WEBVTT - This will be the greatest challenge of your life

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the answer is, and whatever you figure out, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not easy. It's going to be a huge mountain for

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<v Speaker 1>you to climb. And my heart goes out to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry that you are You're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to tackle maybe the greatest challenge of your life. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? Guys? Welcome to the podcast is episode one

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<v Speaker 1>oh four. Got one of my favorite buddies, favorite guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me back, Bernie Calcot. Yep, we're here everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time you're on the podcast, people say more Bernie,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact they make the questions specific to Bernie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so many times. And that's what this podcast is. We

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<v Speaker 1>answer your questions. If you have anything, email Grangersmith podcast

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<v Speaker 1>at gmail dot com. We'll put it in the queue.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to it, and it could be about any subject.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the weight of your questions. I realized that

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast has become something where you want to bounce

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<v Speaker 1>an idea off of us, and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>through it with no notes, no preparation, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>speak to you as though we're just three friends hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out trying to give some advice in real time, walking

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<v Speaker 1>through it slowly in long form, which is why I

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<v Speaker 1>love podcast. Thank you for all the different platforms you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening on, whether it's Spotify or Apple Music or YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever your favorite podcast style platform is. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have made this one of the top podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>in all the music genre and love you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're so grateful for this platform. And Bernie, you've

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<v Speaker 1>been coming for probably over a year now as a guest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is awesome. I thought for sure I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bomb this thing the first time I came. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Granger's not gonna do the podcast anymore. They're gonna cancel

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<v Speaker 1>it after I was on. But or you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>going to cancel me. But you've been so gracious and

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<v Speaker 1>like Grangers, just give me a bunch of feedback from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, meet and greets and whatnot. And so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep coming as long as you keep in bite me man, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And can I say real quick, your brother Parker on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. He's late twenties, is that right? My goodness?

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<v Speaker 1>He is like his perspective, his responses, his wisdom. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say for being that age, because for

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<v Speaker 1>any age, but to be in the late twenties and

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<v Speaker 1>have the perspective that he has is really awesome to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to. The shout out to Parker listening, buddy, We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get We'll get Parker back on here soon too. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have anything, like I said, I'm gonna repeat

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<v Speaker 1>it that. The email is Grangersmith podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to blind. I want to jump into this.

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<v Speaker 1>The seventh first one is about being blind, which is

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting I think it's the first time you've dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with something like this, but the subject line is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. Yeah. The subject line says blind relationship slash

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie is my fave. Oh stop it. They love you, Bernie,

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<v Speaker 1>they love you. The question is short and it says this.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Alison. I'm twenty four years old. Back

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<v Speaker 1>in November twenty twenty, I became blind unexpectedly. My boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>of five years says that going blind doesn't change how

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<v Speaker 1>he feels about me, But how do I curb the

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<v Speaker 1>nagging feeling that I'm going to hold him back from

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<v Speaker 1>doing things that two sided people would enjoy? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>I love the podcast. Definitely never heard that one before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a new Yeah. So November twenty twenty now

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<v Speaker 1>so that means that I'm guessing three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>four years they had a relationship where she could see,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she became blind pretty recently. And it's an

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<v Speaker 1>understandable nagging feeling that she has. It's I want to

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<v Speaker 1>I want to validate her her feeling that if you

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<v Speaker 1>lose one of your five senses, you're going to feel

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<v Speaker 1>lesser of a of a partner in a relationship, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you're going to hold that other person back

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<v Speaker 1>from experiencing their life to the fullest. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you could probably could probably say the same thing about

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<v Speaker 1>if you lost your legs or you lost your hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think anytime you anytime you have something that drastically

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<v Speaker 1>changes the way you perceive the world, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>feel vulnerable. How do we start with Alison. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's a burden that she has to carry, but she's

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<v Speaker 1>also now her husband is now carrying with her. So

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<v Speaker 1>seek wise counsel. I think comes to comes to mind

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of seeking other relationships that are similar. We're

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<v Speaker 1>either maybe someone's in a wheelchair and the other person's not,

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<v Speaker 1>and those kind of relationships that are strong and well

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<v Speaker 1>grounded would be a good resource for Allison. Absolutely. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably a community of people that have already found

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<v Speaker 1>each other and could be a support system for her

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<v Speaker 1>and her husband that they just didn't know until they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of entered into this. Yeah. Yeah, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to learn a lot about this boyfriend. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a boyfriend. It's a boyfriend. Oh okay, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a husband. I said a husband

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<v Speaker 1>a couple times. Okay, that probably changes it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That definitely changes it. That changes my answer, I think

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. But it doesn't seem like there's any resistance

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<v Speaker 1>from him. Hey, props to the dude he's telling her.

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<v Speaker 1>It does not change the way he feels. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been well over a year, it's been almost

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<v Speaker 1>two years, supposed to this guy. Well, if he is

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this podcast, and bro, you love this girl

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<v Speaker 1>enough to stay with her even after she's became blind,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to marry her already, right, Yeah. Absolutely, But

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at the benefits for this dude. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to comb his hair anymore, that's right. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about what he wears as much anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's kind of nice. Yeah. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking about how you know, my clothes are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of laid out. It's like okay, yeah, I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that. Okay, God, no, go back in and

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<v Speaker 1>change like okay. Help that happens a lot. Help me

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<v Speaker 1>out someone that has an impairment like this. Help me

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<v Speaker 1>out with this, because I've heard. It's my understanding that

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<v Speaker 1>when you lose since like sight, that other senses are enhanced.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard that? Yeah, yeah, I've heard that that

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<v Speaker 1>you you're the human body starts to compensate, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you get better hearing, or maybe your smell gets better,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe your sense of touch obviously would get better

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<v Speaker 1>because you're going to start feeling more throughout your surroundings,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you are your body's going to compensate. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>speaking a little bit out of terms here because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't relate to this, but I can relate to you

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<v Speaker 1>being vulnerable in the situation, and I want to commend

