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Speaker 2: We've been doing the division by division preview for fantasy football. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But we're talking about the AFC South today and trying

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Speaker 2: to find some sex, appeal to it and excitement. Well

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Speaker 2: it's a little difficult. Texans are the favorite to win

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Speaker 2: the division. Latest odds. I'm looking at Vegas Insider plus

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Speaker 2: one ten Jaguars at plus two to sixty, the wishing wanting,

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Speaker 2: hoping that Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence will find some magic.

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Speaker 3: The Colts at plus three.

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Speaker 2: Fifty Daniel Jones, we'll get to him in a second,

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Speaker 2: and then the Tennessee Titans bringing up the rear plus

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Speaker 2: eight hundred. Welcome to the NFL, cam Ward. Those are

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Speaker 2: your divisional odds. But you start looking at it for

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Speaker 2: fantasy purposes and trying to find some value. And there's

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Speaker 2: players that we like, Don't get me wrong, It just

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Speaker 2: becomes for fantasy value. Where do we find them? The

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Speaker 2: quarterback position wherever? You know, whenever we start these process,

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Speaker 2: like you and I have been doing this a long time,

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Speaker 2: so we might look more to the run game.

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Speaker 3: We still love our three yards in.

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Speaker 2: A class absolutely, but in the new look NFL of

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Speaker 2: PPR leagues and four forty five hundred yard passers all

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Speaker 2: over the place, we looked at the quarterbacks. You realize

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Speaker 2: nobody from this division is ranked higher than eighteenth at

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Speaker 2: the position. C. J. Stroud comes in at number eighteen,

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Speaker 2: just ahead of Trevor Lawrence, with a little bit of

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Speaker 4: And when you look at what the Texans have this year,

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Speaker 4: there's it's a lot. It's a much different feel than

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Speaker 4: it was a year ago because c J. Stroud was

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Speaker 4: coming off of that great rookie season Mike and you

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Speaker 4: had Nico Collins there, you had Tank Dell there, and

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Speaker 4: you had the addition of Stefan Diggs. This was a

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Speaker 4: brought in. I wasn't completely sold on that. Mixon was

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Speaker 4: magnificent for them last year. Diggs got hurt, Tank Dell

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Speaker 4: his own thing, and so talk about you know, the

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Speaker 4: and this is a team, by the way, it did

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Speaker 4: make the playoffs and a playoff game, but there were

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Speaker 4: such high expectations coming into last season and the Texans

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Speaker 4: help a ranking like that, if that would help the

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Speaker 4: Houston Texans because you add Nick Chubb, this offseason. You

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Speaker 4: still have Joe mix In there, but the wide receiver position,

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Speaker 4: Nico Collins clearly the number one there, and then he

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Speaker 4: drafted a lot of younger guys that can find their spots.

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Speaker 4: I think that could help the Houston Texans and help

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Speaker 2: You know, it's fun trying to figure out cause and

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Speaker 2: trying to evaluate, well, that one's seventy percent on him,

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Speaker 3: And for CJ. Strado was a lot of that, right,

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Speaker 2: Of the lack of depth beyond Nico Collins went available?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were a much better offensive line and Stroud's

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Speaker 4: The Colts obviously have Quinton Nelson, but they lost key

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Speaker 4: Their previous two first round picks were linemen. They were

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Speaker 4: But this is a weird division when it comes to

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Speaker 2: And then we get to the curiosity, and when we

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Speaker 2: Stroud's slinging it again, how much does that pull back

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Speaker 4: So there's I mean, there's not a lot there to

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Speaker 4: combination of Mixon and Chubb right where maybe it's mixing

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Speaker 4: what they're looking for in that aspect. Jacksonville, your point

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Speaker 4: Even though Doug Peterson took over for Urban Meyer, I

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Speaker 4: still felt this Trevor Lawrence Travis Etn package sort of

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Speaker 4: tink Bigsby was just a better play. Now Liam Cohen's

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Speaker 4: there with no affiliation towards Travis Etn, And you wonder,

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Speaker 4: if Big B is just a better player, just play Bigsby.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, and then in Tennessee again, I don't want

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Speaker 4: there's just questions about the offensive line. Even though they've

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about room for what you're building towards

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Speaker 2: early you start implementing that because you know the active

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Speaker 2: tanking to it, it becomes part of the process. Because Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: by all accounts, we're still talking about a team that's

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Speaker 4: Mike Florida even just put on an article today of

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Speaker 4: shouldn't have the leeway of you're going to need two

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Speaker 4: I thought, hey, let Brian Callahan go in. Maybe this dips,

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Speaker 4: it goes worse before it gets better. But it's tough

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Speaker 4: just I don't know if he's going to be around.

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Speaker 2: You get an opportunity to rebuild it, all right. We

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Speaker 2: look at the wide receiver position. We do actually have

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Speaker 2: all of the problems and inconsistencies we've seen with Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: we saw him. The curiosity though, is in Jacksonville, not

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Speaker 2: It's the how high do you value Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't value him fantasy wise. I And this is

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Speaker 4: where I'm I'm so Brian Thomas. Last year, there was

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Speaker 4: podcast and you mentioned, You're like, right now, Brian Thomas

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Speaker 4: is second in the AFC and yards, and I'm like,

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Speaker 5: And then he ends up he.

