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Speaker 3: Today is Wednesday, April nineteenth, twenty twenty three, as we
Speaker 3: are now eight days away from the NFL Draft in
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Speaker 3: SWBC studios today. Brian brought us, Bobby Belt, Zach Walchuk,
Speaker 3: Ayesha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans. Everybody ready, Bobby, great to
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Speaker 2: Who's the pick at twenty six?
Speaker 4: Go Michael mahyor Wow?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 2: Well, tight end talk.
Speaker 6: I think it's going to come down to two. I
Speaker 6: think the I think Mayor is clearly in play. I
Speaker 6: think right.
Speaker 5: Darneld Wright from Tennessee.
Speaker 6: I think is in and I think if b Jon
Speaker 6: Robinson gets to him, I think they would take him.
Speaker 4: I think Will McDonald needs to be part of that
Speaker 4: discussion too. Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's like eight names.
Speaker 4: I feel like it could be potential there, depending on
Speaker 4: what breaks ahead of them.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think the Will mcdonald' stuff in two, and I
Speaker 6: would throw in Drew Sanders as well. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 6: open the thing is at twenty six. But if you
Speaker 6: asked me to handicap him, I think the Mayor.
Speaker 2: Pick is one that I would I would really look.
Speaker 3: At Mayor over Kincaid or is it you expecting not
Speaker 3: to beat?
Speaker 4: I think Kinkaid's the first off the board.
Speaker 2: So for them.
Speaker 7: Based on what Stephen Jones told us in one oh
Speaker 7: five three the Fan yesterday, the way that he was
Speaker 7: describing these tight ends, it basically narrated down to it
Speaker 7: and maybe that this is also the smoke you know,
Speaker 7: you got trying, Hey what's the bee as, what's the fluff?
Speaker 2: What's real?
Speaker 7: But the way he described the tight ends, it's you
Speaker 7: gotta be able to block in line and then what
Speaker 7: else can you do? In terms of being a pass
Speaker 7: catcher that to me eliminates Musgrave. And I think Mayor
Speaker 7: and Washington are the two best complete when it comes
Speaker 7: to blocking and pass catching ability. So i'd look at
Speaker 7: those two. But you guys know, I have Kincaid one.
Speaker 7: I agree with Bobby though, the way we're getting closer
Speaker 7: to it, I think it's likely you could have Kinkaid
Speaker 7: and Mayor both off the board. And I think you're right, Brian,
Speaker 7: because I don't think Darnell Right's gonna make it. Drew
Speaker 7: Sanders might very well be in play here at twenty six.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you mentioned Darnell Washington. He also brought up
Speaker 8: a name like Martell's Bennett.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: The comparison, yeah, absolutely, And when you have Michael McCarthy here, yes, wait,
Speaker 8: you make me sick.
Speaker 7: Bob, that's a Super Bowl champ right, stop it, stop it.
Speaker 8: But no, like I was just saying, like, when you
Speaker 8: talk about tight end athleticism and all that stuff, he
Speaker 8: mentioned Martell has been it too, So I thought that
Speaker 8: was along the lines of the Darnell Washington think.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's been the comp I.
Speaker 3: Guess to him, do you think Darnell Right, do you
Speaker 3: think it hurts him or helps his case to be
Speaker 3: there at twenty six, the fact that he is not
Speaker 3: pigeonholed into the tackle spot because he does have that
Speaker 3: guard flex, that position flex that can either help your
Speaker 3: stock or it could hurt your stock. What does it
Speaker 3: do for Darnell Right?
Speaker 4: I think it helps him because I think it's one
Speaker 4: of those things where it's not viewed as like it's
Speaker 4: not the issue with Scaransky Right, where it's like you
Speaker 4: may have to have him play guard. I think with Right,
Speaker 4: it's we can also have him play guard, and so
Speaker 4: I think that the way they view it as they
Speaker 4: look at it as he has flexibility, not necessarily that
Speaker 4: he has to be kicked inside to have success or
Speaker 4: anything like that. I think that, you know, there's a
Speaker 4: belief throughout most of the NFL community that Right could
Speaker 4: play tackle. I would play him at guard, but I
Speaker 4: think most people probably feel like that guy can play tackle,
Speaker 4: and if he has any trouble there, then we can
Speaker 4: look at him at guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think he is a tackle, and I think he's
Speaker 7: the best right tackle in the draft. I think he's
Speaker 7: the third best tackle overall in the draft in my opinion.
Speaker 7: Right Paris Johnson and Broderick Jones from Georgia. But I
Speaker 7: do think he would be Scarnsky is a guard. I
Speaker 7: have Scron's guard.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think he's far and away the best guard in
Speaker 7: the class. And we can get into that later, like
Speaker 7: if there's a player you trade up for. To be honest,
Speaker 7: he's the only one that I think I would He
Speaker 7: can be that big of an impact I think for
Speaker 7: the Cowboys, especially when you look moving forward about Zach
Speaker 7: Martin getting older, I think that there's a lot of
Speaker 7: value there. But right to me, I would be hesitanting
Speaker 7: because I think I would want to play him at
Speaker 7: right tackle immediately. I think he might end up being
Speaker 7: the best right tackle on the team. And I love
Speaker 7: Terrence Steele, but I think he's a more well rounded player.
Speaker 7: But the ability to kick inside and play left guard
Speaker 7: is certainly something that will help him.
Speaker 6: Darnell Wright's a better player than what Tyler Smith was
Speaker 6: last year coming out of Tulsa.
Speaker 2: I'd agree with that.
Speaker 6: I mean and so and you see what they did
Speaker 6: with with Tyler Smith, and but they were able to
Speaker 6: make that work. Darnall Wright is a mean human being
Speaker 6: and it reminds me very much of Ron Leary playing guard.
Speaker 5: Here how mean Ron Leary was.
Speaker 6: And if you want to get back to if Mike
Speaker 6: McCarthy's talking about running the ball and being stout up
Speaker 6: front and all that, Darnell Wright makes a whole hell
Speaker 6: of a lot of sense.
Speaker 5: We've talked about the guards, you know.
Speaker 2: You know from Florida or TCU.
Speaker 6: But I think to me, if you this guy's the
Speaker 6: nineteenth best player on my board, Darnell right, and if
Speaker 6: you had if you let me pick him at twenty six,
Speaker 6: I'm handing that card in and I'm going on because
Speaker 6: I know I'm gonna plug him in and I'm let
Speaker 6: him play left guard. I'm going to keep Tyler Smith
Speaker 6: at left tackle, and I'm going to have a mean
Speaker 6: left side of that offensive line.
Speaker 2: Amen.
Speaker 7: And as we get closer to this, Aisha, He's kind
Speaker 7: of becoming my dream scenario there at twenty six.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and also too, when you talk
Speaker 8: about some of the names we've talked about from the
Speaker 8: guard position that are later maybe later in the round,
Speaker 8: guys like a Via, you say to yourself, well with
Speaker 8: Darnell Right, in my opinion, like if I think you
Speaker 8: have a better I don't feel like a lot of
Speaker 8: people feel like you're reaching if you take a via
Speaker 8: twenty six. I don't feel like if Darnell Wright is there,
Speaker 8: I'm okay. I'm okay with it because I understand what
Speaker 8: he can do in the run game, especially establishing like
Speaker 8: the physicality at the second level a man, it's important.
Speaker 7: It is, and his ability to me against elite competition.
Speaker 7: I felt like in the big games he played better.
Speaker 7: You look at the year that Tennessee had, They're not
Speaker 7: having that without Darnell right out there. And what he
Speaker 7: was able to do against Will Anderson b j o Jaalai.
Speaker 7: We've talked about this and those are two of the
Speaker 7: premium edge rushers, not only in this draft, but last
Speaker 7: year in the entire country in college football.
Speaker 2: Darnell right handled him. That's why I think he.
Speaker 7: Is a tackle, but the position flex for the Cowboys,
Speaker 7: being able to plug and play at left guard.
Speaker 2: My gosh.
Speaker 7: I think it'd be a great value pick, and I
Speaker 7: think he would immediately help them come day one at
Speaker 7: training camp.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that he would dominate mini camps. In camp.
Speaker 7: We're gonna be like, Wow, this is awesome, Tyler Smith.
Speaker 7: We're excited about You're right, Bryan, This kid's better.
Speaker 6: I think mel I think mel Kiper in his last
Speaker 6: mock draft, had right already gone.
Speaker 5: I think he had he had right going ahead of
Speaker 5: the Cowboys. So our friend sixteen sixteen Washington commanders.
Speaker 3: Arncle And and Dame Rugler had to go twenty one too.
Speaker 3: I think there were a couple of spots where he
Speaker 3: was gone. Now, on the flip side of things, we've
Speaker 3: talked about offensive players at twenty six.
Speaker 2: For nine months.
Speaker 3: I mean that's a little bit of an exaggeration, but
Speaker 3: forever we have talked about offensive players.
Speaker 2: What does it say if the Will.
Speaker 3: McDonald's of Iowa State and the Arkansas linebacker Drew Sanders
Speaker 3: are the pick, Brian, what does that say about your
Speaker 3: current state of your football team?
Speaker 2: The fact that.
Speaker 3: Offense has been the pigeonhole pick for so long, but
Speaker 3: now it's okay, let's go with the best player available.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6: It tells me a lot that Dan Quinn carries a
Speaker 6: big stick in that draft room because he went out
Speaker 6: there and you know he's worked these you know. The
Speaker 6: thing about with Sanders Sanders makes a lot of sense
Speaker 6: because I usual talks about this quite a bit too,
Speaker 6: with the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: If you look at like.
