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Speaker 1: Yo, what's cracking this your homeboy? Ice Cbe Hotstyles, My style,

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Speaker 1: Jo Styles, Die Soule. We're doing it big right here

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Speaker 1: on the Bootleg Cavs podcast. I was about to say show.

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Speaker 2: Before we start the episode, Man, I got to remind

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Speaker 2: to our latest affiliate. Shout out to Knoxville, Tennessee, Man

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Speaker 2: Hot one oh four point five for being the latest

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Speaker 2: city to join the Bootleg cav Show network. All right now,

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Speaker 2: I don't ever really talk about the radio show on

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Speaker 2: the podcast, keep them separate. But if you want to

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Speaker 2: listen to the radio show, you can click the link

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Speaker 2: in the bio for a list of all the cities

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Speaker 2: you can listen to at. Yeah, that makes sense. Let's

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Speaker 2: get to the interview, Yo, Bootleg cav show Man special

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Speaker 2: guests in here a living legend, one of the greatest

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Speaker 2: of all time, one of the founding fathers of the

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Speaker 2: hip hop that I grew up on, the freest thinker

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Speaker 2: in hip hop. In twenty twenty four, Ice Cube the

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Speaker 2: don Mega Well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, what's happening with man, it's an honor.

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Speaker 2: We did a conversation before, but it was with the

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Speaker 2: Mount Wesmore guys. Yeah, so it's good to have you,

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Speaker 2: like on the one on one you got new music out,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, yeah, that's dope.

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Speaker 2: It's my ego is it sounds like vintage Cube.

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Speaker 1: Good. That's what I wanted. Thank you, That's what I wanted. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like when like, you know, people like I

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Speaker 2: grew up listening to try to chase like a current record,

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just like that's not why, like we

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Speaker 2: love you, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, being in the game for almost forty years,

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Speaker 1: that's great. It's and I've seen waves come and go

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Speaker 1: and I just you know around the Laugh Now Cry

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Speaker 1: Later record six. Yeah, right before that record, I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: when I pick up a I need a Baker record,

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Speaker 1: I want it to sound like I need.

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Speaker 2: A Baker, right, you don't want it to sound like that.

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Speaker 1: She chased Joyeah, so I felt like, well, ice Ce

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Speaker 1: fans are the same way, you know, when they pick

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Speaker 1: it up, they wanted to be cointessential, authentic ice Cube.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what I that's what I've been worry about,

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Speaker 1: worrying about delivering, you know what I mean When I

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Speaker 1: say worrying, I'm not like I'm worried, but he's what

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Speaker 1: I've been focused, you know, doing records. That's you know,

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Speaker 1: totally me.

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Speaker 2: I wonder too, because like you're you're always, you know,

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Speaker 2: growing up. I feel like people could listen to your

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Speaker 2: albums for kind of like a current narration of the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: through you know, through your eyes at least. And I

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Speaker 2: do feel like the world is like in a crazy

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Speaker 2: feels like everyone's losing their fucking mind. Are you, like,

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Speaker 2: are you getting back to some of the like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I believe so. I believe so in my own way though,

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Speaker 1: right you know, it's really about making good records at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, and you don't want like

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Speaker 1: the things you're trying to show or highlight to get

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Speaker 1: in the way of a good record, right, so you

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Speaker 1: have to find ways to to uh barrier is the

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Speaker 1: wrong word, but to fit it. It's you feed your

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Speaker 1: dog medicine without a doubt because people are not buying

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Speaker 1: music for a history lesson or uh. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: not a social studies experiment. It's music. So that the

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Speaker 1: magic buying your music. But the magic is to make

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Speaker 1: it bad, make it bump if you both the rhyme's

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Speaker 1: dope for sure, to make it a good song at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, because it could be for me,

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Speaker 1: it could be for any artists. Nobody want to be

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Speaker 1: preached to in their music. You know, they want to

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Speaker 2: But I think it's about relatability. Yeah, and if and

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Speaker 2: if you take that and you know, apply it, then

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Speaker 1: Good, Yeah, it's it's about now. Of course, I got

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Speaker 1: I'm an MC so I mean it's my ego, but

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Speaker 1: I think everybody should celebrate their ego. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like we've gotten away from

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Speaker 2: the record. You said, like people are gonna get triggered.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like so what it's good for them to be triggered.

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Speaker 1: Let them know you here for sure, Like you can't

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Speaker 1: be docile, that won't get you nowhere. You have to.

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Speaker 1: It's cool, you know, as long as you don't go overboard,

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Speaker 1: you know, but you gotta, you know, let people know

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Speaker 1: you here. Why are you unique? Why are you you?

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Speaker 2: I think back, and I'm like, could ice Cube from

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one release Death Certificate today and not get canceled.

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Speaker 1: Or like Lethal Injection?

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Speaker 2: I think it's songs like like kve Bitch or like

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Speaker 2: Black Korea, Like, yeah, I don't know if these songs

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Speaker 2: have a TMZ article written with like twenty like they'd

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: you get a reaction. Oh yeah, you want to You

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Speaker 1: don't want a record to play and there's nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You want to strike a motion.

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Speaker 1: Without a doubt. You know. That's to me, the reason

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Speaker 1: people like music because it strikes emotional chords and so

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Speaker 1: you know, nobody's stopping me from saying anything. So it's

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Speaker 1: all about the artists having the courage to do it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll say this, man, you ended up

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, like you're You're the main reason I

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Speaker 1: Man, that's good.

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Speaker 2: I got the first one. But when I was like, wait,

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Speaker 2: Q passed up on nine million dollars, I'm I gotta

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Speaker 1: Into this, you know, And I didn't need the JAB, So.

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Speaker 1: Glad you didn't. You know, if you didn't need it,

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Speaker 2: That was a crazy time though, because you know, like

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Speaker 2: of become the the poster child for like anti vacs.

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Speaker 2: And I'm curious as somebody who had the FBI come

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Speaker 1: Totally different things. What were the difference.

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Speaker 2: Between dealing with those two things and what was crazier?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, for clarity, I'm not anti vacts.

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Speaker 2: Right, but but you can get the face of it.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah that list just like RFK is not anti VACCX.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well you know, but so you have so you

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Speaker 1: have to for anybody who thinks make it make it clear.

