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Speaker 1: Kind of a delayed addition today, but we actually had
Speaker 1: football out on the field, although the inside field for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys OTA practice, the one that the media gets
Speaker 1: to watch this week. They'll have three of those. That's
Speaker 1: two down, one to go on Thursday, and it is
Speaker 1: Mick Shots here in the swb C Mortgage Studio on
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Everson Walls and filling in capably for Bill
Speaker 1: Jones as Danny Serek with Danny Great. I think I've
Speaker 1: only been on with y'all virtually, so it's so great.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be here with you guys in
Speaker 1: person in the studio over a year here, over a
Speaker 1: year ago, we were zooming right right over a year ago.
Speaker 1: That year is gone. What do you realize this OTA
Speaker 1: practice we got to watch was the first one since
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Wow, because there was no OTA's last year right,
Speaker 1: you guys, and uh, I did you got your booze
Speaker 1: a little? What is this? Uh? Lacrosse? Will you a rower?
Speaker 1: Your crew? Your crew? Bar harbormain? What are you doing? Man?
Speaker 1: I was the last place I was when on vacation.
Speaker 1: Stop right there, this last place. Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 1: So we got a lot to disseminate here after watching
Speaker 1: a helmets and jersey and shorts practice. Danny, you were
Speaker 1: out there? Did you see a kay from up there
Speaker 1: in the press box? You know what? It seemed okay
Speaker 1: because I was looking for three players, looking for Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: I was looking for Tyrn Smith, and I was looking
Speaker 1: for Lyall Collins. Check check check right fine by me?
Speaker 1: Exactly absolutely, uh, and that's probably where we should start. Everson.
Speaker 1: Just I was not out there, but we want you
Speaker 1: to ask questions if we don't hit anything right, because
Speaker 1: you know it's it moved to this time of the day.
Speaker 1: I was napping, Sorry you were napping. Yeah. We hate
Speaker 1: to mess up your schedule, your busy schedule. So Danny
Speaker 1: is exactly right. Dak was out there moving as well
Speaker 1: as ever. Right, I didn't see anything. He was rolling
Speaker 1: out throwing the ball. He was fine watching him run.
Speaker 1: And the only thing is he had shoes on that
Speaker 1: were black. It's like you're slow yourself down, you know.
Speaker 1: Grambling we had the blacks all the time. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: how we had Yeah, but no, he was he was fine. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, Tyrn Smith and Lele Collins didn't do everything,
Speaker 1: but they did uh kind of the warm ups and
Speaker 1: then when they went into individuals, they kind of walked
Speaker 1: and watched, and then they did some of their rehab.
Speaker 1: Uh and then at the end when they did to
Speaker 1: walk through part of the practice. Uh, they were out there, right,
Speaker 1: They were out there. I think a little bit for
Speaker 1: the eleven on seven drills because they didn't have defensive
Speaker 1: linemen oka up against them. So we've been telling everybody
Speaker 1: that these guys are ready to go, and I think
Speaker 1: today was another indication on what is it like May
Speaker 1: twenty six six? Yes, uh, that fifth, That's what I said,
Speaker 1: and I followed ever since lead on that one can't
Speaker 1: see my watch made twenty fifth that you know, we
Speaker 1: got a long ways to go till trading camp starts
Speaker 1: to kind of the second third of what two thirds
Speaker 1: into July. So they should be ready to go. I
Speaker 1: think that's encouraging. Kind of been telling everybody that, but
Speaker 1: it was good to actually see those guys out there.
Speaker 1: I saw Danny earlier before you came around, and that's
Speaker 1: the first Those are the three people that I asked about,
Speaker 1: and it was Dak you want to know about You
Speaker 1: told me about Lyle Collins, and I want to know
Speaker 1: about Tyman Smith. Of course I didn't think they'd be
Speaker 1: doing much, but I wanted to see the movement. What
Speaker 1: kind of movement did they have, How did they look? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, back problems, neck problems, vander ess. We were
Speaker 1: wondering about how he did. She said, he looked good.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't worried about his legs. I was never
Speaker 1: worried about his legs, always about his neck right and
Speaker 1: and upper area there. So yeah, he looked fine. He
Speaker 1: looked fine. Jalen was out there in his new jersey
Speaker 1: number nine. Man, that's weird. That was weird to see.
Speaker 1: That was my college number. By the way, that was
Speaker 1: a great number number. Nine. You were nine number, but
Speaker 1: you were a cornerback. The single numbers a cool for cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: but for linebackers it makes him look small. That's what
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say I thought nine on Jalen
Speaker 1: looked like he was twenty pounds lighter, and sort of
Speaker 1: the same thing with Michael Parsons wearing eleven. I want
Speaker 1: to see fifty something on a line. So is that
Speaker 1: the reason that he changed to nine because MICA's having eleven?
Speaker 1: Is this happening? No, this is not happening. That was
Speaker 1: his number. I understand that. Are we taking this into
Speaker 1: oh the season, is what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a so Jalen's gonna have nine, nine, So but
Speaker 1: passons eleven? He will have eleven? Yes? Wow, do any
Speaker 1: other linebackers, because if you were called back in the
Speaker 1: day we were, we were you know, designated. They changed
Speaker 1: good number changed the rule. These guys are so lucky.
Speaker 1: Guess what my understanding is if you change numbers and
Speaker 1: you have jerseys out there still that haven't been sold,
Speaker 1: you have to pay for them. Wow. Now I think
Speaker 1: it's not fair. Yeah, they did well this year. That's
Speaker 1: not fair. You got why not don't the player? You
Speaker 1: have to pay for that because they printed your jerseys
Speaker 1: to sell and if they haven't sold yet, you got
Speaker 1: to buy them. That sounds like a you problem. I
Speaker 1: can well, whatever jersey I want now, I have to
Speaker 1: be behold into what you change numbers in the mid
Speaker 1: stream with your your product out there. Right, So when
Speaker 1: they talked about the hundreds of thousands of dollars, you
Speaker 1: got to pay it. That's exactly what they were talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're paying the inventory though, the inventory. That's what they're saying.
Speaker 1: Hang out is not cool at all. Unions got to
Speaker 1: step in on that. Come on, now, does that make
Speaker 1: any sense at all? Yeah? I think so. He thinks,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well here's my question. If you have a
Speaker 1: fifty four jersey, are you going to go out and
Speaker 1: buy number nine? Now? I mean if you're a fan, Well,
Speaker 1: now you're not the way he played last year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: now you keep it as now the way you keep
Speaker 1: it as memorabilia, well yea to me, it makes more
Speaker 1: valuable Smith's jersey. Right. Um, and he looked like he
Speaker 1: was moving. Well. The other thing I noticed about him
Speaker 1: that maybe I passed off last year and didn't or whatever,
Speaker 1: he seemed to be a little bit more engaged with
Speaker 1: his teammates. Did you notice that? Yeah, I mean he
Speaker 1: seemed to be more I won't say necessarily coaching, but
Speaker 1: more kind of like engaged and other people going through
Speaker 1: their jerals as well, not just going through the motion himself.
