WEBVTT - Reclaiming the V Card 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.160 Help We Suck At Being Newlywed? 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:05.600 With Dean Ungler, Kylen Miller Keys and Jared Haven, an 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:06.880 iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:09.399 What is going on? Everybody? 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.360 Welcome to an all new episode of Help We Suck 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.520 At Being Newlyweds. We are all in different locations today. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:22.680 I am joined by the beautiful, angelic, perfect, intelligent, kind 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:24.840 sweet Jared Haven. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:26.960 I'm just kidding to. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.480 Say, what did he do? Why is he sucking up 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:30.960 so badly? 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:34.599 I was gonna say. Kaylin Miller Keys is joining us 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.080 from somewhere in the middle of Ohio. Right, is that 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:38.599 where you are? 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.840 Yes? Yes, that's where I am. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.320 And Jared's joining us leeveless from his home in Rhoe Island. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.559 I would think right home in. 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:49.920 Rhode Island, do I mean? I've been up since like 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:53.120 seven thirty. But you know what it was. I find 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.240 that I look best with bedheads, so I didn't do 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.160 I didn't put a hat on, I didn't put a 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.600 product in my hair. I went to run errands, and uh, 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:03.400 here I am. I've been working. So I got a 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.440 new car, I got a truck. I've been working on 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:06.080 this truck. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:06.800 Yeah. 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.760 I feel like there's times though, when I drive the 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.600 truck where I'm like, should I be blasting kid rock 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.399 and have two American flags on this thing? 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:16.520 Like that? 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.080 Is this a prerequisite? I don't know. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:19.800 Let me guess what. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.200 Let me guess what kind of truck you got? You 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:25.160 got a two thousand and twenty two Ford f one fifty. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.400 Ooh so close. It is a twenty twenty two. It's 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.160 a year old, but it would be a gmc denali. 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.560 Ah, dude, congratulations. Welcome to the Nanikes Club. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.400 Welcome. Do you have a truck? 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.840 Yeah, I got Toyota to columb on twenty twenty two. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.160 It's my pride and joy, my sweet baby, that my 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:44.800 that gets me in all these mountains that I'm trying 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:45.479 to climb out here. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.400 So it's you know, truck life is good. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:48.800 Do you have a car in Colorado? 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:51.360 Dean has like ten vehicles. 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.280 Excuse me, I drove it from Nevada. I'm like, I'm sleeping. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.040 I'm like living in the truck when I'm in Colorado, 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:58.160 not now, not when. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.800 We record, because you know, it's nice to have a 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.160 hotel room and Wi Fi and stuff. But I drive 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.440 it to the trailhead, which requires four wheel drive, so 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.560 I couldn't bring the van, and then I sleep in 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.560 the truck bed and then I go and hike. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.280 Sleep in the truck bed. Is it exposed tonight? 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:14.400 No. 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:15.920 I got like a cap over the top of it, 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:17.640 and I put like a bed frame in it. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:18.440 It's it's nice. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.760 It's really nice. It's like a five star hotel on wheels. 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.160 Maybe like a four star hotel. All right, maybe it's 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:24.120 like a three star hotel. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.000 Yeah, let's just keep going down and be more risk 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.120 and realistic. So you have the truck, you're the van. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.079 You have a motorcizer cycle and a Superman, and. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.760 Then I have a super U And I'll tell you what. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.880 Every car has its purpose. The van obviously gets used 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.600 for van things. The truck gets used for the truck things, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.560 and for this mission that I'm on right now. The 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.200 Subaru is used when I'm in Las Vegas and the 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.200 truck is in Colorado, and like if I fly back 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.520 or something, then the motorcycle, as we've talked about on 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.760 this podcast, is in Los Angeles permanently, so I can 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.240 drive that whenever I visit Los Angeles. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.799 For that having to get nubers, so it all works out. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.839 It all works out. But let's talk about cars. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.200 I want to hear from Kaylen if that's okay with you, guys, Kylen, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.280 tell us about what you're doing right now. Can you 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:07.800 share anything or do you want to kind of keep 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:08.799 it close to the chest. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:10.079 I can share. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.720 I'll be gone by the time this airs. But I'm 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.520 just in a cabin in the woods and Hawking Hills, 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:21.120 which is like an hour outside of Columbus, just a little, quick, 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.519 little girls trip. I've only been to Ohio a couple times, 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.680 and Hawking Hills keeps popping up on my Instagram. One 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.240 of my friends lives out here, so came out and 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.080 it is so beautiful. So there's three cabins and like 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.360 these massive windows everywhere so I can see this beautiful pond. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.920 There's like a family of four right by us, and 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.240 then this little couple. So it's like our own little 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:44.160 sanctuary out here. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:46.360 That's nice. What have you guys been doing? 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:47.160 Well? 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:51.400 Got in last night, got in the hot tub, made dinner. 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:52.240 That's it. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:54.960 We made a nice girl dinner. I don't know if 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.200 you've seen that on TikTok, but we made mac and cheese. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.960 Oh on TikTok. Now, I haven't really been on TikTok much. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.920 But it does look beautiful out there, and I guess 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.080 you just got there yesterday, So maybe if we had 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.360 this podcast today from now we get more experiences. But 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:07.440 what do you guys plan on doing? Are you going 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.160 to go on some hikes? Are you going to go kayaking? 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:11.280 Are you going to swim in the lake? 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:11.920 What are you going to do? 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.080 Yeah, we're planning on going on some hikes, but apparently 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:19.040 this past winter didn't get super cold, so the ticks 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.920 that we're supposed to die didn't die, and ticks season 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.680 is really really bad, so I'm a little nervous to 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:25.200 go on a hike. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.279 We need to find like some tick repellent before we 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:27.640 do that. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:28.960 Well, that sounds lovely, Caitlin. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.960 It looks like you're having sounds like you're having fun, 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.039 and I'm excited to hear all about it when we 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:38.760 get home next week, and I want to see some pictures. Yeah, 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.200 it sounds like you're having fun. That's great. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:44.000 Do any of your friends, like, so, how many girlfriends 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:44.440 do you go with? 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.159 This time? It's just me and another friend? 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.400 Okay, so it's just two of you. Does she have kids? 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:49.920 No? 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.640 All right, damn it because I'm really trying to figure 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.200 out how like logistically we can do this because I 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:59.240 think Ashley really needs a girl's trip, and so you know, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.719 I'm trying to figure out exactly, all right, how do 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.560 I send them away? Where can I send them to? 