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Speaker 1: Walk up to the NFL Daily presented by DraftKings Sportsbook,

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Speaker 1: where we only feel truly alive after that camera light

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Speaker 1: turns on. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: podcast studio with my friend Steve Weisch and Patrick Claybond.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you guys. You ever your television

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Speaker 1: professional stop. You know, you ever have days where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're you're a little worn down a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but then that light turns on and then it just

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Speaker 1: it takes over. You feel it. You have that light

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Speaker 1: ever turned on for you and you didn't feel it?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it happens, but you know this is I'll

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Speaker 2: use it. I'll use the gym analogy.

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Speaker 1: You know. Okay, some days you just don't feel like

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Speaker 1: you have it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but once you're once you're about ten minutes in

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Speaker 2: on that elliptical, that treadmill, then you're rocking and rolling

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Speaker 2: and you're having all these great memories and you're and

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Speaker 2: you're running from people trying to kill you.

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Speaker 1: You know, you really got it going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to write in the gym you got

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Speaker 3: you got you know, for Steve, you got four hundred

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Speaker 3: pounds on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to come back up and go. Patrick.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't always happen for me in the gym. I'm

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Speaker 1: just more like, okay, we're at like twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Is that enough?

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Speaker 3: But having not been mentally prepared and been on television

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Speaker 3: and embarrassed myself, Yeah, in the past, I used to

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Speaker 3: keep a note my wallet. It's like I wrote it

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Speaker 3: down after a really bad hit where it was a

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Speaker 3: national hit on CNN, some news story that I will

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Speaker 3: not be unprepared on TV ever again.

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Speaker 1: That go.

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Speaker 3: And so before the honestly like to kimono open here,

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Speaker 3: before everything starts, I tend to close my eyes, take

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Speaker 3: a deep breath and going to a place.

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Speaker 1: M That's good that it has crossed my mind because Steve,

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Speaker 1: You've had, you know, far more live television experiences me

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Speaker 1: And sometimes I'll be watching I'll be like, I wonder

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Speaker 1: if Steve ever just you know, man, he's just he's

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Speaker 1: just he's just grinded down and he's not feeling it

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Speaker 1: because you could never tell, you could never tell all

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 2: But Okay, as Patrick said, you know, you make that

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Speaker 2: one mistake and it's a right somebody else sitting in

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Speaker 2: this chair baby on Zillow.

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Speaker 1: You guys have been sitting in this chair every preview show,

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Speaker 1: and this is one of the best slates I think

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Speaker 1: we've had all season. Sneaky fun, a lot of just

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Speaker 1: B plus's a minuses, But we got to start despite

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Speaker 1: it not being the smallest spread of the week with

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Speaker 1: what to me is just my choice, is the game

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Speaker 1: of the year? Love it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right there with you, Greg, because it's the

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Speaker 3: next game for the Philadelphia Eagles and the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Both played in so far last week in prime time.

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Speaker 3: Both got wins, the Ravens playing host of the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: favored by three with an over under of over a

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Speaker 3: half one hundred one and a half points. Full CBS

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Speaker 3: treatment with Jim, Tony and Tracy on the call. Greg

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Speaker 3: at the Ravens defense got pressures thirteen different players, four sacks,

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Speaker 3: pass breakups, all without Rokuan. Was that the improvement that

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Speaker 3: you waited for? And if it is, is it enough

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Speaker 1: It's the start of it, and hopefully Rocan Smith is

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Speaker 1: back this week. Two games where you give up a

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Speaker 1: combined one touchdown. That's impressive, even if it's not against

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Speaker 1: the most explosive offenses in the league. Where good offenses

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Speaker 1: those Steelers and Chargers, this is a whole different sort

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Speaker 1: of challenge. Can you get any pressure rushing the passer

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Speaker 1: on Jalen Hurts because the Rams really didn't last week

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Speaker 1: and they have a pretty nice passers. There is one

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Speaker 1: or two plays I know you're thinking of that Jared

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Speaker 1: matchup I guess I'm thinking of even more when the

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Speaker 1: Eagles have the ball. Is okay? These cornerbacks for the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: it's gotten better, Nate Wiggins, and you bring in Tredevius White,

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Speaker 1: But aj Brown to me is the best wide receiver

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Speaker 1: I know he's missed some games this year, but he

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Speaker 1: challenge and test to see if this Ravens defensive resurgence

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Speaker 1: is real. I'm not ready to go there. Quite yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I am because you know, one thing you've noticed

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: He's a cleanup man, and I think in part because

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Speaker 2: the tackling up front has not been good from the secondary,

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Speaker 2: so he's a guy kind of like Ridney McLeod back

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Speaker 2: ro quand Smith back will help. But the one thing

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Speaker 2: that the Ravens do that the Rams did is they

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Speaker 2: only play four up front. They really will give you

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Speaker 2: rarely give you a five or six man front. Look

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Speaker 2: the Rams did that, Saquon got through and then it

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Speaker 2: was just daylight right because the Rams dbs aren't as

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Speaker 2: fast as Ravens DB's. So I do think that they've

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Speaker 2: they've turned the corner, especially on the red zone defense,

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Speaker 2: and if they stop making some of those penalties in

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Speaker 1: I think they've hurt themselves.

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Speaker 2: Patrick and I were talking you know, the other the

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Speaker 2: calls against Marlon Humphrey were a little little touchy right there.

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Speaker 2: But I am in on this, wow, And I also

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Speaker 2: think the Ravens three point favorite. It's not the home

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Speaker 2: field three points, it's the Lamar Jackson three points. All

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Speaker 2: things being equal for both of these teams. What Lamar

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Speaker 2: is able to do and taking care of the ball,

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Speaker 2: passing inside and outside of the numbers, just outside of

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Speaker 2: the numbers people he's doing that, I think he's at

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Speaker 1: This and I like the Ravens on this, but they're

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Speaker 1: not equal. If we take out Lamar, the Eagles are

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Speaker 1: a better team. Now Lamar is that reason? I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. If he's gonna win, it's gonna be. Why

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Speaker 1: are the Eagles a better team? Better defensive line, better

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Speaker 1: maybe that's that's close, But I think better overall defensive talent,

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Speaker 1: just mean, if you pull Umark Jackson on the Eagles

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Speaker 1: right now, I'm good. I don't care about the NFL rules.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Vegas right now and I'm putting that

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Speaker 1: ticket down. That team's not losing. Disclaimer, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the discrepancies are nearly as big as you're. Okay, good,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad. I hope you're right because I'm leaning Ravens,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly bias here, but I feel like the discrepancy

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Speaker 3: corner position, where the Eagles acknowledge the lapse, they go

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Speaker 3: out and get two really good players really in the draft,

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Speaker 3: versus on the other side. I think Baltimore felt good

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Speaker 3: about the Nate Wiggins pick. Uh some signs to be

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Speaker 3: positive about. The Chargers targeted.

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Speaker 1: Him nine times.

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Speaker 3: He was clearly the player that the Chargers wanted to

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Speaker 3: and so like coming into this game. If it's Devonte

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Speaker 3: Smith and Nate Wiggins, no there's no confidence that presumably

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Speaker 3: Baltimore is gonna do everything they can to prevent that matchup.

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Speaker 3: One thing that they did change was actually having Kyle

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Speaker 3: Hamilton play safety. Yeah, against the Chargers, where he lined

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Speaker 3: up forty nine of his sixty snaps playing safety, versus

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Speaker 1: Season, we're only thirty percent.

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Speaker 3: He's playing like linebackers, where he's up there around a

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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, and so putting your best player in

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Speaker 3: a position where you can make plays definitely helps the

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Speaker 3: defense seem more aggressive. They seem more on the same

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Speaker 3: page despite not having the signal caller out there. I

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Speaker 3: think there's reasons to be positive, but there's also the

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Speaker 3: aj Brown factor and I need I need Deontay Johnson

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Speaker 2: So funny you say that he doesn't even count anymore, man, It's.

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Speaker 1: So funny you say that. Locker said the same thing

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Speaker 1: when we watched. He's like, I feel like he's always fallen.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's a good note. It's that's that's

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be the number one now Zave Flowers at

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Speaker 1: Deantay Dungeons, which I was never buying, but like he's

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Speaker 1: not even the number three. I'm trusting Aglar certainly well,

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Speaker 1: live Count Andrews and likely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Bateman has really stepped up as well. Like

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Speaker 3: Shad didn't make that first play in the first half, right,

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Speaker 3: and Lamargo's right back to him at the end of

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Speaker 3: makes that touchdown catch where we weren't necessarily expecting these

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Speaker 1: It's been very solid. Somebody that Ravens were lo I'm

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Speaker 1: a little worried early in that Chargers game, the play

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Speaker 1: Roquon hasn't been amazing in coverage years, this year's been

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Speaker 1: anywhere close to amazing, and so that's that's a concern.

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Speaker 1: I think when you're attacking that part of the field,

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Speaker 1: that's probably more of a Dallas Goddard. Now they don't

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Speaker 1: really have a great uh slot receiver, but certainly a J.

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Speaker 1: Brown is a slot receiver at times and the best

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Speaker 1: one in the league when when he is but now

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Speaker 1: the Wiggans is healthy.

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Speaker 2: Right now, they're going more of a three corner instead

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Speaker 2: Stevens on one side, uh, you've got I'm I'm blanking

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Speaker 2: on our guy forty four Marlin Humphrey and so you

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Speaker 2: got a much faster nickel package and they're running more

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Speaker 2: of a two linebacker three corner. Look when they do this.

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Speaker 2: So again I'm telling you, I don't think this is crap.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I want to spend a lot of time

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Speaker 1: in this game, like more than all the other of

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Speaker 1: the game. So I'm just throwing it out there for

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Speaker 1: the producers. But I do want to take a moment.

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Speaker 1: And I know you're where your rooting interest lies in

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Speaker 1: this game, Patrick, but you do have an imposing quarterback

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Speaker 1: who is very much on Patrick's corner and maybe has

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Speaker 1: been earning your affection. Let's listen to Jalen Hurts after

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Speaker 1: last week's game. We just got to keep building. You've

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Speaker 3: You know, Momentum is is the fakest thing out there

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Speaker 3: because it can end to the beginn at any moment.

