1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to this podcast one Sports Need Production, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: available on Apple podcasts and podcast one. What's Happening Everybody? 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: This is the official Lakers podcast. I'm your host, Mike Tredell, 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: super pumped to be here, flanked by Aaron Lars Tool. 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: You ready to go, I'm ready to let I think 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: the Lakers will be a top ten defense. Can you're 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: telling your shot to get little. A team that has 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: two stars, or two superstars in this case of Lebron 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: and ad can sometimes cancers other out. But I think 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: they're both good candidates. Frand Peas, I really like the 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: way that this team just feels to be around the 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: It's a it's a very clear message. It's two stars 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: and le Bron and a D and it's everybody else 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: that's on board the relationship that is developing between those 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: two off the court and on the court. They're cohesive 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: nits on the court. I think in this case, this 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: is a special case that the two of them will 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: enhance each other as opposed to be taking away from 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: each other. Be sure to rate, subscribe, and leaver review. 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Available on Apple podcasts and podcast for Five hour Energy 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: helps you get through your crazy on the go life 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: and now it comes into great tropical flavors Strawberry banana 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: and tropical burst. They're delicious and can transport YouTube a 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: topical paradise. Try them both, then vote for your favorite 25 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: at five hwin dot com. You could be on the 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: go to someplace you actually want to go. Offer end 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: seven thirty one twenty Terms of plot. See www dot 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: five hwin dot com for details. Seasons greetings from all 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: of us at the Dan Patrick Show. Only the best 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: people were come holidays. Dan and dans are off what 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: we do. But the Dan Patrick Show cantinues straight on 32 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty. Who here has the house decorated? Yeah? 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: We got all kinds of special things that we have, 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: like around the door and can you bring in a 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: pill flakes? Yeah? I could picture. Yeah, he brace in 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: a company and to decorate his house for Chris. I 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: think I'm less lazy more just I just know my 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: limitations and a kid where you can't hang some something 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: of and another man can. That's correct. But the playoffs 40 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: are approaching and College bull season is here from the 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: Mercedes Been Studios in Los Angeles. This is the Dan 42 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Show, our number two Here on the Dan Patrick Show, 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, I am your host, Jason McIntyre, joined 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: by former UCLA star and ten year NBA vet Ryan Hollins. 45 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: One hour down, two to go. Uh, you know, we 46 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: had so much fun that last hour. Ryan, I thought 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: about text in the Big Boston and saying, can we 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: just tack an hour on the end of the show 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: because we I mean, we barely covered anything. We haven't 50 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: got to the NFL, uh college football. I mean we 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: basically did an hour on Lakers Clippers um and listen, 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: that game warranted it. But there is other stuff to 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: get to, like a story that dropped in The Athletic 54 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: this week, the nice timing ahead of the Lakers Clippers game, 55 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: of course, and the crux of the story was Kawhi 56 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: Leonard has built this narrative as, oh, he's such a 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: humble superstar. He's just quietly goes about his business, the 58 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: boardman gets paid, all that fun stuff, right, And then 59 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: here we have in the story in the Athletic, when 60 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard was talking to the Lakers, the guy he 61 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: handpicked not an agent, but his uncle, uncle Dennis. Sources 62 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: say the league was told that Uncle Dennis asked Lakers 63 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: officials for part ownership of the team, a private plane 64 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: that would be available at all times, a house, and 65 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Hollins is his last but certainly not least a 66 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: guaranteed amount of off court endorsement money that they could 67 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: expect if Leonard played for their team. That's a lot 68 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: to take in Ryan Hollins. Kawhi Leonard, can we officially 69 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: call him a diva? No? No, no, no, no. As 70 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, not he wanted a private plane, 71 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: not a diva move, Okay. The reason that I say no. 72 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: As an athlete, when you're hot, when you're on brother, 73 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: you have to take advantage. Kawhi Leonard is one of 74 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 1: the most sought after free agents that we had ever seen, 75 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: and in fact, not only was he was more sought 76 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: after than Kevin Durant. No, let me say this, sought 77 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: after in a sense that I believe his decision was 78 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: actually up in the air. See Kevin Durant's decision, to me, 79 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: wasn't quite up in the air. It was just it 80 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: just fell down a certain circumstance. There's no one necessarily 81 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: gonna change or sway what Kevin Durant was doing. Now 82 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: ultimate it looks like, you know, I don't mean Kevin 83 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: Durant and Nets. I mean when Durant left. Okay, see yeah, yeah, no, 84 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, But I think he I think 85 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: they had a handshake deal to the Warriors in season. 86 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: I believe that that was already in play a lot 87 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: of these, you know, I believe when it comes down 88 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: to Kawhi Leonard, he was actually available, but he was saying, well, 89 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Clippers are the girl I want to be with. But 90 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna go home with you Lakers, if I'm 91 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna go home with you Toronto Lakers already had Lebron, 92 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna have to sway me because I 93 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: know it's gonna come with a lot of scrutiny, right 94 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: and by the way, sway, by the way, private plane, 95 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: part ownership, a house, and guaranteed off court in doorset 96 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: money all fall well outside the confines of the league's 97 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: collective bargaining Agreement. So um so they didn't really go 98 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: into these negotiations in good faith. They're basically out on 99 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: ski masks that give us everything pretty much. Or that's 100 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: the only way I'm coming. That's the only way I'm coming. 101 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: As an athlete when you're hot. As I said earlier, 102 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: you know there's a small window where it's going to happen, 103 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: and especially with Kawhi Leonard. To keep in mind, Kawhi 104 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Leonard has never forgotten that year that he sat out 105 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: in San Antonio and he saw how quickly things changed. 