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.400 And then I just got to make sure I take 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:06.680 care of Dawson. But I kind of wanted to be 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.680 a surprise. I guess I'm spoiling it from the podcast. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.360 But I don't know, do you get You gave me 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:12.679 an idea when you said girl's trip? 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.640 Why can't she just like organize a girl's trip by yourself. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:16.760 Why do you have to send her away? 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.280 I don't have to, but I think it would be 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:24.320 a nice gesture, uh, because the problem is, like we've 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.159 talked about in Rhode Island. I'll tell you a quick story. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.160 Yesterday I got out of work and my buddy texted me. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:31.359 He was like, hey, do you want to golf? I 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.320 got out of work around like three and this he 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:34.000 was like, do you want to golf? 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:34.680 At four thirty? 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.880 And the country club you belonged to is it takes 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.760 freaking forever because it's the millin nor So it takes 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.640 It took us like a little over an hour to 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.440 get there, but then Ashley. So I asked Ashley and 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.560 she's was very hesitant. She's like, yeah, you know, because 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.040 she was home with Dawson and then she wants to 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.520 do something with me because she doesn't have any other 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.160 friends of Rhode Island, and so she's like, can I 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.400 can Dawson and I come? I said, yeah, of course. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.320 So she was texting with Kenny, my buddy because we 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.640 had you know, we're all friends. And they were driving 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:02.680 there and I was like, all right, what are you 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.680 gonna do? Well, yeah, I golf. I'll only you know, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.320 golf for like an hour and forty five minutes in 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.400 the nine host and she's like, no, We're gonna come 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.000 on the cart with you. And it was Dawson an Ashley, 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.599 and I was like, oh okay. And then we were 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.640 running late were I was already stressed because I just 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.680 worked at three. I was running literally. I was texting 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.479 my buddy being like, I'm just gonna jump on the 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.000 tea with you because there's no tea times afterwards. And 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.560 I was getting there directly the minute the tea off time. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.520 But then of course she was like, oh no, Dawson 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.200 and are coming with us. I'm like, actually, it's gonna 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:31.520 take it forever to get him out of the car 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:32.920 and in the car and like get this going, and 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.000 then he's gonna be crying on the freaking golf course 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:37.720 and we're gonna get kicked out of this country club 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.039 because we'd have a crying baby on the course. I 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:41.760 didn't say that because I was like, it's okay. So 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.560 of course we get on the course. He starts. He 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.599 wasn't too fussy, but he was like fussy enough. We're 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.760 driving past into the hole and they're like looking at 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.560 us because we have a baby on this golf court. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.360 Who was like wow. I'm like, oh Jesus Christ. So 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.720 they ended up leaving after the second hole. Long story short, 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.720 I felt terrible because then I was like, all right, 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.880 never run. I don't want golf anymore because it's too stressful. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.400 I can't even hit the ball off the tee because 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.919 like I'm just Dawson's making too much noise in the background. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.720 I'm too focused on that. And then of course I'm 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.520 having this realization in my head that the only way 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.120 Ashley has fun in Rhde Island is when she just 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.360 does things with me because we don't have that friend group. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.280 So this was all happening in my head. So she 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:15.920 left after the second hole, and then I was like, 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:17.440 I'm walking off the course. I'm not going to let 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.680 you guys just go and do your own thing if 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.640 you weren't planning on it. She's like, no, we'll be fine. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.320 Just finish the nine holes. So then like she was 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.400 walking away with Dawson, but she didn't pick him up 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.360 and walked away. She like was letting him walk. So 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.000 of course he was just like staring at me, and 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:31.880 I'm like, I'm the worst father of all time. This 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.760 is horrible. I'm choosing golf over my son. So I'm like, nope, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.120 I'm leaving. She's like no, no, no, you're staying. You're golfing. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.320 I'm going over here. We're fine. And so we were 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.760 arguing about that and I'm like, this is so fucking stupid. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.160 And then a long story short, I ended up finishing 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.000 that holes. I played terrible because I couldn't get out 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.120 of my own head. And then we just had a 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.440 long conversation so about like I feel terrible because it 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.320 feels like, you know, we don't have that dynamic right 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.120 now where you can do your own thing and I 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.800 can do my own thing and we could be happy 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.640 doing it because we're just not in that mode. So 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.880 when Caylen you mentioned the girls trip, I'll was like, oh, okay, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.240 if I can, you know, I want her to do 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.400 her own thing and be happy, you know what I mean. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.480 I want her to be happy with her friends. Yeah, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.240 It's like maybe if I send her on a girl 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.960 strip with Lauren or something like just to get away 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.960 for a couple of nights without Dawson. I know she 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.880 missed Dawson, but she'll be so all have like adult time. 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.520 So that's my thought process. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.080 That that's that's something I think that'll get better in 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.120 a couple in a couple of years. Right Like if 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.840 Dawston could if Dawston's like four and he's like more 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.200 aware of what's going on, you could just bring him 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.240 just Dawson and then as she could go off and 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.360 do whatever she wanted to do. Because I feel like 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.040 once you get past the hump of like fully having 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.199 the babysit, not babysit, but like you know, give a 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.280 hundred percent of your attention to the kid while it's 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.080 still so young. But when it gets a little older 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.840 at least you'll have some more leeway with that. But 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.360 I will say I've gone I've gone golfing it with 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:54.880 Kayln a couple of times in the cart and she 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.480 doesn't play, but she'll like sit with me, Kaylen, and 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.800 you can attest to this. And every time we've done it, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.480 maybe like three times total, twice in the past like 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.520 six months, and both of those times in the past 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.679 six months, I've every time I would hit the ball, 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:09.040 I'd be like, Kaylen, this is the most fun I've 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:09.920 ever had playing golf. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:11.000 It's great. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.120 You gotta play golf, you'd one of your favorite hobbies. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:15.480 And then you get to go back into the cart 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:16.840 and sit next to the love of your life. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.880 Well, who could ever possibly complain about that? 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.280 You know, it's different when you have a crying baby, obviously, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.440 but like you know, mine is the baby. 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:24.240 It's pretty nice. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.600 Yeah, And I feel bad because Dawson is like peque Dawson. 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.600 I love being around in so much right now. He 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:35.280 is just the best. He is happy, he's uh just 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.839 so energetic and he you know, like like we talked about, 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:43.000 like he's just that that that that that and it's like, dude, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.959 that is just the best feeling in the world. So 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.640 that was the other problem was that, like he was 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.000 walking away and I'm like, no, I don't want you, 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.160 like I would rather go with you than golf right now. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.400 But then of course Ashley was like, no, I feel bad. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.640 You work all the time. You should golf, and I'm like, no, 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.079 like I feel bad. You don't want to be in 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.440 RhE Island and you live here. So it's just like 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.440 a tale, you know, that old that old song and dance. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:07.679 Caitlyn. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.640 Can you weigh in on from a woman's perspective on 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:10.800 this situation. 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:17.720 Well, being childless? I don't. I don't think so, but yeah, 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.200 yeah I don't. I don't know. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.160 It would be nice when we eventually have kids to 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.880 you know, partake in your hobbies with you, but it 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.840 just sounds like it's a bit stressful, like my hobbies. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.120 No, Like, you know, Dean loves to golf. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.200 So when we have kids, you know, do what you 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.120 guys try to do, bring the kid on the golf course. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.240 But it just sounds it sounds a little challenging. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.319 Oh yeah, I mean we do. Ashley always does this 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.080 and I love her so much for wanting to do it, 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.960 because she's always so optimistic about the thought of doing 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.880 something rather than the practicality of doing it. For example, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.080 anytime we go out, it's like, oh, we should go 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.640 out to dinner. I'm like, yeah, we need a babysitter. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.800 She's like, no, we'll bring Dawson. Like, Ashley, why do 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:02.200 we continue going down this this cycle of misery where 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.320 we go to dinner, we bring Dawson. He's fun, but 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.400 it's just like it's not relaxing because our entire attention 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.600 pit span is on him, like don't do that, don't 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.199 pick that, No, you can't have that. Nope, We'll just 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.240 get his food as quick as possible. Yes, please, just 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.480 bring his food as fast as humanly possible. And then 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.600 he gets his food, and then we get our food 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.079 and he's like trying to reach for Oz and he's 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.959 crying because he sees us eating different food than him 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.280 and he wants whatever food we're eating. So then we 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.040 put on miss Rachel just to enjoy a dinner, and 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:29.400 then we're like, Okay, we'll take the check and get 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:30.840 out of here. And we're like, oh, that was nice, yeah, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.760 very nice. But it's like it's just a constant feeling 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.480 of guilt, where like all we're doing is focusing on Dawson, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.199 so we never sit down and have a conversation. And 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.120 then by the time our food comes, I feel terrible 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:41.680 because it's like, all right, we're gonna put Miss Rachel 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.400 on so we can eat. And then I'm like, well, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:44.880 now we're just putting a phone in front of him, 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.120 so why are we even going out to eat? At 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.160 least if we were home, we'd be able to like 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.160 interact with him or put something on the background on 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.280 the TV and then like eat while we're like playing 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.080 music or whatever. But anyway, this is the joy of 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.600 having children, ladies and gentlemen, and the problem Dawson. Jesus, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.200 you know I was just called you Dawson. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:02.640 I'm flattered. 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:05.520 You should be. He's a very good looking kid. But 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.960 what I was going to say, time is ticking. You know, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.280 we gotta start in number two if we want siblings soon. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.080 So you know, it's just like we're going to do 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.520 it all over again, so here we go. 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:15.240 Buckle up. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.080 Yeah, but it'll be it'll be better the second time, 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:21.120 because then you'll have a two year old. Dedicated babies 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.640 two year older dedicated babysitter for when that kid is 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.320 too you'll have a four year old that can watch 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:26.080 the two year old. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.400 Yeah, that's what people are telling us that, Like Dawson's 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:30.080 actually gonna be. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.440 A help right, right, right right at least, maybe not 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.199 like super helpful at first, but he'll like work his 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.120 way into it. It's so interesting to hear you talk 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.320 about it because my oldest brother has a baby who's 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.760 the exact same age as Dawson, and he his his 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.960 not gripes, but like his comments about being a dad 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.079 are so similar to yours. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:47.840 They're a little different. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.880 Like they just took their baby camping for the very 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.760 first time this past weekend, and he said it was 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.360 like one of the hardest things he's ever done. But 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:58.760 like similar to like you, like, you know, you go 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:00.640 out to dinner and it's like challenge, why are we 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.600 even doing this? But in the broad scheme of things, 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.640 it's like probably a good thing rather than just like 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.600 staying home with the baby until the baby's old enough 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.680 to talk or whatever, you know. But yeah, it's just interesting. 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.600 And then he's talking about a lot of that too. 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.480 He's like once the baby or once my baby child 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.480 is old enough because he like used to be a 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.760 really big rock climber and now he has to not 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.400 has to, but I guess gets to be on dad 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.840 duty a lot more often. He's like not able to 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.840 climb as much. So he's like when I'm fifty years 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.920 old and he's like forty. Now, It's like, when I'm fifty, 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:30.880 I'm going to be the strongest fifty year old rock 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.079 climber in the world because I'll be able to either 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.240 take the kids to the climbing gym or they'll be 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:37.679 able to stay home while I go out and do 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.839 the things that I'm interested in. So I think it's 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.800 just like a matter of delaying the things that you 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.640 want to do for like five or ten years and 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:44.440 then be getting really. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.640 Good at it later on. Yeah. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.800 Yeah, I've accepted that. I don't think Ashley has because 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.559 she's like, I want to do it now, and I'm like, 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.040 totally I understand because she's like, why can't we just 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:54.760 go out to dinner, Like why can't we do this? 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.280 I'm like Ashley, every parent in the world has informed us, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.040 like get traveling and all the things you want to 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.160 do out of your system, because when you have kids, 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.199 You're gonna have to just not do a lot of 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.280 the things that you want to do for a few years. 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:11.040 So I was like, we've gotta gotta gotta get through it. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.520 Gotta get through it. And he's so much fun at home. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.000 Caitlyn, how would you do with that? Do you think? 