1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,160
Speaker 1: Hi everyone, we heard you. We are so excited to

2
00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,600
Speaker 1: share some exciting news for you. Go ahead, we got

3
00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,120
Speaker 1: We had so many sweet d ms from people saying

4
00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,360
Speaker 1: they weren't going to be able to make it to

5
00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,760
Speaker 1: Drama Queens Live. What could we do? Code to UK,

6
00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,880
Speaker 1: come to Kansas, code to us. Please come to l A.

7
00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,680
Speaker 1: Well we are. We are coming to your home wherever

8
00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,360
Speaker 1: you are, because our live stream of the New York

9
00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,360
Speaker 1: show is available to you on October twenty at five pm.

10
00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,440
Speaker 1: Tickets are on sale right now, y'all at Drama Queens

11
00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,879
Speaker 1: o t h dot com. You can get tickets to

12
00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,879
Speaker 1: the live stream. Are amazing team at my Heart has

13
00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,760
Speaker 1: made this globally available because we want you guys to

14
00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,520
Speaker 1: be there with us, whether your butts are in those

15
00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,800
Speaker 1: theater seats or in your most comfortable sea here at Family.

16
00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,479
Speaker 1: We want you with us, and you guys are going

17
00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,440
Speaker 1: to have the best of both shows because we have

18
00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,880
Speaker 1: different guests that each one of our New York City shows.

19
00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,080
Speaker 1: So you were going to get Barbara Allen Woods, Daphne's

20
00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,760
Speaker 1: and Ega, tie R Hilton and Matt bar All for

21
00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,640
Speaker 1: what twenty three dollars? Hey do it? It's our lucky number.

22
00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That's what I'm saying. Visit

23
00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,760
Speaker 1: Drama Queens ot h dot com to get your tickets

24
00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,200
Speaker 1: to the live stream today. First of all, you don't

25
00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,880
Speaker 1: we all about that high school drama? Girl Drama, Girl

26
00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,040
Speaker 1: all about them high school queens. We'll take you for

27
00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,000
Speaker 1: a ride in our comic Girl Cheering for the Right Drama,

28
00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,160
Speaker 1: Queens up Girl Fashion. But you'll tough, girl. You could

29
00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,199
Speaker 1: sit with us. Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queen's Drama,

30
00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,440
Speaker 1: John mc Queen's Drama, Queens Get Sun kissed Him. Let's

31
00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,800
Speaker 1: I know, Let's kicks to a club? Is this us starting?

32
00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,199
Speaker 1: Are we recording right now at the top of the episode.

33
00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,080
Speaker 1: This might be the top of the episode. You know what.

34
00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,760
Speaker 1: That's why our listeners like it here because we're honest. Honestly,

35
00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,640
Speaker 1: I think I think you guys hearing us bitching is

36
00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,880
Speaker 1: that's the moment we should start with because it is authentic. Um,

37
00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:10,120
Speaker 1: you guys, this episode what Yeah? Lee wrote on friends

38
00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,679
Speaker 1: and when we can take this out if we want to.

39
00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,760
Speaker 1: But fy i, he wrote on Friends. He wrote on

40
00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,920
Speaker 1: he just wrote He's all that the news, She's all

41
00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,280
Speaker 1: that remake. Hm um, but I'm a cheerleader with what's

42
00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:28,480
Speaker 1: her face? Leone? Yeah, it does feel like a Mark

43
00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,280
Speaker 1: sabotage job then, because I like that. Yeah, he's probably

44
00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,040
Speaker 1: I think he's probably a pretty good writer, but you know,

45
00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,079
Speaker 1: and get over it. That fun one with Kirsten Dunst. Oh. Yeah,

46
00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,519
Speaker 1: so it feels like then the the fun scenes were

47
00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,600
Speaker 1: probably Lee and then all the weird stuff was kind

48
00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,560
Speaker 1: of cut and pasted in the past, like like you

49
00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,960
Speaker 1: like walking into somebody's house who has to remember all

50
00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,359
Speaker 1: the things they have to do in a week, and

51
00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,239
Speaker 1: there's just post it's all over the mir my office. Yeah,

52
00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,799
Speaker 1: you're just like, okay, so you can absorb all the

53
00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,959
Speaker 1: things at the same time, but it's uh, they don't

54
00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,639
Speaker 1: really cohesively go together. And yeah, if you don't get

55
00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,040
Speaker 1: him in order, you don't have a story. Right, there's

56
00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,520
Speaker 1: no story. It's just pieces. Joy give us the rundown

57
00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,320
Speaker 1: of this episode. This okay, all right, we do have

58
00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,600
Speaker 1: like an official rundown here. It is so episode eighteen

59
00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,200
Speaker 1: of season three when it isn't like it should be

60
00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:34,680
Speaker 1: kind of like this episode. Uh. It aired April five,

61
00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,360
Speaker 1: two six. The group heads to Rachel's cabin as they

62
00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,520
Speaker 1: try to get back to normal. Nathan wants to give

63
00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,280
Speaker 1: Hayley perfect proposal. Pete Wentz surprises Peyton and hangs with

64
00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,360
Speaker 1: the crew. Rachel and Brooks rivalry reignites with a secret

65
00:03:52,520 --> 00:04:01,000
Speaker 1: cabinet and it sounds like the magic show of the

66
00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:16,040
Speaker 1: wardrobe we needed for Coats So Cold. Um where am

67
00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:22,160
Speaker 1: I gives Rachel for the time capsule and meanwhile back

68
00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,160
Speaker 1: in tree Hill, Karen is still angry over keithstaf The

69
00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,520
Speaker 1: scene we all decided was the only reason to watch

70
00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,640
Speaker 1: this episode really, um, because she's such a beast of

71
00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,480
Speaker 1: an actress. That was amazing, But we'll get there. I'm sure. Um.

72
00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,720
Speaker 1: We didn't hate it. It was fine. It was like

73
00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,160
Speaker 1: this is I mean, it was fun. It was just

74
00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,200
Speaker 1: a little like what it's just jointed. It had were

75
00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,800
Speaker 1: very cute and we got our iconic By the way,

76
00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,960
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that the iconic moment of the

77
00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,680
Speaker 1: four of us girls and Pete doing our makeup was

78
00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,560
Speaker 1: just a one or it's a momush scene. I was like, oh,

79
00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,920
Speaker 1: there's no scene there, and it's like one of our

80
00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,640
Speaker 1: favorite memories, which feels insane. There were things that were

81
00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,320
Speaker 1: very sweet but man, this one we an this was

82
00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,760
Speaker 1: a big episode. They had come they had entertainment tonight

83
00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,680
Speaker 1: come that that that's where that photo came from. Not entertainment,

84
00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,839
Speaker 1: was that it there was some er tape of Weekly

85
00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,520
Speaker 1: maybe some big magazine was there. That's where that photo

86
00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,400
Speaker 1: came from. There was like a big magazine on set,

87
00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,720
Speaker 1: and they came to do these They came to do photos.

