1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Happy Monday everyone, and welcome inside with the Insiders Monday 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: podcast edition. Alongside Ian Rappaport, I'm Tom Pelacio. The Monday 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: shows always a little bit different if it is your 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: first time here. It is a podcast only show. Can 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: also see it on YouTube for the first time. Now 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: you can see it on the NFL Fast Channel as well, 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: layered eight thirty Pacific eleven thirty Eastern time every Monday. 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: Tons of different ways to get your. 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: Insiders, including of course Tuesday, Wednesday Friday seven pm Eastern 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: Time live on NFL Network. Two part podcast every Monday. 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: We really dig into everything we saw from the previous 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: Sunday and Ian this week. That means starting out with 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: a game last night that I don't think a lot 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: of people would have had as one of the games 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: of the week. I think that people have been girded 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: at this point to believe that it's the Bills and 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: everybody else in the AFC East. I personally was the 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: Patriots opener in Foxborough back in Week one, and it 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: was a really bumpy day. 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: They lost to a Raiders team. 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: That has not had a whole lot going for it 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: positively since then, but it was offensively it was challenged. 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: Drake May had a challenging day defensively. There were a 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: ton of moving parts. But Mike frabelman has that team 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: working and it was pretty impressive. It felt like the 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Mike Frable teams we saw in Tennessee, where they're going 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: to do things right other than fumbling the football, They're 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: going to be able to be really good situationally. And 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: obviously they had a wide receiver in Stefan Diggs who 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: looks better and better from a physical perspective, and that 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: game clearly meant a lot to him last night. 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna start with the Digs part first, 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: because you know, seeing that emotion from him. You watch 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: the pregame huddle, you know the speech he gave, You 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: watch the Mike rabel does the thing I'm sure you 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: guys have seen it where he stands outside the locker 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: room and sort of congratulates everyone after. 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: I think he only does it after win, but he 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: might do it after a loss. 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: Too, And watching you know him embraced Diggs and they 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: both sprint into the locker room to go kind of 42 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: give that. 43 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 4: You know, that really cool speechs and Digs gets a 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: game ball. 45 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it was. 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 4: You know, to be emotional is understandable. 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: I mean, Stefan Diggs has been through a lot plenty 48 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: at his own doing, for sure, but it's been through 49 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: you know, Thomas in Minnesota when Diggs was starting his 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: first go round to this whole thing. He's dealt with 51 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: a lot, and it's understandable to be emotional, to be 52 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: charged up, to be all the things. It is a 53 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: fully different thing to be able to handle it on 54 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: a field and deliver what I don't know, looks like 55 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: his best game in however many years. I mean, that 56 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: looks like a twenty five year old top five receiver 57 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: in the NFL, Stefan Diggs, and that looked like the 58 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: guy the Patriots have been waiting for, the guy the 59 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 3: Patriots paid for. 60 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: That was that was pretty cool. 61 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: The other part of this, I mean, you mentioned some 62 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 3: of the growing pains with the Patriots penalties, the fumbles, 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: Remandre with another Fumbo. Ugh, you know, they're still working 64 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: through those kinds of things. But this is such a 65 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: tough team. It really is. Like I sort of thought 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: this might be a game when I saw the Saints 67 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: play really hard and well against the Bills, and I 68 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: was like, all right, Saints aren't good, but they play 69 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: physically tough. Like that seemed to give the Bills some problems. 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: I wondered if the Patriots might sort of have some 71 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: of the same and they did. And with Drake May 72 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: making play after play and throw after throw with the 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: game on the line, I mean that second down throw 74 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: kind of down the sideline, the throw to Digs on 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: the run to his right, there's so many to like. 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: And like, if you're a Patriots fan, you've been. 77 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: Through a lot kind of what North Carolina's fans are going. 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: Through right now, which is a different story for a 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: different day. 80 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: This is kind of the other side of it, and like, 81 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: this looks like a Patriots team that is primed. 