106 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: He saw how poorly he was treated and how poorly 107 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: that the narrative had changed around him from every media outlet, 108 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: every coach, teammates, guys that he had spent the beginnings 109 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: of his career with had now thrown him completely under 110 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: the bus. So now Kawhi went into this free agency 111 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: after winning a championship, after doing the unthinkable knocking off 112 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: the Warriors due to injury. I don't agree that they 113 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: would have beat the full fledged Warriors. We both agreed 114 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: to that and said, man, I have to get everything 115 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: that I can get out of this. Now it is 116 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: the team's responsibility to say no. And ultimately he's not 117 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: the first athlete to do this. Jason's everybody so appalled you. 118 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: My big problem here is that you've found out what 119 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: happened in the negotiations, and this happens every all the time, 120 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, and you don't hear about it, 121 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: you've never hear and some of these incentive exactly why 122 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: are we hearing about here? So maybe it was a 123 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: situation where Kawhi is such a hot talking point because 124 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: they're only mad when you're doing well. If Kawhi was 125 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: stinking it up, nobody would care the only man when 126 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: you're doing well. Either was a deal, well the Lakers 127 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: pulled a salty move and lead the information, or it 128 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: was just one of those things that can easily come 129 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: up in conversation that spread like wildfire. Can you believe 130 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: what he asked for? Can you believe what he asked 131 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: him to? Playing the house there? I can't believe you're 132 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: defending this load management fraud. Let's turn back the clock 133 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: and go to you, said san Antonio. They threw him 134 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: under the bus, Ryan, I mean you remember he was 135 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: playing three on three, four on four in practice with 136 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: Tony Parker and man who that year that Kawhi Leonard said, uh, 137 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: I can't play. I'm hurt. And that's They didn't throw 138 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: under the bus. They were like, bro, he's running practice. 139 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: He looks good at practice, he looks really sharp, and 140 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't playing. That's a diva move. I don't want 141 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: to play because of a degenerative knee injury. Get out 142 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: of here. Nobody buys that. The Spurs doctors looked him 143 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: up and down for like six months. This guy's ready 144 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: to go wall. Excuse me forgive me. I didn't hear you. 145 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: He said, who's doctors? Spurs. The one thing I'm gonna 146 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: tell you again as an athlete, whenever you hear the 147 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: team psychologists, the team doctor, they're on payroll for who 148 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: the team? But it wasn't. That's why you go out 149 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: and get a second opinion. Oh man, hey, sit down 150 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: with this team psychologist. Everything's confidential. Tell him everything. As 151 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: a player. We go in the locker room saying, man, 152 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: you better not say anything to the team psychologist. Cools 153 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: she getting paid by the team. Okay, but this is 154 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: a guy who won finals MVP with them. He played 155 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: for them for multiple years. He was there, the heir 156 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: to Tim Duncan. And what incentive is there for these 157 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: doctors to screw Kawahi. Here's the deal. When you're a 158 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: young guy in your career and something happens to your 159 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: body in which you cannot explain, I'm talking Kawhi Leonard. 160 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: He had a situation. I saw it with JJ Reddick 161 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: when he was the first year with the Clippers. His 162 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: quad was not firing. He had a level of it 163 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: was either a neural deal or a patella something in 164 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: which he would play above the amount of time and 165 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: that quad would just would it would kind of go 166 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: go limp, go limp. Nooda was not working. And the 167 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: first time in your career you start to feel something 168 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: with your body that's not right. It's a scary place 169 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: to be in. And when you get out on the 170 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: court and you attempt to go play and we're talking 171 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard and say, what's wrong with my knee, what's 172 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: wrong with my leg? This doesn't feel right, And the 173 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: answers you're telling me aren't equating to what's happening, because doctor, 174 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm with you four or five hours a day, doing treatment, 175 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: getting rehab, doing all the little things, and it's not 176 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: working out. So when I look at what san Antonio did, 177 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: they were not empathetic to uh, to what Kawhi Leonard 178 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: had going on. And I get it. Manu Genobley ran 179 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: through both his knees and his ankles and had no 180 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: problem long until he was over the age where he 181 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: should have been playing. Tony Parker would risk at all hip, knee, whatever, 182 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: tim due. And guess what, that's perfect, Ryan Hollinds, what 183 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: he's saying is perfect. All these guys were Warriors. Kawhi 184 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: never has played more than seventy four games in a season. 185 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: And you know the label on Kawhi Leonard was he 186 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: Is he soft? Is he soft? He don't want to play. 187 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: He don't want to push his body to the limits. 188 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to play his limits or minute. This 189 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: is a guy who came to the league. It was 190 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: like a six man with the Spurs for a minute. Okay, 191 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: He's never played more than seventy four games in his career. 192 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: He's twenty eight. Now. Is it injuries? Is he soft? 193 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: Is he? I don't know what is it? What's the 194 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: problem with Kawhi Leonard? Why isn't he playing back to backs? 195 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: Who is this guy? Joel Embiide, It's as frustrating as 196 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: a fan. You're utterly ridiculous. Oh boy, you're absolutely absurd. 197 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre, you're somebody. Whether you consider me a good 198 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: friend or not, I consider you a good friend and 199 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: I want you to know, Uh, if he gets hurt, 200 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: no one cares. If he listens, no, no, no no, I'm 201 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: talking about it at the time. Just in here. If 202 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard gets hurt and he can't be the best 203 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard that he can be, nobody cares. They move on. 204 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: You're as good as done as an athlete. The reality 205 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to Kawhi Leonard, only knew you know 206 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: your body, and when Kawhi gets on the floor, you 207 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: all you see is this guy who's six eight, you know, 208 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: two hundred, you know, forty forty thirty pounds, who can dribble, shoot, 209 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: jump out the gym, and you see his physical stature 210 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: in nature. Only he knows how he feels. And it's 211 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: an old school throwback mentality where you go out and 212 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: you run yourself into the ground when you're no longer 213 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: good you you you just you go on. And there 214 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: are only a few guys, you guys who can actually 215 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: do that at a high level. And like, I'm glad 216 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: you brought up Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan didn't have the 217 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: injuries that a lot of these guys have that the 218 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: normal players. He's in air quotes because we still don't 219 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: know what's wrong with Kawhi? I have not gotten a 220 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: definitive word. If you want to say, hey, doctor client confidentiality, fine, okay, 221 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: well then you do you give me the real story. 