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:29.520 I was just thinking how how the both of us 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.040 would deal with that. I feel like we both have 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.680 very independent lives that I feel like, you know, who knows, 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:39.400 you know, we don't have kids, and we don't know 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:40.000 how hard it would be. 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:41.240 But I feel like you'd still be able to. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.120 I'd watch baby Debbie or baby Hunter, and you'd go 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:46.480 off and do your thing for a few days, and 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.640 then you know, you'd watch the babies and I'd go 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.600 do my things. But yeah, it'll be challenging because right 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.440 now we can just pick up and go and travel 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.480 and do whatever we want. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.080 So I'm taking the baby with me wherever I go. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.240 I know you say that, But the reason that I'm 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.160 so hesitant in having kids right now is because I 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:04.320 just love our freedom so much. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.760 M It is nice. It is nice to have the freedom. 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.040 Yeah, freedom is so great, right, Jared, I mean right, 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.480 Klein isn't freedom just so great? The fact that we 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.760 can just pick up and go to Ohio or Colorado 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.920 for as long as we want. But at the same 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.280 time too, Jared always talks about how much he loves 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.000 baby Dawson and how he's the most important thing in 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:24.000 his life and ever will be. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.200 Oh yeah, so it's like, you know, there. 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.520 Is would I would happily, like as much as it 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.560 sucks to sacrifice freedom, I would happily sacrifice my freedom 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.400 for Dawson, you know, like I would ever change. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.720 I would gladly be like a homebody for four years. 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:37.080 I think. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:38.520 I think if we had a baby, I would just 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:39.920 be a homebody for four years. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:41.560 That's crazy coming from you. 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.160 I swear I would do it. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.400 I could find new hot I'm pretty good at finding 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.480 new hobbies where I could do them from home that 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.960 I would like find fulfilling. I think, like whether it's 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.400 you know, building stuff around the house. Maybe I'll pick 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.800 up the sacks again. Maybe that kid is going to 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.640 grow up to be a jazz musician because I'm playing 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.680 the sacks for four years and then he picks it 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.280 up and starts playing better than me all of a sudden, 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:02.720 because I'm pretty bad at it as it is. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.840 But yeah, I don't know. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.680 You could hike with the baby too, hike close by 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:08.120 the house. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:08.680 Mm. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.720 Yeah, that's not like super fulfilling to me. But I'm 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.480 just saying I feel like I can find something. It's 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:18.680 different for us in our current situation, obviously because Jared 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.040 has the ten hour a day twelve our day job 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.200 that he does with Audrey's and we don't. 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:24.360 So I think we're kind of. 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.000 For We would force ourselves to find something to stay busy, 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:28.280 which is a. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.880 Good That was the giant mistake Dawson was not Have 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.320 you guys talked about going on your honeymoon? Like I 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.840 feel like you mentioned South Africa at some point. Is 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:38.480 that still go? 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.720 Yeah, I'm working on the hotels right now. We would 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.760 start in Cape Town and spend like three or four 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.280 nights in Cape Town and then go over and do 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.160 like a safari for a week, just trying to figure 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:51.080 out like where to go. 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:58.320 So I'm not too knowledgeable about South Africa except from 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:03.400 what I've seen in Blood Diamond. But Cape Town, there's 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:08.439 Johannesburg in Capetown. Correct, Yes, one is more dangerous than 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:08.760 the other. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.720 Correct, Dean's nodding, So I guess, so. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.040 Yeah, Johannesburg is more dangerous, joe Berg is more dangerous. 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:17.080 Yeah, got it. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:18.800 So you're going to Cape Town. Very nice. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.000 I've heard we'm going to joe Burg. We might get 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:22.399 a little danger in our lives. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.280 Why not. I don't welcome the danger. 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.400 You're not planning this trip. You don't get to say, yeah. 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:28.640 Oh, but I'm going on it, so I don't. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.880 It's my honeymoon, and I don't get to say if 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.480 we get our experience a little bit of danger, come on. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:35.800 Not if you don't help plan it, you gotta put 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:36.800 the legwork in bro. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:41.040 Mm hm, Well, I haven't been asked to help plan anything. 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.240 And I feel like we're still in the preliminary phases. 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.200 We don't even know when we're going. We don't even 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.879 know if we're going. I thought we're going to the Maldives. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:48.880 Oh we do. 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.440 We have the Belmont booked for four nights in Cape Town. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.520 So now we just have to figure out the safari part, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:55.439 which is being worked on. 0:17:55.720 --> 0:18:00.240 So you're going, yeah, we're going. And Dean, the idea 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:06.880 of Kaylin planning the trip, not asking for your opinion 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.000 and letting you know that because you didn't plan it, 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.080 you don't have a say in what the itinerary is. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:15.920 That's just called marriage, bro, So. 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:16.960 Just get yours up. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.280 Yeah, and it's gonna be the most perfect honeymoon. We'll 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:25.400 have the spa, we'll have tennis, we'll have great meals. 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.560 There's like this beautiful farm to table picnic with a 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.879 swing and yeah, it's gonna be great. He's gonna have 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.320 a great time. Lots of you know, murderous animals. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.360 It sounds like exactly like your kind of trip spas, tennis, 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.560 farm to table picnic. That's exactly like something you're gonna 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.840 absolutely love. And that's that's all I care about. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:46.760 That's Cape Town. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.359 And then the Safari is like, you know, more for 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.280 you waking up at five am, waking up for sunrise 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:54.679 taking photos. 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.560 Yeah, it's a good mix of both of us. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.560 Like Jared said, if you're planning it, you might as 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.440 well plan for your own interests. 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.920 I am no, I agree. I think that's how you should. 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.760 If I was more worried about it and I started 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.119 getting concerned about not having fun for myself, which I 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.719 will obviously, I would jump in and say no, no, no, no, no, 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.159 we're not doing this. We would do this instead. But 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:19.080 you know, I want you to go and have fun 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:20.480 and do the things that you want to do, and 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.080 then maybe I can work in some of my interests 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:22.760 while we're there too. 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:25.399 Well, yeah, I figured you wouldn't play tennis, so you 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.080 could go do your own thing while I'm playing tennis. 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:29.080 Well, who are going to play tennis against? 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.720 The Belmont has a tennis coach, so I'm going to 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:33.400 play as a coach. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.320 Hopefully he's not too good looking. 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:37.680 No, I hope he is. I hope he is good looking. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:39.679 I want Kaylen to it's. 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:40.960 Going to be like a long Tam Polly with the 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:42.560 scuba instructor for Scoopa. 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:48.560 Are you for tennis, Kalen? Yeah, that would stink. I'd 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.680 feel really bad about that. But well, Dean, if. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.600 You were to plan a honeymoon, where would you go? 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.919 Hmm? Oh? 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:58.639 Man, if I were to plan, well, I mean we 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.840 kind of agree. South Africa would the move for us. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.760 I just would do it a little differently, not better 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.119 by any stretch of the imagination. 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.200 I'm curious because you told me Cape Town. I was like, 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:09.480 how long do you want to spend in Capetown and 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.399 you're like Cape Town for three to four days and 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:12.840 then we'll do the safari the rest of the time. 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:14.200 I'm following your instructions. 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:16.199 Oh, I'm not. 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.960 I'm not being critical of your planning at all. I'm 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.560 saying I would I would just focus more on the 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.639 stuff that you could only do in South Africa, like 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.240 the so far, like you don't go to South Africa 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:30.919 to play tennis, not that you shouldn't play tennis when 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:32.400 you're in South Africa, but like you go to South 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.560 Africa for the animals, for the for the outdoors, whatever 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.880 it is. But I agree with your approach. Like half 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:40.480 and half is kind of what we would want to 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.120 do is like five days at a nice place where 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.639 we can relax and just kind of like lays around 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.840 and do whatever we wanted, whether you play tennis or 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.800 play golf, and then like seven days doing a safari 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.520 where we're going to get a bunch of cool pictures 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:56.080 and see a lot of cool animals and that kind 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:57.800 of stuff that's got that. I mean, if I were 0:20:57.840 --> 0:20:59.280 to plan it would be very similar to how you're 0:20:59.280 --> 0:20:59.440 doing it. 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:00.760 You're just better planning what I am. 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:04.320 Wait, So, so you would be planning the same trip essentially, 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:05.280 just a little different. 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:06.960 Yeah, I just like, you know, I just like being 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:11.399 critical of everything and everyone all, oh my gosh, No, 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.520 but you're doing great, and I think we're gonna have 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:14.080 an awesome time. 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:15.080 I hope it ends up happening. 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:16.880 I know you said you already got the hotels kind 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:18.879 of figured out, or at least starting to figure it out. 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.560 We're still like, what five months away. I've been going 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:22.040 on this thing. 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.240 So we're going to South Africa for our honeymoon. We 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.679 just I just need a book flights, and then the 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:31.399 flights kind of sucks. So we would fly to Europe 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:33.760 and then Europe to South Africa. So I think we 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:35.679 should spend a couple of days in Europe and then 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:36.680 go to South Africa. 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.520 Right, well, United is a direct flight from from Newark 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.960 to South Africa. So maybe hey, United Airlines, if you're 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.800 listening to this, we're going on our honeymoon. We would 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:48.119 love a direct flight from Newark to South Africa. Please 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.359 help us out because we really need it. Thank you 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.800 very much. That's right, United, That's how we're looking, Jared. 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:56.600 How are you guys looking on booking your accommodations for 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:58.439 our wedding. I guess getting any closer to that because 0:21:58.560 --> 0:21:59.920 time is a ticking. 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.240 Dude, Ashley does all that? Are you kidding me? 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:04.280 At this point, I'm worried you guys aren't gonna come. 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.359 Of course we're coming. When is it just kidding? 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.440 Dude? All right? I hope. 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.119 So we've had some wedding controversy on this podcast in 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:14.080 the past, and so. 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:16.440 I don't know. Come for the guy I don't. 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:22.680 Booked his flight, which was so sweet, Like eight months 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:24.680 before the wedding, he was like, Oh, my flight's booked, 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.520 I'm ready to go, and I'm like, this guy unbelievable, 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:31.800 so awesome. And then the day of the rehearsal dinner, Oh, 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.840 I by my flight got canceled. I'm re routed to 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.960 Boston and I got to drive down. I'm like, oh, dude, 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.280 that sucks, Like I can't believe your flight got canceled, 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.760 blah blah blah blah blah. And then I just found 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:47.960 out that he missed his flight, but I still. 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:48.760 Made it for the rehearsal dinner. 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:50.399 I still still made it for then, that's right. I 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:51.720 gave him great speech, great speech. 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:55.560 I totally forgot about that and then I was super 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:56.440 hung over the next day. 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:58.000 Your wedding was a lot of fun. I did have 0:22:58.040 --> 0:22:58.640 a lot of fun. 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.000 Well, you guys will have a lot of fun at 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:03.800 your wedding too. Just make sure you soak it all in, 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:05.719 don't stress, learn any planning. 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:07.760 I learned a few things from that, though. I don't 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:11.720 think I'm gonna drink it all at our wedding, at least. 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:13.840 I don't want to be bloated. I don't want to 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.919 be hungover, so I'm probably just gonna stay sober. And 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:18.439 Mike Jared said, soak it all in. 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.240 The problem with you, Dean is it feels like you 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.120 can't have one drink. It feels like you're the type 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.679 of person not to like put tags on you, but 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.159 it feels like you are unable. If you crack one open, 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:32.639 game is over. 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.080 Oh yeah, well, alcoholism runs in my family and that's 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:36.800 definitely part of it. 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:38.200 And once I have one sip. 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.639 It's it's game on, and no one knows what's gonna 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.479 happen next. So that's why I think i'd just be 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.959 best to avoid it altogether. And I haven't really been 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.000 drinking very much lately at all, and I'm starting to 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:51.439 finally get in good shape. So yeah, if if I 0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:55.160 stay sober, I'll stay slim and I'll stay sexy, and 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:59.119 my bride will think I'm handsome and cute, and so 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.159 that's enough of a and for me to stay sober. 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:04.480 You know, have you guys been actively thinking about that 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.119 because you're both in have always been in great shape. 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:09.840 Have you been trying to even get in better shape 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.679 for the wedding or is it just whatever Dean has. 0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.600 Been Dean, that's his main goal for doing the fourteen 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:15.880 ers right to be. 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.200 Hot and sexy for you. Yeah, that's that's a big 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:18.720 one for sure. 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.240 Yeah, you've lost a lot of weight. It's very impressive. 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.040 You didn't need to lose weight. I know you're just 0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:27.200 very critical of your body, but you've done a great job. 