

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Speaker 1: the outside and their separation there. You saw it at

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Speaker 1: Colorado State too, his ability to get down the field

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Speaker 1: and separate. We're gonna hit on someone who gallop, reminds himself,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do We just need to think a little bit.

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Speaker 1: People were telling me that. People asked me about what

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking not really. So it's kind of hard to

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Speaker 1: Pierre Garson at San Franci Cisco, a bigger guy that's

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Speaker 1: a good route runner. But I think he's faster than

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Speaker 1: He's faster than Garson, but he's got toughness. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've seen him go inside at the at the Senior Bowl,

681
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Speaker 1: he's catching the ball in traffic and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: He's got a ton of a buildings. He does. He

683
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Speaker 1: about Larry Fitzgerald. Faster than Larry Fitzgerald. Maybe not the

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Speaker 1: precise of the route. It's not as big of a

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Speaker 1: looks like a dark guard. Go back and look at

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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald when I think Fitzgerald was a four seven oh

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Speaker 1: guy coming in. Yeah, yeah, I think he his time

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Speaker 1: at his time at if I'm not mistaken, his time

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Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh was not great. But the but the but Arizona,

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Speaker 1: Arizona made a commitment. Oh no, no, that's I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Though he did not work out at the combine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the thing the different. Larry Fitzgerald's a bigger player. He's sticker, Well,

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Speaker 1: he's bigger. I mean at the combine he's Okay, gallup

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Speaker 1: is six list cowbody is two h five. Fitzgerald was

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Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five pounds. Yeah at sixty three,

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Speaker 1: two twenty all on his lower body. Yeah, allows as

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Speaker 1: a junior coming out Okay, right, yeah, so I mean

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Speaker 1: the home preseason opener against Cincinnati is two weeks from today,

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Speaker 1: right about that? All right? As we continue here, how's

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Speaker 1: Albert Brier doing? You're just talking with Albert. Yeah, Albert,

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Speaker 1: his training camp tour. You know what, I like to

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Speaker 1: ask guys who have been to all these camps. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's bounced around, and I just always like to know

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Speaker 1: who looks I'd love to do that one time. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to go to all thirty two camps just kind

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Speaker 1: do that? Or that's what he does? At two he

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Speaker 1: get an idea who's playing where? So cool, but it'd

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Speaker 1: be tough to get much in a one day trip.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that just driving over this morning

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Speaker 1: what y'all are able to do being here for the

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Speaker 1: entire camp. There's so much knowledge to glean every day

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Speaker 1: out here, and now you can focus in on different

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Speaker 1: position groups and really we do a one day hit like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just don't know anything about the team. You're just

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Speaker 1: going in for the story. That's good. You can't. You

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Speaker 1: don't have time to analyze. Well, what you what you

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Speaker 1: would hope to do, is you if you had if

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Speaker 1: you had Scout buddies, you could you could saddle up

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Speaker 1: to it lunch and say, who do you got? Maybe

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Speaker 1: someone says, hey, you need to watch this young guy.

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Speaker 1: You need to watch this guy. But yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's been on your access yea. Honestly, who you're talking exactly? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: All right, We've got Will in Chicago next up on

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Speaker 1: talking Cowboys. Hello Will, Hey, Bill House. They have a

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Speaker 1: good one doing. I supposed to ask that, but I

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Speaker 1: have a comment in reference to the linebacker position. I

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Speaker 1: know the last year and previous years, we've always given

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Speaker 1: Sean Lee a rest during the preseason and also OTAs.

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Speaker 1: But this year, the fact that we have increased talent

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Speaker 1: with Jali Smith and that the first round draft pick

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Speaker 1: from this past year, I think it's thank you. I

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Speaker 1: think one of the buy products of arresting Sean Lee

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Speaker 1: during the preseason is gaining confidence with the remaining linebackers

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Speaker 1: in the event that we do have to play without

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Speaker 1: Shawn Lee at some point in time, given the fact

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Speaker 1: players about thirty years old, at some point we're going

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Speaker 1: to have to replace them. Do we see either of

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Speaker 1: those two players, along with Damian Wilson sometimes in the

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Speaker 1: near future, maybe replacing Shan Lee. That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: we know. Yeah. The thing that the thing that I

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Speaker 1: look at with Vandersch, I don't see Vandersch playing the Will,

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Speaker 1: and I don't see Jalen Smith playing the Will. I

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Speaker 1: the kid that the Bears drafted from Georgia, you know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go out and get one of

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Speaker 1: those types of guys. Okay, so I goes down, who

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Speaker 1: plays the Will? I think I think they would probably

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Speaker 1: put They would probably put March Lillard over there to

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Speaker 1: play the will, primarily Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: could play if he had to, but I think they

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Speaker 1: would might go with a guy with a little bit

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Speaker 1: more speech. Now, Yeah, that's no, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: March Lillards, Thomas Thomas, Joe Thomas has been playing as

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Speaker 1: the nickel, but he's been playing like the nickel Mike

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Speaker 1: when he gets on the field and they play march

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Speaker 1: Lillard at the will is what they do in bas

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Speaker 1: and and well when they do yeah and in basse

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Speaker 1: in base Joe Joe Thomas could play all three spots.

