1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Sean Hannity Show. This is Jay 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Secular George Sekulos here and we are hosting for our 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 1: friend Sean Hannity today and we're thrilled to be with. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: We've got a lot to talk about. I am the 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Chief council of the American Center for Law and Justice. 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Jordan's the executive director of our organization. We were pleased 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: to be here last week. Great to be back. A 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: lot has happened in the one week period of time 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: that we were out. We leave on a Friday, and 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: then on Saturday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, Joe Biden, the 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Commander in Chief, decides to take decisive military action. Reminds 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: me of Maverick and Top Gun. And he was just 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: I mean, this was decisive. Three unidentified flying snoopy balloons 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: from the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade, we're flying over 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: the United States and he decisively. Jordan took action and 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: somehow if it's Canada to do that as well, Yes, 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: and Primero Trudeau went to the MICS and said in 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: cooperation when Norad and Bide wouldn't go to the you 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: know till yesterday when he said he still doesn't know 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: what these are, but they're likely have nothing to do 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: with foreign countries and are individuals or private groups, maybe 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: weather balloons. It doesn't even seem like these rides to 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: the level of like a weather balloon. No, these are 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: something that you can go online put the whole package 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: together for about six hundred bucks. Well, the Northern Illinois 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you. Yeah, I'm not kidding you. This 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,919 Speaker 1: the Northern Illinois Bottle a Bottlecap Balloon Brigade. They launched 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: these these balloons and they trap tracking system. That's what 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: you were saying, Jordan, the six hundred dollar package package 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: with the GPS, and they said, yep, we had one, 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: and we lost it right over that area of the 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: wilderness of the Yukon. It was just gone about that 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: same time. It was about thirty thirty eight thousand feet 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: off the west coast of Alaska Friday. By Saturday, it's 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: projected path would have been over the Yukon territory around 36 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: the same time, and F twenty two shot down an 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: unidentified object of a similar description out to it. Also 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: explains why they would have missed on a shot because 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: they so small and they're not putting off hardly sounded 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: like an alien. Yeah, there's no heat. Heat. That makes 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: more sense, but also shows it is that classic Democrat 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: move to like start almost wars. Yeah, escalates something to 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: F twenty twos shooting down over you know, over countries 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: and territories to look tough after we looked absurd after 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: allowing a gigantic almost calling it a balloon, is not 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: there vehicle? Yeah, two hundred foot tall Chinese spy device, 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: which if you went online, he wants to press had 48 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: enough time with this, you go online. Nonprofit groups have satellites. 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, you can go and see the actual 50 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: place they make these balloons in China and you can see. 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: So we knocked down a balloon thinking it was China. 52 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: That was a balloon actually made in China that we 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: shot down with an F twenty two that was hopefully 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: made in the United States. Yeah. So John Kirby's response was, well, 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Take a listen, let's play fight one. 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: And there are any feeling of filftration. Perhaps this was 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: a twelve dollar hobby balloon from a group of kids 58 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: in Illinois. Again, given the information that we had at 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: the time and the legitimate concerns about potential surveillance in 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: the wake of the Chinese by balloon. You make decisions 61 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: based on the best information that you have, and ultimately 62 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: you have to come down to some core principles when 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: you're making decisions as commander in chief. Frankly, given the 64 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: circumstances in light of what happened with this by balloon, 65 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't that be a better outcome if it turns out 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: that they were in fact civilian or recreational use or 67 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: a weather balloon and therefore benign, which is what the 68 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: intelligence community thinks. Isn't that a better outcome than to 69 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: have to to to think about the possibility of greater 70 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: threats to our national security? So best information? So here's 71 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: the best information. The head of no Ratz is we 72 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: had a domain gap in our ability to track this 73 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: A not true. I'm not saying he lied, by the way, 74 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: who knows what they told him, so that ends up 75 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: becoming totally false. That's number one. So that's the best 76 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: information we had. Then he says, core principles. So here's 77 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: our core principle. We let the Chinese launch a spice 78 