88
00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:34,280
Speaker 1: You know, this isn't so familiar, no, because so for us.

89
00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,600
Speaker 1: The thing that was glaring about this episode is that

90
00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,600
Speaker 1: the dialogue and some of the writing was like what

91
00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,160
Speaker 1: it was like student film? Not good? Yeah, first time

92
00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,440
Speaker 1: right or not good? The episode also couldn't decide what

93
00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,400
Speaker 1: it wanted to be, like are we going to a

94
00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,760
Speaker 1: cabin in the woods to go a t ving or

95
00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,960
Speaker 1: are we going to a club night to you know,

96
00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,240
Speaker 1: be underage drinkers in a bar? Like? Is it about DJs?

97
00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,920
Speaker 1: Is it about the wilderness? Like? And then there's poor

98
00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,600
Speaker 1: Pete Wentz, who you know is our contemporary and to repeat,

99
00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,960
Speaker 1: the nicest person, but had to play like a guy

100
00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,760
Speaker 1: in his twenties hitting out a high school girl talking

101
00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,000
Speaker 1: to her about how she can't have tattoos because her

102
00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,600
Speaker 1: dad will be mad like, oh god, everything about this

103
00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,880
Speaker 1: was wrong. This one does not age well. Friends, It

104
00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,360
Speaker 1: just sure doesn't. I couldn't get over high schoolers sitting

105
00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,880
Speaker 1: around drinking wine, Like wine is on the list of

106
00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,640
Speaker 1: any high schooler in the world. They can't stand the

107
00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,920
Speaker 1: taste of that usually, I mean, kids are like, that's

108
00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,800
Speaker 1: like an acquired taste to your joy. I think a

109
00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,760
Speaker 1: large part of this episode was all promotional materials because

110
00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,040
Speaker 1: I had sun kissed in there. It had a very

111
00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,880
Speaker 1: famous rock star. We literally said you're a rock star

112
00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,600
Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy two times in this episode, just

113
00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,760
Speaker 1: to remind people at home. Um, you know, we had

114
00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,760
Speaker 1: all these kind of gimmicks happening in the episode. So

115
00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,840
Speaker 1: I feel like there was something happening promotional wise, like

116
00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,520
Speaker 1: there was like business happening behind the scenes. And it

117
00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,840
Speaker 1: does feel like, you know, Lee Fleming wrote this episode,

118
00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,120
Speaker 1: who has written a lot of very amazing scripts, not

119
00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,840
Speaker 1: even on our show, like other projects that are great

120
00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,600
Speaker 1: and fun and successful, and it it kind of feels

121
00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,280
Speaker 1: and you know, we're hypothesizing here, but it feels like

122
00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,080
Speaker 1: Lee turned in a script and then at the sort

123
00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,440
Speaker 1: of upper levels, it was like, well, we gotta put

124
00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,360
Speaker 1: this in, we gotta insert this, we gotta get people

125
00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:44,400
Speaker 1: sun kissed in, and suddenly it's like a collage project

126
00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:49,160
Speaker 1: that is not very good. Now, how many hot tub

127
00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,080
Speaker 1: scenes were there? I mean it was like, hell, I

128
00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,160
Speaker 1: was reading a letter in the hot tub. Joy and

129
00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,120
Speaker 1: I were in the hot tub. Bevan and Skills were

130
00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,360
Speaker 1: getting in the hot tub. Rachel and Mouth were in

131
00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,360
Speaker 1: the hot tub. Yeah, that's what I can remember. And

132
00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,040
Speaker 1: it killed me that. It just killed me. We had

133
00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,240
Speaker 1: that amazing lake location and they just put lucas in

134
00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,040
Speaker 1: Nathan on the boat fishing having a totally meaningless conversation

135
00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,120
Speaker 1: for like two seconds. That should have been I would

136
00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,120
Speaker 1: love to have either seen uh Skills in Bevan stuck

137
00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,280
Speaker 1: on the boat in the middle with no oars when

138
00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,200
Speaker 1: we get to watch their whole conversation the whole time,

139
00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,080
Speaker 1: or have Nathan proposed to Haley on the boat out

140
00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,080
Speaker 1: and the thing. You know, like, there could have been

141
00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,679
Speaker 1: something really meaningful with that location. It was so beautiful

142
00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,280
Speaker 1: and instead it just it did feel real. Yeah, but

143
00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,240
Speaker 1: you can't be in a bathing suit in the boat, Joy, Like,

144
00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,000
Speaker 1: they're not gonna get naked girls in the boat, So

145
00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,120
Speaker 1: let's just kick it back to the hot tub that

146
00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,360
Speaker 1: our art department had to put in the front yard

147
00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,440
Speaker 1: of that beautiful house. By the way, My favorite thing

148
00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,360
Speaker 1: that happened with the hot tub in this episode. It

149
00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,120
Speaker 1: wasn't even used, but Hillary, you and Pete went walking

150
00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,679
Speaker 1: out of the house and you say, thanks for going

151
00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,360
Speaker 1: on this walk with me. My doctor says, it's really

152
00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,400
Speaker 1: good therapy for my leg. You guys walk past the

153
00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,719
Speaker 1: hot tub like you're gonna go into the woods, and

154
00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,679
Speaker 1: then you sit on the swing. I'm like, they're not

155
00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,920
Speaker 1: going on a walk. They're not doing anything rehab for

156
00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,880
Speaker 1: her leg. Who made these decisions? Terrible script, hated it,

157
00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,560
Speaker 1: hated it all the way, and I feel so bad

158
00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,440
Speaker 1: for Pete Wentz. Poor Pete is my that's my suggestion

159
00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,720
Speaker 1: for this episode's title, because you know his record label

160
00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,520
Speaker 1: and his manager and like his whole team. We're like, yes,

161
00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,319
Speaker 1: you're the heart throb in the band, you're the cute one,

162
00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna put you on this hit teen drama

163
00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,559
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go kiss one of the lead girls

164
00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,199
Speaker 1: on the show, and it's gonna be great exposure and

165
00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,079
Speaker 1: this is gonna be great. The fans will love it.

166
00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,080
Speaker 1: They're going to love it. That sweet man showed up

167
00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,400
Speaker 1: and they gave him dialogue that an experienced actor would

168
00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:01,040
Speaker 1: have difficulty making natural because it was so like clunky.

