WEBVTT - #495 - Ice Cube 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.280 Yo, what's cracking this your homeboy? Ice Cbe Hotstyles, My style, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.320 Jo Styles, Die Soule. We're doing it big right here 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.840 on the Bootleg Cavs podcast. I was about to say show. 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:14.600 Before we start the episode, Man, I got to remind 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.000 everybody that we are on the radio in eighty cities 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.200 every single day across the country. Man Real ninety two 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.200 to three every day Monday through Friday in Los Angeles, 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.760 Wild ninety four to one in Tampa, Kkfur and Phoenix. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.639 We're all over the place, Miami, Vegas. We can go 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.319 on and on. We want to give a shout out 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:36.080 to our latest affiliate. Shout out to Knoxville, Tennessee, Man 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.680 Hot one oh four point five for being the latest 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.680 city to join the Bootleg cav Show network. All right now, 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:43.640 I don't ever really talk about the radio show on 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.360 the podcast, keep them separate. But if you want to 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.280 listen to the radio show, you can click the link 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:49.360 in the bio for a list of all the cities 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:53.040 you can listen to at. Yeah, that makes sense. Let's 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:58.840 get to the interview, Yo, Bootleg cav show Man special 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:03.040 guests in here a living legend, one of the greatest 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.319 of all time, one of the founding fathers of the 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.360 hip hop that I grew up on, the freest thinker 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.640 in hip hop. In twenty twenty four, Ice Cube the 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:12.479 don Mega Well. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.600 Yes, what's happening with man, it's an honor. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.280 We did a conversation before, but it was with the 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.160 Mount Wesmore guys. Yeah, so it's good to have you, 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.080 like on the one on one you got new music out, 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.039 you know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, yeah, that's dope. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.480 It's my ego is it sounds like vintage Cube. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.600 Good. That's what I wanted. Thank you, That's what I wanted. Yeah. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.600 I feel like when like, you know, people like I 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.640 grew up listening to try to chase like a current record, 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.039 It's just it's just like that's not why, like we 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:41.160 love you, you know what I'm saying. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:48.760 Yeah, you know, being in the game for almost forty years, 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:54.000 that's great. It's and I've seen waves come and go 0:01:55.440 --> 0:02:02.160 and I just you know around the Laugh Now Cry 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:13.839 Later record six. Yeah, right before that record, I was like, man, 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:19.080 when I pick up a I need a Baker record, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:20.560 I want it to sound like I need. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.600 A Baker, right, you don't want it to sound like that. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:30.600 She chased Joyeah, so I felt like, well, ice Ce 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.679 fans are the same way, you know, when they pick 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:37.800 it up, they wanted to be cointessential, authentic ice Cube. 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:46.400 And so that's what I that's what I've been worry about, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.640 worrying about delivering, you know what I mean When I 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.360 say worrying, I'm not like I'm worried, but he's what 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:58.160 I've been focused, you know, doing records. That's you know, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:02:58.880 totally me. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.800 I wonder too, because like you're you're always, you know, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.919 growing up. I feel like people could listen to your 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.840 albums for kind of like a current narration of the world. Yeah, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.600 through you know, through your eyes at least. And I 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.840 do feel like the world is like in a crazy 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.520 place right now, at least in the United States. It 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.280 feels like everyone's losing their fucking mind. Are you, like, 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.200 are you getting back to some of the like, you know, 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.240 addressing some of the shit that's happening that people are 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:28.359 freaking out about or. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.400 I believe so. I believe so in my own way though, 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:39.880 right you know, it's really about making good records at 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:45.240 the end of the day, and you don't want like 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:53.040 the things you're trying to show or highlight to get 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.960 in the way of a good record, right, so you 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:04.560 have to find ways to to uh barrier is the 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.720 wrong word, but to fit it. It's you feed your 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:14.560 dog medicine without a doubt because people are not buying 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:22.000 music for a history lesson or uh. You know, it's 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:28.320 not a social studies experiment. It's music. So that the 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.120 magic buying your music. But the magic is to make 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.040 it bad, make it bump if you both the rhyme's 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.520 dope for sure, to make it a good song at 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:44.680 the end of the day, because it could be for me, 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:50.800 it could be for any artists. Nobody want to be 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.599 preached to in their music. You know, they want to 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.839 they want to rock with something they can relate to. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.159 But I think it's about relatability. Yeah, and if and 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.680 if you take that and you know, apply it, then 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:05.800 it's a plus. If not, if the records are good, 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:06.440 the records are. 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.960 Good, Yeah, it's it's about now. Of course, I got 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.720 a few records that's you know, all about me. You know, 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.560 I'm an MC so I mean it's my ego, but 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.680 I think everybody should celebrate their ego. Yeah, you know, 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:22.440 it's something that. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.240 I feel like I feel like we've gotten away from 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.560 like everyone's so like worried about you know. I feel 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.000 like you kind of said it at the end of 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.800 the record. You said, like people are gonna get triggered. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.919 Yeah, Like so what it's good for them to be triggered. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.880 Let them know you here for sure, Like you can't 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:46.240 be docile, that won't get you nowhere. You have to. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.480 It's cool, you know, as long as you don't go overboard, 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.360 you know, but you gotta, you know, let people know 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.880 you here. Why are you unique? Why are you you? 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.960 I think back, and I'm like, could ice Cube from 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:08.880 nineteen ninety one release Death Certificate today and not get canceled. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:11.280 Or like Lethal Injection? 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.040 I think it's songs like like kve Bitch or like 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.479 Black Korea, Like, yeah, I don't know if these songs 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.960 could exist these days without people like you know, you'd 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.080 have a TMZ article written with like twenty like they'd 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.440 be on an MSNBC running you through the Mud or something. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:25.640 You know. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:33.440 Yeah, I mean I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't necessarily 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:42.279 think about that, you know. To me, people's reaction and 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:48.159 the music that they or whatever makes them react from 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.080 entertainment is usually a good thing, right, as long as 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.000 you get a reaction. Oh yeah, you want to You 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.800 don't want a record to play and there's nothing. Yeah, 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:57.880 you want to. You want to. 0:06:57.960 --> 0:06:59.600 You want to strike a motion. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.640 Without a doubt. You know. That's to me, the reason 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:10.280 people like music because it strikes emotional chords and so 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:17.280 you know, nobody's stopping me from saying anything. So it's 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:21.840 all about the artists having the courage to do it 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:26.880 and not worry about so called being canceled. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll say this, man, you ended up 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.640 being right about a lot of shit, especially like you know, 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.040 I'll say this, like you're You're the main reason I 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.080 didn't get the second JAB. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.640 Man, that's good. 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.000 I got the first one. But when I was like, wait, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:46.040 Q passed up on nine million dollars, I'm I gotta 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:47.120 do something. I got to look. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:54.360 Into this, you know, And I didn't need the JAB, So. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.400 Thank you for that, though cute, oh no problem saved 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.320 me from a potential vaccine injury or you know, mild 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:00.320 card dice is I'm. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.360 Glad you didn't. You know, if you didn't need it, 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:04.680 you shouldn't get it. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.160 That was a crazy time though, because you know, like 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.120 at the end of the day, like you had kind 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:14.320 of become the the poster child for like anti vacs. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.400 And I'm curious as somebody who had the FBI come 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.120 after them at a certain point in time in their 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.200 career with n w A in the eighties, Tipper Gore 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:26.120 et cetera to having like mainstream media and like social 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.760 media come after you for something else, obviously. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.760 Totally different things. What were the difference. 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.520 Between dealing with those two things and what was crazier? 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:37.080 Well, I mean, for clarity, I'm not anti vacts. 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.840 Right, but but you can get the face of it. 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.440 Well yeah that list just like RFK is not anti VACCX. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.440 Yeah. Well you know, but so you have so you 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.439 have to for anybody who thinks make it make it clear. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.120 I've been vaccinated before as a kid, you know, with 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.840 you know all the ship they give you that course, 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:01.680 but no, don't take flu shots. But but you know, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:07.319 the childhood vaccinations, I've gotten them before. Okay, but those 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:13.199 were studied for years. This is something new six months 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:23.880 fast track bullshit. So the difference was me, I knew 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.800 it was nothing they could do to make me do it. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.880 Outside holding me down and and and sticking it in 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.680 my arm right now. And I felt like nobody was 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:45.479 gonna do that. So, you know, I knew that bad press, 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.160 people coming down on you, people talking ship. I've had 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:55.679 that before, and that don't that don't kill you. I mean, 0:09:55.720 --> 0:10:00.240 at the end of the day in a flood, you 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:04.679 want to be a tree. I love that. You know 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:11.760 what I'm saying. You want to be steady while everything is. Yeah, 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:17.160 so stand your ground, you know, stand on your beliefs. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.240 Let the chips fall what they may. I was willing 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:26.599 to take, you know, any kind of you know, consequence 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:32.320 for for you know, standing on what I believe would 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.880 actually harm me and not help me. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.760 I love that. Did you feel like because since then, 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.800 I'm not sure from the from at least my recognition, 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.120 I haven't seen any new Cube movies. I know you're 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.120 working on it, like I think Warner Brothers just greenlit 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.800 a New Friday or that's even works, right, But did 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:56.680 that affect that, the whole hysteria around your decision, did 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.160 it affect you getting new movies after after everybody you 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:01.559 realized it wasn't that big of a deal. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.080 You never know, you know, you you never really know 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:12.280 why movies don't happen or didn't happen or or what. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.720 So you know, I got my hunch that it probably did. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.200 You know. The first movie that we lost was the 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:25.760 one you talked about, which was a movie I was 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:31.160 doing with Jack Black called oh hell No. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.120 And Buddy Cop stuff. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.520 No, no, it was. It was. It was a comedy, 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.320 but it wasn't Buddy Cop. But but that was the 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:47.360 first one. You know, I wasn't gonna go on nobody's 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.640 movie set that was wanting me to take the jab, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.640 so I probably lost out on a few. I was 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:57.520 in the middle of shooting a movie, uh, the Clarissa 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:04.240 Shiells boxing story. I was the trainer and we were 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.160 shooting in Canada, so I couldn't go back and shoot 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.560 because I wasn't Canada was not it was, Yeah, it 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:16.920 was real strict. So lost that one. And and you 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:21.880 know when the movies came back, you know, I was 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:26.120 offered to do a movie, but it was during the strike. 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.160 So now, so you don't want to cross picket line. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.680 No, no, even though I had an exempt. Now I 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.679 had a SAG exemption. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.000 Just the optics. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.160 Yeah, but what is an exemption doing the strike, either 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.080 we striking or we not? What are we doing? An exemption? 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.760 To me, was was useless. I wasn't. I would never 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.959 take an exemption doing a strike. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.760 Someone told me recently that even though like that strike 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.320 was about AI, like they recently just struck some like 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.240 a ideal like the movie companies. That kind of made 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.800 it like kind of crazy that that strike kept all 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:01.400 those people out of work all that time. Anyway, but 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:02.800 I don't know that. You probably don't want me. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:10.600 You know, AI, You're gonna have artificial entertainment now, it's wild. Yeah, 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:12.640 have you artificial fun? 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:16.720 Have they made any artificial intelligence songs with your voice? 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.520 Because that's the thing they have that's gotta be wild. Yeah. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.480 It's the wackyt shit you ever want to hear. Terrible. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.600 I mean, it's you know, for shits and giggles. But 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:32.880 I couldn't see nobody buying it. I couldn't see nobody. No, No, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.200 I don't think turned on by it to the point 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.920 where they where it becomes a hit wreck. I think. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.840 I think what's gonna end up happening in the future 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.600 is when artists die, maybe one hundred years from now. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:47.840 You know, there's going to. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.800 Be like, but who wants that show? Nobody? 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.160 But you never know, maybe in fifty years an artist 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.120 might be like, look, I got this book of rhymes. 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.560 When I pass away, have a that's. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.440 Still you know, you pick an artist. It is why 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:10.080 you love different artists, actors, uh, you know, singers, you know, 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:17.800 especially songwriters, rappers, this, directors. You like them because of 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:22.240 the choices they make. Right, you know what I'm saying. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:27.280 The choices they make is what you respect. So when 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:32.080 you take them out of the choice making, you're really 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:38.240 not getting the artists work. You know what if they 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:43.520 got prints, they do a print song and got him 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.040 singing some shit, he would never sings saying some things 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:48.040 he would never say. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.360 You know what's funny is when Pop died and all 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.120 those albums were coming out. Yeah, and I remember there 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:55.800 was an album called Oil to the Game and it 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.640 had like fifty se jah Rule and all this shit, 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.560 and I just remember being like, I mean, like it's cool, 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.080 but like I don't know, Poko, it is song with 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:05.920 these guys, so it felt it just felt weird. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.720 It is weird. It is as opposed to. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.440 Like putting him on an album with like people he 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.920 actually was peers with, you know, but it's like, Okay, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.640 who's hot, who's current, Let's throw them on these unreleased 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:19.520 TUPAC records, reproduce them, and then it's like it's it's 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.640 it's like almost like a blend or a mash up 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.600 mixtape as opposed to like an album. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:28.040 Yeah, and you don't get the same feeling from it, 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:34.000 not only because you know, you know, they were not 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:38.520 there and the creation of this, so you don't even 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.360 know if these are his choices or these are records 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.560 that he even wanted out. That's the key. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.920 Everything not everything that gets not everything that gets recorded 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:48.400 is supposed to hit hit hit. 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:52.800 Consumption because some of it is it's just ideas. Some 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:57.280 of it is, you know, not good enough for the public. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:06.000 Some of it is you know, whack. You know. At 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:07.880 the end of the day, it's a reason why he 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.040 hasn't been released. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.320 I love the remix that just dropped because I look 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:18.160 at Killer Mike as a modern day ice Cube. Uh. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.280 Killer Mike is one of my favorite rappers of all time. Uh, 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.880 one of the best guys. Somebody else who's a free thinker, Yeah, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.760 somebody who's always just kind of like been a man 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.560 of the people I love Killer Mike Man and it 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.800 was just so dope to hear you guys and him 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.240 pay homage to you in his verse. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.680 Yeah, that was amazing. You know, I didn't know he 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:41.000 was gonna do that, So that was you know, straitsalttle 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.160 him and Buster you know, gave it up for sure. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:48.320 That was none beloved. You know, respect them both, you know, 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:53.920 as MC's in the game, they've always you know, played 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:58.920 to win and never played the game cheap for sure, 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:03.920 never played the music or what it's all about cheap. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.280 I don't look at them dudes as you know, just 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.639 money grabbers, you know what I mean. It's correct. The 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.679 love is pure. So it's always good to get on 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:21.159 the track with some ferocious him sees that. Uh, you know, 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.320 make sure you have your game stepped up. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.480 Yo, are you your your son is one of my 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.440 favorite Twitter follows because I'm a diehard wrestling fan. Yeah, 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:30.520 and he is like. 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:32.720 He's in it. Yeah, he the man. 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.400 He's like a real wrestling like he's got a podcast, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:37.960 like he's he's. 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.479 On it, like man, it's wrestling on every day at 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.480 the house. One of those. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.640 Do you follow like anything that's going on, Like are 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.600 you like, just just because it's on, Like, are you 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.800 like yo, So, what's going on with the bloodline right now? 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.119 You know, I'm trying to keep up, you know. He 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.239 he he uh, you know, he's showing me what's up. 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:01.520 But he he goes between different air so he's looking at. 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:02.680 You can watch the old ship. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:07.560 Yeah, the old you know, uh w w F you 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.640 know w c W. He's like keep up. He all 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.960 over the place with it. So it's hard to keep 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.800 up with who's current and is this a current Max watching? 