222 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna say, let me share something with you. 223 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: He probably doesn't really know. And even more scary, the 224 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: doctors probably still didn't and especially at that time in Sanataneo, 225 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: did not really understand. Do you know how scary it 226 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: is to go into the doctor and you say, man, 227 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: what's wrong with me? What's wrong with I'm coughing on whatever, 228 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm sick, my knee hurts, my elpboard, and the doctor goes, ah, 229 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not sure, And then the doctor 230 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: go You go and tell the doctor man, I did 231 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: everything you told me, and my knee still hurts. Oh, 232 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. Just play through it? 233 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: What okay? Uh, that's fair, that's all good and well. 234 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: But that that argument falls apart because how often does 235 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard this playoff games? Ah, Ryan hollins that that knee, 236 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: that's oh, it's just degenerative, and something's always wrong. But 237 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, his knee never really flares up. Isn't 238 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: that the exact argument why he is soft though he's 239 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: trying to be ready this time of the when when 240 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: the chips are down tough time, Kawhi Leonard says, I 241 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: will show up every day and be a warrior, but 242 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: during the season I'm not. I'm not gonna play in November. 243 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: Let me post how is that behavior? Let me post 244 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: until you know, Jason mcintard, there's not too many sports 245 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: they get past you. You know every stat, every player, 246 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: You don't miss a beat, and you're you are uber 247 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: uber informed, uber informed. No, no, no, I'm a big 248 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: fan brother. So there was a point when Toronto and 249 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard they were playing Philadelphia, and I forget which 250 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: game it was, but you literally saw Kawhi get to 251 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: a point where Kawhi, I believe in game five and 252 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: on after Philly was literally dragging his leg up and 253 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: down the court that you could see Kawhi playing in 254 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals and playoffs on one leg. Something happened 255 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: to where Kawhi's leg went out and it was even interesting. 256 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: Remember when he dunked on Yannis, he dunked on him 257 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: left handed. Kawhi Leonard literally ran and jumped off of 258 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: one leg, palms it with his left hand and dunks 259 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: on Yannis onto the coupo. So he did everything that 260 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about on one leg. That can only last 261 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: for soul long. You only want that from Kawhi in 262 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: an all or nothing type of situation. And you you 263 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: gotta understand with Kawai's knee. And I'm not no doctor. 264 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: I just played the game for ten years, foreign college, 265 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: foreign high school, had knee problems the entire time. It's 266 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: part of an NBA career. You can see that knee 267 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: get a certain level of fatigue and not fire and 268 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: not work the same. I don't know if he's got 269 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: conjure malaia, which is roughage of the kneecap which causes swelling. 270 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Kawhi Leonard does not want to overwork 271 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: his quad or need to a certain extent because it 272 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: will literally give out on him. So he will overwork 273 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: it in the playoffs, right, but he won't in the 274 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: regular season. Interesting, so I don't remember, is that wrong? Well, 275 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: you say that really open ended. Now we're getting down 276 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: to the crux. But let me look back at this 277 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: six or series when they barely wanted that Kawhi Prayer 278 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: shot in the corner. Um. He took thirty nine shots 279 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: in that game, forty one point. Boy, I'm sure the 280 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: knee was just killing him. Um, you know. And then 281 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: the next series he gets Milwaukee, he got to the 282 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: line in average of ten times a game. Boy, I'm 283 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: sure the knee was just brutal. Oh my gosh, he 284 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: only averaged twenty nine and nine. And then in the finals, 285 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: of course, getting guarded by you know, Warriors backups and 286 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: G league guys. Uh, he had a really good sears, 287 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: so warrior, tough guy in the playoffs and then regular season, 288 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: no how to win it? So okay, So here, you 289 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: guys make some fair reals. And I don't want to 290 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: act like I'm going you're arguing for like guys they 291 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: only care about going to the Pro Bowl, Like I'm 292 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: gonna put up these regular seasons? Who cares about the 293 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: regular season? That? And Gavin points to a fine thing 294 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: if that's the new NBA, Hey man, we care about 295 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's not when Lebron. Right now, they got 296 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: back to back this week. Lebron probably ain't playing in 297 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: both of them. And I am going to the Mavericks 298 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Lakers game on Sunday. Will you be there? Lucas supposed 299 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: to be back by the way, I don't know. I 300 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: might be okay, So I don't if Lebron starts taking 301 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: days off. I want the same energy you guys have 302 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: for defending Kawai for to defend Lebron when he takes 303 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: off a back to back look at me like that 304 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: I love. I just look at me like I love 305 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: load Manager. And that goes to all you meet heads 306 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: out there listening to the Dan Patrick show. Okay, and 307 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: you could have come on Twitter and bass Lebron keep 308 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: that same energy for Kawhi, because I just feel like 309 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: it's a double standard. Kawhi has been slammed and the 310 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: big slam. Kawhi has been slammed for load management. What 311 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: was that named? The media members who have slam Kawhi. 