169
00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,480
Speaker 1: I had trouble with it, certainly. And then they just

170
00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,880
Speaker 1: expect us to start sucking each other's faces. And if

171
00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,319
Speaker 1: you looked that scene on the Swing, we don't touch

172
00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,240
Speaker 1: each other. My hands are in my lap, his hands

173
00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,079
Speaker 1: are in his lap. We're just like, how do we

174
00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:23,120
Speaker 1: It was like sixth graders kissing. It was well, and

175
00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,800
Speaker 1: you said it, you know, I want to caveat this

176
00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,480
Speaker 1: by saying like we're all friends and we love Pete,

177
00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,360
Speaker 1: and so we're laughing at how absurd and embarrassing this

178
00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,000
Speaker 1: episode is. But also when we were watching it, Hillary,

179
00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,679
Speaker 1: you were like, dude, they wrote him his language is

180
00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,439
Speaker 1: like grooming, Like this is how grown up creepy men

181
00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,839
Speaker 1: talked to actual teenage girls, like who did this to him?

182
00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,800
Speaker 1: And who did this to us? And who made all

183
00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,360
Speaker 1: of us? Who? Again to remind everybody at home, like

184
00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,520
Speaker 1: we're all around the same age. But like the dynamic

185
00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,559
Speaker 1: on screen, it was so inappropriate. It like my Mike,

186
00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,719
Speaker 1: I have like the creepy Crawley's on the insides of

187
00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,679
Speaker 1: my skin. Oh god. The fact that no one caught it,

188
00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,079
Speaker 1: No one know. One person in the entire chain of

189
00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,880
Speaker 1: command from the studio down was like, hey, guys, do

190
00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,439
Speaker 1: we have any notes on this? Is? This is really inappropriate?

191
00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,080
Speaker 1: Like you you guys, layd In Ben You being like, well,

192
00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,959
Speaker 1: how's it gonna work because I'm in high school? And

193
00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:31,439
Speaker 1: He's like, we'll figure it out. What I mean, we all,

194
00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I kissed older boys when I was in

195
00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,240
Speaker 1: high school, but it was a different time. We didn't

196
00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,599
Speaker 1: know any about it, didn't you didn't Yeah, well you

197
00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,599
Speaker 1: were at that cool old girls school. I mean, I

198
00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,480
Speaker 1: don't condone it. Um. And I think there was a

199
00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,080
Speaker 1: lot of blurred lines on our show because we had

200
00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,240
Speaker 1: a boss that was trying to kiss some of us.

201
00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,120
Speaker 1: So why shouldn't some of us be kissing a guy

202
00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,839
Speaker 1: in their twenties? You know what I mean? Well, and

203
00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,679
Speaker 1: I do think and I know we talked about this

204
00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,520
Speaker 1: the first time Pete came on the show, and the

205
00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,839
Speaker 1: whole like Pete wentz, the character and Peyton flirtation began,

206
00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,600
Speaker 1: Like it didn't register as weird I think to us then,

207
00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,400
Speaker 1: because we are actual peers, like we're all the same age,

208
00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,959
Speaker 1: but when you watch it back and you go, oh man,

209
00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,600
Speaker 1: they were having him act his real age and having

210
00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,920
Speaker 1: us act sixteen, Like I hate it. I hate it.

211
00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,640
Speaker 1: He could do better, frankly, like a grown up woman.

212
00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, Um, I had a twenty eight year old

213
00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,839
Speaker 1: boyfriend when I was eighteen. Of course you did, joy,

214
00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,240
Speaker 1: of course you did. Were also you were eighteen at least. Yeah,

215
00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,880
Speaker 1: I was eighteen. You didn't have a twenty eight year

216
00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,800
Speaker 1: old boyfriend like driving up to pick you up from

217
00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,360
Speaker 1: high school. Now, my dad would have put an end

218
00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:57,000
Speaker 1: to that swiftly. Yeah. I went on one day with

219
00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,079
Speaker 1: a guy whose age I did not know, and we it.

220
00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,839
Speaker 1: He took me to like a bar for dinner, and

221
00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,040
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a strange choice for dinner.

222
00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,480
Speaker 1: We're just gonna eat dinner right because I'm not drinking.

223
00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,959
Speaker 1: And then we went to like a playground afterwards, and

224
00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,920
Speaker 1: he legitimately was like, do you know hold I am?

225
00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, layground on a bed, layground, you guys,

226
00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,959
Speaker 1: Sterling Park was a wild spot to grow up. And

227
00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,520
Speaker 1: he's like, do you know how old I am? And

228
00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, like in your twenties,

229
00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,360
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm twenty eight, and I remember thinking,

230
00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,719
Speaker 1: oh god, oh no, I'm so sorry for you. I

231
00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,559
Speaker 1: felt so bad for like there was a kidding thing

232
00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,199
Speaker 1: like he did. You felt bad because you thought he

233
00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,839
Speaker 1: didn't know that you were in high school. No, he

234
00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,599
Speaker 1: knew that I was in high school. I felt bad, like,

235
00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,599
Speaker 1: oh my god, like, well, girls your age not date you,

236
00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,959
Speaker 1: like I don't really know you that well, so it's

237
00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,040
Speaker 1: hard for me to figure out the why they're but um,

238
00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Oh no, and um yeah, so for

239
00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,760
Speaker 1: girls in high school, if there are any listening to

240
00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,920
Speaker 1: our show, don't they don't. Don't. Don't do that, don't

241
00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,319
Speaker 1: do that. It puts me in like the part of

242
00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,120
Speaker 1: me that responds like the dad from Clueless. That's like

243
00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,920
Speaker 1: I got a forty five in a shovel and no

244
00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,680
Speaker 1: one would miss it. Like I'm just like I will this.

245
00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,680
Speaker 1: We're we're gonna, we're gonna cause dangerous trouble. Here's me

246
00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,520
Speaker 1: as a mom now too, when I start thinking about

247
00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,360
Speaker 1: Maria dating and oh my god, well that joint getting

248
00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,520
Speaker 1: to that age, I know, I would you has Maria

249
00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,000
Speaker 1: seen the show? Has she ever seen Montrehal said, yeah,

250
00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,640
Speaker 1: like does she know that your character got married in

251
00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,880
Speaker 1: high school. Yeah, she doesn't. She's seen it, like walking

252
00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,160
Speaker 1: in the room when we're doing our thing, but she doesn't.

253
00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let her watch Montreal Hill. She's too

254
00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,760
Speaker 1: young for that in my opinion. In our house, that's

255
00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,760
Speaker 1: that's the rule. But um, yeah, when I was eighteen,

256
00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,400
Speaker 1: I I mean eighteen seventeen, what's the difference. But the

257
00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,560
Speaker 1: difference is that there is an actual age limit, and

258
00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,120
Speaker 1: that's important. But emotionally you're still kind of in the

259
00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,520
Speaker 1: same place when you're an eighteen year old business and

260
00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,280
Speaker 1: he had no business dating me, and it was like

261
00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,720
Speaker 1: really clear that he was just trying to you know,

262
00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,240
Speaker 1: I will say, it's like I think about it a lot,

263
00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, because we've talked about your brain isn't done

264
00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,160
Speaker 1: developing until you're twenty six. You're not allowed to order

265
00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,240
Speaker 1: a drink in a bar till you're twenty one. I'm like,

266
00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,240
Speaker 1: how come grown ups are allowed to date eighteen year olds?

