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Speaker 1: You are entering the Freedom Hunt. Buck is back from

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Speaker 1: travels with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo abroad in Latin America.

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Speaker 1: I have an exclusive interview with the Secretary of State tonight.

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Speaker 1: Bus Still a bunch of fights at home on the

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Speaker 1: political front. We'll get into that and owe so much

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Speaker 1: more coming up on the Buck Sexton Show. This is

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show where the mission where mission is

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Speaker 1: to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Mag no

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Speaker 1: mistake American. You're a great American. Again, the Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: Show begins. He's a great guy. Now, Hey, everybody, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Buck Sexton Show. I missed you all. I

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Speaker 1: Although I was happy to hear that my friends Raheem

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Speaker 1: Kassam and Ben Weingarten did did a great job as

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Speaker 1: they always do, guest hosting here in the Freedom hut Man.

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Speaker 1: It was quite a trip, so I wanted to, if

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Speaker 1: you would indulge me, give you a full rundown. I

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Speaker 1: because there was there was a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: biggest stories and you know, oh, my gosh, Mueller's testifying

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Speaker 1: But I'm also a former CIA analyst, And so that's

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Speaker 1: is on the people, on the government of this country,

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Speaker 1: that that we would have people fleeing here. No one's

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Speaker 1: about to invade El Salvador. It's not going through a famine.

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Speaker 1: It didn't just get hit by an earthquake. They just

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Speaker 1: don't want to be there because there's no hope, there's

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Speaker 1: no future in being there, and that's on them. It

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Speaker 1: was just so interesting. Now you could say, Buck, he's

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Speaker 1: saying what he thinks Pompeo wants to hear. Oh, that's

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Speaker 1: not really what they think. All I'm telling you is

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Speaker 1: that the expectations in in that room were for this

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Speaker 1: guy to say, we really need to get that foreign

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Speaker 1: aid back. Remember Trump said no more foreign aid for

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Speaker 1: some of these countries cut off hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: In fourgn eight, President Boukeley stood up of El Salvador

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Speaker 1: and said, they've given us billions of dollars of aid

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Speaker 1: over decades. What has it done for this country? The

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Speaker 1: room was shocked. This isn't what we're here. This isn't

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Speaker 1: what Latin American leaders are supposed to say. They're supposed

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Speaker 1: to say the Yankees ruined our country. They're supposed to say, Oh,

447
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Speaker 1: it's imperialist America, that's why we have all these problems.

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Speaker 1: We're not supposed to hear from a leader of a

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Speaker 1: Latin American nation that says, you know, this is on us, guys,

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Speaker 1: and they want to help us solve the problems. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we should stop pretending they the United States are the problem.

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Speaker 1: This guy was a breath of fresh air. It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: The room was shocked. I'm there with you reporters the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post and the Voice of America, and you know

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Speaker 1: there's like AP and a John's Franz Press and at

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Speaker 1: all these different I don't even know who's in the

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Speaker 1: room other than the first couple in here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's all these different reports, all and local press in

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Speaker 1: there and they're all, what does this guy say? A

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Speaker 1: country can't blame itself for its own bad decisions. We

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Speaker 1: have Americans to blame instead. It was such a shift

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Speaker 1: in thinking. Now on the foreign policy side of this administration.

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Speaker 1: You often don't hear this, but there has been a

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Speaker 1: willingness with this president who I know the media and

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Speaker 1: especially the international media, the foreign pole focused media, I

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Speaker 1: know that they think that this president is boorish and

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Speaker 1: unrefined and incapable of thinking strategically. Look at the results, though,

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Speaker 1: There's been this whole change and outlook among a host

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Speaker 1: of Latin American countries toward more positive and closer relations

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Speaker 1: with the United States. And part of it is that

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Speaker 1: we have a president who says, now, you know what,

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Speaker 1: the old way of just sending you checks and apologizing

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Speaker 1: all the time, that's not going to continue. If nothing else,

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Speaker 1: it does not get us what we want. We're not

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Speaker 1: just giving money to these countries. This is not supposed

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Speaker 1: to be charity. It's supposed to be foreign aid to

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Speaker 1: help them be better partners with us. And when a

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Speaker 1: country like El Salvador can't stop hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 1: its people from leaving traversing other countries coming into our

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Speaker 1: country falsely claiming asylum because they're really economic fagrants. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we should consider not just throwing more money at them,

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Speaker 1: and maybe there should be some sense of responsibility on

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Speaker 1: their side. Here is a tiny, impoverished Latin American nation

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Speaker 1: that at least at the leadership level, was willing to

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Speaker 1: have or willing to show more of a sense of

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Speaker 1: accountability and autonomy and with that the self respect of

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Speaker 1: facing facts. Then you'd see in a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: much larger, wealthier countries all over the world. I love

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Speaker 1: to point the finger in America and say, oh, they're

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Speaker 1: They're the reason that we have all these problems. They're

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Speaker 1: the reason that things cannot seem to get any better here.

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Speaker 1: It's just not true. How does also of the word

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Speaker 1: become a place that you would be you would want

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Speaker 1: to visit, because right now I couldn't tell you that

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Speaker 1: you should visit. It's not safe, and there's there's nothing there.

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Speaker 1: It's not good, there's not a thriving tourism industry. The

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Speaker 1: you know, there's not a lot of foreign investment, because

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Speaker 1: you would be putting your dollars in a place where

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Speaker 1: who knows what's going to happen. Who knows what the

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Speaker 1: next presidency would be like or even if this presidency

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Speaker 1: will follow through on its promises. But I can tell

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Speaker 1: you this the president's approach of let's deal in reality

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Speaker 1: and stop just doing what we've been told to do

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Speaker 1: all along by the so called smart set in diplomacy,

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Speaker 1: It's already working. It's already showing more results than what

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Speaker 1: you would have seen. I just as an aside of

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Speaker 1: folks seeing Mike Pompeo work the room, talk to people,

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Speaker 1: work with allies, and just the ability that this individual,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's look, he was first in his class.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna sound like the Pompeo amenchorus here everything.

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Speaker 1: Guy was first in his class at West Point of

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Speaker 1: a thousand cadets, went to Harvard, started a business, was

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Speaker 1: a congressman, it was CIA director. You know, was a

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Speaker 1: member of the United States military, you know, served in

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Speaker 1: the uniform. See him out there doing this stuff. And

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Speaker 1: then just to think of what it would have been

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Speaker 1: like to be on the plane with Hillary years ago

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Speaker 1: as she was doing this and with the hacks that

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Speaker 1: she surrounded herself with. I'm sure that some of the

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Speaker 1: savvier Latin American leaders are like, Okay, well, this is

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Speaker 1: now the serious team that has arrived. Pompeio is a

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Speaker 1: serious person. Hillary is a nightmare on a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of levels, and the people around her were jokes when

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Speaker 1: it came to foreign policy, knowledge, understanding, and vision. So

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Speaker 1: there has been there has been this change. It's not

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Speaker 1: one you're gonna hear about much in the press. It's

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Speaker 1: not when you're gonna hear about much from the rest

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Speaker 1: of the media. But I'm here to tell you that

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Speaker 1: Pompeio is the a team. I mean, these guys know

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Speaker 1: when it comes to foreign policy. These guys know what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. They understand how to pursue the president's goals.

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Speaker 1: The president gives them a very free hand to operate.

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Speaker 1: And you know, look, I'm very critical of the sclerotic,

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Speaker 1: ossified bureaucracy of the State Department because I think it

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Speaker 1: does need to be shaken. But that's going to take

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Speaker 1: a long time. It's been around forever, right, Presidents come

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Speaker 1: and go, but the Department is forever. That's their unofficial motto.

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Speaker 1: They are way too hierarchical, it's way too stuffy, and

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Speaker 1: oh you know this person and that person, you know,

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Speaker 1: they they have It's it's almost like they have a

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Speaker 1: paramilitary organization where everyone's just sitting around, you know, drinking

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Speaker 1: tea and eating crumpets all the time. Like they don't

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Speaker 1: need to be a paramilitary organization because they're really just talking.

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Speaker 1: That other part of it doesn't doesn't need to be there,

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Speaker 1: so that the State Department itself, there's a lot that

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Speaker 1: I think, I think should just be changed institutionally and attitudinally.

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Speaker 1: But Pompeo and his team, the senior people that I

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Speaker 1: saw an action that I got to talk to and

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Speaker 1: speak on and off the record, and they're pursuing this

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Speaker 1: president's objectives and they are turning Latin America into a

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Speaker 1: direction that will be far more positive for them and

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Speaker 1: for us. Now, are they going to solve the migrant crisis?

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Speaker 1: The real lynchpin into all that is Mexico. Now, Mexico,

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Speaker 1: it's not a small country that's just been racked by

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Speaker 1: socialism for a long time and had you know, has

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Speaker 1: very little in terms of resources. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: El Salvador could stop the migrant crisis even if it

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Speaker 1: wanted to. They just don't have state resources to throw

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Speaker 1: at this, and remember it's it's they got to traverse.

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Speaker 1: It's like a two hour car ride to get out

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Speaker 1: of El Salvador and Guatemala for most of the folks there.

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Speaker 1: It's a thousand miles across Mexico to get the US

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Speaker 1: Mexico border. So there's a lot more room for Mexico

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Speaker 1: to do something about this than there is for Al Salvador,

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Speaker 1: or for Guatemala first, and then for Al Salvador, you know,

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Speaker 1: Guatemala men for Mexico. So I do think that this

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Speaker 1: is a turning point in our relationship with the region.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll be permanent and how long

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Speaker 1: it will last, but there has been a change in

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Speaker 1: an attitude. Mexican still being a little because they have

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Speaker 1: a little more leverage. They know there's a large Mexican

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Speaker 1: diasper community in the United States, they know that there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of border trade there. There's a lot more

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Speaker 1: leverage for the Mexican government. But Trump's got leveraged too.

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Speaker 1: So though I just wanted to share with you as

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Speaker 1: much as I could, you know, on today's show, and

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Speaker 1: if you have any other questions or any other thoughts

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Speaker 1: about this, by all means email me or send me

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Speaker 1: a Facebook message. But it was well worth it to

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Speaker 1: have this experience of seeing diplomacy and action in this way,

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Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed it. And I want to thank

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Speaker 1: the team that brought me out there too, and thanks

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Speaker 1: Secretary State Pompeo. Oh but we're not done, because I

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Speaker 1: got a Pompeo interview coming up, and then we'll get

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Speaker 1: into the news of the day. And oh, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I haven't thought about the squad folks and Trump

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Speaker 1: and fighting with them, and don't We're gonna dig into

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Speaker 1: because that's still good. Guess what, They're still gonna be

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Speaker 1: fighting with Trump tomorrow. I assure you that's not going away.