312 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: This is a title wave of Kawhi Leonard and load 313 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: Kawhi is so quiet, you got a certain they gotta 314 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: dig into the art. They had to find out what 315 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: happened with Uncle Dennis in his meeting and him to 316 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: miss a Milwaukee Bucks game early in the season for 317 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: to to find anything. The guy gives nothing. First week 318 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: in the season, he's load. The guy gives you nothing? Well, 319 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean clearly he played into the NBA Finals on 320 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: a bad knee. The guy had knee. Okay, did I 321 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: hear some real facts? Let me oh, he's got a 322 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: bad knee. I mean he shucks, I think. Let me 323 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: ask you one honest, Let me ask you something. Let 324 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: me ask you something. Did you see Kawhi Leonard in 325 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs limping up and down the course? Who? No, No, 326 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: it's a question. We gotta go to break. I'm gonna 327 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: go with no for now, but I'm gonna go and 328 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: see if I can find you. Are a man. I 329 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: mean he didn't miss no game if he was so 330 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: beat up, Ryan Hollins, he can't sit out of games. Winner, 331 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: go home? No, you got seven game series or up 332 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: three one, three, two? Whatever? Do you sit out of game? 333 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: Here's something else, man, Uncle Dennis, Come on, come at me, 334 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: bro Oh here on the Dan Patrick Show. Want to 335 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: hear something amazing? Discover matches all the cash back you 336 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: are and at the end of your first year automatically 337 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: dollar four dollar with no less on how much you 338 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: can earn. It's amazing, so amazing that millions of people 339 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: a year are getting their cash back matched. You get 340 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: the cash back match and then even more cash to 341 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: match it discovered cash back match. What are you waiting for? 342 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: Learn more at discover dot com slash match. That's Discover 343 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: discover dot com slash Match. Okay, so a solid seventy 344 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: minutes on lebron Clippers Lakers. I know that those of 345 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: you listening in LA love this. However, we are a 346 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: national show. We will be branching out because guess what 347 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Ryan Hollins knows how to fix the Dallas Cowboys who 348 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: are going to miss the playoffs? Does it involve keeping 349 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett? Probably not, but it might. That's next here 350 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: on The Dan Patrick Show. This summer. There's only one 351 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: trusted place that lets you get in on all your 352 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: favorite sports betting action, bet online dot Ag. Sign up 353 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: today for a free account at bet online dot ag 354 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: and use promo code podcast one for your fifty percent 355 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: off welcome bonus. Or text bet now to two three 356 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: eight six sixty nine. That's b et n ow to 357 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: two three eight six sixty nine to receive your fifty 358 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: percent welcome bonus. Don't sit on the sidelines this summer 359 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: from Major League Baseball to the Women's World Cup and 360 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: all things UFC. Bet online dot ag as you covered, 361 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: visit bet online dot ag and don't forget to use 362 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: the promo code podcast one bet online dot ag, your 363 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: online sportsbook experts. Five hour energy helps you get through 364 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: your crazy on the go light and now it comes 365 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: in two great tropical flavors Strawberry Banana and tropical Burst. 366 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: They're delicious and can transport YouTube a tropical paradise. Try 367 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: them both, then vote for your favorite at five hwin 368 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: dot com. You could be on the go to someplace 369 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: you actually want to go. Offer end seven thirty one 370 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: twenty Terms ofpl See www dot five hwin dot com 371 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: for details. Curtis Slow and Christmas. One thing, I'm back 372 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: here on the Dan Patrick Show. He's Ryan Hollins, defender 373 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: of all things Kawhi Leonard Oh, I am Jason McIntyre 374 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: and I just may I broke my own rule, Ryan Hollins. 375 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: I went on Twitter and guy coming after me for 376 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: calling Kawhi a diva. And I just hope you listen 377 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: to the whole thing and not just you know thirty 378 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: seconds that it was hard. No listen, nobody comes out. 379 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: I mean what's funny? And I know you get this 380 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: probably more than I do. Online people will come at 381 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: you hard as hell in public. I've never had someone 382 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: come up and opening with any of this garbage that 383 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: they ever never what's up? Man? And then maybe after 384 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: you talk to the you know, like I would be 385 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: with my family and someone will like at a store 386 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: will oh yeah, Jason, I've seen you on the Herd 387 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: or whatever, and eventually be like, I can't believe you 388 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: love so this guy so much. And okay, we talk 389 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: about it and whatever. But people come out on social 390 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: media's comical. It's very disappointing. It's disheartening. Yeah, you know, 391 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: as a parent, and we talked about it a little earlier. 392 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: You know, I got four kids, and I see some 393 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: of these young kids just using every obscenity in the book, 394 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: and it's like, do your parents know what you're doing online? 395 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: And even more frustrating, you know, sometimes they're these young 396 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: athletes and you go, guys, you know someone's gonna see this, 397 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: or if you ever plan on doing anything with your 398 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: life or or playing anywhere, the first thing that they're 399 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: gonna go to is your social media and they see 400 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: all the nonsense you're doing. Do you see the Jason 401 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: we got to do our nonsense, you know, in the 402 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: confines a home. Glad. I don't know about you. I'm 403 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: glad there was doing social media when I was thinking 404 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: my point early twenties, like I was a mess. I 405 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: still am kind of a mess. Yeah. Well, I mean 406 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: it's nuanced. They all are. Yeah, they all are. Um. 407 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: I love Uncle Dennis. By the way, did you say 408 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: I wish I had Uncle Dennis? Really? Did you got? 409 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: You got people in your corner? Yeah, but I can 410 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: use Hey, uncle Dennis, you want to represent me on 411 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: my next negotiations? Isn't that just great negotiation tactics? Yeah? 412 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: Give me a house and he let me. How many 413 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: connections do the Lakers have? I know, we don't want 414 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: to dive into MANI it would have been probably more 415 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: than any team in the league. How easy it would 416 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: have been for the Lakers to reach out to Jack 417 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: Nicholson or some billionaires say hey happens let let Hey 418 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: you didn't hear this from us, we'll deny it. But 419 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: can Kauai stand your your summer house? Hey? Can Kauai 420 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: use your fifth plane? Can kau like like, hey, you 421 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: didn't hear this from us. And what happens when somebody 422 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: decides to play dirty pool and the Clippers lose out 423 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: on Kauai to the Lakers, and they say, well, here's 424 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 1: what happened. You know this, Yeah, they're just the I mean, 425 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: how many times did the Lakers been firing for tampering 426 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: which is the dumbest thing ever in the last four 427 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: year everybody, Yeah, Magic Johnson jokes on Jimmy Kimmel about 428 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: Paul George or whoever, and it's like, Lakers find five 429 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: hundred thousand for tamperings. Some the Lakers can't do that. 430 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: They're held to a different stands. You just can't tamper 431 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: in people's face, like you know, like you like, everybody 432 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: knows what happened, but just don't do it in my face. 433 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: Don't do it in my face. So do you believe 434 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL Jerry Jones should be temporary? We know 435 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: he's reaching out to people behind the scenes about Jason 436 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Garrett Cowboys obviously devastating loss on the road to the Eagles. 