267
00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't like it? Yeah, I like it well, but

268
00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,480
Speaker 1: I r L. We really like Pete Wentz And honestly,

269
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,040
Speaker 1: for for what a ship show this script was, it

270
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,560
Speaker 1: was really fun to go to the woods and be

271
00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,680
Speaker 1: out at that house together and and shoot like like

272
00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,240
Speaker 1: the scene where we all are playing never have I

273
00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,560
Speaker 1: ever and it and the whole like brooking yourself thing

274
00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,480
Speaker 1: comes out. I was watching us, and I was just

275
00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,560
Speaker 1: like tickled by it because we're genuinely laughing and all directing,

276
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,520
Speaker 1: like we were having fun in the scenes. That tracked definitely,

277
00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,240
Speaker 1: and they were. We were shooting nights too, we were

278
00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,760
Speaker 1: late nights, so that was fun being in a cabin

279
00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,240
Speaker 1: like on a new location up late, just hanging out

280
00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,640
Speaker 1: with each other. It kind of felt like we were

281
00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,320
Speaker 1: at camp together because we were away at a different

282
00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,640
Speaker 1: place that we had never been to before and having

283
00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,400
Speaker 1: Lee and Antoine and Bevan with us, like it was

284
00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,800
Speaker 1: just so fun. We didn't have our normal like getaway

285
00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,880
Speaker 1: spots because we were all kind of in there together.

286
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,040
Speaker 1: So you know, there was a green there was a

287
00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,440
Speaker 1: green room, but it was like our chairs were all

288
00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,400
Speaker 1: different in different places. We all just kind of ended

289
00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,120
Speaker 1: up hanging out around the same area while other people

290
00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,360
Speaker 1: were doing their scenes instead of disappearing into our trailers. Um.

291
00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,960
Speaker 1: I remember having I don't know what the conversation was,

292
00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,200
Speaker 1: but I remember that location was was one of the

293
00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,560
Speaker 1: only time James and I had like a really kind

294
00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,679
Speaker 1: of long, meaningful conversation, um, because most of the time

295
00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,320
Speaker 1: we were just working and he wouldn't like, you know,

296
00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,000
Speaker 1: well yeah, so again, I don't remember what it was.

297
00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,560
Speaker 1: I just remember sitting in that living room, like just

298
00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,440
Speaker 1: hanging out while somebody else is doing a scene, and

299
00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,640
Speaker 1: we had a really nice long chat and I was like, uh,

300
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,960
Speaker 1: just you know, always any time you talk to James,

301
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,000
Speaker 1: it just reaffirms how much you love him, right well, yeah,

302
00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,119
Speaker 1: because he's so calm. And that's how Nathan is in

303
00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,200
Speaker 1: this episode. He's like removed from the rest of the group.

304
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,240
Speaker 1: The rest of us are being super fun extra, you know,

305
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,040
Speaker 1: and there's like hijinks everywhere, you know, and he's pulling

306
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,320
Speaker 1: his own hijinks. Nathan is becoming more and more like

307
00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:49,560
Speaker 1: real life James, like more reserved, more mature, a little quieter,

308
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:56,119
Speaker 1: less bravado. Once he ditched Tim, you know where was

309
00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,680
Speaker 1: Tim in this episode? That honestly would have been fun.

310
00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,760
Speaker 1: We needed him get fighted would have been really fun. Yeah,

311
00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean this was you know, this was around when

312
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,960
Speaker 1: Brett started working and they started getting the higher ups

313
00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,800
Speaker 1: got mad at him, and it's it's sad to think that, Like,

314
00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, in our early twenties, we had grown ups

315
00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,800
Speaker 1: like being retaliatory with us because we were curious about

316
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,919
Speaker 1: the world and wanted to work on other sets. Oh

317
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 1: the horror, it's so dumb with embarrassing honestly for that.

318
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,960
Speaker 1: Do you imagine any of us doing that today to

319
00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,120
Speaker 1: a child like twentysomething, Yeah, and being like, how dare

320
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,560
Speaker 1: you you want to go do another movie? Like I'm

321
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,919
Speaker 1: gonna punish you. It's so, oh my god, it's so embarrassed,

322
00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 1: really really weird. It's interesting to check ourselves now that

323
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,480
Speaker 1: we are the age that we are, because we are

324
00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,880
Speaker 1: in the same position like producing things and putting things

325
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,000
Speaker 1: out there into the world, and we have employees that

326
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,800
Speaker 1: are in their early twenties, and the idea of of

327
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 1: that kind of ownership is super strange. UM. And you

328
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,000
Speaker 1: see it in this episode, you know, like like Danielle's

329
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,639
Speaker 1: character is vilified um as a means to separate her

330
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 1: from everyone else. And I feel like Danielle was oftentimes

331
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 1: like separated from everyone else, you know, cut her from

332
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,480
Speaker 1: the herd so you can get her attention yourself. UM,

333
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 1: Because what was happening during this whole sun Kissed campaign

334
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 1: is that we were having to go to sun Kissed

335
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 1: parties and they would send our boss and they would

336
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 1: send some of us. And I went to one with

337
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,440
Speaker 1: Lee and Danil right during this time, because that's when

338
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 1: this storyline was like blowing up with them. And it

339
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 1: was a weekend of hell in Miami with like our

340
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 1: box crying in my hotel room and Danille like barricading

341
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 1: or even a room, and like craziness. Um, and so

342
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: then we would have to come to set and act

343
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 1: you know normal. Um. Yeah, it was just it was

344
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: there were so many things going on behind the scenes

345
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: at this time. I think that's what I remember more

346
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 1: like I didn't remember shooting that club scene in this episode,

347
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 1: but I remember all like the bat ship stuff going on. Yeah,

348
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: the sense memory I have. Yeah, I mean this was

349
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 1: a rough year for all of us, Like season three

350
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 1: was pretty brutal, but like favorite subject matter why for me? Yeah,

351
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: which is so interesting, But it it is wild to

352
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 1: look back at it now and just think I cannot

353
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 1: imagine being a grown up. I'm behaving like that and

354
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, not to like toot our own horn, but

355
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 1: you guys am so proud of us like we made it.

356
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 1: We're pretty freaking well adjusted. Okay, okay, so we were

357
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: speaking of grown ups. Joy Um knows Paul better than

358
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: anyone on the planet, and Paul directed this episode and

359
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: we had a nice little laugh and a nice little

360
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: laugh because there are certain spots in this episode where

361
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: we can remember Paul's direction, because what's Paul's like, big note?