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: balloon from China through the United States, traversing the entire 79 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: United States. When they're done surveiling us, we shoot it 80 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: down over Hilton Head. Okay, However, when we have three 81 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: un a dyna fied flying balloons that are literally balloons, 82 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: like I mean, maybe Snoopy was on it, I have 83 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: no idea. We take an F twenty two that we 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: And now I'm not blaming the military. They have to 85 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: follow their orders, folks, and I'm supporting the military. He 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: followed his orders. The pilot was told to knock this down, 87 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: and you know, they fly up in the air and 88 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: there you go, and they find it and they first 89 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: missile miscaus. It's not he's thinking that. He probably had 90 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: to do some kind of top gun everick maneuval, manual maneuver, 91 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: and he has a shot, and he has the kill 92 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: of the balloon and no wonder nobody could identify what 93 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: it was shot down an aircraft. But here's the thing, 94 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: what is the core principle? Is the core principle? We 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: let the Chinese spy on us with a balloon going 96 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: over our military basis, but we shoot down twelve dollars balloons. 97 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: That's there's no consequence. It's a shooting down a kid's 98 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: weather balloon. No, but we're not even so they can't. 99 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: No one can cut off your trade for shooting that down. 100 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: They're not prepared for that engagement with China, so instead 101 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: they want to look tough, but they're not. They're not 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: shooting that again. They're happy that they wasted our resources 103 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: and mundy put people's lives at risk because every time 104 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: you put one of those fighter jets up. This is 105 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: the first times F twenty two has have been used. 106 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: You know, they've never aerial cup. They have not executed 107 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: a MISSI launch from an airplane in air, including during 108 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: nine to eleven. This is the first time, Yeah, and 109 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: ever in US history other than U when We're fighters 110 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: were scrambled during Pearl Harbor. I mean, that's it. So 111 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: this does not happen. So the first so our core 112 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: principle is we let the Chinese spy and we do 113 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: nothing and shoot it over when they're done spying. And 114 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: then we show how our court principle is knock out 115 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: a balloon that we don't even know what it is. Uh, 116 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: And they said it was in territory that will be inaccessible. 117 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: You're not gonna find this. I'm picturing this deflated. You 118 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: said you looked them up and you could like buy them, 119 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: you could buy right. Amazon is like out of a 120 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: run on them right now. There's some amazons the end 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: of the day. Okay, but you know, John Kirby, Admiral 122 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: Kirby not exactly a confidence builder, would you say, not 123 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: a confidence and they throw them out there to make 124 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: these ridiculous statements like is it great that we use 125 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: our military. That's something that we didn't need to use 126 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: our military. And we're going to start a plan of 127 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: to have a balloon patrol. They're gonna put together in 128 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: their agency review on balloons. I've never heard of any 129 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: incident where a balloon this size has caused any troubled 130 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: an aircraft commercial or idea that it's somehow imposing a risk, 131 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: even though it wasn't a Chinese spy balloon, it wasn't 132 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: two hundred feet all these things. It makes more sense 133 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: about why the military was so confused some of these 134 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: pilots about what they were shooting at. Here's the way 135 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: the military could be confused. This could be the reason 136 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: why let's talk about our communication between the United States 137 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: and China. John Kirby was asked this, this has cut 138 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: sixty nine number two. What's really important here, and I 139 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: know the question was about President Biden and President she 140 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: is that the lines of communication with the PRC remain open. 141 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: I recognize that there are attensions, but Secretary Blincoln still 142 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: has an open line of communication with the Foreign Minister. 