1 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Fulcoming the jag Vam presented by Jet Home Loans. Today, 2 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: we are back in our studio after our two weeks 3 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: away in London. Brian Sexton and John Oser joined me 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: as we get ready for the Packers this week. But 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: we're also gonna recap a little bit of what went 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: down in London, specifically that second game against the Patriots. 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: Let's start out with big things. Big thing number one 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be about being tough enough. They were just 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: tough enough to beat the Patriots, fell down ten nothing early, 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: but able to battle their way back tank things. We 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: talked about having fun and kind of feeding off of 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: each other in the game. 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: We worked hard this week after we lost when we 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: fir the first game down, we did a lot of 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: work this weekend, leaning on each other and said we 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: gotta go out. 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: And have fun. 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: And uh, I feel like we got back to having 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: fun often start picking it up, and I felt like 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: defense found off the energy and then we felt the 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: energy and it just kept going. So that's the contagious 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: think about this game, when when one side clicked the 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: other side to get going, and that's the best thing 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: about it. I feel like we all clicked and we 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: just got to keep doing it. 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: Brian. We saw the offense respond falling down ten nothing early, 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: but then battling back. We haven't seen a ton of 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: that this year. That was good to see, and in 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 1: way of their win, it was and they. 30 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: Were tough enough for the Patriots. We're gonna find out. 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: I mean, they've got a stretch here with teams that 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: have won at least five games for the next four 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 4: or five weeks, so we'll find out if they're tough 34 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: enough for the Packers, who are a much different team altogether. 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: But I thought Mitch Moore said it best. John He 36 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: talked about how they were down ten and they talked 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: to each other in the huddle about not thinking we 38 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: had to go get all ten points in this drive 39 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: with you obviously can't do it anyway, but you know, 40 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: let's get some points. And then it began, let's get 41 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: the field goal. And then they got to the you know, 42 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: the ten yard line, right, let's get a touchdown, and 43 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: they did and from that point they kind of got 44 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: on a roll and went up twenty five to ten. 45 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: So they can be tough, but it's kind of like 46 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: muscle memory. I mean, you've got to be able to 47 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 4: go right to toughness mode when things get difficult, and 48 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 4: we'll find out on Sunday against Green Bay if they've 49 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 4: got that kind of toughness memory. 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, you can say all you want, well, 51 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 5: the Patriots are one and six. They're not this, They're 52 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 5: not this. You play who you play. The Patriots certainly 53 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: had enough to get up on them. I don't know 54 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 5: if the Jaguars are great, but I think this game 55 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 5: on Sunday, meaning the Patriots game, it gave them a 56 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: chance to earn a chance. I mean, you're two and five. 57 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 5: If you get a couple here, then all of a 58 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 5: sudden you get back to four and five. So they 59 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 5: have a lot of proving to do. On Sunday comes 60 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 5: their chance to prove it. I don't know kai if 61 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 5: they proved anything to anybody on Sunday, but boy, they 62 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 5: needed a win. 63 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: They absolutely needed. Big thing Number two is going to 64 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: be the switch up when we talk about that win. 65 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Things didn't go great for the defense. That's an issue 66 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: that's a big issue for this team so far this season. 67 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell back on the fields the first time in 68 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: a while. He talked about that start and how the 69 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: team came together to get things back on track. 70 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: You know, we had a lot of you know, silly 71 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: Pillindy's you know, a lot of just putting in a 72 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: lot of positions where we kind of like, you know, 73 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: gave 'em plays. But you know, you know, we huddled 74 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: up before a job. I think it was going into 75 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: the second quarter. You know, a hundred guys up. It's like, hey, 76 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: it's us. You know, just as long as you play smart, 77 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: have fun, played to the wizard, they can't beat us. 78 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: And uh from sixty you got a result we wanted. 79 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: John Tyson Campbell's returned to the secondary. They desperately needed that. 80 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: We also saw some other changes elsewhere on the defensive 81 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: side of the football. Didn't start great, but they finished better. 82 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. It I it's funny how perception is in this league. 83 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 5: And I I think what I'm getting, ah there is 84 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 5: Tyson had a chance. 