362
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: What's this big note? Always commit commit com material, commit

363
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: to the material. So he's not wrong, No, it's sometimes

364
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: he gets stuck and can't. It's like there's an intersection

365
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 1: between his sort of older brotherly need to make someone

366
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 1: see something like like learn you have to learn your

367
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: lesson right now. I'm going to force you to learn

368
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: it because nobody else will tell you the truth. And

369
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like, okay, I love you. But also everyone

370
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: goes on their own journey, like you can only say

371
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: what you say and then move on, Like you can't

372
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: force people to learn things the way you want them

373
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: to learn them anyway, tell your story. No, but I

374
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: this is what I would say. I would say. This

375
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: was a script where I felt like we were all saying, hey,

376
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: can we have this line? Change? Hey, can we like

377
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: change this it doesn't make any sense for Peyton to

378
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 1: wand from the porch to the swing. Like, yeah, Paul

379
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: was to your point teaching us a lesson where it's like,

380
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: take the awful thing and make it work. That's your job.

381
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: Hit your mark and make it work. And so we

382
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: made a lot of things work in this episode. And

383
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: for me, it was when Pete Wentz was feeding me

384
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: pasta sauce and Peter has this really sarcastic like because

385
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: it was scripted that I was supposed to say mm,

386
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 1: And I was like, what, why can't I just be like, oh,

387
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: it's good man, you know, can't I just say like

388
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: a normal thing that a person would say. Paul's like, Hillary,

389
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: I want them okay, well you're gonna get up. I

390
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: love the weird miss of that's family man. That is

391
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: it is the hoops they made that guy jump through.

392
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: And the fact that Pete is like Nigella Lawson in

393
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: this episode, like in every scene he's like making an omelet,

394
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: he's making Aposta is cooking, like what but he committed

395
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: and it was very sweet. That's you know, that is true? Hillary,

396
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: though that this sense of the sense of family, I mean,

397
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,479
Speaker 1: that's just what everybody's got their own weird quirks. Everybody

398
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: has their certain way of doing things when you and

399
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have the advantage of space like

400
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: we normally do, where if if somebody and your family

401
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: is annoying you, you just go, you know, you go

402
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: home and then you just see them later. In this instance,

403
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: we were all family, and it was like Christmas with

404
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: your family, where everybody's on top of each other for

405
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: four days and you can't go anywhere, and there's no

406
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: space where you're free, and you're all just pulling your

407
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: hair out because everybody's little eccentricities are coming up to

408
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: the surface and we're all just a little on edge.

409
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: And there's no place to have a private conversation either, because,

410
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: like if you wanted to have a conversation with Paul

411
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: about the script, you'd have to have it in front

412
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: of everyone else, right, which never goes very well. That's

413
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: not fun. I don't want to do that. Did you

414
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: What did you guys commit to? Would you commit to

415
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: in the episode? Uh? I don't know. A storyline about

416
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: teenage masturbation. Girl, I had to commit I was on

417
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: your side for that, Yeah, I mean I who you

418
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: made it work. It's real. Yeah. The I remember getting

419
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: I do remember getting this script and reading like Brooke

420
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: having this whole solo like oh oh, reading Lucas's letter

421
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: in the hot tub, and I was like, oh, just

422
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: kill me, like just make it stop. I don't want

423
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: to do this. But it actually, like looking back on it,

424
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm so amused by the storyline and I find

425
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: it so funny. And I was saying this when we

426
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: were watching, like that scene with Danil and I, you know,

427
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: when Rachel walks in on Brooke and then they have

428
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: this thing in the hall and it's like you didn't

429
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: see what you think he's off and you know, we're

430
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: going back and forth. It was so funny, and I

431
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: wish I wish that what was happening behind the scenes

432
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: hadn't been because I feel like they made Brooke and

433
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: Rachel enemies, like you were saying to to kind of

434
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: segment her. Danielle and I are so funny together, Like

435
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: I love get our scenes together, and I just I

436
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: want doesn't that happen later? Don't you guys become like

437
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: comrades a little bit later? Yeah, well, eventually we move

438
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: in together, but it always is weird, Like I don't know,

439
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: I just I wish we'd really just been able to

440
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: play and like go in the direction that it really worked.

441
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: She should have just gone back in the room with you,

442
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, like, girl, it's there. You know. There was

443
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: something about it though that I like about. Yeah, it's

444
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: a love hate. It's not just a pure constant hatred.

445
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: It's like CC babcock and nanny Fine, it's like you know,

446
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's like they they it's fun. It does

447
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: make us all look like assholes, though, because if everyone

448
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: hates Rachel, why are we at her house? Like that's

449
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: such a dick. Yeah, yeah, it's it's really kind of

450
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: a dick move. Um. But you honestly, like the term

451
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: brooking yourself is still around, um, and I'm not against

452
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: it because I am very pro sexuality, but I think

453
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: that young women should be you know, they should respect

454
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: their bodies and not just share them with everyone. That's

455
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: my feminism is like earn it. Your mothers can't earn this. Um.

456
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: You know, I have a lot of have a lot

457
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: of high ideals about who you're going to sleep with,

458
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: if you're going to sleep with anyone, but um, brooking

459
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: your self is a great alternative to explore your own

460
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: sexuality and stay safe. So that's my p s, a

461
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: safety from obsessed with the soapbox moment right now. I

462
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: just I remember the girlfriends of mine, like like sleeping

463
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: with people in high school that were just mortifying, just

464
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: like mortifying, and I'd be like, you sick you why

465
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: don't you just masturbate? Like it's just it seems like

466
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: such an easier answer. Yeah, it would have. It would

467
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: have been nice to see that storyline examined a little

468
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: bit more without because because everybody else was paired off.

469
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: So to see a young woman who was like, yeah,

470
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: no I'm not I'm not interested. I don't I don't

471
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: need one of you guys. I'm good I date me. Yeah,

472
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: it could have been interesting. Yeah, I agree with you, Joy,

473
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: because who was alone Rachel, but she's like kind of

474
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: paired off with mouth. Yeah, Peyton's usually the cheese stands alone. Um.

475
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: I just I loved the comedy for Bevin when when

476
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: the whole thing happens, you know, the reveal happens during

477
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: never Have I Ever, and she's like, oh, I broke

478
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: myself all the time. I was like, this is funny,

479
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: Like I missed that maybe my computer glitched or something.

480
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: It was very very funny normalized it because what was

481
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be embarrassing for Brook became like, yeah, everybody

482
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: does that, don't be embarrassed a stupid I loved Bevan

483
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: and Antoine in this episode, by the way. It was

484
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: so fun to see them. I love their interactions. I

485
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: wish um that and maybe it happens in the future.

486
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: I would love to see a little bit more meaningful

487
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: conversations and meaningful like communication between the two of them.

488
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: But it's so fun. It's so so unexpected how kind

489
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: of perfect they are for each other. They're so great.

