WEBVTT - Do 59s Still Matter? Plus: A Women’s PGA Recap 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.800 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.920 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.160 And when I find my ball in a fried egg. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.000 Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida egg Frida egg, Frida egg 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:11.840 egg Frida egg bride egg. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.080 Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the hump course. 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.240 Welcome to the Friday Egg Golf Podcast. I'm Garrett Morrison, 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:45.320 and today we're talking about whether fifty nine's are cool anymore? 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.520 More specifically, Joseph Lamannia and I will discuss the low 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.320 scoring at this past week's Travelers Championship on the PGA 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.960 Tour and ask what if anything, golf courses like Traveler's 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.840 host TPC River Highlands can do to test modern tour 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:06.560 pros properly. But first we'll be joined by Meg Atkins 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.880 for a special in and out segment focused on the 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.320 Women's PGA Championship. So we'll talk about what we're in 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.640 on and what we're out on related to the Women's PGA, 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.880 which was held at the Holly Country Club this past 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.959 week and won by Amy Yang. Let's start with you, Meg, 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:25.399 What are you in on? 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:32.000 Hey, guys, Okay, I am I'm in on Nellie's slump, 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.679 not like I'm not in on her playing bad and 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.559 I think it's great she's playing bad, But I am. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.119 In I think that's what you just said, though it is, but. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.200 Hear me out, hear me out, Here, me out, Okay, Okay, 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:47.960 I'm in on how this just plays out for the 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:52.680 rest of the year and the highest of highs and 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:56.120 now the lowest of lows. In terms of I mean, 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.640 I would say if you ask Nellie like her low's 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.520 would be probably more around the injuries, especially the blood 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.320 clot but in terms of just her play like this is. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.959 This is the low of her career, miss missing three 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.360 cuts in a row. And the reason I'm in on 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.440 it is because I'm just so interested, in intrigued to 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.280 see what happens the next time she tees it up 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:23.640 and whether you know, this keeps going the downhill way 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.560 or she shows us what she how she's been for 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.119 the majority of the year and and comes back into 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:33.600 form a bit you know, like when you were talking 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.760 with Shane Garrett last week and he had the great 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:37.639 line of the yo yo of hope, like we're kind 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.840 of seeing this yo yo year now for Nelly and 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:45.040 for someone who is you know, I think she's been 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.960 I think she's been way more open this year than 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.880 she has been in the past, But who can be 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.000 a little bit more closed off? Like this was more 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:57.760 emotion more you know this. She showed more on the course, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.560 you know, on fifteen than she shown in any sort 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.240 of press conference, any sort of interview, and we saw 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:10.359 that that bubble that she always speaks about burst kind 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.400 of it right in front of our eyes. And yeah, 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:18.119 I'm just really interested to see what's next and how 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.040 she's gonna I hope turn this around. There's a lot 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:26.359 of big stuff still on the calendar, Saint Andrew's Solheim Cup, Olympics. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.799 I believe we'll see her next at Evyon. I don't 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.800 think she's going to play the team event this week, 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.720 so yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna need a breather 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.520 or take a break if she wins Chevron and Evyon 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.520 and that's and that's it for majors this year, but yeah, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.360 it's a major. The next time she'll tee it up 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.680 and well, we'll see where she goes. But I'm in 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.720 on where this just the narrative of this year and 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.280 where this slump is taking the narrative of Nelly's historic here. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:00.200 Seems like it's either an EMC or a win at 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.800 this point for Nelly, and I guess in a way 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.160 that's exciting but also striking that two of the EMCs 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:11.520 happened at major championships recently, so that's got to be frustrating. Joseph, 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:12.480 what are you in on? 