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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast a m

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back George Nori along with Jason Di Minisrie Tagot

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Speaker 2: his word Dire Days. What made your message, Jason, would

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Speaker 2: you love a reader to take away with themselves?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one. Well, I would say something

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Speaker 3: I would like them to take from it is that adaptability,

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Speaker 3: for example, you know, beats rigidity, and in dire Days,

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Speaker 3: characters who cling to old, old ways of thinking, for example,

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Speaker 3: they struggle and while those who adapt to fine strength.

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Speaker 3: So that's true for leaders today as well. Flexibility, listening

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Speaker 3: and learning. They are far more powerful than stubbornness. But

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Speaker 3: you know, also keep in mind we have to learn

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Speaker 3: how to cooperate and that may sound simple, George, but

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Speaker 3: it's actually one of the hardest things we do as

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Speaker 3: humans because it requires many things. Trust, humility, uh, the

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Speaker 3: willingness to put group needs above personal gain and a

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Speaker 3: lot of people don't want to do that and that

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Speaker 3: makes people uncomfortable, especially in culture. Is that pride individualism?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the main message we want to uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, get across to the readers.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think there's so much hatred on this planet.

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Speaker 4: Jason.

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Speaker 5: That's a great question, George. I have thought.

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Speaker 3: I think about this probably almost every day. I think

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Speaker 3: that I think it stems from a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: I think it's taught. I also think that it's kind

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Speaker 3: of an assess city for some people, as sad as

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Speaker 3: that may sound, and I think that's where a lot

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Speaker 3: of that comes from, out of necessity and being taught.

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Speaker 2: And can they learn how to not hate?

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Speaker 5: I think they can.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, because you know, I have seen

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Speaker 3: a lot, you know, several documentaries of you know, people

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Speaker 3: who have changed their ways. They were at one time

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Speaker 3: really bad people, you know, committed you know, terrible crimes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got people in public office, You've got

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Speaker 3: people that are you know, in the mainstream media. You know,

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Speaker 3: even I want to say stars for example, and entertainment

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Speaker 3: you know that have you know, at one time in

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Speaker 3: their lives they were not.

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Speaker 5: The greatest of people.

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Speaker 3: But people can change, and you know, we have to

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Speaker 3: hope for change, George, because you know, if we don't

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Speaker 3: have hope to begin with, then nothing else is gonna

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Speaker 2: It in dire days. Why did people leave planet Earth?

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Speaker 5: Well, we left planet Earth because we destroyed it.

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Speaker 3: Ah, And yeah, basically so in dire days, George, we

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Speaker 3: wrote this science fiction story from a I want to say,

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Speaker 3: you know, a factual point of view. So we basically

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Speaker 3: what we the thought, the thinking that c. R. And

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Speaker 3: myself had was all right, we're going to write this

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Speaker 3: sign fiction story set six thousand years in the future,

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Speaker 3: but we're gonna pick it up then as if the

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Speaker 3: world continued on from today until then.

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Speaker 5: And if we continue on.

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Speaker 3: What we're doing, we're going to destroy this planet, whether

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Speaker 3: it's you know, nuclear bombs on everybody fighting, you know,

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Speaker 3: just you know, spiral humanity into chaos.

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Speaker 2: Would you say that MICHAELA. Mason, your heroin in the book,

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Speaker 2: ends up doing the right thing?

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Speaker 5: I will.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she does do the right thing, but she does

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Speaker 3: some wrong things along the way. And so that's part

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Speaker 3: of that redemption arc. You know, not everybody's perfect, but

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Speaker 3: if you're willing to come together and trust and cooperate

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Speaker 5: We can overcome anything, you know. And that's the thing

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Speaker 5: with you know, we always, you know, at least in America.

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Speaker 3: Here, you know, we're very good at, you know, troubleshooting

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Speaker 3: a problem when it happens, but not preparing for it.

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Speaker 3: So we've got to prepare. That's what this book also

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Speaker 3: lets the world know. It put you know, it puts

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Speaker 3: us on point in regards to we have to prepare.

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Speaker 3: We have to be honest with ourselves of what we're doing,

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Speaker 3: not only to the planet, but to each other and

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Speaker 2: Jason Diamond with us. We're going to take calls with Jason,

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Speaker 2: so ask him a question, tell us a story. Jason,

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Speaker 2: would I be foolish if I said to you, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to leave planet Earth. I want to stay

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Speaker 2: here and fight and make it work to the last day.

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Speaker 3: No, George, you wouldn't be foolish by saying that, because

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Speaker 3: I want that as well. And that's why we wrote

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Speaker 3: the book to kind of enlighten people as to what

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Speaker 3: could happen if we don't do what you just said.

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Speaker 5: So that's why we have to do that.