490
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: And also credit to Lee the writer for giving Bevan

491
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: this hilarious niche arena of expertise. She knows the Latin

492
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: name of every tree in the world, like for that

493
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: was so so funny, for the way that they wrote

494
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: her character to be the very sort of archetypal did

495
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: tea cheerleader to then be like, you know, a low

496
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: key Steve Irwin. I was loving everybody. I always wanted

497
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: to be somebody shorty short. He always wanted to be

498
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: somebody shorty joy. Can we talk about the proposal on

499
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: the Dock. What did you think about this storyline, because

500
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: we had opinions while we were watching. Well, I you

501
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: said that he should have given her a different ring,

502
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: which I agree it was. That was weird that they

503
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: built this whole storyline for Nathan around getting her ring

504
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: off her finger. I mean, I guess it's realistic, like

505
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: a high school boy would come up with that, all right,

506
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: but but there weren't high school boys in the writer's room,

507
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: and it would have been nice for them to elevate

508
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: the material a little bit, you know, come up with something,

509
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: give boys something to a aspired to a little more creative. Um. Yeah,

510
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't like the whole you called it out like

511
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: stressing a woman out only to come in and save

512
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: the day. It's it's weird. It's a weird habit um.

513
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: But I love that they did this with Nathan and Haley,

514
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: that they got to have their own real proposal moment

515
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: and that they're going to have their own wedding that

516
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: in front of people. I think that's really sweet. I

517
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: loved that too, and I thought it was really nice.

518
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: You know, we've been in such sadness and to have

519
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: an episode where we got to laugh and where there

520
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: was some happiness, you know, for all of its clunkiness.

521
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: I really liked that they gave Nathan the reflection on

522
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: what Keith's loss meant, because obviously with Karen it's really raw.

523
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: Lucas is trying to figure out what this means for

524
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: him and his mom. But there was something very um

525
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought it was very smart, almost

526
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: amost the way when you've got a great narrator in

527
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: a story, they can offer perspective, Like they really gave

528
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: Nathan the opportunity to offer us perspective and for him

529
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: to say, you know, Karen and Keith didn't get to

530
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: stand up in front of everyone, and Haley and I didn't,

531
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: and I want us to the what what's unsaid is

532
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: we're still here, so we'd better, you know, Let's let's

533
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: be in community while we can. And I really thought

534
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: that that was such a special lesson to take away

535
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: from grieving, and I think James did a beautiful job

536
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, I agree. When does the wedding come?

537
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: Is it like a couple episodes or do we take

538
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: our time with this one because I feel like it's

539
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: season four? Is it? No? You guys, it's the finale

540
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: because you go off a bridge, don't you. Oh yeah,

541
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: it's like the big finale, yea, the finale. Alright, well,

542
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't go off a bridge. Nathan and Cooper. Cooper

543
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: dives in Nathan's in the limo. Why is someone driving drunk?

544
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: Rachel was driving? Rachel's driving, isn't she? And that that

545
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: led Zeppelin song plays? They paid so much money for

546
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: that led Zeppelin song. Well we'll get there a long

547
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: time the cabin. Okay. So if we had to take

548
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: our whole cast that was in this episode and go somewhere,

549
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: oh fine, like where would we go? Yeah, we would

550
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: need more than five bedrooms. Friends, like so many of us,

551
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: we're grown ups now we don't share. I mean, why

552
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: are we not renting a house in the south of Italy?

553
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: And like, I mean, yeah, I've never been to the

554
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: south of Italy. I don't know. Girls, tell me, is

555
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: that where we should go? That's where I don't know, Sophia,

556
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: you know all the spots, oh man, I My my

557
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 1: dream for my self is to take over like an

558
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: old Italian villa, a whole agriturismo set up, make olive

559
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: oil and just retire in Italy with my tomato plants,

560
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: and like, that's so if what you're saying is we

561
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: could begin traveling around scouting and it would be a

562
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: reunion for Cork And I'm like, let it's for work,

563
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: it's for the podcast, for guys, let's call we're recreating

564
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: season three, episode eighteen. Yeah, but like grown up fancy style.

565
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm into it. Okay, grown up stuff. We have to

566
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: talk about Karen, we have to talk about more. In

567
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: that scene, it was so beautiful. Wow, it was scary.

568
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: Another thing it's like that bums me out of I mean,

569
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: I love this show, guys. You guys, I love our show.

570
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't want it to feel like I don't. But

571
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: it's because it's so good when it's good, and the

572
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: potential we know what they're capable of, so when it

573
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: falls short, it's so frustrating. And I really there was

574
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: so much potential to have uh group grieving time, um,

575
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: big big tears, big laughter together, processing things together, um,

576
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: rather than just everybody getting off all weekend and like

577
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's like, how is this healing?

578
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: And to bring that into Karen like that would have

579
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: blended so nicely with moments back in Tree Hill and

580
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: we could have seen that transition right now. Again, it

581
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: just felt so Hodgepodge. It was like, we're at the lake,

582
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: somebody's in a hot tub. It's cute. They're jumping at

583
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: each other's back. Somebody's uh, it's like Shenanigan's a wait,

584
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: we're kissing a rock star. Karen's now doing a very

585
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Moira was doing like a serious acting piece moment. And

586
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: then now we're back to the cabin, and it was

587
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: just it was schizophrenic episode. This episode just didn't know

588
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: what it wanted to be. You forgot the club night,

589
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: Jo forgot the dance party. I forgot the dance the

590
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: girl shaking the T shirts that that poor girl, she's

591
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: like here, does anyone want one of these? No? Cool? Um?

592
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: I think I think it could have been so special,

593
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: especially because this was clearly inspired by The Big Chill.

594
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: And if we'd gone to that that cabin and then

595
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: never have I ever had turned into more of a

596
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: share and you had seen, especially what this loss and

597
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: the processing of it meant for Lucas and then for

598
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: Lucas and Nathan his brothers, and then you had cut

599
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: to Karen saying, you have two sons. You know, where

600
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: were you your responsibility to your family and you could

601
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: have cut back and seen the way that like this

602
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: younger generation of scott Boys is doing family responsibility differently.

603
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: There could have really been grief process and you know,

604
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: the humor that sometimes comes with that release done in

605
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: a way, and we could have gone to like dance

606
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: downtown in the next episode. You know, I do I

607
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: do agree. I feel like they rushed it and they

608
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: sort of scissored four episodes together and it was a

609
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: missed opportunity. Well, why do talk therapy when you can

610
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: just have an orgasm? You know that that fixes everything, honestly,

611
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: back and that's all. But to Joy's point, that's all

612
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 1: it came down to. It was like, if the kids

613
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: can just get off, they'll forget about all the trauma.

614
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: You know, there's something so beautiful about the humor. Is

615
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: the wrong word helped me when you're grieving, And it's

616
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: it's laughter that turn tears, that turned to laughter that

617
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: turned back to tears, and it's the back and forth.

