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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to The K Factor Everything

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Speaker 1: k Pop, hosted by Bomhan. I'm your host, Bomhan, and

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Speaker 1: today we have a very very special guest. Before that,

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Speaker 1: just a little bit reminder. You can get this podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Today, like I said, we were.

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Speaker 1: Joined by Moon, a global rising artist living in Korea

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Speaker 1: and visiting here in New York for fashion week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for fashion week eleven days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want the you walked to Alexander Wang show.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was so nice.

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Speaker 4: It was my freak's experience in a fashion week, So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was a special day.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to New York.

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Speaker 3: I love it. That's so nice. Like there's so everything

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Speaker 3: is new to me.

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Speaker 4: So I'm having a really great time and especially the

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Speaker 4: people everywhere so nice.

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Speaker 3: Until now. I mean, I hope we will stay like that.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I met incredible people and yeah, I'm having

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Speaker 4: a really good time.

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Speaker 1: And you came here from Korea, right, okay. And I

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Speaker 1: was like reading up on like some stuff and like

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Speaker 1: we actually chatted a little bit on Tuesday a couple

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Speaker 1: of days before this, and I was like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: we have so much stuff in common. So I want

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Speaker 1: to just kind of like introduce your story to like

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Speaker 1: the audience if possible.

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Speaker 2: So you're living in Korea right now, and how long

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Speaker 2: have you been there for?

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Speaker 4: So now, it's been basically six years, but officially two

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Speaker 4: years because before so, I went in Korea for the

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Speaker 4: first time in twenty nineteen and I was going back

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Speaker 4: and forth.

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Speaker 3: You know, like you don't have visa. It's kind of hard.

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Speaker 4: So you can stay like three months because I was

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Speaker 4: born and raised in Friends so it was really cool

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Speaker 4: and I loved it, but I had to find a

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Speaker 4: way to get a visa and just stay there because

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Speaker 4: with that visa in Korea, you can't do anything as

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Speaker 4: you can't get you can't like pay you rent, you

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Speaker 4: can't have a number, you can't you can't deliver food at.

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Speaker 2: Games.

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Speaker 1: I try to try to go to a PC bomb

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Speaker 1: and you're like, you're a citizen, get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Ye I just want to play some legal legends.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you basically lose all the sparks that Korea has.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, no, me too, I want that

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Speaker 3: full experience.

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Speaker 2: So it's a Korea from France, Yeah, from France. And France.

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Speaker 4: So I was born and raised in France, Paris, Paris, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and the suburb.

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Speaker 2: And you love New York, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Actually like the literally the closest place I found in

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Speaker 1: New York because I grew up here. All the closest

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Speaker 1: places I found was Paris and Korea really and mix

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Speaker 1: of it or just like countries, like people have like there,

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Speaker 1: like things that are similar, you know, so like for

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Speaker 1: you to like come here and yeah, I love it,

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Speaker 1: like it makes me like feel good, I.

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Speaker 4: Really like literally, And I think the same thing with

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Speaker 4: you about Korea and France is like the architecture it

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Speaker 4: reminds me here when I'm in Korea, high buildings, it's

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Speaker 4: really inspired by America. And in terms of the vibe,

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Speaker 4: like trass, even the narrow street is really so rad French.

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Speaker 3: You know this one you know around?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I always whenever I talk about Paris, I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: Paris is just like a super big soho have you

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Speaker 1: been to Flushing yet? Okay, it's like a Chinatown Korea.

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Speaker 1: When I went to Korea, I was like, it was

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Speaker 1: just like a big flushing crazy I need all that.

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Speaker 1: And you moved to Korea to like pursue music.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So we went to Korea during the same time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what age I was en? I was eighteen eighteen,

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Speaker 2: I was seventeen, you're seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we two thousand and one, so I was

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Speaker 4: seventeen two.

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Speaker 1: I was seventeen two, and then I moved and then

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Speaker 1: my birthday passed, and then I went from seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Years old to nineteen years old.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm finally because of the.

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Speaker 2: Korean legal aged I was like, yo, I never experienced

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Speaker 3: Oh I went from seventeen to like now, yeah, directly.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 4: So then I mean, I don't know if I can

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Speaker 4: ask that, but you've been to clubs or you tried

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Speaker 4: could Yeah, okay, caper idol.