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<v Speaker 1>you on emailing us and feeling this vulnerability, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would I would encourage you to kind of lean into

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<v Speaker 1>that vulnerability with your boyfriend so that he knows that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not just blindly confident about you're the same person,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not the same person anymore, and that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a bad thing, but you are different. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>we all go through seasons or times chapters in our

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<v Speaker 1>life where things change, Like I have impairment that have

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<v Speaker 1>happened to me. You do, everyone does. Where something happens

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<v Speaker 1>in your life and from that that moment on your

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<v Speaker 1>a different You're a different version of yourself, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened to you. I would I would, I would

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<v Speaker 1>lean into that vulnerability, and aside from your relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend, I would really lean into God's word because

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<v Speaker 1>in the Gospels, the four Gospels that we have of

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus's life on Earth, blindness comes up a lot. Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>talks about blindness a lot, and it's never in a

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<v Speaker 1>negative light. Ever, sometimes it's in a positive light, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to open your eyes to the Kingdom of

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<v Speaker 1>Heaven in a new way that you could never see

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<v Speaker 1>with your earthly eyes. My eyes are going to go

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<v Speaker 1>out one day, yours are two. I might die at

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<v Speaker 1>the same moment or not, but regardless, all of our

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<v Speaker 1>eyes are going to go out at some point. You

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<v Speaker 1>might Allison have been given a gift with this blindness

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<v Speaker 1>that is probably hard to recognize right now, but this

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<v Speaker 1>might be a gift that you're going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to lean into how you perceive the world in a

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<v Speaker 1>completely different way, and that could benefit somebody. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to recognize that you are an asset to

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<v Speaker 1>this boyfriend, or if you don't stay with this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're an asset to someone else in the future. You

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<v Speaker 1>are bringing a lot to the table as a person, Alison,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want you to recognize that, yeah, and also

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that I'm not sure. I feel like we've said before,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of these podcast questions can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like be answered with like this handful of different responses.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this one has a couple of a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of them in there, But one of them that

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't mentioned is community for her, specifically for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine the counseling and the support and the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, community that you would need if one day

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<v Speaker 1>you could see and then another day you couldn't. Just

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<v Speaker 1>apart from the day to day help me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get accustomed to this, just having someone to talk to,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a community of friends or an actual counselor

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<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like that is a very traumatic event.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think, you know, just practically, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seek out some counsel and community to like help you

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<v Speaker 1>process I used to see and now I don't. What

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean for my life? What does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>for my identity? What does that mean for my relationship?

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<v Speaker 1>And just process that with other people. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that you are in some way with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and that we're encouraging everybody to do, like find your tribe,

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<v Speaker 1>find your community, and wrestle through these things with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>support each other through them. So I think that's something

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<v Speaker 1>practical that she can do. Absolutely that's the best advice

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<v Speaker 1>I know to be able to give you, Alison. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to finish with this last thought for you. There

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<v Speaker 1>might be a feeling with this boyfriend at any moment,

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<v Speaker 1>if he starts to turn and not be the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that you need or deserve, there might be a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>in you that wants to hold on to him because

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<v Speaker 1>he's the last relationship that you'll have that you will

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<v Speaker 1>know what they look like. Like. So strange thought, but

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<v Speaker 1>possible that you could this guy could become a jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>And you justify that by saying, well, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>stay with him, because if I move on, I won't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the next guy even looks like, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big disadvantage. So I want to rebuke that and

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<v Speaker 1>just say, let's go with character and integrity and these

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<v Speaker 1>core values honesty that you could get from a boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>or relationship that has nothing to do with what they

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<v Speaker 1>look like, and lean into that comfort that no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what happens you, you're gonna be Okay, You're gonna this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be, this is gonna be really good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for emailing. This is a it's a serious question,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for opening up for for us on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast with this and sharing it. Oh this is interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>no particular order. The next one that just popped up says,

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<v Speaker 1>help angry husband. Let's do it first, first parentheses. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever been an angry husband? Man? I mean a

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<v Speaker 1>different direction, but I'm gonna I'm not going to claim

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm perfect in anyway. The first thing that says

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<v Speaker 1>is anonymous, Please, okay, you got my back one. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to mess this up. You've gotten better, man,

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<v Speaker 1>You've gotten a lot better call him anonymous, refer to

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<v Speaker 1>him as anonymous. Okay, it says, did they sign their

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<v Speaker 1>name at the bottom of there's no name at the bottom,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm pretty sure that she doesn't say her name anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've learned. Hey, Granger, I listened to all your

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts and almost always agree with your advice. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a compliment. You could say it this way, I

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<v Speaker 1>almost always agree with your advice, instead of I almost

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<v Speaker 1>always agree with your advice. I'll say it the former way.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the problem. My husband and I have been

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<v Speaker 1>married for seven years. He was my first boyfriend, my

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<v Speaker 1>first everything. I love him. I can't imagine my life

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<v Speaker 1>without him. But dot dot dot he has problems with

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<v Speaker 1>anger and bad language. I've often tried to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him about these issues, but he either brushes it off

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<v Speaker 1>or gets angry at me for bringing it up. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>he'll admit that he has a problem and vows to change,

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<v Speaker 1>but the next day it's forgotten he goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>his bad habits. He professes to be a Christian parentheses

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<v Speaker 1>when he's not angry, faithfully attends church and reads the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he'll get upset over this all his things

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<v Speaker 1>and cuss and yell at me. I'm just so tired

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<v Speaker 1>of this behavior, and I'm starting to regret marrying him

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<v Speaker 1>when I think of what I'll probably have to go

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<v Speaker 1>through over the next, say, forty to fifty years. God

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<v Speaker 1>has blessed us with ex excuse me, God has not

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<v Speaker 1>blessed us with a family. And I feel somewhat guilty

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<v Speaker 1>for saying this, but a part of me is glad

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<v Speaker 1>that we won't have kids that will be subjected to this.