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.600 But you know, I'm I'm happy that he's passionate and 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.800 that he's able to talk about it, you know, you 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.560 want to You got a podcast, so he able to 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.440 talk to some of the biggest names in the game. 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.239 And no, I think it's and he's really good and 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:37.159 go you know deep into you know, the behind the 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.159 the you know the act. I forgot what he called it. 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:45.439 It's you know character, Yeah, what's the character when you 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.760 in character all the time? Yeah. 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.359 It's funny because I was following his account on Twitter 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:51.639 for a while and I thought it was like a 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.280 parody account because I was like, there's no way ice 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.800 Cube Son is like one of the Biggest Wrestling. I'm 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:58.840 like the same dude from like Den of Thieves, Like 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:00.000 he loves this ship. 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.439 For real, loves it for real, for real, you know. 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:04.840 And then the podcast I was like, oh, ship, he 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.120 really is about this ship for real. 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.479 I remember when he was he was still in uh 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:14.640 I think he was still in elementary and I went 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.120 to go pick him up from school. Just take him 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.000 out of school middle of the day, you know, I 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:23.560 would love it. Yeah. I used to do that in 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.719 the middle of exactly all that, you know, pick him 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.399 up in the middle of the day because I know, 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.639 you know when they say your parents is here to 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:35.879 get you, you know, everybody grabbing ship. They gone. So 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.800 picked him up, were rolling, didn't tell him where we 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.800 was going. We didn't go home, so I know he 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.600 was tripping out. Didn't tell him where we was going, 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.920 and I was like, as we got close, I was like, well, 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.320 I don't want him to freeze. I want him to 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:56.040 you know, have his ship together. I said, you want 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.520 to meet the Rock today, you know, and he was 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:02.280 like what he just couldn't believe it that we was 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.600 on our way to go talk to the Rock and 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.840 we went and met him, you know, out here and uh, 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.480 Venice and uh sat down. We ate. 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.000 It was just you know, tall Fire and your kids. 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:16.200 You're sitting there, sitting. 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.119 There and uh what he remembers, he ordered the burger 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.399 in the rock ordered the burger. So he was like, 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:24.160 we got the same thing. Yeah, exactly, you know, geeking 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:28.520 off that. So to see him now being able to 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.399 hit all the events, know all the people. That's so 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.000 if you love and be able to do a podcast, 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.000 be and starting to become one of the biggest names 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:44.159 and yeah, you know, and definitely and uh, you know, 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.280 speaking and commentating on the wrestling. It's cool. 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.080 I always was curious. So straight out of Compton and 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:52.640 Easy does it came out in the same. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.600 Year kind of, you know, a few months apart. 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.280 Right, so very close close to each other. Yeah, when 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.680 you guys were working on like was there was all 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:04.520 that shit getting worked on at the same time, and 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:06.280 it was it was there like whiteboards in the studio 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:07.920 or like that's going on easy Ship. This is going 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.800 on straight out of Compton? Like how or were they 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:11.640 separate sessions? 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:17.879 Like well, what happened? You know, we started to you know, 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.720 Easy was blowing up, so it was all about Okay, 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.399 you know, we had multiple records on them. Then we 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.880 had some n w A records that he was on, 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.120 and the whole thing was like, let's put all our 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:36.800 energy into the Easy Does the album. I was still 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.440 uh through the first half of the album. I was 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:42.760 still in Arizona, so I would only be able to 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:43.479 work on it on them. 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.639 We're going to school out there, right. It wasn't Debrye, 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:46.240 but it was like. 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:50.800 No, it was damn there, Like it was called Phoenix 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:52.399 Institute of Technology. I just know. 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:54.120 I remember when I was a kid, I always thought 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:55.560 you went to debry I was like man. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:22:01.000 To but it was low low, a low budget and 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.520 the Rye and Ship, yeah it was. It was definitely, 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:09.800 but so just getting it together and making sure it 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:13.320 was dope, and then like once we had it and 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.919 it was done, then we just started to focus on 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.920 the n w A record on the album because we 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.359 knew we had we had some dope singles out by 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:29.040 then we had Dope man, now we had Gangster, so 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:33.000 it was like, you know, let's get ready to do 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:34.600 a whole album on the group. 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.720 It's just so crazy to think that all of that 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.359 was being worked on around the same Yeah, like what 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.280 a special time that you guys didn't even understand was 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:44.960 like going. 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.920 To change the trajectory of like everything, not at all. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:54.639 We thought we were gonna be straight underground locals, like we're. 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:55.520 Gonna crack off in LA. 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.639 It's just that's that's we thought that's the only place 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:02.680 we about to jump off. Visit right in LA where 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.520 they understand what we're talking about. Because we didn't know 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:08.320 the rest of the world was paying attention with this 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:11.480 kind of stuff. When did you guys realize that you 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.240 made raider hats a thing? Like when we would go 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:17.400 out of town to other cities. 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.520 They could be in Wyoming and they'd be raider hats 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:21.280 hit the Yeah, we. 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:25.880 Would hit the foot locker and they would be like, man, 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:27.760 all the raider stuff is gone. 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.080 Yeah, why do you even have it in stock We're 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:31.800 in Chicago or something. 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:35.119 Because of us. It was like they they would be like, 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.080 all of us gone, So get to the show and 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.640 everybody out there in raider hats, and we in Denver 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:47.160 when you know these different places that had their own teams, 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:49.520 but it was all raider gear out there. 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:54.879 I always wanted to ask you America's most wanted was 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.000 I remember it got five mics in the source because 0:23:58.040 --> 0:23:59.800 when I was I was born in eighty seven, so 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:01.520 I was one years old with Straight Out of compt 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.439 came out. But I like went back and like like 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:04.840 study all the five MIC albums. 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:04.960 You know. 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.080 Yeah, but to think about like kind of where you 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:12.359 were in your career coming out of the group, feuding 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:17.119 with the group, having this pressure of like having to 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:21.400 deliver your first thing outside of the group, but then 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:25.240 also being like brave enough to be like I'm gonna 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:29.560 go tap in with like New York and and you 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.679 know and the Bomb Squad and PE and these guys. 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:35.160 What was the pressure like for. 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:39.040 You And how nervous were you to work working on 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.000 that project because you have to kind of understand the 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.320 narrative that's happening, like I gotta make sure whatever I 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.440 do is better than whatever they're doing, you know what 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:46.920 I'm saying. 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.679 I didn't really look at it like that. You know. 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:53.119 When I left the group, you know, I left for nothing, 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.400 So I didn't. I didn't. I was like, damn, now 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:59.920 I gotta go find a deal, right, I don't even 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:04.679 have a label. And so I went and talked to 0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.680 Brian Turner at priority. Shout out the priority man. Yeah, 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.920 shout out to priority. Shout out to Brian Turner, Mark 0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:13.840 surround me who don't get a lot of a lot 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:19.840 of uh, you know, a lot of mention. So he's like, 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.920 there's nothing you can do to keep the group together. 0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.240 I'm like, no, it's over. He said, well, we still 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:33.280 want you, so we will give you a solo budget 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:38.600 and deal for a solo album. So that was, like, man, 0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.960 the best news I had heard since I left the group, 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.400 because now you got somebody to go that deal. Now 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.439 I can do my own way, you know, where I 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:50.680 can be the head producer on it and what I want. 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.600 To go and wherever, like whatever ideas you want to 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:53.840 get across. You don't have to clear with it. 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.160 I don't have to clear with with Dre and easy 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.159 is unapologetically you know, argue with Rinning a little bit. 