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Speaker 1: This is this is the guy, this is the I

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Speaker 1: It's true that was our halftime break of this game talk.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got to buy after this. They did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as a quarterback, he's always gonna have chances to

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Speaker 1: It's not a discussion.

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Speaker 3: But Saquon does it in week twelve, and he has

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Speaker 1: Last note I have the Eagles have outgained their opponents

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean the other thing is, you know, you

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Speaker 3: And to Greg's point about the Ravens being tired, probably

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Speaker 2: I mean what Seattle's done defensively, I know we talked

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Speaker 5: But I mean the line says it is. They're only

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Speaker 5: They've got to get out early. That's not the greatest

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Speaker 1: Gino or well it's obviously Gino. Okay there, you can

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Speaker 2: He's like fourth and tackles on their team since he's

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Speaker 1: Okay, I would love to do that, And I would

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Speaker 1: on early downs, I don't think the Jets will be

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Speaker 1: able to run, and he's cooking on late downs. We

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Speaker 1: could have a frustrated Aaron Rodgers dirting some balls or

436
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Speaker 1: just throwing the ball away because he doesn't or taking

437
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Speaker 1: some sacks, and think about the next excuses he's gonna

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Speaker 1: make where he takes shots at national reporters saying they

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Speaker 1: don't have integrity. It's just like, I'm so sick. That

440
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Speaker 1: was like, I'm so sick of the fake laughter that

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Speaker 1: he had when when McAfee was like talking about the

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Speaker 1: reports that were happening. He's just like, it's just like,

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Speaker 1: what a phony. Well, maybe you should tye Taylor next week. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's that's commitment to excellent stings. I don't I don't talk,

445
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Speaker 1: but people in my people in my circle don't talk

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Speaker 1: to those people. I don't know why anyone would be

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Speaker 1: talking to those people. You maybe look inside yourself and

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Speaker 1: think about why they don't like you, because that's that's

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Speaker 1: the answer. The answer is people don't like and respect

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Speaker 1: you enough to keep your business private, and so they're

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Speaker 1: putting it out there. That is the answer.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe some people have lost their jobs once you

453
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Speaker 2: because you know now that you're on the scene, and

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Speaker 2: they got some things to get off of their chest.

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Speaker 1: Which is funny because he went through and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they you know, made Salad the goat, and now then

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Speaker 1: they made Joe Douglas to go and they made my

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Speaker 1: guy hack the goat, and it's like they they made that,

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Speaker 1: like the just the lack of accountability is very consistent.

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Speaker 3: Eventually they is located in the mirror. Shout out today,

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Speaker 3: whoever they are.

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Speaker 1: Can't fix stupid.

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Speaker 3: It's time for the Game of the Week presented by

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Speaker 3: DraftKings Sportsbook. The Los Angeles Chargers two and a half

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Speaker 3: point favorites at the Atlanta Falcons who come off a

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Speaker 3: buye who come off that loss in Denver a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks ago. Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins on

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Speaker 3: the call frustrating performance.

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Speaker 1: Greg from the.

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Speaker 3: Chargers pass catchers in so far against the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: A even more perhaps frustrating performance by Kirk Cousin this

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Speaker 3: and this Falcons offense, who bounces back and gets a

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Speaker 3: win in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the Chargers a little surprise there the favorites

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Speaker 1: this game. It's a perfect example of why I like

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Speaker 1: this Week thirteen. There's a lot of little games like this.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, Okay, two teams that aren't at the

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Speaker 1: top of the NFL, but show me something here between

479
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Speaker 1: these two teams coming off disappointing results. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a great test for this Chargers team because I think

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Speaker 1: this harbought Chargers team, I mean for the Falcons rather.

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Speaker 1: I think this Chargers team is almost like the dividing

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Speaker 1: line of whether you're gonna beat yourself or not. They're

484
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Speaker 1: just a solid team right well said, they're there. I

485
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Speaker 1: think they're going to make the playoffs, but they're they're

486
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Speaker 1: right on that border of like playoffs or not, but

487
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Speaker 1: are you gonna beat yourself? Because the Falcons do seem

488
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Speaker 1: like a team capable of beating themselves. I think the

489
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Speaker 1: Chargers are so solid I trust them a little more.

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Speaker 2: You nail this, and I don't think the one and

491
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Speaker 2: a half is enough for the Chargers. M I mean,

492
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Speaker 2: granted they won't have JK. Dobbins, but they'll find a

493
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Speaker 2: way to run the football. But when I was looking

494
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Speaker 2: at the Falcons schedule and just watching some of their games,

495
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Speaker 2: they're not a tough team right when you look when

496
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Speaker 2: when you look at the teams who they've beaten, they

497
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Speaker 2: are finesse teams, right. They've beaten teams within their division.

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Speaker 2: They've beaten Dallas, they got Philadelphia, I think in Week two.

499
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Speaker 2: Everyone else they've lost to brings a fist to the fight,

500
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Speaker 2: and they have not managed to stand up, especially on defense,

501
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Speaker 2: all the way from the front through their secondary.

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Speaker 1: We know they've got some.

503
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Speaker 2: Great players, Jesse Bay, j aj Terrell, but just when

504
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Speaker 2: it comes to physicality, especially on the defensive side of

505
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Speaker 2: the ball, that's not it.

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Speaker 1: And if you saw some of the stuff.

507
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Speaker 2: Joe Alt was doing early in the game, now later

508
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Speaker 2: in the game he was getting beat up a little bit.

509
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Speaker 2: But some of the things that this Chargers offensive line

510
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Speaker 2: can do to them, I just think the Chargers, unless

511
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Speaker 2: they're are just out of focus and I don't see

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Speaker 2: them being that team. Greg, I think you nailed it

513
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Speaker 2: when you said they don't beat themselves. I just think

514
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Speaker 2: they're the type of team that Atlanta does not want

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Speaker 2: I have to contend with.

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Speaker 3: And it would be a first opportunity for Atlanta to

517
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Speaker 3: really just beat somebody right where it's tough, it's hard fought.

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Speaker 3: You know Kirk Cousins, they've they're one in five when

519
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Speaker 3: he has a sub ninety passer rating. They haven't really

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Speaker 3: been able to ground out a win no where it's

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Speaker 3: they They've won in score fests, they've they've played opponents

522
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Speaker 3: who made mistakes. If the Falcons can can somehow come

523
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Speaker 3: together and win this game, but I feel like for

524
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Speaker 3: this Chargers pass rush, it's going to be like when

525
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Speaker 3: the the rookies always talk about the game slowing down

526
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Speaker 3: to go from Chase and Lamar and coming up with air.

527
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Speaker 3: It's so fine to fly into Atlanta and going at

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, who who's you know, made one person miss?

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Speaker 1: They know where he'll be. Yeah, that is true. I

530
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Speaker 1: did like hearing out of Raheem Morris that they want

531
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Speaker 1: to do some more play action coming out of the buy,

532
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Speaker 1: that that's been a focus to them. We've been talking

533
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Speaker 1: about that him at all hasn't been able to so

534
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Speaker 1: can they Maybe they took the old way they were

535
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Speaker 1: playing and they took it as far as they could.

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Speaker 1: Actually think they've they've done pretty well considering some limitations

537
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Speaker 1: on offense, they're big. They're bigger issue is is the

538
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Speaker 1: defense the toughest. I've never seen a team that struggles

539
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Speaker 1: so much to get off blocks. I do think Raheem

540
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Speaker 1: has been an aggressive coach. I think they've done a

541
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Speaker 1: good job coaching and Jim Harbor I was a little conservative,

542
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Speaker 1: So maybe that helps. Atlanta's going for some fourth downs.

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Speaker 1: They take some chances in this game. It's a really

544
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Speaker 1: intriguing game. They will not the Chargers, that is have

545
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Speaker 1: JK Dobbins, our guy Yeh sprained MCL. When I heard that,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that's good news, but considering the

547
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Speaker 1: history of injuries he's had, I was fearing maybe he

548
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Speaker 1: was out for the year. And they will have him back,

549
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Speaker 1: and like I said, I think this is gonna be

550
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Speaker 1: a playoff team. But they have a lot of tough

551
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Speaker 1: games coming up, not a lot, not a lot of

552
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Speaker 1: automatic wins on their schedule, so they should have him back.

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Speaker 2: For the end of the season, and real quick when

554
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Speaker 2: say they don't beat themselves, Baltimore beat them the other night.

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Speaker 2: But if they hang on to some of those passes,

556
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Speaker 2: that's a lot more of a toe to toe battle

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Speaker 2: than what we saw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just especially coming down late.

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Speaker 3: There was of course there were the pass interference calls

560
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Speaker 3: that who you can have some discussions about, but that

561
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Speaker 3: qwentn Johnson drop on third down. Actually, the best catch

562
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Speaker 3: of the night by a Charger was Herbert randomly spun

563
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Speaker 3: to the sideline and through a ninety five mile an

564
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Speaker 3: hour ass ball behind Gus Edwards and he reached up

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Speaker 3: in those the best playoffs saw all night. Other than that,

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Speaker 3: and there's some lad catches are really really not a

567
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Speaker 3: lot of success. To speak, Will Disley played well. We'll

568
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Speaker 3: give credit to Will Disley.

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Speaker 1: That will be an off season focus is upgrading the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver position.

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Speaker 3: They got add speed playing against the Falcons defense plays

572
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Speaker 3: a lot of his own. Ajterrell career high seventy seven

573
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: point eight percent of his snaps and zone coverage this season.

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Speaker 3: A lot of that may be related to their inability

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Speaker 3: uh to rush the passer. Where the Ravens had success

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Speaker 3: as a pass rush group, especially late against this team.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't see the Falcons uh doing that,

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Speaker 3: you know, unless there's some sort of miracle on the

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Speaker 3: buy and shout out to Raheem if they're able to

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Speaker 3: pull that off, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think they will. No, that was our game of

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Speaker 3: Let's go to another team in the NFC South that's

587
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Speaker 3: on a bit of a hot streak as we get

588
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Speaker 3: to another Los Angeles Sea, the Los Angeles Rams two

589
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Speaker 3: and a half point favorites on the road at Darren

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Speaker 3: Rizzy's New Orleans Saints Kenny Albert, Jonathan Willema, Megan o'levi

591
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Speaker 3: on the call. It's a forty nine point over under

592
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: Steve As we have seen a whole lot of permutations

593
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: of this Saints team here recently. This recent addition is

594
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Speaker 3: it enough to come and get a win against a

595
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: solid Rams team?