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Speaker 1: There's still going to be all kinds of oh Trump

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Speaker 1: is a racist tomorrow. I thought today we spent one

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Speaker 1: more time on the trip. Foreign policy, we don't do

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Speaker 1: it Iran. I know they seized this British this this

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Speaker 1: British ship. People are very concerned this. It would just

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Speaker 1: expect this continued misbehavior from Iran for for a while,

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Speaker 1: but they actually don't have If we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: foreign policy, I felt like I should mention this. The

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Speaker 1: Uranians don't have the time here, time is not on

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Speaker 1: their side. Their economy is imploding, they are feeling the pain.

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Speaker 1: Grabbing a ship here or there, that's just optics. That's

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Speaker 1: just trying to quiet their critics internally and trying to

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Speaker 1: see if they can rattle US and our European allies

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Speaker 1: and create divisions and separations. Grabbing a ship here or

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Speaker 1: there is not going to get the Uranians out of

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Speaker 1: the bind there in Now. Remember the fundamental mistake the

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Speaker 1: Obama administration made was, Oh, the Uranians are under so

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Speaker 1: much pressure, Let's bail them out now and give them

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Speaker 1: a lifeline of a deal that's way too favorable for them.

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Speaker 1: That was the mistake they made. This administration will not

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Speaker 1: do that. We've got the Pompeio interview to talk about

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Speaker 1: in a moment. Then I've got what is it this um,

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Speaker 1: this woman who made a race hoax charge about being

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Speaker 1: in line with too many items and all this I'll

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Speaker 1: get into that. We got your and Grillago, we got

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Speaker 1: We've got a fantastic show. I know more Latin America

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Speaker 1: that we usually do as well, at least south of Mexico.

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Speaker 1: But I was just there as I figured why not,

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. So indeed, I was traveling all

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Speaker 1: over Latin America all on the Secretary of State Mike

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Speaker 1: Pompeo's plane, saw some fascinating stuff and talking to you

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Speaker 1: about it today on the show. I had the chance

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Speaker 1: to sit down one on one with Secretary Pompeo yesterday

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Speaker 1: in Mexico City, right before he went into some very

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Speaker 1: high stakes and important discussions with the Mexican government about

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Speaker 1: migration as well as other issues. Here is the full

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Speaker 1: interview for your listening enjoyment. All right, Buck Sexton here

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Speaker 1: with the Buck Sexton Show. We're joined by Secretary of

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Speaker 1: State Mike Pompeo. Mister Sectory. We are here in Mexico City.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time, but it's great

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Speaker 1: to be with you. So let's start with the migration

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Speaker 1: crisis if we can. What needs to be done by

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Speaker 1: our Mexican counterparts to meet the Trump deadline, What have

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Speaker 1: they done so far, and where there's still some areas

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Speaker 1: that might need to be further negotiated. So we're now

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Speaker 1: just about forty five days after the agreement that the

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Speaker 1: State Department worked out with Marcello Broaden as Ministry Foreign Ministry.

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Speaker 1: Here in Mexico. We've made real progress. There's a whole

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Speaker 1: lot more enforcement on the Mexican side, both on their

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Speaker 1: southern border and increased enforcement on their northern border as well.

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Speaker 1: We now have processes, the migrant Protection protocols and plan

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Speaker 1: that are being executed and it has reduced the number

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Speaker 1: of illegal transits coming across our border. But it's still

643
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Speaker 1: too high. There's still more work that needs to be done.

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Speaker 1: We need to do this cooperatively. We need to find methodology.

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Speaker 1: There's no silver bullet, but we need to create a

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Speaker 1: model that deters these people from taking this track, which

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Speaker 1: is so dangerous and so harmful to so many people

648
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Speaker 1: leaving the Northern Triangle and transitting through Mexico. What is

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Speaker 1: the science of the Safe Third Country agreement right now

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Speaker 1: with Mexico? Do you think it will hold? People are

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Speaker 1: talking about a possible core challenge and as the Mexican

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Speaker 1: government committed to continuing to hold migrants as they try

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Speaker 1: to cross through and make their way to the United States.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to talk to for mister Brod today

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Speaker 1: about the Safe Third Agreement, about all the other elements

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Speaker 1: of the combined plan as well. People tend to focus

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Speaker 1: on one thing at a time. In fact, it's going

658
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Speaker 1: to be a series of things that deliver this outcome,

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Speaker 1: American sovereignty, American protection at its border. It's going to

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Speaker 1: take more work on our side as well. So there

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Speaker 1: are many pieces this puzzle. I just would folks single

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Speaker 1: out a particular documentary, a particular theory of how we're

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Speaker 1: going to stop this. I always cautioned them that this

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Speaker 1: is a challenging problem. We have to be aggressive on

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Speaker 1: every front. Is the Mexican government sufficiently committed to helping

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Speaker 1: us in this? The only thing that matters is the numbers, right,

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Speaker 1: The only thing that matters is not words, not pieces

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Speaker 1: of paper, not agreements. But in the end, are we

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Speaker 1: able to successfully control our border. I've watched their re engagement.

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Speaker 1: I applaud them for that, applaud President Overdoor for taking

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Speaker 1: steps that the previous government wasn't prepared to take. And

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Speaker 1: that's good news. We've got to get to a better place.

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Speaker 1: We're still not where America needs to be. And frankly,

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Speaker 1: I think it's not only better for America, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's better for the people of Northern Triangle in

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Speaker 1: Mexico as well. Later today we'll be in El Salvador,

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Speaker 1: a part of a Northern Triangle. How are they handling

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Speaker 1: their end of the partnership here to deal with this crisis.

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Speaker 1: What do we expect from them, what do we want

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Speaker 1: from them? And what can they do? But we have

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Speaker 1: broadened our diplomatic engagement with the Northern Triangle. We've taken

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Speaker 1: this very seriously. Many of the folks that we apprehend

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Speaker 1: today at our southern border, or not only from those

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Speaker 1: three countries, but are transitting through those three countries. They

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Speaker 1: have an obligation. You know. It's interesting. I saw some

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Speaker 1: statistics on how many Guatemalans have left, how deep the

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Speaker 1: level of microation is. This isn't good for Guatemala to

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Speaker 1: have their citizens leaving either. They need their people to

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Speaker 1: want to stay in their country and their leaders need

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Speaker 1: to create rule of law and systems that will convince

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Speaker 1: them that that's the right thing to do. But in

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Speaker 1: the interim, we have enforcement measures and to terrance measures

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Speaker 1: that we have to put in place. And so I'll

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Speaker 1: be with the new leader in El Salvadore. I'll speak

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Speaker 1: with the Guatemalans later this week as well by phone.

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Speaker 1: There's still a lot of work to do, as they are.

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Speaker 1: There are too many people leaving the Northern Triangle and

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Speaker 1: transitting Mexico. Now switching to Iran for a moment, there

699
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Speaker 1: was obviously a downed drone Irani and drone. The Rani

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Speaker 1: and FOD ministers seems to think it did not happen.

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Speaker 1: You've already confirmed that did, in fact happen. The Iranians

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Speaker 1: have a doorway to move away from Bellico's behavior. They

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Speaker 1: have a path. What is that path? That's really simple.

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Speaker 1: What President Trump is asking of the leadership in Iran

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Speaker 1: is to behave like a normal nation. We're not asking

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Speaker 1: I saw last night, I saw Ford ministers or reefs

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Speaker 1: say what about the things that Pompeo asked for? There

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Speaker 1: were these twelve points that we laid out. Really these

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Speaker 1: are a set of simple request that the Iranian regime

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Speaker 1: refrained from killing people in Europe the assassination campaigns around

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Speaker 1: the world. Release saw hostages, stop your nuclear and Richmond

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Speaker 1: in your weapons program, cease preparing missiles that threatened Israel.

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Speaker 1: Some simple demands and for misters a reef said, well,

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Speaker 1: this would be annihilation for my country. I'll have the

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Speaker 1: words a little bit off, but he said this would

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Speaker 1: be national annihilation. Nothing could be further from the truth.

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Speaker 1: What we've asked the leadership with these longer republic that

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Speaker 1: we're on to do is to behave like a normal country,

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Speaker 1: grow your economy, take care of your own people, stop

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Speaker 1: arming proxy forces that are killing people all around the

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Speaker 1: world and threatening American interests around the world. If they

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Speaker 1: do those things, President Trump is happy to engage them

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Speaker 1: in a way that we engage other countries around the world.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the pressure campaign has a realistic shot

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Speaker 1: of making them concede to those requests? Remember the mission

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Speaker 1: set of the pressure campaign. The first priority was to

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Speaker 1: deny the Iranian leadership resources. Previous administration taking a different approach,

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Speaker 1: It said Ali Ali Oxen, for here's all the money

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Speaker 1: you can possibly stand to build out your terror campaign,

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Speaker 1: to build your nuclear weapon system, to pay nuclear physicists,

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Speaker 1: all of the things that money can deliver terror against

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Speaker 1: Israel out of Hezbollah and from Syria. The first proposition

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Speaker 1: for our campaign was to deny wealth and resources for

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Speaker 1: the Iranian leadership, and it has been enormously sucessful in

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Speaker 1: doing so. You can see it as Blas passing the

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Speaker 1: tin cup. Whether this will ultimately lead or on to

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Speaker 1: make the right rational decision to engage in the negotiation.

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Speaker 1: I'm hopeful, but ultimately the decision will have to be

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Speaker 1: that of the Ayatollah. And what can you tell us

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Speaker 1: about the status or the ongoing discussions with the Chinese

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Speaker 1: to get some kind of trade agreement. Obviously what has

742
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Speaker 1: been called the trade war has been going on for

743
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Speaker 1: quite some time, and other presidents said that there's been

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Speaker 1: some good stuff recently without a whole lot of specifics.

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Speaker 1: Where are we and what are the stumbling blocks? But

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Speaker 1: I can't give you many more specifics either. I got

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Speaker 1: an update earlier this week on the status of the

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Speaker 1: negotiations between the Chinese and Secretary of Minuchin and Ambassador

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Speaker 1: or Lightheiser. They're moving forward. In the end. The stubbling

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Speaker 1: blocks are the central set of issues. It is how

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Speaker 1: is China going to engage in the world. Are they

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Speaker 1: going to continue to steal intellectual property? Are they going

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Speaker 1: to continue to force American businesses to participate and invest

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Speaker 1: in their economy to transfer technology they want? The rule

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Speaker 1: of law? Are they prepared to lower their tariffs so

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Speaker 1: that they're equitable and fair and reciprocal. Those are the

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Speaker 1: things that are being negotiated. Those are a set of

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Speaker 1: demands that we put on every country that we trade with.