Speaker 1: And then you know it was kind of sitting there
Speaker 1: watching them, you know, hyping him up, tapping him up
Speaker 1: when they were done too, right, I noticed more more engaged. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd say with that, I hope it's because he has
Speaker 1: more knowledge in the defense itself, because that was a
Speaker 1: big excuse last year. He didn't really know what he
Speaker 1: was doing. Nobody knew what they were doing. So hopefully
Speaker 1: this year he's going with a little bit more knowledge
Speaker 1: and will help him play a little bit better. Because
Speaker 1: trust me, if you know what's going on, I mean,
Speaker 1: you truly have a grasp on your defense, and especially
Speaker 1: who you're studying, it's like the Sean Lee thing, you
Speaker 1: you can anticipate. He had no anticipatory skills last year
Speaker 1: at all. No, he didn't, and to me, that man,
Speaker 1: he wasn't prepared. So I think maybe when you see
Speaker 1: them draft a middle linebacker, uh, you say, okay, maybe
Speaker 1: I need to be engaged here. But those guys, they
Speaker 1: were switching in and out so much on you know,
Speaker 1: at one point Layton and and Jalen were out there
Speaker 1: at the same time, and another time it was Jalen
Speaker 1: and uh and neil Um out there. Remember they said
Speaker 1: they thought he'd started like that, he's starting, you know,
Speaker 1: you forget about those guys we signed up agents. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the draft and the first time they went out
Speaker 1: the safeties were the new safeties. Yea. By the way,
Speaker 1: it was jern Curse and uh um demonte. Because he
Speaker 1: was out there for a bit, Yeah, I was. That's
Speaker 1: something I just I didn't know. I guess where he
Speaker 1: stood in his rehab from that Achilles injury, which I
Speaker 1: think was October. But yeah, I saw him out there
Speaker 1: for a bit, which means he's doing much better than
Speaker 1: I am. So hey, I could have gone through that raptic. Okay,
Speaker 1: So how how do they look? I mean you had
Speaker 1: two guys came in with repair the Achilles and he
Speaker 1: was the year before. Okay, uh uh neil Uh. They
Speaker 1: look they looked fine. His his instincts are really good.
Speaker 1: He reacts to the play. They went one point when
Speaker 1: they were out there, they ran an end around to
Speaker 1: ceedee lamb and he snuffed it out immediately. So uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: his recognition is good. Um let's see who else? Uh?
Speaker 1: Really the only guys that the other guys that didn't
Speaker 1: do anything. Zeke wasn't there, so we'll see what happened there.
Speaker 1: I understand he was there yesterday. Zack Martin was out
Speaker 1: there early and then he didn't do anything when they
Speaker 1: started doing the other drills. But I've seen him out
Speaker 1: there doing his rehab and he's he's moving just fine.
Speaker 1: So so if you want to take if you want
Speaker 1: to take a temperature check on on you know, the
Speaker 1: injuries from last year and how they've developed this year
Speaker 1: and recovered. What are you what are we looking at it?
Speaker 1: We're looking at were we gave ourselves a percentage? And
Speaker 1: I'm really thinking divasively here. Forget all, I think everybody
Speaker 1: is the only other person on defense and didn't do
Speaker 1: anything was DeMarcus Lawrence, Okay, and I think they were
Speaker 1: being very careful with him all the things he had
Speaker 1: last year. Uh, you know, he was doing his rehab early.
Speaker 1: The walkthrough at the end, so it was the defensive
Speaker 1: walk through an offensive walkthrough separately. He was out there
Speaker 1: at left defensive end, Randy Gregor, who was at right
Speaker 1: defensive end Randy Yes, yes, And guys look like I mean,
Speaker 1: some of them looked like they lost weight. I don't
Speaker 1: know what your perception was. I mean, I think Jaalen
Speaker 1: looked small. I don't know if that was in the
Speaker 1: number or something like that. I don't know about losing weight.
Speaker 1: Like Lane just looked really fast to me, like he
Speaker 1: like looked like he was moving really well. Um, I
Speaker 1: think to some of the excited, he's ready to go.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you don't play much last year,
Speaker 1: He's ready he get in well, he missed the he
Speaker 1: got hurt in the first game. Miss four played maybe
Speaker 1: seven eight nine games, and then he got hurt at
Speaker 1: the end with the was it a calf a calf
Speaker 1: or I forgot what it was quad knee something, and
Speaker 1: he missed the last Cup several games. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought he was looking good. You know, when I've seen Zeke,
Speaker 1: he looks like he had lost some weight. Dak. They
Speaker 1: got him listed at two thirty five. He ain't close
Speaker 1: to thirty five. I guaranteed, yeah, at least ten pounds wider.
Speaker 1: I don't you know who looked small because he is.
Speaker 1: I don't let's I don't even know what they have
Speaker 1: him Nishan right, the rookie. I mean you can tell
Speaker 1: he is tall and lanky. But um, i'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Make sure I got his They've got him at one
Speaker 1: eighty three. Oh my goodness. He broke up another one
Speaker 1: eight three. Yes, that's how much he weighs. That's six four.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. But he looks like Danny. I'll take
Speaker 1: that as a compliment, thank you. But he did it.
Speaker 1: He almost an interception. Yeah, Um, he's got he's got
Speaker 1: good instincts. I just think I thought everything was and
Speaker 1: maybe since we're not used to getting to watch or practice,
Speaker 1: everything seemed to be moving really fast, and so maybe
Speaker 1: you know it was us, but I thought the speed
Speaker 1: of everything, I'll tell you. The other person that looked
Speaker 1: thin was Michael Gallup. He's already lean. I know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he could get leaner, but maybe he did.
Speaker 1: Uh or Marie Cooper didn't do anything today. He was there,
Speaker 1: but he didn't do anything. Or what's going on we'll
Speaker 1: find out. I think Mike's going to have his conference
Speaker 1: call and the other players team. Blake Jarwin was out there.
Speaker 1: He's not practicing. Blake coming back. You so you mentioned
Speaker 1: about the injuries. He's still rehabbing. So he was on
Speaker 1: the side doing his room one. Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 1: I think if he's ready to go, regardless of whatever
Speaker 1: tight ends were out there from Florida or whatever SEC
Speaker 1: team or whatever, I still think he's a very prominent
Speaker 1: figure in the offense. And one of the other guys
Speaker 1: out there or was out there late doing rehab, Mitch Hyatt,
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. He had injuries last year and I
Speaker 1: believe I think I've heard that he sprained a knee
Speaker 1: doing some conditioning, so he wasn't uh taking part. So
Speaker 1: these are just kind of off the top of my
Speaker 1: head the things that we we kind of saw out there. Um,
Speaker 1: I have to say Reggie Robinson, Yes, So they had
Speaker 1: a cornerback from tulsa fifth round pick last year fort
Speaker 1: fourth round. I was calling back in safety out there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they moved him to safety last year. Well, he
Speaker 1: was working with the cornerbacks so and kind of went
Speaker 1: out there with the third team. So when they kind
Speaker 1: of first went out there, it was Anthony Brown and
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs, then uh, Calvin Joseph and Nashan Wright and
Speaker 1: then um and then Reggie Robinson went out there with
Speaker 1: the with the third guys. Uh, who was the other place.
Speaker 1: I gotta say Reggie, Reggie being a corner. I know
Speaker 1: he played some safety, but changing to safe at a
Speaker 1: very young age, that's tough. Yeah, that's really tough. You
Speaker 1: used to playing cornerback, you know. The challengers kind of
Speaker 1: see the individual is one thing. Yeah, but if you're
Speaker 1: you come in they say, okay, we want to let's
Speaker 1: try you at safety in the pros. There are so
Speaker 1: many things that can come at you that you've never
Speaker 1: seen in college. In college, and let's face it, at
Speaker 1: the same place over and over again. Yeah, it's doesn't
Speaker 1: matter how well they run them. But if you're safety
Speaker 1: in the pros, you're going to see so many different things.
Speaker 1: They can bait you and set you up so easily.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm glad that he's back at corner.
