Speaker 1: Help We Suck At Being Newlywed?
Speaker 2: With Dean Ungler, Kylen Miller Keys and Jared Haven, an
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: What is going on? Everybody?
Speaker 4: Welcome to an all new episode of Help We Suck
Speaker 4: At Being Newlyweds. We are all in different locations today.
Speaker 4: I am joined by the beautiful, angelic, perfect, intelligent, kind
Speaker 4: sweet Jared Haven.
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding to.
Speaker 1: Say, what did he do? Why is he sucking up
Speaker 1: so badly?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say. Kaylin Miller Keys is joining us
Speaker 3: from somewhere in the middle of Ohio. Right, is that
Speaker 3: where you are?
Speaker 5: Yes? Yes, that's where I am.
Speaker 4: And Jared's joining us leeveless from his home in Rhoe Island.
Speaker 3: I would think right home in.
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, do I mean? I've been up since like
Speaker 1: seven thirty. But you know what it was. I find
Speaker 1: that I look best with bedheads, so I didn't do
Speaker 1: I didn't put a hat on, I didn't put a
Speaker 1: product in my hair. I went to run errands, and uh,
Speaker 1: here I am. I've been working. So I got a
Speaker 1: new car, I got a truck. I've been working on
Speaker 1: this truck.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's times though, when I drive the
Speaker 1: truck where I'm like, should I be blasting kid rock
Speaker 1: and have two American flags on this thing?
Speaker 3: Like that?
Speaker 1: Is this a prerequisite? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Let me guess what.
Speaker 4: Let me guess what kind of truck you got? You
Speaker 4: got a two thousand and twenty two Ford f one fifty.
Speaker 1: Ooh so close. It is a twenty twenty two. It's
Speaker 1: a year old, but it would be a gmc denali.
Speaker 4: Ah, dude, congratulations. Welcome to the Nanikes Club.
Speaker 1: Welcome. Do you have a truck?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got Toyota to columb on twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: It's my pride and joy, my sweet baby, that my
Speaker 4: that gets me in all these mountains that I'm trying
Speaker 4: to climb out here.
Speaker 3: So it's you know, truck life is good.
Speaker 1: Do you have a car in Colorado?
Speaker 5: Dean has like ten vehicles.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I drove it from Nevada. I'm like, I'm sleeping.
Speaker 3: I'm like living in the truck when I'm in Colorado,
Speaker 3: not now, not when.
Speaker 4: We record, because you know, it's nice to have a
Speaker 4: hotel room and Wi Fi and stuff. But I drive
Speaker 4: it to the trailhead, which requires four wheel drive, so
Speaker 4: I couldn't bring the van, and then I sleep in
Speaker 4: the truck bed and then I go and hike.
Speaker 1: Sleep in the truck bed. Is it exposed tonight?
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: I got like a cap over the top of it,
Speaker 4: and I put like a bed frame in it.
Speaker 3: It's it's nice.
Speaker 4: It's really nice. It's like a five star hotel on wheels.
Speaker 4: Maybe like a four star hotel. All right, maybe it's
Speaker 4: like a three star hotel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just keep going down and be more risk
Speaker 1: and realistic. So you have the truck, you're the van.
Speaker 1: You have a motorcizer cycle and a Superman, and.
Speaker 4: Then I have a super U And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: Every car has its purpose. The van obviously gets used
Speaker 4: for van things. The truck gets used for the truck things,
Speaker 4: and for this mission that I'm on right now. The
Speaker 4: Subaru is used when I'm in Las Vegas and the
Speaker 4: truck is in Colorado, and like if I fly back
Speaker 4: or something, then the motorcycle, as we've talked about on
Speaker 4: this podcast, is in Los Angeles permanently, so I can
Speaker 4: drive that whenever I visit Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: For that having to get nubers, so it all works out.
Speaker 3: It all works out. But let's talk about cars.
Speaker 4: I want to hear from Kaylen if that's okay with you, guys, Kylen,
Speaker 4: tell us about what you're doing right now. Can you
Speaker 4: share anything or do you want to kind of keep
Speaker 4: it close to the chest.
Speaker 5: I can share.
Speaker 2: I'll be gone by the time this airs. But I'm
Speaker 2: just in a cabin in the woods and Hawking Hills,
Speaker 2: which is like an hour outside of Columbus, just a little, quick,
Speaker 2: little girls trip. I've only been to Ohio a couple times,
Speaker 2: and Hawking Hills keeps popping up on my Instagram. One
Speaker 2: of my friends lives out here, so came out and
Speaker 2: it is so beautiful. So there's three cabins and like
Speaker 2: these massive windows everywhere so I can see this beautiful pond.
Speaker 2: There's like a family of four right by us, and
Speaker 2: then this little couple. So it's like our own little
Speaker 2: sanctuary out here.