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Speaker 1: We hope the Chinese will see that that's in their

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Speaker 1: one billion people's best interest, But so far the Chinese

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Speaker 1: Communist Party has said that this is not something that

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Speaker 1: they're prepared to live with and sticking in roughly the

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Speaker 1: same geography the status of the ongoing talks with North Korea.

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Speaker 1: What reasons should the American people have right now for optimism?

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Speaker 1: Some obviously have been frustrated from the beginning. Others are

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Speaker 1: willing to give the president more leeway because there's been

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00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: pretty bipartisan failure on this for a while. Why should

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Speaker 1: people think this is going to work. When we came

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Speaker 1: into office, it was in a bad place. The President

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Speaker 1: Trump made a decision to engage with them in a

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Speaker 1: serious way. We're continuing to try to do that. We

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Speaker 1: hope that the working level discussions will begin in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. The North Greens have to go fill

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Speaker 1: the promise the chairman kid May he promised that he

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Speaker 1: would Denuclaris his country, did so publicly in a written

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Speaker 1: documente set it in Trump He's told me that half

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Speaker 1: a dozen times personally they have to make a decision

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Speaker 1: that they're prepared to go execute that. In exchange for that,

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Speaker 1: President Trump has been very clear, We're prepared to provide

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Speaker 1: a set of security arrangements that gives them comfort that

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Speaker 1: if they disband their nuclear program, that the United States

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Speaker 1: won't attack them in the absence of that. In second,

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Speaker 1: a brighter future for the North Korean people. That's the

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Speaker 1: outlines of the agreement that Chairman Kim and President Trump

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Speaker 1: have made. We now need the North Korean negotiators to

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Speaker 1: begin to build out on those principles that the two

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Speaker 1: leaders have set forward. Is there clarity on that major

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Speaker 1: point of what denuclearization means? Absolutely. I've talked to Charemy

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Speaker 1: Kim about this many many times. Absolute clarity. There's no dispute.

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Speaker 1: This is the fully denuclearized, verified effort that we have

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Speaker 1: been talking about for all of this time. There I

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Speaker 1: hear people talk about whether there's ambiguity. There's no ambiguity.

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Speaker 1: And if I could just bring us back a lot

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Speaker 1: in America quickly, venezuela place where people have been for

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Speaker 1: a while, maybe there would be a shift in who's

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Speaker 1: ruling the country, who the president of the country is,

797
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: is obviously still in dispute. What has the US been

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Speaker 1: doing recently and what should our role be in trying

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Speaker 1: to help out somebody who is illegitimate Maduro and pushing

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Speaker 1: to power some of the Venezuelan people have already in

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Speaker 1: the Parliament has already decided should be in power with Guido.

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Speaker 1: Two things buck First, the transformation. You saw a little

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Speaker 1: bit of it yesterday when we were in Ecuador together.

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Speaker 1: The transformation here in South America, in Brazil, in Ecuador,

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Speaker 1: in Paraguay is enormous, moving towards freedom, moving towards democracy,

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Speaker 1: trying to get their economies back on free market footings.

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Speaker 1: That's closely related to what we're trying to do in Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to get Venezuela back to that same place.

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Speaker 1: You can see what socialism did there. A decade of

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Speaker 1: destruction has now put the Venezuela people in a place

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Speaker 1: where as many as five million Venezuelans will have fled

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Speaker 1: their country over the course of the next By the

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Speaker 1: time we get to the end of this year, our

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Speaker 1: mission set is to with allies. We have almost sixty

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Speaker 1: countries now who have recognized the correct, proper duly elected

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Speaker 1: leader of Venezuela wan GWe though we have the OAS

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Speaker 1: and the LEAMA group each working towards the same objective.

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Speaker 1: It's worth noting Buck will two things. One, Maduro leaving

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Speaker 1: is important. He needs to leave. He's not the duly

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Speaker 1: elected leader and there can't be free and fair elections

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Speaker 1: while he's there in Venezuela. But second, while that's necessary,

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Speaker 1: the Cubans need to leave as well. A new leader

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Speaker 1: with thousands of Cuban intelligence and defense officials still inside

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Speaker 1: the country won't have the capacity to deliver for the

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Speaker 1: Venezuelan people. So we're using tools in the American arsenal

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Speaker 1: that caused the incentive system to change so that we

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Speaker 1: can get to that objective. Secretary of State Mike Pompeyo,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time, so I appreciate it. Buck,

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Speaker 1: wonderful to be with you. Thank you all right, So

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Speaker 1: I was out traveling internationally for this one, but I

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring in producer Mike here for a second,

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Speaker 1: make sure I have all the facts. Producer Mike. Kathy Zoo,

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Speaker 1: who we might have on the show later this week

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Speaker 1: is a beauty pageant winner, correct, and she's come on

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Speaker 1: the radar of the leftists because of some tweets. Right, yeah, man, okay,

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Speaker 1: she was Miss America. What was the pageant? Always there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of the night. Yeah, think she was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think she was Miss America. Miss what state was

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Speaker 1: she from? Again? And not that it really matters, but

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Speaker 1: I'll find out. Producer Mike is our unofficial beauty contestant correspondent.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's right. So, uh, she she she got

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Speaker 1: in trouble and and they pulled her either her state

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Speaker 1: crown or whatever it was. She won a beauty contest

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Speaker 1: and she's a Chinese American Kathy Zoo. They pulled their crown,

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Speaker 1: and then we find out all the social justice left

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Speaker 1: thinks that what she said is unacceptable. And I have

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Speaker 1: to say, she's not a media person. She went on

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Speaker 1: CNN and just smoked Alison Camerado, Holliston Camerata. I'm a journalist, Uh, Camarada,

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Speaker 1: not a soubride Addison at Oh she's former Oh, Kathy Zoo,

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Speaker 1: former Michigan Very nice, Yeah, well done, Michigan. Michigan can

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Speaker 1: do something right these days. But Camarada and Zoo Part one,

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Speaker 1: this was on CNN. Oh my play nineteen. So let's

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Speaker 1: look at some of your posts that I think that

854
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Speaker 1: they had objections to. So here was one. This was

855
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Speaker 1: from October twenty seventeen. I think it was in reference

856
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Speaker 1: to some conversation about Black Lives matter. You wrote, did

857
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Speaker 1: you know the majority of black deaths are caused by

858
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Speaker 1: other blacks? Fixed problems within your own community first before

859
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: blaming others? So do you see how that could be

860
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: seen as offensive? You know, this tweet was on actually

861
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: in response to another person talking about how all blacks

862
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: or all cops are bad people, that they kill innocent

863
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Speaker 1: black people. And I think that you shouldn't just put

864
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: a blanked seaman over all cops. You know. Again, read

865
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Speaker 1: full tweets and contacts to make sure to fill us

866
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: to see the full story. Yeah, but I mean, I

867
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Speaker 1: guess your point. Did you know the majority of black

868
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Speaker 1: deaths are caused by other blacks? What's your point? That's

869
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Speaker 1: a statistics? And do you know who causes the majority

870
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Speaker 1: of white deaths? Why would you focus on blacks causing

871
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Speaker 1: black deaths when the majority of white deaths are caused

872
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: by white people? Why? You know? This is why people

873
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: think that that has a ring of racism to it.

874
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: You didn't mention the white statistic. You're the person who

875
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: focused in on that statistic. That's the statistic that you

876
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: decided to highlight instead of police successive force showing those statistics,

877
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: And so this is what got the attention of pageant officials.

878
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: Why didn't you mention who kills the majority of white people?

879
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: Cameron is. I don't know if she's an idiot or

880
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: if she just takes her marching orders from Zucker and

881
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: we'll just say whatever. I mean. She sounds like a

882
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: complete moron here. The whole thesis of Black Lives Matter

883
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: is there is is a surge and a pestilence of

884
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: racist murders of young black men by white police officers

885
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: in this country. That is that the theory is that

886
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: racially motivated murder is a huge problem for the black community.

887
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: By the statistics, that's a lie. Oh my gosh, book,

888
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: you can't know it's true. It's a lie. It's just not.

889
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 1: It is, in fact, very rare for a young black

890
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: American to be killed by a white police officer, less

891
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: than a hundred incidents a year, and that includes lawful

892
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: use of force incidents where some guys running at a

893
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: cop with a hatchet in his hands, trying to kill him.

894
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: Less than a hundred lethal force incidents a year with

895
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: law enforcement and a white cop and a young black

896
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: man or a black man event of any age. That's

897
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: so that's very rare. Three and twenty million people in

898
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Speaker 1: the country, less than one hundred of these incidents year

899
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: in year out. And if you were to look at

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Speaker 1: the numbers of how many are clearly justifiable, it's usually

901
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: about forty or fifty where there might have been it

902
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: could have gone either way, and there's like four or

903
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: five where yeah, it was you know, the murder by

904
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: murder by cop, and that does happen. I'm not saying

905
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, but it's maybe a half dozen in

906
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: any given year. Those are terrible incidents, but it's not

907
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: a it's not a national, ongoing systemic catastrophe. It's just not.

908
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: So Zoo points us out and all this thing goes,

909
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 1: why didn't you mention the what crime rates against other?

910
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: Why what is that has nothing to do it doesn't matter,

911
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do it. But she's it's not

912
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: very They're just not very smart. I know they sound

913
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: they try to sound smart. At CNN. They they oh man,

914
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: they're just they're posing as smart people, but they're really

915
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: just actors reading lines. For the most part, they don't

916
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: know anything. And Kathy Zoo just completely crushed her. And

917
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: now here's you know the other do we do I

918
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: have time for this one? Mark? How much time do

919
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: I have left here? Before you? All? Right? Yeah? I

920
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: got so here's here's Camarda and Zoo on Kathy Zoo

921
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 1: on hit Jobs play twenty. So you wrote here there's

922
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: a try at hit job on booth at my college campus.

923
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that it's now just a fashion

924
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: accessory and not a religious thing, or are you just

925
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: trying to get women used to being oppressed under Islam again? Yeah?

926
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: You know, what would you like to say about that?

927
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: And you don't see how that could be offensive? Not

928
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: at all? Um, they were you know that I went

929
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: past the booth. I was like for class already. They

930
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: were saying, do you want to put on a job

931
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: putting a you know over me as a No, I

932
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: don't want to. I decline wearing this you know garment.

933
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: I think that you know, it's it's really a rude

934
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Speaker 1: I feel like to Muslims too, that you know, to

935
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: wear their sacred garment on someone who isn't a Muslim themselves.