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:29.240 I need you start doing like crunches or push ups 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:31.119 or something, because while I'm getting slimmer, I need to 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.840 still maintain some muscle mass. So I need to get 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.160 into the gym, maybe like a month before the actual ceremony. 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.720 But you've been killing it. You're doing pull ups, you're 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:44.600 doing squat lunge extension things. Every time I look at 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.600 your Instagram, stories. You're doing some new workout I've never 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:46.919 heard of. 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.200 Yeah, my pull ups are pull up, they're assisted pull ups. 0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:53.320 They're not real pull ups, but they are fun and 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:54.240 the gym's been fun. 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:56.640 I started working. 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.639 Out like more consistently and harder, I feel like around 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.560 the time of got engaged, and solely for the wedding. 0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:03.879 But now I just like really enjoy the way I 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:07.080 feel so and I've heard from so many people they like, 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:08.800 work out so hard for the wedding and then they 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:12.000 just stop. And I'm really hoping I can like incorporate 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.240 this long term and make it a part of my routine. 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.680 And I'm not just gonna stop after the wedding. 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:17.200 But we'll see. 0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:19.840 You will if you feel great and you keep working out, 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:20.160 you will. 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.080 Are you satisfied with the results so far? You got 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:24.240 some crazy abs lately? 0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:30.399 I I, you know, I am happy with it. It's just, 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:33.119 you know, being a woman, my body ebbs and flows, 0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.760 and depending on what time of the month it is, 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:37.240 that's pretty frustrating. 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:38.800 It's like, I work out so hard. 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.800 And then you know, my period comes and I'm bloated 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:46.520 and feel like crap. So I'm just I'm just adjusting 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:50.000 to that, and I'm cycle sinking, which I've heard a 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:53.080 lot of people talk about on TikTok, and I think 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.479 it's really helped me, like not only with emotions, but 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.400 also with my body as well, and like being more 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.439 you know, positive in terms of my body. 0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:05.240 That makes sense, that's great. 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.960 Cycles sinking, cycle sinking. Yeah, So within your cycle, you 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:14.800 have four phases. There's the liteal phase and I forget 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.960 the rest. There's one that's ovulating, there's one that's your spirit, 0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.399 and then there's one more. And so with every phase 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.120 there's like certain things you should be eating. There are 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:28.640 follicular phase, thank you Easton, So there are certain things 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:30.720 you should be eating, certain ways you should be working out, 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.159 or like you know, being easy on your body. And 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.840 it's good to understand because sometimes I'm like I'm angry 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.479 right now or why am I feeling sad? And so 0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.280 cycle sinking just really helps you understand your body a 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:44.840 lot better. And there's you know, people who talk about 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.719 this and do a much better job of it. But 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:48.960 it has been interesting and really helpful so far. 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:51.320 Nice. That's cool. 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:53.119 How did you know that? 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.160 It's a very quick response. There's a podcast I work 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.960 on called scrubbing in with Cotillon tin you're at and 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.399 tiny's very into cycle sinking. I know a lot about 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:04.520 cycle sinking. 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:08.480 Got it, That's what I telling more than me nice 0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:10.480 because I felt like it really has been there for 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:10.879 a second. 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:11.720 Yeah, well, I. 0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.040 Also feel for not knowing about the sinking side I've got. 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.840 I've got a potentially TMI question, Caitlyn. I feel free 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.119 to just brush this off. Do you know, because you 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:22.720 can kind of plan when your cycle is going to 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.520 be every month, do you know where in the cycle 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.119 you'll be for our wedding weekend? 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.439 Yes, it keeps changing and it's pretty upsetting. So I 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.520 was supposed to be ovulating on the day. 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.920 Of our wedding. Let's see around now now I think. 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:40.480 I think now I'm supposed to be pmssing on the 0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:42.400 day of our wedding. Wait, let's see. Oh my god, 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:43.480 yeap pmssing. 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.280 No, just gonna say no, bro. 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.080 But uh, yeah, it keeps changing. So we'll see. 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.199 My brother and his wife conceived on the day of 0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.119 their wedding, so you know, we might. I guess we 0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.800 can't fall on those footsteps, which is unfortunate, but it. 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:00.439 Is what it is. 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.080 Yeah, it's probably for the best. 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.080 Maybe we'll have a wedding day miracle. 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:16.280 Who knows. 0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:20.520 I bet a lot of married couples I would say 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.719 more than fifty percent more often than not do not 0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:24.360 have sex on their wedding night because. 0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.040 It's just so like tiring and stuff. 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.320 Yeah. I was just talking to my friend about this. 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.080 She said they got married and then took photos and 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.399 then in between I guess the reception while people were 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.959 at cocktail hour right after, She's like, let's just have 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:39.320 sex because I know we're not going to have it 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.080 after the wedding. So they just went in the room, 0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.000 had sex, and then came out and started partying. 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:45.280 Nice, let's do that. 0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:50.760 That's crazy, man. Yeah, I don't know if I would 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.240 feel I guess I would be fine. Right, you just 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.200 go you have sex, but then you're like, Grandma, thank 0:28:56.200 --> 0:29:03.000 you so much for coming. You know, it's yeah, it's 0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:06.840 oh man, this is tm I. But you guys ever 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:11.280 get like like post guilt, you know what I mean. 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.080 You're like, I can't let anybody see it, like, you know, 0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:18.720 like see us right afterwards. I need like a minute 0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.440 to just be like, oh, okay, no, we're fine, No. 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:21.600 No way. 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.160 When I walk out with my shoulders held high, walking 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.400 out like a freaking like a batle evil, and no 0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.719 one knows why either, you know, And that's how I 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:31.160 like it too. 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:32.480 I don't want anyone to know what's going on. 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:34.360 I just want them to see my confidence stretch that 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:35.560 I'm that I'm having so. 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.240 But you know, and that's all that matters. 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:38.960 Yeah, I know, that's all that matters. 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.320 I can say, maybe we should do it before the ceremony, 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.640 but that would be that'd be bad because we have. 0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.160 To wait the first look it's for sex. 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.080 Yeah yeah, yeah, yea, yeah exactly, but that'd be bad 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:52.920 because we have to wait until we're married to even 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:54.360 engage in that type of action. 0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:56.520 Obviously, yah, of course. 