Speaker 3: That's nice. What have you guys been doing?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: Got in last night, got in the hot tub, made dinner.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 2: We made a nice girl dinner. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've seen that on TikTok, but we made mac and cheese.
Speaker 3: Oh on TikTok. Now, I haven't really been on TikTok much.
Speaker 4: But it does look beautiful out there, and I guess
Speaker 4: you just got there yesterday, So maybe if we had
Speaker 4: this podcast today from now we get more experiences. But
Speaker 4: what do you guys plan on doing? Are you going
Speaker 4: to go on some hikes? Are you going to go kayaking?
Speaker 4: Are you going to swim in the lake?
Speaker 3: What are you going to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're planning on going on some hikes, but apparently
Speaker 2: this past winter didn't get super cold, so the ticks
Speaker 2: that we're supposed to die didn't die, and ticks season
Speaker 2: is really really bad, so I'm a little nervous to
Speaker 2: go on a hike.
Speaker 5: We need to find like some tick repellent before we
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 3: Well, that sounds lovely, Caitlin.
Speaker 4: It looks like you're having sounds like you're having fun,
Speaker 4: and I'm excited to hear all about it when we
Speaker 4: get home next week, and I want to see some pictures. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it sounds like you're having fun. That's great.
Speaker 1: Do any of your friends, like, so, how many girlfriends
Speaker 1: do you go with?
Speaker 5: This time? It's just me and another friend?
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's just two of you. Does she have kids?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: All right, damn it because I'm really trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how like logistically we can do this because I
Speaker 1: think Ashley really needs a girl's trip, and so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out exactly, all right, how do
Speaker 1: I send them away? Where can I send them to?
Speaker 1: And then I just got to make sure I take
Speaker 1: care of Dawson. But I kind of wanted to be
Speaker 1: a surprise. I guess I'm spoiling it from the podcast.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, do you get You gave me
Speaker 1: an idea when you said girl's trip?
Speaker 3: Why can't she just like organize a girl's trip by yourself.
Speaker 3: Why do you have to send her away?
Speaker 1: I don't have to, but I think it would be
Speaker 1: a nice gesture, uh, because the problem is, like we've
Speaker 1: talked about in Rhode Island. I'll tell you a quick story.
Speaker 1: Yesterday I got out of work and my buddy texted me.
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, do you want to golf? I
Speaker 1: got out of work around like three and this he
Speaker 1: was like, do you want to golf?
Speaker 3: At four thirty?
Speaker 1: And the country club you belonged to is it takes
Speaker 1: freaking forever because it's the millin nor So it takes
Speaker 1: It took us like a little over an hour to
Speaker 1: get there, but then Ashley. So I asked Ashley and
Speaker 1: she's was very hesitant. She's like, yeah, you know, because
Speaker 1: she was home with Dawson and then she wants to
Speaker 1: do something with me because she doesn't have any other
Speaker 1: friends of Rhode Island, and so she's like, can I
Speaker 1: can Dawson and I come? I said, yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: So she was texting with Kenny, my buddy because we
Speaker 1: had you know, we're all friends. And they were driving
Speaker 1: there and I was like, all right, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Well, yeah, I golf. I'll only you know,
Speaker 1: golf for like an hour and forty five minutes in
Speaker 1: the nine host and she's like, no, We're gonna come
Speaker 1: on the cart with you. And it was Dawson an Ashley,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh okay. And then we were
Speaker 1: running late were I was already stressed because I just
Speaker 1: worked at three. I was running literally. I was texting
Speaker 1: my buddy being like, I'm just gonna jump on the
Speaker 1: tea with you because there's no tea times afterwards. And
Speaker 1: I was getting there directly the minute the tea off time.
Speaker 1: But then of course she was like, oh no, Dawson
Speaker 1: and are coming with us. I'm like, actually, it's gonna
Speaker 1: take it forever to get him out of the car
Speaker 1: and in the car and like get this going, and
Speaker 1: then he's gonna be crying on the freaking golf course
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get kicked out of this country club
Speaker 1: because we'd have a crying baby on the course. I
Speaker 1: didn't say that because I was like, it's okay. So
Speaker 1: of course we get on the course. He starts. He
Speaker 1: wasn't too fussy, but he was like fussy enough. We're
Speaker 1: driving past into the hole and they're like looking at
Speaker 1: us because we have a baby on this golf court.
Speaker 1: Who was like wow. I'm like, oh Jesus Christ. So
Speaker 1: they ended up leaving after the second hole. Long story short,
Speaker 1: I felt terrible because then I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: never run. I don't want golf anymore because it's too stressful.
Speaker 1: I can't even hit the ball off the tee because
Speaker 1: like I'm just Dawson's making too much noise in the background.