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<v Speaker 1>He often apologizes to me, but I'm having a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time believing him when he says he's sorry. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I can't change him, and only Jesus in his heart

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<v Speaker 1>can do that. But do you have any advice on

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<v Speaker 1>how I could react or how to cope with this?

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of these issues where without her with us,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know the extent of this anger. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the extent of when she says he yells and

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<v Speaker 1>cusses at me like that's abuse, And so I want

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<v Speaker 1>to preface before we say anything that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the extent of what you mean by

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<v Speaker 1>yelling and cussing at you, like, is it just an

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<v Speaker 1>angry man with a good heart and he falls off

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<v Speaker 1>the handle and he needs some kind of anger management

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<v Speaker 1>or is this guy abusing you verbally in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that is damaging to your soul? Right, So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that I don't know, Guys, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can address like the lowest form of that

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<v Speaker 1>and then the greatest form of that. I'm guessing it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably somewhere in between. But maybe so she can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not here with us, but you can say like, Okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's kind of here, maybe this would be the advice.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's here, this would be the advice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a feeling that a lot of people listening

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<v Speaker 1>are dealing with something like this fallen, broken world, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of anger. There's a lot of anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>right now. There always has been, but we could speak

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<v Speaker 1>to it right now with the state of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>the everything that's happening in the world around us creates

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<v Speaker 1>anger and that gets misguided and sometimes redirects to the

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<v Speaker 1>spouse because that's the person that's there and takes the brunt,

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<v Speaker 1>that takes the heat. And it's a terrible, terrible thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm trying to explain why I understand how this

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<v Speaker 1>could happen and how a lot of people are probably

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<v Speaker 1>in this kind of situation. We should probably address. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit multi layered. We should probably address that

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<v Speaker 1>he professes to be a Christian parentheses when he's not angry.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really understand that. Yeah, as you were reading it,

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<v Speaker 1>I almost didn't want to get into addressing him because

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<v Speaker 1>I would just kind of fair enough. I would just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get I would go off on a tangent

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't know enough. We don't know enough, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would be making accusations and assumptions that based on

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<v Speaker 1>his behavior, would bring me to some conclusions that are

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<v Speaker 1>just really hard to make. But the it doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like the fruits of the spirit are evident in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, she said that he does come back

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<v Speaker 1>and say sorry, But maybe we can get to that

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<v Speaker 1>in addressing her. But so her question is how can

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<v Speaker 1>I react or cope with this? And I hope you know, Anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not Whatever the answer is, and whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>figure out, it's not easy. It's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>huge mountain for you to climb. And my heart goes

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<v Speaker 1>out to you. I'm so sorry that you are. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to tackle maybe the greatest challenge of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. Maybe if you're out there and you've been

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<v Speaker 1>in an abusive relationship of some way, maybe comment your

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<v Speaker 1>experience with this person. Maybe there's some like experienceial wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>out there amongst the nation that Anonymous. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>read all the comments, and maybe you can not just

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<v Speaker 1>from me and Griz, but you can get some inspiration

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<v Speaker 1>or some guidance from everybody else too, who's actually been

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<v Speaker 1>in the thick of it. Seven years married, first boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>so it means a lot of years before that first everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Love him, can't imagine life without him. That's great. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good setup for coping. That's a good setup for

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good reason for you to do what the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible says and honor him. That the Bible says to

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<v Speaker 1>honor your wives, husbands, honor your wives. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>can't speak to him, but I could speak to you, Anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>and just say honoring him back might not change his anger,

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<v Speaker 1>but will it will put your soul at rest in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other ways if you are if you're

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<v Speaker 1>engaging in his anger, anger can become almost like like

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<v Speaker 1>an addiction. When someone is under the influence of a

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<v Speaker 1>substance when they become under the influence of their anger,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like they're a different person. And so to

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<v Speaker 1>engage with that different person, the person that's under the influence,

0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.720
<v Speaker 1>you're never going to win. You're never going to come

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<v Speaker 1>out and say the right things unless you confidently not

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<v Speaker 1>not a not a way that you could get hurt

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<v Speaker 1>in any way. But if you could confidently honor him

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<v Speaker 1>instead of engaging with this, this this animal side of him, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's good. I think too, like communication, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're talking about the different silos that these things

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<v Speaker 1>can fall in, Like maybe when he's not when you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are just on a date night, or you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like this is a really good moment that we're having,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just ask him about work and about maybe his friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and like try to find out. I guarantee you this

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<v Speaker 1>anger is coming out of pressure and anxiety and stress.

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<v Speaker 1>So if maybe you can start to like understand what

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<v Speaker 1>is stressing him, what is making him impatient. Maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing something that's part of it, maybe like without knowing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can you know, recognize, or maybe it has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with that, Maybe it's something at work,

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<v Speaker 1>but you understanding and telling him, hey, babe, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you not worry about that promotion? Like I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We can we can keep the stuff we have, we

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<v Speaker 1>can actually move, We don't need money to be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the pressure that I know men can feel sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>about providing and reputation and all this. Maybe you just

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<v Speaker 1>help alleviate that. I know that my wife has done

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<v Speaker 1>such a good job of recognizing when things at work

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<v Speaker 1>or different areas of life are kind of like there's

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<v Speaker 1>pressure of just helping to re not to like contribute

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<v Speaker 1>to that, but to help relieve some of that, and say, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me take care of the kids. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you go on a bike ride, or why don't you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go do something, because yeah, I could definitely

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<v Speaker 1>sense you need some space and and man, just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even need the bike ride. I don't even need

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<v Speaker 1>to get away. Just her recognizing, yes, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm so overloaded, and her telling me, hey, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you take some of those things off your plate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be happy with you no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that helps his overall level of patience and everything

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<v Speaker 1>grow because he's not he's not stretched past his margin

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<v Speaker 1>in life. He has some margins, so it's like something

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<v Speaker 1>happens and he's not flipping, you know, flying off the