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Speaker 3: We have to work together so we can stay here

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Speaker 3: and enjoy this beautiful planet and everything we have if

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Speaker 3: you're all the conveniences and you know our food sources

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Speaker 3: and our water sources. So no, George, that's not foolish

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Speaker 3: of you to think that I'm right there with you.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Harry and Poort here on Michigan. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the show.

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Speaker 4: Hi Harry, Hi football things. As far as the greed situation, Jason,

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Speaker 4: I know how to solve it. It would take me

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Speaker 4: too long to explain it to you. You're in the call,

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Speaker 4: but we can get together if you want. I know

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Speaker 4: how to solve it. There's a couple of things we

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Speaker 4: need to do. And as far as the negativity, and

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Speaker 4: I love what you were talking about, George. If it bleeds,

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Speaker 4: it leads, and I want to change that. Except I'm

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Speaker 4: just one person. But we need to get a campaign

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Speaker 4: and talk to every professor, journalism professor and a journalism

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Speaker 4: teacher in high school, journalism teacher, journalism professor in college

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Speaker 4: and say you need to say to your student immediately

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Speaker 4: you can if you cover one bad news story, the

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Speaker 4: next story has to be a good news story. And

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Speaker 4: that is definitely needed and in newsrooms should be told

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Speaker 4: that too. If you're going to cover bad news. Then

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Speaker 4: the next story after that. Every time we do a

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Speaker 4: bad news story has to be a good news story.

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Speaker 2: It's all ratings driven driven though. Harry, Yeah, I get you.

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Speaker 4: I get you. But that would that would solve that

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Jace, Yeah, Harry, thanks for the call.

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Speaker 3: That's some good stuff there. I would love to talk

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Speaker 3: to you outside of here. Go to my website, sign

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Speaker 3: up for the newsletter. Let's keep in touch, and let's

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Speaker 3: keep this conversation moving forward. But in regards to your insight,

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great idea, and that's something that.

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Speaker 5: All the news outlets lack.

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Speaker 3: We need good we need good stuff followed by bad

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Speaker 3: because those good stories are going to inspire good things,

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Speaker 3: and those good things are gonna, you know, trickle down

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Speaker 3: thank you for the question.

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Speaker 2: Great one, Jason. I end this program every Sunday when

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Speaker 2: I'm on for Sunday every month with a song from

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Speaker 2: the group called Disturbed Sounds of Silence. It's riveting, It

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Speaker 2: truly is a riveting song. But today someone sent me

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Speaker 2: a little baby girl it must have been four or

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Speaker 2: five years old, singing to her father on I think

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Speaker 2: it was Britain Scott Talent that song, and it almost

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Speaker 2: puts tears to your eyes. There's hope for this country,

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Speaker 2: there's hope for this planet. I'm convinced of that, aren't you.

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Speaker 5: I am convinced. I am convinced of that.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you know that's the thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's what's great about art, George. You know, yeah, the

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Speaker 3: music right now. Yes, those things they can hit home,

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Speaker 3: they can touch you emotionally, and that's what's great about

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Speaker 3: storytelling and art and imagination, because imagination, George, is essential.

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Speaker 3: You know, I have an enormous imagination because of some

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Speaker 3: But imagination, it's a blueprint for progress, George.

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Speaker 5: Because everything we have ever.

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Speaker 3: Created, from fire to flight to the Internet that we

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Speaker 3: were talking about a while back, began as imagination. Without it,

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Speaker 3: we're just stuck in survival mode, George, repeating the same

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Speaker 3: stuff over and over now dire days. Imagination it's the

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Speaker 3: difference between life and death, okay. And Mason's ability to

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Speaker 3: think differently, to imagine coexistence instead of domination is what

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Speaker 5: A new world or any world where you know, for.

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Speaker 2: That matter, Let's go to Joe in Monterey, California. Joseph,

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Speaker 2: take it away. Thank you, George. I want to know.

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Speaker 6: If your guest that's a Jason, if he does any

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Speaker 6: research uh to give validity or to give a a

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Speaker 6: a foundation uh in science of course, that the reader

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Speaker 6: can understand and see the reality. Also, when I went

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Speaker 6: writing and stuff, one of my courses, the teacher said,

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Speaker 6: the purpose.

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Speaker 2: Of the sci fi writer is to.

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Speaker 4: Warn the people of a possible future.

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Speaker 6: Is there any whistleblowers in your books and what they

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Speaker 6: go through to warn the people? Because there has to

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Speaker 6: that the solution always comes before the problem. Thank you,

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Speaker 6: George for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: I would say, Michela Mason is that person? Jason? Would you?

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Speaker 5: That's a great quest. Great question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's one of the whistleblowers.

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Speaker 5: She's part of the.