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Speaker 1: He could play all three spots. But I think that

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Speaker 1: they would. I think that they would play. I think

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Speaker 1: they would between again march Lillard. I think he would

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Speaker 1: play before marsh Lillard. Yeah. What do you think though,

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Speaker 1: prevents Vanderesh or Jalen from playing that spot consistently. I

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Speaker 1: think it's I think with with to me, that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a run hit position. That is a you got

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Speaker 1: to me. You look at you look at where you

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Speaker 1: have Jalen Smith right now. I mean, I think Jalen

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Speaker 1: Smith is getting better instincts wise, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he has that right now, the currently, the ability

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Speaker 1: I don't I think that. I think it's more I

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Speaker 1: think they need him to be more at the point

842
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: of attack and fight that and get that way. Then

843
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: they need him running on these plays. You know, now, Vanderesh,

844
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him play. He's talked about learning all

845
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: three spots, but they haven't seen him play will yet.

846
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: He's so tall, Yeah, I mean he looks like a

847
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: little linebacker in Marinelli's scheme. Yes, exactly what they're Well,

848
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: if you look at in the history of Marinelli's of linebackers,

849
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: Derek Brooks is the one, maybe the best ones he's

850
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: ever had. Herlocker, of course, is a Hall of Fame guy.

851
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's to me, I just don't see Vanderish

852
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: being is being that guy was strictly a middle lineback

853
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: Rich strictly, and I think I think ultimately that's what

854
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderish is going to be himself, right, I think

855
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: he's strictly So now it's gonna be Okay, who do

856
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: you want to put in you at the will? If

857
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: something goes down and you're right making, they very well

858
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: might play. Joe Thomas said. I just think that that

859
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, to me, would probably be a bitter fit

860
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: at Mike or on the strong side. And then you

861
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: got and you got march Lillard as a little bit

862
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: of a lighter guy that can run, get to the

863
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: play stuff like that. You keep him unblocked and let

864
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: him run to the football. And that's that's why I

865
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: think you go with a little bit smaller guy at

866
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: that position. And and justin march Lillard is listed at

867
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: six foot two twenty two. I saw watched him be

868
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: an interview just off to the side the other day.

869
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: He looked like a little guy. Ye know, Well that's

870
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: what that's what saying. He's a guy that that if

871
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: you want to put him, and that's what I profile

872
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: in that week side linebacker. Yeah, you order a quicker guy,

873
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: guy that can run. You don't want a guy that's big, tall,

874
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: that has to take time. And they again, you guys

875
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: brought up the point about Joe Thomas. He could play

876
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: all three spots, but I would keep him. I would

877
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: keep him primarily at the MIC or at the SAM myself.

878
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: And that's what Damian Wilson's at the mic. That's a sam,

879
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: I mean sam. Yeah, Yeah, So a lot going on there. Well,

880
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean I just haven't seen I haven't seen them,

881
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: you know. The replacement used to be Okay, just take

882
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: you know Anti hitching Hitchens play him over there? Yeah,

883
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: well Anti Hitchings to me is very similar body type

884
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: to what you see with march Lillard. That kind of

885
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: a guy, maybe a little bit big so than have

886
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: they now that obviously they drafted vander Esh in the

887
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: first round, but have they really replaced ant at the

888
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: versatility that Anthony Hitchings had being able to play it.

889
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: That Will maybe now maybe it's because of the march

890
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: Lillard and Joe Thomas you're gonna have at least you

891
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: have options. Yeah, now to say, okay, we don't have

892
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: one guy, we got two guys. That's why they had

893
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: to have those guys here, you know, because obviously, um

894
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: the track record is not good. That Will still think

895
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: they've got in their mind that maybe van der Esh

896
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: can play over there. Oh Will, We just haven't seen

897
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: it yet. Well, and that thing they want him to

898
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: be focused on one. Yeah, he told us start a camp.

899
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: He's been working at both spots and I'm with you,

900
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, but maybe maybe he's filmed studies. Mentally,

901
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: I just I think he's a I think he's a

902
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: perfect mic linebacker. I really do, Okay, I don't. We

903
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: failed and it was my fault. We failed on Randy's

904
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: in Kansas. Question about Dak making the progression. Are you

905
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: able to see in training camp this early in training

906
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: camp they making the progression that he needs to make

907
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: over what you saw last regular season. I haven't seen

908
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: anything I didn't like, right, Yeah, I think if initially,

909
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: I think initially he probably would be if he had

910
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: something back that he wasn't as good throwing the deep ball.