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.560 I'm in on the trajectory of Amy Yang's career. I 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.640 think it's super cool she's played. This is her seventy 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.359 fifth major, never won one. Thought it's cool that she 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.279 doesn't have a hat or a bag sponsor, and she 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.599 just wants to focus on golf because some of the 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.560 sponsorship obligations take her away from golf. She'd had sixteen 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.240 top tens between twenty ten and twenty seventeen, had had 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.960 close calls in majors, but hadn't got it done. Talked 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.440 about in her press conference how she had started to 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.440 have doubts that she was ever gonna win one, just 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.320 seeing the relief she had when she won. I think 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.200 it's really cool when you have a player who's been 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.920 around for a while that hasn't got one done. Maybe 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.040 have some serious doubts that they're actually ever going to 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.200 win one. Watching them get over the hump and win 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.120 is a cool story. I don't know if fans always 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.200 love it, like the Brian Harmon at the Open Championship 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.880 last year, because I think there's sometimes a feeling of 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.200 wanting to see a young player who could win five 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.080 or six of them and you start talking about what 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.560 their future is going to look like. When a player 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.839 like Amy Yang wins, who's not at the end of 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.599 her career but on the back nine, so to speak, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.880 you don't have that same conversation. But it's really I'm 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:24.320 sure she's feeling extremely a serious sense of relief, and 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:25.680 I think it's cool to watch a player win in 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:26.680 that stage of their career. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.719 Meg any context or thoughts on Amy Yang for people 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.040 who weren't previously familiar with her career. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.120 Yeah, she's a veteran. I mean, she's been out there 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:44.760 for so long. I don't like I watched, you know, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.120 a lot of the coverage, most of it this whole week. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.919 It's shocking with that rhythm and that tempo and just 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.360 how sweet of a swing she has that there hasn't 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.960 been more winning. But yeah, I mean it's just super 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.000 hard to get over the edge, and I find it. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.480 I mean, it's got to be even sweeter for her 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.960 doing it against you know, the twenty year olds and 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.680 the with all the youth movement in the women's game. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.279 She's stuck around. She thought about retiring, like, you know, 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.960 had bad tennis elbow injury, and to you know, to 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:23.000 keep going when others were taking time off, to you know, retire, 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.760 start a family, or whatever the case may be. To 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.320 hang around and to get that the biggest victory of 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.400 her career after all these years. 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.360 It was super cool to watch. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:38.719 With Amy Yang. It's interesting because she is on the 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.240 LPGA Tour. That's where she has played a lot of 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:45.599 her golf this year and recently, but she has also 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.479 spent a significant portion of her career on other tours 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:54.120 around the world, the Korean LPGA. Has she played in Japan, 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:58.880 I would imagine maybe at least occasionally, and the standard 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.320 of play on those tours is really really high, and 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.400 we see some of that coming out in major championships 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:09.320 where players who maybe aren't super familiar to an American audience, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.960 but more so to a Korean or Japanese audience. All 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.840 of a sudden show themselves to be very very high 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.120 quality players, and so we saw that again this week 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:24.440 at Sahali. So what I'm in on is pretty simple. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:30.040 Lily Avu comes back from injury, immediately wins on the 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.920 LPGA Tour and then records a T two. It's a holly. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.720 She's a killer, and I have to think that she'll 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.680 show up at St. Andrews this year. Obviously, Lily Avu 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.280 won two majors last year alone, which is still Nelly 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:50.920 Corda's career total of majors. So something's going on with 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.640 Lily Avu where she just performs in these big events, 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:58.360 in these big moments, and I'm excited to see what 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.000 comes of it. All right, let's get into what we're 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.480 out on. I'll start with you again, Meg, what are 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:09.120 you out on this week related to the Women's PGA. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:15.040 I'm so far out on threesomes and split tea's on 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.600 the weekends of a major. 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:18.400 It's just I. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.240 Saw I thought there was a chance when they when 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.320 they had the coverage windows and we weren't going, you know, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.600 deep into primetime with it being on the West coast. Yeah, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:36.800 Olympic Trials, you know, the calendar of other sporting events happens. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:40.480 So you shoehorn in, you know, the final two rounds 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.520 of a major of you know, the Women's PGA real 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:49.360 deal major into split teas and threesomes on Saturday and Sunday. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.839 It kills pace of play, It kills the rhythm that 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.840 you're used to associating with the biggest events in golf. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.760 Uh yeah, it needs to go away for good. I 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:07.320 don't know, and I'm not positive or enthusiastic or hopeful 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:12.040 that it will, but yeah, it's it's unfortunate because we 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.480 just had the US Women's Open where that wasn't the case, 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.480 and you know, what's the what's the deal? I mean, 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.360 KP and G has put forth a giant purse. They've 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:26.240 done so much to grow this event. But if it's 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:31.080 an NBC thing, a partner thing, Uh yeah, an LPG 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.200 LPGA thing, we gotta we gotta have twosomes and everyone 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.480 going off one on Saturday and Sunday of a major. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.400 So is it is it not clear why they're doing that? 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:47.280 It wasn't It wasn't weather, It wasn't you know, there 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.400 was You're on the West coast, it's the middle of June. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.200 It's the longest. You know, we have the most daylight 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:58.000 hours we'll ever have. From all I understand, you know, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.439 they wanted to start those Olympics trials at six o'clock 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:05.360 and and they got out of that coverage so fast 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:09.280 last night they did. I think Tom Abbott asked Amy 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.280 Yang two questions and then it was you know, drone 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.760 shot of the overhead of eighteen green and we'll see 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:19.240 you later and onto onto trials and on Saturday, you know, 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.840 it ended at the same it was just the local 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:26.480 news that was playing here. So I yeah, it's if 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:31.319 it's if it's needing like or KPMG to and the 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.400 LPG to put the screws to NBC on this, I don't. 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.440 I don't know. But it's when you have the US 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.760 Women's Open whatever two three weeks ago and you don't 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.880 see that and then it happens at the KPMG and 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.280 makes it feel like not as big of a deal. 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.560 Joseph, what are you out on? 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.559 I'm kind of pivoting here based on what Meg said 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:53.640 on her to. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:55.560 Slump. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.760 Okay, I'm just out on ever falling for the this 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:03.040 time it's different with a certain player and expecting the 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.880 dominance to persist week in and week out. Like this 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.360 happens all the time, where a player goes through a 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:13.920 super hot spell and Nelly Corda may pick it right 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.280 back up right and when another major this year might 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.520 win multiple more times. But it always feels different, and 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.960 you can talk yourself into reasons why a certain hot 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.320 streak is going to last. Scotti Scheffler is going through 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.160 a similar thing right now and getting comparisons to Tiger. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.360 It very rarely lasts like. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.720 You have to be a true Unicorn for that hot 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.280 form to persist. So I think just in general, when 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.160 a player gets really hot, it's not fun to take 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.600 the side of oh, this probably isn't gonna last, but 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.080 it is more often than not the correct side. So, 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.840 like Meg, I'm super eager to see what Nelly does 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.240 the rest of the year, But the next time a 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.680 hot streak comes around, I'm going to remind myself that 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:55.280 you can't really fall for it. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.720 With Nelly it seemed to be different though, because of 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:04.560 her or pedigree. She came into the LPGA tour with 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.400 a lot of hype and a lot of accomplishments, and 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.199 seeing her become the best player in the world and 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.040 go on this run wasn't really surprising it. It wasn't 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.560 a random thing with her, and so I think the 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:24.960 expectations for her to continue being dominant are fairly valid. 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:26.079 It doesn't feel random to. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:27.760 Me, and she looked to be clear. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.040 I don't think one missed cut means that the hot 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.319 streak is over, like, especially on a setup like Sahalif, 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.800 if you get a little off and missing a cut 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.320 seems I don't want to use the word excusable, but 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.319 it can happen. It's much more within Noah's range of outcomes. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:45.760 But in general, will we be talking about her three 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.120 years from now as the best player in the world. 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.559 As tempting as it can be to default to yes, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:51.880 like the answer is generally no. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.880 It's like the how many majors discussion like run It's 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.680 never I always take the under. It's not very fun. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.800 It's more fun to have a hot take of you know, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:00.960 many many majors. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:02.680 Yeah. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:07.360 The the thing with Nelly, like all the wins were 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.760 on so many different types of courses, different you know, 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.240 different formats the match play. That's why I was like, Okay, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.240 this is really something special because it wasn't just the 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:22.120 May for Nelly type track that favored her huge advantage 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:26.760 with distance, and that's also why this this you know, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:31.760 three cut three miss cut streak is so jarring and shocking. 