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<v Speaker 1>handle right away. Yeah. Right, I think you're so right, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that answer. And there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>the right way to say that, Bernie, And there's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a wrong way to say that. The right way would

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<v Speaker 1>to be like you said and just go I love

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<v Speaker 1>you and I want to be able to contribute to

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<v Speaker 1>some of this stuff that you're you're going with, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going through. How could I help? How could I be

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<v Speaker 1>a better wife to you? Instead of the wrong way

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<v Speaker 1>would be you're angry all the time. Yeah, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>matter with you? What is the matter? Something at work?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there? Something I'm doing? Is there? What's going is

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<v Speaker 1>that your your dad's bothering him? Just we should just

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<v Speaker 1>tell me because you're just anger all the time and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't handle his anger. And here's what you never say.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll be honest with you. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I could do this for thirty or forty fifty more

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<v Speaker 1>years with you. I just don't know if I could

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And this is not the man that I'm married. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good one. Doun't say that don't say that

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you're just like throwing gasoline on the fire. There's ways

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<v Speaker 1>that you could do this in ways that you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>And just as Bernie spoke about Leslie's wife, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>things that Amber does for me that and she could.

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<v Speaker 1>You've known this guy for over seven years. You could

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<v Speaker 1>read him. Humans are great at reading each other. So

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<v Speaker 1>Amber will read me. And I don't know if she's

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<v Speaker 1>actively doing this or not. Maybe she'll tell me after

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<v Speaker 1>she hears this podcast, but she'll she'll read that something's

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<v Speaker 1>going on on the road, or that we've been we've

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<v Speaker 1>been going through a tough run of maybe it's county fairs,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's bickering in the crew that we've been through

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>some production guys that have yelled at my crew, and

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting out those fires and I haven't gotten much

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<v Speaker 1>sleep because I got in an early flight. And when

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I come home, Amber will say something like this, she'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for working so hard for this family,

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<v Speaker 1>providing for us. And she'll say that in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the kids, and she'll she'll say out loud to the kids, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you so lucky that your dad works so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to provide for us and to bring to put food

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<v Speaker 1>on the table, and that just like it takes all

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<v Speaker 1>this this anxiety that I've had at work or with

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<v Speaker 1>friends or whatever's going on, it takes it away and

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me that, oh, yeah, this is what's worth it. This,

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 1>this family, this, this tight knit group is what's worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder, Anonymous, if you started being that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wife, not saying you're not now and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to That's why I preface with this verbal abuse thing

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, because I don't know the extent of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe if that's who you leaned into, that kind

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of wife there was always supportive and always honoring and

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<v Speaker 1>always honest and left the communication open where you became

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<v Speaker 1>the person that he could trust with the worst things

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<v Speaker 1>in his life, then I wonder if this starts to

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<v Speaker 1>get distinguished, I mean extinguished a little bit through this anger. Yeah, no,

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that's great. On the far side of that, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And you may have hit on this already, like you probably.

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>If there is verbal, physical, continuous abuse, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>get some help, like separate yourself from it. No one

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>needs to be subjected to that. There needs to be

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 1>intervention with that if I pray that that's not it.

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>But if it is, we got no help for you here,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're gonna need to get some serious help and intervention.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think everything Greg you're saying is right on on.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to play Devil's advocate for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>That Anonymous may be part of the problem. We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know, right, So let's just say, Anonymous, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably need to take an inventory of what you're posture

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<v Speaker 1>and what you're contributing to the relationship. Are you demanding

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<v Speaker 1>of your husband things that he can't fulfill. You're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you here all the time, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>want you to work and buy me this stuff. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you is he caught an attention that you're perpetuating that

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<v Speaker 1>you're creating. Are you part of the problem. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to ask yourself that question. We don't know, and we

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 1>don't you know. I hope I'm not offending you by

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>asking that, but you got to ask yourself that, like

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.360
<v Speaker 1>what am I contributing? Is this really? Because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times it's so easy to see what the other

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>person is to It's like, dude, he's doing this, he's angry,

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>he's this but meanwhile you're forgetting that you're being very controlling, manipulative,

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, hey, I guarantee you. You You start to,

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like Granger said, you start to dig into word and

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<v Speaker 1>look for some guidance there about how you need to

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>enter into that relationship with your husband, and maybe all

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden his attitude starts changing. Like wow, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't agree more. I think the last thing I

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>could contribute to this is that counseling is a necessity

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 1>to you, guys, regardless of this anger. It's just a

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>marriage is a living, breathing, operating machine, and any machine

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>that we know in life needs to oil change, needs

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>to make change. You need to open the hood. You

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 1>need to check make sure everything's working properly. And that's

0:27:56.560 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>going to require a professional mechanic. Yeah, that's gonna get

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna help you, guys. And that says nothing really

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with his anger. This is this is

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a seven year relationship thing. Anyway that you you should

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>seek wise counsel and marriage counseling, but don't at all costs,

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>don't approach him with that idea saying you're angry, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to go to counseling. Yeah, you can't say it

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<v Speaker 1>that way because he's gonna say absolutely not the last

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<v Speaker 1>thing that he's going to want to do. Yeah, you

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>guys are a team. You got to see it that way.

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'll recommend a book for you guys by Aaron

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and Jamie Ivy called Complimentary and it's a husband wife

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that wrote it together, same topics, but like he wrote

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>it by himself, she wrote it by herself and then

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>they put it together. So you can see it may

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>be something that something simple like hey, babe, let's read this.

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I know Leslie and I read through it and it

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of facilitated some conversations that we knew there were

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>some pressure points and it's like, oh, that's that's why

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>you see this this way. Oh that's why you see

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>this this way. So find anything like that that can

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>help be a common ground. That's like a reminder, Hey,

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>we're a team here, we're on the same team. We're

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>not against each other. Love to work, do it. So

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>there's two solid options, marriage counseling one on one, or

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 1>a book that you could read together. I'll give you

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>one more option and you could do one to the

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>three or all three. But a conference setting. There's always

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>a couple conferences that could be we would recommend at

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>your local church, but there's all kinds of conferences that

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you can go as a couple, and you're not the

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>only ones. They're not singling you out, you're a You're

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>in a group of other couples that are every guy,

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>he man, anonymous. Everyone has problems of some sort in

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>their marriage that need maintenance, and sometimes it's easier for

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the husband to sit in a crowd where there's a

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of other husbands and a lot of other wives

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that are dealing with a similar issue, and it could

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>be a weak in type conference that you go to

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>and you could just really cultivate your marriage in that way.