596
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Speaker 2: So this is one and we were talking about earlier.

597
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: If Alvin Kamara can get going. He's a terrible matchup

598
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: for again the Rams linebackers if they can't get him

599
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: down before he gets ahead of Steam going.

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Speaker 1: In the past and and running.

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Speaker 2: Game or Taysom Hill, Taysom Hill has become like put

602
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Speaker 2: him in the MVP.

603
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Speaker 1: I'm joking. But the past couple of games, I mean,

604
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Speaker 1: what kind of weapon is this? He unlocks their running

605
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: attack with. I think he helps Kamara, they help out

606
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Speaker 1: each other.

607
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's been very interesting. But

608
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: I just think the Rams offense in this one here,

609
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: they get it going. I mean, they're they're gonna get

610
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Speaker 2: Cup going, They're gonna get Pooka is sick. I mean,

611
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Speaker 2: he's no matter how many people you put on him

612
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: or how you put him, he's gonna catch it and

613
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: he's gonna break the first tackle. I just think the

614
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: Rams offense is gonna be a little too much in

615
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Speaker 2: this game.

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Speaker 1: I like the number as well. I think it's gonna

617
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: be right around there.

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Speaker 2: But I think the Saints you're gonna have too hard

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Speaker 2: of a time stop in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about this game and

621
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Speaker 1: this this is a candidate for the Survivor Pick. Although

622
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: we talked a little ahead of time, and I just

623
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: found one. I think I maybe like a little more.

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Speaker 1: It's the game on our schedule. You think about that

625
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: for a second, because I don't know what I'm getting

626
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: out of the Saints team. They have played really hard

627
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Speaker 1: under Darren Rizzi. They you know, they smoke that the

628
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: Browns team in the fourth quarter. That was a close game,

629
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Speaker 1: but they got that win against the Falcons. I think

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Speaker 1: the Rams are a better team. Our friends over at

631
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Speaker 1: the Saints Block Party podcast had Jordan Rodrieg from NFL

632
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: Daily and The Athletic on and their host Adam described

633
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: the Rams as a good bad team and maybe the

634
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: best of a good bad thing. I think that's about right.

635
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: They're a five and six team. These two teams are

636
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Speaker 1: kind of in the stage of the season where it's like,

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Speaker 1: can you give us one more week? For our fans

638
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: just want one or two more, Like the loser of

639
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: this game is not going to feel like they're going anywhere.

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00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Even Saints fans have convinced themselves like, hey, this is

641
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Speaker 1: kind of fun. Give us one more week if we

642
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Speaker 1: beat the Rams. It's like this division, it's at least

643
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: it's we're having some fun give us one more week.

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Speaker 1: Rams fans, give us one more week. Get to six

645
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: and six, we might be tied for first place. There

646
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: will be one big game backwards. If you'll lose this game,

647
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: you're not feeling great. I don't think the Rams are

648
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: a cohesive group, and that rushing attack is a lot

649
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: and matches up well with the Rams. I think the

650
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Rams will win, But I talk a lot about teams

651
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: find their level. Sometimes there's like a records game where oh,

652
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: they should be better than their record, or they they're worse.

653
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: And these two teams are exactly the records they should be.

654
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: The Saints are a four and seventeam. They've now found

655
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: their level after winning two straight. They are a four

656
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: and seventeen. They're not the worst teams. And the Rams

657
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: are about a five and sixteen.

658
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one where you shay yourself. None of these,

659
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: neither one of these teams. You're gonna go on a

660
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 2: four or five game win streak to finish out the season.

661
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: The Rams have the potential offensively to do it, but again,

662
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: just so many the cracks they've shown lately on defense,

663
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't see them stringing something together like this.

664
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Speaker 3: I feel like the Rams have a puncher's chance in

665
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: every game. The things that they do well, that's true.

666
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: They can execute at a very high level, and they

667
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: can knock you out if need be. If it's going

668
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: twelve rounds, the Rams are probably gonna eventually, you know,

669
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: have some sort of error. But like we saw in

670
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: that game in Seattle, they stayed in long enough for

671
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford to throw that big right hand and punch

672
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: the Seahawks out, and the Seahawks that have had to

673
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: bounce back from that. I'm just looking for if if

674
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: Darren Rizzy gets a win here, he'll be a third

675
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: of a way to the best Dennis Allen season in

676
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Speaker 3: his coaching career.

677
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: He would start three and oh, I mean he might

678
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: be pasted it three And oh, that alone is like

679
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: more exciting than anything of them winning late in the scenes.

680
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: Shout out to our fellow NFL media podcaster, by the way,

681
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan, who wasn't getting any run under Dennis Allen.

682
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: And when I watched that Browns Saints game back, eventually

683
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: he's suddenly playing like forty five to fifty Staffs and

684
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: he's making a bunch of plays. So nice to see

685
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: the long time Saint getting it done under the new staff.

686
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: It's like he's reborn. Quote da, sometimes you gotta pop

687
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: on the show.

688
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: Ultimately, that may be what the season turns into is

689
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: just how bad was Dennis Allen? Like this, we may

690
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: have a chance to do some scientific work and determine

691
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: what the real value or lack thereof Dennis Allen was

692
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: bringing to the New Orleans Saints. And and a win

693
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: here against this up and down RAMS team could mean

694
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: a lot.

695
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: I let's put a pin in the survivor talk and

696
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: fully talk it out after the next game, and then

697
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: we can we can make our pick. Oh about that? Yeah,

698
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: because yeah, because we'll have our talk. Then let's take

699
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: a quick break, actually, and yes we would be back.

700
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about an old AFC East rivalry

701
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: that's no longer an afcast back on NFL Daily. And yeah,

702
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: maybe the kids don't remember, but back in the day

703
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: Colts Pats, it was twice a year. And I'm not

704
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: talking like the later Peyton Manning Tom Brady where it's

705
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: once in the regular season, once in the playoffs. That

706
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: was a thing too, and that was a real deal rivalry.

707
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: But when I was growing up Colts Pats twice a

708
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: year all the way through. Actually a quarterback by the

709
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: name of Jim Harbaugh. I remember a game he had

710
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: against Drew Bledsoe. I'm like a playoff Colts team in

711
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: the mid nineties that was right at the end before

712
00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: they they realigned. That's absolutely right, Jim Mora was in

713
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: the mix. Now now we got Anthony Richardson versus Drake May,

714
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: which for two teams that are under five hundred makes

715
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: this inextremely watchable game to me. Yeah, very watchable.

716
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: And the folks in the Desert determined it's a two

717
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: and a half point favorite in the Indianapolis Colts on

718
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: the road in Foxborough forty two and a half on

719
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: the over under Spirodiitis at of mantre Leta and a

720
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: dd Kikawala on the call greg where we saw a

721
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: dominant defensive performance by the Colts because they limited the

722
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions to twenty four points, which in my mind

723
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: qualifies as one of their best defensive performances of the year.

724
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: Problem is they only were able to score six. Jonathan

725
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: Taylor really couldn't get things going, and this high variance

726
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: passing attack saw the low side of the high variants

727
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: with some bigger completions that were not.

728
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they won't have Josh downs this week most likely.

729
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Ian Rapaport, our insider said that he is likely to

730
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: be weak to week with a shoulder injury, and he's

731
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: really key for what they do. That's disappointing. But Shane

732
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: Stike and I think pointed out correctly after he watched

733
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: the film what I thought watching that game was. I

734
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: thought Richardson is building and despite the completion percentage in

735
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: that game, it was a good performance by him, and

736
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: they're getting more cohesive. They need to be able to

737
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: run the ball. But this is a coaching mismatch to

738
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: me overall, I'm just not impressed with what I've seen

739
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: out of the Patriots coaching staff, making the same sort

740
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: of mental mistakes over and over on defense, just false

741
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: starts galore, penalties galore on both sides of the ball.

742
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: I think they had thirteen last week. Really poor offensive line.

743
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm considering them as the survivor pick them

744
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: or the Rams. I think are interesting road options. We've

745
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: taken a lot of the good teams this week. Just

746
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: something to think about as we talk about this game.

747
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: I guess I like.

748
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 2: That thought because normally, you know, I mean, I love

749
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: Drink May. I think he's going to be a star,

750
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: and just some of the things I've seen out of

751
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: the Patriots. But they seem almost to the point like

752
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: they've given almost all they have and they're just out.

753
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: They're just I mean, I know, I know it's early,

754
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: but I mean you see that sometimes like, man, I've

755
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: gotten everything.

756
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: I've squeezed all the juice out of this one. Two

757
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: more teams that haven't had a bye, by the way,

758
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: so there might be some of that playing now. Both

759
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: these teams are among the six pack that are finally

760
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: get there buy in week fourteen.

761
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just seems, you know, maybe they're to that point.

762
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: I do like the Colts because the physicality that they

763
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: play with on both sides of the ball. We'll see

764
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: Anthony Richards and this this is a really good game

765
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: because the Drake May factor. I mean, he's just so good.

766
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: We know the Colts, they don't vary up their defense, Potch.

767
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: They let the guys a front get after it and

768
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: they let these guys in the zone in the back

769
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: end try to make play. So I think I think

770
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: Drake May's gonna make some plays with his arms and

771
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: his leg But I just think the Colts are a

772
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: better team. And I don't know if I'm that comfortable. Yeah,

773
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm probably more comfortable. We go Survivor with.

774
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: With Rams or with Colts with Colts. Hmm.

775
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: I am also look at this taking the Indianapolis Colts,

776
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: who on defense have a statistical anomaly. So if we

777
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: go to the leading tacklers in the NFL right now,

778
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: Zire Franklin one hundred and twenty three, I can Nick

779
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: Cross one hundred and sixteen, Roquan has one hundred and ten.

780
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: E J.

781
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: Speed has one hundred and eight. Yeah, there are three

782
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: Colts in the top four in the NFL in tackles

783
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 3: right now. They see a lot of action.