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.439 But I'm with you, Joseph. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.760 What's probably going to happen is the correction to the 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.360 mean you know streaks, and they normally don't go from 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.640 the highest the highest to the lowest the lows, like 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.760 the snap of the fingers. But I they'll if I 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.960 had to bet, well, you know, we're not going to 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.240 see another We're not going to see another multi win 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:55.559 streak probably from Nelly, but with her talent, I wouldn't 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.760 be surprised if she gets knocks off another win or 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:58.240 two either. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.120 Do you guys want to guess what I'm out on? 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:03.360 No, that's a dangerous game. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.000 Yeah, so many, so many options. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.280 Grettah, look at this golf course that they just played. 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.199 Okay, all right, all right, what's going on? 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.839 Okay, that's not really what I'm out on, you know, 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:22.600 so Holly, Yes, it's it's really really claustrophobic. There are 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.120 trees like right on top of the playing lines, but 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.000 that's kind of what the golf course is It's not 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.480 like there was a pre existing golf course that had 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.520 a different character and then they added a bunch of trees. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.000 This has been the golf course from the beginning, and 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.160 so it is what it is. You can say that 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.480 it's one dimensional, and I will say that it's one dimensional. 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.160 It is. It's a it's a one dimensional golf course, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.240 but it's distinctive. It does have something of a sense 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:51.320 of place, and it has been like this basically from 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.960 the beginning. I believe I'm not an expert on the 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:59.160 history of Sahali, but what I'm out on more generally 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:04.000 is just the Women's PGA Championship RODA. It's not really 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:08.080 a rota, but the collection of sites that they're going 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:12.520 to go to in the future. It hasn't been bad recently, 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.800 you know. So they've recently gone to Baltis Rawl, the 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:23.080 renovated Congressional aronom Inc. Not long ago, Olympia Fields a 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:27.880 number of years ago. It hasn't been horrible, but it 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.760 just hasn't been nearly as good as it could be. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.720 There are so many cool options for the Women's PGA 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.119 when it comes to venues, and KPMG seems to be 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.120 behind the event and giving it some funding and some juice, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.200 And so I would assume that they have a lot 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.000 of options that they could go to a number of 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.280 different courses. And the great thing about the Women's PGA 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.560 Championship is that you don't need to go to these 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.360 kind of massive courses that the PGA Championship in US 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.360 Open have to go to in order to accommodate those 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.880 hospitality and commercial needs and also the sheer distance that 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.880 male players hit the ball these days, you can go 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.960 to slightly more offbeat venues. They need to be big 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.880 enough to accommodate a big championship, but they don't have 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.720 to be, you know, on the scale of a US 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.480 Open or a PGA Championship venue. So that opens up 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.320 some really cool possibilities. If they were going to go 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:32.920 to the Pacific Northwest this past week, why wasn't Chambers 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:37.120 Bay on the table? You know, the USGA has dropped 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.000 Chambers Bay at this point. It would be so cool 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:44.720 to see a Women's PGA Championship there. In San Francisco, 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.360 you've got Lake Mercet. I'm not sure what's going on 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.640 with Lake Mersett on the LPGA tour, but it doesn't 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.840 seem to be re entering the schedule, and so that 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.080 would be a cool PGA championship site. What about like 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.480 bel Air in Los Angeles? What about Plainfield Country Club? 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:06.840 What about Lasnia, Lynx Old Town Club, Seminole, Southern Hills, 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:12.480 that's a PGA anchor site, Quaker Ridge, Sciota, Baltimore Country Club, 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.920 Milwaukee Country Club, Saint Louis Country. I mean, there are 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.200 so many cool courses. I'm not sure if all of 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.439 these would want to host a women's PGA Championship. I 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.359 am not sure, especially that, you know, like Seminole, I 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.440 don't know whatever, I'm just throwing that name out. I'm 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.240 just looking at some cool courses that we know can't 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.679 host a men's major and wondering why they aren't on 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.600 the table. Why are we going to, you know, in 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.800 the next couple of years. What PGA Frisco in twenty 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.359 twenty five and twenty thirty one, I get it, but 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.879 that's a lot of PGA Frisco. We're going to Hazel 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:52.000 Team in twenty twenty six before the renovations happen. As 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.119 far as I know, there are gonna be some renovations 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.840 there by. Davis Love's firm that could make that course 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.720 a little bit cooler, but as of now kind of 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.960 a appointing choice. Then we're going back to Congressional again 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.520 in twenty twenty seven. Really cool course. I like what 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.120 Andrew Green did there, but do we have to go 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.040 there with that frequency? We were just there a couple 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.119 of years ago. Do you are you guys with me 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.200 on this or am I crazy? 