936
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I wouldn't want to put, you know,

937
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: a Catholic rosary on someone if they aren't Catholics. Not

938
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Speaker 1: what you said. What you said, It wasn't that you

939
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: felt badly for them that you weren't Muslim. It's that

940
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: you said or you're just trying to get women used

941
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: to being oppressed under it. Yes, there are there are

942
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: so many women in Muslim countries right now who are

943
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: being stoned to death because they don't want to wear

944
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: hjab due to their husband's requirement to do so. And

945
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: I think that we should be focusing on that way

946
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: more than the Western things about Muslim because you know,

947
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: there's so many bad things happening in Muslim countries because

948
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: of these you know, women, and and these women aren't

949
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: being you know, crucified for not wearing a hjab, and

950
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: I think that's really really awful. Kafe Zoo is just

951
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot smarter than CNN's awsome Camarada. That's what comes

952
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: across of this interview. Nothing kafe Zoo said is racist

953
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: and evil, you know, But the Left is full of

954
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: woke cry babies now who are looking for any little

955
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: thing to be offended by. But in the first battle

956
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: of Camarada v Zoo, Zoo took her to the cleaners. Man,

957
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: it is not even close. But what about this thing

958
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: you said Alison should really stick to like selling stuff

959
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: on the home shopping network. She is not. She is

960
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: not up for this debate thing on TV. We just

961
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: spoke about Antifa in the last segment and and it

962
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: reminded me of a follow up I wanted to do

963
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: to the story about how our our friend Andy No,

964
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: an intrepid, a real journalist, somebody that puts himself in

965
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: harm's way to get facts and stories told that the

966
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: public should know about, and that much of the media

967
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: does not want to cover because of their political biases.

968
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: Andy No has released video of right after he was

969
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: attacked on June twenty ninth by Antifa in Portland. It

970
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: was just a crazy incident, so violent police. Police are

971
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: there but do nothing. They just stand idly by while

972
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: law abiding citizens and while journalists, real journalists like Andy

973
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: are attacked. I think he had a brain hemorrhage. I mean,

974
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: he really got attacked. It wasn't a little. They put

975
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: him in the hospital. Uh. Here's the way that these

976
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: Antifa folks, the ones that the media is always trying

977
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: to come up with a new way of saying, oh

978
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: they're not that bad, and oh you know, let's not

979
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: get ahead of ourselves. Here's what they how they treat

980
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: the media. This is this is very instructive about just

981
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: how much ideology blinds leftist journals to what's really going on.

982
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: Here's how they here's how they talked to some journalists

983
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: right after they attacked Andy play four of all. I'm

984
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: out here just trying to cover both sides. I know,

985
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: I'm just out here to cover the whole thing. Then

986
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm a journalist. I'm not for paper, not from a paper.

987
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: You don't have to be say it's the internet, didn't

988
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: have No, it's not a personal journalist. Yeah, I'm just

989
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: a guy. You guys got a bullhard these guys with

990
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: the round you got away. I'm walking outlet you're walking

991
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: out of my way. You move on my way right now? Way?

992
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Why have you something? Guy? Yeah, I know I think

993
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: you're scaring people. Man. Very interesting. Notice how the Antifa

994
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: member here, those little liberal lunatics, wants to know if

995
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: he's in a journalist with an established outlet, and what

996
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: does that tell you? Why do they fear so much

997
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 1: non established outlet journalists, and why would they be so

998
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: fine with somebody from say CNN or Reuters or well,

999
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: from my own experience being around the press recently, the

1000
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: big p press, Because there are a bunch of live

1001
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 1: activists too, and we all know this. Antifa knows that

1002
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: they're really not the journalists who are they're covering it

1003
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: the establishment journalists. They're not looking to show what a

1004
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: bunch of maniacs Antifa are. They're there to get the

1005
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: police reaction in the hope that they can find some

1006
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: photos of police and riot gear, maybe engaged in some

1007
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: police brutality. That's the story. Remember, we always talk about narrative.

1008
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: The narrative that mainstream journalists want to tell whenever these

1009
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: incidents in Portland with Antifa, with the so called anti

1010
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: fascists happen is oh, look look at these pictures of

1011
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: how crazy things are, and oh look at this police overreaction.

1012
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: It's never These are leftists who would all vote for

1013
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 1: a Democrat for president, who think that violence against those

1014
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: with whom they politically disagree is justified, and they are

1015
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: part of a cohesive ideology that has chapters across the

1016
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: country and acts as a domestic terrorist organization. That is

1017
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: not the story the left wing journos want to tell.

1018
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: But that's why they want to know what outlet are

1019
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: you with? I mean, heaven forbid somebody would say, oh,

1020
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm with Fox News. You know, Heaven forbid you. You

1021
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: weren't from one of the mainstream press shops that they

1022
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: know that Antifa knows, you know, just like they wouldn't

1023
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: show the photo of Obama that photographer, wouldn't show the

1024
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: photo of Obama shaking hands with Farakhn before the election,

1025
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, just very newsworthy picture, but they buried it

1026
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to create problems for Obama. They

1027
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to show photos of Antifa really bludgeoning Andy No,

1028
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: because that doesn't look good for their team. The journals

1029
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: all pick teams these days. Friends, they just pretend not

1030
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: to even Antifa knows it. By the way, nobody has

1031
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: been arrested yet in that beating of Andy. Know, So

1032
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: there's anything you can do if you're in the area

1033
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: to help identify them and find them. Let me know,

1034
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: we got we got to track down those absolute thugs

1035
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: of Antifa. Now, how many times have you been in

1036
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: line at the grocery store in the express line, which

1037
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: we all know is a very important innovation in the

1038
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: grocery and food service business, because if you've only got

1039
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: to buy two things, it seems a little bit unfair

1040
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: that you have to wait in line behind somebody who's

1041
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: trying to feed, you know, a barbecue of fifty that's

1042
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: coming over that same night, and it's going to take

1043
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: twenty minutes to check out. Right, that seems like a

1044
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: pretty understandable both a rule, and it's one that has

1045
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: to be kind of like the quiet car on Amtrak,

1046
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: which some of you at least are familiar with. It's

1047
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: one that has to be enforced socially, not by socialist

1048
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: but has to be enforced by all of us. Right, Hey,

1049
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: you know you've got too many items, too many items

1050
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: in your cart there, buddy or madam. So look, this

1051
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: is it's one of these small incidents that is a reminder.

1052
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: The one I'm about to tell you about is a

1053
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: reminder that you can't go about your day to day

1054
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: without possibly falling a foul of the social justice warriors.

1055
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: There's just too many ways now. The social media is

1056
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: too omnipresent for any of us to think that we're

1057
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: able to just go through our lives without this possibility.

1058
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: All right, So here's what happened. And this got a

1059
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: lot of attention. While I was globetrotting with Secretary Pompeio

1060
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: on his jet, I'm just kidding. I was like in

1061
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: the way back with the press people, and you know

1062
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: they had they had us penned in there like a

1063
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: bunch of a bunch of sheep. But anyway, here we go.

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00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: This is what happened over the weekend. Georgia's state representative,

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00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: Erica Thomas down in the Great State of Georgia, said

1066
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: that somebody went up to her. Well, here we actually

1067
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: have her saying, what remember this is all about a

1068
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: grocery store too many items in your bag incident. I'm

1069
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: at the grocery store and I'm into ten out the

1070
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: out that says ten items a list. Yes, I have

1071
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: fifteen items, but I'm not most pregnant and I can't

1072
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: stand up for low. His white man comes up to

1073
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:15,959
Speaker 1: me and says, you lazy son of a bitch. He says,

1074
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: you lazy son of a bitch. You need to go

1075
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: back when he came. Bro. Wow, that's a horrible thing

1076
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: to say to somebody, completely unacceptable. What a disgrace this

1077
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: How did you describe again that this white man? What

1078
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: a disgrace? This white man clearly racist? This white man

1079
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: was for doing this. Now, before we go further, I

1080
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: would just say that when somebody has fifteen items and

1081
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: they should have ten, I think it's one of those

1082
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: situations where you know, if it's fifteen, maybe you let

1083
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: it slide. If you want to be the one that

1084
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: that enforces the rule. Though, I think you just kindly

1085
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: say excuse me, but I think you have too many items.

1086
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: I would appreciate it. If that's the way you say.

1087
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: You certainly don't go up to somebody and yell at

1088
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: them or say horrible thing. It's just not worth it.

1089
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: It's not a serious enough offense, right, Like, let's not

1090
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: be crazy. But here's the problem with some here, like Buck,

1091
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: I will enforce that rule. Here's the problem with the

1092
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: representative Erica Turner's story. It's a lie. She made it up.

1093
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: All the really bad stuff didn't happen. Oh that's right, folks.

1094
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: Another high profile national media level race hoax. How many

1095
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: of these do we have to see before we realize

1096
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: that the left is obsessed with race because it's a cheap, quick,

1097
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: easy way, the accusation of racism, for them to either

1098
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: win an art, for them to win an argument, to

1099
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: feel virtuous based on nothing, and to keep alive this

1100
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: notion in their own heads that they are fighting. They,

1101
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: the leftists, are fighting this battle against the evil white

1102
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: male racist hegemony in a Erica all the time. So

1103
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: here's here's the problem. Is that the man that she

1104
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: accused of this, the man that she accused, showed up

1105
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: at a at a press conference that she was giving

1106
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: and they had a an altercation about this. His last

1107
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: name was was Sparks. Uh, this is what this is

1108
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: what ended up happening here, So here we go. Christian Jennings,

1109
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: who is a WSB reporter, wrote, we were getting ready

1110
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: to interview Representative Erica Thomas outside the Publics, where she

1111
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: said a man called her the B word and told

1112
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: her to go back where you came from. Well, that

1113
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: man was already here at the publics because he wanted

1114
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: to speak to management. She confronted him. Oh this all.

1115
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: Now we have facts, Now we have video. Hmm, here's

1116
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: how that media exchange in real time went play six

1117
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: and calls you a son of it. I am facing

1118
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: the best that decrading me, a breating me, and I'm

1119
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: not clying, No, I'm not. I'm standing right in front

1120
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: of you. And if you know how you may you

1121
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: feel yesterday, if you know how you make that daughter

1122
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: the police, call the police right now, they are looking

1123
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: for you. I am God, you're here and I can't

1124
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: be that. Everybody needs to see this man that did

1125
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: this to me, and he thinks that he gets a

1126
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: five minutes of fame. You think that you're gonna come

1127
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: up when you see police, when you see SB SB

1128
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: forty six, you think you're gonna come up here and

1129
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: get a spotlight. No, you're not. The all the spot

1130
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: that you're gonna get is everybody needs to see the

1131
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: man that did this. So, woman that's nine months, nobody

1132
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: is here for you. Huh, Eric Sparks, what's the man

1133
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: that he showed up while she's giving this press conference

1134
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: speaking about seeking fifteen minutes of fame. She's the one

1135
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: who wants her fifteen minutes of fame, clearly, and she

1136
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: got it for all the wrong reasons. Eric Sparks, who

1137
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: it was, it came out later, is a Cuban American Democrat,

1138
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: a registered Democrat. So a Latino Democrat is the one

1139
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: who confronted this woman. And he spoke for himself in

1140
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: front of the camera so we could all hear exactly

1141
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: how this whole thing went down. Play eight. She did

1142
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: se message she's nine months pregnant. I said, it doesn't

1143
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: matter in this case. There's no point on this case.