85 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: I think it a pick. 86 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: Andre Saisko had a chance to pick. I think, if 87 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 5: I remember it right, you get those picks, you're off 88 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 5: the field. And this concern the defense is so much 89 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 5: different moving forward. I don't think this is a great defense, 90 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 5: but when it has its hands on the balls, they 91 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 5: need to make the plays at some point. I think 92 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 5: the Packers have like seventeen takeaways, Jawarys have two Defensively, 93 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: that's what needs to start changing. When you have the 94 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 5: opportunities to make plays, this defense has to make them, 95 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden the runs that the 96 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 5: other team get don't seem so tragic, right. 97 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: I want to see what they do next, right, because 98 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 4: they tweak some things and it worked in the secondary. 99 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: They moved Eric Armstead I think inside more than we've 100 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 4: seen him kai and he was productive. But they got 101 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: to fix the problem that they've got at linebacker. It 102 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: doesn't appear that Devin Lloyd can cover a tight end, 103 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: and I don't know all the coverage, so it might 104 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: not always be on him. But they struggled the last 105 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 4: two weeks against tight ends, and they're gonna keep seeing 106 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: it and seeing it and seeing it. They are going 107 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 4: to have to be able to cover the underneath. The 108 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: one thing that you do see from the Buffalo game 109 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 4: four it is they attack the edges of the Jaguars 110 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: defense and try to make guys run sideways, and they 111 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 4: haven't done a very good job in covering that tight 112 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 4: end position. Hopefully, Foyer Luakon can get back in the 113 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: game and the Jaguars can shift things around and try 114 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: something different with that group. 115 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: That leads us into our final big thing, which is 116 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: backup plan. The twenty one day practice window was opened 117 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: for linebacker Foyer Luiken and also safety Andrew Wingard. He's 118 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: been out since early in training camp, so Brian, a 119 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 1: little help is on the way, and this may change 120 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: some of the other things we've seen even more. 121 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have got to figure some things out. We 122 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: have seen what the change at safety did with Darnielle 123 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 4: Savage getting in there. This Dewey's a really good player 124 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: and he's got a role on this team and they 125 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: have missed having him out there. A Luakon, He's not 126 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: a star, but he's a really good player and he 127 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: gets guys lined up. And perhaps that's what's missing, is 128 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: that person that checks into coverages and Devin doesn't do 129 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 4: it as well as Foyer does. I think Ventre Miller 130 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: is a guy who goes forward and makes tackles really well, 131 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: but he's still figuring the coverage part out. So maybe 132 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 4: having Foyer Lucon next to him John helps him get settled. 133 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the NFL these days is not as 134 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 5: full of instinctive football players as it was when I 135 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 5: was growing up. Now, get off my lawn. But that 136 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 5: being said, I think this defense needs guys like that. 137 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: I think Ventre Miller's that to our point right now. 138 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 5: I think Andrew Inguard and Foya Lucan are two of 139 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 5: the more instinctive playmaking have a good feel for their 140 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 5: surroundings guys on this defense. On that front, getting those 141 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: guys back will help immeasurably when you've got guys who 142 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 5: know where they need to be. 143 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, stay with's here on Jagson. We're gonna 144 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: go over some of the best plays from the DAGs 145 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: win in London over the Patriots. 146 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 6: They were in basically a cover four quarters look and 147 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 6: safeties were low, and that was honestly the look we 148 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 6: were wanting for that play, and we had another option 149 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 6: if if that wasn't the coverage and the situation. But 150 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 6: Brian did a great job of just running at the 151 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 6: corner of keeping outside leverage and just running and then 152 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 6: I'd put it out there, let him go make a 153 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 6: players a great catch. You know, he's he's good at that. 154 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 6: He's been making a lot of plays for us, So 155 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 6: it's fun to watch him, it's fun to play with him, 156 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 6: and just to see him get better every week. 157 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: We gotta keep using him. 158 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: Welcome back to jag Zam, brought to you by Fields 159 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: Auto Group in Jacksonville. And Trevor Lawrence talking right there 160 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: about that catch by Brian Thomas Junior. Probably the prettiest 161 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: play I saw in that game. But we'll go over 162 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: some other stuff as well, but just a beautiful throw 163 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: and catch, and it's nice to see that connection with them. 164 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Obviously Brian's a rookie, but sometimes Trevor has you know, 165 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: it takes time to build up that relationship with the 166 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: quarterback and then he clearly trusts him already. 