Speaker 6: The they're too deep on defense and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: Their linebacking corps has some questions to it. Yeah, And
Speaker 6: the one thing that you could do with Drew Sanders
Speaker 6: is we've seen his ability to rush, and we know
Speaker 6: that Dan Quinn likes to take linebackers and like make
Speaker 6: them have that ability to create.
Speaker 5: That opportunity to pass rush. Drew Sanders can do that.
Speaker 6: He can he he It's one of those guys that
Speaker 6: just doesn't come off the field.
Speaker 5: I don't think people are talking about him near enough.
Speaker 6: But I think to his ability and what he's capable
Speaker 6: of doing and how he plays would be a really
Speaker 6: good fit because Dan likes to use his guys in
Speaker 6: a lot of different ways.
Speaker 2: Drew Sanders fits that. Bill.
Speaker 7: The one thing about Drew Sanders, I think he needs
Speaker 7: to get stronger, you know.
Speaker 2: I feel like when linemen are able.
Speaker 7: To get to the second level they get on him clean,
Speaker 7: that's where he'll struggle to get off blocks. But Kyle
Speaker 7: and I we've been covering this kid since he was
Speaker 7: again Ryan being an absolute monster, so I've been able
Speaker 7: to follow his entire career.
Speaker 5: I love him.
Speaker 7: I mean, he's a thumper. When he hits you, he
Speaker 7: leaves remember me type of shots. The edge versatility is
Speaker 7: why I think a lot of people in today's day
Speaker 7: and age, especially when we've talked about this is a
Speaker 7: weak linebacker class fans would see or hear the pick
Speaker 7: of Drew Sanders and they'll think, oh my gosh, why
Speaker 7: are you taking off ball linebacker? He very easily could
Speaker 7: be the best, but the edge versatility that he brings
Speaker 7: you is something that we saw they were able to
Speaker 7: tap into with Michael Parsons. He shows that even more
Speaker 7: than Micah did coming out from Penn State, no doubt.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: My question for you guys though, is if you take
Speaker 8: a Drew Sanders in round one twenty six, what does
Speaker 8: that mean for Michael Parsons? Because when you start looking
Speaker 8: at Michael Parsons, I mean I've heard him numerous times
Speaker 8: talk about how many times him wanting to be more
Speaker 8: of a linebacker and be you know, have that ambiguity
Speaker 8: from where he was rushing from the DM position. We
Speaker 8: saw this past season he talked about getting his calluses
Speaker 8: and getting his mark.
Speaker 9: You know, playing that edge is not easy. So I
Speaker 9: wonder if they.
Speaker 8: Take you know, Drew Sanders first round. What does that
Speaker 8: mean for Michael Parsons? Is he going to be a
Speaker 8: d N more so or is he going to still
Speaker 8: have some of that linebacker flex or is that gonna
Speaker 8: be Is that gonna take him out of that position
Speaker 8: a little bit more?
Speaker 9: What do you guys think?
Speaker 4: I mean, the way Quinn I think calls defense, it
Speaker 4: would be a rotation of vander sh Parsons, Sanders, and
Speaker 4: they would all be disguised, so like it's different things
Speaker 4: where Parsons could rush or Sanders could rush, or you
Speaker 4: could have you know, Sanders looking like he's coming off
Speaker 4: the edge, Parsons is at linebacker, and it could be
Speaker 4: Parsons ends up rushing Sanders drops. There's different things. Sanders
Speaker 4: obviously is not. The comparison for me, pretty consistently on
Speaker 4: Sanders has been vander Rush. Actually that I mean, I
Speaker 4: think it's same size, same sort of athleticism you just
Speaker 4: get in coverage. Bill not as good in coverage, but
Speaker 4: he's better rushing the pass and wait. But it's the
Speaker 4: same question about getting off blocks in the facality. It's
Speaker 4: the same sort of issue. So I think they're similar players.
Speaker 4: I would to me, I think they view regardless of
Speaker 4: how they disguise it. They view Michael Parsons as a
Speaker 4: pass rusher, whether he's doing it from linebacker, he's doing
Speaker 4: it off the edge. Either way, they think he's a vgery.
Speaker 2: Sanders can run and chase though.
Speaker 7: Man, there was a play he tracked down Bryce Young
Speaker 7: when they were playing Alabama. I was like, Holy heck,
Speaker 7: this dude's got some fun closing speed. He would be
Speaker 7: a Swiss Army knife for Dan Quinn. I mean, I'd
Speaker 7: get excited about it. I got a second round grade
Speaker 7: on it. But when you're picking at twenty six, yeah,
Speaker 7: the likelihood of having a first round grade is not high.
Speaker 7: I don't think Drew Sanders should be a reach there
Speaker 7: at all.
Speaker 3: You didn't have a first round grade on I know, honestly,
Speaker 3: I have a first round grade bias, and I wanted.
Speaker 2: To put it. I just don't think there's a first
Speaker 2: round linebacker in this draft.
Speaker 3: He's the only one that's on my board. But I
Speaker 3: like him a lot in that regard. All right, we have,
Speaker 3: of course, one week until the draft. This is what
Speaker 3: Brian brought us as tabbed as lying season, Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's lying, Yeah you lie. We're not lying we're
Speaker 2: not even lying.
Speaker 4: How many media members did you lie to in your
Speaker 4: personnel days?
Speaker 5: You know I never did.
Speaker 4: Do you remember one where maybe I got somebody off
Speaker 4: the set?
Speaker 6: Soalth Palatonio from ESPN called me a liar when I
Speaker 6: was in Philadelphia twenty five you know, Sal Powell called
Speaker 6: me a liar.
Speaker 5: Twenty five years ago.
Speaker 6: I ran a draft in Philadelphia, and I got reminded
Speaker 6: of that when I was doing radio with you the
Speaker 6: other day because it's the anniversary of the Ryan Leaf.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir Manning, and that was the ninety eight draft.
Speaker 6: So twenty I remember doing a press conference before and
Speaker 6: talking about taking Trey Thomas. We really liked the tackle,
Speaker 6: and South Palatonio came up to me right afterwards just said,
Speaker 6: you're a liar, and I said, excuse me? Said he goes,
Speaker 6: you're a liar, And I said, what do you mean,
Speaker 6: I'm a liar? And he goes, you're lying about who
Speaker 6: you're going to take. I said, Sal, I'm not lying
Speaker 6: to you. You know, I had a chance to WP
Speaker 6: the radio station in Philadelphia that a guy named Gary Cobb.
Speaker 6: I think Gary does afternoons now with in Philly or
Speaker 6: does something. You know it does work still with WP.
Speaker 6: Cobb did an overnight radio show. I was sitting at
Speaker 6: the VET in Philly, the Old Stadium, and I was
Speaker 6: listening to his show.
Speaker 2: I was watching tape. It's probably three in the.
Speaker 6: Morning, just I couldn't just watching tape. And I heard
Speaker 6: it talking on the radio and he goes, He goes,
Speaker 6: I wonder who this Brian brought us is going to take.
Speaker 2: I called in.
Speaker 6: I told him we're going to take Trey Thomas. Is
Speaker 6: who we're going to take. He goes, no, man, you're
Speaker 6: lying to me. I said, no, I'm not lying to you.
Speaker 5: But that was before the era of Twitter and people
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 6: So if you were a truck driver or somebody a
Speaker 6: late night shift worker in Philadelphia, you heard who we
Speaker 6: were going to pick.
Speaker 2: Cause I told you. I told Gary Cobby put it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I told Gary Cobb, I said we're going to
Speaker 5: take Trey Thomas to tackle from Florida State. And he
Speaker 5: didn't believe me.
Speaker 6: And then time after I saw Gary Cobby's like, man,
Speaker 6: you you did it? You did And I said no,
Speaker 6: I just was you know, I didn't feel like I needed.
Speaker 5: To lie to you about that.
Speaker 7: Can you imagine if Bobby was in the front office.
Speaker 7: The amount of chum he'd be thrown in the water.
Speaker 2: Would be awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you would be king. Yeah, I might say that
Speaker 4: I was going to hire Condoleeza Rice as my head coach.
Speaker 9: Jail, Bobby Jail.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, the schefter got burned on that one.
Speaker 2: But that was a scheft dove climbing, that.
Speaker 4: Was a schefter report back of the day. Uh No, yeah,
Speaker 4: I you gotta you gotta stir it up a little bit, right,
Speaker 4: you got a sandbag a little uh and so I
Speaker 4: would imagine I'm stunned. You never once took advantage of it.
Speaker 2: Na, I didn't.
Speaker 4: He just rese psychology. You you made it sound so
Speaker 4: blunt that it had to be a lie.
Speaker 5: And really it's funny.
Speaker 6: We were smart, we were gosh, what was the kid's name,
Speaker 6: I can't remember. This was a draft and Larry Lacewell,
Speaker 6: it was a It was a kid that was from
Speaker 6: University of Texas. That was a safety. That was a
Speaker 6: Cornerten Jammer, Quentin Jammers. Gosh, good for young mind. That's good, good, good. Right,
Speaker 6: So we're sitting in the draft room.
Speaker 2: Real quick. Story time with Brian here today.