82 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: To be really, really good. 83 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: Drake May. 84 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: It was not unanimous, but he did have fans in 85 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: the pre draft process. The issue when coaches and scouts 86 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: were looking at him was of the six quarterbacks who 87 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: went up Hie in that draft, right between Kata Williams, 88 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: Jaden Drake, Michael Pennix, JJ McCarthy, bow Nicks, Drake May 89 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: was the one that had the furthest to go. He 90 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: had played the least amount of football. I believe he 91 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: was the youngest out of the entire group. I mean, 92 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: Katleb Williams had played a ton his entire career. Jade 93 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: Daniels was in college for quite a while. Obviously, Penis 94 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: had the injuries, but he had played a lot of football. 95 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: JJ was on the younger side but had played quite 96 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: a bit, and Bo Nicks had played at that time 97 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: more games anybody in college football history until Dylan Gabrids 98 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: dil and then broke that record. But with May, the 99 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: upside was there because the physical characteristics, because of the mindset, 100 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: you just didn't know how long is this going to 101 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: take it? 102 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: Again? I was there in week one. It did not 103 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: look like what we saw last time. 104 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean that though, he just saw right there watching 105 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: this like that was a wild type of play by 106 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: Drake May. But it's also so you know, there's times 107 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: where you got a team playing cover two, I think 108 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: this might be yeah, that's the throw right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 109 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: yeah too. They always, like coaches will say it. I'm 110 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, neither of us is like an ex's and 111 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: nose expert, but coach will always say the well, especially 112 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: when you're throwing to the field side, the wider side 113 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: of the field, like just take the flat route on 114 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: that because you're not going to be able to fit 115 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: that ball in. Drake big shoots that thing across before 116 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: the safety can get there. 117 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: He's got a big arm, He's a big dude. 118 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: He can move, he's tough, He's clearly one the respect 119 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: of his teammates here. 120 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Is that going to translate into a. 121 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: Patriots team making the playoffs after two consecutive what four 122 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: and thirteen seasons? 123 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to say they were each of the. 124 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Last I think for the first time, especially being the 125 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: team to Kell of the Bills, you at least have 126 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: to take into consideration this might be a playoff. 127 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: Makam. 128 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: I mean, this looks like the Commanders from last year. 129 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: And I know that Drake May is not a rookie 130 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: whereas Jaden was. But that's what it looks like. His 131 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: new coach, new energy, a free agency that sort of 132 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: toward like making the offensive and defensive lines a little 133 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: bit better, which is sort of what the Commanders had 134 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: last year. Signed a bunch of veterans to get that 135 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: to kind of fill in some of the depth issues. 136 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 4: It does feel like the Commanders from last year. 137 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: I want to go back quickly before we get to 138 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: the other really good game, which was Broncos Eagles. In 139 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: the draft pre draft process, like, you're right, like it 140 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 3: wasn't unanimous that Drake May was sort of the third 141 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: best quarterback. 142 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: I think some people, especially some of. 143 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 3: The more veteran people, I've always felt like maybe we're like, 144 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: all right, he's got a little too far to go. 145 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: But here's what I knew. Teams were trying to trade 146 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: for Drake May. And while the Patriots sort of said 147 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: they were open to it, they really weren't. Like the 148 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: Giants tried. They made a huge offer. I think it 149 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: was on the clock or maybe a couple picks before 150 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: I can't remember anywhere, and the Patriots and they said 151 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: they would consider everything, and I think they just never 152 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: considered anything. And that was the first time that night 153 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: when I was like, all right, like maybe this guy 154 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: really is this good, because that's the kind of treatment 155 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: you give to someone. 156 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: Who is going to be your franchise quarterback. 157 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: On the flip side of things, you had a team 158 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: yesterday in the Philadelphia Eagles that we've talked about a lot, 159 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: even though they got off to a four and oh start, 160 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: and you know when you're four and oh you can 161 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: sit there and say, hey, you know it's all being overblown. 162 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that was true. Then you 163 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: watch the very issues that people have been picking apart 164 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: all come back to bite them in a game that 165 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: they seem to have under control. I know Sean Payton 166 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: said he felt like they were in a great position throughout, 167 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: but you're down twenty one to seven on the road 168 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: to the defending Super Bowl champs. You have to on 169 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: some levels think like, hey, how are we going to 170 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: break through? The Broncos offense did break through in that game, 171 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: and whether it was just the way the Eagles played 172 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: offense with I think sa Quon Barkley had one carry 173 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: for zero yards in the entire second half of the 174 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: two touchdown lead, or it's just the continue inability to 175 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: establish a consistent passing game. What exactly is going on 176 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: right now? Ian to you with the Philly offense? 