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Speaker 2: Life, I've I've been.

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Speaker 1: I've been going to like PR training recently and then

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Speaker 1: like they like went through all my stuff and they're like, wow,

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Speaker 1: You're like not good at this. No way, I just

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Speaker 1: be saying like whatever and just like being myself.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, no clubs. I have not gone to

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Speaker 3: Never even until now. No.

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Speaker 2: But I did live in home day. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: wasn't home day.

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Speaker 3: So that's the thing. Literally when you're living home day

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy because we used to train from like

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Speaker 1: nine pm all the way until like six am, and

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Speaker 2: Until like six am.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'll be coming home from like training, I'm like

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Speaker 1: super tired. I'm like limping home. And then like next

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Speaker 1: to me, it's like the people who are like at

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Speaker 1: the home day clubs and they're also limping home because

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Speaker 1: they're drunk. So it's just the two of us, like

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Speaker 1: we're both like drunk. You know.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: But you guys had the same goal but not the

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Speaker 4: same rules or they were like breaking.

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Speaker 2: Rules the oh not like my not like my band

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Speaker 2: members in the street, people in the street. Like we

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Speaker 2: just looked the same because we're both like tired.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: And after that you told me that, yeah, we were

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Speaker 4: living in the same neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: The same neighborhood afterwards, because I moved from home day to.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Yo is like a zombieing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to admit, but it's kind of true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like every because then people from like China, Japan

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Speaker 1: and like even Korea. Yeah, they they all go to

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Speaker 1: this like like area for plastic surgery. Poenis Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there's like like the biggest plastic surgery capital of

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Speaker 2: And everyone has like bandages around their face.

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Speaker 1: You go to the coffee shop, You're like, yeah, coffee shop,

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Speaker 1: the elevator of my apartment, we're just like all bandaged up.

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Speaker 4: I was like, that's crazy because at the same time,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm like, Okay, some people would do surgery

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Speaker 4: because they feel like insecure.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, you go outside with.

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Speaker 2: The feel good what are you secure about?

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Speaker 3: Like there's no there's no reason.

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Speaker 1: Now casual like you just like go in and like

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Speaker 1: you can buy like a shirt like like like thirty dollars, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or you can go and you buy new lips for

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Speaker 1: thirty dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's like to say that, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I was like when I was like living there,

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Speaker 1: like plastic surgery is like super like normalized.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, like your I don't know if I can ask that,

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Speaker 4: but it was okay, your agency or label back at

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Speaker 1: They did I tell you, oh you should do oh

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Speaker 1: yeah all the time?

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: They I used to get like they used to like

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Speaker 3: And how did you feel, Like did he change a

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Speaker 1: Well, it's all like temporary, you know, but then like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, it felt so weird the first time

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Speaker 1: because I got I got a jaw filler, and then

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Speaker 1: I was like I couldn't bite food like you know,

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Speaker 3: Have done anything?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: No, no, I mean me, I didn't have like a

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Speaker 3: No one's telling me nothing.

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Speaker 1: And the mindset is a little bit different too, like

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Speaker 1: I mean, like Frances very like natural beauty.

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Speaker 2: You know, yes and no.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's more like these two

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Speaker 4: Because I was like, oh, because it's hip hop, we

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Speaker 3: But I think a lot of people who do hip

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Speaker 3: hop they also do some like job on them, Like you.

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Speaker 1: Know, you could work at like a coffee shop and

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Speaker 2: So that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean that's a good thing in Korea

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Speaker 2: Right, So why did you move to Korea?

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Speaker 3: So I just Korea because.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, I have a really big family and

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Speaker 4: I'm the middle child.

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Speaker 3: Everyone loves music, and.

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Speaker 4: They were all like, okay, get your thing because they

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Speaker 4: had already their favorite genres. And the only genre that

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Speaker 4: I didn't pay attention to when I was eleven years

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Speaker 4: So I started to get into it because basically I

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Speaker 4: and every time I had like a big crush on

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Speaker 2: Wow, I was always crushing who was it.