911
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: And I think now that we're now eight nine practices

912
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: into this thing, I do think you're seeing him throw

913
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: the ball better down the field. I think he's getting

914
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: accustomed to these receivers to they they threw something at

915
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: him the other day I thought was pretty interesting throwing defense.

916
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: That was the zone coverage down in the down in

917
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: the red zone, and it made him have to play

918
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: patient football. It made him have to say, Okay, I

919
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: can't make that throw. I can't make that throw. I've

920
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: gotta make this throw. So, if you want to to

921
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: say something, he talked about being more you know, protecting

922
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: the ball, being you know, being more patient with things.

923
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: I think if you want to say something, he might

924
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: have improved on not trying to force things. I think

925
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: that's something that tells a lot. If they're gonna drop,

926
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: if they're gonna sit there and drop seven or eight

927
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: people back, and and you're gonna try and force balls

928
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: all day, you're gonna be like Johnny Manziel last night

929
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: and that Montreal Alouette scar Lord. Yeah, that's what's gonna

930
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: happen to. That's why, that why, that's why, that's why

931
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't Fix and a half Vicky. That's why I

932
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: wasn't watching the gold jacket thing. Now, I remember, and

933
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: I worked out actually last night and I was watching

934
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: the train Wreck on ESPN. That's what I'm saying. That's

935
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When you when you forced the ball, Mike,

936
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: Mike Sherman didn't get him like because he knows it.

937
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: Did you know Jerry Glenville still coaches for what team,

938
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: Hamilton Tiger Cats, a defensive coordinator. He's seventy six years old,

939
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: did a nice job. Last night. They showed him on

940
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: the sideline that looks like Jerry Glenville, and sure enough

941
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: it was Jerry Glanville, right. He looked like he was

942
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: forty six? Did he have on did he have on

943
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: the black duster while he was coaching the game, the

944
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: black long duster in the boots. You know, somebody's gonna

945
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: say the same thing about Campbell when they see him

946
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: in the sideline to the Southern cowd to say this,

947
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: But I I didn't. You didn't know he was still life.

948
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: It's good. He is good to know. Which. He's glad

949
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: you saw which, which reminds me of a funny story.

950
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: We were in Tampa. This is going back. I remember

951
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: that hot well, every game in September and Tampa it

952
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: is hot and humid and so forth. The game, Michael

953
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: Irvin scored the touchdown to win the game. It was

954
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety or ninety one at Tampa. It was. It

955
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: was the hottest ninety I mean that locker room was

956
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: so humid after it was as small ast cramped up,

957
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: sobre humid. Yeah, the old sombrero there. But anyway, before

958
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: the game, we're in the press box and I think

959
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: they call it the Abe Gibron press box or something.

960
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: There's some tribute to Abe Gibron and they were uh,

961
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: and they made an announcement coach for that, they they

962
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: made some announcement about Abe Gibron and Jerry or former

963
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: reporter Channel Channel, was sitting next to me in the

964
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: press box and he says, God, I didn't know Abe

965
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: Gibron was still alive. Then we hear there's a voice

966
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: were right behind us him. I had a flashback to

967
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: that one. I saw Jerry Gladville on the sideline. If

968
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: I remember, you know my history here for the Chicago Bears.

969
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: George Allen got on the bad side of George Hollis

970
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: for some reason, and when they had to, when he

971
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: was leaving, they named Abe Gimbron the head coach. And

972
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: that's when George Allen left. I think George Allen started

973
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: with the Rams, but he went to the Rams. Okay,

974
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: he was with the Bear Rams Redskins, but he was

975
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: with the Bears. Yeah, am I right? No? I mean

976
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: at the Bears. He was a disaster. He was a

977
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: disaster Tampa. Oh man, I would say, if he has

978
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: a press box, just make sure he's not sitting behind you. Well,

979
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: he passed away in nineteen ninety seven, Oh man. Abe

980
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 1: Gibron was okay. He was with the He was offensive

981
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: line coach with the Bears sixty five to sixty nine.

982
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: Then defensive coordinator. Maybe it was head coach seventy two

983
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: to seventy four. Yeah, and then he became the Chicago

984
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: Wins head coach. Yeah, exactly exactly, and name went to

985
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: Tampa after that as a defensive coordinator from seventy six

986
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: to eighty four. Okay, how quick can you look up

987
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: George Allen? Well? But can I finish up my thing

988
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: about Dak? Yeah? I think I think the thing about

989
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: with again, it's about patience with him. If if he's

990
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: not trying to force passes, I think that's a that's

991
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: a thing because last year, and Mickey was right about

992
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: some of the stuff, he threw some good balls that

993
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: got clanged up in the air, you know. But if

994
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: you see him going through progressions, if you see him

995
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: reading defense is if you see him making the right decisions,

996
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: that only boats well. And I think we've seen that again.