784
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: That's the way you want. That just means they're always

785
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: at your offense isn't having a lot of plays.

786
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is despite that, they were able

787
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: to do what they did against the Lions. I'll be

788
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: at a David Montgomery less Detroit Lions in the second half.

789
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: This team faced a lot of adversity on the defensive

790
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: side of the ball and it's still managed to be successful.

791
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 3: And I believe in the offense I do. I think

792
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: they'll get it together now.

793
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: The Patriots have had these really down games, and this

794
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: tends to happen with a lot of teams, especially immature teams,

795
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: and I have seen that they have usually bounced back

796
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: from their worst performances. I don't think they're done for

797
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. I just think the coaching

798
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: staff for the Colts is significantly better and that even

799
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: though they're not a great team, their defense has played better.

800
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: I like them better with Richardson playing the way he

801
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: is now, and I think they're a tier above the

802
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: Patriots where they are. They're an average NFL team to me,

803
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: and the Patriots are far far from that. And I

804
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: hate I hate to keep picking on Mayo, but like

805
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: sometimes you take on the personality of your coach and

806
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: these postgame press conferences where he says these little things

807
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: and people get on him for these little things and

808
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: you don't want to make too big of a deal,

809
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: but he's like, I can only do so much after

810
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: they cross the lines. It's like the sloppiness with which

811
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: he talks to the press, it's like the sloppiness on

812
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: the field he keeps he keeps putting his foot in

813
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: his mouth. He's like me, if I was an NFL

814
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: head coach, you know how many times I would say

815
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: the wrong thing? I'd be out by week five.

816
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: This is one of those things, like we've heard for years,

817
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: really good players becoming coaches expect everybody to have their

818
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: same work ethic. You know, there's some of their values

819
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: and things like that, and if you don't see it,

820
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: you lose it, like he does.

821
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: Girod Mayo was a grinder of a player. Maybe he's

822
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: not seeing that all the time. I just don't think

823
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: they've been particularly well coached s gommatically on defense either,

824
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: So that's that's more my issue. Mike McDaniel was just

825
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: it was like easy buttons all day. That thing could

826
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: have been like a fifty burger that those Dolphins put up.

827
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: It was bad.

828
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes a lapse in talent maybe could kind of limit

829
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 3: your options as a defensive staff. But I do agree

830
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 3: that those things probably matter more than what he says

831
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: in the in the press conference is Greig which you know,

832
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 3: zero points were scored.

833
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: I get it. I want to get back.

834
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 2: It's a linebacker thing, though, because typically your leading tackles

835
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: play on the worst team because they're on the field

836
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: all the time. But in Gus Bradley's scheme, those are

837
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: the guys asked to make all the plays. So I mean,

838
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: think about Bobby Wagner and those guys back in the

839
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: day when Gus coached him, Alex Anzelooni, when he was

840
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: playing with the Yags. That's that's just kind of but

841
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: it is an anomaly.

842
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: I see them on the upward trend. I watched that

843
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: Colt Lions game closely, and that game could have really

844
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: been been different on both sides. Well, I just think

845
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: they're getting better. So all right, we're going survivor against

846
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: my Patriots. A big, big spot for you to crake

847
00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: made a.

848
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: I can't we can't wait till Alex van Pelt puts

849
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: one on you.

850
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've backdoored ourselves in a way for to enjoy

851
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: this either way, I can't.

852
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: Believe we've done this. I love it. I love it.

853
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to another game, another divisional matchup,

854
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: actually the first divisional matchup that we've been able to

855
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: discuss here today.

856
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers doing.

857
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: What they do late this season, playing a division rival

858
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: late the Cincinnati Bengals hosting the Steelers.

859
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: The Bengals three point favorites. How the hell?

860
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: When I saw that, I was like, okay, I'm reacting now, like, no,

861
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 3: is that right?

862
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: I mean I saw that on here is like, there's

863
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: no way? Why not? Okay, it's great? Why not? Steve?

864
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: First Off, Cincinnati's not a very good football team. Okay, okay,

865
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: we know the Steelers have had what two touchdowns in

866
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: their past two games. They're kicking a lot of field goals. Yeah,

867
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 2: a lot of people are scoring points on the Bengals,

868
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: and this is one. Now, I will say this. I

869
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: was at the game in Cleveland when the Steelers I thought,

870
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: I know, some people were really encouraged by the Justin

871
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: Fields rotation. I thought it broke up some of the

872
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: flow of the Steelers offense. I think this is a

873
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: game will actually will work in their favor. I think

874
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: kind of confusing some of the key pieces and scheming

875
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: some of the key pieces against a familiar opponent could

876
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: work against a team that's leaky in some areas. I

877
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: do think the Steelers need to get Naji Harris a

878
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: little bit more involved. We saw last week they went

879
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: really with Jalen Warren. I think this is a game

880
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: where they can bully the Bengals. I just think after

881
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: the loss to Cleveland, there's some things they can clean up,

882
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: like blocking Miles Garrett. They've got Trey hendrickson this week.

883
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: That's something they've got to figure out. But I just

884
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 2: think overall, their defense is not going to get scorched

885
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: by Joey b and Jamar and I distinct the offensively.

886
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: They'll fix some things. It's a tough spot.

887
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: The Bengals have found and located ways to lose football

888
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: games late, even even spots that you don't necessarily expect,

889
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: like they're you know, former All World kicker as a

890
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: rookie going into so far and missing two key field goals,

891
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 3: late turnovers, late, scoring every drive, but then mysteriously malfunctioning

892
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: towards the end of games.

893
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

894
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: The three points, Greg kind of feel like, you know,

895
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: America's familiarity with the Cincinnati Bengals leaning to where the

896
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: odds makers perhaps care and I say this because I

897
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: say this all the time, perhaps care more about what

898
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: the public is going to do than what's gonna happen

899
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: in the actual game, because that's what influences money going

900
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: in their particular direction, because I would not favor the

901
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals, especially over a team that's had the success.

902
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: I'm pretty I'm fairly confident I picked the Steelers, unless

903
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: unless I did to try to play.

904
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: Cary think about it, because you're right, like, week after week,

905
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: we just keep slightly overrating the Bengals. I picked against

906
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: them a lot, but just thinking it's gonna come back

907
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: and underrating the Steelers. The Steelers have found a way

908
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: to win these sort of games. This is really, this

909
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: is finally it. I feel like every game the Bengals

910
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: play lately is like, all right, well, they gotta get

911
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: this one, and then it's the next week after losing

912
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: another heartbreaker, all right, well, now they gotta get this one.

913
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: This is kind of the end of the road. I

914
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: know the schedule eases up after this game, although they

915
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: have the Steelers again, but at some point you're four

916
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: and eight, like you're done. You're done in a good conference.

917
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: If you're four and eight, this really is the end

918
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: of the road for their hopes beat a good team.

919
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: They just can't beat. They keep being close against good teams.

920
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: I think they're one and six in one score games.

921
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: This season. You gotta do it. I picked them to win.

922
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know why, other than I think

923
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: the Steelers defense in the back end maybe does have

924
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: some vulnerabilities. T Higgins was awesome in that Chargers game,

925
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: and now they're coming off of by everyone's healthy and

926
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: just ken you outscore or the Steelers. You're making a

927
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: face of me. No, this is all. I picked the

928
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: home team type of game. If it was in Pittsburgh,

929
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: pick Pits. Well, I'm gonna be at this game.

930
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a high of twenty nine degrees, Okay, Okay,

931
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: So when you got weather like that, are you going

932
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: deep shot ball?

933
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: Are you going run the football and pound it? Okay?

934
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: And that's one thing that the Bengals cannot do. Steelers

935
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: getting Alex Heismith back. Bengal's coming off of by Steelers

936
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: a Thursday night game, so they've had a couple extra

937
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: days to prepare with some salt in their mouth. I

938
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: think Pittsburgh comes out and it plays a good game.

939
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: Here some stats for you. During the seven quarters where

940
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: the Steelers didn't score a touchdown. This is from the Athletic,

941
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: almost forty percent of their plays went for zero or

942
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: negative yards. They didn't have a target for Mike Williams

943
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: in those seven quarters, so it might be a combination

944
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: of things that Mike Williams isn't the guy coming off

945
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: the acl right now you're making.

946
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, I mean, I mean, is

947
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: that really a swing vote? Is that really a difference maker? It?

948
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: Well, but they would hope that he would be a

949
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: difference maker because maybe they're a little thin, maybe not

950
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: a team that's taking advantage of weak secondaries, bad safety

951
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: positions like the Bengals, like like you should because they're

952
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: wide receivers just aren't that great and they're not. They're

953
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: and they're number one wide receiver who is great is

954
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: an insane person. I mean, our friend Andrew Siciliano pointed

955
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: this out to be how on the hail Mary. I mean,

956
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't even trying to get the ball, He's just tackling.

957
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: What is this? He's just crazy, man. He's awesome though,

958
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: but he is crazy. Russ. Another stat from those seven quarters,

959
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: four for eleven in the red zone. And they haven't

960
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: really run the ball very well. So I haven't, but

961
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: I know it's a better matchup.

962
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: But the Bengals are giving up thirty points a game

963
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: to plus five hundred teams height.

964
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: Them got in my ear and reminded me I actually

965
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: did pick the Bengals on game debut.

966
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: Switch it.

967
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 3: I might switch, you know, we've we've got a couple

968
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: hours to make that decision. But the Bengals not mathematically eliminated.

969
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: They're currently at twenty three percent with a win. If

970
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: they lose, it'll be down to five.

971
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: Percon twenty three relatively high. And they do get the Cowboys, Titans,

972
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: and Browns. I know the Browns have been a little

973
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: feisty after this before finishing with the Broncos and SiO.

974
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: So if if you can get this one, I am

975
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: buying that they're in the mix. I would agree. But

976
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. This is the end of the

977
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: road type of game. Should be a proud team. This

978
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: is a team that was a couple of plays away

979
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: from winning the Super Bowl. It could get blown up

980
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: if they do not win this game and they do

981
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: not make a player.

982
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: Jamar Ches and Joey b are gonna be happy if

983
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: they lose this game. Yeah, they haven't be happy. Yeah,

984
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got to win this game.