177 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: Well, the thing I'm trying to figure out and I 178 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: was listening to Kyle Brant sort of talk about this 179 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: very issue, which is basically sort of like what are 180 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: the Eagles right? Like he was like, well, they're a 181 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: running team, Okay, Well, Sekwon got like six carries either 182 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: five or six carries yesterday? 183 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: So are they a running team? Like, if they're a 184 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: running team, why don't they run the ball? 185 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 5: You know? 186 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: This is like in Moneyball where they're like, you know, 187 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: it's a Brad Pitt talking to these old scouts and 188 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: he's like, he's got a great swing, right, Well, if 189 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: he's got a great swing, why doesn't he hit good. 190 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: It's like, well, yeah, but he's got a great It's like, well, 191 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: how come he doesn't get an hit? So, like, if 192 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: the Eagles are a running team, why aren't they run 193 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: the ball? 194 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: And I just. 195 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: I would say this, first of all, I think they 196 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: are going to be fine. 197 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: I think they're going to be in the playoffs and 198 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: go deep in the playoffs, and they're going to be fine. 199 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: I think we all a little bit have to get 200 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: in understand the mindset that when it's early October, it's 201 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: where we used to be in early September. Because nobody 202 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: does anything in the preseason anymore. So the egos are 203 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: still trying to figure out what they are. And it's 204 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: October and they're four and one, and it's a little 205 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: bit of a mess, and they've gotten a ton of 206 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: local criticism, and they're going to be okay because last 207 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: year they figured it out toward November. This year they're 208 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: on track to figure it out sort of toward November. 209 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: It's just like, to get there, we all have to 210 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: deal with them being like kind of a little bit 211 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: of a you know, weird team for a while. Again, 212 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: I still think they're going to be fine, but watching 213 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: them figure it on a fly has been not always. 214 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: The most comfortable thing ever. 215 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: I think for the Broncos, that was a pretty cool win. 216 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: Like this you know Broncos team too, Like I don't 217 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 3: know what they are either, except they've made a ton 218 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: of big plays at the biggest moments and Bonnicks has 219 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: been really uneven, but when they got to have it, 220 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: he's had some really really nice plays too. 221 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: So kind of two teams figuring out it feels like. 222 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: And I would also also say we can't overlook Vanced 223 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: Joseph's defense, the way that they adjusted in the second half. 224 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: They have this habit of making things really challenging on 225 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: whoever they're facing offensively, The fact that you have an 226 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: Eagles team that's trying to figure this out right now, 227 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: and the way that Denver uses all those pass rushers. 228 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: They've obviously got one of the top corners in Patrick, 229 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: Sir Tan, They've got some other guys who are not 230 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: household names, But I mean, look at that. 231 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: You just knew Sir Tam. 232 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: Was going to lock it down yesterday, you know, And it. 233 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: Was impressive to watch at a time that the AFC 234 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: West know for everything that we were talking about with 235 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers in the early going, and how good can 236 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: that team be. They've stumbled in these past couple of 237 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: weeks amidst ongoing injury issues. Obviously, the Raiders are not 238 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: playing well at all. And the Chiefs, while we've seen 239 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: them take a little step forward, they've got reinforcements coming. 240 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: Is it possible here? I think we at least have 241 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: to consider whether or not it is the Broncos that 242 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: are the greatest threat to Kansas City and the AFC West. 243 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 4: We'll be right back with more on the inside. 244 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 5: Right, Let's welcome into our Steve Whites to the conversation. 245 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: Here. Steve start out in what might have been the 246 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: wildest in a afternoon of wild games yesterday, the shootouts 247 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: between the Bucks and the Seahawks. Two quarterbacks who let's remember, 248 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: were teammates in Carolina not that long ago, and with 249 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: those two options, the Panthers decided neither guys was the answer. Yesterday, 250 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: we saw two guys who both and this is not 251 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: talking in isolation. They've both been good the season, but 252 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: they're both playing it, you know, an MVP caliber type 253 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: of a level here. What did you learn out of 254 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: that game which the Bucks ultimately prevailed it? 255 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: Wow? 256 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 6: I mean, first off, those quarters, you know that both 257 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 6: of them were playing fearlessly right We saw them earlier 258 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 6: in their career. 