143 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: We still haven't an embassy in Beijing with a terrific ambassador, 144 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: Nick Burns, and the State Department also can communicate directly 145 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: with the PRC's embassy personnel here. So the lines are open. Unfortunately, 146 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: the military lines aren't open, and that's really what we 147 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: would like to see amended. And it was of course 148 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: curtailed after a speaker Pelosi strip to Taiwan. Okay, okay, 149 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: think about this, folks, the military, other people, given we 150 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: shot down the balloon last week. Yeah, the military. We 151 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: have lines of communication open between Secretary Blinking and the 152 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: State a feign minister for from China. That's a comforting thought, 153 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: by the way, that that's who's communicating. That's another story 154 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: for another program. But we don't have lines of communication 155 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: open between the Chinese military, in other words, their minister 156 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: or Defense and our Secretary of Defense. Now let's think 157 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: about that. There's only a few reasons why that we 158 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: should be talking at There's two most powerful countries in 159 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: the world. We don't speak to their military now because 160 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: of a balloon, because there's a laydboard Europe going on 161 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: while we speak, and we're talking about the risk disposed 162 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: to civilian aircraft. They still travel. You could, like he said, 163 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: you could go to Beijing today. So this is the 164 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: bizarre situation where with China, except for we're asking them 165 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: to abid the relationship and they won't, which tells you 166 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: a lot about the US standing. They don't care the 167 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Chinese the United States. No, they're not. This becomes much 168 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: tougher for a future administration to fix with. They've already 169 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: gotten their minds. Don't worry about the US. We've been 170 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: so they would like to have more influence on the West. 171 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: That's what they mean by pro Western. They are not. 172 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: It's the Chinese Communist Party that's who we're talking about here, 173 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: and we have an administration that says we're going to 174 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: get the core principles. So Admiral Kirby was pressed on 175 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: that as well. This is cut seventy, This is number three. 176 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to this as this about 177 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: are we going to continue to shoot down unidentified flying balloons? 178 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: Knowing everything he knows, now, would he take the exact 179 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: same steps and shoot off these expensive missiles at these 180 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: benign objects. We're going to to put some more policy 181 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: parameters in place, James, to govern the way we handle 182 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: these going forward. You make the best decisions you can 183 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: with the information you have at the recommendation of military leaders. 184 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: I can't say it any more than that, yet, you know, 185 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: you gotta love James Rosen and I knew that was 186 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: James Josen just by the question and that The response, though, 187 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: is classic John Kirby deflect. We're gone because we don't 188 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: have a everything is we're putting. You know, they're two 189 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: and a half, two years and months into their administration 190 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: and they're still putting together policy task force. Do you 191 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: know that when we got off the air on Friday, 192 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: they shot Friday, Saturday, and Sunday we had missile attacks 193 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: from our aircraft against against By the way, they denied 194 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: it was a balloon for how long? I mean for 195 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: like for weeks you're saying a balloon? The president called it, 196 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: What do you call it? Biden? He called it a vehicle. 197 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean this is it shows you though, what happens 198 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: when you have week leadership and Jordans something you says 199 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: really worth emphasizing here. Bilateral strength when you're dealing with 200 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: a country like China is power. They react to power. 201 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean Benjamin Disraeli famelessly said this back in the 202 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: eighteen seventies and dealing with and dealing with Russia at 203 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: the time and Turkey. I mean, they understand power and 204 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: we don't show power. And that's why this election coming 205 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: up is going to be so critical. But in the interim, 206 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: you don't want to see the country destroyed. And they 207 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: are on a foreign part. We are not speaking to 208 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: the Chinese military right now. Think about that for a minute. 209 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: Let that same because of the they're just it's not 210 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: we didn't decide not to speak to them, right We're 211 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: not the tough ones this relationship. They are. They've said, 212 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: we're not talking to to Secretary of Austin and again 213 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: they're seeing us waste all of our resources in Europe 214 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: without the rest of NATO. Perry fair share. Let's I mean, 215 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: we can talk about you create all, we won't. We're 216 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: sending all of our military weaponry towards there, said it 217 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: takes over their Chinese are loving that. Oh yeah, we're 218 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: not replacing it as of right now. And would we 219 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: do put these planes up to actually show our strength. 220 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: We're shooting down kids literally a hobby project, and it's 221 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: calling that a threat to civil aviation is we're take 222 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: the civilian balloons. Oh, let me tell you this, Senator Cruz, 223 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: our friends Sentator Ted Cruz sent a great tweet. He said, 224 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: to be fair, Biden is providing a powerful deterrence for 225 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: any high school science clubs that might be trying to 226 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: evade America. Yep, you know I'm laughing about this because 227 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: you laugh for your cry and choose to laugh in act. 228 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: But you know when you got to take action on this, folks. 