1144
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: There's two empty lines. You don't need to beg an

1145
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: express lay. Then I stayed it. She said a few words.

1146
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: I stated it, well, your selfish little VCS. I did

1147
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: say that. That's all I said after that, and I

1148
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: walked out of publics her words stating on Twitter and

1149
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: her video stating I told her she needs to go

1150
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: back where she came from or untrue. I just wish

1151
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: we could all have a little moment of national here

1152
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: where if racism in this country was as bad as

1153
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: leftist pretend it is, they wouldn't need to constantly be

1154
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: making up incidents of racism and publicizing them. I mean,

1155
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: this is this is not quite on the scale of

1156
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: a Jessie Smollett, which was a premeditated racial hoax. But

1157
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: this is a woman who figured, oh here's my here's

1158
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: my opportunity to get famous and have everybody think that

1159
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm a really you know, I'm a person who's been

1160
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: victimized and I need their support and all this. And

1161
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: it turns out and she said, okay, well, no, he

1162
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: didn't actually say to come back home. You know, she's

1163
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: walked that whole thing back. Didn't actually say I need

1164
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: to go back to where I came from. So that

1165
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: means that there's no racial exchange here, right. Just someone

1166
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: calling her a you know, a a selfish B word

1167
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: is not nice. And I think I'll be I think

1168
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: that this Sparks Fellow was being a bit a bit nasty.

1169
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a hero in this. I just

1170
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: think that he's not a you know, he's not a

1171
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: white male, racist, Republican Trump supporter, which is what obviously

1172
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: Erica Thomas thought she'd be able to convince everybody was

1173
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: going on here. That was the plan, right, She was hoping, Okay,

1174
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: well I can get everyone to think that, you know,

1175
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: this was an incident of of maga bigotry. Turns out,

1176
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: now it's a Democrat it's a guy who just got

1177
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: a little bit ticked off that she was in the

1178
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: in the wrong line of grocery store. Now again, I

1179
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: think that we all just need to be a little

1180
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: more civil to each other. Ever, should be a little

1181
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: bit nicer. But I will note that this this uh

1182
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: Erica Thomas, who's a state state representative in Georgia. You know,

1183
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: she's not gonna lose her job. She's not gonna live

1184
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: an infamy for this or whatever. She could have ruined

1185
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: somebody's life. I mean, the intent of what she did

1186
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: here was to lie about someone, to brand him a racist,

1187
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: so that she could then further year and brand all

1188
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: white male Trump supporters, because that's always the implication. This

1189
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 1: white male racist who's a Republican did this racist thing.

1190
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: Therefore all white male racists are like him, all right.

1191
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: This is the they extract from one into many, and

1192
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: the leftist will always shut this down. On the other side,

1193
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's never, oh, this guy who is representing Antifa,

1194
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: that ANTIPA supports, that quoted the words of AOC about

1195
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: concentration camps when he attacked this ice facility up in Washington.

1196
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: It's never, oh, he's part of a broader movement and

1197
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the life should tone down. It's rhetoric at

1198
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, no no, they don't do that. It's only it's

1199
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: a one way street with all of that. But another

1200
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: another racial hoax, another racist incident that turns out to

1201
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: be fabricated. There's Now, this was a nasty incident, but

1202
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: it's reminiscent of a lot of a lot of weird

1203
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: things that people go through any community. I mean, I

1204
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: had a woman and actually i'll tell you this. She

1205
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: lives in my building in DC, and I was walking home.

1206
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: This was months and months ago. I was walking home

1207
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: from the hill and I was walking pretty pretty briskly

1208
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: because I want to get home and I'm a pretty

1209
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: fast walker. And this very small, very slight, very petite,

1210
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: and rather nasty woman kind of scurried in from behind

1211
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: me and looked in my face and yelled, you know,

1212
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: I've been trying to walk ahead of you, and I

1213
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: guess it's because we were It was the sidewalk had

1214
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: narrowed a little bit because there was a sidewalk cafe,

1215
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: and there were some other people coming in the opposite direction.

1216
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: But I want I looked at her. I was actually

1217
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: it was such a bizarre incident that I didn't even

1218
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: have a comeback or because I looked at her, I

1219
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: was like, I want I mean, my brain process was,

1220
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: are you a complete moron? If you really need to

1221
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: get around me? Jog or walk into the street where

1222
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: there are no cars at all and just cut in

1223
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: front of me. But you know, if I'm not walking

1224
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: fastener for you on an open street and you are

1225
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: right behind me, the answer is not to walk in

1226
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: front of me. After I don't know, you were five

1227
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: seconds of frustration and then tell me that I'm not

1228
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,480
Speaker 1: walking fast enough for you. It's an open street in Washington,

1229
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: d C. There's nothing, but there's nothing but open space

1230
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 1: around me. There's plenty of places to go, but you've

1231
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: chosen a lane that is right behind me. Choose a

1232
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: different way to walk, move to the right, move to

1233
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: the left, make a right turn at the next intersection.

1234
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: Like it was just but I was actually dumb struck

1235
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: by it because it was so dumb, because she was

1236
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: such a moron. I don't know what to say. So

1237
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: we can all be subjected to these things where we

1238
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: have to interact with somebody who's a complete nincompoop. But

1239
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't say I didn't call her the

1240
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: B word. I didn't say anything mean. I just kind

1241
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 1: of looked at all like huh. So that's probably when

1242
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: in doubt, folks just do that, Just stare at somebody

1243
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: with a quizzical expression. Don't do a race hoax. Well, team,

1244
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: last week El Chapo got sent to El Prisono and

1245
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: he's not going to be getting out for any time.

1246
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: I believe. I think he's gonna be there pretty much forever.

1247
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: So what the heck is going on with the Mexican

1248
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: drug trade? Now? What is the reality going forward of

1249
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: the drug war? In the absence of El Chapo. We

1250
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: have with us now Yon Grillo, who is a foreign

1251
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: based journalist. He's in Mexico. He's written some great books,

1252
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: including Gangster war Lords, which I downloaded onto my ken.

1253
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: I recommend you do the same, yo, And thanks so

1254
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: much for making the time for us. Always good to

1255
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: be here, buck. All right, so yo, first, let's just

1256
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: do it with the El Chapo. I mean, post sentencing,

1257
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: a lot of people will probably be thinking, okay, well,

1258
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: this very big fish has been has been taken out

1259
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: of the pond, so to speak, has it had a

1260
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: what has been let me ask that what has been

1261
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: the effect of El Chapo getting taken off the drug

1262
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: the drug kingpin battlefield, so to speak. Well, I think

1263
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: the idea, the extradition in the trial and sediking of

1264
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: Old Chapel is really the culmination of the kingpin strategy

1265
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: that the DA and the Mexican government have been pursuing

1266
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: for many years, going after the biggest fish, and they

1267
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: keep on keep on trying to get bigger and bigger.

1268
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: And he was the most infamous drug trafficker in the world.

1269
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: Now I say the most infamous, and I think he

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Speaker 1: was on a level of infamy alongside al Capone and

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Speaker 1: Pablo Escobar, but it doesn't necessarily translate into really his

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Speaker 1: wealth or his power. I think he was more of

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Speaker 1: an emblematic, iconic bigger in the Sinelar cartel. So the

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Speaker 1: process of him being taken down specifically and the very

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Speaker 1: other kingpins being taken down is there Nowadays, many of

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Speaker 1: the Mexican drug traffickers and the other Latin American drug

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Speaker 1: traffickis don't want the same profile. They're trying to keep

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Speaker 1: a bit more off the radar. They're not advertising themselves

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Speaker 1: in the same way wanting to get so famous or

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Speaker 1: infamous avel chap or public escobar. But the drug trade

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Speaker 1: itself continues. I mean it's a business. Americans are still

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Speaker 1: buying large quantities of illegal drug a lot of heroin

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Speaker 1: as you well know, a lot of cocaine. Crystal mess

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Speaker 1: is making a big comeback, and the Medican trascos abusing

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Speaker 1: a lot of crystal mess. And the Mexican cartels are

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Speaker 1: also in Benjonel now is what are still selling some marijuana,

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Speaker 1: although the legalizations cut some of that off. So the

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Speaker 1: trade itself carras on. You've got a host of different

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Speaker 1: figures around in the Cinelar cartel and then a dozen

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Speaker 1: rival cartels. So this multi billion footballar business keeps on

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Speaker 1: ticking away. And what kind of violence are we seeing

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Speaker 1: for those other cartels as they're jockeying for some supremacy,

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Speaker 1: and whether it's just within an individual cartel or against

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Speaker 1: each other, how much violence are we seeing among cartel members? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very large out Now you know this has been a

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Speaker 1: continuing problem as well in the war on drugs or

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Speaker 1: in the fighting against the drug trade. Is you give

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Speaker 1: it of one monster and the worst monster takes his place,

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Speaker 1: So one of the cartels has been coming up in

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Speaker 1: with the freshmeness in Laura cartel is cartell called the

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Speaker 1: Helisco New Generation Cartel has been on the rise. They

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Speaker 1: are on the sites of US law enforcement as a

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Speaker 1: special task force against them. They've been busts of many

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Speaker 1: of their people in the United States, but a cartel

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Speaker 1: which is very paramilitary life as well in their actions.

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Speaker 1: So you know, historically they've done things like they shot

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Speaker 1: down a Mexican military helicopter using RPT seven, that a

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Speaker 1: couple of their own places like hearts here which were

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Speaker 1: assembling a R fifteen assault rifles. That hundreds of those

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Speaker 1: that are making themselves. And they've been involved in all

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Speaker 1: kinds of killings in many parts of the country, places

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Speaker 1: like Tijuana, which is now actually the most murderous city

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Speaker 1: in Mexico by the numbers. Is Tijuana right on the

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Speaker 1: board to bear with San Diego, a big battle there

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Speaker 1: with the Helisco New Generation Cartel against the Cinelar cartel

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of other places. Also they're fighting in

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Speaker 1: kan Coon needs a lot of stories about the bodies

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Speaker 1: turning up in kan coom flight their government. Also they're

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Speaker 1: they're fighting another older carteller set up, so still a

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Speaker 1: lot of violence come on and tragically, and this is

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Speaker 1: really tragic in after I've been covering this for eighteen

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Speaker 1: years and always in the hope there's somehow this will

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Speaker 1: get better, somehow, you know, we can try and make

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Speaker 1: a difference by covering it. The first six months of

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Speaker 1: this year have been the most violent on recent records.