437 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: The offense which is supposed to be this machine held 438 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: without a touchdown. I mean, it was embarrassing. I've never 439 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: been a Dak guy, he didn't look sharp. These receivers 440 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: dropped like six passes cowboys at a crossroad. Ryan Hollins, 441 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: if you're Jerry Jones and Jerry Jones was listening to 442 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show today? Is that man that Ryan 443 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: Hollins guys interesting? Let me get his number, Let me 444 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: text him and Jerry Jones the Billionaires? Is Ryan? Any 445 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on the coaching situation? What do you got for one? 446 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones doesn't want to be his worst enemy. And 447 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: I say that in a sense I think that's impossible. 448 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: He's looking right right, right, Well, let me give you 449 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: a perspective here, he's looking at Dak Prescott. He's looking 450 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: at Jason Garrett. You're looking at at Zeke Mark Cooper 451 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: to which he didn't pay one in which he did. 452 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: When we're talking to Zeke and he's blaming everybody? What 453 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: went wrong? What went wrong? I spent everything, I'll put 454 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: it together. We can't get a chance. You went wrong? 455 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Why not only did you jump in and 456 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: not allow Jason Garrett to do his jobs to the 457 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: best of visibility because you are too seen to herd 458 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: to vocal in the media about how you want to 459 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: grade your team. Those are conversations in which should have 460 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: happened behind closed doors. That's for one. You don't see 461 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: championship organizations stepping out owners and scrutinizing their head coaches 462 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: after games that win games. That's the first off. Secondly, 463 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, as we look to the future, you have 464 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: to think if you want to bring in an Urban Meyer, 465 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: you want to bring in some of these big names 466 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: as coach, you are auditioning for them because right now, 467 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, there's no amount of money you're gonna be 468 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: able to throw out these guys to step into a 469 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: situation in which you run them, you micro manage them 470 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: from afar, and you scrutinize them after a game. Because 471 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: if you disrespect Jason Garrett when things go wrong, and 472 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: he's supposed to be your guy, and for the most 473 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: part he stood by Jason Garrett. He's been a defender 474 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: of Jason Garrett. If you step up and do that, 475 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: how do you know that Urban Meyer and a couple 476 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: of these other coaches aren't gonna sit back and say, yo, 477 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: if I lose a game or two, Jerry, I don't 478 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: want to hear you getting that me in the media. 479 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: How do I know I can trust you? How do 480 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: I know that I can trust you? How do I 481 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: know that you're gonna allow me to do my job? 482 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: When you don't pay your quarterback? Do you put him 483 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: in a situation? You put your offensive coordinator in a 484 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: situation and we're talking, we're talking Dallas, in which he 485 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: has to get out of his comfort zone. He's trying 486 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: to show you that he's something that he's not at 487 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: this moment in his career. Dak Prescott is not a 488 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: guy that I'm expecting three hundred plus yards from per game? 489 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Well? Am I wrong? Hopefully right? Well, wait, 490 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: you're saying it almost sounds like you think Jerry should 491 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: have paid Dak. He should have come to an agreement. 492 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: Not a highest paid quarterback, not something wild, a reasonable agreement. 493 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: Give me what is reasonable. I don't think he's a 494 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: top five I don't think he wins money. I don't 495 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: think he's that he wanted that. But guess what, I'm 496 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: sure Dak Prescott is mature and reasonable enough to where 497 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: he would have come in and you could have settled 498 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: on a number. So the problem with that is Dak 499 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: was making because he was a mid round pick, like 500 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: five hundred, six hundred seven hundred thousand dollars a year, 501 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: And so he said, y'all had me on the discount 502 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: for a minute, and we went to the playoffs. It's 503 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: time to pay up, and I want third plus me. 504 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: And if we stay in the preseason and you look 505 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: at all the metrics, the numbers, he advanced stats, he's 506 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: an average quarterback in a fifteen to twenty two range. 507 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: That ain't thirty million dollars. So then Dak comes out 508 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: and really screws Jerry by torching the league for the 509 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: first three games against bad teams. And that is price 510 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: what up. It's like, you, Ryan Hollins, you go out 511 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: on a ten day contract with somebody, you look awesome, 512 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: and you're like, whoa, okay, so we're gonna sign it 513 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. You played great. I 514 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: need big money. I need to get paid. You had 515 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: a chance earlier to sign me, and it feels like 516 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: Jerry kind of might have screwed that up. I wouldn't 517 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: pay Dak. You got a franchise. He tell this to 518 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: you too. You can obviously franchise tag him, which I 519 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: think is a poor move for your quarterback, because if 520 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: he's not right, the rest of the team is not right. 521 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: And I don't want to say that Dak Prescott handled 522 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: the situation poorly, or he hadn't been mature, or hadn't 523 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: brought his leadership to the table, But I know there's 524 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: a certain It's just you're just comfortable when you're paid. 525 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: I remember after I played for Dallas, I was a 526 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: free agent and Minnesota offered me seven million dollars a year. No, 527 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: not a year, it was for it was for three years, right, 528 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: And my mindset, you see all these other NBA guys 529 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: getting paid. You see big money, Max contract, one hundred million, 530 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: fifty million, sixty million, Samuel Dollar, Mary was making fifty 531 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: million dollars, and I was like, man, I want more 532 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: money than that. I want to like, you know, I'm naive. 