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Speaker 1: I've been vaccinated before as a kid, you know, with

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Speaker 1: the childhood vaccinations, I've gotten them before. Okay, but those

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Speaker 1: were studied for years. This is something new six months

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Speaker 1: want to be a tree. I love that. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You want to be steady while everything is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so stand your ground, you know, stand on your beliefs.

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Speaker 1: Let the chips fall what they may. I was willing

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Speaker 2: I love that. Did you feel like because since then,

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Speaker 2: a New Friday or that's even works, right, But did

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Speaker 2: that affect that, the whole hysteria around your decision, did

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Speaker 2: it affect you getting new movies after after everybody you

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Speaker 1: You never know, you know, you you never really know

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Speaker 1: why movies don't happen or didn't happen or or what.

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Speaker 1: know when the movies came back, you know, I was

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Speaker 1: offered to do a movie, but it was during the strike.

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Speaker 2: So now, so you don't want to cross picket line.

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Speaker 1: No, no, even though I had an exempt. Now I

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Speaker 1: had a SAG exemption.

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Speaker 2: Just the optics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what is an exemption doing the strike, either

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Speaker 1: To me, was was useless. I wasn't. I would never

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Speaker 2: Someone told me recently that even though like that strike

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Speaker 2: was about AI, like they recently just struck some like

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Speaker 2: a ideal like the movie companies. That kind of made

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Speaker 2: it like kind of crazy that that strike kept all

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. You probably don't want me.

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Speaker 1: You know, AI, You're gonna have artificial entertainment now, it's wild. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: have you artificial fun?

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Speaker 2: Have they made any artificial intelligence songs with your voice?

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Speaker 1: Because that's the thing they have that's gotta be wild. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's the wackyt shit you ever want to hear. Terrible.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to keep up, you know. He

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Speaker 1: And no, I think it's and he's really good and

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Speaker 1: It's you know character, Yeah, what's the character when you

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I was following his account on Twitter

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Speaker 1: have a label. And so I went and talked to

434
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: Brian Turner at priority. Shout out the priority man. Yeah,

435
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: shout out to priority. Shout out to Brian Turner, Mark

436
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: surround me who don't get a lot of a lot

437
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, a lot of mention. So he's like,

438
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do to keep the group together.

439
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's over. He said, well, we still

440
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: want you, so we will give you a solo budget

441
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: and deal for a solo album. So that was, like, man,

442
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: the best news I had heard since I left the group,

443
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: because now you got somebody to go that deal. Now

444
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: I can do my own way, you know, where I

445
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: can be the head producer on it and what I want.

446
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: To go and wherever, like whatever ideas you want to

447
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: get across. You don't have to clear with it.

448
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't have to clear with with Dre and easy

449
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: is unapologetically you know, argue with Rinning a little bit.

450
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: Y're gonna beal and ship. So I could just do

451
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: what I want. And now I got uh it's me

452
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: and it's sir Jenks who was he was soaking up

453
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: a lot of game from you know, from the time

454
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: I started start. We started hanging with the Recond crew,

455
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: and and then the Recond crew kind of dismantled, and

456
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: then we put n W A together and he's real

457
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: competitive with his cousin Dre right, real competitive. So I

458
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: knew he was ready to produce and ready to show

459
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: what he got.

460
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like this guy, his like his cousin is the

461
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: biggest or at least you know.

462
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he did. I mean, he delivered, and so

463
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: I said, uh, but he wasn't ready to do a

464
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: whole project. You know, he was ready to to contribute.

465
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: And you know, he has some tracks that he actually

466
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: produced on the America's Most Wanted. Everybody give credit to

467
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: the Bomb Squad, but Janmes, did you know once upon

468
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: time the projects a song called the Bomb It's a

469
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: Man's World. So he you know, we we knew, you know,

470
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: we wanted to have other producers for other tracks. You know,

471
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: we didn't know we were gonna have one other team

472
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: working on the whole album. We thought, let's get tracks

473
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: from here here right there. And I was talking to

474
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: Chuck d throughout the breakup because we had met on

475
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: the road. We met in Las Vegas at the Thomas

476
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: and Max Center on some shows we had did together

477
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: Easy and n W A Republic Enemy, and then we

478
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: became real cool exchange numbers. So when I was going

479
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: through the breakup, I would call him, you know, really

480
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: for some big brother advice, you know what I should do.

481
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: He was trying to keep us together. He was like, man,

482
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: this group is too important for sure. Got to try

483
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: to keep it together. Cube. But also at the time,

484
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: I wanted Dre to produce my solo record, but easy

485
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: and and Jerry vetoed.

486
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: That what what Yeah, that wasn't gonna get allowed.

487
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they vetoed that even though Dre wanted to do it,

488
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: because me and Dre was actually still on cool.

489
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: Terms, even though publicly there was the feud, but it wasn't.

490
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't a few yet. It was just

491
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: a breakup. Yeah, But they dissed me before No Vassiline

492
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: or one hundred Miles and Running.

493
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: But No vascanline was like, you know, the greatest this record.

494
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was a comeback. That was the

495
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: great after after the Niggas for Life album where they

496
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: dissed me more and said they was gonna do ship

497
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: to me with broomsticks and all this kind of ship. So,

498
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, long story short, I'm looking for Sam Severn.

499
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in New York looking for Sam Severn

500
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: because he did the third Base album and they beats

501
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: was banging, yeah, and he stooped me up. But I

502
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: saw Chuck in New York at Depth Jam and then

503
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: we connected and he was doing the record that night

504
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: with Big Daddy King called Burn Hollywood Burn. Oh yeah,

505
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: and he was like, do you want to be on

506
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: this record? I was yeah, it would let the world

507
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: know you solo. I was like, hell yeah, went down

508
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: there and recording the record. That's when Hank Shockley was there.

509
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: Keith Shockley and I started talking about him trying to

510
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: get my album produced, and they was like, we'll do

511
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: that whole thing. It was like, I felt like I

512
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: was in good hands. How could I miss with the

513
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: best producers in hip hop at the time, you know,

514
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: And so I felt like, our, I'm in good hands.

515
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: If I can't get the best on the West, I'm

516
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: gonna get the best on these.

517
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: That shit's crazy and as a classic, and it's crazy

518
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: too because you were kill it will drop the same.