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Speaker 4: Was at the time, and he ended up finishing second

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, So everything keeps coming back. You want Ryan Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday by Carbon Dan Byer with you doing

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Speaker 2: our fantasy preview going division to division. We're in the

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Speaker 2: AFC North for this week's edition and got some heavyweights

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Speaker 2: at each position. But I'm curious for one particular quarterback.

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Speaker 3: What do you do with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: I think there are top three intriguing team fantasy wise.

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Speaker 2: And current Fantasy pros number twenty eight. So that means

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Speaker 4: Even if he was higher Mike, there isn't the upside

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Speaker 4: doesn't It's still he wouldn't be he wouldn't be higher

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Speaker 5: Are you with me on.

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Speaker 3: That hundred percent?

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Speaker 2: He's to me an undraftable unless I'm in a deeper

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Speaker 5: What do you think of the Steelers tight ends? Like?

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Speaker 4: Is it because john Neus Smith's now there and Arthur

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Speaker 2: But yeah, eighty eight catches a year ago? What eight

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Speaker 4: I think the Steelers backfield is interesting Caleb Johnson over

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Speaker 2: Currently being drafted as an RB three, they're about the same.

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Speaker 2: as to war DK Metcalf ranks amongst wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: Za Flowers to me is maybe no different than Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 4: know what's happening with Trey Hendrickson. You know they made changes,

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Speaker 4: but Samar Stewart still hasn't signed. Likely, I think that'll

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Speaker 4: a little be resolved by the start of the season,

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Speaker 4: but you never know what the Cincinnati Bengals, so again,

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Speaker 4: if they're not stopping anyone, you know they're going to

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Speaker 4: have to score points. It's why I actually think that

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Speaker 4: Chase Brown is being completely undervalued because if they're getting

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Speaker 4: in shootouts like they were last year, and they did

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Speaker 4: make some changes on the offensive line, made a draft

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Speaker 4: pick year prior, they used a number one pick on

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Speaker 4: Amaria Simms. So you have like pieces on the offensive line.

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Speaker 4: They made a change with their offensive line coach, so

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Speaker 4: protect Joe Burrow and score points. Because that defense just

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Speaker 4: didn't stop anybody. And I can't think that it's going

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Speaker 4: to be anything different. I think I think Cincinnati is

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Speaker 4: just a fantasy jackpot all around.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, defense, she got little rid of lou Anarumo

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Speaker 2: last after last year's debacle. I just want to see

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Speaker 2: if they actually want to play football in September. Sure, right,

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Speaker 2: And look we talked TJ. Watts. Thing will get settled

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, like keep seeing all the trade rumors and

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Speaker 2: whatever else. They usually do a lot of work during

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Speaker 2: training camp in terms of dotting eyes crossing T's So

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Speaker 2: I think they eventually get him in and get going

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Speaker 2: with Cincinnati. All bets are off, man, you might have

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Speaker 5: Do you like Chase Brown?

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Speaker 3: I do? I do.

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Speaker 2: It's just a question of as a draft board breaks,

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Speaker 2: where where's the sweet spot for him?

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Speaker 4: He's in a group right now that I feel is

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Speaker 4: so intriguing. So if in the half point Fantasy pros,

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Speaker 4: where I'm at right now, half point PPR. He's below

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Speaker 4: kyn Williams and above Briefs Hall, James Cook and Kenneth Walker.

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Speaker 4: And I am on board, especially with the bottom three.

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Speaker 4: Cook question about contract status in Buffalo. Kenneth Walker's just

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Speaker 4: injury prone. He watched it every year. Yes, you have

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Speaker 4: a couple of games, Yeah, brilliant and then he's gone.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 4: So I think they've got Chase Brown in the right spot.

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Speaker 4: But they have Bucky Irving ahead of Chase Brown, which

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Speaker 4: a little surprised. But I ken Argan's only two spots.

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Speaker 4: I like Hion Williams a lot. I think that there's

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Speaker 4: a drop off. I think that there is something less.

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Speaker 4: I expect Briestall to have a better season than he

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Speaker 4: Justin Fields takes away from what he does, and does

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Speaker 4: Braillen Allen have more of a role. That's the only

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Speaker 4: question I'd have about Brees Hall. But the couple of

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Speaker 4: running backs that are below Chase Brown, I have no

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Speaker 2: See Briestall's the type of guy that in the end

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Speaker 2: he will rank highly. But you're gonna lose your mind

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Speaker 2: week to week, sure, right, because you may have that

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Speaker 2: seventy three and a burst of pay dirt, but you

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Speaker 2: also might have an eighty yr day and Braylan Allen

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Speaker 2: takes those short yardage touchdowns her fields does it himself

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Speaker 2: or takes to the tight end or whatever happens there.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he may rank highly, but he also has

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Speaker 2: that big asterisk because you're gonna ride a roller coaster,

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Speaker 2: I think as the season goes on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the big load O Bun Bengels. You know, you

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Speaker 4: know Jamar Chase is going high.

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