Speaker 6: Story Time but we're sitting in the draft room and
Speaker 6: myself and Larry Laswell and all the scouts are sitting
Speaker 6: around and we have the pick. It was Roy Williams
Speaker 6: draft is and we have the pick after we really
Speaker 6: like Quentin Jammer. Thanks for remembering the name. So we
Speaker 6: like Quintin Jammer, and uh, San Diego had the pick
Speaker 6: ahead of us, and the guy named John Butler was
Speaker 6: the GM and Laswell goes, I wonder what Butler's thinking
Speaker 6: about right now? So we're all looking at each other.
Speaker 6: He picks up the phone. He just hits a button
Speaker 6: and it goes to San Diego. He goes John, Larry
Speaker 6: layswell here in Dallas. He goes, who are you taking?
Speaker 6: He goes Larry, We're gonna take Quintin Jammer right ahead
Speaker 6: of you. And Larry goes, oh, okay, thanks, hangs up
Speaker 6: the phone, and we're all like Mandy, was he bluffing?
Speaker 2: Sure enough?
Speaker 6: He took Quinton Jammer right ahead of us. He just
Speaker 6: said we're taking Quin Jammer. And sometimes you could shock
Speaker 6: people that way. You just go ahead and say, yeah,
Speaker 6: we're gonna take whoever. You know, we're gonna take this guy.
Speaker 6: And you're really gonna take him, and people are going,
Speaker 6: there's no way. He just told us who taking.
Speaker 4: Wasn't that right after when Minnesota didn't turn their pick
Speaker 4: in on time and then everybody was running up like that.
Speaker 4: It was great.
Speaker 6: Well that No, that was the the Roy Williams draft
Speaker 6: was the one where we went down to two seconds
Speaker 6: on the clock.
Speaker 5: That's what Jerry had. Jerry had Kansas.
Speaker 6: City on one phone, in Minnesota on the other, and
Speaker 6: Carl Peterson. He got Carl Peterson in Kansas City, you
Speaker 6: woul admit who he was gonna take, which never happens.
Speaker 5: Did he got Frank gilliam from Minnesota to take who?
Speaker 2: He say?
Speaker 5: He goes, Jerry hangs up the phone because they're not
Speaker 5: taking our guys.
Speaker 2: Let's trade back which is the best pick?
Speaker 5: Kid?
Speaker 2: So we took it all.
Speaker 4: The way down, three teams to admit in ten minutes
Speaker 4: who they were going.
Speaker 6: Jerry got Carl Peterson to admit and got and got.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: That the Quinton Jammer was before the draft, but that
Speaker 6: was the draft that quit that. Chris Hall we Chris
Speaker 6: Hall walks in the room of the draft room. He goes,
Speaker 6: did anybody call the NFL office to turn the trade
Speaker 6: in to send the PICKA send the trade in. Oh no,
Speaker 6: and it's Stevid Jones just immediately dives on the table.
Speaker 2: He hits the button. He goes it's Joel, Joel Bustard
Speaker 2: and he goes, Joel, we got a trade.
Speaker 5: We got a trade with Kansas City.
Speaker 11: And you can see the clock go five four, and
Speaker 11: then Robert Blackwell is in in New York, just kind
Speaker 11: of like going.
Speaker 5: He's like, and I hand in the car.
Speaker 2: He's like, I got no car, Almo. That was the
Speaker 2: same pass passed that they passed.
Speaker 11: So you pass, and then everybody can run their pick, yes,
Speaker 11: and it'll skip you.
Speaker 2: They can all skip me. You can pick at any.
Speaker 4: Moment, which is what happened right after that. You guys
Speaker 4: traded with Kansas City right right we trained. They got
Speaker 4: they took Ryan Simms, Ryan Simms, and then and then
Speaker 4: Minnesota didn't get their pick on on time. And then
Speaker 4: it's like two three people.
Speaker 2: Kevin Williams in that draft.
Speaker 5: It was it was crazy, but.
Speaker 4: Basically it's two thousand and two.
Speaker 2: I was, wait, you should YouTube that. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: It's incredible.
Speaker 6: We watched we were sitting there all like watching the
Speaker 6: car and then Chris Hall, God bless him, goes, did
Speaker 6: anybody turn the trade in?
Speaker 2: It's Stephen just spun and the table.
Speaker 11: Joe, we got a trade that the league called back,
Speaker 11: league called back and go Steven hit the button and goes, yeah,
Speaker 11: he goes, He goes Dallas and Buster comes and goes, Steven,
Speaker 11: don't you ever do that again?
Speaker 2: Steven's yeah, thanks, Joey, We're good man, We're good. Thanks,
Speaker 2: appreciate you all.
Speaker 11: But we were literally like the clock, I mean it's
Speaker 11: five four and that we don't have a card.
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's thinking we hadn't you know what's going
Speaker 2: on here? And it was mass chaos the draft.
Speaker 3: All of this to be said, it is lying season, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean lying season all the way through.
Speaker 2: So we have a little bit of factor fib around
Speaker 2: this draft. Okay, little factor fib. I'm gonna give you some.
Speaker 2: And Zach w took the sprinkle story. I loved it.
Speaker 3: We can we can push this to the third segment too,
Speaker 3: and we can get it extra in there too. But
Speaker 3: I've got these statements. I want you to tell me
Speaker 3: if this is a factor, If this is a fib.
Speaker 3: These are based off of recent reports around the NFL
Speaker 3: Draft and what could happen come next week. And I
Speaker 3: shall start with you on this one. Only two wide
Speaker 3: receivers will go in the first round of next week's draft.
Speaker 3: Is that a factor? Is at a fib two wide receivers.
Speaker 9: I think it's a.
Speaker 8: I feel like these tackles are going to go off
Speaker 8: the board fast FIB.
Speaker 3: I think morego, morego. I think if you had to
Speaker 3: put a number on it, how many you think it
Speaker 3: would go?
Speaker 8: I would say at least at least three, three to
Speaker 8: four at the very least.
Speaker 2: That sounds about right right. Jordan Addison, No, I.
Speaker 3: Think Jackson Smith and Jake Bow Flowers, Flowers, those would
Speaker 3: be Yeah about.
Speaker 4: John Flowers got invited to the combine means the NFL
Speaker 4: things he's going to.
Speaker 8: Flowers is one of those guys that people like I said,
Speaker 8: I think he's undenied. I think it's kind of hard
Speaker 8: to deny what you see on tape.
Speaker 2: It maybe hit that list I did.
Speaker 6: I was on the giants dot com the other day
Speaker 6: and all they were talking about was Jay Flowers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're looking at wide receivers.
Speaker 2: They're asking me about wide receivers.
Speaker 5: That's about corner.
Speaker 4: Have they not drafted enough joy sticky receivers the.
Speaker 9: Giants and they just let them go.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you that's right. That's it. They have a
Speaker 5: They have a team full of slot receivers, is what
Speaker 5: they do.
Speaker 2: But then Shepherd, but.
Speaker 6: They were talking about they were talking about Flowers. But
Speaker 6: I think it's interesting. I think your number threes. I
Speaker 6: think your number three is interesting.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 6: But you know, there's people some people say that it's
Speaker 6: just one I missed something I was like talking about, Yeah,
Speaker 6: just you know, But could you know Smith and Jigba.
Speaker 2: I wonder.
Speaker 5: I wonder how because I think if you ask teams around.
Speaker 6: The league, I don't think anybody has the same three
Speaker 6: wide receivers on the top of them.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think you give me your top ten receivers, and
Speaker 6: I guarantee you that it's not like the past where
Speaker 6: it was Chase Jefferson Lamb. No, uh, it's Addison, Smith
Speaker 6: and jig but Johnston. It's Smith and Jigba, Johnston, Addison.
Speaker 5: Flowers, it's Flowers.
Speaker 2: It's Flowers, Smith and Jigba. You know, yeah, some might
Speaker 2: have Josh downs in the mix.
Speaker 9: Some people think that Jalen High. Yeah, it's difficult to
Speaker 9: put your finger on.
Speaker 4: He told us he thinks some teams might have Tillman higher.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the then Cedric Tillman out of Tennessee is getting
Speaker 7: the most buzz right now of all the receivers. That
Speaker 7: one guy, the one who's falling also with side though,
Speaker 7: is Quentin Johnston.
Speaker 12: I blame you, Brian for what I blame I blame
Speaker 12: everybody because people want I mean, we're used to seeing
Speaker 12: some of these bigger receivers in the mix, and I
Speaker 12: think that they have to be in the like people
Speaker 12: are making them be.
Speaker 2: In the conversation.
Speaker 6: I was, I was, I was wrong about Joey Bosa now,
Speaker 6: but don't put this one.
Speaker 2: Joey bo I compared I compared him with Greg Ellison.
Speaker 2: Greg Ellis is a damn good player.
Speaker 6: I mean Joey bos Is like, I'm like, he could
Speaker 6: have the same sack numbers.
Speaker 5: Noah, Spence, you did like Spen Bobby.
Speaker 2: Hey, I've been doing this for twenty five years. I've
Speaker 2: been doing this for twenty.
Speaker 4: I've heard, I've heard you have the football the point
Speaker 4: to make.
Speaker 5: Where's my ring?
Speaker 2: Where's my ring? Where's where's it at? Uh, Zach, the
Speaker 2: Texans will trade over there. What do you do? Texans
Speaker 2: will trade out of the number two PIC next weekend.
Speaker 7: I think that's a fact. Oh wow, I think the
Speaker 7: Texans are moving out of that thing. I don't think
Speaker 7: it'll be the Cardinals, and the Cardinals are gonna get
Speaker 7: bleeped in this area. I think the Texans do not
Speaker 7: want to take a quarterback. I'm buying into some of
Speaker 7: this Tyree Wilson hype right now. I've been trying to
Speaker 7: talk to some of these Houston folks that I know.