Speaker 1: I'm too focused on that. And then of course I'm
Speaker 1: having this realization in my head that the only way
Speaker 1: Ashley has fun in Rhde Island is when she just
Speaker 1: does things with me because we don't have that friend group.
Speaker 1: So this was all happening in my head. So she
Speaker 1: left after the second hole, and then I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm walking off the course. I'm not going to let
Speaker 1: you guys just go and do your own thing if
Speaker 1: you weren't planning on it. She's like, no, we'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Just finish the nine holes. So then like she was
Speaker 1: walking away with Dawson, but she didn't pick him up
Speaker 1: and walked away. She like was letting him walk. So
Speaker 1: of course he was just like staring at me, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm the worst father of all time. This
Speaker 1: is horrible. I'm choosing golf over my son. So I'm like, nope,
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. She's like no, no, no, you're staying. You're golfing.
Speaker 1: I'm going over here. We're fine. And so we were
Speaker 1: arguing about that and I'm like, this is so fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: And then a long story short, I ended up finishing
Speaker 1: that holes. I played terrible because I couldn't get out
Speaker 1: of my own head. And then we just had a
Speaker 1: long conversation so about like I feel terrible because it
Speaker 1: feels like, you know, we don't have that dynamic right
Speaker 1: now where you can do your own thing and I
Speaker 1: can do my own thing and we could be happy
Speaker 1: doing it because we're just not in that mode. So
Speaker 1: when Caylen you mentioned the girls trip, I'll was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: if I can, you know, I want her to do
Speaker 1: her own thing and be happy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I want her to be happy with her friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like maybe if I send her on a girl
Speaker 1: strip with Lauren or something like just to get away
Speaker 1: for a couple of nights without Dawson. I know she
Speaker 1: missed Dawson, but she'll be so all have like adult time.
Speaker 1: So that's my thought process.
Speaker 4: That that's that's something I think that'll get better in
Speaker 4: a couple in a couple of years. Right Like if
Speaker 4: Dawston could if Dawston's like four and he's like more
Speaker 4: aware of what's going on, you could just bring him
Speaker 4: just Dawson and then as she could go off and
Speaker 4: do whatever she wanted to do. Because I feel like
Speaker 4: once you get past the hump of like fully having
Speaker 4: the babysit, not babysit, but like you know, give a
Speaker 4: hundred percent of your attention to the kid while it's
Speaker 4: still so young. But when it gets a little older
Speaker 4: at least you'll have some more leeway with that. But
Speaker 4: I will say I've gone I've gone golfing it with
Speaker 4: Kayln a couple of times in the cart and she
Speaker 4: doesn't play, but she'll like sit with me, Kaylen, and
Speaker 4: you can attest to this. And every time we've done it,
Speaker 4: maybe like three times total, twice in the past like
Speaker 4: six months, and both of those times in the past
Speaker 4: six months, I've every time I would hit the ball,
Speaker 4: I'd be like, Kaylen, this is the most fun I've
Speaker 4: ever had playing golf.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 4: You gotta play golf, you'd one of your favorite hobbies.
Speaker 4: And then you get to go back into the cart
Speaker 4: and sit next to the love of your life.
Speaker 3: Well, who could ever possibly complain about that?
Speaker 4: You know, it's different when you have a crying baby, obviously,
Speaker 4: but like you know, mine is the baby.
Speaker 3: It's pretty nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel bad because Dawson is like peque Dawson.
Speaker 1: I love being around in so much right now. He
Speaker 1: is just the best. He is happy, he's uh just
Speaker 1: so energetic and he you know, like like we talked about,
Speaker 1: like he's just that that that that that and it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: that is just the best feeling in the world. So
Speaker 1: that was the other problem was that, like he was
Speaker 1: walking away and I'm like, no, I don't want you,
Speaker 1: like I would rather go with you than golf right now.
Speaker 1: But then of course Ashley was like, no, I feel bad.
Speaker 1: You work all the time. You should golf, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: like I feel bad. You don't want to be in
Speaker 1: RhE Island and you live here. So it's just like
Speaker 1: a tale, you know, that old that old song and dance.
Speaker 3: Caitlyn.
Speaker 4: Can you weigh in on from a woman's perspective on
Speaker 4: this situation.
Speaker 5: Well, being childless? I don't. I don't think so, but yeah,
Speaker 5: yeah I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It would be nice when we eventually have kids to
Speaker 2: you know, partake in your hobbies with you, but it
Speaker 2: just sounds like it's a bit stressful, like my hobbies.
Speaker 5: No, Like, you know, Dean loves to golf.
Speaker 2: So when we have kids, you know, do what you
Speaker 2: guys try to do, bring the kid on the golf course.