259 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: They were afraid to make mistakes. 260 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 6: When you watched the game, Baker and Sam donald Man, 261 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 6: they were loading up and they were firing, they were 262 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 6: taking shots. 263 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: We're seeing Baker to the touchdown right here. But they just. 264 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 6: Compete at a level right now where they know their 265 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 6: teams are good around them, the players are good around them, 266 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 6: and the level of trust and the play call and 267 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 6: everything else in the. 268 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: Execution with both of them is like next level. 269 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 6: But what we're saying about the Buccaneers, and I've been 270 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 6: saying this since the preseason, is they you know, we 271 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 6: talk about teams with the culture, We never mentioned Tampa Bay. 272 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 6: Tampa Bay has a culture, right they expect to win. 273 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 6: They go in there like we're gonna beat you up. 274 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 6: You're gonna have to beat us. We're not gonna beat ourselves. 275 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 6: And that's what Seattle did with that Sam Donald unfortunate 276 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 6: touch interception. They beat themselves because otherwise they were going 277 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 6: to march down the field and score and probably end 278 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 6: it right there. And so I just think the fearlessness 279 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 6: that the Buccaneers are playing with and that level of 280 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 6: confidence is something we have to take seriously when we're 281 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 6: talking about a team that can possibly. 282 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: Come out of the NFC. 283 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's you talk about the Bucks culture, Steve. 284 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: They are so banged up they could barely practice this week. 285 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: Mike Evans isn't playing, Chris Gottowan's is coming back, starting 286 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: running backs not playing. 287 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 4: They got offensive linemen who are out. I mean, it's 288 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: the whole thing. 289 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: And like you know, we hear coaches say things like 290 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: you know, next man up, mentality and all that, and 291 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 3: that is all is all very nice, and then we 292 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, see a couple of teams really go out 293 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: and have a strong enough infrastructure where they can really 294 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: withstand all those injuries. We saw the forty nine ers 295 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: do it Thursday. We see the Bucks do it this Sunday. 296 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: Like they certainly made some mistakes, had a lot of 297 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: guys playing in there who were not starters, and we're 298 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: counted on for key roles. But because they are so 299 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: strong sort of like internally, they can they can deal 300 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: with it. Now, there's other teams. 301 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: Who dealt with a lot of injuries who went the 302 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: other way. We can talk about that in a second. 303 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: Baltimore would be one, But it really is unbelievable seeing 304 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: how the Bucks kind of can withstand all that and 305 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: keep going. And the other thing I would say is, 306 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: and obviously, you know, this was probably not a great 307 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: game if you were like a Panthers fan, Steve, but 308 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: I love the sort of redemption narrative of quarterbacks. And 309 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: every quarterback that gets benched can now look at. 310 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: A couple of different examples across the league. 311 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: And bag all right, like, if this guy can do it, 312 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: then maybe I can do it too. 313 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 6: And guys, let's look over over the fact that these 314 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 6: guys have two wide receivers who are emerging as likely 315 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 6: Pro bowlers. I mean Jack Smith and Jigba who we're 316 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 6: seeing right here. He was sick yesterday with some of 317 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 6: the plays he continued to make for Donald. Donald was 318 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 6: putting it on him. But I mean in Jigua was 319 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 6: getting open and making incredible plays. 320 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: And then I'm not going a BUCA. I mean, this 321 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: guy's right now the offensive. 322 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: Cronown still way better than Gronk. Good job, I saw that. 323 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 6: Man, I'm glad that the heat of Gronk up that 324 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 6: was that was That was not good. 325 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: It's not good. 326 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 6: But this dude, I mean, this is like his second 327 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 6: game where he's made these incredible. 328 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: Fourth quarter plays. He's a rookie. 329 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 6: He's getting open, but I mean he was covered on 330 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 6: a lot of these plays and he's making great catches. 331 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: So when you're seeing and that's when I say, you 332 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: have the trust. 