Speaker 7: They don't they're not really true because Demiko Ryans is
Speaker 7: one of these.
Speaker 2: Guys that's lying. He's trying to pull everybody off sides.
Speaker 7: But I really do think their connection called the Liar,
Speaker 7: the guy that did go on and Brian, you've talked
Speaker 7: to me about this, Lance Zerline, Yeah, Lance Zuline. It
Speaker 7: was like a week or two ago. Mark's Tyree Wilson
Speaker 7: to the Texans. I started asking around some people that
Speaker 7: I know in Houston. They do like Tyree Wilson out
Speaker 7: of Texas Tech a lot. I think they're looking to
Speaker 7: bail and I think that they want to try and
Speaker 7: move back get some more picks because they're not in
Speaker 7: love with the quarterbacks. I think it's fact right now,
Speaker 7: if I have to bet, I think the Texans moved
Speaker 7: back from two.
Speaker 9: Host that quarterback right now, Davis Dennis Mills.
Speaker 3: Bye, That's the only question that I have is yeah,
Speaker 3: Davis Mills.
Speaker 2: But if you're not going to take Stroud or Young
Speaker 2: at one or.
Speaker 3: Two, there's a good shot you find a Levis or
Speaker 3: a Richardson or a Hooker, depending on how far you
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 13: They got another pick at twelve, they pick at twelve,
Speaker 13: they could probably have their pick of those three guys,
Speaker 13: maybe not one of the three, and it could just
Speaker 13: be you go from two to four with Indy, you know,
Speaker 13: or it's Tennessee.
Speaker 7: Tennessee's the sleeper in this that wants to move up
Speaker 7: from eleven for a quarterback, and they could stack up
Speaker 7: have back to back picks at eleven and twelve.
Speaker 2: M What do you think, Brian, you think they'd do
Speaker 2: something like that?
Speaker 5: I think I think he's onto something. I really do.
Speaker 6: Like Lancer lying down there in Houston. I think he
Speaker 6: is plugged into what's going on with the Texans. He
Speaker 6: has some crazy mock drafts and you know, but that's
Speaker 6: what the NFL is. It ain't all about chalk, It's
Speaker 6: about sometimes.
Speaker 5: You get to be creative.
Speaker 6: There's people already whispering about that that all these mocks
Speaker 6: that people have been doing are just gonna be ridiculously
Speaker 6: looked bad, probably because they're the teams are like, no,
Speaker 6: we don't see it this way. So if Zerline is
Speaker 6: telling me that they're not going to take it, I
Speaker 6: think that ownership And I don't know if ownership is
Speaker 6: strong enough to stand in there and say we got
Speaker 6: to draft a quarterback or do they really trust Nick
Speaker 6: to Sario and that crew there to make that happen.
Speaker 2: If you don't love one of those quarterbacks, why force
Speaker 2: that pick? Right?
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's I guess.
Speaker 3: And also not to mention you look at what could
Speaker 3: happen behind you too, because somebody could trade into three,
Speaker 3: somebody could do all these other things.
Speaker 6: And then I'll tell you this though, if I would
Speaker 6: have a hard time if I was Houston, because I
Speaker 6: know in my stack that I got Bryce Young is
Speaker 6: my second best player, I would have a hard time
Speaker 6: that if that, if that, if the Carolina Panthers didn't
Speaker 6: take Bryce Young, I would have a hard time passing
Speaker 6: on on Bright.
Speaker 2: That could be if I was, that could change this name.
Speaker 6: Because if if if Carolina makes some crazy pick that
Speaker 6: we really did they Okay, they've talked about Richardson, they've
Speaker 6: talked about others, you know, maybe Strout.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: But if they if they make some kind of pick
Speaker 6: where Bryce Youngsville, I ain't moving out of it.
Speaker 2: I'll take Bryce Young and here we go. Yeah, right
Speaker 2: with it from there. Do you think that Carolina takes
Speaker 2: Bryce Young or CJ. Strout? It's kind of seeming like
Speaker 2: it's funneling down to think I.
Speaker 4: Think Bryce Young right now at number one are minus
Speaker 4: twelve thousand in Vegas.
Speaker 6: You could have got it for plus two fifty and
Speaker 6: two weeks ago.
Speaker 7: All the rest of his pre draft visits to me,
Speaker 7: I don't think you do that unless Carolina has told
Speaker 7: you were taking or.
Speaker 6: Taking either that or you're trying to say that you know,
Speaker 6: you wonder you you know, in the top three or
Speaker 6: four need to take me because I ain't. You know,
Speaker 6: if you don't, if you want me to work out
Speaker 6: and all that, fine, but you know I'm done.
Speaker 5: I'm done with all that.
Speaker 6: I think maybe it's kind of like with Carter, you know, saying, listen,
Speaker 6: if you're not not a top ten team, I'm kind
Speaker 6: of interested in coming to visit you.
Speaker 4: More reasonable for Bryce Young to hold that position than
Speaker 4: Jayalen Carter.
Speaker 2: Sure, because that's going to be our next factor.
Speaker 3: Phil, Hey, how about this for a transition, Jayleen Carr
Speaker 3: or will not fall out of the top ten picks
Speaker 3: factor fib Bobby bill Uh.
Speaker 4: Won't fall out, won't fall out. Fact, he's not going
Speaker 4: to fall out.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So now I wouldn't feel like I wouldn't feel comfortable
Speaker 4: staking a top ten pick on what it's clearly been
Speaker 4: a shoddy reputation with his work ethic and his off
Speaker 4: the field, you know, maturity and everything else. And so
Speaker 4: I wouldn't feel great about doing that. The Cowboys were
Speaker 4: in the top ten of the draft this year, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't feel good about any connection of Jayalen Carter to
Speaker 4: the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: I'm opposite of that, Bobby, because I feel like if
Speaker 6: I was in the top ten, I would have my
Speaker 6: FBI guys, my security guys, I'd had everybody there in Athens,
Speaker 6: Georgia trying to figure this kid out. The Film's too good.
Speaker 4: To be fair, though not just here in Dallas. Plenty
Speaker 4: of other places have sent their investigators. Felt good about
Speaker 4: a pick of a player, like putting it has gone.
Speaker 6: South, I'll go, I'll gamble, and that that's what the
Speaker 6: that's what the draft's all about, though, I mean, it is.
Speaker 5: Too good to Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 6: You don't want to sit there and pass on somebody that,
Speaker 6: like you say, if it's a bust. If he's a
Speaker 6: bust as a player, then you know what that's on.
Speaker 5: I deserve to get fired.
Speaker 6: If he's a bus because I didn't do my due
Speaker 6: diligence by sending my FBI guys in or my security
Speaker 6: team and learning about him or following him around or
Speaker 6: digging up information about him, then.
Speaker 5: Shame on me too. But I'm taking that shot.
Speaker 7: And he's like a position that he plays, you know,
Speaker 7: much like we've talked about tight end. There's so few
Speaker 7: game records at that position. I'm not passing on him.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna gamble, and if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to the top ten.
Speaker 8: I think, I think yeah, And if he didn't, I
Speaker 8: feel like, personally, I feel like I would immediately know
Speaker 8: something else, you know, what's going on. But to your point,
Speaker 8: I do think that the DT position specifically, just like
Speaker 8: the nose, is starting to become a not a knee,
Speaker 8: but something that people are looking for.
Speaker 9: And it's not that easy to find.
Speaker 8: It's not that easy to find sure guys that can
Speaker 8: stop the run and rush to do both. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 8: it's it feels like almost either or at that position
Speaker 8: right now. So he brings a value that I think,
Speaker 8: like you guys said, people gonna look over it.
Speaker 9: People are gonna look over it and do what they
Speaker 9: need to do.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I do think you have to do
Speaker 5: your work.
Speaker 2: I mean I do.
Speaker 6: I mean to me, if seriously, if I was in
Speaker 6: that top ten, and even though if I didn't feel
Speaker 6: like I owe it to myself to find out about
Speaker 6: this kid, I owe it to myself.
Speaker 4: Who's a player that you at any point had to
Speaker 4: like send research people and that you went, oh, yep,
Speaker 4: we're out on this one.
Speaker 5: Randy Moss, Wow, Barnacles.
Speaker 2: That's a big one.
Speaker 6: And that was Jeff Lurry's decision in Philadelphia. That was
Speaker 6: again twenty five years ago in a draft. I remember
Speaker 6: sending our FBI guy, you know, we went to Morgantown.
Speaker 6: Actually me to Huntington and then and did all that,
Speaker 6: went to West Virginia, did all that stuff, did everything
Speaker 6: about learned everything we could about him. And another one
Speaker 6: too was Ryan Leaf. You know, that was another one
Speaker 6: where we got a lot of information work out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5: The thing with Randy Moss, and I.