229 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: And this is where the reality of what we're dealing 230 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: with as a country and the lack of leadership becomes 231 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: so pronounced, especially when you're dealing with a complex geopolitical system. 232 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: We got a lot more coming up, boy, this is 233 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: gonna be We're have We got a great program. Like 234 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: I said, it's j Seculo and Jordan Secular. 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I'm 253 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: here by Dad Jay Seko from the American Seer for 254 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: Law and Justice and it's great to be joined by 255 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Governor Christie doul of South Dakota. As we talked about 256 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: the Chinese spy balloon. One thing they could be doing, Dad, 257 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: was surveying their land purchases. Yeah, they could be could 258 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: be like a title search. But this is it is 259 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: very serious what has happened here. We we kind of 260 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: looped around a little bit about what was going on, 261 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: but this wasn't funny for the governor. Governor, thanks for 262 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: being on with us. I want to start with, how 263 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: were you notified that you had this situation with which 264 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: we know now was a spy balloon from China over 265 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: your state. Well, it was interesting because it wasn't until 266 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: the night, two nights before it actually became public news. 267 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: I had a notification from my National Guards as they 268 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: had been contacted by DoD in the White House. But 269 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: their assets may need to be utilized to shoot down 270 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: or to recover a foreign object in the sky that 271 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: would be entering South Dakota's airspace the next morning. So 272 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: I would not have been contacted at all had it 273 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: not been for my National Guard reaching out to me 274 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: to say that they were their assets might be needed. 275 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, Governor, because some people do not 276 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: know this, but as the governor of the state, you're 277 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: the chief executive of your state, and constitutionally, under state constitution, 278 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: that national Guard reports to you, and that includes aircraft. 279 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: It does. In fact, you know, it's well known that 280 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: governors are the commander in chief of their national guard. 281 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: They do, you know, our subject to federal deployments, but 282 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: that's always in cooperation with the governors, and the governors 283 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: accept them and are notified to that, and that's something 284 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: that's always been standard operating procedure. What's interesting is in 285 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: this situation, those normal protocols weren't followed. You know, they 286 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: normally would have some outreach with the governor's office. It 287 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: was very unfortunate that I had to find out the 288 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: way that I did, and that I certainly wasn't updated 289 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: or briefed either. It was I went to the only 290 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: time having contact with my National Guard, and not the 291 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: White House and not the Pentagon until days later. Unreal Jordan. 292 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: It is a governor. This is not a new issue 293 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: for South Dakota, and under your leadership, you've been combating 294 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: and doing what you can't as governor of South Dakota 295 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: to combat the Chinese Communist Party. It started with even 296 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: acts because I think people are starting to take more 297 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: seriously today, But you did it over a year ago, 298 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: which was to band government employees using government devices in 299 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: South Dakota contractors from accessing TikTok, which is like having 300 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: a Chinese spy device in the pockets of one hundred 301 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: million Americans. And now you're pushing back, are these Chinese 302 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: land grabs in the United States? We did. We've taken 303 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: several actions in our state. Again, China in their infiltration 304 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: into America. You know no secret that they have for 305 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: years taken steps to try to destroy our country. And 306 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, so what we did months ago, I signed 307 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: an executive order that banned tech Talk from being downloaded 308 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: on any state device. We banned it from our servers 309 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: and made it a criminal penalty if anyone did go 310 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: forward and download that app without any prior authorization, which 311 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: would not happen in our state on any kind of 312 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: government system. We also I went out into the executive 313 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: order that also said the state would not do any 314 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: business have state contracts with Chinese companies or from six 315 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: different countries that do hate US, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, 316 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: and also address telecommunications companies. Governor, I want to ask 317 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: you about this on the land because it's been strategic 318 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: what the Chinese government's doing the Chinese Communist Party and Jordan. 