Speaker 2: But it just sounds it sounds a little challenging.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean we do. Ashley always does this
Speaker 1: and I love her so much for wanting to do it,
Speaker 1: because she's always so optimistic about the thought of doing
Speaker 1: something rather than the practicality of doing it. For example,
Speaker 1: anytime we go out, it's like, oh, we should go
Speaker 1: out to dinner. I'm like, yeah, we need a babysitter.
Speaker 1: She's like, no, we'll bring Dawson. Like, Ashley, why do
Speaker 1: we continue going down this this cycle of misery where
Speaker 1: we go to dinner, we bring Dawson. He's fun, but
Speaker 1: it's just like it's not relaxing because our entire attention
Speaker 1: pit span is on him, like don't do that, don't
Speaker 1: pick that, No, you can't have that. Nope, We'll just
Speaker 1: get his food as quick as possible. Yes, please, just
Speaker 1: bring his food as fast as humanly possible. And then
Speaker 1: he gets his food, and then we get our food
Speaker 1: and he's like trying to reach for Oz and he's
Speaker 1: crying because he sees us eating different food than him
Speaker 1: and he wants whatever food we're eating. So then we
Speaker 1: put on miss Rachel just to enjoy a dinner, and
Speaker 1: then we're like, Okay, we'll take the check and get
Speaker 1: out of here. And we're like, oh, that was nice, yeah,
Speaker 1: very nice. But it's like it's just a constant feeling
Speaker 1: of guilt, where like all we're doing is focusing on Dawson,
Speaker 1: so we never sit down and have a conversation. And
Speaker 1: then by the time our food comes, I feel terrible
Speaker 1: because it's like, all right, we're gonna put Miss Rachel
Speaker 1: on so we can eat. And then I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: now we're just putting a phone in front of him,
Speaker 1: so why are we even going out to eat? At
Speaker 1: least if we were home, we'd be able to like
Speaker 1: interact with him or put something on the background on
Speaker 1: the TV and then like eat while we're like playing
Speaker 1: music or whatever. But anyway, this is the joy of
Speaker 1: having children, ladies and gentlemen, and the problem Dawson. Jesus,
Speaker 1: you know I was just called you Dawson.
Speaker 3: I'm flattered.
Speaker 1: You should be. He's a very good looking kid. But
Speaker 1: what I was going to say, time is ticking. You know,
Speaker 1: we gotta start in number two if we want siblings soon.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's just like we're going to do
Speaker 1: it all over again, so here we go.
Speaker 3: Buckle up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it'll be it'll be better the second time,
Speaker 4: because then you'll have a two year old. Dedicated babies
Speaker 4: two year older dedicated babysitter for when that kid is
Speaker 4: too you'll have a four year old that can watch
Speaker 4: the two year old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what people are telling us that, Like Dawson's
Speaker 1: actually gonna be.
Speaker 4: A help right, right, right right at least, maybe not
Speaker 4: like super helpful at first, but he'll like work his
Speaker 4: way into it. It's so interesting to hear you talk
Speaker 4: about it because my oldest brother has a baby who's
Speaker 4: the exact same age as Dawson, and he his his
Speaker 4: not gripes, but like his comments about being a dad
Speaker 4: are so similar to yours.
Speaker 3: They're a little different.
Speaker 4: Like they just took their baby camping for the very
Speaker 4: first time this past weekend, and he said it was
Speaker 4: like one of the hardest things he's ever done. But
Speaker 4: like similar to like you, like, you know, you go
Speaker 4: out to dinner and it's like challenge, why are we
Speaker 4: even doing this? But in the broad scheme of things,
Speaker 4: it's like probably a good thing rather than just like
Speaker 4: staying home with the baby until the baby's old enough
Speaker 4: to talk or whatever, you know. But yeah, it's just interesting.
Speaker 4: And then he's talking about a lot of that too.
Speaker 4: He's like once the baby or once my baby child
Speaker 4: is old enough because he like used to be a
Speaker 4: really big rock climber and now he has to not
Speaker 4: has to, but I guess gets to be on dad
Speaker 4: duty a lot more often. He's like not able to
Speaker 4: climb as much. So he's like when I'm fifty years
Speaker 4: old and he's like forty. Now, It's like, when I'm fifty,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be the strongest fifty year old rock
Speaker 4: climber in the world because I'll be able to either
Speaker 4: take the kids to the climbing gym or they'll be
Speaker 4: able to stay home while I go out and do
Speaker 4: the things that I'm interested in. So I think it's
Speaker 4: just like a matter of delaying the things that you
Speaker 4: want to do for like five or ten years and
Speaker 4: then be getting really.
Speaker 3: Good at it later on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've accepted that. I don't think Ashley has because
Speaker 1: she's like, I want to do it now, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: totally I understand because she's like, why can't we just
Speaker 1: go out to dinner, Like why can't we do this?