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Speaker 5: Big Bank Top, oh, Big Beanjee Dragon, Okay twenty one here,

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Speaker 5: always rappers and always from the same label also, and

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Speaker 5: I was like, okay, I want to go to y G.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I ended up going to Korea and I

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Speaker 4: couldn't do the audition because you know what, guys, they

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Speaker 4: said I was already too old seventeen and I was

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Speaker 4: too old for ku imagine that's crazy. The only like

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Speaker 4: label who let me do the audition was JHYEP, but

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Speaker 4: they were not feitling to my idea of like hip

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Speaker 4: hop because most of the time it was YG doing

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Speaker 4: the really hip hop groups.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: My vibe was really what I wanted.

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Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, At a point,

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Speaker 4: I was like, maybe K pop doesn't fit me, Let

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Speaker 4: meter just do hip hop. And then when I started

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Speaker 4: to be in this vibe and mindset, everything about music

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Speaker 4: started to come to me. Labels, producer, friends, rappers, everything

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Speaker 4: started to you know.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, because you're like you're good at what you doing.

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Speaker 2: You show me a bit of your music.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like the future projects that you have coming

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Speaker 1: up later, we're gonna like react live.

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Speaker 3: It's like okay, love it.

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Speaker 2: But like you're genuinely like good at what you do.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, of course, like you just go like okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't need this agency. I'm hip hop, Like

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Speaker 4: So we're like kind of like, you know, helping each other.

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Speaker 4: Always, always, He always like giving me his support and

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Speaker 2: And you worked hard for it too, like and when.

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Speaker 2: They're like a hundred songs, all your videos, like your

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Speaker 1: This is because you went to Korea and you're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: And it's not easy. It's not overnight. You how to

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Like you have the exact word I think.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, we learned Korean too during that time.

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Speaker 3: But I became so peaceful that I was like, you

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Speaker 4: But no, I would get mad again. I will answer

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I'm like wow, like someone needs to break

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 1: Like every single time you tell me something, I'm like, Wow,

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00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: that's me for real.

449
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: We twins.

450
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 4: I swear with twins, literally like wow, there's so many similarities.

451
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 4: And to be honest, in twenty three years, I never

452
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 4: met someone like you.

453
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

454
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 4: Really and that's crazy because you're a part of like

455
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 4: the people I met here and I literally don't want

456
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 4: to lose you guys.

457
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: I hope like we'll be still around for a long time.

458
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 3: Like I want to invite him to my wedding, you know,

459
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 3: I want to dance together to.

460
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 4: You guys make me feel just so like comfortable, you know,

461
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 4: like I have no hard feelings.

462
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 3: I'm still peaceful while being here, and that's something I.

463
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 4: Didn't feel since a long long time, you know, like

464
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 4: after so many things happened in my life.

465
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I don't want no

466
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: new friends. I don't want.

467
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: To I mean this helped me to like have my

468
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 4: peace right now.

469
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: But it was a really dark time.

470
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 4: I was just like I just ended one of the

471
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 4: Korean hip hop shows. I was feeling like in depression

472
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 4: and like all friends just betray and whatever I was feeling.

473
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 4: I had a lot of hard feelings, but it was

474
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 4: not like before when those hard feelings like make me

475
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 4: do good things. It was just making me afraid of

476
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 4: doing anything, and it was horrible. And at that time,

477
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I don't want to know new people.

478
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 4: And I finally find my peace. Maybe I would say,

479
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 4: like three months ago I found it like again, and

480
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 4: now I'm just like wow. So it was that feeling

481
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 4: that I had before just being with people, and I

482
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 4: feel I feel I don't feel like I forced myself

483
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 4: to tell there's just like natural alchemy.

484
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: Alchemy, is that right, Chemistry?

485
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, chemistry, chemistry. I'm just so happy, you know, And

486
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 4: it was there was a long time I didn't say

487
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 4: that like and I meant it.

488
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: I'm initially just happy.

489
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 4: I'm just like I don't need to be the most

490
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 4: famous to reaches or whatever. I'm just happy to be comfortable,

491
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 4: not feel like I'm not. I was not meant to

492
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: be here, you know. I'm just so happy.

493
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: So how long did that like period last where you're like, oh,

494
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: like I don't really want to do anything or likes.

495
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 4: Oh, so from October last year, no July last year

496
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: to March this year. So what happened between July and March?