167 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: People heard the term playing above the axis and o's 168 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: I mean that's what Brian Thomas does. I mean he 169 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: makes a play when it doesn't execute perfectly right, like 170 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: that ball was thrown and the defensive back, John was 171 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 4: in the one place where he could make a play, 172 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: and Brian still managed, while going to the ground to 173 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: pull the ball in and not lose it when his 174 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: body hit the ground. It was tremendous play on the fundamentals, 175 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: But more so than that, he just was and made it. 176 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 5: It would have been easy had he not caught it. 177 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 5: You to say, well, yeah, tough catch too tough. I 178 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 5: absolutely Brian Thomas Junior is him and Tank dagsby the 179 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 5: stories of the season so far. But credit to Trevor too. 180 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 5: He as you said, Brian, there was nothing wrong with 181 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 5: that throw. It was perfectly placed. Remember three weeks ago 182 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: when he missed it. Everybody, well everybody in the world 183 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 5: said this kid can't throw deep. Well, that was overreactionary. 184 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 5: He can clearly throw deep. He's thrown fine deep the 185 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 5: last couple of weeks, and he he's steadied the ship 186 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 5: even when the team has not been playing great the 187 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 5: last two or three weeks. It's won, but I wouldn't 188 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 5: say that they have been outstanding. He's done a nice 189 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 5: job of steadying the ship when there was a lot 190 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 5: of noise going on in the ship. 191 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: Well, and he listened. He's mentally tough because he missed 192 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: Brian on that sideline route at Tottenham against the Bears, 193 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: and you could just see the look on his face. 194 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: And the next week he comes back fearlessly throws the 195 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: ball right down and Gonzales was right with him. Gonzales 196 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: can really run the quarterback for the Patriots, and he 197 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: just he put the ball out there and went for it. 198 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: So I would to give him credit because he questioned 199 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: his team and their mental toughness and talked about fragility 200 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: and then he went out there and did not play fragile. 201 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: Did not play fragile at all. Let's look at some 202 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: of the highlights from the game, or some of the 203 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: big plays. At least we talked about the team getting 204 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: down early. Right, the Patriots scored on their first possession, 205 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: and the way they scored wasn't really pretty either, at 206 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: some sort of defensive breakdown on that play. It was 207 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: just and for me, I was concerned with their mental 208 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: state because of how they've been dealing with getting down 209 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: early and fighting back having been able to do that, 210 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: but proved me wrong. Absolutely. I almost appreciate the fact 211 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: that they did get down early and had to battle 212 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: back because it proved that proved to me that they 213 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: have it within them to do that. 214 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes when you're playing a team that doesn't quite 215 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 5: know what it is yet, and I think the Patriots 216 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 5: fit that. The Patriots are still trying to figure it out. 217 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 5: So on this drive, it felt like they were doing 218 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: things that maybe they hadn't seen on film a whole lot. Yeah, 219 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 5: made a couple of plays, got it. That happens, And 220 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: what good teams do in that situation they figure it out, 221 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 5: they stop, and then you realize very quickly who the 222 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 5: better team is. It happened exactly the opposite for the 223 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 5: Jaguar week before that. As soon as the Bears figured 224 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 5: them out in Tottenham, you said, oh, this is a 225 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: problem an overmatched team. It felt that way at Tottenham 226 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 5: for the Jaguars, it felt that way very quickly. And 227 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 5: second quarter on Sunday. 228 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: You know, that was a case. You've got a defense 229 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: that's not getting pressure with the front four, and that's 230 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 4: what Ryan Nielsen's scheme is about, so you can play 231 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 4: man coverage on the back end. And so they tried 232 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 4: some sort of a zone blitz kind of scheme that 233 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: had Josh running across the field to get out there. 234 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it was a mismatch and it was the 235 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 4: wrong play call at the wrong time because you saw 236 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: the play that Patriots just ran out there. I mean, 237 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: you hate to see that because you want to see 238 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: Josh attacking the quarterback. But if you're not getting there 239 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 4: and you want to try things and you want guys 240 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 4: to be innovative and try to find a moment. That 241 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: was what they did. It just was the wrong moment. 242 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I Josh could have gotten some better help. 243 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 5: He actually at his angle. I thought he made the 244 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 5: right play trying to force back inside. 