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:18.800 I'm with you? 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.159 Yeah, it's and it goes to like, you know, on 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:23.960 the on the men's side of things, we've we've talked 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.560 about the PGA Championship and its identity, Like we're kind 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.760 of at the same point on the women's side too, 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:33.960 where it almost feels like US Open Junior a bit 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:38.679 like that was a super challenging test. You know, nobody 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.399 ever besides Amy Yang and Rios was more than a 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.639 few strokes under par And it's like, you know, the 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.600 US Open student a pretty darn good job of that 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:51.879 at better courses, and they're kind they're they're going the 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.359 women's PGA is going to courses that the men can't 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.680 play at anymore. Likes to Holly, you know that they 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:03.640 hosted ninety eight Baltistral, but they're they're just not really 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.679 picking the ones that I would prefer they pick. You know, 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:10.399 there these are they have name recognition and whatnot. But 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:12.720 we can do a bit of better. We can do 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:17.720 a better job. And I'm not sure the identity of 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.280 the Women's PGA of the past decade has been how 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.800 much it's grown from per size to just you know 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:28.800 what KPMG has done. But I'm not sure if they're 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.920 hitting the mark on the identity of the of the 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:37.320 championship and there the regular women's schedule could do way 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.640 better job of the courses they're going to. Uh and yeah, 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.920 KPMG Women's PGA can do the same. 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:44.479 I mean, I'm with you. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.960 I think in general a lesson of the last couple 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.520 of years has been that the golf course and the 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.520 venue is way lower on the list of the priorities 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.200 for a lot of the governing bodies. I would imagine 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.720 the KPMG, it's it's lower on the their list of 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.200 priorities than it is for the people who are talking 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.159 right now and for probably a lot of listeners of 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:10.000 the Fried Egg podcast. Like, realistically, how much would viewership 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.000 change if it hadn't been at Sahali and it had 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.800 been at one of those golf courses you mentioned, Garrett, like, 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:17.800 I'd prefer to watch it. I think Chambers Bay would 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.240 be really interesting to see a championship go back there, 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.720 and you'd still have the West Coast prime time, which 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.120 I do think is worth prioritizing and was a benefit 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.480 of the championship this past weekend. But I found Saholly 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.160 to be underwhelming and not just claustrophobic, probably for the players, 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:34.679 but I thought a lot of the holes kind of 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.400 look pretty similar and it feels repetitive, and I think 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.159 a problem with that is that when fans are watching, 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:45.600 there aren't those holes that their senses kind of heighten 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.240 and they're tuned into a particular hole that they know 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.640 something different is going on. It did feel like each 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.960 hole kind of bled together a little bit from watching 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.720 the coverage this past weekend. But again, I'm with you, 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:58.320 I just don't think that this is something that they'd 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:00.640 probably ties. 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:02.240 In the same way that we'd like them to. 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:07.240 All Right, So that's the women's PGA Championship. We have 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.919 a couple more women's majors coming up this year, including 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.359 a great Women's Open, or likely to be a great 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.199 Women's Open at the Old Course, so a lot to 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.919 look forward to, Meg, thank you for joining for the segment. 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:32.760 Thanks guys, all right, in a minute, Joseph and I 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:36.600 will get into the Travelers Championship, the failed changes at 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.840 TPC River Highlands, Cameron Young's Fake fifty nine and all 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:41.680 that good stuff. 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.560 But first a word from our sponsor, Ores and Alps. 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:48.440 I think a lot of people across the country discovered 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:52.280 this past week that it is now summer, big heat wave, 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.679 lots of sun, and so I suspect many of you 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.960 are in need of some Oars and Alps. 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