519
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: Year right yeah, later on that year.

520
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were like you got that deal and you

521
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: were like, I'm fucking active.

522
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we had records left over from the America's

523
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: Most Won and we're like, what we're gonna do with

524
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: these records. I don't want to wait a whole other years.

525
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: Let's put something out and then and then Chinks had

526
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: did just this crazy remix to Endangered Species. So having

527
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: that and the other records that we had, then I

528
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: thought of that jacking for beats idea.

529
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: One of my favorite album covers was the Kid when

530
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: You with the Gun?

531
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Uh even a song that never gets mentioned,

532
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: Dead Homies ended up becoming a big song for me

533
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: at the time too. After Kill It Will.

534
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 2: Records, Jacking for beats you were like the first because

535
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: you got to think about like mixtape culture and kind

536
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: of t I has a jack in for Beats freestyle

537
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: that was legendary, Like if did you like, were you

538
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: purposely only grabbing shit you knew you could clear?

539
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: No, I was grabbing everything I liked that year. So

540
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: like some of the dopest beats right came out that year.

541
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: But back then you couldn't just go on YouTube and

542
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: typing something something instrumental. And I'm not sure even back

543
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: then we had records. We was in record pools. We okay,

544
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: he was getting all the records, so we had you know,

545
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: it was instrumentals on each.

546
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: Would you who if you if you could pick like

547
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: three beats.

548
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: Right now, if you did a twenty twenty four jack

549
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: and for beats current beats? Is there anything that comes

550
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: to mind that you would you would you would hop on?

551
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: Oh man, I like us, I mean that's that's it,

552
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: That's what would be uh man, I love that twenty

553
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: one Savage Red Run want it all while we have

554
00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: bread Crumb.

555
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah that's hard.

556
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: And uh man, let me think about what other beats

557
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: that got me going crazy this year? M them two

558
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: are the two that come to mind.

559
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: Do you look at uh death Certificate as like your Illmatic,

560
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: your magnum opus of an album?

561
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's pretty both. You know America's

562
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: most and Death Certificate are pretty you know, epic records.

563
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: You know, they're like my Citizen Kane, so.

564
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: Just like you're left and right hand.

565
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh amazing time in music. You know how

566
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: those records was put together, very entertaining records.

567
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: Captivating, like the energy just captivated, Like when you like

568
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: listen to like Summer Vacation, you're like Damn. I feel

569
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 2: like like I wasn't there, but I felt like I

570
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: felt like that was like the energy of it.

571
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the energy at the time. And yeah, amazing,

572
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: amazing records.

573
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: You've you've talked about your relationship with John Singleton at

574
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: with but I'm curious, how were you tapped in it

575
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: all to Snowfall, which was kind of his last thing

576
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: that he not a lot, not a lot in Snowfall

577
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: because obviously he passed away. Yeah, I mean even before that,

578
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: you know, he just had a lot of issues with

579
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: the with the the station, the FX or something and

580
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: people running the show, and he couldn't really do it

581
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: the way he might have been exactly how he wanted

582
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: to do it. And you know, John Singleton is at

583
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 2: his best when he can do what he feels and

584
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: he's not harnessed. And so I don't want to I

585
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: don't want to look at the TV version of It's

586
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: almost like if you were gonna watch it, you would

587
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: wanted to have watched it without knowing all that, like

588
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: going to.

589
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: It blindly, right, Yeah, but you know I knew.

590
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: Like I watched it not knowing that, Like I mean,

591
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 2: obviously you kind of knew it was based off Freeway

592
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: with Ross, right, but like I didn't know that, Like

593
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: there was like this thing where you know, I guess

594
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: he wanted he was he wanted to get some sort

595
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: of credit, you know, Like it was kind of like

596
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: based on my life. Loosely, I already watched.

597
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people out there with the saying, right,

598
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: that's fair. It's just the most famous one. To be fair,

599
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: You you bring dope in your neighborhood and you make

600
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: a lot of money.

601
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: And at the time the CIA was providing it.

602
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make a lot of money, but you're gonna

603
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: fuck up the neighborhood.

604
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: Yo, when you you and Pooh wrote Friday.

605
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: Because Friday's one of the most pivotal.

606
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: Moments in my life as a child, I talk like

607
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: smoky as a as a white child in Arizona. Yeah,

608
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: for at least a two year period. I mean I

609
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: was like eight years old when that movie came out,

610
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: and that movie literally changed my life. I know the

611
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: entire movie by heart, as a lot of other people

612
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: do that, Like some of the scenes, did you understand

613
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: how they were gonna translate? Like you got knocked the

614
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: fuck out man?

615
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?

616
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: Or or smoky smoke, an angel dust running down the

617
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: street while the dudes is bust Like did y'all understand

618
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: like how crazy? Like like yo, this shit's gonna go off?

619
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: Like yeah, we knew it wasn't nobody in Hollywood like

620
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: us me and Pool. We knew you got your black

621
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: dudes in Hollywood, and you got your for real funny dudes.

622
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: But it ain't none of them like us. Ain't none

623
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: of them gonna come from this angle of comedy.

624
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: It was so good, just a little like just like

625
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: even like Pool with the chains, like my Mama change man,

626
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: Like there was just I just wonder like like that's

627
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: like one of the most brilliantly written like comedies of

628
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: all time.

629
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: And it's you know, it's here's why people love the movie.

630
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: It's everybody can live a Friday, right like you and

631
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: your man and go out here, have a crazy Friday,

632
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: staying right in front of it, right in front of

633
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: y'all spot and smoke one and just watch and trip

634
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: off come up and you know, just you know, anybody

635
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: can live at So it's very relatable. And what's what's

636
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: memorable is is the day you all remember it's today

637
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: that the Bully gets his ass with what's coming to everybody.

638
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: Remember whoever they have in their mind, and if they

639
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: saw them get it, they remember that day how it

640
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: played out, and it's uh, it gives you a euphoria

641
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: when you see that because nobody really likes it.

642
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: Bully, you know, was it was it like a difficult

643
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: transition or was it easy for you to like go

644
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: from being one of the most prolific mcs and writers

645
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: on the music side to writing a movie that's a

646
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: whole different format that.

647
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't easy. I ain't gonna say it was easy.