Speaker 1: I'm like Ashley, every parent in the world has informed us,
Speaker 1: like get traveling and all the things you want to
Speaker 1: do out of your system, because when you have kids,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to just not do a lot of
Speaker 1: the things that you want to do for a few years.
Speaker 1: So I was like, we've gotta gotta gotta get through it.
Speaker 1: Gotta get through it. And he's so much fun at home.
Speaker 3: Caitlyn, how would you do with that? Do you think?
Speaker 2: I was just thinking how how the both of us
Speaker 2: would deal with that. I feel like we both have
Speaker 2: very independent lives that I feel like, you know, who knows,
Speaker 2: you know, we don't have kids, and we don't know
Speaker 2: how hard it would be.
Speaker 5: But I feel like you'd still be able to.
Speaker 2: I'd watch baby Debbie or baby Hunter, and you'd go
Speaker 2: off and do your thing for a few days, and
Speaker 2: then you know, you'd watch the babies and I'd go
Speaker 2: do my things. But yeah, it'll be challenging because right
Speaker 2: now we can just pick up and go and travel
Speaker 2: and do whatever we want.
Speaker 3: So I'm taking the baby with me wherever I go.
Speaker 2: I know you say that, But the reason that I'm
Speaker 2: so hesitant in having kids right now is because I
Speaker 2: just love our freedom so much.
Speaker 3: M It is nice. It is nice to have the freedom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, freedom is so great, right, Jared, I mean right,
Speaker 4: Klein isn't freedom just so great? The fact that we
Speaker 4: can just pick up and go to Ohio or Colorado
Speaker 4: for as long as we want. But at the same
Speaker 4: time too, Jared always talks about how much he loves
Speaker 4: baby Dawson and how he's the most important thing in
Speaker 4: his life and ever will be.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so it's like, you know, there.
Speaker 1: Is would I would happily, like as much as it
Speaker 1: sucks to sacrifice freedom, I would happily sacrifice my freedom
Speaker 1: for Dawson, you know, like I would ever change.
Speaker 3: I would gladly be like a homebody for four years.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: I think if we had a baby, I would just
Speaker 4: be a homebody for four years.
Speaker 5: That's crazy coming from you.
Speaker 3: I swear I would do it.
Speaker 4: I could find new hot I'm pretty good at finding
Speaker 4: new hobbies where I could do them from home that
Speaker 4: I would like find fulfilling. I think, like whether it's
Speaker 4: you know, building stuff around the house. Maybe I'll pick
Speaker 4: up the sacks again. Maybe that kid is going to
Speaker 4: grow up to be a jazz musician because I'm playing
Speaker 4: the sacks for four years and then he picks it
Speaker 4: up and starts playing better than me all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: because I'm pretty bad at it as it is.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: You could hike with the baby too, hike close by
Speaker 5: the house.
Speaker 6: Mm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not like super fulfilling to me. But I'm
Speaker 4: just saying I feel like I can find something. It's
Speaker 4: different for us in our current situation, obviously because Jared
Speaker 4: has the ten hour a day twelve our day job
Speaker 4: that he does with Audrey's and we don't.
Speaker 3: So I think we're kind of.
Speaker 4: For We would force ourselves to find something to stay busy,
Speaker 4: which is a.
Speaker 1: Good That was the giant mistake Dawson was not Have
Speaker 1: you guys talked about going on your honeymoon? Like I
Speaker 1: feel like you mentioned South Africa at some point. Is
Speaker 1: that still go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm working on the hotels right now. We would
Speaker 2: start in Cape Town and spend like three or four
Speaker 2: nights in Cape Town and then go over and do
Speaker 2: like a safari for a week, just trying to figure
Speaker 2: out like where to go.
Speaker 1: So I'm not too knowledgeable about South Africa except from
Speaker 1: what I've seen in Blood Diamond. But Cape Town, there's
Speaker 1: Johannesburg in Capetown. Correct, Yes, one is more dangerous than
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 5: Correct, Dean's nodding, So I guess, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Johannesburg is more dangerous, joe Berg is more dangerous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, got it.
Speaker 1: So you're going to Cape Town. Very nice.
Speaker 4: I've heard we'm going to joe Burg. We might get
Speaker 4: a little danger in our lives.
Speaker 3: Why not. I don't welcome the danger.
Speaker 5: You're not planning this trip. You don't get to say, yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, but I'm going on it, so I don't.
Speaker 4: It's my honeymoon, and I don't get to say if
Speaker 4: we get our experience a little bit of danger, come on.
Speaker 1: Not if you don't help plan it, you gotta put
Speaker 1: the legwork in bro.
Speaker 4: Mm hm, Well, I haven't been asked to help plan anything.
Speaker 4: And I feel like we're still in the preliminary phases.
Speaker 4: We don't even know when we're going. We don't even
Speaker 4: know if we're going. I thought we're going to the Maldives.
Speaker 5: Oh we do.