497
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 4: I was alone in my house struggling. When I say

498
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: struggling is not just struggling mentally. Was struggling mentally, and

499
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 4: because I was not making any move, I was then

500
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: struggling financially because I don't work, so how can I

501
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: get money?

502
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: Then crazy things happened. TikTok we don't pay you anymore.

503
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

504
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 4: There was a lot of things. But I was making

505
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 4: most of my money with TikTok okay. And then I

506
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 4: had like many sponsorship that I was doing at the

507
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 4: same time, and them too. They were like, okay, we

508
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 4: have to cut the budgets to that. But I was like, damn,

509
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: I have to pay my rent. I have to do this.

510
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 4: But I was feeling so down that I couldn't even

511
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 4: do more so I was in a show. I was,

512
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 4: you know, just not understanding the situation. I was like, wow,

513
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 4: I'm in a show. I'm in this situation. It doesn't match,

514
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 4: Like that's so weird. And I was disappointed by myself

515
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 4: because I got eliminated and all those things.

516
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 3: It was so dark, such a dark time for me.

517
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 4: And then I had this crush on this guy and

518
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: then he was not giving me what I wanted, you know,

519
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: so even that makes me disappointed. And then I was like,

520
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 4: you know what, I don't think what I'm missing is

521
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 4: money or.

522
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: Therapy or not.

523
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: I was literally missing love and the like the truth

524
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 4: in people. I felt like I was just hanging out

525
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 4: with bad people, like bad influences, bad vibes. So I

526
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I don't know why, but I thought

527
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: like that. It was the moment of Christmas when I

528
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: usually go back to friends and me and my family.

529
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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I think I just need true love,

530
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: people who love me.

531
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Speaker 4: Not for like my followers, how I look, my money whatever,

532
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 4: It just people who appreciate me and I can be

533
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: natural with them. And I flew to friends closer and

534
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 4: even more with my family, received so much love, like

535
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 4: you know, and I was like, yeah, now my batter

536
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 4: we are full. I can go back to Korea. I

537
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: can go back and kill everything. But I needed this.

538
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: I needed this time to realize and that's why I

539
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: did this music video that I should inference any Korea

540
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 4: because I was like, yeah, what makes me literally happy

541
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: is people who love me for who I am and

542
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 4: know what I represent or my net worth, you know.

543
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's why I'm so happy in New York

544
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: because I'm literally meeting people, getting their help, getting their

545
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 4: attention and giving you know, having like really nice conversations,

546
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 4: debating about things, just being chilled in a coffee shops,

547
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 4: you know, not without the need of like doing more

548
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 4: than that, just just.

549
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Speaker 3: Being happy together.

550
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 4: And I haven't felt that since a long time, and

551
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: I just feelt that usually just within my family. But yeah,

552
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 4: I was missing this feeling. And I'm so grateful because

553
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: you guys like give it to me back, and now

554
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: I have even more than just a full battery right now,

555
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 4: Like to go back to Korea, I think I'm like,

556
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if I or seek sportable battery now,

557
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 4: So like if someone want to like harm me in Korea, guys,

558
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 4: you're not ready because I'm not ready to let anything down,

559
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 4: or how can I say give up on anything?

560
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 3: I'm so ready.

561
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: That's so amazing because it's like going through all those

562
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: things and then reapproaching Korea from a place of love

563
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: and not a place of hate, and then letting like

564
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: taking care of yourself and just letting that pour over

565
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: into your community, into your family, and now into your art.

566
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: And when you're saying like, now I really truly lived

567
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: in my art, it's because you're taking care of yourself

568
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: and there's no distractions. Oh hey, I need to do this,

569
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: I need to do this. I'm doing this because I

570
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: want to. And now you're really chasing that. People around

571
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: you can see that. But I can see how passionate

572
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: you are about your music. I see how passionate you

573
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: are about your videos and like anything that you create,

574
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: and it's like there's so much goodness ahead of you,

575
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: and thank you for sharing. Really I'm gonna cry me too,

576
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: but I can't. I literally have to shoot something out

577
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: of that. You know, guys, I need to how do

578
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: you say?

579
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: How do the same? In English?

580
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: Like for the Luke serve look, so you need a

581
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 2: serve face.