333 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 6: Both of these teams, these quarterbacks have the trust in 334 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 6: their players, and that is a hard thing to do. 335 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: Again when you played the first part of your career, 336 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: like both. 337 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 6: These guys did, trying not to make mistakes. They weren't 338 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 6: playing to their talent level. Maybe they weren't playing to 339 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 6: their egos. Now they are and it's fun to see 340 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 6: Ian to talk about. You know what you just said, 341 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 6: These guys re emerging, not just in systems, but playing 342 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 6: up to their potential capabilities. That's always been there, so 343 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 6: I think that is really cool. But when you got 344 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 6: players like they're playing with that helps Somewhere. 345 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: There is an entire landfill of social media posts by 346 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: Bucks fans complain about why they didn't draft a corner 347 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: or alignment in the first round because of all their needs. 348 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: This is literally why you don't draft for need. 349 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: It's why gms like Jays and Light are in one 350 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: place for a decade plus. It's because you have a 351 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: philosophy for how you're going to build that roster. You 352 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: don't just collect players at the various positions like you get. 353 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: You build a team, and the way that they have 354 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: built the team there is constantly taking the best player available. 355 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: That was a mecca Abuka. Now, did they know that 356 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield ou Mekka Buka was going to be maybe 357 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: the best quarterback receiver combo in the league five weeks 358 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: in the season. 359 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: Probably not. 360 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: But the only knocks on Abuka coming out were like, 361 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: is he as explosive as the other wide receivers. Well, 362 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: he's not the biggest guy, but everybody said in terms 363 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: of just a pure receiver, like a football player, you 364 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: want a Meccha Buk. We've had him on the Insiders. 365 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's so mature. He's a super intelligent young guy, 366 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: very low key too, and I kind of gave him 367 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: crap about that last time we had him on. It 368 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: was just like, dude, how do you find it on 369 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: the field, because he flips that switch man and he 370 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: is a bad man on the football field. In the Bucks, 371 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, credit them for as beat up as they are. 372 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: Bakers beat up, No Bucky Irving yesterday. They got all 373 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: kinds of different moving parts on the offensive line. Chris 374 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: Godwin's not himself yet, Mike Evans probably gon be at 375 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: least another week, Jalen McMillan still, and all they do 376 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: is go in and hang thirty eight points on the 377 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: Slahawk's defense that'd been one of the best in the NFL. 378 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: It was really, really impressive, and I'd still say for 379 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: Seattle there's a lot of good Those are two of 380 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: the better teams in the NFC, and the Bucks and 381 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: and the other taste of that next week when they 382 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: continue their West Coast or NFC West Tour against the 383 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers' slip it over to the East coast though, Steve, 384 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: because you've got a Ravens team right now that is 385 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: also as beat up as anybody in the NFL. And 386 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: the inactive list when we were all texting about it yesterday, 387 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: like nobody's ever seen an active list where like everyone 388 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: on it's a Pro bowler and that's what they had, 389 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: including Lamar Jackson. But still there's some endemic issues here, 390 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: starting out with the run defense has been really really bad. Yes, 391 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: not having much the Pro Bowl players makes a big difference, 392 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: but you just watch them and you go you'd like 393 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: to think, if San Francisco can do it, if Tampa 394 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: can do it, if Minnesota can do it and put 395 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: a confident product on the field, how in the world 396 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: are the Ravens getting absolutely boat raced by a Texans 397 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: team that up until a couple of weeks ago didn't 398 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: like they can do anything. 399 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: Right tom even when they were healthy, this was happening. 400 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: That's the issue, right. 401 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 6: We can talk about the injuries, we can talk about 402 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 6: how poorly they played against the Texans, but this is 403 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 6: nothing new. 404 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: This has been systematic ever since Week one. 405 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 6: And when I watch them, I cover their game against 406 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 6: Detroit and I watch them. 407 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: To me it's basic stuff. 408 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 6: Tell me, when you see a defender getting off of 409 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 6: a block, it doesn't happen, right, They're getting locked up 410 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 6: and they're getting moved, and that's we're like, whoa, Okay, 411 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 6: I know Nomni Matabik is not there. Okay, he's a stud. 412 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 6: He he clears things up for guys. But you're just 413 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 6: saying good players getting blocked up, like it's a weird 414 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 6: thing in the defenders are there, they're not making plays 415 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 6: and so it's it's it's odd now when I watch 416 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 6: them schematically defensively, they ask a lot out of the 417 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 6: the especially the second level right, the out of their 418 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 6: inside linebacker pro quant Smith, who was right. But they 419 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 6: ask a lot of those guys, and they did it 420 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 6: early last year and they had to change some things. Okay, 421 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 6: remember when our Darius Washington came in and started safety, 422 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 6: they moved him a little up, move Kyle Hamilton back. Well, 423 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 6: they don't have our Darius Washington. Malachi Starks is playing 424 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 6: back there. But defensively, I don't know because I don't 425 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 6: know if it's scheme, because again I saw guys just 426 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 6: not getting. 