533 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm in my own head gonna and guess what after 534 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: I sat on it, and me and my agent taught 535 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: we go, Man, dude, you got an opportunity to make 536 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: more money than you've ever made in your life. You 537 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: gotta you know what I'm saying. So that's seven million 538 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: dollars ain't something I was about to pass up on. 539 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: So what happened. Oh, obviously I took it. I played 540 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: for the Minnesota different. Well we're not. We're not a 541 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: food now. But I say that when I bring up Dak, Dak, 542 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: you may have felt like you were much more. But 543 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: if the reasonable offer had have been put out and 544 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: you had have been driven home, I cannot see and 545 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: forgive me. Maybe I'm wrong, Dak Prescott ultimately just walking 546 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: or you should have been banging his door. Do come on, Dak, 547 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: come on, da come on, Dack. You guys, it's your 548 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: job as an owner negotiator, whatever it may be, to 549 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: come to terms with it. And maybe it's you not 550 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: paying Zeke in the middle linebacker and everybody else, everybody 551 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: else before Dak, because now he's looking at them and going, man, 552 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: you got the money, dog, you got the money. So 553 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: you clearly don't believe in me. You don't believe in me. 554 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: So now you're in a situation you're better off just 555 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: moving on. You're better off moving on. Come on, man, 556 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: So so okay, so Ryan, So we we both agree 557 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: on Dak. But I don't know if excuse me, the 558 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: rest of your team is in a bad place. It's nevertheless, 559 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: it came down to one game. You beat the Eagles, 560 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs, you've already squashed him earlier in 561 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: the year. Come out totally flat, fall behind instantly. Usually 562 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: that's on the coach, right the team's not prepared, doesn't 563 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: have a great game plan or whatever. Against so many 564 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: good teams lost to my Jets, who were not very 565 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: good this year, and I don't know, I just feel 566 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: like you're not gonna be able to do like you said. 567 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones wants somebody can control. So just a quick 568 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: history of Jerry Jones. Wins with Jimmy Johnson. He could 569 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: not control Jimmy Johnson, wins with Barry Switzer. He could 570 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: not control Barry Switzer. So Jerry wanted more credit than 571 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: his coaches. So what does he do. He goes out 572 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: and gets Chan Gaily Dave Campo. Then he's like, no, no, no, 573 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: I need to get a we need to get back 574 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: to our winning ways. Bill Parcells, Bill Parcels. At the end, 575 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: Bill Parcells, like Bill Parcells, hangs out a couple of 576 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: years out and then the last two coaches are Wade Phillips, 577 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: who he could be his puppet, didn't win squat Jason 578 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: Garrett puppet but not winning. So at this stage, Jerry Jones, 579 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: billionaire's about to eight, close to eighty years old. Do 580 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: you believe he will put his ego aside and say, Okay, 581 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: I need to go get the best man for the job, 582 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: even if that means I can't go talk to the 583 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: media after games, I can't call into radio shows. Jerry 584 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: Jones does like that? Can he put his ego aside 585 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: at eighty years old? Man, he's not gonna have a 586 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: choice because ultimately, who's gonna tell him to do that? 587 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: Damn team? Hey man, Jerry and a lot of these 588 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: owners fall into these situations. Is not just football, happens 589 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: a lot in basketball and baseball too. You can't fall 590 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: in love with the guy that you like, and it's 591 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: better as an owner for you not to be seen. 592 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: Now I understand the only owner in which it actually 593 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: works for and I'm gonna credit him one of my 594 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 1: former owners and balls that we talked about him earlier, 595 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban and taught himself the game of basketball. 596 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban went from just a fan of the game 597 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: to actually sitting down watching the film, watching tape, watching games, 598 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: from an analytical standpoint to learn basketball, so that when 599 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban steps in to say who he wants signed, 600 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: who he wants in the team, and how it's gonna 601 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: work out, Mark is actually very more knowledgeable and Mark 602 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: hands on though Mark step back, No, no, not with 603 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: the players himself. Mark Mark, Mark Cuban stepped back, and 604 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: he has a trust within Rick Carlisle. They have a 605 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: good working relationship. And obviously Rick Carlisle overachieved at the position. 606 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: But Mark Cuban when he puts his stamp on how 607 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: he wants to see things run, he actually knows what 608 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: he's talking about. Now. See when he had Avery Avery Johnson, 609 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: he micromanage Avery literally during the game. And I don't 610 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: know if you know this during the games. And this 611 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: is before I was there. I came the year after 612 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: Avery Johnson beat on the bench and he'd be coaching 613 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: and he would get these little note cards play to 614 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: him from Mark Cuban and said, hey, you know, put 615 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: put dam Pierre back in the game for this many minutes. Hey, 616 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: Michael Finley's not getting a ball run someplace, And Mark 617 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: Cuban would be coaching or putting a little It didn't 618 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: work like that. Hell no, didn't worry. Okay, and Avery Bradley, 619 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 1: excuse me, Avery. Avery Johnson had a tough time coaching 620 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: the Dallas Mayor. Jerry Johnson. Obviously, I don't believe he's 621 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: sending note cards down. But when you you have, when 622 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: you have your entire team on a tryout and you 623 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to be Super Bowl contenders, this is 624 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: where let's compare this. Compare the Dallas Cowboys to the Rams. JA. 625 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: The Rams went out and grossly overpaid for their guys. 626 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: They had a stud young coach, Sean McVeigh and it 627 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: worked out. But guess what they paid their guys and 628 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: they're comfortable, and they didn't win a super Bowl, but 629 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: they got to a Super Bowl. Dallas Cowboys, everybody's uncomfortable. Yeah, 630 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: they'd play uncomfortable Jerry. There's no way Jerry's stepping back. 631 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: There's no way. He's just not gonna ru there's winning. 