582
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: I need to serve face.

583
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: I that that really touched me because I actually went

584
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: through and remember when you looked up my TikTok on

585
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: the coffee shop and it was like, oh bomhind crash out.

586
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, our.

587
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: Time is a little bit months a bit of months

588
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: I was apart. But it was in November and I

589
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: had this mental health collapse because I was also doing

590
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: good on my tours. I was doing all this stuff.

591
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: I sold like my my most tickets ever Violin tour.

592
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: It was like it was like I think it's like

593
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: four thousand people in Atlanta.

594
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, like everything is so good.

595
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: But my mental health was going crazy because I was

596
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: still like working from anger. I was still working from

597
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: like all this stuff, and I was like, Okay, I'm

598
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: so empty that I need.

599
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: This work to fill me up, you know.

600
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: And I was doing that for like a year, and

601
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: I kept getting disappointed and more angry and disappointed and

602
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: more angry, whether it's like stuff from like my old team,

603
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: like stuff from like fans, or like stuff from like

604
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: just like stalkers and all these things.

605
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: You know.

606
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: So I had this one big collapse where everything went down,

607
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: and then I was I went on like Instagram Live.

608
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: I was like yelling at people like all these things.

609
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: I was like like just like cursing and everything. And

610
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: then from there the hate came flooding in, and then

611
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: I also shut down, and I I was in like

612
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: a similar place, like depressed, not knowing what to do.

613
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: I was like, usually when I'm sad, it can work,

614
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: but now it's empty, and now I have nothing supporting me.

615
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: I didn't want to make new friends.

616
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: I didn't want all this and all the friends that

617
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: I thought I had who like saw me for like

618
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: my followers saw me for like my so like and

619
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: like when all that went away, it was all gone,

620
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: all my friends left. They were like, oh, actually, like

621
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: Bomhand's a terrible person. I'm like we were friends, yeah,

622
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, like we shared memories.

623
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: Like now I don't have the right.

624
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: And then in faith, uh, there's something called like a

625
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: baptism of fire, whereas like to become a new you,

626
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: you have to go through the fire and like burn

627
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: through all these things that aren't actually important. And it

628
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: was from November to also March. I'm so serious, my god,

629
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: And that was crazy. I was like, yo, like I

630
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: have nothing. It seemed like I just old four thousand tickets,

631
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: but I have nothing, And I was like, okay, so

632
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: what's important to me was love, and like whether it's

633
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: love for my family or real friends or like my community,

634
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: my faith and all these things, all these were as zero,

635
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: and therefore my art was showing that too.

636
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: My art was also zero.

637
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: I was like saying stuff to like yeah, go viral.

638
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: I was saying stuff like you know, like other things

639
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't true to me. So I moved back to

640
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: New York, like I prayed and moved back.

641
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: To New York because at a time, where were you?

642
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: I was in Los Angeles.

643
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so somewhere basically that there's no it's not your

644
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 4: comfort zone.

645
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: And like all every everything I got in LA was

646
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: because of my influence, so it was like once that

647
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: was gone, everything's gone. So I was like, okay, I

648
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: want to move back home. And then I was surrounded

649
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: by my family. I was like, wait, they don't care, yeah,

650
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: and they know, they know my favorite food, they know

651
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 1: my favorite color, you know. And then like I have

652
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: friends from like eight years ago, like yo, like good this,

653
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I remember when you moved away from Korea to like

654
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: pursue this dream. And I'm like I did have that

655
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: dream and I went to like my old church and

656
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, like then we build the community and

657
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm like helping the kids and I'm like this is

658
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: what I yes, I'm you know, and then so beautiful

659
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: the art came back and I was like, wait, I

660
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: have my spark, Wait I feel full. And then that

661
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: started pouring out into other things, you know, and it's

662
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: like this person online to get like say what they

663
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: want about me, don't know me, like these people know.

664
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: Me, you know, and these people are important. These people

665
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: need my attention, not yeah exactly.

666
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: So thank you for sharing that.

667
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: The one thing.

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Speaker 2: We have another thing coming, so many things. Oh my

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Speaker 2: god is so great right now. You know. It's like

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Speaker 2: like we get to work, we get to do all

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Speaker 2: these things.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to come back to New York so we.