Speaker 1: I bet he's more comfortable practice in a corner than
Speaker 1: having to worry about being a safety. So if anybody
Speaker 1: sees pictures. Two other notable number changes Donovan and Wilson
Speaker 1: the safety Oh my man, thirty seven okay he was
Speaker 1: thirty seven last year and six Oh my goodness, so
Speaker 1: lucky man, Wow, they were They just restricted us in
Speaker 1: so many different ways. I was born too soon, and
Speaker 1: that I get all you ought to hear a funny
Speaker 1: story about that. The board too soon. Uh. We used
Speaker 1: to do a kind of an well we called it
Speaker 1: old Timer's Lunch, uh Pat summer all was part of it,
Speaker 1: and so the stories were always just wonderful. So one
Speaker 1: day we're at lunch and uh we were talking about Ellis,
Speaker 1: um that he was kind of upset about his contract
Speaker 1: because remember when he, uh he signed that deal. He
Speaker 1: signed like a six or seven year deal. And this
Speaker 1: was before the explosion of signing bonuses and contracts, and
Speaker 1: he was kind of grumpy about it, right and complaining,
Speaker 1: and so Pat asked about, you know, what's going on,
Speaker 1: and so I kind of explained to him that, you know,
Speaker 1: he signed that contract so early and then later on
Speaker 1: everything changed, and um and I said, yeah, he kind
Speaker 1: of did it too soon, and and and summer all
Speaker 1: goes all came around. He was contemplating something totally different
Speaker 1: from what he was talking about how much he was
Speaker 1: getting the early days. Um. So yeah, but yeah, so
Speaker 1: he uh six, and then Cedric Wilson is one. So now, well,
Speaker 1: Donovan didn't have to worry about his jersey sales I'm
Speaker 1: sure he didn't have to worry at coming out of
Speaker 1: the pocket. Yeah, I'm sure that was nothing either of us.
Speaker 1: Those If you recall, if someone else had your jersey
Speaker 1: that you wanted, you still had to pay. You had
Speaker 1: to pay that individual something. I remember I went to
Speaker 1: the Giants, I wanted twenty four, and I think maybe
Speaker 1: that you know might well no one, no one was
Speaker 1: wearing nine. Yeah, so Jalen was cool because they weren't
Speaker 1: given away Romo, but eleven was Cedric Wilson, Levin was
Speaker 1: Wilson and here oh yeah he's won now, okay, so wow,
Speaker 1: so I don't want this Carson. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Parsons had to pay up because remember,
Speaker 1: because you're talking about paying inventory the question, you also
Speaker 1: have to pay the player. But I think you got
Speaker 1: forced to move then. Yeah, so he probably made some money.
Speaker 1: Remember when it came up in the press conference about oh,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a negotiation, Yeah, and Jerry said,
Speaker 1: what negotiations? OJ wouldn't even let me siff twenty four? O.
Speaker 1: J Anderson had twenty four. When I went to the Giant,
Speaker 1: you said, Cedric war one? Yeah, coee. So he went
Speaker 1: back to war because one, it's it's a it's a
Speaker 1: kicker all the time. Yeah, but it's the coolest number.
Speaker 1: And six. No one has worn six other than kickers
Speaker 1: in the history of the couch. Oh god, Zenda, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Zenas was that was the bounty Gate, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you remember number six with the Cowboys. They got Buddy
Speaker 1: Ryan putting the hit out on the kicker. Zen Day
Speaker 1: has the talk about being Penny trying to take out
Speaker 1: porson Day him. That's what thought, Why is this guy
Speaker 1: blocking me on the kickoff. I'm not gonna go down
Speaker 1: and make a tackle. I think Tim Cedar had six,
Speaker 1: So there was a couple of kickers that had Warren
Speaker 1: worn six. So yeah, so so number a little few
Speaker 1: number changes, a few position changes, and you know, just
Speaker 1: got to see some of the young guys with the
Speaker 1: veterans back out there. So all in all, that'll be
Speaker 1: next time we get to watch No. TA. I believe
Speaker 1: it's a week from Thursday because next week's Memorial Day Monday,
Speaker 1: so they practice I think Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and I
Speaker 1: think our day is Thursday, or maybe it's Tuesday, Thursday
Speaker 1: Friday next week. So anyway, the next one we get
Speaker 1: to watch is back then anything else you might have
Speaker 1: saw before we take a break. Yeah, this is not
Speaker 1: important whatsoever, but I just thought it was kind of fine.
Speaker 1: Kind Of early on in the practice, one of the
Speaker 1: equipment guys was run in with the cart and he
Speaker 1: was running too fast and it tipped over and all
Speaker 1: this ice just fell. And you want to take a
Speaker 1: guess who the first person was over there ran over
Speaker 1: there to help him clean it up. Michael Parsons, Really
Speaker 1: first person over shoveling ice back in as a bucket. Right.
Speaker 1: The kind of reminded me of Dak's rookie year. Remember
Speaker 1: they got the shot on the bench and he had
Speaker 1: something tape or something and he went to throw it
Speaker 1: in the garbage. This was on game day, like during
Speaker 1: the game, and he missed and he went over and
Speaker 1: picked it up and threw it back in the garbage.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to act like a yeah, that's who
Speaker 1: we act like your mom was watching, and every once
Speaker 1: in a while you had a guilt feeling, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because you know you're on camera. Yeah
Speaker 1: I can see that, Just go go pick it up. Well,
Speaker 1: all right, well we're just getting started here on mit
Speaker 1: shots on this Tuesday out at almost no Actually we're
Speaker 1: we're si look at their one thirty to one fifty.
Speaker 1: Well that's because I I don't prolong the person that's
Speaker 1: trying to run the thing, right, because when I'm not
Speaker 1: in charge, I never look at that clock, and I
Speaker 1: know you don't know. All right, Well, we'll return. Oh
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Speaker 1: filling in for Bill Jones, having some fun with the
Speaker 1: two of you because it's been a hot minute. Cowboys
Speaker 1: had their second OTA practice today. Media got to go
Speaker 1: and watch Mickey. Did you see any other new faces
Speaker 1: out there that caught your eye I did. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: ended up signed. They had an open roster spot on
Speaker 1: their ninety man roster. They had very silently last week
Speaker 1: released William Sweet. He was an offensive tackle they had
Speaker 1: picked up last year, so they had an open spot,
Speaker 1: and they had brought in two wide receivers to catch
Speaker 1: for Brett Hunley, the quarterback. When they worked him out
Speaker 1: on Friday, and this guy of the two, I was like,
Speaker 1: I thought they were using guys that were already on
Speaker 1: the roster, right, and then I realized, now their names
Speaker 1: are not on the back of the new jerseys. That's
Speaker 1: not fifteen and sixteen on the Cowboys roster. And they
Speaker 1: didn't sign and we can talk about Hunley, but they
Speaker 1: didn't sign Hunley. But this guy looked good. I mean
Speaker 1: he could run right well. It ended up it was
Speaker 1: Johnny Dixon, former wide receiver at Ohio State and he
Speaker 1: went undrafted in twenty nineteen. Houston had him into training
Speaker 1: camp and then they let him go, and then Arizona
Speaker 1: picked him up, and I believe he was on their
Speaker 1: practice squad the last two seasons. Didn't hasn't played in
Speaker 1: a game, but his senior year at Ohio State or
Speaker 1: actually the last two seasons when he had kneed troubles
Speaker 1: and ended up there five five years. So he must
Speaker 1: have got a medical red shirt because he only played
Speaker 1: like one game in twenty fifteen, one game in twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen or fourteen fifteen, whatever the years were. But in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen he played in twenty two games.