632 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: I'm just we gotta go to break here. I'm gonna 633 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: give you two names, guys, college football coaches, because I 634 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: do believe Jerry. I don't think he's getting Urban Meyer. Okay, 635 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: you you've been at FS one. A couple of times 636 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer's over there. I'm just gonna say he ain't 637 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: getting urban miner to pay for him. It's the best 638 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: thing urban dollar job. Like, what's is Gruden? I'll give 639 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: you two names. I believe one of these two will 640 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: be the next Cowboys coach. Matt Rule of Baylor. He 641 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: has done really good things at Temple and now Baylor. 642 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: And the other guys Matt Campbell at Iowa State. Now 643 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna think. Wait, these are these 644 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: guys haven't accomplished enough. They're at the point where I 645 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: think they would make the leap because they've kind of 646 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: maxed out their programs Baylor and Iowa State. And they're 647 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: two young, discipline arians smart can reach out to the 648 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: uh millennial athlete. I think one of those two guys, 649 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: Rule or Campbell will be the next Cowboys coach. All right, 650 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: Coming up next here on The Dan Patrick Show, Ryan Hollins, 651 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: u c L A Brewing great Um College Football Playoffs Saturday. 652 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: Is u c LA in that? I'm are they in that? 653 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. Go listen. I graduated from James 654 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: Madison University. They are in the championship game. I'm pretty 655 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: sure who do you claim as a real school? Though? 656 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: Who do you claim real school? L Normally, like the 657 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: smaller school guys always claim like, I'm I went to 658 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech for two years. Um, so you know I 659 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: like Virginia Tech and route for them. But I'm an 660 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: East Coast guy. I just got out here the West 661 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: Coast three years ago to do. Who do you really 662 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: claim as a school? If you were walking around your 663 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: school with another schools, you know, shirt on, I don't 664 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: use that. I only wear JMU gear and listen. It's 665 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: a good talking point for the ladies because a lot 666 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: of ladies no JMU big school and a little suave 667 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: and cool ladies. Dan Patrick's Show, He's Ryan Hollins, I'm 668 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: Jason mcintar. So we are gonna do a little college 669 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: football playoff. I don't know if you guys have seen 670 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: the lines for this game. Kind of interesting stuff happening here, 671 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: and there is a big injury you've got to monitor. 672 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: So we'll do college football playoff next here on the 673 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick's Show. Everybody's got it to do? List. I 674 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: get one from my wife, drop off the dry cleaning, 675 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: pick up some milk, figure out something to get out 676 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 1: of the house so I can relax. Here's an idea. 677 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car inturns. The 678 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: good thing. You don't have to drop off or pick 679 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: up anything. All you have to do is go to 680 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: gego dot com and fifteen minutes you could be saving 681 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: fifteen percent or more on car interns. Do you like 682 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: extra money in your pocket? You like not having a 683 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: drive somewhere to pick something up. This is a way 684 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: to do it. It just may be the most rewarding 685 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: thing on your to do list today. That's Geico dot com. Hey, listeners, 686 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 1: just wanted to take a minute to thank all our 687 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting 688 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: this podcast. We certainly couldn't do without either of you, 689 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: and I wanted to remind you that you can support 690 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: our sponsors by going to our showpage at podcast one 691 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: dot com, clicking on the support this podcast button, and 692 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: there you will see all our wonderful sponsors that help 693 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: make this show possible. Thank you for downloading, subscribing, and 694 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: of course supporting. And now back to the show. Five 695 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: hour Energy helps you get through your crazy it on 696 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: the golfe and now it comes into great tropical flavors 697 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: strawberry banana and tropical bursts. They're delicious and can transport 698 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: YouTube a topical paradise. Try them both, then vote for 699 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: your favorite at five hwin dot com. You could be 700 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: on the go to someplace you actually want to go. 701 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: Offer end seven thirty one on terms of plot so 702 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: www dot by bhwin dot com for details. How much 703 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: fun it's gone to be back here on the Dan 704 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Show this Christmas fireside, I want to hear something amazing. 705 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: Discover matches all the cash back you earn at the 706 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: end of your first year, automatically with no limit to 707 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: how much, will match millions of people a year getting 708 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: their cash back matched. Discover Cashback Match. What are you 709 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 1: waiting for? Learn more at discover dot com Slash cash 710 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: back Match. Ryan Hollins, have you seen Rise of the 711 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: Skywalker yet? I have not. Are you a Star Wars guy? 712 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely a Star Wars guy on a top of 713 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: my list. Have you seen it? Rearrange your priorities? Yeah? 714 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: I sawt Opening Night with my eight year old like that. 715 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because we've been waiting on this for a while. Yeah, 716 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: I have been teasing us for a Walt awesome movie. 717 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: And you know what I loved is the synergy. I 718 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: think it was TBS or TNT. One of those did 719 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: a Star Wars marathon last weekend. So then you come 720 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: out of Rise of the Skywalker and you're like, oh, 721 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: let me catch up on Rogue one and all these 722 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: other ones. Yeah, have you been watching the Mandalorian? Now? Listen? 723 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: I have not, but I just got Disney Plus two 724 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: days ago. Gavin, a producer here, told me, Jake, you 725 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: gotta get Disney Plus Mandalorian. So I got it, like 726 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: heavily discounted on Christmas Eve, just so the kids could 727 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: watch home alone. Uh. And then I see Mandalorian. So 728 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: as soon as I get some free time next few days, 729 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. I don't really know what it was. 730 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what I started watching it, but it's 731 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: it's crazy, Okay, It's like it's kind of like, yo, 732 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: like do I get to watch this at home? Like? 733 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: This is kind of good? Yeah? This is like too good? 734 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: Like how much did y'all budget for this? I? Uh, 735 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if the dan Patrick crowd is into 736 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: Star Wars? What's your guests on that? Gavin dan Patrick's 737 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: show I mean, I've hoped to Dana. Probably it doesn't 738 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: time Original Trilogy group. I think they're you know, like 739 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, I just I wonder if they're gonna blow 740 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: up my Instagram in box. Someone can hear you nerd 741 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: out about Lebron James. They they're definitely in was okay, 742 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: all right? What about the college football Playoff? What's your 743 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: interest level for that? Ryan Hollins on Saturday, I need 744 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: you to get me up to day. I've listened. Listen. 