985
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 3: So after Dan Moore had his issues with Miles Garrett,

986
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: he goes up against Trey Hendrickson, who's got thirty three

987
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: pressures in five sacks in one hundred and thirty snaps

988
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: one on one against more So.

989
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: I think was a healthy I think was he a

990
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: lot of two tighten Darnel Washington's gonna be playing that

991
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 2: third tackle for the stuff that dude.

992
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: All right, let's leave that one and go to the

993
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals at the Minnesota pickings three and a half

994
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: point favorites over under his forty five Joe Davis, g

995
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: reg and Pam Oliver on the call. Greg, we saw

996
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: a Cardinals offense that was so hot really get stifled

997
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: by Mike Max defense in Seattle, going up against the

998
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: Brian Flora's defense that just saw Caleb throw for three

999
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yards.

1000
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Who are these interesting point there that the Flora's defense

1001
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: is taking on a little bit of water. They're not

1002
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: blitzing as much. Kyler's really struggled against the blitz. Looked

1003
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: at the numbers this week twenty fifth according to PFF

1004
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: against the blitz fifth when he's not pressured. All the

1005
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: actual numbers success rate, all that stuff really goes down.

1006
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: So maybe this is a week Flores dials it up

1007
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: against and for the Cardinals. I think it's a real

1008
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: test of toughness. Young team, new head coaching staff, who's

1009
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: done a really good job overall. You really just got

1010
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: handed to you in a big spot on the road.

1011
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: Now you have to go on the road again against

1012
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: a very challenging team, a type of game that can

1013
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: make or break if you're really a team that's gonna

1014
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: be in it here for the long haul. I don't

1015
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: even need them to win this game, just just have

1016
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: it come down to the end and be representative of

1017
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: the Cardinals because I still don't feel like I totally

1018
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: know who this team is. It's a bit of like

1019
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: a mental and physical toughness test, I think for this

1020
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: team that I think has just been playing over their

1021
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: heads slightly all year, and maybe they can keep it going.

1022
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: You know, they're a physically tough team on both sides

1023
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: of the ball. I will give them that, But you know,

1024
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: you talk about the blitz, Let's not talk about pass

1025
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 2: pressure blitzer. They're gonna Brian Floyd's gonna run blitz. They're

1026
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: gonna gap this thing up across the board. They've got

1027
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: edge setter to not let Kyler get up there, and

1028
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: they may not get that upfield blitz rushed.

1029
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: They may do the kind of picket fence thing just

1030
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: to not let them leak.

1031
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: And then they've got some guys who can get in

1032
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: there and make plays because they wrote the secondary rotation

1033
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: can get those quarterbacks when they try. You know, Josh

1034
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: mun tellis, you know Harrison, guys like that. You know,

1035
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: I'm interesting if Minnesota's offense can get it going. I mean,

1036
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: I know Jj and add we give them props every week,

1037
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: Donald props every week. I think I liked the three

1038
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: and a half number for Arizona to beat it.

1039
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: I like the Vikings to win.

1040
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: But I think this is going to be a real

1041
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: tough game because I don't think Arizona gets the credit

1042
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: of physicality. But I think the question of consistent physicality

1043
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: is one that they do need.

1044
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: To ask Vikings fans actually this week, this is the

1045
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: week they decided to say we're not getting enough credit.

1046
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: They are nine and two, they're fifth in the NFL

1047
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: in point differential. They've been extremely consistent as a team,

1048
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: even the two losses they had in a row. It's

1049
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: not like they just weren't there and it was against

1050
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: good team. It was understandable. Like they've been very consistent.

1051
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: And they've been able to execute when the things that

1052
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 3: have been good for them aren't necessarily That's a great point.

1053
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 3: Like the game in Jacksonville where the offense and Sam

1054
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: Donald did not have things go on, the defense able

1055
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 3: to pick them up. There the game last week where

1056
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: the defense gives up back to back scoring drives by

1057
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: the Bears, late teams gives up on an onside kick,

1058
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: they getting overtime. Donald them go out there and execute.

1059
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: Where Sam Donald in terms of passer rating games over

1060
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: one hundred, it's him and Lamar right now, and then

1061
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: everybody else like Sam Donald playing well in spots in

1062
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: Jordan Addison. I think Sam Donald threw the ball twenty

1063
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: two times last week. Nine of those completions went to

1064
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: Jordan Addison. Yeah, I mean, I mean twenty two completions

1065
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 3: last week, Nine of them went to Jordan. I mean,

1066
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: how many did JJ have? He didn't have hardly any,

1067
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: not very many. He did draw a deep pass interference

1068
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: that was able to set them up on the one

1069
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: yard line.

1070
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: Also, they did a great job pointing out on the

1071
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: broadcast on the first Addison touchdown, just how Jalen Johnson

1072
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: is just drifting and drifting backwards because he's worried about

1073
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: j J. Jefferson, and that opens it up. It's amazing

1074
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: because Hockinson had a great game too many You really

1075
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: have a lot of depth of weapon.

1076
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: Y Jones, and I think the tendency breaker was the

1077
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: Cardinals not having success in the red zone against Seattle,

1078
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: where some of you know, they're playing on the road

1079
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: against a good team, against an improving defense. They get

1080
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: down there, they actually had a touchdown call back for penalty,

1081
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 3: and then they had to kick a field goal that

1082
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: wound up being who the Margins I think slim in

1083
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: that game. I think they're also a slim in this one.

1084
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 3: I would agree, so slimming that. Once again, I can't

1085
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: remember who I picked.

1086
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: This is a tough one I pick. I picked the Cardinals,

1087
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: and I do worry that that's an early week pick

1088
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: of what I want to see happen versus really thinking

1089
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: they're a better team pound for pound than the Dolphins.

1090
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: But I mean, then the Vikings, there is something about

1091
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: this search bar defense you're talking about. They're up to

1092
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: twelfth and DVOA and maybe we'll make this a weekly

1093
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: segment because you're absolutely right. I looked at the players

1094
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: getting snaps for them. Last week, a man named Dadrian

1095
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: Taylor Demerson had sixty four snaps for them, and maybe

1096
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: the weekly segment can do we can tell you a

1097
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: little bit more about some of these players. A man

1098
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: named Nakwon Jones played a significant amount of snaps at

1099
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: nose tackle. He's a twenty six year old who came

1100
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: out of Michigan State un drafted, spent three years with

1101
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: the Titans bounce around and practice squads. Was on the

1102
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: Dolphins actually at one point this year practice squad, and

1103
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: then the Cardinals brought him back and now here he

1104
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: is playing significant snaps from the great town of Evanston, Illinois,

1105
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,959
Speaker 1: where my girlfriend was from. So yeah, great, here you play, baby.

1106
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, one search at a time, we will, we will

1107
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: do our jobs and find out more about this.

1108
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: Didn't even join the Cardinals actually until September twenty fifth,

1109
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: and here he is playing big time snaps for them.

1110
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love it, just getting getting a squad together.

1111
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: It's it's one day when they make the movie. And

1112
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon is doing that scene like a heist movie

1113
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: where you get everybody together. They're gonna make a movie

1114
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: about this Cardinals team, and I love it. Maybe this

1115
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 3: quote will be in it. Let's go to the Houston Texans,

1116
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 3: the up and down, very up and down Houston Texans

1117
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: as of late four point favorites at the Jacksonville Jaguars

1118
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 3: and all of their issues coming off of the bye.

1119
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: Kevin Coogler, Moose Johnston and Laura Oakman on the call.

1120
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: Steve back here in the division where we thought the

1121
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: Texans would experienced all that success with Nico Collins coming back.

1122
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: He played a great game, but they lose in the

1123
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: division to the Tennessee Titans. What if it happens again

1124
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: here in.

1125
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: Duval and Trevor's back, right, Trevor Lawrence is coming back

1126
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: off that shoulder injury for Jacksonville.

1127
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: He's gonna be fresh.

1128
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 2: They're getting both their running backs back, Etn and Biggsby

1129
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: are coming back, so they're gonna they're gonna feel fresh,

1130
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: and they know this Houston team might be questioning themselves.

1131
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: This is one and Greg, I think you alluded to

1132
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: this very early in the season, like nobody saw Houston

1133
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: coming they've tasted success or they smelling themselves a little bit,

1134
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: even getting some of the additions that they made. Stefan

1135
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: Diggs of courses off for the rest of the season.

1136
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: But they're just not They don't seem to have a

1137
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: good vibe.

1138
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: Now.

1139
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: This is the part of the season where we see

1140
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: teams do this year after year, kicking into gear and

1141
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: they get rolling. This is the game they have to

1142
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: do this. This five number, Houston favorite is way too

1143
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: big for me.

1144
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: Agree it was. It was too big. It was six initially.

1145
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: I think it's down to four now in some spots. Four.

1146
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: And the Texans are another one of those teams that

1147
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: could really use their by They're going to get it

1148
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: next week because they just they feel like they need

1149
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: a major reset. They got to unplug the they got

1150
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: to unplug the console or something. And because they can't

1151
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: find solutions, they're not doing a good job coaching. To me,

1152
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: because they have the same issues every week. Run blocking.

1153
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: I asked Seth Payne, who does a great job on

1154
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: the radio there in Houston, just what is up? And

1155
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: he pointed to the tackles who are really highly paid.

1156
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: Tunsl and Titus Howard in the running game that it

1157
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: really has not been cohesive because they are one of

1158
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: the worst running teams in the NFL despite having a

1159
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: great running back playing well, Like they're only i think

1160
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: four games all year in terms of a success rate

1161
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: being at a certain terrible level, and the Texans are

1162
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: two of them where they've just been in. Some of

1163
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: it is their tackles. Sorry, if you're not getting a

1164
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: lot out of your high investments in the running game.

1165
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: There was a two play sequence at the end of

1166
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: that game last week that really stuck with me. Second

1167
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: and nine in the on the goal line I think

1168
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: was second and goal on the nine late in the

1169
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: game where they're trying to win the game, and that

1170
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: was before fair Baron missed the field goal that would

1171
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: have tied it and just like five guys in the

1172
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: backfield wasting it down on Joe Mixon on second down,

1173
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: third down? The who are they playing last week Tennessee,

1174
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: they sent some extra rushers. Everyone's running through back to

1175
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: back plays where the offensive skill players had zero chance,

1176
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: negative chance of doing anything in the biggest moments of

1177
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: the game, zero chance, and then they missed the field goal.