Speaker 1: He had sixty seven catches for one thousand, one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty six yards. He averaged seventeen point one to
Speaker 1: catch and six touchdowns, eight in each his junior and
Speaker 1: senior year. So he didn't get drafted, but I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys saw how well he ran routes out there
Speaker 1: and the speed he had four four one in the
Speaker 1: forty when he at the combine, so you know they
Speaker 1: had an extra spot, so bring him in. And he
Speaker 1: looks pretty good out there too, by the way. You know,
Speaker 1: it's so weird about this past season. I was teasing
Speaker 1: Danny about not seeing it for a whole year. It's
Speaker 1: almost like the strike year in eighty seven. You know,
Speaker 1: moves were delayed, you know, moves had to be made
Speaker 1: for different individuals, and if things didn't swing right for you,
Speaker 1: you go from being a potential player making a team
Speaker 1: to just being out of the league, right, you know,
Speaker 1: it just interrupts your continuity in whatever plans you may
Speaker 1: have had. And some guys were just unlucky enough to
Speaker 1: fall by the way, said Johnny, one of the lucky ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, great career. But you know when you start
Speaker 1: talking about going into the twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: and here talking about pandemic, it just kind of all
Speaker 1: gets a little convoluted, you know, and you start to wonder, Okay,
Speaker 1: well my next step was gonna be here when now
Speaker 1: all these variables have changed, and I don't know what
Speaker 1: step I'm gonna make next. So Dixon, this is sort
Speaker 1: of like going back to college. He was the white
Speaker 1: uniform number six, so uh so, yeah, everybody's got different numbers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I believe I got that right. I think he had. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had six sons. So anyway, he was out there,
Speaker 1: he looked good. He catches the ball well, so we'll
Speaker 1: see where that goes. So Hunley Brett Hunley played his
Speaker 1: college ball at UCLA. He was a fifth ri draft
Speaker 1: choice of Mike McCarthy in twenty fifteen. And then how's
Speaker 1: this for a little bit of irony. He made the
Speaker 1: team in Green Bay as the third quarterback. The second
Speaker 1: one was Scott Tolzie Cowboys now assistant offensive coach. Right
Speaker 1: Tozine left the next year to go to Buffalo, I
Speaker 1: believe it was, and so Hunley became the backup. He
Speaker 1: only played a couple of games that year. But the
Speaker 1: next year is when Aaron Rodgers suffered a broken collar bone,
Speaker 1: and so he had to come in. Everybody off on
Speaker 1: the way up the defensive end on the Vikings. I
Speaker 1: just thought it was a dirty hit. He just never happy.
Speaker 1: He he's happy now he's in Hawaii, right, Yeah, not
Speaker 1: at Ota right, good one. Uh. And so so when
Speaker 1: he broke his collarbone, then Hunley had to come in,
Speaker 1: you know, and he had been the backup, but he
Speaker 1: had played like two games or one game in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't pretty. They ended up going three and
Speaker 1: six with him at quarterback, and he struggled. I think
Speaker 1: his quarterback raiding ended up being seventy that year. He
Speaker 1: had more interceptions than touchdowns, and that ended up they
Speaker 1: ended up going seven and nine the Packers. That was
Speaker 1: Mike's first losing season since their second one in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: So they ended up trading him the next year to
Speaker 1: Arizona or no, to Seattle. Didn't play any games in Seattle,
Speaker 1: they let him go. Arizona picked him up. He played
Speaker 1: maybe three games one year, didn't play at all last year,
Speaker 1: so they brought him in to look at him. You know,
Speaker 1: they're kicking tires from that backup quarterback spot, and you
Speaker 1: know he throws the ball. Well, it's just a matter
Speaker 1: of you know, how well do you play the game?
Speaker 1: Do you recognize things? Because I think at UCLA, you
Speaker 1: guys tell me you might have. But he was more
Speaker 1: of a kind of past slash run quarterback. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, they had four quarterbacks out there today. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: that's my question for you about all of this, as
Speaker 1: we only saw one game each last year from Ben
Speaker 1: d Nucci and Garrett Gilbert. So now, right, and Danucci
Speaker 1: was a seventh round draft back Gilbert came in. But
Speaker 1: now that they're going to have an entire regular offseason,
Speaker 1: more regular at least the last year, right, and working
Speaker 1: with this coaching staff, how comfortable are you if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys decided to stick with the two of them as
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback, if they don't find anyone to bring in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I wrote about this in my column on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com on Friday, and I was basically like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what they got, but don't be surprised if
Speaker 1: they don't keep kicking tires and just kind of see
Speaker 1: what's out there. Can any of these guys come in
Speaker 1: and be better than any of those three because you're
Speaker 1: probably not going to take more than four quarterbacks to
Speaker 1: training camp, right, You're not gonna take five. You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't go through that. So uh so yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know, and so it got me thinking because I
Speaker 1: was thinking, because of five quarterbacks being drafted in the
Speaker 1: first round, that um, there would be some veteran guys
Speaker 1: getting released, right those teams can't keep all those quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna play that that the rookie immediately
Speaker 1: somebody's going, right because maybe because of salary cap reason.
Speaker 1: So I went back and looked and started looking at
Speaker 1: two teams that took first round picks. So Jacksonville they
Speaker 1: drafted Trevor Lawrence first, right the other three quarterbacks on
Speaker 1: their roster right now, or Gardner Minshew who started some games.
Speaker 1: You're thinking that's pretty good. That's probably their best. That's right.
Speaker 1: The other that's right, Chris was doing The Men Show.
Speaker 1: So there are other two quarterbacks are Guy's name, C. J.
Speaker 1: Bethard and Jake Lewton, neither once probably any better than
Speaker 1: the three the Cowboys have, right um. And then if
Speaker 1: I can read my notes here, the Jets take Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson right, he's probably their walk in starter. Well, they
Speaker 1: only have two other quarterbacks on the roster right now,
Speaker 1: James Morgan and Mike White. Oh. I don't think I
Speaker 1: realized he ended up there. That's where he was last year,
Speaker 1: so it's where you can disappear in New US, so
Speaker 1: that none of that gets you excited, right Um? I
Speaker 1: was thinking, Okay, I saw where Tampa Bay signed Blake
Speaker 1: Gabbert back. He was their backup quarterback last year Universe
Speaker 1: in Missouri the way Zou and they paid him one
Speaker 1: point five million, so I figured, okay, he's probably the backup.
Speaker 1: But they also had signed Ryan Griffin who they signed earlier,
Speaker 1: and then they drafted Kyle Trash. Okay, but I don't
Speaker 1: know that any of that gets you excited, unless they
Speaker 1: decide to get rid of Blaine gabbert Um the Bear.
Speaker 1: We get a backup. We gotta have a veteran backup.
Speaker 1: It can't be a young guy Dalton. There's an interesting twist.
Speaker 1: So the Bears trade up right to get Justin Fields. True,
Speaker 1: you think he's the starter? I think by week four? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: So here's here's here's there might be some irony here.
Speaker 1: The other two backups that they have. They signed Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton on a one year deal ten and a half million,
Speaker 1: and they still had Nick Foles. Yeah, so Nick foles
Speaker 1: cap hit is six point six million dollars and if
Speaker 1: they get rid of him, it's fourteen point three and
Speaker 1: dead money against the cat. Andy Dalton is counting ten
Speaker 1: point five million against the cat, but if they get
Speaker 1: rid of him, it's only five and a half million
Speaker 1: in dead money. So don't even, don't even. I sort
Speaker 1: of finished. I sort of finished my column and and
Speaker 1: Danny won't recognize this, but you remember that old Western
Speaker 1: movie Shane, Yes, of course, Shane, and the movie come
Speaker 1: Back Seat. Shane ended the movie where he kind of
Speaker 1: made friends with this little kid and they had Shane
Speaker 1: writing into the sun that and the little kids yelled,
Speaker 1: Shane come back and I'm going and he come back.