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Speaker 1: The most violence is a modern record keeping began of

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Speaker 1: murders in the early nineteen nineties, and when we're talking

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Speaker 1: about more than seventeen thousand killings in the firstix months,

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Speaker 1: we're speaking of Young Grillo, author of El Narco, as

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Speaker 1: well as Gangster Warlords. I actually have read and downloaded

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Speaker 1: both books, so I can recommend them to you all

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: as books that you should check out if you want

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01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: to know about Latin American gang warfare, the drug train

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Speaker 1: and all the rest of it, the drug cartels, if

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Speaker 1: you want to if you want to enjoy the Netflix

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01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: series Narcos a little bit more, you can check out

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Speaker 1: Jon's book. But but you know, I wonder how is

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Speaker 1: this current Mexican government approaching the cartels and the war

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Speaker 1: against the cartels. I was just down to Mexico City

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Speaker 1: traveling with Secretary Pompeo, as the audience knows. And I

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01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: know there was a whole bunch of behind closed door meetings.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get to hear what was going on there.

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Speaker 1: I would just want to know are they considered aggressive?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, because we don't see the headlines

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01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: we used to about cartel violence. But you're telling me

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Speaker 1: there's all this violence, So what is the Mexican government

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Speaker 1: doing about it? Sure so this current government. When andrews

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Speaker 1: Manuel looks Adoors running for office, he had two different

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Speaker 1: positions in a way. On this. One was this idea

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Speaker 1: of talking about peace and reconciliation of the war being over.

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Speaker 1: And then when he was asked in fact, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's about forgiveness. And even when he was asked about

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01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: the center think of El Chappa, he's saying, oh, it's

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01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's I don't wish anybody to spend their

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Speaker 1: whole life in prison in these kind of conditions, which

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Speaker 1: is how quite controversial. But he had to talk about

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Speaker 1: peace in some way, finding some way out of ending

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01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: this finding a piece of this thing. Is other position

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: that's quite different, is this idea of really returning the

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Speaker 1: power of the state. Now if you see what's been

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Speaker 1: happening in Mexico and a lot of Latin American and

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Speaker 1: roots in years. I mean, really is the route of

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01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: a lot of the people fleeing the violence and turning

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Speaker 1: up from the US border asking for asylum. Is the

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Speaker 1: kind of collapse or the degradation of governments and states

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Speaker 1: in these countries, and you see that in Mexico. So

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Speaker 1: one of his messages is the idea of re turning

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Speaker 1: the power in the state, and he talks about this well.

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Speaker 1: He's launched a new police force called the National Guard

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Speaker 1: and militarized police force moving around the country. Now, these

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Speaker 1: two positions are a little bit contradictory that he kind

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Speaker 1: of in some way had a discourse of peace, but

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Speaker 1: more of a position of finer, get the troops out there,

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Speaker 1: that those militarized please have been involved involved a lot

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01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: in detaining migrants from Central America in recent the last month,

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Speaker 1: particularly in big numbers, and a natural A lot of

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Speaker 1: the meeting you went towards was discussing but however they

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Speaker 1: should also in very try and reduce the level of violence.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't you know, in the same way as you

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Speaker 1: saw back in the administration of philippeather On, where there

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Speaker 1: was a kind of big, high profile takedowns and the

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Speaker 1: idea of putting people a capture in front of the

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Speaker 1: TV cameras. That kind of thing has gone away. So

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Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why you're not seeing this

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01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: on the news so much. And part of the reason

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01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: is simply, you know, people get weary of this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's very sad to say. When I first started covering this,

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Speaker 1: you know, many years ago, and when the people were beheaded,

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Speaker 1: it was a big story. When there was five beheadings,

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Speaker 1: it was a big story. By the time we got

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Speaker 1: to like forty eight bodies that being beheaded, he got

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Speaker 1: to such severe numbers. Now that could be well beheading

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01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: you twenty people killed and doesn't even make national news

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01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: in a big way anymore, you know. I was also

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Speaker 1: in El Salvador, and I've got to say, the new

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01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: president there was saying things that I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of Americans would would like to hear from any foreign partner,

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01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: that they aren't looking for handouts, that they want to

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Speaker 1: be self sufficient, they want to take the problems of

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Speaker 1: crime on head on. They want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: they can make it a place for foreign direct investment,

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Speaker 1: essentially that the president of El Salvador was saying, Look,

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Speaker 1: we know this place is poor, we know this place

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01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 1: is overrun with criminal gangs. We're going to turn that around.

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Speaker 1: Why haven't they been able to thus farm? And what

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01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: is what is the status of the as you put

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Speaker 1: it in your book, I mean the gangster warlords in

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Speaker 1: El Salvador most notably, but not only MS thirteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's there's a couple of things there. I mean, one

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01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: thing is it's not easy. There's not a clear blueprint

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Speaker 1: how to do this. If you look at the countries

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Speaker 1: in America and the Caribbean, they're suffering this really high

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01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,879
Speaker 1: level of violence. You can talk about a dozen countries

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Speaker 1: across the place. You can go down to Brazil, Hondura,

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01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: Jamaica and to these same problems, you know, repeated from

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Speaker 1: place to place, and no country, no government, has found

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Speaker 1: a clear path on how you deal with this quite

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01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: overwhelming levels of crime. But the other thing is the

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Speaker 1: resources they have are very very small. Now in El

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Speaker 1: Salvador and Honduras is a very poor countries. And I've

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Speaker 1: been out with the police in those countries and you

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01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: see sometimes they're seriously outgunned, so you know as well

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Speaker 1: as them, you know, having you know a few, you know,

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Speaker 1: very few reasons, then a thirting a lot of the

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Speaker 1: time with the government themselves are part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: I mean Honduras, particularly a very corrupt government where you

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Speaker 1: had the president's brother, um, you know, accused on drug

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01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: traficking charges. You've got you know, widespread accusations of murders,

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01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: extraditial killing, vibate security forces. So sometimes you have the

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Speaker 1: governments themselves are part of the problems. And there really

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01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: those three things combining together. But you know, one thing

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Speaker 1: is the Central America. You know, it's very obviously, very

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Speaker 1: near the United States, very poor country. Is a small

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Speaker 1: amount of money will go a very long way. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it is interesting. I think the United States

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01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: has got involved in many countries around the world, but

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01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 1: these countries right on its door step, where a few

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Speaker 1: reasons who can make a really big difference, that difference

1439
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: hasn't been made. Joan Grillo, everybody, author of Gangster Warlords

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Speaker 1: and El Narco Jon, stay safe down there in Mexico.

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01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: Eat some tacos for me. I'm sorry we didn't get

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01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: to meet up this time. Next time in Mexico City.

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01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: Though you've got to buy some survices, all right, I'll

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01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: buy you survetions. I dot the best places and they're

1445
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: always great to chat about. All the best. Thanks so much,

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01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: my friend. Take care team will be right back. It

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01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: said no collusion, so the report was written, and the

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01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 1: Attorney General, based on the report, was easily able to

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01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: find there was no obstruction. There's no nothing wasting that time.

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01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: And Robert Muller, I know he's conflicted. He had there's

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01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: a lot of conflicts that he's got, including the fact

1452
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: that his best friend is coming. But he's got conflicts

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01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: with me too. He's got big conflicts with me. As

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01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, he wanted the job of the FBI director.

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01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: He didn't get it, and we had a business relationship

1456
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: where I said no, and I would say that he

1457
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: wasn't happy. Then all of a sudden he gets this position.

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01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: But you know what, he's still ruled, and I respect

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01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 1: him for it. He's still ruled. No collusion, no obstruction.

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01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 1: And this thing should have ended a long time ago.

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01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: This has been going on for two and a half years,

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01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: and we're never going to allow this to happen to

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01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: another president again. Because most of wouldn't be able to

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01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: take it. President Trump getting ready for what's going to

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01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: just be. I think it's pretty obvious, really a battle

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01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:57,919
Speaker 1: of narratives. After the Komy I'm sorry, the Mueller testimony.

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01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: We already had Komi sank to Coomy. I still think

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01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: that's one of the best nicknames for him out there.

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01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: We started to hear on this show. We got the

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01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: Muller testimony in front of Congress on Wednesday. Oh here

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Speaker 1: in the swamp here in DC. Everyone's going to be

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01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: so excited about this, and it'll be all this focus.

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01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to watch it all day long. I'll

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01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: be all about this, paying all kinds of attention to this.

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Speaker 1: But truth be told, I think it's going to result

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Speaker 1: in very little new information. I think that the greatest

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Speaker 1: likelihood here is that you're going to have him just

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01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 1: repeat and this will be his strategy, because his strategy

1479
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 1: all along was to give the Democrats as much as

1480
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: he could to help them in their efforts to destroy Trump.

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01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 1: I think what's going to happen is that he's going

1482
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,799
Speaker 1: to get he's going to just stick to the script,

1483
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: almost literally, and that he's just gonna say it's that

1484
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: what's in the report, is my answer, or I'll repeat

1485
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: what I what we wrote in the report, and you're

1486
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 1: just gonna hear him say he's everything's gonna be about

1487
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: the report, the report, the report, and that's going to

1488
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: be his escape patch. They're going to try to ask

1489
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 1: him some questions on the Republican side of the aisle

1490
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: about why didn't why didn't he look into anything having

1491
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: to do with the origins of the investigation, the origins

1492
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 1: of the of the dossier on Russia collusion, all this stuff,

1493
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 1: and he'll just say, you know, he'll say it's in

1494
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: the report, or look at what we wrote in the report,

1495
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 1: even when there is nothing in the report. I believe

1496
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: that's going to be one of his strategies as well.

1497
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: He's gonna be saying, well, you know, just just look

1498
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: at the report. Man. That's going to be the way

1499
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: that he deflects whenever, whenever he wants on everything that

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01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: he wants to deflect. But yeah, I don't expect there

1501
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: to be a whole lot that comes out of it

1502
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: of major consequence, because all along this has been about

1503
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: trying to take down Trump and there's just no there's

1504
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: no way to do more than what they've already done

1505
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: on Russia collusion. They've tried everything that they realistically can try.

1506
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't see anything here. I don't

1507
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: see anything that's going to come out that'll be particuarly

1508
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: helpful to them. I mean Kelly and Conway. She certainly

1509
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: look I know she's the president's counselor and really spokesperson.