1178
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: Like that's what's happening with this Texans.

1179
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 3: Team, and you really see the offense slow up when

1180
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 3: because Joe Mixon right now top five in the league

1181
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: and yards over expected. He's awesome on outside runs because

1182
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: looking at the way that Howard is blocking on some

1183
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 3: of these outside runs, especially in that direction, those a

1184
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: yards aren't expected because there's nothing there for Joe Leakson.

1185
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: And now you have to do it against Trevon Walker

1186
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: and Josh Hans Allen, two hammers where you're not.

1187
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: Moving those guys on the outside.

1188
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 3: In fact, that the Jags allowing the second fewest rushing

1189
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 3: yards over expected on runs to the outside, specifically because

1190
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: of the work that those guys were able to do

1191
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: against tackles that are better in the run game, right yeah,

1192
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 3: than Tunsel and Howard.

1193
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: I'm just man, Patrick that that that such good stuff

1194
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: because you know a lary Me Tunsel, this is one

1195
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: of the best athletes in the NFL. I mean, he's

1196
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: been banged up a little bit, but you can power,

1197
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: you can athlete them, you can pull him, and it's

1198
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 2: just not working. I mean, I don't know if this

1199
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: is something where that you remember Bobby Slowak, the OC

1200
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: was a guy who got head coaching opportunities after last

1201
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 2: year's first year's in oc why this run game isn't

1202
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: working because actually has been two years in a row

1203
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: where they have not run the ball. And now you're

1204
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: hearing people saying CJ. Shroud is starting to look at

1205
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: the at the pressure. You know, that's not him. He's

1206
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: somebody who felt very comfortable in the pocket last year

1207
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: doing what he does, and now if he's kind of

1208
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: anticipating he's gonna get hit.

1209
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: It's a seeing him regress some Now, he did have

1210
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: a lot of really special throws in that game, along

1211
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: with some really negative plays where he did seem to

1212
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: see the pass rush and you can see with his

1213
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: expressions and body language how frustrated he is getting. One

1214
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: note which we haven't mentioned on the game, were you

1215
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: guys aware Doug Peterson is the coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Still,

1216
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: we sort of left that two weeks ago and we

1217
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: assumed he wasn't going to be Remember when we got

1218
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: to the Bible, he is the coach. It's it's been

1219
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: it's been a game of survivor. I think that's good. Actually,

1220
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: why bother you don't have a better coach in the

1221
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: building at the at the end of the year, it's

1222
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: gonna happen and stuff. But if if it doesn't make sense,

1223
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: don't just do it, just to do it.

1224
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: My first time in Jacksonville for this regime, I was

1225
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 3: watching closely as Trent Balk and Doug Peterson were out

1226
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 3: there and practice at camp, and the was walking towards

1227
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: the coach, and the coach would continue to find a

1228
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 3: reason to walk, to walk around the other god just

1229
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: doing circles around the field. And it's a very interesting

1230
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: economy and it's a fun game of survivor to watch

1231
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: both of them.

1232
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: Respect respect to Doug Peterson, no shout out to coach,

1233
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: respect to Doug. They need to they need to have

1234
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: just a like a Doug Peterson appreciation Day during the

1235
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: Eagles playoff run, Like have him outside at the statue,

1236
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: just like remember remember when you were you were a legend.

1237
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: He still is a legend, still the coach. We're still

1238
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: doing this show. We got four more games to get to.

1239
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: We're going to take a break and we'll come back

1240
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: with the rest of the slate, including some primetime games

1241
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: that aren't what we expected coming into this. Back at

1242
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: NFL Daily, shout out to our broadcast career on this

1243
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: next game, I think Catalan Tiaki, Jason mccordy, a j

1244
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: Ross been doing a good job this year. J Joy

1245
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: is so good. He sees the game a certain way.

1246
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: He describes he is so good.

1247
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 3: And they get an opportunity to watch a young, hot

1248
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: quarterback with an offense that just put up a ton

1249
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 3: of points. I'm talking about Will Levis Washington Commanders, who

1250
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 3: are five and a half point favorites the over under

1251
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 3: forty five. We already discussed the broadcast crew as we

1252
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,959
Speaker 3: didn't know what to expect from this Tennessee Titans team.

1253
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: But now Steve, with Tony Pollard playing well, with Calvin

1254
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: Ridley and Will Levis playing well. Aside from a pick sick,

1255
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: sometimes you get got right. He got got against the

1256
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 3: Houston Texans, but he came back. They won the game,

1257
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 3: and the Tennessee Titans are fun. Steve, there, They're fine.

1258
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 3: I mean, we know they're tough team.

1259
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: Their defense, starred as one of the best in the NFL,

1260
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: kind of faded a little bit. But now Will Levis

1261
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: is playing well and he's got an opportunity to go

1262
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: against a secondary in Washington. It's a question mark. It's

1263
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: been their question mark all season long. They've been able

1264
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: to manage some things defensively because their front seven is

1265
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: so good and Frankie Luvu and Bobby Wagner. That's a

1266
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: Frankie louver reth. There you go, if there had to

1267
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: get that in. But you know this is one where

1268
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: Washington one. Are they gonna have any running backs for

1269
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: this game? All right, that's one thing.

1270
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1271
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson comes out, we don't. Austin Eckler, we don't

1272
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: know if he's gonna be in. Doesn't look like it.

1273
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: It's intrigue gaming their kicker. Oh man, last game killer,

1274
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: he's hurt now they just put him on ir right,

1275
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: So this is trick of the five and a half.

1276
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: It's probably should have done that before last game.

1277
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 3: If he doesn't he was hurt anyway. If he doesn't,

1278
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 3: if he doesn't play last week, they win. Yeah, because

1279
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 3: because nobody on the defense tackle Cavante Turpin. But Austin

1280
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: Cybert's effort was one of the worst that we'll see

1281
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: by a kicker on a kick return in a very

1282
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: very long time.

1283
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one where we're gonna have to see

1284
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: Jadon and Daniels come out and really ball out regats, but.

1285
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: They didn't deserve to win that game. Anyways. When you

1286
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: watch that game, the Commanders not like they played well,

1287
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: No they didn't. They made big plays and that was it.

1288
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: But they got dominated and pretty much every aspect of

1289
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: the game. But I think this is one where Jayden

1290
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: and Daniels can get it going. I mean him, it's

1291
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: Gary Terry and some plays. If they hit enough big plays,

1292
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: that's all they need. And defensively, I don't know. I mean,

1293
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: they're still trying to make Patrick. But they might get

1294
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,439
Speaker 2: Marshall Latimore back this week. I was told they weren't

1295
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: expecting him back into the following game, but he has

1296
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: practiced this week that if they get him on the field,

1297
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: they can move Mikey Sammers still back into the slot

1298
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: where he's like that little dude's a stud anyway, but

1299
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: a slot is where he really shines.

1300
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: That'll really help him in the game like that. That

1301
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: would be huge, especially in this game where the team

1302
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: they're facing has one clear number one receiver, where in

1303
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: the past that's that's a lot of more assignment. Now

1304
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley is it's quick that that's a tough assignment

1305
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: coming off of an injury, and maybe it's something where

1306
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: Latimore can single up Noah Brown has I mean not

1307
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: Noah Brown. Rather Ladim can single up you know, Westbrook

1308
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: a Keena on the other side and you can double

1309
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,479
Speaker 1: double Ridley. However it is that you want to run.

1310
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: That would be massive for them because that's been a problem.

1311
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: And Brian Robinson was at practice. That's a surprise that

1312
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: everyone who went crazy on the fantasy waiver wire for

1313
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: Jeremy McNichols, so we'll see it. Sounds like Brian Robinson

1314
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: might be able to play. It'd be huge for that.

1315
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: Injuries is big. I don't think Jayden is getting bothered

1316
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: by the Ribs at all whatsoever because them calling speed

1317
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: option and him running up the middle on one of

1318
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: their first snaps of the game and him not playing

1319
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: with any fear at all two point conversion in a

1320
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: big spot. Thought he showed enough in that fourth quarter

1321
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: of that game to really make you feel good. I

1322
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: don't rus he played. I actually thought he played a

1323
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: pretty solid game overall. That their shortcomings were more his

1324
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: guys weren't open, a couple of drops, a couple penalties,

1325
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: a little bit everything, and not getting helped from the

1326
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: running game. So I feel good about where he is at,

1327
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: but not good enough to give them five and a

1328
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: half points. I just just preview the Against the Spread

1329
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: picks pod that's coming up on Friday. It's gonna drop

1330
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: on Friday this week with Cynthia. Tennessee was my number

1331
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: one pick last year. Last week I was loving that

1332
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: eight and a half. They went and won out right.

1333
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: Wouldn't surprise me if they won out right this week either,

1334
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: Like I'd give a little edge to Washington, But to me,

1335
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: the Titans are better than their record indicates at this

1336
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: point in the season. In Washington, maybe it is a

1337
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: little worse.

1338
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, especially the way the Callahan has schemed

1339
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 3: up Calvin Ridley as of late Tony Pollard, kind of

1340
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: eliminating teams playing two high safeties and giving Calvin Ridley

1341
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of space to work for where it's

1342
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 3: not like Will Levis mak it some tight window throw.

1343
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 3: He's able to put the ball out in space and

1344
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 3: let Calvin Ridley use that adjustment ability to go get it.

1345
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: I have wondered and thought about this, Steve, because you

1346
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 3: were one of the very first people I remember several

1347
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: years ago to put this idea in my head of

1348
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 3: late season Cliff, and there it is. And for years

1349
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: I have wrote it off as some sort of statistical anomaly,

1350
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 3: just like a ghost in the numbers that sometimes shows up.

1351
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 3: And then we look at it and we use hindsight

1352
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: to say that this is always this is always what happens,

1353
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 3: and I'm starting to believe. And then and then I'm

1354
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 3: looking at Terry mclaughin running down the field on the

1355
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 3: right side to potentially win the game for the Washington

1356
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 3: Commanders late where he has been lined up five percent

1357
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: of the time this year, just thirty one snaps out

1358
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 3: wide adjustments like those, Do those make you believe that

1359
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: there's been a change or are you still a late

1360
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 3: season Cliff believer?