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Speaker 3: Faction that leads the you know, leads based the is

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Speaker 3: They are the whistleblowers in the book. And also to

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Speaker 3: We did as much as we could to be able

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Speaker 3: We probably spent more time, Joe on research than we

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Speaker 2: Next up, Cornelius and Louisiana. Welcome to the show. Hi Cornelius, Hey, and.

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Speaker 7: George and Jayson. Boy, he got me fired up. But look,

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Speaker 7: Jason and you admitted that you're a Jew, and I

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Speaker 7: support the Jews because I believe in the Jewish Jesus,

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Speaker 7: the Judge that's coming. And I read the Bible, and

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Speaker 7: I believe the Bible predicts everything from Revelation to Matthew

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Speaker 7: twenty four to Luke twenty one. So my question for you,

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Speaker 7: they called me the god guns of gold Man, the Bible,

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Speaker 7: bullets and beans man down there in voodoo hoodoo. And

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Speaker 7: he can you can tell he supports a Moss and

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna name the caller, but so what do

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Speaker 7: you think is the Bible true or not? About dire

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Speaker 7: days coming? And I believe that AI is anti christ intelligence.

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Speaker 7: So do you believe in the Bible and do you

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Speaker 7: believe that in times are coming? Thank you George and Jason.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you Cornelius.

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Speaker 3: I've heard you on the show before call in many times,

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Speaker 3: so it's it's a pleasure to finally meet you.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for the call and the questions.

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Speaker 3: Do I believe in the Bible absolutely, even though I'm Jewish,

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Speaker 3: I do believe in the Bible because Jesus was born

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Speaker 3: a Jew and what he wanted to do was just

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Speaker 3: leave you know, Judaism and start a whole new religion.

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Speaker 3: So absolutely I believe in in the Bible. Do I

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Speaker 3: think Dire Days is a prediction for the end of times? Yes,

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Speaker 3: And that's why I wrote it, because you know, science

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Speaker 3: fiction allows us to explore these what ifs, Cornelius inside

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Speaker 3: our minds without actually having to go through the death

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Speaker 3: and destruction and the global wars that are probably coming

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Speaker 3: in the next fifty to one hundred years.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for the call, Cornelius.

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Speaker 2: Now, Jason, they went to a planet Kepler four four

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Speaker 2: to two B and that is dying as well. How

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Speaker 2: long were they on that planet.

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Speaker 3: Not too terribly long, Not as long as we were

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Speaker 3: on Earth.

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Speaker 5: Not as long as we were on Earth.

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Speaker 3: Because Dire Days itself, even though we found it on

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Speaker 3: the other side of the universe and it's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's inhabitable, and you know, it still wasn't as in

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Speaker 3: great condition as Earth was after the Big Bang, so

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Speaker 3: well we got there, it wasn't in great shape, but

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Speaker 3: because we never learned our lessons from ancient Earth. We

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Speaker 3: just kept doing what we were doing until finally it

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Speaker 3: was too late for kept.

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Speaker 2: Four Suzanne, and Minneapolis is with us. Hi, sus go ahead, Hy.

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Speaker 8: Jorge, Hi, Jason, Jason. I'm a medium and I connected

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Speaker 8: with nine to eleven people. I've probably gone over fifty

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Speaker 8: eight readings for families, and they all came through with

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Speaker 8: the same message that they died for Pete and I'm

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Speaker 8: just finishing a book about it now. But they explained

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Speaker 8: to me how how to find peace. And they told

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Speaker 8: me that it was going to get worse before it

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Speaker 8: got better, which is what's happening. And but they told

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Speaker 8: me that there is going to be peace.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of that, Jason, Well, Suzanne, that's

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Speaker 3: that's heavy.

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Speaker 5: I think you're right. Things always seem to get worse

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Speaker 5: before they get better. Susanne.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you referenced nine to eleven. I got a couple

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Speaker 3: of stories about nine to eleven. One my best friend,

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Speaker 3: and his boss told him he was on the ninety eighth.

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Speaker 3: They all say, everyone stays still don't move, Everything's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna be okay.

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Speaker 3: Now, a few of my friend and his coworkers, they said,

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Speaker 3: we're not staying here. They ran down ninety eight flights

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Speaker 3: of stairs, got out, survived, everyone else in the company died.

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Speaker 5: And then he became.

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Speaker 3: A religious person from basically the next day on because

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Speaker 3: he feels that God spared his life. And then my uncle,

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Speaker 3: he was in tower or building seven. He got out

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Speaker 3: and he ran across the Brooklyn Bridge and he survived himself.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, things can get really, really bad. But the

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Speaker 3: silver lining is once they get so bad, there's nowhere

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Speaker 3: else to go down.

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Speaker 5: You have nowhere else to go but up.

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