Speaker 6: Remember the conversation I had with Jeff Lerry, the owner
Speaker 6: of the Eagles, was he goes, Brian, I just don't
Speaker 6: feel comfortable taking Randy Moss. And I said, fine, I go,
Speaker 6: I just want you to know that he is our
Speaker 6: number one wider receiver on the board. He goes, that's fine,
Speaker 6: We're good, We'll be We'll be fine. And I said, yes, sir,
Speaker 6: we'll be fine. And so we went into that draft
Speaker 6: and Randy Moss was not on our board. And when
Speaker 6: he went and we saw him keep going down, down, down, down,
Speaker 6: he got passed by Cincinnati twice, and you're like, going,
Speaker 6: were we right? And then he ends up in Minnesota
Speaker 6: and Randy Moss was nothing but a great player. But
Speaker 6: there were a lot of things about Randy Moss's past
Speaker 6: that some people in the league just did not feel
Speaker 6: comfortable with.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting to really hear about in the past
Speaker 3: because you never know what's going to happen next week,
Speaker 3: because those same types of conversations are happening right now.
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Speaker 3: for Chris Beam in the back. All right, Answering your questions,
Speaker 3: starting off with Steve and he says, how much does
Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson and Peyton Hindershot impact your decision to draft
Speaker 3: a tight end on day one or day two?
Speaker 2: Does it move the needle at all? Bobby No, not
Speaker 2: a bit twice.
Speaker 4: I mean they're good players, you like them, But I mean, look,
Speaker 4: I think you have clearly heard the way that Jerry
Speaker 4: and the fact that the offensive coaching staff was basically
Speaker 4: back in Dallas for the combine running install except for
Speaker 4: Londa Wells, who was there in Indianapolis working out the
Speaker 4: tight ends. I think they've shown that they believe they
Speaker 4: can get better there with this class, and so because
Speaker 4: of their ability to get better, they or the opportunity
Speaker 4: to get better there, they're not just going to pass
Speaker 4: on that in the name of, well, we like these guys,
Speaker 4: they can like them, and still I think approach it
Speaker 4: for position up. This is still an area where we
Speaker 4: feel like we could definitely get better in the first
Speaker 4: three rounds.
Speaker 7: The only thing that made me pause was what Steven
Speaker 7: said yesterday. I wonder if they just think, hey, we
Speaker 7: got two guys that are good pass catchers and Hendershot
Speaker 7: who can stretch the field. We saw what fergu was
Speaker 7: able to do, being able to leap the eyes in
Speaker 7: the open field last year. You know, that's why they're
Speaker 7: putting more of an emphasis on getting a tight end
Speaker 7: that's well rounded that can also inline block, because I
Speaker 7: think Ferdie can. That's certainly a weakness in hender shots game.
Speaker 7: We saw that specifically in the Titans game last year.
Speaker 3: And I saw this pop up on Twitter the other
Speaker 3: day though, But the numbers over the last eleven games
Speaker 3: for Peyton Hindershot weren't phenomenal.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like he was setting the world on fire.
Speaker 3: He had like four catches and I think eleven yards
Speaker 3: or something like that, and then one of them was
Speaker 3: off of his hands and it was an interception that
Speaker 3: was caused.
Speaker 2: So it's not like he was completely trending in the
Speaker 2: right direction.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Peyton Hendershot's a bad player by any
Speaker 3: stretch of the imagination. I still think he's shown what
Speaker 3: he can do stretching the field. But if it's gonna
Speaker 3: deter you from drafting one of these special tight ends,
Speaker 3: I don't think that's necessarily the right thought.
Speaker 9: No, I don't think it has anything to do with them.
Speaker 8: I feel like the Cowboys have shown that they're gonna
Speaker 8: draft tight end and they're gonna develop tight end at
Speaker 8: a regular you know clip, you know, just to have
Speaker 8: guys in there and to continue to develop guys. And
Speaker 8: with this class being so I mean, we talked about
Speaker 8: the depth. I mean, I got to Leonard Taylor from
Speaker 8: Cincinnati yesterday and I was just like, God, dang, like
Speaker 8: it is it?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 9: Are it?
Speaker 15: Really?
Speaker 9: There really are a.
Speaker 8: Lot of tight ends in this draft that I feel
Speaker 8: like they don't they want to go early, like you said, Bobby,
Speaker 8: like there might be a guy that is like their
Speaker 8: guy early, but if they don't get that guy, I
Speaker 8: think they can find tight ends almost in every round
Speaker 8: for real.
Speaker 2: No, you're You're not wrong.
Speaker 7: I kind of feel like if Dalton Kincaid's my tight
Speaker 7: end one, I'm kind of down to Wight. Like I
Speaker 7: think Josh Wiley out of Cincinnati. I love Will Mallory's
Speaker 7: a guy from Miami that played with horrible quarterbacks, catches
Speaker 7: everything that was thrown his way. He could maybe end
Speaker 7: up being, you know, the Jory Kittle of this class,
Speaker 7: where he didn't you know, he didn't dominate in college,
Speaker 7: but he's got upside tremendously. There's a ton of athletic
Speaker 7: tight ends.
Speaker 2: It's deep. Paying Durham for Purdue.
Speaker 7: We're gonna go on and on about guys who could
Speaker 7: come in and be super successful. You don't have to
Speaker 7: take a tight end round one, but if they grade
Speaker 7: one that highly, this is a special, unique class.
Speaker 6: I kind of feel like though that if you want
Speaker 6: to take the guy that has the chance to be
Speaker 6: that elite tied in the past catcher, the down the
Speaker 6: field guy, because my boards kind of split that way
Speaker 6: when you we we've.
Speaker 5: Talked about all the guys at the top.
Speaker 6: But when you get down to the when you get
Speaker 6: down into that middle round, I'm Strange from uh, Penn
Speaker 6: State is a guy?
Speaker 2: Let me let me get to my my guys here. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, there were there were these
Speaker 6: guys that there were these guys that was Strange from
Speaker 6: Penn State, Wiley from Cincinnati, Lots from Alabama, Allen from Clemson.
Speaker 6: I have all these guys kind of in that fourth
Speaker 6: round there. You know we mentioned Kuntz would be a guy.
Speaker 6: Durham is the guy you mentioned there. If there's there
Speaker 6: is a divide between the two, yes there is. And
Speaker 6: and you know with the other guys, I think you're
Speaker 6: getting more of a kind of a when the Strange
Speaker 6: and the Wileys and the law two's and the Allen's
Speaker 6: kind of a they're good at blocking, they're good at catching,
Speaker 6: but they're not that next level type of a tight
Speaker 6: end that you would say, oh, this is a down
Speaker 6: the field weapon type of a guy.
Speaker 8: So are you looking for a guy to come in
Speaker 8: With that being said, are you looking for a guy
Speaker 8: to come in and immediately be.
Speaker 9: Difference maker? A tight end?
Speaker 6: You are?
Speaker 8: You don't think they're either one of those gentlemen that
Speaker 8: are on the team can be tight end one right now?
Speaker 4: Probably I think they. I think they can double up
Speaker 4: as a passable tight end coupling like I mean, and
Speaker 4: they can certainly grow into that, But they're like difference makers.
Speaker 6: Like you said, well it's split okay, Yeah to me,
Speaker 6: this is where this is where I kind of draw
Speaker 6: the line.
Speaker 5: If you're telling me, if you're telling me on these tight.
Speaker 6: Ends that I'm gonna draft Mayor Kincaid, Musgrave or Washington,
Speaker 6: plug and play, okay, Craft Laporta, uh shoemaker from Michigan.
Speaker 5: These are guys.
Speaker 6: Strange Wiley, the guys they just mentioned, those are the
Speaker 6: guys that probably are going to fit in and be
Speaker 6: rotational guys. But those four guys that I mentioned ahead, those.
Speaker 2: Are plug and play.
Speaker 6: But but Laporta, shoemaker, shoemaker from Michigan, Strange Wiley, Boom,
Speaker 6: those guys fit into Maybe you got Hindershot and Ferguson
Speaker 6: played before those guys. These other guys are gonna have
Speaker 6: to be I think rotational players.
Speaker 4: Schoonmaker and with the the guys who I think you.
Speaker 5: I like Schoonmaker. I like Schoonmaker. If I'm not taking
Speaker 5: they run the ball behind him. They do.
Speaker 2: Maker's good. Yeah. Same thing with Allen from Plempston.
Speaker 7: Like. Allen seems like to me, he's a Dulton Schultz
Speaker 7: type of clone. I think he gives you a lot
Speaker 7: of similar things. I'm going with Josh Wiley if I
Speaker 7: don't take one of these Cincinnati, Yeah it's from Cincinnati.
Speaker 7: I think this dude has a chance to be a
Speaker 7: big time player, can play on the outside of the slot.
Speaker 7: Tough catches the ball, high, low, big catch radius. At
Speaker 7: six foot seven, that dudees to me that I've kind
Speaker 7: of circled, could end up being the absolute gem among
Speaker 7: these tight ends.
Speaker 3: Just the stats specifically to give some context here, Peyton
Speaker 3: Hendershadow to the last ten regular season games, six targets,
Speaker 3: four receptions, thirty.
Speaker 2: Three yards and one touchdown. That's it. Four receptions thirty
Speaker 2: three yards. There are six targets.
Speaker 3: And then Jake Ferguson wasn't much better twelve receptions. He
Speaker 3: did catch all twelve targets for one fourteen in a
Speaker 3: touchdown those two final ten regular season games.
Speaker 6: Those two dudes are not keeping me from drafting a
Speaker 6: tight end though. No, I'm sorry, I've just.
Speaker 4: I'm also not trying to run him out of town. No, no,
Speaker 4: I want him on the stand. But yeah, I think
Speaker 4: you can absolutely upgrade that spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So here's a couple questions talking about trading up.