319 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: I did legal work in China for persecuted religious minorities, 320 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: mostly Christian groups that are unbelievably harassed and worst persecuted 321 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: is really the word you use in China, so we 322 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: know the system there. But the Chinese had this policy 323 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: which is basically China first. We talk about America first, 324 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: but they've always had China for at least since the 325 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: Cultural Revolution. I've had China first on these land purchases. 326 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: It's not random land they're looking at acquiring right They're 327 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: trying to get it in strategic locations. No, absolutely, if 328 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: you look at the foreign assets that they are, the 329 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: assets that they hold here in our country right now, 330 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: they are very strategic in what they're buying up. I 331 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: have a bill I'm working with legislators to bring through 332 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: our legislature right now which would ban these types of 333 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: purchases that they would go to a review board, much 334 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: like the federal Sciffius model, that they would look at 335 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: who actually is purchasing that land, and that board would 336 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: decide to make a recommendation to the governor that then 337 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: I could stop that purchase. We had right in North 338 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Dakota to our north, a situation where they purchased land 339 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: close to their air force base, and we have Ellsworth 340 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: Air Force Base in South Dakota. It is going to 341 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: be the home of the B twenty one, the next 342 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: generation bomber that we've been waiting for. That we'll defend 343 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: our country for many years to come, and we don't 344 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: want to allow a situation where they're able to come 345 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: in and China can purchase land near that air Force 346 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: base where they could conduct surveillance on the platform and 347 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: gather information they would then use to come after an 348 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: attack the United States of America. We know China has 349 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: been doing this for years by operations and surveillance. We 350 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: know they've been manipulating their currency, feeling our ip building 351 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: up their military. What we've seen in actions from the 352 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party has been to undermine the United States 353 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: of America at every turn, and we're just not going 354 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: to allow that to move forward here in South Dakota. 355 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to just follow this up. Governments get we 356 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: have a situation. We're going to talk about this later 357 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: in the program. So we represent a ministry that has 358 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: done civil protests in Washington a whole host of issue 359 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 1: from abortion to a persecution of religious minorities, and they 360 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: did they did a protest in from the Chinese embassy 361 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC, and the Secret Service actually came out 362 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 1: and said, hey, listen, the Chinese embassy just told us 363 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: that this property and we're talking about a public sidewalk 364 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Which is owned by the American 365 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: people actually the way the District Columbia set up, and 366 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: that they said this is their property and get off. 367 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: And the Secret Service said, you know, we're just following 368 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: what the Chinese are telling us to do here and 369 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: as if that was okay, and people need to understand 370 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: that this is a nefarious act by the Chinese. Oh absolutely, 371 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean. And that's the thing that is so interesting 372 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: to me is that it's no secret, and it hasn't 373 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: been for decades. They've been purchasing up our food supply systems. 374 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: They're looking for every avenue that they can to become 375 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: the world dominating power. They know they have to take 376 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: out the United States of America to do it, and 377 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: they're flexing their muscles and that guess that's what shocked 378 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: me so much about President Biden's response was, you know, 379 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: to these surveillance balloons that are out there, is that 380 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: he actually said, you know, even though they're going to 381 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: put tariffs against us, that we should have communication that conflict. 382 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: They invaded our sovereign air space and they were spying 383 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: on us, and we took action to protect our country, 384 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: and now they're going to punish us, and we're going 385 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: to stay in response. Oh, let's just talk a little 386 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: bit more about this. I think because they view us 387 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: as an adversary, we just refused to view them as 388 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: the adversary that they actually are. Jordan. Yeah, I mean 389 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot we have to our country to be 390 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: prepared to even treat them as I mean, for one 391 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: hundred percent, we got to invest more in our own manufacturer. 