648
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: It was. I had never been to film school, I

649
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: had never written the script. So actually John Singleton encouraged

650
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: me to write scripts when we was doing Boys in

651
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: the Hood. He said, when you're gonna write a script, cute,

652
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: which caught me off guard because I was just trying

653
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: on the act. That was your first movie. Are you

654
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: trying to suck these lines to man? Let alone write

655
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: the script? Like, what are you talking about? He's like,

656
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: you think he said you like doing Boys in the Hood.

657
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, man, it's good. You know, it's

658
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: cool shit write the script? You said, Uh, you think

659
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: Hollywood got another movie for your ass out there. Hollywood

660
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: ain't got shipped for you. Man, if you want to

661
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: do movies, you're gonna have to write your own movies

662
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: if you want to do them, and that that kind

663
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: of was like, oh damn. And then he was like,

664
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: you can do it. Cute because I see this the

665
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: music you write. You know, it's vivid. People can see it.

666
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: You can see the see play out in their heads.

667
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: So you can write a script. Man, You just gotta

668
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: understand the framework, parameters and what you got to get across.

669
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: And Friday the franchise has just been like the launching

670
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: pad for like Chris Tucker, Mike Epps, Kat Williams, Uh.

671
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: Jerry Crew.

672
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: A lot of times, the first people ever seen Bernie

673
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: Mack was on the first Friday. A lot of people

674
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: didn't weren't watching. You know that in comedy, you know

675
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I'm sure cast in that movie

676
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 2: had to be just fun. Like I could just imagine, like.

677
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: Oh, we had a ball, you know. Once I knew

678
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I got John Witherspoon, I knew we was gonna have

679
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: a funny movie.

680
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 2: God rest his soul.

681
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, getting him to play my father in the

682
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: movie was a home run and getting them to seriously

683
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: look at Chris Tucker because originally Pool was supposed to

684
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: play smoking DJ Pooh. We wrote it for us to

685
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: do it, and then once Newline got involved with the movie,

686
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: they it was concerned he didn't have enough acting experience.

687
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: So that's why he played red hm hmm. So it

688
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: was there was actual you know, they look poo is amazing.

689
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: He would have been a double smoky too, without a doubted.

690
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: The lines was there, you know, but uh, they were

691
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: trying to put in known actors to be smoky, like

692
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: non comedians Tommy Davidson name came up and other people

693
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: which I thought they were funny. But to me to

694
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: take this movie serious and to really have this movie

695
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: catch you kind of off guard, I really wanted to

696
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: be the only known face in it. I wanted to folks.

697
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: I knew you would recognize with Jeana King and tiny,

698
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: but as far as my guy right, I wanted to

699
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: be a new, fresh face because nobody would come in

700
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: the movie thinking live in color or you know, I

701
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: already have their on what kind of funny he's gonna be.

702
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: It was just this was a new character like for

703
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: most people Chris Tucker is smoky Like, it's nothing before

704
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: that that they can really.

705
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because even if you watch the Fifth Element, he

706
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: just played like a weird, like a different version of

707
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: smoky in the Fifth Element. Yeah, you know, so like

708
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: a sassy, smoky Fifth Element with Bruce Willis.

709
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: And it's because you know, that's the first real thing

710
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: you've seen the man, and that's really what I wanted that.

711
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: Effect facts, Yeah, it works. I want to jump ahead

712
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: a little. One of my favorite albums of all time

713
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: is bow Down Gangster Killer and Dobe Buelers Fucking just

714
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 2: one of my favorite songs to ever be made.

715
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: Uh.

716
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: You guys were in this mix with Common when Common

717
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: dropped I Used to love Her? Yeah, and he had

718
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: his verse that you guys reacted to on West Side Slaughterhouse.

719
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

720
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: Is it safe to say west Side Slaughterhouse was kind

721
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: of like the conception of West Side Connection.

722
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: It was was now it was on.

723
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious, did you guys take real offense to

724
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: like when you heard I used to love Her? Like,

725
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: what were your guys' thoughts? Like, because you guys are

726
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: motivated enough to put that record together.

727
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: I think what it was was we saw a wave coming.

728
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: I think we had saw first before before we took

729
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: any offense to that record. It was records like fuck Compton,

730
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: they came out, Tim Dogg, Tim Dogg, and and so

731
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: we felt like the more successful we got, the more

732
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: pot shots we were starting to hear from New York

733
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: and starting. Yeah, it was it was called keep it real.

734
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: That's what they keep it real. We don't keep it real.

735
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: This is real hip hop. We're keeping it real here.

736
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: So that was the kind of line in the sand

737
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: between patting us on the back for being this new

738
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: phenomenon to how many records these niggas gonna put out?

739
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: You know what I meant it first, but damn. And

740
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: so we were starting to get pot shots, and I

741
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: think Common just got caught up in all that because

742
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: Uh master As had did a record Caross slaughter House

743
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: where he was like, that's why we did West Side

744
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: slaughter House because he was saying our records was just

745
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: saying murder, murder, murder.

746
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: Kill, kill, kill, And I mean, I know he's amazing,

747
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: but Born de Role is like, if you heard it,

748
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: you might think exactly.

749
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: So we were starting to take offence, and you know,

750
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: at first, we was like, Yo, we're just now getting

751
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: accepted in hip hop. Let us be cool, you know,

752
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: and not trip because we all know how to turn

753
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: a party out, and it's just gonna go bad. It

754
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be nobody, gonna have no funds. It's just

755
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna go bad for us. But it was like, this

756
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: is all we could take. You know, Somebody gotta somebody

757
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: gotta stop this, or everything we've accomplished will be erased

758
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: and negated and looked at as like just a blip

759
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: on the hip hop radar. And I'm like, no, we

760
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: have to solidify what we've done in hip hop, and

761
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: the way to do that is to band together under

762
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: this West Side umbrella.

763
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: So the Bitch and You comes out. Yes, when you

764
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: first hear it, Yeah, how do you feel?

765
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: Well? I mean I had a record, It's a hard record.