Speaker 3: We kind of mentioned this in passing last week. Uh,
Speaker 3: but this one specific. I don't know how to say
Speaker 3: in and am sorry, but he says if either b
Speaker 3: Jean Robinson Elijah Cansi from Pitt or Darnell Wright from
Speaker 3: Tennessee are still available around pick number twenty, is Dallas
Speaker 3: sticking at pick twenty six or would they pull the
Speaker 3: trigger and go up and get one of those guys.
Speaker 6: I don't think they would trade for Robinson. I don't
Speaker 6: see them moving up.
Speaker 5: I just don't.
Speaker 6: And to me, the guy that makes I don't think
Speaker 6: they'd move up for Kancy. I think that we're thinking.
Speaker 4: I would not.
Speaker 5: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're.
Speaker 6: In that mode right now where they're gonna trade up
Speaker 6: for a three technique. I mean, I think if he's
Speaker 6: there at if he's there at twenty six, you would
Speaker 6: surely consider him. But I'm not moving up the guy
Speaker 6: that I would trade up for if he was that close,
Speaker 6: if I knew that I was going to lose him
Speaker 6: between twenty and twenty six, I would trade up for
Speaker 6: right because I feel like that I'm getting a first
Speaker 6: round tackle that I could play at guard, and he's close,
Speaker 6: you know, b Jeon Robinson, I'm gonna gamble. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: gamble that. You know that he you know, if he
Speaker 6: doesn't get to me, fine, I'll move on. I'll find
Speaker 6: a way to get you know, his teammate in the
Speaker 6: third round or something like that. I'm not I love
Speaker 6: Bjeon Robinson, Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 5: I just think the one guy that I think that
Speaker 5: that that.
Speaker 6: Tackle guard combination could really really help the running back
Speaker 6: could help you too. But I'm just if I had
Speaker 6: to move up, I think I would.
Speaker 5: Try and secure Right. Hey, gamble on the other.
Speaker 2: Two, ye I'm with you.
Speaker 7: I don't think and it's no, I'm not trying to
Speaker 7: rip on cancy good player. I don't think there's been
Speaker 7: a more over hyped player in this entire draft. Wow,
Speaker 7: from going to top ten, he kills the combine. You
Speaker 7: watch the tape, it just it just doesn't wow you like,
Speaker 7: oh my gosh, we're gonna move up and go get
Speaker 7: this guy. So I don't know, right, I love, but
Speaker 7: really the only lineman that I would consider going up
Speaker 7: for is Skearronsky.
Speaker 4: Hmmm, that's what you go up for. If he gets
Speaker 4: to like sixteen seventeen, I start making golf possibility. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't think. No, if he were to start getting
Speaker 4: into that territory call, there's a point, and.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Philadelphia might take ten.
Speaker 4: I think you're starting hear some chatter about Joey Porter
Speaker 4: sliding further that I don't know about to doubt, okay,
Speaker 4: sliding further than we had initially see like Dane referred
Speaker 4: to Joey Porter as mid to late twenties.
Speaker 2: Oh well, which if he starts.
Speaker 4: Getting to like twenty two twenty three, I might see.
Speaker 2: We did a little offense he did. Don't get too
Speaker 2: excited over there.
Speaker 5: No, we did a Love of the Star.
Speaker 6: We did a Love of the Star podcast this past Sunday,
Speaker 6: and we did the mock and it simularly and Porter
Speaker 6: got to us.
Speaker 7: I know you took him over Jackson Smith and Jigba,
Speaker 7: but I'd have done the same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. I sew you would now. But
Speaker 4: that's I think that if he were to get to
Speaker 4: a certain range, like early twenties, I might start calling
Speaker 4: for that too. I call up on Joey Porter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got Porter as my number eleven player in
Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba at fourteen, So I think I
Speaker 3: would join you guys in that regard.
Speaker 2: That one's tough, all right.
Speaker 3: What is the worst kept secret of the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: draft process so far?
Speaker 2: Based off of the rumors that you have in particular,
Speaker 2: it's a great question this year.
Speaker 3: Uh, he doesn't specify, but we could do either one
Speaker 3: this year or in years past.
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 4: I mean in years past, the worst cup secret was
Speaker 4: they draft off the thirty list, and that's not as
Speaker 4: relevant the last couple of years. It doesn't feel like
Speaker 4: I'm trying to some guys there no I know, but
Speaker 4: like their first pick with like it was alway knew
Speaker 4: it was somebody at the top thirty was not I
Speaker 4: don't think Parsons had one scheduled when they ended out
Speaker 4: picking it. Now, obviously that was that was not the
Speaker 4: COVID year was the year before. But like the year before,
Speaker 4: they hadn't scheduled Lamb for they were't going to schedule
Speaker 4: Lamb for a visit Mike, I don't think had a
Speaker 4: thirty and so they they haven't always done it during
Speaker 4: the mccarthyear. It hasn't been as hard and fast rule presently.
Speaker 4: I don't know what would be that. What's a what's
Speaker 4: a poor I feel like they're keeping secrets pretty well
Speaker 4: this time around.
Speaker 5: They're there.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you this, they're hunting running backs.
Speaker 6: That's a poorly, poorly kept secret is they're clearly going
Speaker 6: to draft a quarterback.
Speaker 2: I was sitting over here waiting quietly.
Speaker 4: But Howard, what Howard? If you're talking about if anybody,
Speaker 4: they don't pick one in the first five.
Speaker 5: Rounds, you think, so okay?
Speaker 2: There later than what? Okay?
Speaker 6: They went and they did a private workout and had
Speaker 6: a zoom meeting with Aidan O'Connell from Purdue.
Speaker 2: What do you think about him?
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6: I have him in the fourth round. I haven't bet
Speaker 6: ninety six, my ninety six best player overall.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: I was asking this because Dane berug Gonna asked me
Speaker 6: a question about He asked me about a quarterback for
Speaker 6: his mock draft and he said.
Speaker 5: Who would you Who would you.
Speaker 6: Think if they took a quarterback in the fourth round
Speaker 6: And I said, I said, aid O'Connell from Purdue. He said,
Speaker 6: he's gone on my board. He's already gone. So to me,
Speaker 6: if if Dallas was serious about an O'Connell quarterback Purdue,
Speaker 6: they might have to take him in the third round,
Speaker 6: that that might be it. Because they're doing some work
Speaker 6: on this guy. I mean, you know, we've we've seen
Speaker 6: oh well they brought in tune in this for Dallas
Speaker 6: day and all that, you know, whatever visits, you know,
Speaker 6: but the one guy that appears that they've done that,
Speaker 6: they're let's go out and work a guy out, kind
Speaker 6: of bit private workout, go out.
Speaker 2: They didn't want anybody else to.
Speaker 5: See him throwing the ball or what they were going
Speaker 5: to put him through.
Speaker 6: This might be one of the worst kept secrets that
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, we're sitting there at some point
Speaker 6: in time and aight, O'Connell's on that board.
Speaker 5: And they're gonna they're gonna hand that card in.
Speaker 3: Man, I think it's Clayton Tune and My same same deal,
Speaker 3: same kind of thing. But with Clayton Tune from Houston
Speaker 3: is kind of that guy that I have circled.
Speaker 2: And I think it goes to what they've looked at
Speaker 2: in quarterbacks in the past.
Speaker 4: They look for.
Speaker 3: Decision making, leadership, ability, mobility, which is a big thing.
Speaker 3: Is you know, Connell is a true pocket passer. He
Speaker 3: is not going to run it a whole lot. Clayton
Speaker 3: Tune can be mobile, he can kind of rotate. He's
Speaker 3: not the most.
Speaker 5: Comfortable moving around like that what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: But I you know, I tuned specifically.
Speaker 6: Yeah, with Tune, I mean he's not a runner, no,
Speaker 6: but he You're right, he can move. But both these
Speaker 6: guys are like, you know, five years starters. Yeah, Tune
Speaker 6: is Tune is a guariance, is there captain? Three time captain.
Speaker 6: We're starting to have a time in this in football where.
Speaker 5: We're you know, it used to be, oh well, let's
Speaker 5: take the.
Speaker 6: One year guy. You know, there's a reason why Hindon
Speaker 6: Hooker he is a six year senior. There's there's reasons
Speaker 6: why people. It happened last year with Brock Purdy. You know,
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, it's like you take a guy
Speaker 6: that's mature, that's played a lot of snaps, that's a captain.
Speaker 6: You know, that's that's what you get in uh O'Connell.
Speaker 5: In tune and Hooker and guys like that.
Speaker 2: They're there.
Speaker 6: You know, you're if you're you're drafting Richardson, hold on
Speaker 6: your ass, here we go. You know you're getting a
Speaker 6: guy that doesn't have a whole hell of a lot
Speaker 6: of experience. Man, he passes the eye test. But these
Speaker 6: teams are starting to look at maybe maybe the kids
Speaker 6: with the most experienced and the most games played are
Speaker 6: the ones that come in and.
Speaker 2: Do the best jobs.
Speaker 3: There's an analytical study out there, and I got to
Speaker 3: go find it.
Speaker 2: I don't know where it was.
Speaker 3: But it's talking about how quarterbacks that have at least
Speaker 3: one thousand pass attempts in college seemingly have more success.
Speaker 3: There's a higher percentage of success rate around those quarterbacks
Speaker 3: when they make it to the NFL.
Speaker 6: That s two two cognitive tests. It's a cognitive test.
Speaker 6: The Cowboys have been using that for years. You figure
Speaker 6: out who the top guys are that and the numbers
Speaker 6: I heard were that that Bryce Young was one of
Speaker 6: the top guys and C. J.