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:03.360 Y're gonna beal and ship. So I could just do 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:07.520 what I want. And now I got uh it's me 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:13.919 and it's sir Jenks who was he was soaking up 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.920 a lot of game from you know, from the time 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.560 I started start. We started hanging with the Recond crew, 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:24.359 and and then the Recond crew kind of dismantled, and 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:29.880 then we put n W A together and he's real 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:34.560 competitive with his cousin Dre right, real competitive. So I 0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:38.880 knew he was ready to produce and ready to show 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:39.560 what he got. 0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.600 Yeah, like this guy, his like his cousin is the 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.280 biggest or at least you know. 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:48.560 Yeah, and he did. I mean, he delivered, and so 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.960 I said, uh, but he wasn't ready to do a 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:58.600 whole project. You know, he was ready to to contribute. 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.640 And you know, he has some tracks that he actually 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.399 produced on the America's Most Wanted. Everybody give credit to 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:09.320 the Bomb Squad, but Janmes, did you know once upon 0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:14.080 time the projects a song called the Bomb It's a 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:21.400 Man's World. So he you know, we we knew, you know, 0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:27.520 we wanted to have other producers for other tracks. You know, 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:31.000 we didn't know we were gonna have one other team 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.600 working on the whole album. We thought, let's get tracks 0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:39.040 from here here right there. And I was talking to 0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:45.240 Chuck d throughout the breakup because we had met on 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:50.120 the road. We met in Las Vegas at the Thomas 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:54.000 and Max Center on some shows we had did together 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.960 Easy and n W A Republic Enemy, and then we 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.960 became real cool exchange numbers. So when I was going 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.399 through the breakup, I would call him, you know, really 0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.919 for some big brother advice, you know what I should do. 0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.560 He was trying to keep us together. He was like, man, 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.240 this group is too important for sure. Got to try 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:17.280 to keep it together. Cube. But also at the time, 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:22.280 I wanted Dre to produce my solo record, but easy 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.560 and and Jerry vetoed. 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.280 That what what Yeah, that wasn't gonna get allowed. 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.200 Yeah, they vetoed that even though Dre wanted to do it, 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.119 because me and Dre was actually still on cool. 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:36.760 Terms, even though publicly there was the feud, but it wasn't. 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.880 It wasn't it wasn't a few yet. It was just 0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.800 a breakup. Yeah, But they dissed me before No Vassiline 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:45.840 or one hundred Miles and Running. 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.880 But No vascanline was like, you know, the greatest this record. 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.440 Yeah, that was that was a comeback. That was the 0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.680 great after after the Niggas for Life album where they 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.840 dissed me more and said they was gonna do ship 0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.320 to me with broomsticks and all this kind of ship. So, 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:08.560 you know, long story short, I'm looking for Sam Severn. 0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:11.440 I'm in I'm in New York looking for Sam Severn 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.959 because he did the third Base album and they beats 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:20.719 was banging, yeah, and he stooped me up. But I 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:24.160 saw Chuck in New York at Depth Jam and then 0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.640 we connected and he was doing the record that night 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.840 with Big Daddy King called Burn Hollywood Burn. Oh yeah, 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:32.360 and he was like, do you want to be on 0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:36.400 this record? I was yeah, it would let the world 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:40.680 know you solo. I was like, hell yeah, went down 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.720 there and recording the record. That's when Hank Shockley was there. 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:47.040 Keith Shockley and I started talking about him trying to 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.520 get my album produced, and they was like, we'll do 0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:54.040 that whole thing. It was like, I felt like I 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.560 was in good hands. How could I miss with the 0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.200 best producers in hip hop at the time, you know, 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.880 And so I felt like, our, I'm in good hands. 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:06.560 If I can't get the best on the West, I'm 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:07.880 gonna get the best on these. 0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:11.280 That shit's crazy and as a classic, and it's crazy 0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.800 too because you were kill it will drop the same. 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.480 Year right yeah, later on that year. 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.040 Yeah, you were like you got that deal and you 0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:20.640 were like, I'm fucking active. 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.480 Yeah, and we had records left over from the America's 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.080 Most Won and we're like, what we're gonna do with 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.480 these records. I don't want to wait a whole other years. 0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:33.320 Let's put something out and then and then Chinks had 0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:37.960 did just this crazy remix to Endangered Species. So having 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.600 that and the other records that we had, then I 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.880 thought of that jacking for beats idea. 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:44.800 One of my favorite album covers was the Kid when 0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:45.440 You with the Gun? 0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:50.640 Yeah, and then Uh even a song that never gets mentioned, 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.960 Dead Homies ended up becoming a big song for me 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.720 at the time too. After Kill It Will. 0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:02.479 Records, Jacking for beats you were like the first because 0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.640 you got to think about like mixtape culture and kind 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.920 of t I has a jack in for Beats freestyle 0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:13.040 that was legendary, Like if did you like, were you 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.520 purposely only grabbing shit you knew you could clear? 0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:20.920 No, I was grabbing everything I liked that year. So 0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.640 like some of the dopest beats right came out that year. 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.680 But back then you couldn't just go on YouTube and 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.960 typing something something instrumental. And I'm not sure even back 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.600 then we had records. We was in record pools. We okay, 0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.400 he was getting all the records, so we had you know, 0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:37.560 it was instrumentals on each. 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.640 Would you who if you if you could pick like 0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:40.480 three beats. 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.200 Right now, if you did a twenty twenty four jack 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.320 and for beats current beats? Is there anything that comes 0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:45.880 to mind that you would you would you would hop on? 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:50.920 Oh man, I like us, I mean that's that's it, 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.720 That's what would be uh man, I love that twenty 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:58.840 one Savage Red Run want it all while we have 0:31:59.000 --> 0:31:59.640 bread Crumb. 0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.480 Yeah that's hard. 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:06.680 And uh man, let me think about what other beats 0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:15.040 that got me going crazy this year? M them two 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:16.720 are the two that come to mind. 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:22.440 Do you look at uh death Certificate as like your Illmatic, 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:29.320 your magnum opus of an album? 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.280 Yeah, I mean it's it's pretty both. You know America's 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:40.040 most and Death Certificate are pretty you know, epic records. 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.080 You know, they're like my Citizen Kane, so. 0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:45.440 Just like you're left and right hand. 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:53.800 Yeah, it's uh amazing time in music. You know how 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:59.600 those records was put together, very entertaining records. 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.320 Captivating, like the energy just captivated, Like when you like 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:06.280 listen to like Summer Vacation, you're like Damn. I feel 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.239 like like I wasn't there, but I felt like I 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:10.960 felt like that was like the energy of it. 0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:17.240 Yeah, it was the energy at the time. And yeah, amazing, 0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:18.440 amazing records. 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.760 You've you've talked about your relationship with John Singleton at 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:26.240 with but I'm curious, how were you tapped in it 0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:29.920 all to Snowfall, which was kind of his last thing 0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:35.040 that he not a lot, not a lot in Snowfall 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:40.120 because obviously he passed away. Yeah, I mean even before that, 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:44.920 you know, he just had a lot of issues with 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:51.680 the with the the station, the FX or something and 0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.520 people running the show, and he couldn't really do it 0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.080 the way he might have been exactly how he wanted 0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:01.960 to do it. And you know, John Singleton is at 0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.719 his best when he can do what he feels and 0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:10.080 he's not harnessed. And so I don't want to I 0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.000 don't want to look at the TV version of It's 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:14.759 almost like if you were gonna watch it, you would 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.160 wanted to have watched it without knowing all that, like 0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:17.680 going to. 0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:21.160 It blindly, right, Yeah, but you know I knew. 0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:25.759 Like I watched it not knowing that, Like I mean, 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.720 obviously you kind of knew it was based off Freeway 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:29.799 with Ross, right, but like I didn't know that, Like 0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.399 there was like this thing where you know, I guess 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:34.839 he wanted he was he wanted to get some sort 0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:36.360 of credit, you know, Like it was kind of like 0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:40.399 based on my life. Loosely, I already watched. 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.960 It's a lot of people out there with the saying, right, 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:47.239 that's fair. It's just the most famous one. To be fair, 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:52.640 You you bring dope in your neighborhood and you make 0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:53.960 a lot of money. 0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:55.880 And at the time the CIA was providing it. 0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.879 Yeah, you make a lot of money, but you're gonna 0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:00.600 fuck up the neighborhood. 