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>So there's three good options. And yeah, thank you, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for the question, and we really hope the best

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>for you. Yeah, good stuff. We're gonna take a break

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get back into these questions, and I have a

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>lot and there's some really great stuff in here. There's

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>some heavy stuff, there's some some stuff that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it over to you Burns, okay, and you're gonna you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna help me pick it. Unfortunately, out of this group,

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<v Speaker 1>there's several that just say question for the podcast. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna read several off to you. The first

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<v Speaker 1>one is podcast question, and we have leaving someone you love,

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<v Speaker 1>wedding speaks, question homosexuality, help with my relationship, need advice

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in life, family issues, a couple more questions for the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I've just got married and I need help. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go I just got married. I need help homosexuality. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go there. And the last one, if we

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<v Speaker 1>can get to it, will be the second podcast question. Okay,

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>and gotcha. So let me click on that just got

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<v Speaker 1>married and need help, which is interesting. That's an interesting

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>subject that they would need help just after marriage, it says,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Granger. I love the podcast. I try to listen

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>every time I can. My name is Andrew. Me and

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:52.240
<v Speaker 1>my wife have been married for three months. I'm currently

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<v Speaker 1>on staff full time at a church doing maintenance. I

0:35:55.040 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>also preach outside of my home pretty often. However, is

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a huge issue. I make the bare minimum of what

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I could make, and that is frustrating every two weeks

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>when payroll comes out. Should I step down from the

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.919
<v Speaker 1>role in the church and pursue a secular job. I'm

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>not afraid to work a public job. I do not

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>believe I would be outside of the Lord's perfect will

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 1>if I did. Christ is sovereign in all things, and

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>he does that he does, and right now I'm in

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>a season I have to trust Christ more than ever.

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm a Calvinist by the way I understand God's hand

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and is working in all of our lives. I just

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like I could do more for my little family.

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I have some different job opportunities that I could pursue,

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<v Speaker 1>but if I left, I would want to leave peacefully

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and respectful. I could really use some help in the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks and God bless It's too easy. He gave himself

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<v Speaker 1>the answer. Yes, you need to leave, he said. He said,

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have more that I can do

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<v Speaker 1>Toro five for my family, then go do it. I

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>totally agree. Burn. You know, like I understand it scary

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>and if you need me and Griz to be like, dude,

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you can do it. What's his name? He says his name?

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't but his name, I got Andrew, Andrew Andrew. Okay,

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you got our support, man, go for it. It's it's

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.800
<v Speaker 1>out there. Hopefully you have the support of your wife

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to do the same. But it sounds like you know

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 1>what you need to do. It's just taking that last

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>step to say, Okay, I'm going to do it, and

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I say go for it. Totally wholeheartedly agree with Bernie.

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I think Bernie's right. I think you kind of answered

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>your question through the wording of your question. This is

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>on your heart. You just kind of needed a push,

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and so both of our both of us are going

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>to say, man, you got opportunities, and you feel the

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Lord's work in your life, and you feel like you

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you have a because guy's ministry is not just standing

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>on a pulpit, right, Ministry is in the nuts and

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>bolts of life itself. And you seem like Andrew, you're

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.879
<v Speaker 1>a person that understands that you're willing to take that

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and take that that gospel in you and take it

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>into the secular world, into a job and to make

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>enough to support your little family. I think is admirable

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>and totally respectable, and I think you should go for it.

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 1>And can we just speak to a generation real quick, like, guys,

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:23.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pause for a second just so I don't

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>go off, But can we stop being so passive? Can

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>we be bold? Can we take chances? Can we fail

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 1>and it be okay? Can we not make the right

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>decision every time? But just feel like, man, I've talked

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>to my community, I've been in the word. I'm gonna

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>make this decision and I'm going for it instead of

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>just like fiddling around with it for ten years and

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 1>then you're still in the same place you were a

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>decade later. Make the decision. Just go for it. Yeah,

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 1>and Andrew, that's not a knock on you at all.

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not to him. This is to like, I feel

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like a generation that's coming up that and maybe we're

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>part of that that. I feel like we can just

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>overthink things to the point where we just do nothing.

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what the enemy wants us to do.

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Just do nothing, don't make a move. And specifically to Andrew,

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you say that you do get opportunities to preach outside

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>of your own church. That's not going away. That's right.

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>You still do that. You still do that. So and

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>if you take this leap and you say, man, I'm

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 1>going for this God, you are my provider. I'm taking

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>a step of faith. I guarantee you what the experience

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to have through that is going to

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 1>like refine your preaching and give you more faith to

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>draw on and experiences to draw on through His word.

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:47.879
<v Speaker 1>It's all you feel like you got a jump jump man?

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Do it? You know that, Bernie and I believe that

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>God directs your path and that you can know His

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>will for your life because he is dictating your desires

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and he's dictating your want to. Yeah, that's good. So

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 1>when you feel this desire, you've got to believe if

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>you're if you're faithful, and you're a fearful man of God,

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that you you are in the Word, and you've got

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to believe that he has put this desire upon you

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's time to act. Do it? Love it man? Okay,

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>where are you gonna go now? Almostsexuality? Okay, Granger, hope

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.479
<v Speaker 1>all as well. My parents did a really good job

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of raising my brother and I around church and showing

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 1>us what it means to love Jesus. However, a few

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>years ago, my younger brother came out as gay. We

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>made it clear to him that we will always love

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 1>him and love him just the same, but we will

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>not support his lifestyle. All we can do now is

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>pray for him as much as we can. However, we

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 1>can't help but letting the feeling in that we should

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>be doing something more, doing something different to help him.