245 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: And behind me. Yeah, absolutely, that happens. Let's talk a 246 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: little bit more about Trevor. He also had a great 247 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: throw to Kirk over the middle in this game. I 248 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: think was probably one of his best throws of the day, 249 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: leading to their first touchdown of the game. And we 250 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: know Trevor can make these throws, but it's always nice 251 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: to see him do it on stages like this when 252 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: you need it. Right, we just talked about you had 253 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: to come down and score on this drive to keep 254 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: it within range and to make that put it in 255 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: the perfect spot for Kirk and then finished off we'll touchdown. 256 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: First quarter, they had five plays, right, I mean in 257 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: twenty five yards and so this is their second drive 258 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 4: and you're like, hey, this is really important because you're 259 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 4: down ten nothing and to hit his back foot there 260 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 4: on second and long and just let the ball go, 261 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: and of course it's no surprise that he threw rite 262 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: a Christian Kirk, the guy he probably has the most 263 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 4: confidence in being where he's supposed to be. 264 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of big time plays there. He threw 265 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 5: to the second level at Kirk and threw over. I 266 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 5: think it was a safety maybe linebacker. Really precise throw 267 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 5: that's tougher to make than it looks what is completed. 268 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 5: It looks easy, but it's a tough throw to make. 269 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: And then they scored I think on third down in 270 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 5: the red zone. That's hard to do. I remember they 271 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 5: didn't do it the week before when, but they executed 272 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 5: the play with Gabe Davis. If they're starting, that's some 273 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 5: pretty good execution red zone wise. I mean, I'm even 274 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: gonna call it good execution on the drop against the 275 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 5: Bears because the play was there. They seem to be 276 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: getting a little more precise in the red zone. That's 277 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 5: important and it could pay off if they start getting 278 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: in games as they go on. 279 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the video of that throw 280 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: to Brian Thomas Jr. That we referenced off the top, 281 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: because it really is just I was sitting next to 282 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: John and I saw him getting ready to throw it, 283 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: and I was excited to see the jump ball aspect 284 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: of it, because as you mentioned, Brian Christian Gonzalez is 285 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: the first round pick their top corner there in New 286 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: England of a defense last year that was very, very good, 287 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: and he played it about as precisely as you could. 288 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: And there's so many aspects to it. When you see 289 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: the different angles of just kind of looking over his 290 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: shoulder to get it bringing it in even with the 291 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: hand on top of him, and then just perfect placement 292 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: from where Brian was going to be it was. 293 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 4: And when you see some of the various angles of 294 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 4: how the bawl shifted and brought had to get between 295 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 4: the arm of Gonzales that was there and pull it in. 296 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 4: But I want to point out the blocking because that's 297 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 4: a big throw and you've got to be able to 298 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: wind up and make that throw from deep in the pocket, 299 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 4: and if there had been any leakage in the protection 300 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 4: at all, he wouldn't have had the time to do that. 301 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: The offensive line is playing better football than they have 302 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: at any point of the season. And by the way, 303 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: was Cam in on that throw or had Cam already 304 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: left the game? 305 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: Was? 306 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? So I mean to have a backup left tackle 307 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: holding his own out there and to have everybody else 308 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: playing well. The offensive line gave him a chance to 309 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 4: do that. 310 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: Look, how many more games in a row does Brian 311 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 5: Thomas have to do special before he just realized is 312 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: what he is. I think everybody realizes that he does 313 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: something each game. The catch on the two point conversion 314 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 5: is a big time catch. He has a knack here 315 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: in big situations coming down with the ball that this 316 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 5: team hasn't had. It's Jimmy right, right, So you've now 317 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 5: gotten to the point with this kid where when he 318 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 5: has single coverage, throw him up, throw the ball up 319 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 5: and see what happens. They haven't had that definitely since 320 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: I've been back in twenty eleven, but I guess since 321 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 5: Jimmy in two and four five. 322 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: Well, there was that sequence in the second quarter where 323 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: they handed it to him on a reverse and they 324 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: threw it to him short. I mean they gave him 325 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: the ball three or four different times in five or 326 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: six plays, and you could just see the suddenness, the twitchiness, 327 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: the explosiveness waiting to come through for him, and he 328 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 4: just couldn't. They had it defended just well enough, but 329 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 4: you just get the SATs. John just keep giving the ball, 330 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: keep giving the ball. It's gonna be you know, three three, 331 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: bam sixty three. 332 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 5: Well, so many times this year, early in the season, 333 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 5: he had big plays on three of their four early touchdowns. 