0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.960 But you know what's hard is We've been to weddings 0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.480 where you know, either the groom and the bride or 0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.280 one or the other is saving themselves for marriage. And 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.400 I've talked to people afterwards, like the bride afterwards, and 0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.320 she's like, it's so awkward because so many people are 0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.280 talking about it at the wedding and like then everyone 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.000 knows like that night you're gonna have sex for the 0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.320 first time, and it's just like it feels so invasive, 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:18.600 you know. 0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.960 M Yeah, I think before our wedding, Calen, we should 0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.960 go through a process to be born again virgins. 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:25.440 I wonder what that would look. 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:29.240 Like, like, what does our virginity mm hmm, what kind 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:30.840 of hoops we'd have to jump through in order to 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.320 like get that confirmed, you know, with the church or 0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.080 whoever it might be. But like that'd be nice to 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.000 go into our wedding both pure. 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:38.400 Both pure. 0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.520 Well, I don't like it because you hate church, so 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:43.800 that would never happen. 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.360 Yeah, but I'll still do it, you know. I think 0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.320 it'd be fun fun to say we both lost our virginity. 0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:49.600 On our wedding night. 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:52.840 Yeah, he'll do it for the podcast. 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:55.520 You don't really cont that, yeah, exactly. 0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:59.360 I wonder how long you have to not have sex 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.120 for in order to be considered a born again virgin? 0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.240 You know, I think it's I think. 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.720 It's just like faith wise, you just like maybe go, 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.200 you know, I'm probably making this up. Go to your 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.520 pastor and you do a lot of work in like 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.720 months of like prayer and stuff, and then I don't know, 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:17.960 but that sounds like it's right. 0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:19.840 Can it be like done overnight? You know what I mean? 0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:21.840 You guys should the day before, you know, just be like, 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.240 all right, let's go get this over with, so tomorrow 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:25.200 we can be born. 0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.800 Again, like an online certificate or something, just like a 0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:30.240 quick expedited. 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:34.520 Version where I just thought a form. Yeah, I mean 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.040 there's everything for that these days. 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:37.280 If I want to be ordained, all I have to 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.040 do is jump online real quick and fill out a 0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:39.840 survey or whatever. 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:41.800 There's got to be a way to do it for 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:42.800 born again virgin too. 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.880 Oh yeah, it's probably all on the same website. You 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:49.640 can get ordained, you can get groupons for skiing, and 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.480 you can get a certificate to be a born again virgin. 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.680 Nice. Yeah, I think we should explore it. We need 0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.840 to explore it. But I think we've offended enough people 0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:00.680 as it is. Maybe we should move onto something else. 0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:02.120 Nah. 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:03.200 Never, Oh I. 0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:04.800 Almost died the other day. I can talk about that 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:05.320 real quick. 0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:06.400 How'd you almost die? 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:06.800 Oh? 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:11.600 Yeah, I almost fell off a mountain. I sent Kaylen 0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:12.120 a video of it. 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.760 It was pretty, Uh, it's pretty It's kind of hard 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.600 to see in the video of exactly what happens, but 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.320 I was walking down like this super narrow ridge really 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.920 high up off the It was like a two thousand 0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.160 foot ridge that's like maybe two feet wide, and I 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:30.120 like stepped down and I slipped, And if I slipped 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.280 and fell, I would have fallen two thousand feet and died. 0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.320 But I caught myself really quick and I got it 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.560 all on video, which might have helped. It might have 0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:39.520 been the reason why I slipped, but I don't think so, 0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.000 because it was in my hands and it was my 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.280 feet obviously that slipped. But you can like see my 0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.640 foot like sputter out and then I like catched myself 0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:50.120 on the rock at the last second, and it. 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.640 Was pretty terrifying. And then I had the video. 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.880 So I was like, I probably shouldn't send this to Kaylin, 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.840 But in hindsight, since I survived, like it's pretty funny. 0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.000 So I did, And yeah, that was my experience almost dying. 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.680 Yeah, it would have been funny if Kaylen witnessed your 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.840 death on video and she got it sent to you, 0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:08.840 you know, sent to her. 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.719 I gotta say, though, like, you know, if you are 0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.520 going to almost die, it's pretty cool to have it 0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.920 on camera. Like it's of all the things to have 0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.200 on camera, that's a cool thing they have on camera. 0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:20.240 So when it happened. 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.760 I like, I wasn't scared, and I wasn't like, oh 0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:24.600 that was a close one. I was in my head. 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:26.320 I was like, thank god, I was recording. 0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:28.880 How many close calls have you had. 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:31.920 Hiking wa is not. 0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.400 Really any Like that was probably the biggest one, the 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:37.880 one like that was the biggest one, where like it 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.440 was pretty obvious I was like a couple of inches 0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:43.400 away from death, whereas maybe before there have been close calls, 0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:47.040 but it hasn't been so obvious, you know, like I 0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.320 don't I don't know specific examples, but like that one 0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.800 was like if I if I continued to fall just 0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:53.600 a little bit more, I would have been done. 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:57.600 So so that was that was quite an experience. 0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.120 Is there ever a point where he would I have 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.760 such a close call where you would say, listen, you 0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.080 need to stop, you can't do this anymore. 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.360 Well, yeah, we talked about this, like his fourteen ers specifically, 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.080 and it has been causing me a lot of anxiety, 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.760 just this one in particular, these three, because his friend, 0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.800 who was fearless, said it was the scariest one, like 0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:21.879 the most dangerous one. He wasn't scared the whole time 0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.279 on this fourteen or expedition until this one, So I 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.320 wasn't sleeping for like three days leading up to it, 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:29.279 and while you were climbing. I didn't tell you this 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.400 because I don't like to tell him when I'm anxious, 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.280 to like put that anxiety on him when he's already 0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:38.000 doing like really scary stuff. But like it's like one 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.520 hundred and ten degrees in Vegas, and I was like shaking, 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.440 like shivering like it had such bad anxiety, and. 0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:44.239 I was like, is he alive? 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:44.719 Is he alive? 0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.040 I'm like checking stories of the friends that he's with. 0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.200 He's not texting me back, his satellite phone's not texting 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.359 me back like nothing, and I'm like the last time 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.320 his friend posted was two hours ago and then he 0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.640 texted me like twenty minutes later. But it causes me 0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:01.160 so much anxiety. And that one was definitely the worst one. 0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.640 But I wouldn't tell him to stop. You know, like, 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.880 when we have kids, I think it's it's important to 0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.680 like be a lot safer. You know, I want you 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.320 to live for me, But when we have kids, it's like, 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:14.759 you know, I want our kids to have a father. 