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Would love your advice and or your thoughts. Thanks, Colin

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.399
<v Speaker 1>doesn't say we're Collin's from. Thank you for asking man.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>This is a bold question, and it's it takes it

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 1>takes some guts to send this to us, and yeah,

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>tough to navigate. Yeah, tough to navigate your situation. Tough

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>for us to navigate this, this topic or this question

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>in answering you first, because we don't get to sit

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>with you or your family and discuss this. And two,

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>this world loves to live in sound bites and so

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and take things out of context. So it's like trying

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to think like whole thoughts and and and guidance and

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:46.839
<v Speaker 1>direction in this kind of format is really difficult when

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 1>it comes to tough topics or controversial topics. I guess

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you could say, but we'll do our best. Yeah, the world,

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the world screams at this topic right now. It screams

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>at this topic. And the first thing we got to

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 1>go to. The first thing we have to say is

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 1>that callin. You're a sinner. I'm a sinner, Bernie's a sinner.

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>This is not this is not you being better than

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>your brother. I'm not better than your brother. I have

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I have sexual sin in my life. That is, that

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.280
<v Speaker 1>does not make me lesser or better than your brother

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>in any way, in fact, makes me an equal human

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>in a fallen world. So that has to be, that

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>has to just penetrate your family. And if there's anybody

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>in your family, I don't think this is you calling,

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and it might not be anybody in your family, but

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to say it. If there's anybody that

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>thinks that they are more righteous than your brother because

0:42:56.400 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>he's gay, shame on them. You're not gonna You're not

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna win any battles. You're not going to prove anything

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:10.399
<v Speaker 1>by you or anyone in your family. Uh, being more

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 1>righteous or more more moral, or by any means. You're

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.840
<v Speaker 1>just not man. You're not You're not better your dad

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>because because your dad is going to reject your your

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:27.399
<v Speaker 1>brother's homosexuality, your dad's not any better. The only thing

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>you could do is just fall back on the word

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:34.280
<v Speaker 1>of God. Live by the word of God. He speak

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the Gospel, Speak the name of Jesus, Speak the message.

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Speak the message of forgiveness and repentance. Speak the message

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of salvation, and how it's available to anyone with faith

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:49.919
<v Speaker 1>when repentance in their heart. It's available to your brother,

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>it's available to you and me and anyone. It's available

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to to thieves and murders and liars and all kinds

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 1>of sin there is. There is there is no pit

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>of sin that you could crawl too deep that Jesus

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>can't forgive you and save you from. That's the glory

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>of the Gospel. That's why it's that's why it's amazing,

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that's why we talk about it all the time, because

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a message of a messiah that came

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to this earth. God himself became flesh and came to

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 1>this earth and took on the burden of all sinners

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and everything that they do and all in all their

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 1>ways and all their fallen, brokenness, misguided ways. He took

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>on all of that for those that believed in him,

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and then was killed for that conviction. After he lived

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>a perfect life for our example, and then he was

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>resurrected from the dead, proving himself to be the exact

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>image of God that he said that he was in

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 1>front of eyewitnesses. And that message is the gospel, and

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that message is all you could tell to your brother,

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and you got to tell it to your dad and

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>your mother, and you got to tell it to yourself,

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and you've got to believe it. And that is the

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 1>story of our salvation. Period. Yeah, man I love that, Like,

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else to say. I mean, God,

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that's so good. Without so Colin, you know things about

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>your brother we don't know. So I would just encourage

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 1>you to continue that brotherhood. Yeah, continue pushing in, continue

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>being open about your faith and about what you believe,

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and curious as to where he is and why he

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>feels the way he feels, or why he believes what

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>he believes, why his standards are what they are, what's

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the basis without judgment, without judgment, just remain curious. And

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I believe you guys are going to get to a

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>place of understanding of each other. There's I think the

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 1>last question is what can we do to or what

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 1>it says we can't help, but let in let in

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the feeling that we should be doing something more, just

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 1>doing something more for him, yeah, or it says or

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>something different to help him. Yeah, And the answer is no,

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>there's not besides that message of the gospel. I just said, yeah, absolutely,

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and pray for him, like genuinely intercede for him and

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.439
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your family, because like Granger said,

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>no one here is righteous, not even one. So you

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 1>need to lump yourself into that prayer. Jesus, have mercy

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>on me the sinner, and have mercy on my brother,

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and have mercy on my dad, and I have mercy

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:54.799
<v Speaker 1>on my mom. You are it. I notice how we're

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:56.840
<v Speaker 1>putting the whole family in this so that it's this

0:46:57.000 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>is not condemning your brother because of because of who

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 1>he is or what he's doing. That's not because you're

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 1>all in this together as sinners. I think what we

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 1>can tend to do is we can tend to like

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>focus and isolate sin and then category or put it

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>into different categories and hierarchies level. This one's worse than

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.359
<v Speaker 1>this one, and so now we know who to pray

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 1>for more than somebody else. And I think what we're

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>saying is is like, no, if this family can come

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 1>together under that banner of repentance and under the banner

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>of we are all desperate, I think there can really

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>be some restoration and some healing and some understanding that

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.839
<v Speaker 1>is not there. I think there can be some exposure

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 1>of some sin maybe in your parents and maybe in

0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you that you were unaware of. Without knowing your brother

0:47:54.880 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and where his position is in his walk in his faith,

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>if he's left the faith, because maybe he was condemned

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:09.400
<v Speaker 1>because he came out, which is not an uncommon story. Yep, right,

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 1>but it's terrible. It's terrible. You need to put your

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>arm back around and say you're still in this family.

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Come here, bro, Let's let's have these conver let's have

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:25.320
<v Speaker 1>these difficult conversations. Let's wade into this deep water together.

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:27.959
<v Speaker 1>I think there's gonna be a lot of healing there.