618
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, um, I was just visiting family for a

619
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: death than the family and and we had a service

620
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: and everybody had come from you know, all four corners

621
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: to just come and be there. And I know Hillary

622
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: you've also been through You've sat shiva several times in

623
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. I've never done that. Um

624
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: is the experience, I mean, did you do you experience

625
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: that in those environments as well? When it's just and

626
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure Sophia you've done that as well to being

627
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about your family. Yeah, yeah, but it's just

628
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so wonderful to see everyone and be together,

629
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: and it's hard to just sit and be real, like

630
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: you want to make everybody feel better or do something,

631
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: and everybody's sort of serving these roles like where do

632
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: I fit? How do I serve my role here? And

633
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: to see everyone feel awkward together. Um, I'm so I'm

634
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: kind of talking in circles, but I think that would

635
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: have been so nice to see. No, But to your point,

636
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: I find that, Um, in those situations, I used to

637
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: be the dishwasher, right, because there's always the person who's like,

638
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: there's the person who's like, I'm the trash bag person.

639
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm the dishwasher. I'm like the busy person. And as

640
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: I've gotten older and have been to more of those events,

641
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm the corner talker, and so you find the person

642
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: in the corner who doesn't quite know what to do,

643
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: and you start telling stories that are are funny to

644
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: your point, you know, and and giving people permission to

645
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: laugh at those events is so important. And you have

646
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: to read the room, you know, like you have to

647
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: know that the person closest to the loss is okay

648
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: with that. But sitting shiva is great because you give

649
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: yourself full permission to go dark and just sit and

650
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: and feel all the feelings for days. And then at

651
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: the very end of it, everyone who's joined in and

652
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: the family that's lost someone is supposed to get up

653
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: and like take a lap around the block together, and

654
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: that symbolizes getting back out there into the world, and that,

655
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: to me is my favorite part of it. And that's

656
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: kind of what our characters are doing in this show.

657
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: Like the very last shot of us all lined up,

658
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: we are out in the world together, and those groups scenes,

659
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: you know, even when we have to do clunky shit,

660
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: they do hold a certain magic because we all represent

661
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: really different things to our audience base and to see

662
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: that they can all play nicely together is a good visual,

663
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I think it's interesting. Our issue with

664
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: the episode is that we weren't really given time to grieve.

665
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: And I think, as we've all experienced loss, you know what,

666
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: what you're really saying, Joy, is that that time is

667
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: so important and it is you know, to echo your

668
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: point Hill, It is what I love about the tradition

669
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: of Shibba. It's not rush m hm, and everything we

670
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: do in the world feel so rushed. And to have

671
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: something old and sacred about community that says, sit here

672
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: for days and days together, really process, really be in this,

673
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: really give yourself the space to experience whatever you will experience,

674
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: and then together begin to return. I wish we had

675
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: more more practices like that. Mm hmm. Wouldn't have been

676
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: cool to see all of the Tree Hill kids just

677
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: like walking down Front Street together, like taking the lap together.

678
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: Did we ever do that? No? I don't think so.

679
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: For as much as we shot downtown, I don't feel

680
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: like there was ever like a what is it reservoir

681
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: dogs scene of almost just like walking out stream About

682
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: how cool that would have been if there was somebody

683
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: in the group who was of the Jewish faith like

684
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: in our in our group and who we were all

685
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: trying to process our grief and we didn't know how

686
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: to do it, and somebody brought up like, well, this

687
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: is what we do in my faith, and we all

688
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: sort of like embraced it and figured out some weird

689
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: way at the cabin to just like do our own

690
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: version of Shiva. Like that would have been so interesting

691
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: to watch and go through and then take the lap

692
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: around the cabin. But we couldn't have been drinking wine

693
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: and wearing sun kiss shirts. Joy. It just chup. It

694
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: was a big swinging a miss with this episode. I'm

695
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: saying it out loud because it's like I'm dream I'm

696
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: like trying to rewrite it in my head so that

697
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: when I walk away and feel so bad about this episode,

698
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: I can be like, no, this is what really happened

699
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: in my mind. I create Can we storyboard that? Can

700
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: somebody do that for us? I'm so into it. Yeah

701
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: that's better. Um. Yeah, you know what everyone always says, like, well,

702
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: what do you think your character would be doing today?

703
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm like the quest I want to answer are how

704
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: would you ladies have rewritten your show? Yeah, we just

705
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: pick an episode and rewrite it, but you have to

706
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: stay in your bathing suit the whole time. Sophia that's good. Guys.

707
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: Did you see Antoine and Bevan's breath in the woods

708
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: and then knowing you guys were in those hot tubs.

709
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: It was awful. It was awful, so bad for you guys.

710
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: It was so cold. Also, I was laughing at myself

711
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: because I had to get out of the hot tub,

712
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, after reading the letter, and I was like, oh, man,

713
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: I see exactly what I'm doing there. I'm like, oh,

714
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: you guys want to get us out of the water

715
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: and bikini's all wet, golf, I'm gonna turn my back

716
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: on you. I'm gonna hunch over like a little gremlin

717
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: and get in a towel like I just was not.

718
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: I was like, you want the like sexy you know,

719
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: red bikini shot. You can't have it, can't have it,

720
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: just like my little protestations. Sophia, you didn't commit. You

721
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: didn't commit it. I didn't commit. She committed to something, friend. Yeah,

722
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: I committed to me. And I love Brooks just wearing

723
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: a sweatshirt the whole episode, She's just wearing cutie. I

724
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: did too. It felt it felt really real, and I

725
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: think that that was something we decided on. I vaguely

726
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: remember having a conversation with Paul about that, like why

727
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: are we dressed up in the woods? And it was like, well,

728
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, all right, what do you want to do?

729
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: Put on so great? Do it? And I love I

730
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: love when actors direct because you get to make those

731
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: kinds of decisions that feel so honestly you know what

732
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: I will say also gets a sweet honorable mention in

733
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 1: this episode. I loved Peyton and Mouth in the bunk

734
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: beds talking. Oh yeah, that was cute. I could still

735
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: share a room with Lee. Oh yes if When Lee

736
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: and I did that Christmas movie down in Louisiana, our

737
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: hotel rooms were right next to each other, and it

738
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: felt kind of the same same energy. It was just like, hey, boss,

739
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: you're coming over. We're making mycroni and cheese. I got

740
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: a bottle of line and some kid food. Come over,

741
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: all right? Vanessa says, how would you feel about a

742
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: prequel showing young Dan, Keith, Karen and dead. We've talked

743
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: about this before. That's a great idea and should be done. Wait,

744
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: who would be cast? I don't know a lot of

745
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: child actors. Um trying to say from my my Nickelodeon

746
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Disney Channel repertoire. Oh, but that would be really fun

747
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: to see them in the uh I guess it would

748
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: be the late seventies early eighties. No, No, because if

749
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: we filmed in two thousand three and our characters were

750
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be sixteen, that puts them in their senior

751
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: year sixteen years before two thousand three. Somebody's going to

752
00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: have to do the math. That's like. Because No, Yeah,

753
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: so eighties m hmm, okay, so you'd want to see

754
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: like a few years before she gets pregnant the eighties.