0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:04.360 Yo, when you you and Pooh wrote Friday. 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.760 Because Friday's one of the most pivotal. 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.920 Moments in my life as a child, I talk like 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:17.319 smoky as a as a white child in Arizona. Yeah, 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.960 for at least a two year period. I mean I 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:22.719 was like eight years old when that movie came out, 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.600 and that movie literally changed my life. I know the 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.880 entire movie by heart, as a lot of other people 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:35.480 do that, Like some of the scenes, did you understand 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.880 how they were gonna translate? Like you got knocked the 0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:39.680 fuck out man? 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:40.600 Oh yeah? 0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:45.680 Or or smoky smoke, an angel dust running down the 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:47.920 street while the dudes is bust Like did y'all understand 0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.560 like how crazy? Like like yo, this shit's gonna go off? 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:54.480 Like yeah, we knew it wasn't nobody in Hollywood like 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:59.560 us me and Pool. We knew you got your black 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.240 dudes in Hollywood, and you got your for real funny dudes. 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.600 But it ain't none of them like us. Ain't none 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:10.480 of them gonna come from this angle of comedy. 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:12.880 It was so good, just a little like just like 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.000 even like Pool with the chains, like my Mama change man, 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.560 Like there was just I just wonder like like that's 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:22.480 like one of the most brilliantly written like comedies of 0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:22.960 all time. 0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:28.280 And it's you know, it's here's why people love the movie. 0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:35.880 It's everybody can live a Friday, right like you and 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.440 your man and go out here, have a crazy Friday, 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.000 staying right in front of it, right in front of 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:47.320 y'all spot and smoke one and just watch and trip 0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:51.600 off come up and you know, just you know, anybody 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:57.720 can live at So it's very relatable. And what's what's 0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:01.799 memorable is is the day you all remember it's today 0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:06.160 that the Bully gets his ass with what's coming to everybody. 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:10.640 Remember whoever they have in their mind, and if they 0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.840 saw them get it, they remember that day how it 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.799 played out, and it's uh, it gives you a euphoria 0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:22.120 when you see that because nobody really likes it. 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.840 Bully, you know, was it was it like a difficult 0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.799 transition or was it easy for you to like go 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.719 from being one of the most prolific mcs and writers 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:35.120 on the music side to writing a movie that's a 0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:36.520 whole different format that. 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.760 Yeah, it wasn't easy. I ain't gonna say it was easy. 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:43.440 It was. I had never been to film school, I 0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:50.239 had never written the script. So actually John Singleton encouraged 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:54.239 me to write scripts when we was doing Boys in 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.680 the Hood. He said, when you're gonna write a script, cute, 0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.000 which caught me off guard because I was just trying 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.000 on the act. That was your first movie. Are you 0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.840 trying to suck these lines to man? Let alone write 0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.680 the script? Like, what are you talking about? He's like, 0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:11.680 you think he said you like doing Boys in the Hood. 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.600 I was like, yeah, man, it's good. You know, it's 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:17.359 cool shit write the script? You said, Uh, you think 0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:21.160 Hollywood got another movie for your ass out there. Hollywood 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.600 ain't got shipped for you. Man, if you want to 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:26.240 do movies, you're gonna have to write your own movies 0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:30.000 if you want to do them, and that that kind 0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.160 of was like, oh damn. And then he was like, 0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:36.320 you can do it. Cute because I see this the 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:41.520 music you write. You know, it's vivid. People can see it. 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:44.360 You can see the see play out in their heads. 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.160 So you can write a script. Man, You just gotta 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:53.919 understand the framework, parameters and what you got to get across. 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.520 And Friday the franchise has just been like the launching 0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:04.520 pad for like Chris Tucker, Mike Epps, Kat Williams, Uh. 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:04.919 Jerry Crew. 0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:07.200 A lot of times, the first people ever seen Bernie 0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:09.120 Mack was on the first Friday. A lot of people 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.200 didn't weren't watching. You know that in comedy, you know 0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.080 what I'm saying. So I'm sure cast in that movie 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.959 had to be just fun. Like I could just imagine, like. 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:18.759 Oh, we had a ball, you know. Once I knew 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.200 I got John Witherspoon, I knew we was gonna have 0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:22.040 a funny movie. 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:22.879 God rest his soul. 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:27.000 Man. Yeah, getting him to play my father in the 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:36.239 movie was a home run and getting them to seriously 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:41.520 look at Chris Tucker because originally Pool was supposed to 0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:45.440 play smoking DJ Pooh. We wrote it for us to 0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:50.680 do it, and then once Newline got involved with the movie, 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.839 they it was concerned he didn't have enough acting experience. 0:39:56.160 --> 0:40:02.279 So that's why he played red hm hmm. So it 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:08.800 was there was actual you know, they look poo is amazing. 0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.400 He would have been a double smoky too, without a doubted. 0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:18.920 The lines was there, you know, but uh, they were 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:24.680 trying to put in known actors to be smoky, like 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:31.320 non comedians Tommy Davidson name came up and other people 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:36.600 which I thought they were funny. But to me to 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:42.280 take this movie serious and to really have this movie 0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:48.920 catch you kind of off guard, I really wanted to 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:53.840 be the only known face in it. I wanted to folks. 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.520 I knew you would recognize with Jeana King and tiny, 0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:02.600 but as far as my guy right, I wanted to 0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:07.279 be a new, fresh face because nobody would come in 0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:10.200 the movie thinking live in color or you know, I 0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:14.840 already have their on what kind of funny he's gonna be. 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.640 It was just this was a new character like for 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:24.480 most people Chris Tucker is smoky Like, it's nothing before 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:25.880 that that they can really. 0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:27.680 Yeah, because even if you watch the Fifth Element, he 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.800 just played like a weird, like a different version of 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.920 smoky in the Fifth Element. Yeah, you know, so like 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.560 a sassy, smoky Fifth Element with Bruce Willis. 0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.440 And it's because you know, that's the first real thing 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:43.000 you've seen the man, and that's really what I wanted that. 0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:46.960 Effect facts, Yeah, it works. I want to jump ahead 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:51.160 a little. One of my favorite albums of all time 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:55.719 is bow Down Gangster Killer and Dobe Buelers Fucking just 0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:57.919 one of my favorite songs to ever be made. 0:41:58.600 --> 0:41:58.719 Uh. 0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:03.160 You guys were in this mix with Common when Common 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:05.480 dropped I Used to love Her? Yeah, and he had 0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.600 his verse that you guys reacted to on West Side Slaughterhouse. 0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:09.280 Yeah. 0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:11.279 Is it safe to say west Side Slaughterhouse was kind 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.160 of like the conception of West Side Connection. 0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:19.600 It was was now it was on. 0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:24.480 Yeah, I'm curious, did you guys take real offense to 0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.319 like when you heard I used to love Her? Like, 0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:29.600 what were your guys' thoughts? Like, because you guys are 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:31.600 motivated enough to put that record together. 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:36.560 I think what it was was we saw a wave coming. 0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:44.640 I think we had saw first before before we took 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:49.719 any offense to that record. It was records like fuck Compton, 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:55.120 they came out, Tim Dogg, Tim Dogg, and and so 0:42:56.280 --> 0:43:00.759 we felt like the more successful we got, the more 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.759 pot shots we were starting to hear from New York 0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:10.040 and starting. Yeah, it was it was called keep it real. 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.520 That's what they keep it real. We don't keep it real. 0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.080 This is real hip hop. We're keeping it real here. 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.480 So that was the kind of line in the sand 0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:23.680 between patting us on the back for being this new 0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:28.200 phenomenon to how many records these niggas gonna put out? 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:32.799 You know what I meant it first, but damn. And 0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:40.200 so we were starting to get pot shots, and I 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:43.840 think Common just got caught up in all that because 0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.960 Uh master As had did a record Caross slaughter House 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.560 where he was like, that's why we did West Side 0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.719 slaughter House because he was saying our records was just 0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.120 saying murder, murder, murder. 0:43:57.120 --> 0:44:01.960 Kill, kill, kill, And I mean, I know he's amazing, 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:03.880 but Born de Role is like, if you heard it, 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:05.480 you might think exactly. 