1510
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: In many ways she agrees with me. So there's that

1511
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: eighteen president of zero concerns, except that the taxpayers are

1512
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: on the hook again for this fantasy that never came

1513
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: true for the Democrats who promised all of you, and

1514
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: sometimes with your help, that they would be a criminal

1515
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 1: conspiracy and collusion. The Russians helped the Trump campaign, we welcome,

1516
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: we welcomed help, and it and it turned an election

1517
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: where you know that's not true. Director Muller himself has

1518
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: said that his report is his testimony that ought to

1519
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: be respected and that ought to be accepted. We know

1520
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: neither side is going to accept that it's going to

1521
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 1: turn into a free for all of He said this,

1522
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: He said that, oh my gosh, there'll be that on

1523
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: both sides. Although I really do think that the Democrats

1524
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 1: they had somebody trying to make their case for them

1525
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: as the special counsel for two years, with a whole

1526
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 1: bunch of Democrat prosecutors alongside him. So I mean, they've

1527
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: had their shot and then some if we're gonna be

1528
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 1: honest about this, Republicans have not had their shot. We

1529
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: have not had someone with the kind of powers that

1530
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Muller has, with the resources that Muller had, looking into

1531
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,719
Speaker 1: exactly what was done in this whole Russia collusion farce

1532
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: by people like James Coomey and Andy McCabe and you

1533
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: know what was going on with this guy miff sued

1534
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,879
Speaker 1: and well, you know, you look at all these different threads,

1535
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: the dossier, Christopher Steele, all of this. No one has

1536
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: been able to look at that the way that Democrats

1537
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:55,959
Speaker 1: have already had Muller with full prosecutorial and investigative powers

1538
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: try to make their case for them. So what I'm

1539
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: saying is they've already spent their unition. We haven't had

1540
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: anyone fire off rounds on our behalf, so to speak.

1541
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: We've just been sitting around saying, when can this complete

1542
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: sham of an investigation come to an end? So we'll

1543
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: talk more about the Mueller situation as it gets closer.

1544
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: But you know, I always tell you the truth here.

1545
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: I respect, and quite honestly, I'm just too fond of

1546
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: this audience to do anything other than tell you the

1547
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: truth and what I really think. I could probably see

1548
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: this all Wednesdays. That's when the whole Mueller thing comes.

1549
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: That's when the swamp rats are running for cover at all.

1550
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: You know, this is your people saying this on different

1551
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: shows and different stations. I just I don't see it happening.

1552
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 1: Mueller's two kg and he's remember he's not just protected

1553
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: by the Democrats that will be there. They'll they'll be

1554
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: there to bail him out. And Democrats will act like

1555
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: spoiled children in Congress. They'll they'll scream and kick and

1556
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 1: wind if they have to to stop a hostile line

1557
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: of questioning against Muller. But then the media will just

1558
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: run total interference for him and magnify whatever talking points

1559
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: the Democrats give them beforehand. It doesn't even really matter

1560
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: what he says. I already can tell you where you

1561
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: already know what Muller's testimony is going to be. It's

1562
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: in the report. We couldn't prove this. We couldn't. We

1563
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: couldn't prove that. Was it a weird, shady, politicized thing

1564
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: I did. I'm not going to answer that question, you know,

1565
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: see you later. That's the way it's going to be.

1566
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: But I could be wrong. It's rare, but it's possible.

1567
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: The show ain't over yet, folks, keeping it real, it's

1568
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: time for roll call. I feel like it has been

1569
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: days and days team since we had a chance to

1570
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: chat through the roll call. So thank you so much

1571
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 1: for sending me your thoughts. I missed you all. I

1572
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: always feel this way, and I wasn't even on vacation

1573
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: this time. It's not like Buck was on the beach

1574
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: hanging out drinking some low agave marks. That's kind of become.

1575
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 1: I refuse to call them skinny margaritas because first of all,

1576
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: that none of them make you skinny. All right, you're

1577
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: drinking tequila with other alcohol in there sometimes, And so yeah,

1578
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: I missed you all. Facebook dot Com slash Buck Sexton

1579
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: back safe and sound from my Latin American travels with

1580
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: the Secretary of State Pompeo, who, as I've been saying,

1581
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: is just a phenomenal guy. I mean, Pompeo and bar

1582
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: are two of the best administration officials and the two

1583
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: probably the two most important jobs you have other than

1584
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense. I guess you got three in there,

1585
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: but those are top three. I DJ and Secretary of State.

1586
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: I think you got to put that up there. But

1587
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Pompeio was a very nice guy and just you can

1588
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: just tell to everyone who's working with him at State.

1589
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Even though a lot of them are you can tell

1590
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: a lot of them are Democrat career State Department personnel.

1591
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: Everyone really respects this guy. He's the real deal. All right.

1592
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: We have Michael who writes buck. I will buy and

1593
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,759
Speaker 1: enjoy any book you write. However, I wish you're writing

1594
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 1: a history book instead of a political one. Shields High. Well, Michael,

1595
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm writing a book on socialism, my friend. So there

1596
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: you go. There's a there's a hint, and it will

1597
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: be out by the end of this year. I am

1598
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm a mean, lean writing machine these days. So there

1599
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: will be a book on socialism. It's going to be

1600
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: pretty pretty dope as the kids. Actually, I think the

1601
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: kids used to say that like the nineties, but I'm

1602
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 1: a child of the nineties. I'd like to think I'm

1603
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: a child the eighties, but don't really remember the eighties.

1604
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm really a nineties kid. So yeah, I think you

1605
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: will enjoy the book. Hopefully please do buy it. I

1606
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: would love to do a pop history thing. What I'd

1607
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: really want to do would be to collaborate with a

1608
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: with a career historian on one of the areas that

1609
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: I like and just try to help craft a story.

1610
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I've got some ideas for that. Also,

1611
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: I want to go back and finish more episodes of

1612
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 1: Shields Hie. But I think the way we're going to

1613
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: have to do that is We're gonna do shield Tie.

1614
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: But I want to figure out a way to make

1615
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: it like a download where you can it's like iTunes,

1616
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: so you just download and you pay for the show.

1617
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 1: It'll be like a dollar a show or something. But

1618
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: we need to find some way because otherwise I can't

1619
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: justify to the bosses me taking time offline to do

1620
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 1: a show. If it's just all because I'm already doing

1621
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: one free radio show to do another free radio shows.

1622
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: It's tough. So yeah, but yes, there will be a book.

1623
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: It's I mean, the book is it's being written. I'm

1624
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: not just talking about it. Conceptually, I'm already chapters into it.

1625
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: So there you go. Seth right, Ben and raheem rocked it.

1626
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: By the way, I picked up Basic Economics by Thomas

1627
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 1: soul after you mentioned him a while back. It's crazy

1628
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: to learn all the details on why price control is

1629
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 1: such a bad idea. My mind has been blown at

1630
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 1: least a dozen times, and I'm only fifty six pages in.

1631
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,600
Speaker 1: This should be required reading in school. Well, you know,

1632
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 1: part of the reading that I've been doing lately, because

1633
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: I just pick things that I want to read, and

1634
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 1: I usually have three or four books at a time

1635
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: that I jump between reading. Almost done with Hazzoni's The

1636
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Virtue of Nationalism. I know he's been popping up a

1637
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: lot these days here in America. He is an Israeli

1638
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 1: scholar and author. I've also I've almost made my way

1639
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: through a book that is called The Well. It's it's

1640
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 1: the Twelve Who Ruled, and it's about the French Revolution,

1641
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: the period of the Terror Terroi. It's kind of hard

1642
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 1: to say Roi, but are really a brutal and bloody

1643
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: and chilling period of really the the rise of the

1644
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: terror under the Committee of Public Safety during the French

1645
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: Revolution from seventeen. It's seventeen ninety three is the year

1646
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 1: that this book is focused on, and it is about

1647
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: the committee that's that's the twelve. Those were the twelve

1648
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 1: who ruled. And it's fascinating. Now, I'm gonna tell you,

1649
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 1: this book is dense. It's over four hundred some odd pages,

1650
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 1: but it's very it's wordy, it's long, it's been around

1651
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 1: for a while, but it's a fascinating look into how

1652
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: these really these mid level country lawyers, these middle class

1653
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 1: legal bureaucrats, became the single most powerful entity. This committee,

1654
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: the Committee of Public Safety, that was really the executive

1655
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 1: committee of the Convention of the French Revolution, the National Convention,

1656
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: and how they would convince themselves all for the all

1657
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: for the cause, all for the revolution, folks. It's so

1658
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: much a preview of the terrors and the atrocities of

1659
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union and in the Bolshevik Revolution and what

1660
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 1: happened there. You can just draw all of these parallels.

1661
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: The French Revolution was a revolution from the left. That

1662
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: becomes very clear when you see one. There's an enormous

1663
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: war on both the church. They hated the church they're

1664
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: renaming Catholic churches, the temples of Reason, and also desecrated

1665
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 1: churches executed took real delight. Some of the committee members,

1666
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 1: in particular the French Revolution took real pleasure in executing

1667
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 1: and in some cases torturing priests and nuns. So there's

1668
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: a war on the church and a war on the

1669
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: individual as well. If you stood in the way of

1670
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 1: the revolution, you were effectively a counter revolutionary. And counter

1671
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: revolutionary was a term that the Soviets would apply to

1672
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: anyone who stood in the way of the Central Committee

1673
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: or the Polite Borough and the Communist Party, and really

1674
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: Stalin because there was a centralization beyond just the Committee

1675
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 1: in the Soviet Union, where it became a dictatorship at totalitarianism.

1676
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: In the French, at the height of the terror of

1677
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: the French Revolution, you had a dictatorship of twelve essentially. Well, okay,

1678
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: why am I talking about this other than just I'm

1679
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: fashioned by this book and the parallels to so much

1680
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: of what we've seen from the left. And also it's

1681
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of early socialist class warfare tendencies, a

1682
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 1: lot of class warfare discussion that is a preview of

1683
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: Marx in seventeen ninety three in the French Revolution, so

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01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:22,600
Speaker 1: much hatred of not just the aristocrats, but the bourgeoisie,

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01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: the middle tier shop owners, and that's where you get

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01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 1: to the command of the commands that they instituted regarding

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01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: the economy, and you had an effort at price control.

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01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 1: In fact, there was a law that was passed called

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01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: the Law of the Maximum or the general maximum, and

1690
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: the Law of the Maximum was just a price control

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01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: mechanism that you could depending on the severity and also

1692
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: the political connections you had, and if anyone was trying

1693
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: to get you, you could be executed for hoarding. They

1694
01:34:55,439 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: actually had a part of this period was a ban

1695
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 1: on people trying to keep things for themselves as the

1696
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: prices rose, and then try to try to profit off

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01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 1: of them, and had severe punishments. But they had all

1698
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: the problems instituting price controls that even modern economies do.

1699
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 1: The moment that you instude price controls, all of a sudden,

1700
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 1: there are shortages, and that's because people cannot create those goods. Right.