392 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: You're doing that your state, make sure they're not buying 393 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: up our land. But it's also you mentioned Ciffius, that's 394 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: the Committee on Foreign Investment the United States, and states 395 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: have their own versions are starting to set up their 396 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: own versions of this. Governor Nope. And I think what's 397 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: important is that Ciffious and these these internal organizations that 398 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: are in place to protect us. They've really got to 399 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: get their act together too, and not so that they 400 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: don't initially approve like that land purchase that went through 401 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: in North Dakota where it initially went through and got 402 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: Ciffius approval even though that was near military base, and 403 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: to really kind of rethink, Okay, maybe we should put 404 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: a pause on this Chinese land grab. Yeah. So people 405 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: have said to us that the bill that I'm bringing 406 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: in the legislature isn't necessary because there is a federal 407 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: siffious model. Well, the federal board signed off on the 408 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Or Dakota purchase. They said their hands were tied and 409 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: they couldn't take action to stop that purchase. So that's 410 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: why governors should have the ability to have a tool 411 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: at the state level where if that happens at the 412 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: federal level, we can still take action. We can still 413 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: do something about this kind of activity in our state. 414 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: And listen, we've got forty million acres in this country 415 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: that's owned by other countries right now. How much more 416 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: are we going to allow China to invest in purchasing 417 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: up our land before we do something that really stops 418 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: their agenda. We have seen since two thou and ten 419 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: to two and twenty China increase its purchases of land 420 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: in this country by five thousand, three hundred percent, So 421 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: they are aggressively buying land in the United States, and 422 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: they're doing that so that they can establish a foothold 423 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: to destroy it. Yes, I mean, and it's ultimately I mean, 424 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: we're still relied on what's being made in China, but 425 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: we could be relied on what's being made in our 426 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: own country but owned by China because of the assets. 427 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: I get. What scares me too, as we look at 428 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: the map of the world. You see it just the 429 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: last decade, the amount of ports that they've opened up 430 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: around the world. So this is not just unique to us. 431 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we're number one target for them, but you 432 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: look through Africa, you look in other parts of Asia, Europe. 433 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: They've got military ports, they have economic ports, you side 434 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: by side, sometimes simultaneous, all around the world. You tried 435 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: to batch us everywhere they can, and they're spending most 436 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: of their resources on their militaries. You tried get to 437 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: where we are or even surpasses. So Governor, let me 438 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: ask you this as it relates to that what Jordan 439 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: was just talking about, that is China's got this you know, 440 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: they got a world dominant view. That's that's their goal 441 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: of the Chinese Communist Party. Now the current document of 442 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: the White House, President Biden says he's not going to 443 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: view them as an adversary. He's going to view them 444 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: as a competitor. What I said earlier is correct. They 445 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: don't view watches. Of course, they view us as a competitor, 446 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: but they view us as an adversary. That's clear. Yeah, 447 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: they view us as a competitor for the title of 448 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: world dominating power. And for thousands of years, China has 449 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: existed and has wanted to stay at the top of 450 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: the food chain, and the United States bypass them some 451 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: time ago, and their goal is to take us down. Listen, 452 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: the only way China can achieve its goals is to 453 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: destroy the United States of America. So every day they 454 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: have proven that they're willing to put their people through pain, 455 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: They are willing to make the Chinese people suffer in 456 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: order to make that happen. In the United States, we 457 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: don't do that, And honestly, I don't even know. Our 458 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: public doesn't even like to be inconvenient by anything that 459 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: might slow down their day, So they I think they 460 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: don't think that's out that the United States is strong 461 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: anymore and is willing to sacrifice in order to make 462 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: sure that we stay free and that we stay liberated, 463 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: and that's why they're taking such aggressive action to completely 464 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: infiltrate our way of lives. I appreciate you being with 465 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: us on the Hannity program. And I also want to 466 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: say it's been an honor for us, for me and 467 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: Jordan and for the ACLJ to have represented you in 468 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: a couple of major cases on the pro life issue. 