334 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 5: The other day he caught the touchdown, he had fifty 335 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 5: eight yarders set the second touchdown, and then after Parker 336 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 5: Washington's score, he had the two point conversion. This kid's 337 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 5: in involved in special in big. 338 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: Moments, just what we need, absolutely, especially at a first 339 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: round pick. Let's talk a little bit about Parker Washington's 340 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: record setting punt return for them. That was a huge punt. 341 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: He was backing up and I was a little concerned 342 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: about it, but he must have. He clearly had the 343 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: vision to see the giant holes in front of him, 344 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: and before you know, he was all the way through 345 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: and there was nobody near him except the punter, and 346 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: then he beat him. 347 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 5: But there was some football since there too, Brian. He 348 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 5: mentioned in the post game he knew that the Patriots 349 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: punter was out kicking the coverage, so he figured that 350 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 5: he was going to get a chance for a return 351 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 5: if he caught it. I haven't asked Doug about it, 352 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 5: but I'm sure at first, he was like okay, good, yeah, yeah, 353 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 5: it's one of those plays because if you let it go, 354 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 5: you had field position. But they haven't had enough plays 355 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 5: like this where something above the x's and o's went 356 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 5: their way. And again, a second year player with some 357 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 5: football since he makes a play. 358 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: I mean, the rule is you don't feel the punt 359 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: inside the five yard line and there are no rules. Well, 360 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: apparently he can break through. Analytics change all that. I 361 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: just want to point out that that's the Jaguars backup 362 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 4: p return. Devin Duvernet, the free agent they signed from 363 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens, is on injured reserve, and so you 364 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 4: put Parker out there and he comes up with a play, 365 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 4: I think maybe you should be your primary pup return. 366 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: I think this clearly has given him confidence. This is 367 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: something we talked about with the younger players, whether its 368 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Tank at certain points or now Parker Washington trying to 369 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: get them confident because he's had ball security issues as well, 370 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: which I think has been maybe why they were hesitant 371 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: at points and maybe why they signed Devin Duvernet in 372 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: the off season. But clearly he's shown that he has 373 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: that special playability to be able to flip the field 374 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: or even score for them, so hopefully getting better as 375 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: we go along. 376 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 4: I'd also like to see if maybe that doesn't get 377 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 4: him a greater role in the offense because we know 378 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 4: that he's got that suddenness, that quickness. I mean, he's 379 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: not going to stretch the field like Brian Thomas does, 380 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 4: but underneath, I mean, you get a mismatch with him 381 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 4: on a linebacker if you can get that. I'm no 382 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, just see a guy who make things happen. 383 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough to get him in the offense because 384 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 5: he's so much like Christian in a lot of ways 385 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 5: that in the packages, it's hard to get Christian out 386 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 5: and him in. But he's earning, no question. 387 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe utilize him kind of in the where they 388 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: use ETN sometimes because he's going to be out for 389 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: a little bit with his hamstring injury. See going forward, 390 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: of course, we couldn't go through a game without Doug 391 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: Peterson wanting to go for it on a fourth down. 392 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: Of the analytics probably say don't do that, But in 393 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: my heart and soul I knew Doug wasn't going to 394 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: be able to not do it. Is it just him 395 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: being consistent at this point, like maybe the players just 396 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: want to be on the same page with them two, 397 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: or he doesn't have an ability. 398 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know where to go with There's other 399 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: than you have a chance with a football team that 400 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 4: desperately needed to win, that he desperately wanted to build 401 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: some confidence with to go up three scores, and instead 402 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: you gave them a chance to hit a thirty three 403 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: yard play, a thirty two yard play, and a twenty 404 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 4: two yard touchdown, and if they'd hit the extra point, 405 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: they would have gone from potentially being in a three 406 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: score game to a one. Hey, you just kick the 407 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: field goal and get your team to the victory lane 408 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: right with the win and talk about it. I just 409 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 4: that I didn't like at all. 410 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: Well, every fiber in what we grew up on Ryan 411 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 5: tells you to go up that many, and I certainly 412 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 5: would have the I'm sure what Doug was thinking is 413 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: we have just run seventeen plays. They were in the 414 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 5: midst of what like seventeen straight runs. Yeah, he felt 415 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 5: like they were overpowering it. Let's show confidence in this 416 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 5: offensive line that has been bashed. 