1701
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: The market sets the price. The government can say the

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01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: price is something else, but the market sets the price.

1703
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 1: So when the government says, oh, the price needs to

1704
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: be lower than what the market will will bear. Then

1705
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: you have shortages because you won't have the producers won't produce.

1706
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: They can't produce in many cases for the and this

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01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:43,560
Speaker 1: is what led to some of the worst economic catastrophe

1708
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: in Venezuela as well in recent years. But this was

1709
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:48,759
Speaker 1: a problem in seventeen ninety three. This was a problem

1710
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 1: in France, which was one part of this book that

1711
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: it gets into. It gets into that I think is

1712
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: so interesting is that our revolution. You know, America was

1713
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of colonies. We were not a rich country

1714
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: when we took on the bridge at the French Revolution,

1715
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 1: one of the reagons, they were able to kind of

1716
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: gut it out, you know, they're able to just the

1717
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: revolutionaries would stay until the rise of Napoleon, and a

1718
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: true dictatorship of an individual was because the country had

1719
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:17,959
Speaker 1: so much wealth to be pillaged that even the terrible decisions.

1720
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: And this is folks, this is for me. I'd like

1721
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 1: to say, it's something I wish I didn't say it

1722
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 1: this way, but this, for me is a cautionary tale

1723
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 1: about what it would be like in this country. Because

1724
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: we're so wealthy, it would take a long time out

1725
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 1: a lot for us to be so pillaged that we

1726
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 1: become a dysfunction economically, a dysfunctional in poor country. And

1727
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: all along the way, the people who were destroying the

1728
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: economy living off the fruits of our labor previously built up,

1729
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 1: living off of the accumulated wealth in this country. You

1730
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: could have idiot socialists in charge for a long time

1731
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 1: and they'd say, oh, no, it's fine, it's fine. Look,

1732
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: we can pay for this. It's fine. By the time

1733
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: it's not fine, because you've empty the treasuries entirely. You

1734
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: find then it's too late. Right in the French revol

1735
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't our founding fathers did not have

1736
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 1: the luxury, if you will, it would have been a

1737
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 1: bad thing. But of of saying we're gonna seize all

1738
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 1: church property, we're gonna seize all government assets and land

1739
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 1: and and these are these are very valuable things that

1740
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: we could profit from on the international market, that we

1741
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: could use to buy gunpowder. And you know, we we

1742
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 1: didn't have that backing. We don't. We had ideas and

1743
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 1: I won't get into the how our revolution is different

1744
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: from theirs right now, But the French Revolution was able

1745
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 1: to sustain itself because they cannibalize the entire French state

1746
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,719
Speaker 1: and they and it was the wealthiest country in the world,

1747
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: or at least the wealthiest country in the Western world

1748
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 1: at that time, so that that went a long way.

1749
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 1: So that's anyway, that's just but price control says, See,

1750
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: you got be on price controls because this is what

1751
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 1: I'm twelve who ruled. I'm reading about it. Oh man,

1752
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: there's some stuff in there. There's a guy who was

1753
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 1: one of the essentially one of the pro consoles that

1754
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: the French recause remember the French Revolution. They are surrounded

1755
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: on all sides by hostile powers that are trying to

1756
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: pick off pieces of France and of trying to extend

1757
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:19,600
Speaker 1: their own empires, the Prussians, the Austrians, the Dutch, the English,

1758
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 1: and you know, they also had descent and insurrection from

1759
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 1: within the campaign in the Vonndeis or the Volndeans fighting

1760
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 1: against them, as well as other areas that were taking

1761
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 1: up arms against them. But so they sent out these

1762
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 1: proconsuls who were given absolute authority to do whatever they

1763
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: wanted to do, whatever they felt they had to do,

1764
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 1: to suppress and revolutionize the area. And I mean this

1765
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 1: guy Carrier, he went out and he instituted this whole

1766
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: policy of mass drowning. They took all these captives from

1767
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: the Volundei, which is in western France, as an area

1768
01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 1: that had rebelled against the revolutionary government, the government of

1769
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 1: the sounds Culotte or the san Coulot. Sorry I should

1770
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 1: not pronounce the s at the end. And this guy

1771
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 1: instituted mass drownings and they knew about it in Paris,

1772
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh well, just taking people out in

1773
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 1: chains in boats by the hundreds and just going okay

1774
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 1: and just drowning everybody. I mean, that's one way to go.

1775
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: Real savage, savage brutality, really nasty stuff. Anyway, Price controls

1776
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 1: never work. They never work. It's a terrible idea, and

1777
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 1: it's basic economics as to why they don't work. More

1778
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 1: roll call on the flip side, all right, more roll

1779
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,799
Speaker 1: call here, Harry Rights, Hey buck, Since you often mentioned

1780
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:39,759
Speaker 1: King Geoffrey first of his name, have you read Jonathan

1781
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: Swift seventeen twenty three essay A modest proposal. Here's a

1782
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 1: modest proposal, Allah, Joffrey, save America a lot of money.

1783
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 1: Instead of building an expensive thousand mile thirty foot high wall,

1784
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 1: put a ten foot interval row of six foot spikes

1785
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: along the border, topped with the heads of MS thirteen

1786
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 1: members as a warning. I think that would work. She'll

1787
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 1: tie Harry, Harry, come on where not. I know you're

1788
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:10,480
Speaker 1: being you're you're being a little provocative here, but obviously

1789
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 1: we're not going to be head people and put their

1790
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 1: heads almost but I know you know that. Um, you're

1791
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: just being literary. And oh, Harry, you you imp uh Erica? Right?

1792
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: Can we stop calling them the squad and start calling

1793
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: them the Heathers because they definitely treat American citizens like

1794
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: we are. Martha dump truck. Um, I have what is

1795
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 1: the reference to the Heathers? Producer, Mike, do you know

1796
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,639
Speaker 1: you're you know, Yeah, it's a it's an old movie.

1797
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: I forget who's in it, but um, have you ever

1798
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: seen it Heathers? No? I think that's what THERR firing too.

1799
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: I could be wrong to Rider movie. I defer, I

1800
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 1: defer to you on this, and yeah, it sounds like

1801
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 1: I one to own a Rider movie. She she was

1802
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 1: in a lot of a lot of really boring movies

1803
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 1: that do not hold up. I'll just put that out there.

1804
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 1: David Rights Rangers lead the way, Buck, I agree, bring

1805
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 1: back the firing squad. Painless, instantaneous, doesn't require expensive doctors

1806
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:11,799
Speaker 1: or sterile accoutrement. Yeah, David, I think a firing squad

1807
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 1: is a much I mean, I think it's just a

1808
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: much more humane and I just think it's a better

1809
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: way to go if we're going to be executing people

1810
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 1: than lethal injection. I don't like this to be a

1811
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 1: medical procedure. It shouldn't be a medical procedure. Doctors doctor

1812
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: should in my opinion, including when people want it to

1813
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:32,799
Speaker 1: be this way, doctor should never be in the business

1814
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: of killing people. So and I know that generally they

1815
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 1: don't have people are gonna say, oh, Buck, they don't

1816
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 1: have doctors. Yeah, But even if they don't have a

1817
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 1: doctor actually administer into the vein the various concoctions, I

1818
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 1: forget what they are that I've read about it a

1819
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 1: bunch of times. To stop someone's heart and to kill them,

1820
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: it feels like a medical procedure. And I don't think

1821
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: the state should be in the business of making any

1822
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 1: medical procedure that is killing anyone. And I know a

1823
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: lot of you are saying, but Buck, what about this

1824
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: and that? And there? I know there are you know,

1825
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of medical procedures that are lethal, most

1826
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 1: notably abortion. But nonetheless, I don't I think that fireing

1827
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 1: squad is better. Sean writes, Hello, Buck, Trump is great

1828
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: and you are refreshing, but AOC is downright depressing. By

1829
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: the way, keep up with your action movie quotes Sean

1830
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:25,639
Speaker 1: a real news fan from the beginning. Wow, thank you, Sean.

1831
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: That's really an honor that some of you guys started

1832
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 1: watching me when I was just figuring out how to

1833
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:33,759
Speaker 1: do this media thing some years ago now, oh gosh,

1834
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 1: seven or eight years ago, and that you've stayed with

1835
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 1: me all this time and still believe in what I do.

1836
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: And look, folks, when I say this stuff, I mean it.

1837
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: It's not any false humility. The fact that as many

1838
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 1: of you listen to this show every day as you do,

1839
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,680
Speaker 1: whether live on a radio station or on the podcast.

1840
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:52,640
Speaker 1: It's it's very special to me. It's very meaningful. I

1841
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 1: do miss it when I'm not doing the show, and

1842
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: especially given these days, I mean, I feel like everybody

1843
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: and their grandmother has a podcast now. It's amazing. I

1844
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 1: don't know why everybody thinks that they not everyone thinks

1845
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 1: they're going to be a writer. You know, some people

1846
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 1: know that I'm not really writing is not my thing.

1847
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: I have other skills. Everyone thinks they can do a

1848
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 1: podcast all of a sudden, it's not true. Radio I

1849
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 1: would I would offer you is actually harder than than

1850
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: doing video and TV. So if you're just doing a

1851
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 1: podcast for all the people out there, that look some people.

1852
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: If it's a hobby or you just enjoy it, that's fine.

1853
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about everyone who thinks this is going

1854
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: to be a business. I'm just like, what this person

1855
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: is an interesting to talk to you for five minutes

1856
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 1: in person. I can't imagine them having an hour or

1857
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 1: two hour long podcast. Marie Rights, WHOA, this is really long,

1858
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Maria Kan I will read this, but I cannot read

1859
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 1: it on Eric, thank you so much for sending it

1860
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:48,440
Speaker 1: in though. Here we go. Josh right Buck what PPND

1861
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 1: user endors? I alread you talking about VPN on your show,

1862
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 1: but can't find your endorsement. Also, you do have a

1863
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 1: site that has all your endorsements or sponsors. I could

1864
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 1: not find them, but I think it'd be valuable. Thanks again,

1865
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 1: Kat and Josh Shields High Well. Thank you Captain Josh,

1866
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if we I don't think we have

1867
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 1: a site where all our sponsors are listed. That's not

1868
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 1: a bad idea. They maybe we could put them up

1869
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 1: on the buck setson show with all of our various links.

1870
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 1: I think that's that'd be a good move. So I'll

1871
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,679
Speaker 1: have producer. Mike is the one who makes things happen.

1872
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's he's the guy who gets things done.

1873
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: So I'll just put that on his plate, which is

1874
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 1: already very stacked. High team. Great to be back. I'm

1875
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 1: here every day this week. I'll talk to you again tomorrow.

1876
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 1: She'll tie