Speaker 1: He just might. I mean he wants to start, I know,
Speaker 1: but what if they decide he's not the starter. Well,
Speaker 1: the way that coach is up there, he's very concerned.
Speaker 1: If you talked about maybe game five, you said what
Speaker 1: you say for you say by week four, I'd be
Speaker 1: surprised because they're very he's very conservative head coach up there.
Speaker 1: So he may go. Yeah, I think I see him
Speaker 1: going with Folds before he would even go with Fields,
Speaker 1: I wonder. I mean, so, I mean you could qualify
Speaker 1: keeping I mean, Field's not going to cost you that
Speaker 1: much on the rookie contract, probably three and a half
Speaker 1: million against the cap. But can you keep Foles and Dulan?
Speaker 1: You can? Yeah? Yeah, and they say they can they can't.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Well, Folds is always that guy that's
Speaker 1: he's like the owl in the nest. He's always up there,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's always going to be there for you.
Speaker 1: So everyone's always calling Nick back. Now he's the one
Speaker 1: that's coming back all the time. Right, Yes, you think
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wants will be a backup, I'm no comment.
Speaker 1: So so here's the other thing. So I started looking
Speaker 1: at comparing who the Cowboys have as potential backups with
Speaker 1: what some other teams have, you know, and there's some
Speaker 1: teams that are they've got that kind of veteran guy.
Speaker 1: Like Arizona has Colt McCoy. Uh Atlanta signed How old
Speaker 1: is he's got to be up there now? Right? Go ahead?
Speaker 1: Uh Atlanta has aj McCarron. They signed him. He hadn't
Speaker 1: played that much, but he's played. Uh, Mitch Tubrisky's in
Speaker 1: in in Buffalo, case Keenum's in Cleveland. But like Denver,
Speaker 1: they brought in Teddy Bridge Rod signed him. They got
Speaker 1: Drew Locke and then the other two guys are Brett
Speaker 1: Rippon in case Cooks hey Man. They probably said that
Speaker 1: about Everson Walls too back in the age. Okay, is
Speaker 1: this guy y thirty four by the way, very good
Speaker 1: for so Deshaun Watson. We're not sure what's going on there?
Speaker 1: Uh the guy from Indie right? Um Taylor didn't they? Yes,
Speaker 1: they They've got Ryan Finley, David Mills, and they just
Speaker 1: signed Jeff Driscoll who worked out here. So I don't
Speaker 1: know that that gets you excited. Look at this what's
Speaker 1: behind Carson Wentz in Indianapolis that's weird. Jacob Eason, Jalen Morton,
Speaker 1: and they drafted Sam Ellinger. Wow, So not everybody has
Speaker 1: this backup quarterback that you go, Okay, you can probably
Speaker 1: save the day. The Rams they brought in Stafford, Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: the backups right now, John Wolford, Delvin Hodges and Bryce Perkins. Well,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, let's look at Detroit. Uh, and
Speaker 1: I've got that too, So behind goff right now, Tim
Speaker 1: Boyle and David Blow Boyle I've heard of, right, And
Speaker 1: the only reason I know of Blow he played at
Speaker 1: Purdue and the first game he started against misso yes,
Speaker 1: and he threw for five and he threw for five
Speaker 1: hundred and Missouri won the game. It's a miracle. So
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's like, you know, not everybody has, uh,
Speaker 1: the Giants right now, Daniel Jones, right, the backups Mike
Speaker 1: Glennon and Clayton Thorson who was here on the practice
Speaker 1: squise yes and the year and they ended up releasing him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's not a lot of these guys out
Speaker 1: there that you know, the Redskins, Okay, Ryan Fitzpatrick after that,
Speaker 1: it's Taylor Heineke, Kyle Allen and Steve even Montez. It's
Speaker 1: the football team. Oh sorry, oh slap, but um heineke
Speaker 1: he he played well in the playoff game and that
Speaker 1: was the only game he really played, right, that was
Speaker 1: the playoff game. Played well against US, didn't he? Yes?
Speaker 1: He yeah, you're right, he played very well against US.
Speaker 1: They beat us. And somebody might say, well, Blaton Gabbert
Speaker 1: played well against US. We happened to win, but you
Speaker 1: know so. So anyway, my point is with these backup
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that there's just there's not enough quarterbacks out there.
Speaker 1: I say, not in the veteran quarters out there, some
Speaker 1: young guys. And if you go with the veterans, well
Speaker 1: I say veteran, they might be three year veterans who
Speaker 1: never touched the field since they got out of college. Right,
Speaker 1: That is not a good backup to me. If I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with a backup. Of course, Andy Dalton would
Speaker 1: be great. That was the best backup you can have
Speaker 1: at that point. Folds or somebody like that who has
Speaker 1: pretty much used up all of his backup material. Now
Speaker 1: he's not the guy that he was when they won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I don't even think I feel comfortable
Speaker 1: with him coming here. See. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: If any of these guys that have a little experience
Speaker 1: come available, there's a whole bunch of other teams that
Speaker 1: probably would say, too, hey, how about it. We got
Speaker 1: a bunch of rookies back here backing us up as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah they want so it's not like a slam dunker.
Speaker 1: You know that these guys would just say, Okay, you
Speaker 1: fail for two million dollars on a one year deal,
Speaker 1: I'll come play for you. So it'd be nice if
Speaker 1: Hunley would have gotten a lot more experience as a player,
Speaker 1: because he has just deteriorated as an athlete. So he
Speaker 1: ended up with He's so where did I say? Came
Speaker 1: out in twenty fifteen, right, and you know, Mike knows him.
Speaker 1: He's a decent athlete coming out. He played seventeen games
Speaker 1: in the NFL, eleven of those in the twenty seventeen season.
Speaker 1: So uh and those were the meaningful games. Nine touchdowns,
Speaker 1: twelve interceptions, five point eight in attempt. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: scares me right there, took twenty nine sacks and got
Speaker 1: a seventy point six quarterback rating. You would think that
Speaker 1: they could kind of you know, dumb it down a
Speaker 1: little bit for the young young kid coming in. He's
Speaker 1: not even Rodgers. Yeah, he's still trying to learn. A
Speaker 1: pretty good arm. Rodgers got hurt. He had a good arm,
Speaker 1: and he was a nice athlete. Yeah, I mean, you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't do well in the Pac twelve by just
Speaker 1: being a bum. Yeah, he was pretty good player. But
Speaker 1: I think he just just eroded from lack of play.
Speaker 1: And you know here that can happen. And you guys
Speaker 1: tell me, but my philosophy on backup quarterbacks like young
Speaker 1: guys like that, once the season starts, they don't get
Speaker 1: any better. You can't learn, right, there's no more. You
Speaker 1: don't really get the opportunity to no learning process anymore.
Speaker 1: Start against all the snaps and you're you're the dummy
Speaker 1: square quarterback. Now you know, you're you're just doing the
Speaker 1: Washington stuff, You're doing the Cowboys stuff. You know, you're
Speaker 1: Ohmo this week or you're you know, Tom Brady this week.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that doesn't help you learn at all.
Speaker 1: In high school, we called it the nut squad. We
Speaker 1: call it dummy dummy squad. How politically incorrectly are you, guys?
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, so so yeah, so you asked about the
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I say, you keep your eyes open and
Speaker 1: maybe something comes available. I think you just at that
Speaker 1: point you just kind of have to get lucky, right,
Speaker 1: Chips fall where they may. I don't know that anyone
Speaker 1: out there is probably better than Garrett Gilbert at this point, right.