417 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 4: I'm not saying i'd have done it. 418 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 5: I think that was his thinking, and in that case 419 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 5: I couldn't agree with it, but I answer was thinking. 420 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 4: I get that, and I know who he is because 421 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 4: I've watched him too, and I can go back to 422 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: the two point conversion against the Ravens in twenty twenty two. 423 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 4: But that was a different story. This is a team 424 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 4: that we talked all week long about about fighting till 425 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: the end and about being strong and not fragile, and 426 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: it just seemed to me that it was too good 427 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: of an opportunity to put your team in a chance 428 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: to go out there or we're gonna play defense now 429 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 4: with an eighteen point lead. There are times where you 430 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: can let your ego right and the moment I want 431 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: to slam it through, but you missed on third down 432 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 4: in one. So come on, let's let our football intellect, 433 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 4: which Doug has an abundance of. I've heard him talk. 434 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 4: He knows that. I just they won, so it isn't 435 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: an issue. But that was a case where you kick, Oh, it's. 436 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: Easier to go over after a win. 437 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 7: That's right. 438 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: Sure, stay with us here on JAGSA. I'm coming up 439 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: after the break. We'll do a little this or that 440 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: as we look into some potential changes next week. For 441 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: eleven years, Dreamfinders' Homes have been proud to call themselves 442 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: the official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 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But Walker Little coming in as Cam Robinson 453 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: out with a concussion. He's in the concussion protocol. We 454 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: don't know when he will get cleared, but Walker Little 455 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: played pretty well yesterday. 456 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 5: Ryan. 457 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: Do you keep him in there? Do you ride the 458 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: hot hand or do you put Cam Robinson back when 459 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: he's ready? 460 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 4: Well, I mean you heard Doug after the game say 461 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 4: that he believed the Travis etn was still the starting 462 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 4: running back because you don't lose your job to injury. 463 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: So we know what the head coach's philosophy is here. 464 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: I advocated early on when Cam was struggling to put 465 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 4: Walker Little in because Walker Little is playing for a contract. 466 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 4: Now you can argue that Cam Little is too, because 467 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: they're both free agents. Cam's gotten paid, Walker hasn't. Walker's 468 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: trying to get that buy to the Apple and tackles 469 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 4: make big money. I'm I'm betting John on on the 470 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: human condition that hunger and desperation gives me a guy 471 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 4: who will go out and play his best football. And 472 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: by the way, you drafted him with the second round pick, 473 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: as you're expected by some token, he would be your 474 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 4: left tackle of the future. 475 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think they're fine if Walker plays. 476 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 5: I don't for a minute that he's gonna believe that 477 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 5: he's going to play over a healthy Cam Robinson, because 478 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 5: Camer Robinson I still think is the best left tackle 479 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 5: on the team, and because. 480 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: Of Doug's philosophy. 481 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 5: So what'll be interesting on Sunday is if Walker Little plays, 482 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 5: does that affect the chemistry and cohesion they've been talking about. 483 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 5: I don't think it will. I think they're in a 484 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: good situation because he's played seventeen games for this team 485 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 5: and he's played a lot, so I don't worry about that. 486 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 5: I think they have a unique situation and they can 487 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 5: have that with six or seven guys and not just five. 488 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: It is interesting because this general manager drafted Walker little 489 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 4: and you've got two tackles relieving, you know, at least 490 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: as of right now. Wouldn't you like to find out 491 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 4: if this young player is who you thought he was? 492 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: Do you give him more time in the starting lineup 493 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: so you can make a proper evaluation for your future, 494 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 4: especially in a year that you're two and five and 495 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 4: skating uphill to try to get into the playoffs. 496 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: Anyway, something to keep an eye on that certainly is 497 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: best position as well. As we mentioned, we've seen Walker 498 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: play at different parts of the line. Left tackles clearly 499 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: where he plays his best, So we'll keep an eye 500 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: on that and Cam Robinson's status coming up this week 501 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: against the Packers. My other this or that going to 502 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: be about the linebackers. We told you that Boya Luikin's 503 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: practice window is open. He's missed a month with planter fasciitis, 504 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: but he should be available soon. We've seen him around 505 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: the team a lot, so when it comes to your linebackers. Guys, 506 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: what's this going to look like? Foyer, I assume is 507 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: definitely one of your starters. But Devin Lloyd, Ventral Miller 508 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: has been making plays. You think they'll do something similar 509 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: to what they've been doing with Darby and Monterrek Brown 510 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: and kind of splitting them up, or you think it'll 511 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: be an obvious two starters. 