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 1>What happens with him, what happens with you? I mean,

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>only God knows. You can't convince him intellectually to believe

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the gospel. You can't convince him psychology, psychologically or or philosophically.

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 1>You're not capable of doing that. And I'm not and

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 1>nobody is the power of the gospel. It is what

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>can do it alone. And lean into that and wrestle

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.919
<v Speaker 1>with your own sin, wrestle with the own your own

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 1>problems that you're having, with your wondering eyes, with other girls,

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 1>or whatever that might be, and and recognize that, and

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>love him relentlessly because he's your brother, and don't judge him,

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and forgive him and and and do give him the

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.840
<v Speaker 1>grace that that has been given to you from Jesus.

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 1>And know that I know that Jesus saves. The power

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 1>of the Gospel is your message, and that's that's that

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.719
<v Speaker 1>is your that is your sword that you go into

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>battle with. Is that message, and never let go of it.

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And uh and and the power of God. The Gospel

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>will do what it's going to do. Hey man, brother,

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, can I can I just pat my own

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>back real quick and say that I just before he

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>has tackled that question on the podcast and I'm a

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 1>country singer. Yeah, I'll pat you on the back. Wow, dude. Yeah,

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.759
<v Speaker 1>I think he did well. Man, I'm not Maybe we'll

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 1>see how many We'll see how many comments. Yeah, maybe

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I lost a lot of followers. I don't know, But guys,

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:00.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm sticking to a convict that I feel like

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>is the most important message. That's way more important than

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 1>my own popularity. Yeah. So you wanted to go to

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the generics, Yeah, one of the generics. I

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 1>just said number two because you know there's two of us,

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:19.799
<v Speaker 1>and okay, I didn't want to give the first person though. Okay, Well,

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I literally count how many people gave a subject line

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 1>a podcast question, and I'll go to number two. So

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>there's one two here. We go, little boy, It's a

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>long one. There we go. Don't know what this is?

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Says hey there. My name is Melissa. I live out

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 1>in New Mexico, but I've lived just about everywhere on

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the East Coast, including South Carolina, Maine, Massachusetts, et cetera.

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I grew up in church ever since I could remember.

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Here we go again burns another church question, and I

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>felt the Holy Spirit touch me on multiple occasions, and

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>all throughout my life, I've had moments where I've I've

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:58.880
<v Speaker 1>doubted him and I've doubted his existence, and I've always

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 1>just kept it inside of me, even though I know

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that he's real because I've experienced his presence. But every now,

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.840
<v Speaker 1>but every now and then, as the word gets more corrupt,

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and as the world gets more corrupt and out of control,

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I still have these doubts and I don't understand why.

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Why can't I just believe wholeheartedly? I know that the

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 1>devil is always trying to draw you away from God?

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Is that what this is? I also just wanted to

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 1>say thank you for everything that you do with your family.

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Congrats on the new little one. I followed you for

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of years. Thank you very much. Melissa shout

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>out to New Mexico. Okay, a couple directions with this question.

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a great question, it's it's a common question, and

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to clear something up that

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:47.719
<v Speaker 1>you didn't directly say, Melissa, but I just want to

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of speak to it that that our our faith

0:51:53.520 --> 0:52:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and our beliefs are not they cannot be whimsical. Blind

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 1>faith can't. It's not supposed to be. It's not more.

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:07.680
<v Speaker 1>We're called no human is called to believe some crazy,

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 1>weird myth that no one could testify or or clarify

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 1>in any way. And so the only way that you

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 1>could lean into this kind of faith is through the

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:26.319
<v Speaker 1>only thing. Okay, we have one of two things. We

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>have two things that we could lean into with our faith.

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.399
<v Speaker 1>One is, and I've heard this said before, the Book

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of Nature. It's rarely talked about, but the Book of Nature,

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not a book, it's just it's it's the idea

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:42.799
<v Speaker 1>that when you walk out into this world that is

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 1>in perfect sink, that is in perfect order, the the

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the have you heard, Bernie, the idea of the perfect

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:55.160
<v Speaker 1>universe scenario. Now, it's this idea that the way, the

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 1>way that this Earth is and the way that it

0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 1>rotates in this solar system, around this sun, everything about it,

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:07.879
<v Speaker 1>everything is so perfect to the point zero zero zero

0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 1>zero zero zero one that it's like it's a crazy

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 1>number of zeros before that one. It's perfectly aligned in

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:21.359
<v Speaker 1>every way for our existence on this planet. And it's

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>not hard to see when you go to see an

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.759
<v Speaker 1>incredible sunset, or you see the ocean waves and the

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>tide moving in and out, or you go to the

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Grand Canyon and take in the space and see the

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 1>mountains and see a snowflake and the intricacies of the

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 1>snowflake itself. You see that there is an order to this.

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>There is a purpose that is way beyond the possibility

0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of an accident. And when we look in the best

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 1>telescopes that we have, and we look and look and

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 1>look and deep into the stars, and we struggle so

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 1>hard to find a planet similar to this one where

0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 1>we can go, oh, there's another one that's perfect. H

0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard to do that. And here we are

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of this solar system, just floating around,

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:12.799
<v Speaker 1>and this something about it has an uncanny order that

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 1>you have to go, Man, this this is go look

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 1>at a butterfly. Go look at it, Go look at

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>a little baby, and you go that this is evidence

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:26.600
<v Speaker 1>in nature right here. That's the way I called it

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:29.279
<v Speaker 1>the Book of Nature. There's evidence here that that that

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:32.839
<v Speaker 1>there's a creator, but we don't know who that creator is.