Speaker 2: We have the Belmont booked for four nights in Cape Town.
Speaker 2: So now we just have to figure out the safari part,
Speaker 2: which is being worked on.
Speaker 1: So you're going, yeah, we're going. And Dean, the idea
Speaker 1: of Kaylin planning the trip, not asking for your opinion
Speaker 1: and letting you know that because you didn't plan it,
Speaker 1: you don't have a say in what the itinerary is.
Speaker 1: That's just called marriage, bro, So.
Speaker 5: Just get yours up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's gonna be the most perfect honeymoon. We'll
Speaker 2: have the spa, we'll have tennis, we'll have great meals.
Speaker 2: There's like this beautiful farm to table picnic with a
Speaker 2: swing and yeah, it's gonna be great. He's gonna have
Speaker 2: a great time. Lots of you know, murderous animals.
Speaker 4: It sounds like exactly like your kind of trip spas, tennis,
Speaker 4: farm to table picnic. That's exactly like something you're gonna
Speaker 4: absolutely love. And that's that's all I care about.
Speaker 5: That's Cape Town.
Speaker 2: And then the Safari is like, you know, more for
Speaker 2: you waking up at five am, waking up for sunrise
Speaker 2: taking photos.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good mix of both of us.
Speaker 4: Like Jared said, if you're planning it, you might as
Speaker 4: well plan for your own interests.
Speaker 3: I am no, I agree. I think that's how you should.
Speaker 4: If I was more worried about it and I started
Speaker 4: getting concerned about not having fun for myself, which I
Speaker 4: will obviously, I would jump in and say no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: we're not doing this. We would do this instead. But
Speaker 4: you know, I want you to go and have fun
Speaker 4: and do the things that you want to do, and
Speaker 4: then maybe I can work in some of my interests
Speaker 4: while we're there too.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I figured you wouldn't play tennis, so you
Speaker 2: could go do your own thing while I'm playing tennis.
Speaker 3: Well, who are going to play tennis against?
Speaker 2: The Belmont has a tennis coach, so I'm going to
Speaker 2: play as a coach.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he's not too good looking.
Speaker 3: No, I hope he is. I hope he is good looking.
Speaker 3: I want Kaylen to it's.
Speaker 1: Going to be like a long Tam Polly with the
Speaker 1: scuba instructor for Scoopa.
Speaker 3: Are you for tennis, Kalen? Yeah, that would stink. I'd
Speaker 3: feel really bad about that. But well, Dean, if.
Speaker 1: You were to plan a honeymoon, where would you go?
Speaker 3: Hmm? Oh?
Speaker 4: Man, if I were to plan, well, I mean we
Speaker 4: kind of agree. South Africa would the move for us.
Speaker 4: I just would do it a little differently, not better
Speaker 4: by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 2: I'm curious because you told me Cape Town. I was like,
Speaker 2: how long do you want to spend in Capetown and
Speaker 2: you're like Cape Town for three to four days and
Speaker 2: then we'll do the safari the rest of the time.
Speaker 5: I'm following your instructions.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not being critical of your planning at all. I'm
Speaker 4: saying I would I would just focus more on the
Speaker 4: stuff that you could only do in South Africa, like
Speaker 4: the so far, like you don't go to South Africa
Speaker 4: to play tennis, not that you shouldn't play tennis when
Speaker 4: you're in South Africa, but like you go to South
Speaker 4: Africa for the animals, for the for the outdoors, whatever
Speaker 4: it is. But I agree with your approach. Like half
Speaker 4: and half is kind of what we would want to
Speaker 4: do is like five days at a nice place where
Speaker 4: we can relax and just kind of like lays around
Speaker 4: and do whatever we wanted, whether you play tennis or
Speaker 4: play golf, and then like seven days doing a safari
Speaker 4: where we're going to get a bunch of cool pictures
Speaker 4: and see a lot of cool animals and that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff that's got that. I mean, if I were
Speaker 4: to plan it would be very similar to how you're
Speaker 4: doing it.
Speaker 3: You're just better planning what I am.
Speaker 2: Wait, So, so you would be planning the same trip essentially,
Speaker 2: just a little different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just like, you know, I just like being
Speaker 4: critical of everything and everyone all, oh my gosh, No,
Speaker 4: but you're doing great, and I think we're gonna have
Speaker 4: an awesome time.
Speaker 3: I hope it ends up happening.
Speaker 4: I know you said you already got the hotels kind
Speaker 4: of figured out, or at least starting to figure it out.
Speaker 3: We're still like, what five months away. I've been going
Speaker 3: on this thing.
Speaker 2: So we're going to South Africa for our honeymoon. We
Speaker 2: just I just need a book flights, and then the
Speaker 2: flights kind of sucks. So we would fly to Europe
Speaker 2: and then Europe to South Africa. So I think we
Speaker 2: should spend a couple of days in Europe and then
Speaker 2: go to South Africa.