0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:12.520 So we were starting to take offence, and you know, 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:16.400 at first, we was like, Yo, we're just now getting 0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:20.560 accepted in hip hop. Let us be cool, you know, 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:25.520 and not trip because we all know how to turn 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.680 a party out, and it's just gonna go bad. It 0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.000 ain't gonna be nobody, gonna have no funds. It's just 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:35.600 gonna go bad for us. But it was like, this 0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.880 is all we could take. You know, Somebody gotta somebody 0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:47.200 gotta stop this, or everything we've accomplished will be erased 0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:52.600 and negated and looked at as like just a blip 0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:57.960 on the hip hop radar. And I'm like, no, we 0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:05.200 have to solidify what we've done in hip hop, and 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:11.319 the way to do that is to band together under 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:12.760 this West Side umbrella. 0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:17.640 So the Bitch and You comes out. Yes, when you 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.680 first hear it, Yeah, how do you feel? 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.800 Well? I mean I had a record, It's a hard record. 0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:27.320 I had a record cock. I had a record cocked 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:33.319 and loaded and ready to attack. Okay. Then I get 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:38.000 a call from Minister Farrah con after this is after 0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.320 the Bitch and You drops, Yes, okay, But he caught 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.480 all the rappers together because he saw getting out of 0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:50.960 hand and basically was like, if y'all don't call some 0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:55.880 kind of truce with this. Somebody is gonna could die 0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:03.160 and not because as somebody from the West sidegunt tack 0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.920 com or somebody from Commons side gonna attack us. But 0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:15.640 now you have maybe a third party could do something 0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:19.239 to one of us and then we're gonna blame each other. 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:24.000 So when you beef in public, it gives you or not, 0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:29.560 it gives an opportunity for third party. And we was 0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:34.520 thinking government CIA to step in and kill one of us, 0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.720 hurt one of us, and then we're gonna. 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:40.200 Start blacken each other, incite this, divide and conquer. 0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:41.399 Yeah, So. 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:46.360 In the by the way, that's a real thing, without 0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:49.719 a doubt. That's all that's happened in different facets of 0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:52.640 the country over time, like and and to destroy other 0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:53.640 countries and coops and all. 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:58.600 It happens. For sure, it happened to the Nation Islam 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.640 with Malcolm X. They was beefing. Somebody come in and 0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:06.200 kill Malcolm X. Now one side blaming the other. Other. 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:10.960 Now that being said, it was it was just in 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:15.359 the best interest to to stop the beef right there 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:19.640 and not do the records that I had what was 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:21.760 the name of the song you had cocked and loaded? 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.240 I don't know. I got to look at my notebook. 0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:28.319 It's buried in my notebook. I haven't it was it 0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.200 was crazy though, yeah, I mean I was. It was 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:31.960 a disc record. 0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:34.160 Did you think The Bitching You was a hard record? 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.919 I didn't feel those things from it, Okay, that's fair, 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:46.279 you know. I didn't feel like, uh, you know, I. 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:48.759 Was just wonder because obviously you guys are like, I. 0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:50.719 Mean, we're cool now, but I just want to hear 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.879 the record, and I think I only heard the records once. 0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:57.719 I only heard it once when somebody did you only 0:47:57.719 --> 0:47:58.759 want to listen to it one time? 0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:00.600 You're not going to go back into to it once 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.920 unless you're Drake and everywhere you go it's playing. 0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:07.920 And you know, to me, it was, uh, you know, 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:09.040 it was cool. 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:12.160 Yeah, now that was, you know, an interesting time for sure. 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.160 On the new record, you say that you're here to 0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:16.440 fight reptiles and lizards. 0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:16.959 Yeah. 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:19.640 Now, I know that you and I are probably a 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.520 little more on the conspiracy side than other people. Huh 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.600 did you mean like reptilians lizard people? 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.480 I think that's what we all fighting somewhere somehow. 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.560 I'm just curious. Yeah, that stuck out. 0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:34.359 It is Yeah, I think we all fighting some kind 0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:40.960 of forces that are not happy with humanity and trying to, 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:42.960 you know, make sure we're self destruct. 0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:45.040 Do you feel like I don't want to get too 0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.120 specific with like any sort of politics or anything, but 0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.160 you know, with what's going on obviously the election just ended. 0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:56.200 There is a real economy in division. Yeah. 0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:01.120 People's entire livelihoods and their houses and their car notes 0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:07.399 are paid based on peddling divisive material to divide people, right, 0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:11.680 And I'm just curious from your perspective, you've I mean 0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.640 you've seen, I mean, you've been a part of so 0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:18.879 many different like eras of the country as a black 0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.239 man in America. Obviously, fucking you've talked about I think 0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.720 a bird in the hand and the bushy, the first bush, Jesus, 0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:26.600 the first bush, you know what I mean? Even Reagan, 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.520 it was were you wrapping in before? 0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:32.399 Man? 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.480 But I'm just curious, like, what what would you say, 0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:38.120 like if you had to kind of as somebody who's 0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.600 kind of seen I don't know if the country has 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:42.359 ever been this divided, Like, what do you think would 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.400 be the healing factor. 0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:54.359 For people to mind their own business a little more? 0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:59.920 I love that, Yeah, I think if if you wait 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:03.520 make up, and you in social media and you're looking 0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:09.600 at everybody business and you affected negatively, and you start 0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:14.840 affecting people around you negatively because of other people's business 0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:20.799 that you've been watching, that's a problem. Minding your own 0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:28.520 business don't just mean ignoring the world. It means everybody 0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:30.880 got shit they need to do in their own life, 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.560 and they need to mind their own business like you 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:40.560 mine a goal mine, like clean your shit up, fix 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:44.760 your shit. You got your loose sinds, type your loose sinds, 0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:51.480 work on your business, and not worry about the fate 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:57.560 of the world, because nine times out of ten, you're 0:50:57.560 --> 0:51:01.160 getting frustrated and worked up about somebody else's business and 0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:03.040 some shit that don't even concern you. 0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:06.279 Yeah, and you're getting frustrated and worked up because that's 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.399 with the purpose of probably that's what that's what they 0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:11.480 want exactly. 0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:17.520 And you're not hit till you hit, and you're not 0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:23.080 hurt till your hit. So stop waiting. You know what 0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:28.359 makes a soldier fight on through the bullets that are 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:32.120 coming at him? Why does he keep going? How does 0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:37.840 he keep going when he knows bullets are incoming? Because 0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:41.400 you're not hit till you hit, so you might not 0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:46.319 ever get hit. So why sit there and ship your 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:51.120 pants when you're not even hit. So most of the 0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:54.080 time people are crying and yelling and this is my 0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.359 life gonna change and my rights and it not even 0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:01.279 really affects them, you know. They just get worked up 0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:02.720 over other people's business. 0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:05.600 Yeah, and even like sometimes like they're getting worked up 0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:09.839 over what they perceive to be factual when a lot 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:10.839 of times it's not. 0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:14.839 It's not. You know, people always think they can sing 0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:18.280 into the future on how it's gonna be, But that's okay. 0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:19.960 I'm like, hey man, we've lived through everybody, right, so 0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.399 it's gonna be. There's gonna be another president of four 0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:23.600 years and another one after that. 0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:24.440 I'm curious. 0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:27.520 You and your wife are one of probably the most 0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:29.480 successful marriage in hip hop at this point. 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:35.279 How many years thirty two? Uh, we've been together since 0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:39.839 nineteen eighty nine, so I'm married in nineteen ninety two. 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:44.600 That's beautiful, as somebody I've been married for over five years? 0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:50.000 What is the key to lasting that long? Because sometimes 0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:51.319 me and my wife want to kill each other. 0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:58.919 I mean, you gotta you gotta want to be there. 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:06.800 You know, you gotta understand the reason you married this person, 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:18.920 and you gotta want to be there. You gotta you know, 0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:23.239 be a giver, not a receiver. And the more you give, 0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:27.439 the more you will receive in a relationship. That's right. 0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:36.200 And so you know, having somebody to go through this 0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:40.919 crazy life with and if you guys can have each 0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:48.480 other's back where it's us against the world. And the 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:53.520 thing is, when it's real tight, whether you're married or not, 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:59.840 y'all still be like that. That's a real commitment marriage 0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:02.960 and all that just a license paperwork. You have to 0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:08.479 be committed to a person for life. And you stay 0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:11.319 down with her. She stayed down with you, and let 0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:14.560 the chips fall what they may. And we could yell 0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:16.959 all day at each other, but still love your ass. 0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:20.320 You Still we're still gonna be Yeah, I ain't going nowhere. 