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.760 So I wouldn't really say like stop, this is too scary, 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:20.759 but when we have kids, maybe just like be a 0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.359 little safer. But the thing, don't do the scary roots 0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.640 because Dean was doing the scary roots he had the 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:27.960 option to do when that's easier, and he's going out 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:29.319 of his way to do something that's harder. 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.600 Yeah, why do the scary roots, bro, Because it's way more, 0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.920 it's way more, it feels more accomplishing, I guess, and 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:36.680 it's more fun. 0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:38.600 But the thing is like, I don't want to die. 0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:39.560 I'm not ready to die. 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.800 So I'm like, yeah, I don't want you to be 0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.520 a widow either, But the thing like, I want to 0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.080 be alive more than I don't want you to be 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.480 a widow. So I'm still fighting for my own self preservation. 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:51.640 I'm not going to personfully go kill myself, you know 0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:52.040 what I mean. 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:54.000 Well, no, I'm saying that. 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.880 Yeah, I thought you meant you wanted like the feeling 0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.279 of being alive was more than Calvin being a widow. 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.319 I'm like, damn, bro, no, no, no. 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:05.880 No, el, I really feel like I'm not I'm not 0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:06.680 trying to die. 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:10.239 I have no interest in dying, So like that supersedes 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.839 any situation where like I'm not going to put myself 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.840 in a situation where I'm like, oh, I could probably 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:18.839 die here. It's all calculated in my head for better 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:20.960 for worse. I guess where I'm like, oh, I can 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.200 definitely do this, but like you know, accidents do happen, 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.319 of course, but same as accidents happen on the road 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.080 where people get into the car crashes and die and 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:29.880 it's very sad, it's no different than this. It's all 0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.319 you know, probability and all that kind of stuff where 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:33.920 it's like you could probably, I could probably do this 0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:35.840 and be fine, and I'm going to go and do 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:37.160 it and prove it to myself that I can. 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:39.600 That's basically what it is. 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.560 But that was the moment that where where I almost tripped, Yeah, 0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.800 where I was scared and Klen's kind of right. I 0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:48.640 was taking like more challenging roots up. I didn't wear 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.520 a helmet on this route the other day, and there's 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.759 like this big, long steep gully with a bunch of 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:55.279 loose rock in it, and I was with a group 0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.279 of three other people and I was like, well, I 0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:58.560 don't want to be in the gully with three other 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.000 people because they could kick rocks. 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.880 And hit me on the head, so I took I 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:04.360 just kind of like winged it. 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.640 I was like, this looks like a good route, and 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.080 I followed this ridge line all like two mile, well 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.200 like a mile and a half up to the summit, 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:13.560 and it was We started at like four am, so 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:15.160 it was super dark, and I got to this like 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:19.759 crazy like rock spire on the ridge and I was 0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.840 like tried to climb up. It got really freaking scared, 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.520 climbed down, and then I was like yelling to my 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:26.919 friends who were half a mile away. 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:28.480 I was like, I think I have to turn around. 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.040 I don't know what to do, Like I'm pretty freaked 0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.160 out right now. And then I like started looking at 0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:34.560 it again and I was like I can do it. 0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.440 I just have to freaking commit and get over it. 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.239 And then once I'm there and then I can figure 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:40.960 out what to do next. And it was like, like 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:42.759 I said, it was full dark out and so I 0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:44.239 was like shriving my head lamp on it trying to 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:44.800 find a solution. 0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.200 The rock is like super loose, so I get to the. 0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:48.560 Top of it and then I get to the ridge 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.239 and everything went well. But then afterwards I was like 0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.880 looking online to see if anyone else had done this, 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.239 you know, makeshift route that I had done, and it 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.280 turns out like ten people have done it, and it's. 0:37:59.200 --> 0:37:59.960 Like fifth class. 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.200 Yes, like five six climbing, which I can climb five 0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.080 six super easily. But normally you're like on a rope 0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.719 and you're protected and stuff, and it's daytime and you know, 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.040 there's a lot of other things kind of working in 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:09.399 your favor. 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.480 But this time I was like, I'm just gonna wing it. 0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:13.239 So Kalin's right, I do die. 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.360 I do kind of make things a little more difficult 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.680 for myself, sometimes intentionally because it's more fun and I 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.680 don't think I'm going to die and it's more of 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.080 an accomplishment at the end of the day. 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.320 M interesting. 0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:31.439 Is there a difference between route and root? Yeah? 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:33.120 Yeah, I don't know what it is though. I just 0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.319 say I say which every one I'm feeling in the moment, Yeah, I. 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.000 Agree, agreee. What do I say? 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:39.239 I think? 0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:40.520 I say root? What do you say round? 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:41.120 You say root? 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:42.839 I say yeah, I say route. 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:44.000 It depends. 0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.840 Yeah, but I say I I don't like that's I 0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:48.600 think I say both. 0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:51.640 I definitely say both. It's like, oh, that's the route 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:53.400 that's the route over there. 0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:54.759 I bet I was like, oh this, I bet you, 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.320 Oh yeah, right, route one forty six sounds I bet you. 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.759 Route is more or proper like root could sound like 0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:06.400 the root of like a plant, but route it's pretty 0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.560 obviously like they're they're out, you know. 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.520 So Easton says, I think root can be a verb 0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.319 and route is always a noun. 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:14.279 Neither. 0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.279 Wait, that's how you spelled right. 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:19.880 Anyway? 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.440 Yeah, definitely that ro O U t e is how 0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:27.520 you spelled both. But the way to pronounce it, you 0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.239 got to read it and pronounce it the right way. 0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.520 He's spelling it phonetically for us, it's a phonetic explanation, yeah, 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.960 because if he spelt it both the same way, then 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.080 we would have no idea which way he was he 0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:38.520 was going. 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.080 That makes sense. Uh well, thank you so much for 0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.960 everybody tuning into this week's episode of Help We Suck 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.319 at being newlyweds that will do it? Route or root? 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:51.279 Please follow us on Instagram. Uh same old Instagram. Were 0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.480 promoting the podcast on there with all our new stuff, 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:58.520 And thank you for listening. 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