997
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: The only thing I really saw initially was the touch

998
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: on the deep ball, But I think that's improved as

999
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: we've gone along here in camp, and even with the

1000
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: guys seving some probably a little bit some tired arms. Yeah,

1001
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: I think he's throwing the ball pretty well. Very rarely

1002
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: do you see him throw a ball that you're like, oh,

1003
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: where was that? Yeah, you know already a lot of

1004
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: that whelready. He finished in the top ten. I think

1005
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: it was number six. Yeah, he was in the top ten. No,

1006
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: I said where though, I assumed he was. Well he's

1007
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: in that's good. Yeah, yeah, Well what nine or ten? No?

1008
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: I think he was six or seven and then on

1009
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: the top ten. I don't remember. Off the top of

1010
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com, we had the top guys in

1011
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: camp so far. Okay, uh, George Allen answer your question, Mickey.

1012
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: He was a Bears assistant from fifty eight to sixty five.

1013
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: Then he was with the Rams for five years sixty

1014
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: six to seventy, and then to the Redskins from seventy

1015
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: one to seventy seven. I just remember there was something

1016
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: that went on between Allen and he and Hellis signed

1017
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: up with Gibberon instead of Papa Bart didn't make a

1018
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 1: lot of good decisions that time. Yeah, he was starting

1019
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: to lose it, all right. A couple of minutes left

1020
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: on talking Cowboys here as well. Let's spend the last

1021
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: couple of minutes previewing tomorrow's Blue White Scrimmage, which you

1022
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: can watch here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, t x

1023
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: A twenty one and Dallas Fort Worth six o'clock Central time,

1024
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: four o'clock here, and make sure if you're in sunny

1025
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: southern California to head on over here to Oxnard and

1026
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: watch you got They'll be on the field right over

1027
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: there where the grandstand is. Great opportunity to watch this

1028
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: team in action. It's fun for the whole family with

1029
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: a youth combine for the kids as well. What are

1030
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: y'all looking forward to in the scrimmage tomorrow scrimmage portion

1031
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: of practice tomorrow, Well, when they actually scrimmage, it will

1032
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: be at the blue period. And I just want to

1033
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: see what some of these young guys that we think

1034
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: we know actually play football. And you know you're gonna

1035
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: start tackling, yeah, I assume right. And you know we

1036
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: can see where what Armstrong's doing, right, we could see

1037
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: what you know, this Antoine Woods whatever. You know, somebody

1038
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: knows his name now, you know, Crawford knows who he is,

1039
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: The owner knows who he is. Good. Yeah, you know

1040
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: some of those guys, some of those backup tackles. You know,

1041
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: anybody got anything because it's still that position. We're a

1042
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: little worried about, right, Yeah, and they're gonna have to play.

1043
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna have to be backups. There made it through

1044
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: an entire show without mentioning the name Cam Fleming until

1045
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: just now. Yeah, go ahead. I think with Cam Fleming again,

1046
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: he's a fifty to fifty fifty guy. A little bit

1047
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: better in practice the other day. So yeah, we'll see

1048
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: how that all swings out with us. He plays with

1049
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: those guys. No, he's been in the blue period. He's

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Speaker 1: been getting been in there, has been getting work at

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Speaker 1: left tackle in the blue period. Maybe they're trying to

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Speaker 1: get him in a little bit better shape, a little

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Speaker 1: bit better conditioning, maybe trying to accelerate the play knowledge

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Speaker 1: and stuff. But yeah, I'm always interested in offensive defensive lines.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw the quarter backs out there too. Which one

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Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks to marrow can maybe separate a little bit?

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Speaker 1: Which one will which one when we do our show

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Speaker 1: on Monday, Will we have a better taste in our

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Speaker 1: mouth about the way, and maybe that will launch one

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Speaker 1: of these guys to play. Talking about Cooper Rush, yeah exactly, exactly,

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Speaker 1: that's right. The final word from Rob. I'm watching these

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Speaker 1: tight ends. I want to continue to see Blake Jarlin's

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Speaker 1: done a nice job in camp up to this point.

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Speaker 1: I think Jeff Swain has been solid. Who else can

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Speaker 1: step up? And you know, is there going to be

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Speaker 1: more clarity of this job as we get closer to

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Speaker 1: preseason game number one? All right? Should be fun on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your weekend in the meantime, and we will see

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Speaker 1: you live from the practice field. Of the Blue was

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Speaker 1: done already on Sunday. This has been a production of

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