Speaker 4: Right, well, United is a direct flight from from Newark
Speaker 4: to South Africa. So maybe hey, United Airlines, if you're
Speaker 4: listening to this, we're going on our honeymoon. We would
Speaker 4: love a direct flight from Newark to South Africa. Please
Speaker 4: help us out because we really need it. Thank you
Speaker 4: very much. That's right, United, That's how we're looking, Jared.
Speaker 4: How are you guys looking on booking your accommodations for
Speaker 4: our wedding. I guess getting any closer to that because
Speaker 4: time is a ticking.
Speaker 1: Dude, Ashley does all that? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: At this point, I'm worried you guys aren't gonna come.
Speaker 1: Of course we're coming. When is it just kidding?
Speaker 3: Dude? All right? I hope.
Speaker 4: So we've had some wedding controversy on this podcast in
Speaker 4: the past, and so.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Come for the guy I don't.
Speaker 1: Booked his flight, which was so sweet, Like eight months
Speaker 1: before the wedding, he was like, Oh, my flight's booked,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, and I'm like, this guy unbelievable,
Speaker 1: so awesome. And then the day of the rehearsal dinner, Oh,
Speaker 1: I by my flight got canceled. I'm re routed to
Speaker 1: Boston and I got to drive down. I'm like, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: that sucks, Like I can't believe your flight got canceled,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. And then I just found
Speaker 1: out that he missed his flight, but I still.
Speaker 3: Made it for the rehearsal dinner.
Speaker 1: I still still made it for then, that's right. I
Speaker 1: gave him great speech, great speech.
Speaker 4: I totally forgot about that and then I was super
Speaker 4: hung over the next day.
Speaker 3: Your wedding was a lot of fun. I did have
Speaker 3: a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Well, you guys will have a lot of fun at
Speaker 1: your wedding too. Just make sure you soak it all in,
Speaker 1: don't stress, learn any planning.
Speaker 4: I learned a few things from that, though. I don't
Speaker 4: think I'm gonna drink it all at our wedding, at least.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be bloated. I don't want to
Speaker 4: be hungover, so I'm probably just gonna stay sober. And
Speaker 4: Mike Jared said, soak it all in.
Speaker 1: The problem with you, Dean is it feels like you
Speaker 1: can't have one drink. It feels like you're the type
Speaker 1: of person not to like put tags on you, but
Speaker 1: it feels like you are unable. If you crack one open,
Speaker 1: game is over.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, alcoholism runs in my family and that's
Speaker 4: definitely part of it.
Speaker 3: And once I have one sip.
Speaker 4: It's it's game on, and no one knows what's gonna
Speaker 4: happen next. So that's why I think i'd just be
Speaker 4: best to avoid it altogether. And I haven't really been
Speaker 4: drinking very much lately at all, and I'm starting to
Speaker 4: finally get in good shape. So yeah, if if I
Speaker 4: stay sober, I'll stay slim and I'll stay sexy, and
Speaker 4: my bride will think I'm handsome and cute, and so
Speaker 4: that's enough of a and for me to stay sober.
Speaker 1: You know, have you guys been actively thinking about that
Speaker 1: because you're both in have always been in great shape.
Speaker 1: Have you been trying to even get in better shape
Speaker 1: for the wedding or is it just whatever Dean has.
Speaker 2: Been Dean, that's his main goal for doing the fourteen
Speaker 2: ers right to be.
Speaker 3: Hot and sexy for you. Yeah, that's that's a big
Speaker 3: one for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've lost a lot of weight. It's very impressive.
Speaker 2: You didn't need to lose weight. I know you're just
Speaker 2: very critical of your body, but you've done a great job.
Speaker 4: I need you start doing like crunches or push ups
Speaker 4: or something, because while I'm getting slimmer, I need to
Speaker 4: still maintain some muscle mass. So I need to get
Speaker 4: into the gym, maybe like a month before the actual ceremony.
Speaker 4: But you've been killing it. You're doing pull ups, you're
Speaker 4: doing squat lunge extension things. Every time I look at
Speaker 4: your Instagram, stories. You're doing some new workout I've never
Speaker 4: heard of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my pull ups are pull up, they're assisted pull ups.
Speaker 2: They're not real pull ups, but they are fun and
Speaker 2: the gym's been fun.
Speaker 5: I started working.
Speaker 2: Out like more consistently and harder, I feel like around
Speaker 2: the time of got engaged, and solely for the wedding.
Speaker 2: But now I just like really enjoy the way I
Speaker 2: feel so and I've heard from so many people they like,
Speaker 2: work out so hard for the wedding and then they
Speaker 2: just stop. And I'm really hoping I can like incorporate
Speaker 2: this long term and make it a part of my routine.