512 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 5: I think they'll continue to rotate. But Brian, I can't 513 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 5: believe that they won't balance it toward Ventrel playing more. 514 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 5: I mean, he the Devin Lroy hasn't been heard. Vnrell 515 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 5: has outplayed him. 516 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 4: He's played very well. 517 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 5: I mean, you can make an argument that Vintrell is 518 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: the most instinctive playmaker, you know, fun, having all that 519 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 5: stuff that you want to see out of a linebacker. 520 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 5: They've had here in a while, maybe including Foyer. Now 521 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 5: Foyer has been better and more consistent, knows the defense. 522 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 5: You don't bench foyleer Luke, I'm totally. 523 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 4: Get at that. 524 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 5: But Ventrell Miller, it's hard to argue that he shouldn't 525 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 5: be on the field. 526 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: It's Miller you watch, and you don't have to be 527 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 4: any sort of an expert to know that when he 528 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: hits people they go down. I so desperately would love 529 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 4: to see Devin Lloyd reach his potential. You know, you 530 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: don't see many six foot three and forty pounds linebackers 531 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: because those guys become edge rushers in college football these 532 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 4: days and don't pass through the linebacker. He's got the height, 533 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: he's got the length, he's got the speed. I like 534 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 4: him a lot, but it always seems where there's an error, 535 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 4: thirty three is somewhere there. So I think he's I 536 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: think he's got to go to the sidelines in favor 537 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 4: of Ventro Miller and try to fix his game. 538 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, team's key on Devin. They know that he's going 539 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 5: to do that. When presented with certain situations, he's going 540 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 5: to bite. He's been doing it too long now, so again, 541 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 5: I would just be surprised if it's not Ventro Miller 542 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 5: playing a lot more. 543 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: You know, they gave Devin a sack for the hit 544 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 4: that he made on Drake may right at the line 545 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 4: of scrimmage. He hit it with such force I thought, 546 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 4: all right, that's what I want to see from thirty three, 547 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: and then he got turned around by the tight ends. 548 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: Just Ventro Miller is a better linebacker. 549 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: Right now, all right, we'll see what that looks like. Also, 550 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: we know the way Ryan Nielsen substitutes. It might be 551 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: a split thing. We might see a lot of different 552 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: combinations going forward, but keeping an eye on that as well. 553 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: You can maybe activated this week as practice window is open. 554 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: So with here we will talk to you about what 555 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: we've got coming up this week before the Packers game. 556 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: Jags fans, if you want customized Jaguars furniture for your home, 557 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: check out zipchare dot com to browse all the customizable options. 558 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: Zip Chair is furniture for fans. Today's episode also brought 559 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: to you by Florida Blue, proud to be the exclusive 560 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: health insurance partner and support the Jacksonville community as the 561 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: official community partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 562 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: Inside the take it down, Get down. 563 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 7: The door, let's go, let's get it. Let's that's what 564 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 7: we do. 565 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: It's Tank Bigsby miked up against the Patriots. If you 566 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: haven't checked it out, I highly recommend it. It's very entertaining. 567 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: At every Jaguars dot com or Jaguars YouTube you can 568 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: check that out. Tank miked up and we're gonna hear 569 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: from Tank a little bit later in the week as 570 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: well with you John. 571 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, and hear me on the ozone podcast, and frankly, 572 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 5: a big topic is going to be how I stuck 573 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 5: with him when other people on this show might. 574 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: Not a little pat Little Patty, I stuck with him too. 575 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 4: I was talking about no, I was talking about the 576 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 4: ten Carrie stretch in December where he averaged six yards 577 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 4: of carry. Is a don't give up on him. 578 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody on this show was a very 579 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: supportive program as a parent. 580 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: Well, we can go back and both the tank because 581 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 4: we've got all of that. I probably never get tired 582 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 4: of watching Ezra Cleveland pushing him up the field. 583 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: That's offensive line, let's do it. I'm checking in with 584 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior going off the field this week, so 585 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. And yeah, I'm just excited to 586 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: kind of see what this week brings us in terms 587 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: of preparation, and it's nice to have a victory week 588 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: going into things. We will be back with you on 589 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: Thursday morning. We'll get dive deep into that matchup against 590 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: the Packers exactly what we can expect. So we'll see 591 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: you tomorrow.