766
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: I had a record cock. I had a record cocked

767
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: and loaded and ready to attack. Okay. Then I get

768
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: a call from Minister Farrah con after this is after

769
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: the Bitch and You drops, Yes, okay, But he caught

770
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: all the rappers together because he saw getting out of

771
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: hand and basically was like, if y'all don't call some

772
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: kind of truce with this. Somebody is gonna could die

773
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: and not because as somebody from the West sidegunt tack

774
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: com or somebody from Commons side gonna attack us. But

775
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: now you have maybe a third party could do something

776
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: to one of us and then we're gonna blame each other.

777
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: So when you beef in public, it gives you or not,

778
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: it gives an opportunity for third party. And we was

779
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: thinking government CIA to step in and kill one of us,

780
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: hurt one of us, and then we're gonna.

781
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: Start blacken each other, incite this, divide and conquer.

782
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So.

783
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: In the by the way, that's a real thing, without

784
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: a doubt. That's all that's happened in different facets of

785
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: the country over time, like and and to destroy other

786
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: countries and coops and all.

787
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: It happens. For sure, it happened to the Nation Islam

788
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: with Malcolm X. They was beefing. Somebody come in and

789
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: kill Malcolm X. Now one side blaming the other. Other.

790
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: Now that being said, it was it was just in

791
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: the best interest to to stop the beef right there

792
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: and not do the records that I had what was

793
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: the name of the song you had cocked and loaded?

794
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I got to look at my notebook.

795
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: It's buried in my notebook. I haven't it was it

796
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: was crazy though, yeah, I mean I was. It was

797
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: a disc record.

798
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: Did you think The Bitching You was a hard record?

799
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: I didn't feel those things from it, Okay, that's fair,

800
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: you know. I didn't feel like, uh, you know, I.

801
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: Was just wonder because obviously you guys are like, I.

802
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: Mean, we're cool now, but I just want to hear

803
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: the record, and I think I only heard the records once.

804
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: I only heard it once when somebody did you only

805
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: want to listen to it one time?

806
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: You're not going to go back into to it once

807
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: unless you're Drake and everywhere you go it's playing.

808
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: And you know, to me, it was, uh, you know,

809
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: it was cool.

810
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that was, you know, an interesting time for sure.

811
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: On the new record, you say that you're here to

812
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: fight reptiles and lizards.

813
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:16,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

814
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: Now, I know that you and I are probably a

815
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: little more on the conspiracy side than other people. Huh

816
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: did you mean like reptilians lizard people?

817
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: I think that's what we all fighting somewhere somehow.

818
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm just curious. Yeah, that stuck out.

819
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: It is Yeah, I think we all fighting some kind

820
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: of forces that are not happy with humanity and trying to,

821
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, make sure we're self destruct.

822
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: Do you feel like I don't want to get too

823
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: specific with like any sort of politics or anything, but

824
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: you know, with what's going on obviously the election just ended.

825
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: There is a real economy in division. Yeah.

826
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: People's entire livelihoods and their houses and their car notes

827
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 2: are paid based on peddling divisive material to divide people, right,

828
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: And I'm just curious from your perspective, you've I mean

829
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: you've seen, I mean, you've been a part of so

830
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: many different like eras of the country as a black

831
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: man in America. Obviously, fucking you've talked about I think

832
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 2: a bird in the hand and the bushy, the first bush, Jesus,

833
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: the first bush, you know what I mean? Even Reagan,

834
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: it was were you wrapping in before?

835
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: Man?

836
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: But I'm just curious, like, what what would you say,

837
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: like if you had to kind of as somebody who's

838
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: kind of seen I don't know if the country has

839
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 2: ever been this divided, Like, what do you think would

840
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: be the healing factor.

841
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: For people to mind their own business a little more?

842
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: I love that, Yeah, I think if if you wait

843
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: make up, and you in social media and you're looking

844
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: at everybody business and you affected negatively, and you start

845
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: affecting people around you negatively because of other people's business

846
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: that you've been watching, that's a problem. Minding your own

847
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: business don't just mean ignoring the world. It means everybody

848
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: got shit they need to do in their own life,

849
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: and they need to mind their own business like you

850
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: mine a goal mine, like clean your shit up, fix

851
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: your shit. You got your loose sinds, type your loose sinds,

852
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: work on your business, and not worry about the fate

853
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: of the world, because nine times out of ten, you're

854
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: getting frustrated and worked up about somebody else's business and

855
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: some shit that don't even concern you.

856
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're getting frustrated and worked up because that's

857
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 2: with the purpose of probably that's what that's what they

858
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: want exactly.

859
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: And you're not hit till you hit, and you're not

860
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: hurt till your hit. So stop waiting. You know what

861
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: makes a soldier fight on through the bullets that are

862
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: coming at him? Why does he keep going? How does

863
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: he keep going when he knows bullets are incoming? Because

864
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: you're not hit till you hit, so you might not

865
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: ever get hit. So why sit there and ship your

866
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: pants when you're not even hit. So most of the

867
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: time people are crying and yelling and this is my

868
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: life gonna change and my rights and it not even

869
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: really affects them, you know. They just get worked up

870
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: over other people's business.

871
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even like sometimes like they're getting worked up

872
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: over what they perceive to be factual when a lot

873
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: of times it's not.

874
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: It's not. You know, people always think they can sing

875
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: into the future on how it's gonna be, But that's okay.

876
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey man, we've lived through everybody, right, so

877
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. There's gonna be another president of four

878
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: years and another one after that.

879
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: I'm curious.

880
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: You and your wife are one of probably the most

881
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: successful marriage in hip hop at this point.

882
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: How many years thirty two? Uh, we've been together since

883
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, so I'm married in nineteen ninety two.

884
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: That's beautiful, as somebody I've been married for over five years?

885
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: What is the key to lasting that long? Because sometimes

886
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: me and my wife want to kill each other.

887
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you gotta want to be there.

888
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta understand the reason you married this person,

889
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: and you gotta want to be there. You gotta you know,

890
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: be a giver, not a receiver. And the more you give,

891
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 1: the more you will receive in a relationship. That's right.

892
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: And so you know, having somebody to go through this

893
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: crazy life with and if you guys can have each

894
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: other's back where it's us against the world. And the

895
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: thing is, when it's real tight, whether you're married or not,

896
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: y'all still be like that. That's a real commitment marriage

897
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: and all that just a license paperwork. You have to

898
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 1: be committed to a person for life. And you stay

899
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: down with her. She stayed down with you, and let

900
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: the chips fall what they may. And we could yell

901
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,959
Speaker 1: all day at each other, but still love your ass.