Speaker 5: Stroud was one of the lower guys.
Speaker 6: You know, and if you believe in that S two test,
Speaker 6: well you know that that tells a lot about these
Speaker 6: quarterbacks that.
Speaker 2: Is so far, it has been pretty pretty impressive there.
Speaker 7: And and both those guys O'Connell in tune, they've got
Speaker 7: the size like they're both six two six three. They've
Speaker 7: got that prototypical size you're looking for, which makes me
Speaker 7: feel bad about my guy, Jaron Hall, who is the
Speaker 7: one that I would probably like to tell but I
Speaker 7: like him too.
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Jaron. What do you like
Speaker 2: about him? Let's go, Yeah, what what do you think
Speaker 2: about him?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I like how he delivers the ball. I feel like
Speaker 9: I feel like his pocket presence.
Speaker 8: Is good and it's good enough to me, it's good
Speaker 8: enough for him to come in and be a guy
Speaker 8: into Brian's To Brian's point, we are in a league
Speaker 8: now where you saw more backup quarterbacks play than we
Speaker 8: I think we've ever seen have to come into play.
Speaker 8: But for this team in particular, when you talk about
Speaker 8: the quarterback position. I love Dak Prescott. I think he's
Speaker 8: a great quarterback, right. I think he's a good quarterback
Speaker 8: right now. However, he has had injuries this last couple
Speaker 8: of years, so you start preparing for the fact that
Speaker 8: you've seen what Cooper Rush can do.
Speaker 9: You've seen this, you've seen his his ceiling.
Speaker 8: Right, So bringing in another guy to me is it's
Speaker 8: about that time.
Speaker 9: I think it's about that time also too, keeps the
Speaker 9: competition fresh.
Speaker 8: But yeah, you're going to see a guy come in,
Speaker 8: but as far yeah, but yeah, that's how I feel
Speaker 8: about them drafting quarterback. Is it a problem? How are
Speaker 8: you guys going to feel about it? If they do
Speaker 8: draft a quarterback? There's I think it's great.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Dak's not a guy. I mean, Dak's not Carson Wentz.
Speaker 7: He's not mentally fragile. He's not going to get rattled
Speaker 7: by this. If anything, I think Dak welcomes the competition absolutely.
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz.
Speaker 9: Don't know him like that.
Speaker 5: He's proven that.
Speaker 2: Thing out of the league. Right. Tuaish's point.
Speaker 3: Five quarterbacks were taken in Day three yesterday, right or
Speaker 3: not yesterday?
Speaker 4: Gosh?
Speaker 3: Last year, five quarterbacks were taken on day three. Four
Speaker 3: of them had to start at some point in the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to come in.
Speaker 6: And this is not a bad group. When you watch
Speaker 6: Hayin from Fresno. Thompson Robinson, he's got people like him.
Speaker 6: I mean it's a drop back. It's like, oh look, god,
Speaker 6: we're gonna now. I mean, some of his best players
Speaker 6: are him running.
Speaker 2: He They're all him running.
Speaker 9: I was watching him yesterday.
Speaker 8: I was watching him, and I think, what's gonna sell
Speaker 8: people on Thompson Robinson? Also to looking at the shrine
Speaker 8: ball and all this stuff is a lot of the
Speaker 8: character off the field stuff. A lot of people are
Speaker 8: very high on what he brings to the locker room
Speaker 8: and just his calmness and all that stuff too.
Speaker 9: So I feel like it's a sure it's both.
Speaker 7: He's clearly put in the work every year because he
Speaker 7: improved every year in CLA. So I can understand and
Speaker 7: talk about starts. Most starts in school history there forty eight.
Speaker 7: But that throwing motion he's got from the hip, long winding.
Speaker 6: Motions crazy, I did not like, I know it's it's nuts,
Speaker 6: but I mean his ability.
Speaker 5: I mean I remember a long wind up motion. Randall Cunningham.
Speaker 6: He's like he had a buggy whip for all that thing,
Speaker 6: which that thing went, you know, he went way back
Speaker 6: and it comes flying through. But he's the mobility and stuff.
Speaker 6: I mean, we we you can, like I said, I
Speaker 6: watched Stetson.
Speaker 5: Bennett same way.
Speaker 2: I mean, tiny guy, but.
Speaker 5: All he did was win.
Speaker 2: Sure, all he did was win.
Speaker 6: And so you know that's if you're kind of looking
Speaker 6: for those guys in day three what you're talking about,
Speaker 6: you know, but I think the Cowboys, if I had
Speaker 6: to say, they maybe focused on a guy. And I
Speaker 6: know you, I respect what you're saying about to but
Speaker 6: that you know that kid at.
Speaker 2: Purdue is a guy.
Speaker 5: Keep an eye on that.
Speaker 4: Tanner McKee from Stanford first round prospect, right, Brian just
Speaker 4: cannot stop talking about the kid.
Speaker 9: He's a gamer. He's a gamer.
Speaker 5: Jared McKee, No, Jared, Jared.
Speaker 9: He just looks he just looks like he's.
Speaker 7: The guy that I would take. But Tanner McKee is
Speaker 7: not as good as anything. Yeah, Jared Hall, I love
Speaker 7: Jack Wilson, didn't do anything.
Speaker 4: Is going to need to like that. This is the
Speaker 4: time of system. Jared Hall has to walk into his
Speaker 4: West Coast because Jaron Hall is playing of time.
Speaker 2: I agree, good decision maker too. He doesn't hesitate.
Speaker 7: I Jared Hall, I don't think has the leadership question
Speaker 7: marks that Zach Wilson did. No, I don't think people
Speaker 7: respect Jack Wilson in that huddle. Oh and where were
Speaker 7: you last year we were.
Speaker 4: Talking about this guy.
Speaker 2: I was listening. All right, idots, that's it for Twitter
Speaker 2: on the twenty.
Speaker 3: We'll answer some more tomorrow when we come back. I
Speaker 3: got a couple more factor FIBs to throw out there,
Speaker 3: and then we'll wrap things up and get you ready
Speaker 3: for tomorrow's episode with more of the draft show right
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Speaker 1: Today is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show.
Speaker 2: H Back, You're on the Draft Show final segment, but.
Speaker 5: Bobby can leave.
Speaker 4: Bobby Cross talk today. Were sounds like you're out of
Speaker 4: crosstalk today. You're your too lose.
Speaker 2: My god?
Speaker 3: Uh rowe Hit is how you say the guy's name
Speaker 3: on Twitter? On the twenty he just sent me a
Speaker 3: pronunciation guy. Thank you very much, ro Hit appreciate it.
Speaker 3: All right, let's do some more Factor phib. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: start with Brian on this one. Jamir Gibbs will go
Speaker 3: in the first round Alabama running back. I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: in the top thirty two.
Speaker 6: You're saying that's a I think that's a fib. I
Speaker 6: think that's a fib falls out. I think that to me,
Speaker 6: that yeah, and I think it's I think there's going
Speaker 6: to be a little bit of a run on these
Speaker 6: uh on these running backs. But I don't think if
Speaker 6: the one running back that goes in the first I
Speaker 6: believe it's it.
Speaker 5: Will be uh Robertson.
Speaker 2: But Gibbs. Gibbs is one of those guys that Shawn Johnson.
Speaker 2: Gibbs is just super, super impressive.
Speaker 6: But I kind of think second round Gibbs a Chain
Speaker 6: Texas A and m.
Speaker 5: Sharpano from UCLA.
Speaker 6: I think those are the guys you kind of can see,
Speaker 6: you know, maybe we get started into that the beginning
Speaker 6: of the or the I think Gibbs will be the
Speaker 6: next back, but I think he'll be early in the second.
Speaker 2: It's where he would go.
Speaker 4: Can I I got one that I'm curious about it.
Speaker 4: We discussed this a little bit with Jim Naggi the
Speaker 4: other day. Spears out of Tommy, out of bar goes
Speaker 4: in the first round?
Speaker 5: What there's buzz Who did milk?
Speaker 2: The who would take him? The Eagles at thirty?
Speaker 5: Who did milk?
Speaker 2: Did milk? Kiper mind?
Speaker 4: Kiper mocked out of Barri to the Cowboys about a
Speaker 4: month ago in the first round.
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you're not taking him as an edge, I
Speaker 8: think he has a lot of I think he has lipside.
Speaker 9: I mean, I mean, I'm.
Speaker 5: Thinking most people view him as a tackle that's a tackle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking at him as an edge.
Speaker 8: No, No, don't you dare Yeah, because it's definitely definitely skewed.
Speaker 5: Well, I think I don't disagree with her. I kind
Speaker 5: of felt like some of his best work was it tackle.
Speaker 2: I thought all the spash splash places.
Speaker 9: I don't think his best work is going to come
Speaker 9: from tackle.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch him.
Speaker 8: We'll come from d tackle because of the explosiveness and
Speaker 8: that small amount of space. I think that's what causes
Speaker 8: people problems with him, is that speed.
Speaker 2: Onto something here.
Speaker 7: I think the Saints at twenty nine, that's an interesting
Speaker 7: team to look out for.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And Naggie, Jim Naggie told us he was like that,
Speaker 4: people are you got? Media has been slow on him.
Speaker 4: We had somebody tweeted us on Love the Star that
Speaker 4: we were doing and they tweeted a comp that. Ever
Speaker 4: since they sent me the comp, I can't unsee it.
Speaker 4: When iked Michael Bennett, it's very Michael. You know, he's
Speaker 4: very Michael Bennett.