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Speaker 2: Can have So this has been an amazing conversation.

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Speaker 1: But says the K Factor, you have to ask you

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Speaker 1: who is your favorite K pop group?

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Speaker 3: You already know.

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00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: My favorite rappers in it, so it's literally, what big bang?

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Speaker 2: Who's your bias?

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Speaker 3: I'm just like she's like sixty, I just.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm in brassed, but I am brassed myself.

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Speaker 2: Okay, myself. You're walking up a mountain.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you look down, there's g dragon hanging from the cliff,

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Speaker 1: and now you have Top on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the cliff.

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Speaker 2: You have one rope. Who would you say Top.

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Speaker 3: Really fast? I mean I know that, I say you,

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Speaker 3: let's get married?

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Speaker 2: Oh smart? Smart?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I just love his art. Yeah, I'd be

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Speaker 4: joking around you.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think inspires your music the most.

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Speaker 3: Instead of the music?

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Speaker 4: So that's so weird because basically when I do.

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Speaker 3: My art, I do music.

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Speaker 4: I do hip hop basically, so I don't listen to

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Speaker 4: any hip hop artists when I'm in my creative time.

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Speaker 4: So like this, I don't uh an international like international

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Speaker 4: and yes, so like this way, I don't copy or

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Speaker 4: you know, like do anything that could be similar. So

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Speaker 4: in terms of like technique rap, nobody. But in terms

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Speaker 4: of hustle, I have a lot of role models like

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Speaker 4: uh yea. I love the fact that she was coming

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Speaker 4: from Australia. I love Rihanna from Barbaros. All those artists

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Speaker 4: who basically made it where they basically didn't come from,

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Speaker 4: didn't come from. So this was so impressive to me

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Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, I want to do that.

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Speaker 3: I want to like make it that way.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of artists, I most of the time,

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Speaker 4: two or three times a week I go and how

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Speaker 4: can I say, educate myself about like all these celebrities

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Speaker 4: or all these people who became success successful not only

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Speaker 4: in the music, mostly in the music though. And I

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Speaker 4: learned about this story because I don't think you I mean,

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Speaker 4: it might happen, and it surely happened, but I don't

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Speaker 4: think everyone was just meant.

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Speaker 3: To be famous.

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Speaker 4: No, they literally had to go through a lot of

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Speaker 4: things to become who they are, and all these hustle

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Speaker 4: I just want to like sometimes conform myself that, hey, mood,

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Speaker 4: this is normal. You not everything is going to be perfect,

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Speaker 4: because look they also went like through this and this

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Speaker 4: and that and this and that. So sometimes you just

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Speaker 4: remind myself that, hey, girl, don't worry. This happened, but

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Speaker 4: they're worst. So like we say, if I can walk,

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Speaker 4: I will crawl, if I can crowl, I will do something.

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Speaker 4: But I should always find a way.

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Speaker 3: You know, keep going, yes, keep going.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And the wonderful thing about this is one day you're

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Speaker 1: going to be on that list for someone else, like

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Speaker 1: wherever you end up, it's going to be a pillar

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Speaker 1: for the next generation, like like Rihanna, like you said, Gazilia,

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Speaker 1: like all these people like when they were going, they're

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Speaker 1: just like no, they're thinking about their journey at the

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Speaker 1: moment and they happen to touch someone from France exactly.

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Speaker 3: You know that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: So there's going to be some kid in like Zimbabwe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not even just when people are like, oh, you

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Speaker 4: gave me the envy to go to Koream already, what like, Wow,

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Speaker 4: when will.

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Speaker 3: I open my tour? I have to say to our

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Speaker 3: organization I don't know about. I'm a cute like guys.

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Speaker 4: I will make you guys, discover career, buy myself, we

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Speaker 4: me so you can get the full experience. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: it just makes me feel so happy because I'm like, Wow,

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Speaker 4: I'm doing something useful to others and that was what

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Speaker 4: I was aiming for.

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Speaker 3: So that's the honor for me. If I could inspire

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Speaker 3: you for anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you, thank you for conversation. I

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Speaker 1: think it's been an amazing episode. Here's another reminder that

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Speaker 1: you can listen to this podcast on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: See you guys tweeks