902
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: You Still we're still gonna be Yeah, I ain't going nowhere.

903
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: You ain't going nowhere. You know, we're gonna work through it,

904
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: live through it, and come through it, yo. Whatever.

905
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 2: Like how close or how far along was the idea

906
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: of the new n w A when like hello and

907
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 2: chin check and all that ship was like was it

908
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: was it like a thing that was getting worked on

909
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: or was it just a night because you guys were

910
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 2: I think there was this there was the source cover

911
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: that was.

912
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. We we were just you know, kind of figuring

913
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: our next moves in a lot of ways. We had

914
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: just really start to come back together after you know,

915
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: Easy passed away and it was just you did like

916
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: natural Born Killers. Yeah we did that, but that was

917
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: that was for the that was for the murder, was

918
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: the case soundtrack, and basically what happened. You know, we

919
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: thinking about, Okay, this is a project that we we

920
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: like working together. We could get together and do a

921
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: whole nother project. Then dra meet some kid named eminem.

922
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: Crazy some kid, and then and then it just was like.

923
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: Man and then after that he meets some dude named fifty,

924
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: and it was kind of like the hold on cue

925
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: I got. I got a few things to do before

926
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: we get to that, which is understandable.

927
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 2: And you guys were on the up and smoke tour together.

928
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we had fun. You know, we all went

929
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: out big tour.

930
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 2: I'm sad because I sold so many of my CDs

931
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: to the warehouse to afford my ticket in Phoenix, Arizona,

932
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: And that was one of the dates you were.

933
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: Not Yeah, when they put the tour together. I had

934
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: spot dates, so I had to miss one or two.

935
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: You miss Phoenix, Yeah, I was like, wait Ice Cubes

936
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: that performing the night?

937
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Yeah? That was trust me, I was

938
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: I was hating effect that I was a crazy somewhere

939
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: else on some smaller ship and I'm.

940
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: Like, ah, that was a crazy tour though it was.

941
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: It was. It was as fun and big and crazy

942
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: as you can imagine.

943
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: You had like that run like around the war and

944
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: peace times when you were like on Corn's followed the

945
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: Leader and then they were on your album and then

946
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: you were doing like a lot of rock festivals or

947
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: shows like I remember just like seeing that shit on

948
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: MTV news all the time. Yeah, what like like what

949
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: made you and Corn like hit it off to where

950
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: you guys did a couple of records together.

951
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: You know, after doing a Lola it was a tour

952
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: in ninety two. I was, you know, hot with that market.

953
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: So it was always you know, me and my management

954
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: looking for ways to connect with another rock group or

955
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: do some cool shit. And I ended up getting with

956
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: new management and they one of the groups was Corn,

957
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: and so I dug the record because it was incorporating

958
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: hip hop into this rock and sure you have a

959
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: breakbeat breakout and then they go back and yeah, I'm like, oh,

960
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: this shit is dope. So meeting them, you know, just

961
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: saying how cool they wash, it was like, dude, you

962
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: know we're working on some shit. If you want to

963
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: come get down, let's get down. And we did stuff

964
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: together and then we went on the Family Values Tour.

965
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 1: That's the tour. Lamp Biscuit, Yah, yeah, Limp Biscuit, that's

966
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: like yeah corn Limp Biscuit. A group called uh minished

967
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: Well I wasn't Ministry, it was damn They are called

968
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: how Many Values to Ours? That's a fucking legend. The

969
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: front ro Romstein, Wait, Romstein was on that.

970
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: Trash mash and and then ice.

971
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: Cube them motherfuckers a day on.

972
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: Like h that's just such a crazy, like sonic opposite

973
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 2: of the spectrum like industrial German rock.

974
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: These motherfuckers will put theirself on fire in the middle

975
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: of the Ramstein Dudes, Romstein, Dudes, Ramstein, Ramstein. This motherfucker

976
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: would be performing and then they would come and put

977
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: this vadast ship on him, right, not ship, but it

978
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: was like some uhlobby ship.

979
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: That they could on fire without killing.

980
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: Such as motherfucker on fire? Was this before you went on? Yeah?

981
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: So so then you're like, I gotta follow the dude

982
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: who just set himself on fire?

983
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, this ship was good. No, it was after us,

984
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, it was. Thank god it was after us,

985
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: but we would be tripping off these dudes. Man, they was.

986
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: They was like, this was some of the crazy ship

987
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: I ever seen.

988
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: And I mean yeah, the mosh pits had to be crazy.

989
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: It was fun. Yo.

990
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: What would you say is your worst movie out of

991
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: all the bigger ones? Your worst big budget movie?

992
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: What's your I'll go first the Triple X. Uh well,

993
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: I would say, uh Ghost of Mars Is I forgot

994
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: about that one. You're right about that. That was I

995
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: did some ship called Rampart with I remember Rampart with

996
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: Woody Harrelson. Yep, that's garbage. Okay, it wasn't. Fucking Triple

997
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: X is better than that ship. Come on, man, Triple X.

998
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: The only reason to me, Triple X had the wrong director.

999
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: They had an old school director when they should have

1000
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: got somebody wasn't exhibiting Triple X too. Yeah yeah, yep, yeah,

1001
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: that was a Sam Jackson and William Dafoe. It was

1002
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: just the wrong director. You know. He didn't he didn't

1003
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: add no, no, no spice to it. It just felt old.

1004
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: What is your, in your opinion, your most underrated movie

1005
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 2: that you don't get You don't you know? I mean

1006
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: you've done all about the Benjamins. Yeah, for sure, I agree.

1007
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: Follow Yeah, Mike Apps, you feel like that's the Mike

1008
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: Apps movie that really made people be like, oh ship, yeah,

1009
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: Mike Is.

1010
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: I love working with Mike. He's he's uh, he's my

1011
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: favorite person to work with.

1012
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: Is Uh. It's gonna be difficult to pull off this

1013
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: new Friday movie. Obviously, I'm excited because John will not

1014
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: be in it.

1015
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: Well, I think Friday's great. Is Friday has a universe

1016
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: of people. It does, and if we make a movie

1017
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: that that is on point, he will be missed, but

1018
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: he won't ruin the movie.