0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:22.880 You ain't going nowhere. You know, we're gonna work through it, 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:28.800 live through it, and come through it, yo. Whatever. 0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:33.240 Like how close or how far along was the idea 0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.319 of the new n w A when like hello and 0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.240 chin check and all that ship was like was it 0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:41.520 was it like a thing that was getting worked on 0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:43.080 or was it just a night because you guys were 0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:44.919 I think there was this there was the source cover 0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:46.120 that was. 0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:54.680 Yeah. We we were just you know, kind of figuring 0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:59.279 our next moves in a lot of ways. We had 0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:04.239 just really start to come back together after you know, 0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:08.800 Easy passed away and it was just you did like 0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:11.680 natural Born Killers. Yeah we did that, but that was 0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:15.960 that was for the that was for the murder, was 0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:23.640 the case soundtrack, and basically what happened. You know, we 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:27.360 thinking about, Okay, this is a project that we we 0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:29.799 like working together. We could get together and do a 0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:36.960 whole nother project. Then dra meet some kid named eminem. 0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:40.799 Crazy some kid, and then and then it just was like. 0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:43.720 Man and then after that he meets some dude named fifty, 0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:49.200 and it was kind of like the hold on cue 0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:51.440 I got. I got a few things to do before 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:53.360 we get to that, which is understandable. 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.800 And you guys were on the up and smoke tour together. 0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:58.120 Yeah, Yeah, we had fun. You know, we all went 0:55:58.160 --> 0:55:59.680 out big tour. 0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.800 I'm sad because I sold so many of my CDs 0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:06.560 to the warehouse to afford my ticket in Phoenix, Arizona, 0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:08.360 And that was one of the dates you were. 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:11.759 Not Yeah, when they put the tour together. I had 0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.520 spot dates, so I had to miss one or two. 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.640 You miss Phoenix, Yeah, I was like, wait Ice Cubes 0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:18.560 that performing the night? 0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:23.279 What the fuck? Yeah? That was trust me, I was 0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:26.120 I was hating effect that I was a crazy somewhere 0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.520 else on some smaller ship and I'm. 0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:31.400 Like, ah, that was a crazy tour though it was. 0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:36.000 It was. It was as fun and big and crazy 0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:36.840 as you can imagine. 0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:39.400 You had like that run like around the war and 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:42.080 peace times when you were like on Corn's followed the 0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:44.799 Leader and then they were on your album and then 0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:47.440 you were doing like a lot of rock festivals or 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:49.799 shows like I remember just like seeing that shit on 0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:52.879 MTV news all the time. Yeah, what like like what 0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:55.839 made you and Corn like hit it off to where 0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:57.640 you guys did a couple of records together. 0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:00.640 You know, after doing a Lola it was a tour 0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:07.200 in ninety two. I was, you know, hot with that market. 0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:11.560 So it was always you know, me and my management 0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:15.200 looking for ways to connect with another rock group or 0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:20.960 do some cool shit. And I ended up getting with 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:25.160 new management and they one of the groups was Corn, 0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:30.919 and so I dug the record because it was incorporating 0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:34.240 hip hop into this rock and sure you have a 0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:37.880 breakbeat breakout and then they go back and yeah, I'm like, oh, 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:41.280 this shit is dope. So meeting them, you know, just 0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:45.480 saying how cool they wash, it was like, dude, you 0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:47.040 know we're working on some shit. If you want to 0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:50.120 come get down, let's get down. And we did stuff 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:52.600 together and then we went on the Family Values Tour. 0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:56.919 That's the tour. Lamp Biscuit, Yah, yeah, Limp Biscuit, that's 0:57:56.960 --> 0:58:03.960 like yeah corn Limp Biscuit. A group called uh minished 0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:08.400 Well I wasn't Ministry, it was damn They are called 0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:11.440 how Many Values to Ours? That's a fucking legend. The 0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:15.400 front ro Romstein, Wait, Romstein was on that. 0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:20.720 Trash mash and and then ice. 0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:25.920 Cube them motherfuckers a day on. 0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:30.880 Like h that's just such a crazy, like sonic opposite 0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:33.919 of the spectrum like industrial German rock. 0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:38.800 These motherfuckers will put theirself on fire in the middle 0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:45.160 of the Ramstein Dudes, Romstein, Dudes, Ramstein, Ramstein. This motherfucker 0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:50.920 would be performing and then they would come and put 0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:54.800 this vadast ship on him, right, not ship, but it 0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:59.240 was like some uhlobby ship. 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:01.360 That they could on fire without killing. 0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:07.400 Such as motherfucker on fire? Was this before you went on? Yeah? 0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:10.600 So so then you're like, I gotta follow the dude 0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:12.120 who just set himself on fire? 0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:14.920 Yeah yeah, this ship was good. No, it was after us, 0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:17.440 yeah yeah, yeah, it was. Thank god it was after us, 0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:20.720 but we would be tripping off these dudes. Man, they was. 0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:24.360 They was like, this was some of the crazy ship 0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:25.040 I ever seen. 0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:29.320 And I mean yeah, the mosh pits had to be crazy. 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:30.640 It was fun. Yo. 0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:34.680 What would you say is your worst movie out of 0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:37.440 all the bigger ones? Your worst big budget movie? 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:45.280 What's your I'll go first the Triple X. Uh well, 0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:50.240 I would say, uh Ghost of Mars Is I forgot 0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:53.600 about that one. You're right about that. That was I 0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:58.400 did some ship called Rampart with I remember Rampart with 0:59:59.080 --> 1:00:05.600 Woody Harrelson. Yep, that's garbage. Okay, it wasn't. Fucking Triple 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:09.600 X is better than that ship. Come on, man, Triple X. 1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:15.320 The only reason to me, Triple X had the wrong director. 1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:18.320 They had an old school director when they should have 1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:23.120 got somebody wasn't exhibiting Triple X too. Yeah yeah, yep, yeah, 1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:27.360 that was a Sam Jackson and William Dafoe. It was 1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:29.640 just the wrong director. You know. He didn't he didn't 1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:35.000 add no, no, no spice to it. It just felt old. 1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:38.880 What is your, in your opinion, your most underrated movie 1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:40.840 that you don't get You don't you know? I mean 1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:44.000 you've done all about the Benjamins. Yeah, for sure, I agree. 1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:49.240 Follow Yeah, Mike Apps, you feel like that's the Mike 1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:51.840 Apps movie that really made people be like, oh ship, yeah, 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:52.360 Mike Is. 1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:57.080 I love working with Mike. He's he's uh, he's my 1:00:57.200 --> 1:00:59.560 favorite person to work with. 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:03.880 Is Uh. It's gonna be difficult to pull off this 1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:09.720 new Friday movie. Obviously, I'm excited because John will not 1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:10.120 be in it. 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:17.080 Well, I think Friday's great. Is Friday has a universe 1:01:17.200 --> 1:01:21.800 of people. It does, and if we make a movie 1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:30.200 that that is on point, he will be missed, but 1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:31.800 he won't ruin the movie. 1:01:31.840 --> 1:01:35.120 You gotta have unk in it. Of course, something has 1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:37.720 gotten with the barbecue spot. I got it, I got it, 1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:40.880 I got this watch. Did you like my video? 1:01:41.440 --> 1:01:43.840 Oh? I loved it. It wasn't entertainment, it was great. 1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:45.920 And and then did you was that a wig you 1:01:46.000 --> 1:01:48.480 had on it? On? Now? Hell? Yeah, you know that 1:01:48.560 --> 1:01:50.320 you don't look like Moore's day for real. 1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:53.960 This is this is this is uh okay, so kill 1:01:53.960 --> 1:01:56.040 it will comes out and that's your last album in 1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:58.880 which you had like long hair and the death certificate 1:01:58.880 --> 1:02:01.720 you got the fade. Yeah, were you like worried about 1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:04.160 cutting your hair and like because you just like it 1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:06.880 was there's almost like this era of Cube where it's like, okay, 1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:11.000 there's Jerry Jerry curl Cube and then haircut Cube. 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:13.360 I wasn't worried at all. I had to cut my 1:02:13.400 --> 1:02:17.280 hair because for acting. No, I just got a pool. Okay, 1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:21.080 I could afford a pool. I was in that shit 1:02:21.240 --> 1:02:24.360 every day. And if you can imagine how Jerry Curle 1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:29.000 look after you swim every day for a whole summer. Shit, 1:02:29.840 --> 1:02:34.000 that shit was looking like you know afro. So I 1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:37.720 was like, I love this fucking pool. I'm gonna be 1:02:37.800 --> 1:02:41.400 in this shit every day. So I cut my hair 1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:46.000 because I couldn't. I couldn't keep it from looking fucked up. 1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:50.280 Seventh season of Big Three just wrapped. 1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:53.080 Eighth, Yeah, seventh, we're going into today. 1:02:53.080 --> 1:02:57.320 Going into the eighth season. Uh I know that. Uh 1:02:57.600 --> 1:03:00.000 you know, for people who watch it, they just love it. 1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:03.520 They appreciate it, and I'm just curious, like, did you 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:07.480 ever figure out what the disconnect has been with like 1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:09.640 the NBA? 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:15.760 Yeah, I know what it is. That's easy. They mad 1:03:15.840 --> 1:03:19.160 they didn't think of the ship and they don't want 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:22.360 somebody like me running something like this when they believe 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:25.680 they own basketball, but they don't because. 1:03:25.480 --> 1:03:27.920 They have the w NBA, they have the G League, 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:29.160 They have. 