Speaker 7: I'll say this, I think he's going to be a
Speaker 7: better d tackle than Cancy.
Speaker 9: Whew, that's fair.
Speaker 2: Now that's a hot take. I would take him over Cancy.
Speaker 9: I don't believe it's a hot take.
Speaker 8: I don't believe it's a hot take because of the like,
Speaker 8: there's a viciousness that he plays with that.
Speaker 9: I don't see.
Speaker 2: And he's way longer.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't see.
Speaker 8: And there's an explosion that I think that he has
Speaker 8: that's going to it's gonna be a problem. It's gonna
Speaker 8: be a problem for sinners. It's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 9: I mean, we talked about it, and I know that
Speaker 9: Brian definitely.
Speaker 8: Was like, people are gonna go through how this guy,
Speaker 8: like I remember when we first started talking about him,
Speaker 8: month to go like, but he's he's somebody that is
Speaker 8: definitely gone kind of under the radar since the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 8: since he killed the combine, and I don't see.
Speaker 9: A lot of people talking about him as much.
Speaker 8: But I agree with you that guy.
Speaker 5: I don't want that kind.
Speaker 8: But the athleticism is just it's through the charge to
Speaker 8: be somebody that can play in the middle of the defense.
Speaker 2: Would you take him over can Sy? I don't think
Speaker 2: I would. I wouldn't either.
Speaker 6: You know what, though in a in a yeah, it's
Speaker 6: very that's a mess.
Speaker 5: Well, no, it's and.
Speaker 6: It's another one of those things like Brecy, you know
Speaker 6: from Clemson. I mean, figure these guys out. We got
Speaker 6: Carter that's got maturity problems. Brec does he play well
Speaker 6: all the time?
Speaker 5: Can Sy? Is he overrated?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 6: I mean you know I'm looking at I'm looking at
Speaker 6: Dexter from floor, I'm looking at all these guys. I'm like, man,
Speaker 6: I see flashes of really good play and they terrify it.
Speaker 5: And you know, when you.
Speaker 6: Guys were saying that he could be better than Chancy,
Speaker 6: I couldn't fire back at you and say no.
Speaker 2: Because I'm not.
Speaker 6: I think Chancy I've seen more behind the line plays,
Speaker 6: and I'm kind of projecting our Northwestern kid to play
Speaker 6: inside where I've seen Chancy play inside.
Speaker 2: But I can't.
Speaker 6: I can't, like shoot down what you guys are saying
Speaker 6: about him.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 4: It's interesting when you mentioned Bresy there. Yeah, I know
Speaker 4: we laughed at this a month ago, and if it happens,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to apologize to the CBS. Slappy whatever
Speaker 4: his name was, I forget.
Speaker 2: I can't even remember. I don't watch his work anymore.
Speaker 4: Christo Passo, Yes, was that you know? Kiper and had
Speaker 4: Miles Murphy sliding to the thirties.
Speaker 7: Yeah, see what the heck's going on with this? I
Speaker 7: think Miles Murphy's getting disrespected. I would take to he's
Speaker 7: your Lawrence replacement eventually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, interesting stuff.
Speaker 5: I have him over Nolan Smith, and I really like
Speaker 5: Nolan Smith.
Speaker 2: He's a more complete player. Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 3: All right, five quarterbacks will go in the first round,
Speaker 3: all five of them, Richardson, Hooker, Levis, and then the
Speaker 3: top two guys, Bryce Young and c J.
Speaker 2: Strath At all of them are going. Everybody's on the head.
Speaker 6: When you mocked him, I kind of was like, man,
Speaker 6: he's being really creative here. And then now it's like
Speaker 6: everybody's kind of caught up with the Hendon Hookers.
Speaker 5: And I think it's even more fascinating that there are.
Speaker 6: People that like Hndon Hooker over Richardson, which I think
Speaker 6: is interesting.
Speaker 8: I really really, you know what it's exactly.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's interesting to me because people are people
Speaker 6: are saying that Hooker. I think if Hooker wasn't injured,
Speaker 6: if he wasn't hurt. I think he would be over Richardson.
Speaker 2: I think I would talk about that too. I would
Speaker 2: take him, you would take him over Stroud. I don't
Speaker 2: think C. J. Stroud is going to be a good player.
Speaker 4: Wow, why is it?
Speaker 7: I'm just I'm going with my I gotta trust my eye.
Speaker 7: I saw him watch it. To watch that Georgia game.
Speaker 7: Georgia is the best game, the best game he played career.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like watching Smith and Jig play against Utah.
Speaker 4: When you watch Stroud do what he does to George,
Speaker 4: you're literally watching him playing that NFL defense.
Speaker 7: Yes, and that's me made me think, like, what in
Speaker 7: the world I'm so wrong about him?
Speaker 2: But I just got to stick to my gut and
Speaker 2: if I'm right to that and got.
Speaker 4: The one that's did you did you?
Speaker 2: Did you take it? Would you take Hooker over Richardson
Speaker 2: because of the experience and stuff?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I mean I would.
Speaker 2: In this watch, it doesn't beat.
Speaker 9: Now hand in. Hooker was a It was an interesting watch.
Speaker 9: It was a fun watch.
Speaker 3: He's mechanically sound, yeast six years taken in the first
Speaker 3: round with an A.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we got to get over it.
Speaker 7: I think you social.
Speaker 4: I watched him play enough to know he's.
Speaker 2: Not Yeah, he ain't going on the first Sorry, guys,
Speaker 2: go mean green all right?
Speaker 9: Cop five quarterback.
Speaker 4: Definitely for I think that I.
Speaker 8: Think that people are gonna go quarterback and it's gonna
Speaker 8: mess up.
Speaker 9: That's gonna change the whole board.
Speaker 7: That's why the first quarterback slides.
Speaker 4: Somebody is a border line. They're going early.
Speaker 9: Why are you laughing? I do have a question, though,
Speaker 9: real real, real quick. Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 2: Beams? So we got a shot?
Speaker 9: Okay, no, no, no, ask you a question. Okay.
Speaker 8: So if if you didn't get Darnelle right, yeah, and
Speaker 8: you didn't get I don't know who's the next, obviously
Speaker 8: you wouldn'tet Scronski. Okay, where'd you take Matthew Bergeron in
Speaker 8: the second round?
Speaker 4: Right than we talk about Oh.
Speaker 8: I love that's why you want And when you talk
Speaker 8: about the fifth play and when you talk about maybe
Speaker 8: moving to guard would be.
Speaker 4: A trade back guy for early thirties, I would take you.
Speaker 9: Would take Bergeron?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 9: That's all I had to ask, because I feel like
Speaker 9: I was I've been.
Speaker 8: Looking at him for over a month now, but just
Speaker 8: seeing his feet and how it gets and he's.
Speaker 2: A maler and he's balanced, strong hands.
Speaker 9: Oh absolutely. When I saw him, I said, Terry Steele.
Speaker 15: That's you with some hair.
Speaker 4: When you say you think that, uh, Darnell writes a
Speaker 4: better player than Tyler Smith is right now, I agree
Speaker 4: with that, but that's more because of the polish. Like
Speaker 4: I think Tyler Smith's tools are better than what Darnell
Speaker 4: rights are. I think that Bergeron's tools are better.
Speaker 5: Than I'm gonna I'm a coward.
Speaker 2: I'm award agree with that, but I like Bergon a lot.
Speaker 4: Well, you're wrong, and that's okay.
Speaker 2: Evaluate line.
Speaker 6: I'm a coward on this one because I got Darwin
Speaker 6: Jones over Bergon, but I got him like right there
Speaker 6: next to each other.
Speaker 7: From Jones sloppy technique.
Speaker 2: Guy, I've got I've got.
Speaker 3: Jones and malk in front of Bergeron. Actually, so I'm not.
Speaker 7: I love Cody Mauk. Don't get me wrong, that dude's
Speaker 7: an absolute beast, But on the top.
Speaker 5: Of my I could be really wrong about him.
Speaker 8: I immediately looked at and thought, like, when you look
Speaker 8: at the effort, the finishing ability, the athleticism, that like
Speaker 8: all that stuff, the kickstep is there.
Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, if I'm trying to run.
Speaker 8: The ball and deal with speedy d NS and stuff
Speaker 8: coming off that, this guy I think can.
Speaker 9: Get his hands.
Speaker 2: You're not too off about Dwan Jones. They's huge. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's so, he's so tough. She likes she likes burn
Speaker 2: better than Jones.
Speaker 8: Right I do, Yeah, I mean yeah, But I will
Speaker 8: say I don't mind. I think Dwan Jones, I think
Speaker 8: his size throws people off because he looks he seems
Speaker 8: really heavy.
Speaker 9: But when you look at his build and now he
Speaker 9: looks he's not.
Speaker 7: And he's more athletic than Orlando Brown Junior and.
Speaker 6: Curris Johnson on one side and him, and you're like, going,
Speaker 6: it's not even athletically, it's not even c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud never had a dirty pocket to deal with in
Speaker 2: his entire A bunch of.
Speaker 8: It's somebody I'm definitely keeping my eye on.
Speaker 2: Keep your eyes on a Burger bus.
Speaker 20: That will be somere Oh gosh, we've got some more
Speaker 20: hot takes tomorrow. Yeah, if you have more hot takes tomorrow,
Speaker 20: We've got more information tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We'll take some of your questions tomorrow as well.
Speaker 3: As we are one week away from the NFL Draft
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