1019
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: You gotta have unk in it. Of course, something has

1020
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: gotten with the barbecue spot. I got it, I got it,

1021
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 2: I got this watch. Did you like my video?

1022
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: Oh? I loved it. It wasn't entertainment, it was great.

1023
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: And and then did you was that a wig you

1024
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: had on it? On? Now? Hell? Yeah, you know that

1025
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: you don't look like Moore's day for real.

1026
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: This is this is this is uh okay, so kill

1027
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: it will comes out and that's your last album in

1028
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: which you had like long hair and the death certificate

1029
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: you got the fade. Yeah, were you like worried about

1030
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: cutting your hair and like because you just like it

1031
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: was there's almost like this era of Cube where it's like, okay,

1032
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: there's Jerry Jerry curl Cube and then haircut Cube.

1033
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't worried at all. I had to cut my

1034
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: hair because for acting. No, I just got a pool. Okay,

1035
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: I could afford a pool. I was in that shit

1036
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: every day. And if you can imagine how Jerry Curle

1037
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: look after you swim every day for a whole summer. Shit,

1038
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: that shit was looking like you know afro. So I

1039
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: was like, I love this fucking pool. I'm gonna be

1040
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: in this shit every day. So I cut my hair

1041
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: because I couldn't. I couldn't keep it from looking fucked up.

1042
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: Seventh season of Big Three just wrapped.

1043
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: Eighth, Yeah, seventh, we're going into today.

1044
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: Going into the eighth season. Uh I know that. Uh

1045
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, for people who watch it, they just love it.

1046
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: They appreciate it, and I'm just curious, like, did you

1047
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: ever figure out what the disconnect has been with like

1048
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: the NBA?

1049
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what it is. That's easy. They mad

1050
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: they didn't think of the ship and they don't want

1051
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: somebody like me running something like this when they believe

1052
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: they own basketball, but they don't because.

1053
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: They have the w NBA, they have the G League,

1054
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: They have.

1055
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: Every base covered except for what happens when players, but

1056
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: they don't own basketball. Correct. Nobody runs and say, ma,

1057
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm going out to go play NBA. They say I'm

1058
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: going out to go play basketball. So there's room for

1059
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: the Big three to exist, and we will exist. We

1060
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: don't even need the NBA at this point. Do you

1061
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: think it's an Adam Silver thing? Of course, it's a

1062
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: straight I mean, is it a smart business decision not

1063
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: to work with me and the big No? Okay, so

1064
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: it got to be personal.

1065
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me.

1066
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: It don't make crazy man sense, as my man keyboard was.

1067
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: Saying, because you could like embrace it and then it

1068
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: could be this cool place where players go. It's like, hey,

1069
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: you retired.

1070
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: They didn't think of it. They don't want me running it.

1071
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: They don't want to work with it, so we don't

1072
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: need them now. Maybe four or five years ago we

1073
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: probably wanted them to do it, but now they were

1074
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: just being on.

1075
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 2: Well they never embraced and won back in the day.

1076
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: Remember this is bigger, I mean not bigger. This is different.

1077
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: It's different. But I'm saying like they didn't embrace that

1078
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: because they they didn't want, you know, that style of

1079
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: play to come into the NBA for the Big three?

1080
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: Is there?

1081
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: I know I saw somebody. There's going to be expansion,

1082
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: right like new Ts and all that.

1083
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're selling teams, so teams are now going

1084
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: to be represented by cities and then after we sell

1085
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: a lot of twelve, we'll expand.

1086
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: So right now there's twelve teams that people can invest in,

1087
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: eight because four have been So if somebody wanted to

1088
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: invest in the team and bring it to Phoenix, what

1089
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: would they have to do?

1090
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: Shit, have some MS, A lot of MS, A lot

1091
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: of MS, I mean, you know, a reasonable amount.

1092
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 2: A reasonable amount of MS. Yes, some fucking money per se.

1093
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fair. It is fair to.

1094
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the album. I've heard that it's

1095
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 2: amazing good.

1096
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: I believe it is you know it's called man Down,

1097
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: and you know I have to accumulate it the record.

1098
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: That's what I ended up calling it because it felt

1099
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: like a record talking about a lot of different subjects.

1100
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: A few of them have to deal with the state

1101
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: of men and how you know, how are added two

1102
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: d is in twenty twenty five four Pussification of men? Yeah,

1103
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's sad, and so you know

1104
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: it's really about us standing up, you know what I mean.

1105
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: Don't be a pussy all your life. Be a dick

1106
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: sometime and get hard. I like, what, yo, was it cool? Going?

1107
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: I went to Joe Rogan spot in Austin with Freddy

1108
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: Gibbs when Freddy Gibbs did it, Yeah, he's got like

1109
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 2: it's very like an unassuming building, like you wouldn't even

1110
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 2: know it's there. Yeah, but let you go in and

1111
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: it's like this is a place, Like how cool was that?

1112
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 2: Being able to link with him. Obviously a lot of

1113
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: people would say he might have just you know, thrown

1114
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: the election in someone's favor, but because he is the

1115
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: biggest media platform in the world.

1116
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, real cool, you know, being able to you know,

1117
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: see how he get down And I've been a fans

1118
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: of that dude since fear factor for sure, and then

1119
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: to see him you know, getting to the UFC and

1120
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: really be you know, extremely you know, passionate and full

1121
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: of information. Yeah, which to me helped you know, grow

1122
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: that sport and get it to where it is. I

1123
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: think his analysis was just as good as the fight.

1124
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: And so to see him using that platform and being

1125
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: able to to talk about things in a in a

1126
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: more you know cool setting two or three hours long

1127
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 1: form really uh deep dive into each topic in each

1128
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: conversation without feeling like you rushed or you you can't

1129
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: get out of something cool that you think people will

1130
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: want to see it here. So it was real cool

1131
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: to hang with them and hope to do it again sometimes.

1132
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: Any features on the album on Man.

1133
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, we definitely got features Exhibit Killer, Mike Buster,

1134
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: Snoop forty, Short, j D, j D, Jermaine pre no

1135
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: Nah Nah j D from the Lynch Mob. I mean,

1136
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't know man JD from the Lynch Mob, and

1137
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: we got Corrupt on there be Real Yo.