745 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: It's pretty hard for us UCLA Bruins. We we haven't 746 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: played football in Westwood for a long time. By the way, 747 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: us usc is garbage is normal, but ultimately we don't. 748 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's tough. I'm a West Coast guy, man, Yeah, 749 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm a West Coast guy. That's how I realized the 750 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 1: college football Playoff was not big out here in LA. 751 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: So I had a weekly Monday pickup basketball game. Okay, 752 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: and the next position do you play? I'm a one 753 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: or two? And you know, is Iggy allowed in your 754 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't play in the game. He just goes up 755 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: and shoots up there. Um Curry was up in there recently. 756 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: If you follow me on Instagram, you'll see the picture 757 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: I got with him talking to him about the NBA 758 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: action while moms came up for selfies. It was a 759 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: line basically, Curry guy, Um, I'm just gonna pretend he 760 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: didn't say that. So, you know, were the Monday pick 761 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: up basketball game and I'm like, oh, guys, I only 762 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: got time for one game today. I gotta go watch 763 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: a national championship. And all these guys are young, you know, 764 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: maybe from like twenty five to fifty fifty five, and 765 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: they're like, what game. I'm like, Clemson Alabama, the National Championship. 766 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, I'll get home for the second half. 767 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: Like the people out here just aren't that big on 768 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: it now, East Coast. I grew up on the East Coast, 769 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: and Ryan, I mean, like, football's huge, all these college 770 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: football playoff games, national championship, nobody's missing to im like 771 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: pick up basketball. But here's why we have not had 772 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: a representative on a national level in so long. And 773 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: we're and we're stuck because listen, there's USC there's Oregon 774 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: who who'll pop in and out, and they weren't what 775 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: beat each other up. We shot ourselves in the foot 776 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 1: our Oregon and not winning and then you know, Fresno 777 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: State like a long time ago, used to you know, 778 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: kind of be good. So we haven't had representation. That's 779 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: that's why it's tough on the West coast, and that's 780 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: why USC football was so popular. So when USC went away, 781 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, who do we cheer for you? 782 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: Even as a UCLA guy, it was it was just 783 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: nice to see a Pac ten at the time, a 784 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 1: Pac twelve representative in those big games. No Pac twelve 785 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: again this year. It is the first game is Oklahoma LSU. Uh, 786 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: the spread has been interesting? You gamble at all? Rhinholds No, 787 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: I don't interesting. Um, you gamble? I do, like actively 788 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: I do. I can see that from you because you 789 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: probably win. Don't you win? Don't you? Yeah? You had 790 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: a tough year in college football. I'm not gonna lie, um. 791 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: But anyways, so the spread opened it about nine or ten, 792 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: ballooned up to fourteen and a half two touchdowns. Now 793 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: it's back to thirteen and a half half. The big 794 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: injury is the LSU running back. UM numbers, he's number 795 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: twenty two. He reminds me of Doug Martin. I'm not 796 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: gonna try to pronounce his name O the last name. 797 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 1: Maybe Gavann'll call it up here, but he's got he's 798 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: got an injury, injury, and he's been massive out of 799 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: the backfield running the football. Um, I just I would 800 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: take Oklahoma here getting two touchdowns because LSU's never been 801 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: to the spot. Oklahoma has been here with Baker Mayfield, etc. 802 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,280 Speaker 1: And I think a late touchdown they lose by thirteen 803 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: they cover. The other game is the big one, Clemson 804 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: Ohio State. Any lean there? Clemson? Yeah, Clemson, Gavin, I 805 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: know you're on Clemson. I talked to Colin Cowherd a lot. 806 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: He is on Clemson as well. I haven't heard one 807 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: person say they're on Ohio State. And that's what scares 808 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: me because Ryan, you know this about gambling. If everybody 809 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: in the world is on one side, that means Vegas 810 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: needs the other side. Who wins more Joe Public or 811 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,240 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Las Vegas, the Bill Casitos of the desert. 812 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: So that scares me a little bit because I like 813 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: Clemson a lot. Here, Gavin, you gotta are you on Clemson? Yeah? Absolutely, 814 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: They've been amazing all seasons, especially covering major spreads twenty 815 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: plus points, thirty sometimes so that is Saturday. It's a good, 816 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: good two a couple good games on Saturday, UM and 817 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 1: then the NFL Sunday. I gotta say, listen, we're heading 818 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: into our number three here and we're gonna go jump 819 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: back to the NBA. So the NBA really pops on 820 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: Christmas Day? Right, you could argue that's the beginning of 821 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: the NBA. Yeah. I'm seeing reports now as we have 822 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: the TV's on here in the studio that Lebron may 823 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: miss some time after yesterday's game. How much should Lebron 824 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: load manage? Should we have him take a week off? 825 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: Should we just have him not do back to backs? 826 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: I need a plan going forward for Lebron, because listen, 827 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: if Lebron ain't gonna be healthy come May and June, 828 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: we know they're not beating the Clippers. Are you pro 829 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: load management for Lebron James? I am so so so 830 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: pro management Lebron James. And there are a million reasons why, 831 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: a million reasons. Why do you want you want to know? Oh, 832 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: next hour, we'll do that. Coming up next. Ryan Hollins 833 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: and myself, Jason McIntyre in for Dan Patrick and the Danettes. 834 00:46:21,040 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: Lebron buddy it's time to load. Manage five or energy 835 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: helps you get through your crazy on the go life. 836 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: And now it comes into great tropical flavors Strawberry Banana 837 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 1: and Tropical Burst. They're delicious and can transport you to 838 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: a tropical paradise. Try them both, then vote for your 839 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: favorite at five hwin dot com. You could be on 840 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: the go to someplace you actually want to go. Offer 841 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: End seven thirty one, twenty Terms ofpl seewww dot bigwin 842 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: dot com for details