755
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: It'd be like Tree Hill meets Stranger Things. I was

756
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: just going to say, that's the christ kid with the

757
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: good hair grows up to be Dan Scott. I'm into that, okay.

758
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: I think what would be interesting too is the because

759
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: as it goes the storyline, you know, Dan meets Deb

760
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: in college, so you would have you would have to

761
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: have a story that centered around Dan and Keith, and

762
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: and it would be really interesting to see how Keith

763
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: watched Dan and Karen's relationship and then what happened when

764
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: Dan broke Karen's heart picked Deb brought her home for

765
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: like the first you know, winter break from college or whatever.

766
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: It would be really juicy and to see like a

767
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: young Tess Harper and Gerald McCraney to but guys, speaking

768
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: of backstory, that was one of the things that really

769
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: struck me about this episode. Where are Karen's parents? Where

770
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: is anyone? We've never explained it, no one's ever said

771
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: she's an orphan, No one's never and royal and who

772
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: does test I can't remember what Dan and Keith's mom's

773
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: name was, but she they don't show up. The grandparents

774
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: can't show up to their own son's funeral. Nobody explains it.

775
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: It's just totally sideswiped. That's another thing we'd change about

776
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah, because that's when everyone shows up in rallies,

777
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, and we could see a young Ellie too,

778
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: like maybe you could be there could be some sort

779
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: of like intersection there. I'm so obsessed with the backstory

780
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: of of Ellie and then John Doe who played my dad,

781
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: like hooking up on the concert circuit, yes, and then

782
00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: like Victoria's a whole like Dynasty series waiting day. Gosh right, Yeah,

783
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: we want all the backstory. Give it to us, somebody right,

784
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: a check done? Exactly right? All right? Riley asks, where

785
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: would you rather hang out Trick, the River Court or

786
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: Karen's Cafe. Okay, wait, is this me like me now

787
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: or or me in high school? Like? Is this us

788
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: in high school? Or oh? I immediately went to now

789
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: now I'd be I'd be in Karen's Cafe. Probably That'd

790
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: be I'd be like, go right, and I'd hang out

791
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: and like chill there. I'm going to have to say

792
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: trick for both guys. I'm still just bar rat. Hey, man,

793
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: can I get some trouble here? Okay, that sounds good.

794
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: How late are you open? Totally high school me definitely

795
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: wants to go to trick, but also I want to

796
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: go to Trick and hang out with you guys in

797
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: the green room and be like, no, this is ours,

798
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 1: like this is our little space. We'll go watch the music,

799
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: but then we have our little room back here, because

800
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, because it makes me feel very territory, but

801
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: in a sweet way, if that makes sense. No, it's

802
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: good territorial. This is my hang out. It was cool.

803
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: Its cool clubhouse. Man. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe do

804
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: we need to open our own trick at some point? Yes? Okay,

805
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: we do planting that seed. Let's do that perfect you

806
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: guys let's spin a wheel. I'm so glad that we're

807
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: back to happiness. Let's see what the wheel says for us.

808
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: This is my favorite in a long time. Oh, you guys,

809
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: who is most likely to secretly be a vampire? Secretly

810
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: be a van? I mean we've Dan, Yeah, we've been

811
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: spinning wheels for a long time. Here, Um, we've never

812
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: gotten that one before. My goodness. Dan easily transitions over to, uh,

813
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: what was that show with all the vampires on it?

814
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: What was that show True Blood, True Bottle, the show

815
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: that was at the same time as us with the

816
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: vampires diaries, Big vampires, little bit um? Yeah, well, who

817
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: doesn't age joy? You do freaking age? You have an

818
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: aged Are you immortal? She she nuts, tell anyone, I'm

819
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: just drinking the blood of virgins over here. Yeah. I

820
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: think Dan Scott would for sure drink any blood he

821
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: needed to to stay alive. I also like the first

822
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: thing I've pictured when it was like who's most likely

823
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: to be a vampire? It's like all the creepy old

824
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: medieval ship you used to have in your house, Hilary.

825
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm like if you, I'm like, you probably have a coffin.

826
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: That's a coffee table, Like, I wouldn't be surprised if

827
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: somewhere in storage that lives so well, guys, it's not

828
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: a secret. The whole thing would secretly be a vampire.

829
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: You're proud, Um, Oh my god. Remember we were so

830
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: obsessed with True Blood while we were filming our show,

831
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: like you, Okay, I just emptied out boxes of books

832
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: that I've had in storage for a hundred years. I mean,

833
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: I still found things that I've been storing since high school.

834
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: I pulled you know, I was sending you all those

835
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: photos from set because I was finding a stuff. I

836
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: have every book in the series of True bless you're

837
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: so obsessed, obsessed with that the opening theme to that show.

838
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is the sexiest thing I've

839
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: ever seen on television. Oh my god. Scars Guard is

840
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: terrifying and so handsome. Um, what a world? What a world?

841
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: And we were so excited when Joe Mango went over

842
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: to play with them. I know, yeah, man, he made

843
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: a great werewolf. Um, all right, what do we have

844
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: next next episode? I think you should read it, guys.

845
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing. No you read its moment. It's season three

846
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: episode nineteen titled I love with someone in Fallout Boy,

847
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: and all I got was the stupid song written about

848
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: me and for the record, the record. So many people

849
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: have alluded to the fact that, like they thought that

850
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: Peyton and Pete slept together in this episode, and I,

851
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: for one, even when filming it, never thought that because

852
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: Peyton is fully clothed the whole time, like in the

853
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: zip up sweatshirt the whole time. Remember I asked when

854
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: when you guys were having to talk about the tattoos,

855
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, why doesn't he have his shirt on? Like

856
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: it's weird because it's so clearly not happening because somebody

857
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: walked over to him at the last second probably and

858
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: was like, we want to do this scene without your shirt.

859
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: Is that okay? He was like sure, sure, well, or

860
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: somebody said you can't have your shirt on if you're

861
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: counting your tattoos. Well, neither neither Hillary Burton or Peyton

862
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: Sawyer has had sex with anyone in Fallout Boys. So boom, done,

863
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: done when we're squashed queen until next week, Everyone go

864
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: get your squash It's October. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't

865
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: forget to leave us a review. You can also follow

866
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Drama Queens O. T H. Or

867
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: email us at Drama Queens at I heart radio dot com.

868
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: See you next time. We are all about that high

869
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: school drama. Girl, Drama Girl, all about them high school queens.

870
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: We'll take you for a ride in our comic girl

871
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: cheering for the right Drama Queens draw up girl fashion,

872
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: but your tough girl, you can sit with us. Girl

873
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: Drama Queens, Drama Queens, Drama, Queen's Drama, Drama, Queen's Drama,

874
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: Queens