427 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 4: I mean, last year they brought in Dnp's right. 428 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: And Dean's still consulting. 429 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 6: They say, he's still consulting from Afar, but maybe he's 430 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 6: he's taking a step back. 431 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: But if you go watch them, it's just simple stuff. 432 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 6: Man, They're they're just getting beat and it happened every week, 433 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 6: Like what is what has happened here? Just individually as 434 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 6: posician groups where you're getting whipped, simple stuff all game long. 435 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 436 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 6: You know, I thought the Lions just beat him upcause 437 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 6: the Lions are the Lions. But you're seeing that stuff 438 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 6: every week. 439 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it's Listen to Harball and he asked, 440 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: is asked, of course about essentially whether or not zach 441 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: Orr is the problem and whether or not they're going 442 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: to do more, make a change the defensive coordinator, and 443 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: he seems adamant that they are not. 444 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: Now they keep struggling. 445 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 3: You know, obviously we'll see, but you know that would 446 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 3: sort of speak to what you're saying that he believes 447 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 3: it's more physical than it is scheme related. And obviously, 448 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: you know you can, you know, a good coach and 449 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 3: scheme can help. But like if it's players who just 450 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: need to break free a box more like you know, 451 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: that'll be easier when better players come in. But I 452 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 3: just I don't know. I'm really fascinating to see where 453 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: this goes. I mean, John Harbaugh as a head coach 454 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: has done a lot of really, really really good things, 455 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: and I feel like maybe the best thing he does 456 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: is kind of manage the locker room, deal with the personalities, 457 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 3: and like keep everyone together. 458 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: That is going to be tested. 459 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: That is going to get really really interesting because like 460 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: we haven't seen a Ravens team start one and four 461 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 3: and I don't even know when, and you know, how 462 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: do they. 463 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: I mean, how do they respond? Is going to be 464 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 4: really really interesting. 465 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: And now you've got a game that suddenly feels huge 466 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Rams at home, the last game before 467 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: the buye. Yeah, you want to get to the buy 468 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: get Lamar back, get other guys healthy. But if you 469 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: lose this game, you're one in five. You are now 470 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: in a position where you need to come damn close 471 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: to running the table the rest of the way to 472 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: even have a shot at getting in the playoffs. We'd 473 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: all agree if the Ravens are healthy at the end, 474 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: they'll be one of the most dangerous teams in the NFL. 475 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: But ask the Bengals from last year. How it works 476 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: out when you put yourself in such a big hole 477 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: that even if if you do get healthy, even if 478 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: you are playing well down the stretch, you need everything 479 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: to follow the right way real quickly. And on Lamar 480 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: last game before the bye, thirty seconds or less. What 481 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: are the odds if any we see Lamar on the 482 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: field in your mind in week six. 483 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: Could be on the practice field. Doesn't feel great for 484 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 4: the game and field. 485 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: They are still good enough to win, and god it 486 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: feels like they have to, but I don't feel great 487 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 3: about him playing this week. 488 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: The Rams are sick. 489 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 6: The Rams have to losing that game, so the forty 490 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 6: nine are coming out there with bad intention. This is 491 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 6: gonna be a tough game for Baltimore, especially the way 492 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 6: they're playing defensively. 493 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Rams can easily be five and oh two. Absolutely just 494 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: painful losses for them. So far right, Steve, you're back 495 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: in part two of the podcasts. Later on in the show, 496 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: depending on how you're consuming this, we're all over the place, 497 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: different versions. We'll talk about the Bengals quarterback situation as 498 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: they continue to move forward. We got a lot more 499 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: to come. The Vikings getting a big win in London. 500 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: What's going on with the Jets at Z and five 501 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: is they head to London a whole lot more? Stick 502 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: around or go to part two of the podcast, however 503 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: you do it. 504 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: We're all over the place for Steve p and I'm 505 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: talking to see you that