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:31.600 Every base covered except for what happens when players, but 1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:37.200 they don't own basketball. Correct. Nobody runs and say, ma, 1:03:38.080 --> 1:03:42.120 I'm going out to go play NBA. They say I'm 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:46.200 going out to go play basketball. So there's room for 1:03:46.240 --> 1:03:48.600 the Big three to exist, and we will exist. We 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:51.520 don't even need the NBA at this point. Do you 1:03:51.560 --> 1:03:54.240 think it's an Adam Silver thing? Of course, it's a 1:03:54.320 --> 1:03:58.680 straight I mean, is it a smart business decision not 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:01.760 to work with me and the big No? Okay, so 1:04:01.800 --> 1:04:02.880 it got to be personal. 1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:04.360 Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me. 1:04:04.440 --> 1:04:07.120 It don't make crazy man sense, as my man keyboard was. 1:04:07.120 --> 1:04:10.200 Saying, because you could like embrace it and then it 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:13.080 could be this cool place where players go. It's like, hey, 1:04:13.120 --> 1:04:13.640 you retired. 1:04:13.680 --> 1:04:16.440 They didn't think of it. They don't want me running it. 1:04:17.440 --> 1:04:21.200 They don't want to work with it, so we don't 1:04:21.240 --> 1:04:23.320 need them now. Maybe four or five years ago we 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:26.520 probably wanted them to do it, but now they were 1:04:26.600 --> 1:04:27.040 just being on. 1:04:27.200 --> 1:04:29.919 Well they never embraced and won back in the day. 1:04:30.080 --> 1:04:34.720 Remember this is bigger, I mean not bigger. This is different. 1:04:34.760 --> 1:04:36.960 It's different. But I'm saying like they didn't embrace that 1:04:37.600 --> 1:04:41.160 because they they didn't want, you know, that style of 1:04:41.400 --> 1:04:47.320 play to come into the NBA for the Big three? 1:04:47.920 --> 1:04:48.240 Is there? 1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:51.200 I know I saw somebody. There's going to be expansion, 1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:52.680 right like new Ts and all that. 1:04:52.920 --> 1:04:58.360 Yeah, well we're selling teams, so teams are now going 1:04:58.400 --> 1:05:01.400 to be represented by cities and then after we sell 1:05:01.400 --> 1:05:02.880 a lot of twelve, we'll expand. 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:06.000 So right now there's twelve teams that people can invest in, 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:10.640 eight because four have been So if somebody wanted to 1:05:10.640 --> 1:05:12.880 invest in the team and bring it to Phoenix, what 1:05:12.880 --> 1:05:13.560 would they have to do? 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:20.000 Shit, have some MS, A lot of MS, A lot 1:05:20.000 --> 1:05:22.800 of MS, I mean, you know, a reasonable amount. 1:05:22.520 --> 1:05:25.840 A reasonable amount of MS. Yes, some fucking money per se. 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:31.000 Yeah, yeah, that's fair. It is fair to. 1:05:31.960 --> 1:05:34.640 Talk to me about the album. I've heard that it's 1:05:34.680 --> 1:05:36.440 amazing good. 1:05:36.920 --> 1:05:40.360 I believe it is you know it's called man Down, 1:05:40.640 --> 1:05:44.560 and you know I have to accumulate it the record. 1:05:44.760 --> 1:05:47.160 That's what I ended up calling it because it felt 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:51.240 like a record talking about a lot of different subjects. 1:05:53.400 --> 1:05:55.840 A few of them have to deal with the state 1:05:55.880 --> 1:06:00.200 of men and how you know, how are added two 1:06:00.280 --> 1:06:04.600 d is in twenty twenty five four Pussification of men? Yeah, 1:06:04.640 --> 1:06:10.960 I mean, you know it's sad, and so you know 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:15.080 it's really about us standing up, you know what I mean. 1:06:16.400 --> 1:06:19.200 Don't be a pussy all your life. Be a dick 1:06:19.280 --> 1:06:27.560 sometime and get hard. I like, what, yo, was it cool? Going? 1:06:27.640 --> 1:06:31.400 I went to Joe Rogan spot in Austin with Freddy 1:06:31.400 --> 1:06:33.760 Gibbs when Freddy Gibbs did it, Yeah, he's got like 1:06:33.880 --> 1:06:36.160 it's very like an unassuming building, like you wouldn't even 1:06:36.200 --> 1:06:38.440 know it's there. Yeah, but let you go in and 1:06:38.440 --> 1:06:40.800 it's like this is a place, Like how cool was that? 1:06:40.840 --> 1:06:42.800 Being able to link with him. Obviously a lot of 1:06:42.800 --> 1:06:45.080 people would say he might have just you know, thrown 1:06:45.120 --> 1:06:48.000 the election in someone's favor, but because he is the 1:06:48.000 --> 1:06:49.760 biggest media platform in the world. 1:06:49.640 --> 1:06:53.000 Yeah, real cool, you know, being able to you know, 1:06:53.120 --> 1:06:56.400 see how he get down And I've been a fans 1:06:56.640 --> 1:07:01.240 of that dude since fear factor for sure, and then 1:07:01.320 --> 1:07:04.800 to see him you know, getting to the UFC and 1:07:04.920 --> 1:07:11.360 really be you know, extremely you know, passionate and full 1:07:11.400 --> 1:07:19.840 of information. Yeah, which to me helped you know, grow 1:07:19.920 --> 1:07:23.680 that sport and get it to where it is. I 1:07:23.720 --> 1:07:27.080 think his analysis was just as good as the fight. 1:07:27.600 --> 1:07:32.400 And so to see him using that platform and being 1:07:32.480 --> 1:07:37.920 able to to talk about things in a in a 1:07:38.040 --> 1:07:45.400 more you know cool setting two or three hours long 1:07:45.440 --> 1:07:50.439 form really uh deep dive into each topic in each 1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:55.440 conversation without feeling like you rushed or you you can't 1:07:55.440 --> 1:07:58.560 get out of something cool that you think people will 1:07:58.600 --> 1:08:02.160 want to see it here. So it was real cool 1:08:02.480 --> 1:08:05.400 to hang with them and hope to do it again sometimes. 1:08:06.560 --> 1:08:08.200 Any features on the album on Man. 1:08:08.120 --> 1:08:14.040 Oh yeah yeah, we definitely got features Exhibit Killer, Mike Buster, 1:08:15.200 --> 1:08:21.880 Snoop forty, Short, j D, j D, Jermaine pre no 1:08:23.200 --> 1:08:26.320 Nah Nah j D from the Lynch Mob. I mean, 1:08:26.320 --> 1:08:30.040 I don't know man JD from the Lynch Mob, and 1:08:32.200 --> 1:08:35.400 we got Corrupt on there be Real Yo. 1:08:36.000 --> 1:08:39.880 The it felt like the Mount Westmore album. It was 1:08:39.920 --> 1:08:42.479 a little disappointing in terms of just like the impact 1:08:42.520 --> 1:08:42.880 it made. 1:08:42.920 --> 1:08:44.559 It Yeah, what do you think. 1:08:45.920 --> 1:08:49.080 There were some dope joints on there? But where do 1:08:49.120 --> 1:08:51.200 you think the Mount Westmore project? Because I think what 1:08:51.520 --> 1:08:53.200 my favorite part that came out of that was you 1:08:53.280 --> 1:08:57.240 guys did shows together. Yeah, and it gave fans like 1:08:57.520 --> 1:09:00.000 you could go see all of y'all together on stage, 1:09:00.120 --> 1:09:02.040 which was amazing. But in terms of like the actual 1:09:02.080 --> 1:09:04.040 body of work, it got like mixed up with the NFT. 1:09:04.160 --> 1:09:06.280 It was delayed a bunch of times, Like yeah, it 1:09:06.439 --> 1:09:11.080 just you know, the the NFT thing was it was 1:09:11.120 --> 1:09:15.479 a mistake in a lot of ways, and it's just 1:09:15.600 --> 1:09:19.880 a project that kind of took too long to hit. 1:09:20.640 --> 1:09:23.640 And you know, you got four people trying to come 1:09:23.720 --> 1:09:26.960 together to do something and everybody else they couldn't hold 1:09:27.000 --> 1:09:29.439 on no more, so they had to go do their 1:09:29.479 --> 1:09:33.439 own solo shit and couldn't really work the record or 1:09:34.280 --> 1:09:37.040 you know, promote the record or really. 1:09:36.960 --> 1:09:39.360 Tour the record, right, I mean there was some dope. 1:09:39.360 --> 1:09:40.719 I mean, you guys have some records they got played 1:09:40.720 --> 1:09:41.559 on radio, and shit. 1:09:42.200 --> 1:09:46.439 It's a good record. You know, just wish we could 1:09:46.479 --> 1:09:50.160 have wish it would have came out on time and 1:09:51.320 --> 1:09:53.240 and you know we had time to really work. 1:09:53.120 --> 1:09:56.120 It for Let's say there's a seventeen year old kid 1:09:56.120 --> 1:09:59.280 who hears it's my ego for the first time, and 1:09:59.400 --> 1:10:03.639 they hear you I was Kendrick before Kendrick. Yeah, explain 1:10:03.800 --> 1:10:04.519 because I said, I. 1:10:04.600 --> 1:10:08.360 Know what you mean, but like, well, I started kicking 1:10:08.439 --> 1:10:12.240 what we call street knowledge a long time ago, and 1:10:13.520 --> 1:10:16.720 it's a blend of you know, what's happening on the 1:10:16.800 --> 1:10:21.400 streets and what's happening in the world, and you know, 1:10:21.520 --> 1:10:23.680 being able to do it in a dope way in 1:10:23.800 --> 1:10:28.519 a hip hop form and still be you know, fresh 1:10:28.600 --> 1:10:34.439 but informative is a style at that. Uh. You know, 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:38.000 I've helped coin with a few other ogs, you know, 1:10:38.200 --> 1:10:43.880 like Iced Tea and Carras and you know, the Meley 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:46.760 mel and rock Kims of the world. But and you 1:10:46.840 --> 1:10:49.240 were like also a good kid in a mad city 1:10:49.479 --> 1:10:51.760 before that was the thing, Like yeah, I mean, you know, 1:10:51.880 --> 1:10:54.240 we all was like you were like, you know. 1:10:54.360 --> 1:10:56.680 Trying to like get your shit together, going to you 1:10:57.200 --> 1:10:58.720 went to Arizona to go to college and shit, but 1:10:58.840 --> 1:11:01.360 you still were kind of telling the story of your 1:11:01.520 --> 1:11:03.680 of your neighborhood and of your Yeah, and you know, I. 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:08.920 Start rapping at fourteen years old, So it's it's an 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:11.200 age where you trying to figure out which way you're 1:11:11.200 --> 1:11:17.559 gonna go. You're gonna go sports dope, gang banging. Luckily 1:11:18.080 --> 1:11:20.920 hip hop was right there, and so that's the door 1:11:20.960 --> 1:11:24.200 I went through and it's gotten me here. Uh So, 1:11:26.120 --> 1:11:28.519 you know, the line is not a disc The line 1:11:28.680 --> 1:11:32.439 to me is paying homage to what Kendrick has done 1:11:32.520 --> 1:11:37.000 in the Gang to be honest, or I wouldn't even 1:11:37.080 --> 1:11:39.680 say that about to do the halftime show. Yeah, so 1:11:41.880 --> 1:11:45.000 salute to all those Grammy nominations, Salute to him being 1:11:45.080 --> 1:11:50.559 a true artist and not compromising the art for the fame. 1:11:51.400 --> 1:11:55.240 And I believe I'm the same type artists. 1:11:56.160 --> 1:11:58.400 Well, he just got I think six or seven Grammy 1:11:58.439 --> 1:11:59.880 nominations for Not Like Us Today. 1:12:00.040 --> 1:12:00.240 Good. 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:03.360 Can you imagine if like no Vassiline in the Night 1:12:03.800 --> 1:12:07.920 would have got like Grammy nominations and melted the Academy down. 1:12:09.680 --> 1:12:09.920 Ship. 1:12:10.040 --> 1:12:12.800 They're still not even showing the Best Rap Album award 1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:14.840 on TV, which is fucking preposterous to me. 1:12:15.560 --> 1:12:20.479 Yeah, it's just you know, it's them trying to keep 1:12:20.720 --> 1:12:21.799 some sense. 1:12:21.640 --> 1:12:23.720 Of number one genre of music in the world. But 1:12:23.880 --> 1:12:25.840 you know, let's not show you the Album of the 1:12:25.920 --> 1:12:28.760 Year A couple of quick things. Would you ever do 1:12:28.840 --> 1:12:35.680 a podcast under the right circumstances, because I feel like 1:12:35.800 --> 1:12:39.640 if you were just like speaking on your perspective of 1:12:40.080 --> 1:12:42.320 current events or music, I just feel like it would 1:12:42.320 --> 1:12:46.479 be Yeah, I can make it work. It's an eight 1:12:46.560 --> 1:12:48.280 figure idea right there. You got to do it, man, 1:12:48.360 --> 1:12:51.120 can make it work. And I mean obviously there's been 1:12:51.200 --> 1:12:55.600 guys who have done it. Would there ever be a 1:12:55.720 --> 1:12:59.080 world in which you would ever make up with mac 1:12:59.120 --> 1:13:00.800 ten and do another West Connection album? 1:13:02.280 --> 1:13:02.680 I don't know. 1:13:03.840 --> 1:13:09.880 Time will tell. I don't know fair enough. Yea, the 1:13:10.000 --> 1:13:14.360 new album Man Down? Yeah, uh, what is the what's 1:13:14.400 --> 1:13:14.960 the release date? 1:13:16.360 --> 1:13:19.320 November twenty right around the corner? 1:13:20.040 --> 1:13:23.880 We got you and Snoop dropping Like yeah, Snoop's back 1:13:23.920 --> 1:13:27.840 with Dre. This new record feels like classic Cube, like 1:13:28.880 --> 1:13:30.160 the West Coast got. 1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:31.960 This ship right now? Man? Why not? 1:13:32.240 --> 1:13:34.960 You know the dog pounds dropped on Death Row. 1:13:35.800 --> 1:13:40.160 Hey, we ain't never went nowhere, We just got busy, 1:13:40.360 --> 1:13:40.960 but we're back. 1:13:41.240 --> 1:13:43.600 Do you take like when you when you hear that 1:13:43.840 --> 1:13:46.680 term like legacy artists, I feel like that's a good thing, 1:13:47.200 --> 1:13:48.400 is that you're still here and you're still go. 1:13:48.520 --> 1:13:50.920 Oh yeah, you know you still hear people still give 1:13:50.960 --> 1:13:55.880 a fuck, you know, I know, uh, you know, people 1:13:55.960 --> 1:13:59.680 gonna put titles on on on you when you've been 1:13:59.720 --> 1:14:03.280 around for decades, and that's cool, you know, as long 1:14:03.320 --> 1:14:08.240 as they still paying attention, you know, calling the old 1:14:08.320 --> 1:14:14.559 school og legacy legend, you know what I mean. 1:14:16.400 --> 1:14:18.760 Just don't call me whack and you're I know you're 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:21.679 working on a lot of other shit, but uh, besides Friday, 1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:23.760 any other movies in the works you're writing in the oh. 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:26.240 Yeah, definitely got we got some things cocked and loaded. 1:14:26.520 --> 1:14:28.160 I can't wait to see it, man. I feel like 1:14:28.200 --> 1:14:29.800 it's been a few years since I've seen you, like 1:14:29.880 --> 1:14:32.280 on a on on a big screen, so it's been 1:14:32.320 --> 1:14:36.920 a minute, do you uh randomly? Also, I just got 1:14:37.040 --> 1:14:39.639 to give you props because you also have besides Friday, 1:14:40.040 --> 1:14:43.479 the twenty one Jump Street. Yeah, ship like you're you're 1:14:43.600 --> 1:14:47.120 rolling that as the as the Captain is so good. 1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:49.320 Thanks, thanks, Oh, it's so good. 1:14:49.360 --> 1:14:51.240 I just got to give you props. I can't wait 1:14:51.280 --> 1:14:53.040 to hear the album. Man, the new record is dope. 1:14:53.080 --> 1:14:54.880 The remixes out, will bust a rhyme and kill a 1:14:54.960 --> 1:14:59.559 Mike and uh yeah, man down. November twenty second, ice 1:14:59.680 --> 1:15:02.040 Q one of the greatest of all time. Yeah yeah, 1:15:02.240 --> 1:15:04.680 I appreciate you man, Luke, I appreciate you too. 1:15:05.160 --> 1:15:05.360 Oh.