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to say. We haven't seen a
Speaker 1: lot of him, but you think he's been around in
Speaker 1: the league enough, a couple of years, another full year
Speaker 1: under his belt here with this coaching staff, you'd like
Speaker 1: to think, you know, he'd be fine if you need him.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of my initial thought with all this is like, oh,
Speaker 1: Dak's back, Lyell and Tyrant back, and then it's like,
Speaker 1: hold up, do you not remember what happened last year?
Speaker 1: How important backup dogs will? My dogs knew we got
Speaker 1: hurt and it was so howling during the game, and
Speaker 1: it was sobering too right to say, okay, we gotta
Speaker 1: go with the back. And that's what she's saying, That's
Speaker 1: what Danny says. It's very you can you can be
Speaker 1: sobered up real quickly in this situation, and that's what
Speaker 1: bothers me about it. I am just very surprised at
Speaker 1: the lack of opportunities that we have out there as
Speaker 1: far as backup veterans and with what we have, you know,
Speaker 1: and I know these are nice young man, they're the backup,
Speaker 1: but I just don't think they're ready at all. I
Speaker 1: thought the Nucci was well, think about it, clearly physically
Speaker 1: out match today. I worry for his physical health because
Speaker 1: he's so small about Yesterday and today were his first
Speaker 1: two OTA practices of his career. So you asked the
Speaker 1: guy to come in as a seventh round draft choice.
Speaker 1: The hind though, and that ended up playing at FCS school, right,
Speaker 1: James Madison, And he gets no OTAs, no rookie mini camp,
Speaker 1: no veteran mini camp, he gets no preseason games, got
Speaker 1: training camp. But everybody was in a rush to get
Speaker 1: everything ready. I'm sure he had maybe two what Connor
Speaker 1: Williams and probably Zack Martin was still out there that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then that's probably the worst thing about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can put all that together, right, but not having
Speaker 1: all of your offensive linement in that game, a bunch
Speaker 1: of new guys coming in, It's not like it's not
Speaker 1: like those guys that got hurt a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and we had some guys that we could fill in
Speaker 1: and they got their experience, saying okay, we feel a
Speaker 1: little bit better with them. They're settled in not not
Speaker 1: this time. Yeah, they were hurt like that week. Do
Speaker 1: you know how fast that game must have looked to
Speaker 1: him when he got in there. It was like rush
Speaker 1: hour and hell But but the ushers were his offensive linement.
Speaker 1: I here this way, sir, you can you can just
Speaker 1: come on. So it wasn't a fairer assessment. I'll be
Speaker 1: interested to see what happens through an offseason. Uh gets
Speaker 1: a chance to maybe play some preseason games and get
Speaker 1: a better read on him, because when we saw him
Speaker 1: and when I finally got to see him in practice,
Speaker 1: it's like he was very accurate and he had some
Speaker 1: zip on the ball. But you're right, he's very slight.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, we'll see where um, we'll see where
Speaker 1: that one goes. But for now, keep looking. But in
Speaker 1: the meantime, you know, the Cowboys got so lucky in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, right, you lose Tony Romo, you lose Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore and the guy that some people couldn't figure out
Speaker 1: his talent dat Prescott because they thought that he should
Speaker 1: have been the fourth guy, ends up starting sixteen games
Speaker 1: for you and you win. I mean it's a minor miracle,
Speaker 1: maybe a major miracle that they were able to survive
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Speaker 1: Eight eight, eight, eight, five, five two two nine seven.
Speaker 1: Cowboys had Day two of OTAs today. Media was out there,
Speaker 1: including Mickey. One rookie we haven't really talked about so far,
Speaker 1: linebacker jibbra Cox. How was he looking out there too today? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He um so. I think it was maybe at one
Speaker 1: when they were they were rotating everybody in and out
Speaker 1: so much. But at one point early when they were
Speaker 1: in seven on seven, the first kind of team stuff
Speaker 1: they did, he went out there with Michael Parsons, So
Speaker 1: they kept those two guys together. Michael was in the
Speaker 1: middle and he was on the week side. And again
Speaker 1: he you know, he looks good in coverage. I think
Speaker 1: he moves awfully well. Yeah, a nice first team, second
Speaker 1: team thing going on. Yeah, I think linebacker for a
Speaker 1: position that I was somewhat concerned about. Everybody was yeah,
Speaker 1: I think when you do that. And I'll tell you
Speaker 1: the other guy that got a lot of snaps in
Speaker 1: the middle. And I want to make sure I say
Speaker 1: his name right because I always transpose, transpose it. Francis
Speaker 1: Bernard could be Bernard Francis, right, so I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 1: I'll mess you guys. But they had him him working
Speaker 1: in the middle too, and and and he looked like
Speaker 1: he was taking like when he was calling out signals
Speaker 1: and getting guys lined up. So I thought he was
Speaker 1: interesting last year. And um, and he was a good
Speaker 1: special teams player. So they're gonna need some guys to
Speaker 1: step on step up on special teams from that linebacker spot. Oh,
Speaker 1: they have what we have what on the roster? Ten?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, guess ten linebackers. You're way high, probably seven
Speaker 1: or eight, eight, way high. A high traumatic you know
Speaker 1: when they who I could just kind of forget about
Speaker 1: just because he was hurt and then didn't really see
Speaker 1: him last year as Luke Gaffer. Yes, yes, and he's back.
Speaker 1: So one of your injured guys, he was back out there.
Speaker 1: And so the other linebackers that we didn't mention was
Speaker 1: a zur Kamara. Um was he an opt out guy
Speaker 1: last year or they they picked him up as a
Speaker 1: as an early free agent? Uh? Yeah, and Luke Gifford,
Speaker 1: Francis Bernard. So you know that somebody's gonna have to
Speaker 1: step up for the special teams guys justin March. That's
Speaker 1: what the special team guy special Joe Thomas. Yeah, good
Speaker 1: Joe still there? No, No, okay, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: we talked about that. Pay them a little bit of money.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that the Cowboys actually wanted them back.
Speaker 1: I guess so we want we we are heavy linebackers.
Speaker 1: That's probably the position that we have the most. And
Speaker 1: you want to keep you would love to keep for sure,
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep seven, but you'd love to keep eight
Speaker 1: to say, okay, special teams or if or if somebody
Speaker 1: makes you keep nine. Right, Um, but yeah, uh about
Speaker 1: defensive backs. I mean, that's got to be our second
Speaker 1: most populated position, maybe the most. So we're talking to Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how. I don't know how that
Speaker 1: makes me feel more comfortable by any means. We need them.
Speaker 1: This is this was it was a matter. It was
Speaker 1: about need. We had to address it. Yeah, but skill,
Speaker 1: you know, quality over quantity. Right, there's eighteen guys you
Speaker 1: are lying, bro, eighteen dB that's that last group down there. Wow,
Speaker 1: we are just no respect for dB. Is eighteen not enough?
Speaker 1: They just bring them in? Just bring guys Inah, man,
Speaker 1: it was twenty five wikie dbs. I told you in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one. So you know, I didn't even get
Speaker 1: through the drill. Sometimes I didn't even get to get
Speaker 1: a chance to participate in the drill because the line
Speaker 1: was so long. Yeah, but you know what, back then,
Speaker 1: there was no limit on how many guys they could do.