469 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: And we really, uh, it really is an honor for 470 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: us to represent you and your great state. And thanks 471 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: for being with us today. Oh, thank you. You guys 472 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: have been fantastic. I appreciate it. Very good. You know, 473 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: it's very interesting in talking to the governor. The governor 474 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: munication right off the bat, that is just she I 475 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: was gonna say that she is the chief executive of 476 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: her state. Not a call from the White House, China. 477 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: They can't. They can certainly call South Dakota. Her got 478 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: our own call from her own National Guard folks, which 479 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: did the right thing by Calleague. It's just you know, 480 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: right there, the part, the plague part, if that's what 481 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: they're doing is plague partisan politics here because she's having 482 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: to be a republican governor. That's what we're talking about. 483 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: This is much bigger than republican democrat. This is taking 484 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: on a huge adversary. I will say the word yea, 485 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: and you better be united as a country because you 486 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: might have to make sacrifices to take on China. And 487 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: that means figure out what we do with trade, figure 488 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: out what we do with the manufacturer and our own 489 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: infrastructure which is failing as well. Yeah, I'll tell you this, 490 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: And like I said earlier, Jordan and I have done 491 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: legal work in China. We have been to Beijing. We 492 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: know what we're dealing with when we're dealing with it. 493 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: They view the United States, they view freedom as an 494 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: adversary and we just happened as a country to represent freedom. 495 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: But when you look at it at the end of 496 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: the day, the bottom line is they resent liberty. They 497 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: resent freedom. There is no First Amendment, freedom of speech, 498 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: freedom of religion, free press, nothing. So that's are they 499 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: the enemy? Yeah, they're the enemy. Now that doesn't necessarily 500 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: mean you've got to be in a military conflict, but 501 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: if you're failed to identify who your opponent is. And 502 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: this is in every court case you ever do, and 503 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: we've done them all over the world. If you fail 504 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: to identify who your opponent is, you'll lose, and America 505 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: does not need to lose. We're going to be right 506 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: back with more of the Sean Hannity Program. I am 507 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: thrilled that Jordan and I are getting to sit in 508 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: for Sean as he's traveled today. 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We 538 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: stand for freedom and liberty, exactly what John Hannity stands for. 539 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: And Sean's been a friend for a long time. Well, 540 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: last week on the broadcast, we got to host for 541 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: Sean and we talked to you about a case, and 542 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: I want to give you a victory report here. We're 543 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: gonna get into it a little bit later and more 544 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: in depth. But we represent a group of students who 545 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: were participating in the March for Life. They were denied 546 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,479 Speaker 1: when they went into the Smithsonian and National Archives museums. 547 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: They were not only harassed, they were threatened basically with 548 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: arrest and they were gonna be written up. They were 549 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: cursed at by some of the security personnel, federal security 550 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: personnel because they had on a shirt that said we 551 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: are the pro life generation. Now, what happened was five hundred, 552 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: more than five hundred of you joined the ACLJ last week, 553 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: more than five hundred of you this week. Because of 554 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: your support of our work at the ACLJ, we've got 555 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: a permanent, a preliminary should say preliminary injunction against the 556 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: National Archives because of the harassment of these students. Interesting thing, 557 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: the National Archives are staying there in the press a lot. 558 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: Here's my theory. The National Archives does not do a 559 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: very good job of tracking classified documents of presidents, former presidents, 560 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: and former vice presidents, but they can harass American citizens 561 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: students because they had a shirt on that said we 562 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: are the pro life generation and they were harassed for that. 563 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: We got an injunction against him, and that's because so 564 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: many of you stood with us at the ACLJ. Let 565 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: me encourage you. We're in another one we call matching 566 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: moment again, which means anytime you make a donation to 567 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: us and join the ACLJ, we get a matching gift. 568 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: Let me encourage you to go to ACLJ dot org. 569 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: That's ACLJ dot org. You can join the ACLJ right there. 570 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: It's tax deductible. Any amounts you donate, we get a 571 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: matching gift board. We've got coming up. Tulci Gabbert. Boy, 572 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 1: we want to talk. We got a lot to talk 573 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: drive owner since she was eighteen years old, and we 574 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about with Tulci Gabbert. 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