1361
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1362
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: I mean look, and again this is where I mentioned before.

1363
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: They have Anthony Lynn on that coaching staff or he

1364
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: may have to say it's getting cold.

1365
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: I know we can to give Brian Robinson.

1366
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 2: We have to pound the football, we have to protect

1367
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: our quarterback a little bit more, and the best way

1368
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: to do that is to run. Now that would not

1369
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: be easy to do con Tennessee, right, but they've got to,

1370
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: Like you said, that adjustment that's something they have to do.

1371
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: But Cliff, the numbers bear it out, talking to opposing

1372
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: coaches bear it out. So but you know, this quarterback

1373
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: is what he showed. That was a great point made

1374
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: when he showed late in that game against the Cowboys,

1375
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: he's he's got a little stuff to.

1376
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: Him that that was encouraging. Another point against Cliff in

1377
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: that game, for instance, the Cowboys kept running the same

1378
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: blitz with Parsons on the inside. The catame kept working.

1379
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: So that's that's coaching in game adjustments, that sort of

1380
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: thing of like we do one thing, do we do

1381
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: it well enough? And are we talented enough to really

1382
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: pull that off? Because to give Cliff credit, his scheme,

1383
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: I believe made the level of talent on the roster

1384
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: outside of Daniels and McLaurin look better than it really is.

1385
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: And that includes the offensive line talent, you know, and

1386
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: it concludes the skill position talent. You're throwing throw after

1387
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: throw to Noah Brown and on the biggest play of

1388
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: the game, they're thrown it to Baits what's his name,

1389
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: Jeremy Bates, John Bates, one of their tight ends, John Bates.

1390
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: And it's just not an overly talented roster. So it's

1391
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: it's a couple of things competing, and yeah, you're going

1392
01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: up against a Titans team where Levis, I'm not he

1393
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: hasn't taken as big a leap as Bryce, but they're

1394
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: kind of on a similar trajectory of second year players

1395
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: who got sat down for a little bit and it's

1396
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: come back and it's at least closer to the best

1397
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: version of I think that we're going to get out

1398
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: of Will Lewis taking away too many sacks still a

1399
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: big time mistake last week, but you also saw the

1400
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: big time throws last week. He made some great throws

1401
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: in that game. And so I think if you're a

1402
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: Will Levis family member or fan or fantasy owner, like

1403
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: I think this is very encouraging. This is kind of

1404
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: the Levis you want to see. I think his ceiling

1405
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: isn't like incredibly high, but this is you're making progress, all.

1406
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: Right, not not a full segment, but Gregor are ready

1407
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 3: to lock it in Will Levis quarterback, Tennessee Titans, twenty

1408
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 3: twenty five.

1409
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he will. Oh Okay, personally, I think

1410
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: Callahan is gonna want to his guy unless he takes

1411
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: another step like the step. We'll get to it. That

1412
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: that Price show. I mean they were last week, they won.

1413
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: They might win too many games to get his guys right,

1414
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: so maybe it'll be too difficult, but it's a good

1415
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: problem to help. I think he needs to keep it

1416
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: going and take another step even all right, the shoot

1417
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: or conversation charted Patrick.

1418
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 3: Another team, well, a team that feels like it is

1419
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 3: locked in. It's a young quarterback playing host on Monday

1420
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 3: Night Football to Miles Garrett and the Cleveland Browns the

1421
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos five and a half point favorites.

1422
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: It's m n F.

1423
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 3: So of course Joe Troy, Lisa on the call, or

1424
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: you could watch a couple of brothers do a do

1425
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 3: a game broadcast as well. Where So, Greg, we saw

1426
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 3: what Miles Garrett did against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Quinn Minors,

1427
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: Ben Powers, Garrett Bowles, Mike McGlinchey played well well enough

1428
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: to keep bow Knicks looking good against this Jim.

1429
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: Schwartz Stefens, probably because Sean Payton will get quick enough

1430
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: throws that that beats the pass rush, and he's been

1431
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: great at scheming up quick throws, and bow Knicks deserves

1432
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: credit when he is holding onto the ball and he's

1433
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: getting protected, he's pushing the ball down the field better.

1434
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: They pick out the matchups for Garrett sometimes. So look,

1435
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: if he wants to get over there on McGlinchey, I

1436
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna be pretty. And it's on national TV.

1437
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: He'll be over there against with Lynch. I know, my

1438
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: I know Miles Garrett always tries all that Patrick yeahoe

1439
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: on the Broncos to make him mad. I know he

1440
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: always tries, but he was pretty quiet and that that

1441
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,439
Speaker 1: one game against Talis Fuaga and the Saints. But man,

1442
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: he showed out on that prime type game. I just

1443
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: think he's got to show up and have a nice,

1444
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: nice game here, and it's it's a tricky one. I

1445
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: think their defense has enough just raw talent, with with

1446
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: Ward and and everything they have going on that it's

1447
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: certainly no gimme. The Browns are not. I think the

1448
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: Patriots are kind of a gimme for good teams for

1449
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: the most part. I do not think the Browns are

1450
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: a gimme.

1451
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. And the five and a half number to

1452
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 2: me is insane. Unless they is sane. I think I

1453
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 2: think they must think Jamis you can get up there

1454
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: and get winded.

1455
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: No James. They've had some bad games with James too,

1456
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: to be fair, they've had two great ones, two bad ones.

1457
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think you know, look, the offensive line,

1458
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: even as banged up as it is, they played a

1459
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: pretty dark good game against a really good Steelers front

1460
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,439
Speaker 2: right T. J. Watt wasn't able to really get going.

1461
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: They they called the game, well, Nick chops starting to

1462
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: get his legs back. Guys, they're they're they're gonna be able.

1463
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 2: They did some good ball control of stuff. Oh and

1464
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: let's not forget Greg and Patrick. This is the Jerry

1465
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 2: Judy game. Okay, I like that.

1466
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: That is a game.

1467
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy has shown up in some big spots for

1468
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: the Browns.

1469
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: Well, he is playing very well. I was gonna say,

1470
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: playing well, maybe he's gonna get that new contract, and

1471
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot. They got him on a very

1472
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: reasonable contract. I think they're feeling good about no abs

1473
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: exceedingly reasonable.

1474
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 3: And you know, playing against an NFL legacy, the son

1475
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 3: of a very good cornerback.

1476
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,839
Speaker 1: In best cornerback in the NFL.

1477
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,799
Speaker 3: Well, I'll talking about last week against Joey Porter Junior.

1478
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: I thought you were going past her ten senior.

1479
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 3: The circumstances are different, and if if if Vance wants

1480
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 3: to put P two on Jerry Judy, then perhaps the

1481
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 3: revenge aspect to get ratcheted up, but the difficulty also

1482
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 3: gets ratcheted up. I think I think that makes for

1483
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 3: the Elijah More game because I feel like Riley Mawson

1484
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 3: is dealing with an injury as well, in that number

1485
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: two in Denver might be in question because I feel

1486
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 3: like he was on the report this week.

1487
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think he's necessarily expected to play in

1488
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: this game. They're pretty healthy up front in terms of

1489
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: their their pass rush, and so that's a matchup. I

1490
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: like that the Broncos have really surprised us and they're

1491
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna be I don't know about a main character, but

1492
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: a really big part of this closing stretch. You got

1493
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: him in primetime in this game. You got him against

1494
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers in a couple of weeks. Uh. That was

1495
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: the game that was moved to Thursday night Football? Am

1496
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 1: I right? Or was at the They also have a

1497
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: at Bengals and a Chiefs in there. So Broncos fans

1498
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: kind of been looking for credit. I see them, they're

1499
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: they're they're a noisy fan base on Blue Sky and

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01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and all I have to say is like,

1501
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: here you go. This is great. I think it's actually cool.

1502
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: They're a surprising character of this season and they're gonna

1503
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: be in the mix and a lot of these big

1504
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: games down the stretcher. We'll see. This is the first

1505
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: test of a game you should win in primetime, So

1506
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: go ahead and go ahead and win it. They should win.

1507
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: The five and a half is big.

1508
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: But fans Joseph and this defense too, has been really

1509
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 2: really consistent this season.

1510
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: Shout out to our friend Andrews Sicilli. I know twice

1511
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: he's getting mentioned in this show. He's got this great

1512
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: Browns podcast slash Right YouTube show, and he got a

1513
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: great clip from Jameis Winston saying saying Nick Chubb said,

1514
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: I love you, man, And it's like, if you can

1515
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: get Nick Chubb to say that, you know, there's a

1516
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: lot a lot of love in this building for this man,

1517
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. Let's go. Jameis Winston certainly making himself a

1518
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: main character down the stretch.

1519
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, the the quintessential vibes quarterback where the vibes were

1520
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 3: decidedly not good in Cleveland A few weeks boring up

1521
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 3: a dub. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are six point favorite

1522
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 3: script at the Carolina Panthers, who just took the Chiefs

1523
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 3: all the way to the wire. Forty six and a

1524
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 3: half points is the over under Chris Meyers, Mark schli

1525
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 3: and Jen Hale on the call. We saw Bryce very

1526
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 3: very good in pressure Jatavian Sanders back at practice, looked

1527
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 3: healthy after a scary moment kind of landed on his

1528
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 3: head towards the end of the first half. But they

1529
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 3: were going up against a buzz saw Bucks team that

1530
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 3: you think is making a push to the playoffs.

1531
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: I do, and this is a great game to see

1532
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: Bryce whether he can continue that run. I like the

1533
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: Bucks to win, and they might even cover because their

1534
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: offense is just that good against one of the worst

1535
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: defenses in the league. But the story here is Bryce.

1536
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: Last week we talked about can you be consistent stacking

1537
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: these weeks after weeks, Well, that wasn't consistent. This was

1538
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: a whole nother level up. This was a different Bryce

1539
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 1: Young than we've ever seen at the NFL level. That

1540
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: throw that he had to Sanders down the sideline, that's

1541
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 1: just crazy. Third and eight. He had to to more

1542
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: as he was getting trashed. I mean, he was outstanding.