Speaker 1: What are you saying about right now? You got eighteen
Speaker 1: out of nineteen? Come on, that is a lot. Well
Speaker 1: that's good. So how Kevin Joseph looked you throw? You
Speaker 1: throw more solutions at the problem, you know. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: how you do it and something. That's how you do
Speaker 1: it something that's right. So Joseph Kevin dood he looks
Speaker 1: like um still bouncing around out there. Yeah, like John
Speaker 1: Morant or somebody. He didn't look like he was lost. Which,
Speaker 1: by the way, if you were guarding Job Morant, would
Speaker 1: you let him drive into the lane? No way? And
Speaker 1: they kept letting him do No, he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: trick me. Yeah, he's threes. He was doing that a
Speaker 1: little bit, but he's gonna have to show me more
Speaker 1: than one game. We digressed this, but that's okay. All right.
Speaker 1: We got a call him. He speaking of the Memphis Grilis. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now we've got a caller from Nashville. Bob, Hey, Bob,
Speaker 1: how you doing great? How are y'all? We're good? He
Speaker 1: real quick. We talk about offense and defense. But I
Speaker 1: thought our special teams was much better last year. What
Speaker 1: are you all thoughts about special teams going forward this
Speaker 1: year with John Fossil? Oh? Thanks, I'll just hang up
Speaker 1: and listen. That's a good question, because John knew he
Speaker 1: had a good special teams. Yeah, but he overplayed his
Speaker 1: hands sometimes. He was pretty risky, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Way risk didn't he didn't you go fake punt. Are
Speaker 1: you like thinking of the Washington game or was it
Speaker 1: Washington when they go fake punt? Yeah, I thought twenty
Speaker 1: four yard Yeah, but he didn't know what he had
Speaker 1: and he was so desperate to turn things away up
Speaker 1: from the previous year because twenty nineteen. But you know what,
Speaker 1: when you go back and look at that, the call
Speaker 1: might have been good. The execution executed. Yeah, execution, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. Everything can work with good execution. But the
Speaker 1: but analytics don't tell you to run certain rights at
Speaker 1: certain times, it just doesn't work. Their percentages of of
Speaker 1: of working aren't right, or they don't figure in the downside,
Speaker 1: like because most coaches, you know this, they coach from
Speaker 1: what if it doesn't work right, that's what you should do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not oh, if it works liquid, we're gonna have. But
Speaker 1: looking at the number of special teams improved a lot
Speaker 1: last year the year before. And I mean, I think
Speaker 1: he's fun even today at practice when players, you know,
Speaker 1: stretching and warming about the beginning he had the football
Speaker 1: in the middle field, who's only just throwing it up
Speaker 1: and catching it, you know, having finally, he brings so
Speaker 1: much energy and talking to the players. Last year, I mean,
Speaker 1: they loved playing for Really, he's a good coach. He
Speaker 1: really is a good Yeah. He created an enthusiasm there
Speaker 1: so well, he knew we needed it. Yeah, he knew
Speaker 1: we needed it. You know, those Gambles we were flailing
Speaker 1: offensively and even flailing in every way. And to answer
Speaker 1: the guy's question, I think that they've upgraded the linebacker
Speaker 1: spot so that immediately upgrade special teams and to go
Speaker 1: with the improvement from last year. As he said, right, No,
Speaker 1: that's that's a good point. I think we're gonna be well.
Speaker 1: Especially Hey, guys, how many times have I said it.
Speaker 1: I get tired of us trying to depend on just
Speaker 1: offense defense. All the good teams I've been on. You
Speaker 1: have every weapon available. The Cowboys had every weapon available.
Speaker 1: Special teams was important the practice itself. Sometime, Tom LANDI
Speaker 1: would come see it in the practice in the meeting
Speaker 1: room special teams head coaches in the Yeah. I guess
Speaker 1: the fact that he was a punter that kind of helps.
Speaker 1: That he could kick the ball, so he understands the
Speaker 1: importance of it. We're going to need everybody this year,
Speaker 1: just like we needed everybody and every facet of the
Speaker 1: game last year. We're gonna need it. That's Fossil's philosophy.
Speaker 1: He said that from day one joining the staff, he
Speaker 1: wants his players to know that special teams can make
Speaker 1: a difference and that you know, they are important. They
Speaker 1: can play a role. And we saw that a couple
Speaker 1: of times last year. Special write the Watermelon Kicks Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I mean, god, I forgot about the watermelon kick. That
Speaker 1: was very cool. Dan Quinn hasn't forgot about it. I
Speaker 1: don't think he thought it was that cool. Did you
Speaker 1: hear his story? No, the first day he walked into
Speaker 1: the building, you know, whatever screen he went by, they
Speaker 1: were replaying stuff and he said, I walk in and
Speaker 1: it's like, ah, no way, the watermelon kick. Kids watching
Speaker 1: it get he goes. I can't even run away from it.
Speaker 1: And let's face it, guys, any great play is not
Speaker 1: just made by great people. Sometimes some food screwed up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just the way it goes. Some food screwed up.
Speaker 1: That Falcon player was right there. Yeah, he could test
Speaker 1: the ball at anytime. And I don't know if he
Speaker 1: didn't know that he could get it. The rules, so
Speaker 1: they've they changed the rule on how to line up
Speaker 1: now for the for the on side kick because of
Speaker 1: the watermelon. I don't know if it was because of
Speaker 1: the watermelon, but you can't, um, you can't overload one side.
Speaker 1: It's got to be five. And I know, you know,
Speaker 1: it took the teeth out of what they were trying
Speaker 1: to do, is is reduced the percentages of the offensive
Speaker 1: team recovering the ball. I mean the defense of the
Speaker 1: defense kicking team, the defensive team they were they were
Speaker 1: just hoping that maybe the offensive team can recover more
Speaker 1: so from a defensive standpoint. Uh. Well, they they took
Speaker 1: away it's affectiveness initially, and now they're trying to bring
Speaker 1: it back, right, so they sort of I think what
Speaker 1: they what they took away was kind of the pooch
Speaker 1: kick up in the air, like everybody has to be up.
Speaker 1: You can't have and you can't get running start. Yeah yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so anyway, but yeah, I think, you know, and they've
Speaker 1: they've got some young guys. The receiver they drafted, Semi Fujoco,
Speaker 1: he basically pointed out, right, I can play special teams, right,
Speaker 1: I make some tackles. Uh. And I think he blocked
Speaker 1: a kick at Stanford, if I remember, that's all he
Speaker 1: is I think he may have started that before he
Speaker 1: ended up with a wide receiver. But he he's got
Speaker 1: something too. I saw him today caught one pause on
Speaker 1: the on the move and uh, he's got good hands.
Speaker 1: So this will be I think there'll be some competition
Speaker 1: at that wide receiver spot for four and five and
Speaker 1: maybe to convince him to keep six. Let's let's be real, guys,
Speaker 1: four and five they are instrumental on third downs for us,
Speaker 1: especially as many times as we fell behind or the
Speaker 1: top guys got hurt. Yes, yeah, and we had we
Speaker 1: had some Cedric Wilson coming in and doing the great keep.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of practice because Amori Cooper wasn't practicing.
Speaker 1: It was Sedrick Wilson that was out there. He looked good. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think he dropped the house. Looked good. I
Speaker 1: think he's got something. Just don't ask him to throw
Speaker 1: the ball. Hey, you've never a touchdown pass? Well, you
Speaker 1: should have thrown another out. I do have a question,
Speaker 1: super early on from all of this, now that you've
Speaker 1: you know, watched a practice, you know they're back practicing,
Speaker 1: which position group are you most excited to see competition? Wise?
Speaker 1: Kind of pan out the next couple of months. Mhmm,
Speaker 1: you've got eighteen dbs. I think I think the secondary
Speaker 1: right right? And and I agree, like do they need
Speaker 1: Kean O'Neill to play linebacker or is he a safety? Um?
Speaker 1: You know what will those other safeties do? Uh? Curse
Speaker 1: and Wilson just came and Demante? Uh why can't I
Speaker 1: keep remember that guy? Zaze Curse and Kazi? All right?