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Through just that, we just see that there is an

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<v Speaker 1>order to things. There is a quote unquote higher power

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<v Speaker 1>to all of this chaos. And the second thing we

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<v Speaker 1>look to is the Bible, and that's the book, the

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Word of God that that puts us puts sense to

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that Book of Nature. It puts a it puts a

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 1>an image behind it, it puts a story behind it,

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:01.040
<v Speaker 1>it puts it puts the boundary around it. So we go,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I see it in the sunset and the

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.400
<v Speaker 1>snowflake and the baby in the Grand Canyon. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I read this book, and this book tells me why

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<v Speaker 1>and who I am and my purpose here and where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going after this life. And it gives you all

0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:19.839
<v Speaker 1>of those answers. And so through that word, and through

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>meditating on that word and reading that word and listening

0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 1>to other people preach about that word, this gives us

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a solid foundation for our faith so that when we

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<v Speaker 1>doubt we're not blind. We fall back on the foundation

0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that is built for us. And this helps you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not just believing in a weird myth mystical reason. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's great, man, I Melissa, Yes, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>can relate to Melissa. I had a very short lived

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:03.440
<v Speaker 1>music career, and whenever I was writing songs, if you

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 1>listen to any of those albums, a lot of those

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:09.840
<v Speaker 1>songs have to do with the lyrics are very similar,

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.359
<v Speaker 1>like man, just wrestling and questioning and doubting, like God,

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<v Speaker 1>are you there? Like man, I don't feel you like

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<v Speaker 1>I want to. You know, there's just all of this.

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Well I don't understand. When will I understand? There's a

0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:27.879
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of that. So this resonates with me, Melissa.

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember specifically somebody telling me one time though, because

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I would have these doubts. I would like read something

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:37.920
<v Speaker 1>either in the Bible or I'd hear something, and I

0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 1>have these doubts, and then I would kind of chase

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:43.960
<v Speaker 1>this trail and just be like, well, I just don't

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 1>understand this, and so therefore my entire faith would then

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:56.320
<v Speaker 1>be compromised. And this buddy of mine, Jacob van Horn

0:56:56.400 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine said, did you know it's okay

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:05.680
<v Speaker 1>for you not to know? So good? He said, because

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Jesus knows. It was so simple. And it did take

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:15.279
<v Speaker 1>some time for that to really sink in of some

0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:17.520
<v Speaker 1>of these parts of my faith and some of these

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>parts of like the scripture I was reading, or things

0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:24.360
<v Speaker 1>that were happening in the world that I just didn't understand.

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:30.520
<v Speaker 1>But it was like I had this this you know,

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent ninety percent understanding of things that, like you said,

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 1>like the Spirit had moved, I had seen a move

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and my eyes had been opened. I believed this like

0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:43.959
<v Speaker 1>I can't not believe it. But then this other little bit.

0:57:45.120 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>It was almost like the Spirit just came and said, hey,

0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about that. Let's just just one thing at

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a time. Just keep abiding in me, and I am

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>going to reveal to you the things that I want

0:57:57.840 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you to know right now. Maybe there's some things that

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you just need to trust me about. You don't get

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to know everything. You just need to trust me that

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:11.160
<v Speaker 1>within this order, that thing that you're kind of that's

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 1>causing you doubt in all of this, I got that,

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:17.360
<v Speaker 1>So don't worry about it, and I don't think that

0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 1>that means like you were saying that, oh well, just

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:25.440
<v Speaker 1>trust God blindly and there's no I think sometimes we

0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 1>can get very like overly analytical instead of just being

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>present where God has us in our faith, what he

0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 1>has in front of us right now, and trust that

0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 1>these things He's going to reveal to us in time.

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes we just have to wait, We have to

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 1>wait on the Lord to do it so good. I

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>want to also validate what Bernie's saying to you, Melissa,

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.720
<v Speaker 1>that you're not alone and it's not strange that you

0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:57.440
<v Speaker 1>think that. Of course I've thought that. Of course I've

0:58:57.480 --> 0:59:00.400
<v Speaker 1>gone through seasons of my life. But you can't rely

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>on a mystical spirit to lift you up all the

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:10.200
<v Speaker 1>time without verifying that through the word. And what I

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:14.800
<v Speaker 1>mean is there's a lot of there's a lot of

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:20.520
<v Speaker 1>mystical religions or even some of the Abrahamic religions that

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 1>rely or can say you just rely only on the

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:28.280
<v Speaker 1>spirit to speak to you or a dream. And you

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:30.000
<v Speaker 1>could talk to a lot of people that go, why

0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 1>do you believe? And their answer is I believe because

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>of self revelation. I believe because God speaks to me.

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 1>That's why I believe, and that's the end of the story.

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm here to say that's not enough, because anyone,

0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:48.080
<v Speaker 1>anyone could say I had a dream last night that

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a wolf spoke to me in the woods and the

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:55.920
<v Speaker 1>wolf said that he is God and he was wearing

0:59:55.920 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a red gown and a purple hat, and his name

1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:04.840
<v Speaker 1>was Stephen, and it was so real. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>God is a wolf, and God speaks to me through

1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Stephen the wolf. And you can't convince that person that

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<v Speaker 1>they're wrong. You can't because they experienced it. It It was

1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a revelation. Stephen the Wolf spoke. It was real, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was real. You can't. I'm using that example because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people that will say something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But unless you could take Stephen the Wolf and then

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<v Speaker 1>open up the Bible and go where is Stephen the Wolf?

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<v Speaker 1>And here's not in here? I think that was just

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<v Speaker 1>the pizza last night, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to diminish your question, Melissa. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to laugh at it at all, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say, as a whole, you can't just rely

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<v Speaker 1>on personal revelation or personal blind faith. You can't it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be concrete. You got to look at you

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<v Speaker 1>got to look at the word of God or feeling

1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:57.240
<v Speaker 1>or just relying on how you feel. Can't rely on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the moment there's too many, you know, psalms

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<v Speaker 1>about just like these feelings of anguish and despair. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like if they just relied on that, they probably would

1:01:09.280 --> 1:01:11.320
<v Speaker 1>have walked away, you know. But you can't just rely

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<v Speaker 1>on those feelings. It's good. I don't think I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I can go to another question after talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Steven the wolf. Yeah in the red Sorry, maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>was the pizza and somebody can somebody meme that? Please? Like,

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