1543
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: Last week. Nick Wesseling texted me he went back and

1544
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 1: watched Nick Westling out here grinding the tape, and it

1545
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: was pretty cool that he did that because I had

1546
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: already thought Bryce would be the type of quarterback Chris

1547
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: Westling would love. I knew his type. He loved guys

1548
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: who could throw with anticipation and be accurate. And Bryce's

1549
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: accuracy and his anticipation and his timing in that game,

1550
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: and as it's gotten better each and every week has

1551
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: been fantastic. So the Westlings are on board, and I'm

1552
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: looking forward to watching if Bryce can keep this thing going.

1553
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 1: Because that was that was like hey, hey, now, like

1554
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: all right, like we're right on track. If we see

1555
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: the rest of the season he's playing like that, That's

1556
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: what you want to see out of your second year quarterback.

1557
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 1: That was special.

1558
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: I love this game plus six again for Tampa too

1559
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: much for me. Bryce's talking to Vance Joseph after they

1560
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 2: played the I think was Bryce's first game back. He

1561
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: was like that kid made every throw he's supposed to make,

1562
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: in every right decision he's supposed to make. And we've

1563
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: seen him build on that right, so therefore everyone else

1564
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 2: now has faith they're playing better football defensively, that's the

1565
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 2: issue on that side of the ball. Can Baker and

1566
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: those guys get off the explosive plays and and you

1567
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: know that's that's parting the passing game that they're able

1568
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 2: to do.

1569
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: By the way, there do they even need to though?

1570
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: They're actually one of the teams where teams this is

1571
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: how the Giants played them. A lot of teams play

1572
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: these days are just like, can you work down the

1573
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: field when twelve plays thirteam plays without making a mistake,

1574
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: and the Bucks are always like, yeah we can, Yeah,

1575
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: all pett We'll do it every time. They're awesome and

1576
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 1: a lot of that.

1577
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 3: Well, the Panthers defense has improved because this is one

1578
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 3: of statistically one of the worst rushing defenses we've ever seen.

1579
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 3: Now they're the second worst in the league this year

1580
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 3: forty six point seven percent success rate on runs twenty

1581
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 3: six explosive runs. The defense, especially in the secondary, it

1582
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 3: was a laughable performance tackling against the Chiefs, even against

1583
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes late where now the issue is Bucky Irving,

1584
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 3: who sometimes is untackleable that dude and I'm imagining this

1585
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 3: Panthers secondary where jac Horn has been solid in some

1586
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 3: sorts of pass covers. In the run game, it has

1587
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 3: really been hopeless in the secondary for Carolina, where I'm comfortable.

1588
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: With the points. I kind of am too, because they're

1589
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: a good team with the lead. I think they're built

1590
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: to win. Now they just they keep piling it on.

1591
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: There's no mercy Baker Mayfield in this offense. They're good

1592
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: at these long drive they can shorten games, and their

1593
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 1: running game has really improved a ton. They're good throwing

1594
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: to their running back. So I think Bryce could play well.

1595
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: But it could be thirty five, twenty four, twenty seven

1596
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: and it happens. Now. This is not a revenge game,

1597
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: but I did want to point this out. I don't

1598
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: Maybe you guys can help me ook your words Smiths

1599
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: of what type of game this is. Liam Cohen replaced

1600
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: Dave Canalis, who moved on for a better position. But

1601
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure when you're replacing someone who's kind of a

1602
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: hot shot coordinator, you want to do even better than

1603
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: that guy, and frankly, I think he has. He's done

1604
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: an even better job than Baker with Baker Mayfield than

1605
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: Liam than canalsis then, So I don't know what type

1606
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: of game that is, but it's something I'll tell you.

1607
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.

1608
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: They have the same agency, they have the same represent Okay.

1609
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: So that's like the big smile game.

1610
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: Okay. So if Liam Coen gets there, gets this one,

1611
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: he might be he's gonna be interviewed for some head coach. Okay,

1612
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: the big paycheck type of game. Okay. Yeah, and he's like,

1613
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 1: I'm even better than this guy who got a head.

1614
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: Coaching Jack, even though his defense the canalass defenses. So

1615
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: you know this is one where he Liam better go

1616
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 2: ahead and show out.

1617
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 3: Okay, the rising tide lifting all both there you go,

1618
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 3: There you go game. Bringing us to our final doc

1619
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: of the evening on Sunday Night Football, Steve the San

1620
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine ers, dealing with a ton of injuries,

1621
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 3: one more marquee than others, going up against the red

1622
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: hot Buffalo Bills, who had a chance to work rests.

1623
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 3: They are seven point favorites at home the over under

1624
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 3: forty four and a half and Sunday Night Football. So Mike,

1625
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: Chris and Melissa there on the call. Is there any

1626
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 3: whole in Santa Clair.

1627
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so.

1628
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 2: I mean, this is look, even the defense we're so

1629
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: used to, they mean they'd get hit too much. And

1630
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: we know Buffalo with Josh running the way they're running,

1631
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: they they're just they don't tackle well, gosh, they get

1632
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,560
Speaker 2: they missed so many tackles once it gets beyond the

1633
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: first level. That's something we just don't see out of

1634
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. It's gonna be cold, you know.

1635
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: We still brock Purty is still a question mark. I

1636
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 2: believe if he's gonna be able to play. I just

1637
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: think this is a Bills in a landslide game.

1638
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: This is now.

1639
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen tried to compete for Lamar in Saquan for

1640
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: the three quarters of the season lead for the MVP.

1641
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: The injuries are so massive to even talk about this game.

1642
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: If you have Purdy and Trent Williams out there, I'm

1643
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: not even talking about Bosa, although he would be a

1644
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: big deal to you got a chance, you got a

1645
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: chance to compete in any game offensively, and they can

1646
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: be tougher. Now in the end, I think the Bills

1647
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: would outlast them because the Bills can't be pushed around

1648
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: as well as as they used to be. They're playing

1649
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: pretty well up front, certainly tough on offense, and they're

1650
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna be healthier too. They're coming off a

1651
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: buy and Cooper finally had a week to rest and

1652
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: maybe they get Kean Coleman back. And it's tricky. We're

1653
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 1: taping this Wednesday to get it out for you before

1654
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving holiday and everything, and we don't know if

1655
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: Purdy is gonna play or not. If they don't have Purdy. Yeah,

1656
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: it's a I don't you couldn't make this number high enough.

1657
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure it would go from six and a half

1658
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: to they're probably trying to balance out of like maybe

1659
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: he's playing. He did throw some on Monday, which is

1660
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: a good sign, but he did that a little last

1661
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: week too, So we just don't know.

1662
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: Here's something baffling to me. Have you guys been watching

1663
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel. He is not playing well. He had a

1664
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: couple drops, I mean things that were sure handed last week.

1665
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: It just doesn't seem like he's that guy in terms

1666
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 2: of early in the season.

1667
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: He's playing okay, but he is not.

1668
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 2: He's really got to relock back in because the mistakes

1669
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 2: he's making seem more in his head than the physical

1670
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 2: mistakes just dropping the balls. He just does it seem

1671
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 2: like right now, like the gangster type of dude that

1672
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 2: we've seen the past couple of years.

1673
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 3: And even when Debo did make the play last week,

1674
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 3: they gets called back for penalty. Christian McCaffrey's best run

1675
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 3: last week. He winds up getting the ball punched out

1676
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 3: right and the Packers recover and and over on the

1677
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. They they haven't gotten the

1678
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 3: stops we expect them to get, kind of carried at

1679
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 3: the start of the season by one of the best

1680
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: players in the NFL and Fred Warner where that damn

1681
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 3: has felt like it started to burst and it's caused

1682
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 3: me to use hansit and look back, it's like, well

1683
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 3: they're playing with al Dre Greenlaw in the Super.

1684
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 1: Bowl that they almost win that game.

1685
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: They have to finish the season without Talao Hufunga, who

1686
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 3: also hasn't played this season.

1687
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: After missing most of the last season since since Week.

1688
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 3: Five, where maybe things weren't so bad with Steve Wilkes,

1689
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: maybe maybe that was the best that this forty nine

1690
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 3: Ers defense.

1691
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: It's also a different team at one point last year

1692
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: that showed the four defensive line starters against the pack.

1693
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: We're not there last year. So they're guys they signed

1694
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: like Malik Collins and Leonard Floyd, who are solid players

1695
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: if you're adding them to the mix to be your

1696
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 1: fifth sixth lineman. But now they're your lead guys with

1697
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: He's legit, but he was more legit when he wasn't

1698
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: thirty three years years old. He's a role player and

1699
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: there needed him to be like their top edge rusher

1700
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: when boss out. And that's yeah, that's too much. It's tough,

1701
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: this Bills team. It's a wagon, little little dangerous. But

1702
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: I like your your squad Eric behind the glass year

1703
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: and uh, I like the matchup. The San Francisco offensive

1704
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: line not playing well really at all either out, especially

1705
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 1: when Williams isn't there and the Bills can get after it.

1706
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's gonna be a good sunny

1707
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: night game. It's just some years, it's not your year.

1708
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 2: Well, we got so much on the plate beforehand. These

1709
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Speaker 2: are just like the little crumbs left after that.

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Speaker 1: Things.

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Speaker 3: It would just it would take the Bills. It feels

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Speaker 3: like it would take the Bills making a ton of mistakes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just a ton of mistakes. And I don't I don't

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Speaker 3: see them do that the way they're playing right now

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Speaker 3: that they're the safety Bills.

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Speaker 1: This is safe.

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Speaker 2: Josh gosh, we're talking about this game of Bill's Niners

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Speaker 2: game like it's just.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, maybe they'll maybe they'll provost wrong. I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. You guys always prove me right each and

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Speaker 1: every week, and those seats making it the best previews

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Speaker 1: show in the business. That is it for our week

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Speaker 1: thirteen preview? What week are we in? Thirteen? We're here.

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Speaker 1: I love it, one of us. I love it. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for watching NFL daily. We'll be back to recap

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Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving games, and like I said, the Picks show

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Speaker 1: is coming up later in the week. But I hope

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Speaker 1: you guys have a great Thanksgiving. I will in the meantime. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when we're talking about this forty nine Ers team being

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Speaker 1: done by week thirteen, you know football is back.