1138
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 2: The it felt like the Mount Westmore album. It was

1139
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: a little disappointing in terms of just like the impact

1140
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 2: it made.

1141
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: It Yeah, what do you think.

1142
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: There were some dope joints on there? But where do

1143
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: you think the Mount Westmore project? Because I think what

1144
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: my favorite part that came out of that was you

1145
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: guys did shows together. Yeah, and it gave fans like

1146
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: you could go see all of y'all together on stage,

1147
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: which was amazing. But in terms of like the actual

1148
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: body of work, it got like mixed up with the NFT.

1149
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: It was delayed a bunch of times, Like yeah, it

1150
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: just you know, the the NFT thing was it was

1151
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: a mistake in a lot of ways, and it's just

1152
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: a project that kind of took too long to hit.

1153
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: And you know, you got four people trying to come

1154
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: together to do something and everybody else they couldn't hold

1155
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: on no more, so they had to go do their

1156
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: own solo shit and couldn't really work the record or

1157
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, promote the record or really.

1158
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: Tour the record, right, I mean there was some dope.

1159
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys have some records they got played

1160
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: on radio, and shit.

1161
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: It's a good record. You know, just wish we could

1162
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: have wish it would have came out on time and

1163
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: and you know we had time to really work.

1164
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 2: It for Let's say there's a seventeen year old kid

1165
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: who hears it's my ego for the first time, and

1166
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 2: they hear you I was Kendrick before Kendrick. Yeah, explain

1167
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 2: because I said, I.

1168
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: Know what you mean, but like, well, I started kicking

1169
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: what we call street knowledge a long time ago, and

1170
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: it's a blend of you know, what's happening on the

1171
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: streets and what's happening in the world, and you know,

1172
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: being able to do it in a dope way in

1173
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: a hip hop form and still be you know, fresh

1174
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: but informative is a style at that. Uh. You know,

1175
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: I've helped coin with a few other ogs, you know,

1176
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: like Iced Tea and Carras and you know, the Meley

1177
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: mel and rock Kims of the world. But and you

1178
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: were like also a good kid in a mad city

1179
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: before that was the thing, Like yeah, I mean, you know,

1180
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: we all was like you were like, you know.

1181
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 2: Trying to like get your shit together, going to you

1182
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 2: went to Arizona to go to college and shit, but

1183
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 2: you still were kind of telling the story of your

1184
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 2: of your neighborhood and of your Yeah, and you know, I.

1185
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: Start rapping at fourteen years old, So it's it's an

1186
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: age where you trying to figure out which way you're

1187
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: gonna go. You're gonna go sports dope, gang banging. Luckily

1188
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: hip hop was right there, and so that's the door

1189
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: I went through and it's gotten me here. Uh So,

1190
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: you know, the line is not a disc The line

1191
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: to me is paying homage to what Kendrick has done

1192
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: in the Gang to be honest, or I wouldn't even

1193
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: say that about to do the halftime show. Yeah, so

1194
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: salute to all those Grammy nominations, Salute to him being

1195
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: a true artist and not compromising the art for the fame.

1196
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: And I believe I'm the same type artists.

1197
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: Well, he just got I think six or seven Grammy

1198
01:11:58,439 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 2: nominations for Not Like Us Today.

1199
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: Good.

1200
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if like no Vassiline in the Night

1201
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 2: would have got like Grammy nominations and melted the Academy down.

1202
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: Ship.

1203
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: They're still not even showing the Best Rap Album award

1204
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 2: on TV, which is fucking preposterous to me.

1205
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just you know, it's them trying to keep

1206
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 1: some sense.

1207
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: Of number one genre of music in the world. But

1208
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: you know, let's not show you the Album of the

1209
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 2: Year A couple of quick things. Would you ever do

1210
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 2: a podcast under the right circumstances, because I feel like

1211
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 2: if you were just like speaking on your perspective of

1212
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: current events or music, I just feel like it would

1213
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: be Yeah, I can make it work. It's an eight

1214
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: figure idea right there. You got to do it, man,

1215
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: can make it work. And I mean obviously there's been

1216
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 2: guys who have done it. Would there ever be a

1217
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: world in which you would ever make up with mac

1218
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: ten and do another West Connection album?

1219
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1220
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 2: Time will tell. I don't know fair enough. Yea, the

1221
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: new album Man Down? Yeah, uh, what is the what's

1222
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: the release date?

1223
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: November twenty right around the corner?

1224
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: We got you and Snoop dropping Like yeah, Snoop's back

1225
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 2: with Dre. This new record feels like classic Cube, like

1226
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 2: the West Coast got.

1227
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: This ship right now? Man? Why not?

1228
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: You know the dog pounds dropped on Death Row.

1229
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: Hey, we ain't never went nowhere, We just got busy,

1230
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: but we're back.

1231
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 2: Do you take like when you when you hear that

1232
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 2: term like legacy artists, I feel like that's a good thing,

1233
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 2: is that you're still here and you're still go.

1234
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know you still hear people still give

1235
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: a fuck, you know, I know, uh, you know, people

1236
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna put titles on on on you when you've been

1237
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: around for decades, and that's cool, you know, as long

1238
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: as they still paying attention, you know, calling the old

1239
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: school og legacy legend, you know what I mean.

1240
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: Just don't call me whack and you're I know you're

1241
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 2: working on a lot of other shit, but uh, besides Friday,

1242
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: any other movies in the works you're writing in the oh.

1243
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely got we got some things cocked and loaded.

1244
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it, man. I feel like

1245
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 2: it's been a few years since I've seen you, like

1246
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: on a on on a big screen, so it's been

1247
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: a minute, do you uh randomly? Also, I just got

1248
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 2: to give you props because you also have besides Friday,

1249
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: the twenty one Jump Street. Yeah, ship like you're you're

1250
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: rolling that as the as the Captain is so good.

1251
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks, Oh, it's so good.

1252
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: I just got to give you props. I can't wait

1253
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 2: to hear the album. Man, the new record is dope.

1254
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: The remixes out, will bust a rhyme and kill a

1255
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: Mike and uh yeah, man down. November twenty second, ice

1256
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: Q one of the greatest of all time. Yeah yeah,

1257
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate you man, Luke, I appreciate you too.

1258
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: Oh.