Speaker 1: I got it now? Uh Hey, I'm interested to see
Speaker 1: what happens there because there's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: log job jam. And then the other thing is who's
Speaker 1: my backup swing tackle? Because I don't think we know
Speaker 1: I know they they they signed tie In, the seci
Speaker 1: veteran guy who has started games. Uh, lastly Washington by
Speaker 1: the way. Um, but now, can Tarren Steel step up
Speaker 1: up and like do something? I noticed Brandon Knight they
Speaker 1: actually had him at guard, uh when Zack Martin wasn't
Speaker 1: out there. Uh so can can one of those three
Speaker 1: guys step up and say I got this? Or might
Speaker 1: Josh Ball the rookie they drafted in the second fourth round, Uh,
Speaker 1: step up and say hey, I can do this. But
Speaker 1: I think that's a position not only backup quarterback, but
Speaker 1: I think that's a position. Uh, that'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see who's your center. Well, they they had a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys with their hand on the ball before practice started.
Speaker 1: Uh it was because Beadish was snapping elsewhere. So the
Speaker 1: rookie that they signed, uh Fijoko Farneyac. How you say it,
Speaker 1: Farney acc, Farney Oak, Matt Farney Oak. Yeah, so he's
Speaker 1: going to be a center. He was he was, he
Speaker 1: was a guard, but they moved him to center. Uh,
Speaker 1: everybody from Nebraska on offense, Connor and I'm Connor McGovern.
Speaker 1: I'm signing anybody from a Nebraska on the offensive line,
Speaker 1: it's good with you. Yeah. Connor McGovern was doing some
Speaker 1: pre snaps, as was Connor Williams. Uh So yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: see how that one plays out. Right now, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the rookie can do, but I would think
Speaker 1: they've got to work Connor McGovern there behind Beadish and
Speaker 1: then see how it how it plays out. I think
Speaker 1: they don't want to have to use more salary cap
Speaker 1: money to bring back Joe Looney question. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that that that might be the because no one has
Speaker 1: signed them yet, so that might be the emergency thing there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, backup center, backup offensive tackle, backup quarterback. But
Speaker 1: you know what, we're not so much worried as starting spots.
Speaker 1: It's basically what you thought from last year. So yeah,
Speaker 1: after last year's fiasco went down, now you're backup, so
Speaker 1: extremely important. Yeah, realized that. Yeah, absolutely, So I think
Speaker 1: those are a couple of the things that we've got
Speaker 1: to and we won't get a chance to answer him
Speaker 1: in OTAs because there's no pads on. So we're going
Speaker 1: to have to wait till training camp. And you know,
Speaker 1: and I know we always sit here and go, okay,
Speaker 1: good training camp started, Now we can figure this out.
Speaker 1: And then the first three days of training camp. That's
Speaker 1: basically ot A, right, I think too. Another spot is
Speaker 1: interior defensive line. Tristan Hill was out there, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't practicing. He was doing like strength conditioning stuff. He'll
Speaker 1: be ready, you think. I mean he started because he
Speaker 1: tore his ACL in the fourth or fifth same as
Speaker 1: same as Dack fifth game, right week five, So I
Speaker 1: see him doing his rehab by the kid and he's
Speaker 1: running by the kid. That was unfair. We talked about
Speaker 1: it because he got hurt. He got hurt the same
Speaker 1: week and his dad. We thought that was so unfair.
Speaker 1: He didn't get all the glory. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I took all the all the you know what. It
Speaker 1: reminds me of back in when Emmett Smith broke while
Speaker 1: the Peyton's record, Uh, Darren Woodson broke the Cowboys single
Speaker 1: season tackle record really or career record, I can't remember
Speaker 1: which it was. And it's like, yeah it was career okay,
Speaker 1: thanks Chris. And it was like bad day I've never
Speaker 1: heard till today. Yeah, bad game to do it. And
Speaker 1: that was always our joke when we would fly and
Speaker 1: the weather would get real bad, you know, and it's like,
Speaker 1: if this thing goes down, the bast last paragraph also
Speaker 1: perishing in the crash, you're you're gonna be called staff staff. No,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a big called same thing. We got
Speaker 1: called in when we had the bus crash and they
Speaker 1: pointed out that there was four people from the Cowboys
Speaker 1: organization in the bus, but there was no coaches, there
Speaker 1: was no players, there was no front office people. It
Speaker 1: was non essential. No. I said, you know what if
Speaker 1: my mother will be missed there and there no one
Speaker 1: that would be missed y're okay, guys, Well there, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We're good. And the and the and the
Speaker 1: and the kind of saddest, the funniest part, and it
Speaker 1: was funny. So this happened to like one thirty in
Speaker 1: the afternoon, but we were on our way back to
Speaker 1: training camp that night. We figured we didn't want to
Speaker 1: stay in a hotel, and so we found the guy
Speaker 1: that was the driver that was taking us to Vegas
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, I can get you the ox
Speaker 1: Nard And it's like, we'll be better off showing up
Speaker 1: at four in the morning than staying in a hotel
Speaker 1: and to have to take all our stuff out and
Speaker 1: fly and then somebody's got to come and get us.
Speaker 1: So it was about midnight or one o'clock, and we
Speaker 1: started looking to see how people wrote about it and
Speaker 1: the different apiece stories, and one of them they identified
Speaker 1: identified Emery the bus driver. They identified me because I
Speaker 1: had been blogging or tweeting whatever we were doing about it,
Speaker 1: so they knew my name. And then the other two
Speaker 1: were a videographer and Rowdy Wow. Rowdy. Rowdy was on it.
Speaker 1: Rowdy was on the trap and I read it looks
Speaker 1: like so I read it and I looked at Foster, right,
Speaker 1: he was rowdy, and I said, it's a damn good
Speaker 1: thing that Rowdy didn't kill, because I said, a damn
Speaker 1: good thing you didn't die, because then they would have
Speaker 1: had to get another another mascot, because Rowdy would have
Speaker 1: been killed. And he looked and he goes, I'm a person,
Speaker 1: I got a name. I'm not a character. Yeah, as
Speaker 1: you go walking around with a soul on. It was
Speaker 1: it was a sign of great reporting that was going on.
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, our poor business, our poor business.
Speaker 1: I think we went over time, didn't we? Did we?
Speaker 1: All right? That's uncle. See Scott get my money, goes Scott. Danny,
Speaker 1: and I will go, oh, we missed lunch, didn't we?
Speaker 1: Um not me? Oh you thought ahead. I thought I had.
Speaker 1: I dipped out the last like three or four minutes
Speaker 1: of practice. Well you got here stairs to the room. Man,
Speaker 1: that's good. That's a good food of this bags. We
Speaker 1: should have got it here a couple of years before.
Speaker 1: And think about that. I thought we were going to
Speaker 1: be done at like one o'clock. I didn't know we
Speaker 1: were going to go that long. So well then we
Speaker 1: better go. One of us is hungry. All right, Danny,
Speaker 1: thanks for sitting in. Thanks and you might and you
Speaker 1: might have to make another appearance if you can next Tuesday,
Speaker 1: because I'm not going to be here. I'll see if
Speaker 1: I compen see if you got time in your busy schedule.
Speaker 1: You'll be back. And uh Bill will be back. He
Speaker 1: had golf duty the Colonials. This tough work in for
Speaker 1: I mean, in this rain kind of I's doing sitting there.
Speaker 1: It was an interview. He not coming ready. All right,
Speaker 1: that's it for mix shots on this Tuesday. After that
Speaker 1: OTA practice and we'll see you guys next week. Go Cowboys.
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