Speaker 2: And I'm not just gonna stop after the wedding.
Speaker 5: But we'll see.
Speaker 1: You will if you feel great and you keep working out,
Speaker 1: you will.
Speaker 3: Are you satisfied with the results so far? You got
Speaker 3: some crazy abs lately?
Speaker 2: I I, you know, I am happy with it. It's just,
Speaker 2: you know, being a woman, my body ebbs and flows,
Speaker 2: and depending on what time of the month it is,
Speaker 2: that's pretty frustrating.
Speaker 5: It's like, I work out so hard.
Speaker 2: And then you know, my period comes and I'm bloated
Speaker 2: and feel like crap. So I'm just I'm just adjusting
Speaker 2: to that, and I'm cycle sinking, which I've heard a
Speaker 2: lot of people talk about on TikTok, and I think
Speaker 2: it's really helped me, like not only with emotions, but
Speaker 2: also with my body as well, and like being more
Speaker 2: you know, positive in terms of my body.
Speaker 3: That makes sense, that's great.
Speaker 2: Cycles sinking, cycle sinking. Yeah, So within your cycle, you
Speaker 2: have four phases. There's the liteal phase and I forget
Speaker 2: the rest. There's one that's ovulating, there's one that's your spirit,
Speaker 2: and then there's one more. And so with every phase
Speaker 2: there's like certain things you should be eating. There are
Speaker 2: follicular phase, thank you Easton, So there are certain things
Speaker 2: you should be eating, certain ways you should be working out,
Speaker 2: or like you know, being easy on your body. And
Speaker 2: it's good to understand because sometimes I'm like I'm angry
Speaker 2: right now or why am I feeling sad? And so
Speaker 2: cycle sinking just really helps you understand your body a
Speaker 2: lot better. And there's you know, people who talk about
Speaker 2: this and do a much better job of it. But
Speaker 2: it has been interesting and really helpful so far.
Speaker 3: Nice. That's cool.
Speaker 1: How did you know that?
Speaker 5: It's a very quick response. There's a podcast I work
Speaker 5: on called scrubbing in with Cotillon tin you're at and
Speaker 5: tiny's very into cycle sinking. I know a lot about
Speaker 5: cycle sinking.
Speaker 1: Got it, That's what I telling more than me nice
Speaker 1: because I felt like it really has been there for
Speaker 1: a second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 4: Also feel for not knowing about the sinking side I've got.
Speaker 4: I've got a potentially TMI question, Caitlyn. I feel free
Speaker 4: to just brush this off. Do you know, because you
Speaker 4: can kind of plan when your cycle is going to
Speaker 4: be every month, do you know where in the cycle
Speaker 4: you'll be for our wedding weekend?
Speaker 2: Yes, it keeps changing and it's pretty upsetting. So I
Speaker 2: was supposed to be ovulating on the day.
Speaker 5: Of our wedding. Let's see around now now I think.
Speaker 2: I think now I'm supposed to be pmssing on the
Speaker 2: day of our wedding. Wait, let's see. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: yeap pmssing.
Speaker 1: No, just gonna say no, bro.
Speaker 5: But uh, yeah, it keeps changing. So we'll see.
Speaker 4: My brother and his wife conceived on the day of
Speaker 4: their wedding, so you know, we might. I guess we
Speaker 4: can't fall on those footsteps, which is unfortunate, but it.
Speaker 3: Is what it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably for the best.
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll have a wedding day miracle.
Speaker 6: Who knows.
Speaker 1: I bet a lot of married couples I would say
Speaker 1: more than fifty percent more often than not do not
Speaker 1: have sex on their wedding night because.
Speaker 3: It's just so like tiring and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just talking to my friend about this.
Speaker 2: She said they got married and then took photos and
Speaker 2: then in between I guess the reception while people were
Speaker 2: at cocktail hour right after, She's like, let's just have
Speaker 2: sex because I know we're not going to have it
Speaker 2: after the wedding. So they just went in the room,
Speaker 2: had sex, and then came out and started partying.
Speaker 3: Nice, let's do that.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, man. Yeah, I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: feel I guess I would be fine. Right, you just
Speaker 1: go you have sex, but then you're like, Grandma, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming. You know, it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: oh man, this is tm I. But you guys ever
Speaker 1: get like like post guilt, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You're like, I can't let anybody see it, like, you know,
Speaker 1: like see us right afterwards. I need like a minute
Speaker 1: to just be like, oh, okay, no, we're fine, No.
Speaker 3: No way.
Speaker 4: When I walk out with my shoulders held high, walking
Speaker 4: out like a freaking like a batle evil, and no
Speaker 4: one knows why either, you know, And that's how I
Speaker 4: like it too.
Speaker 3: I don't want anyone to know what's going on.
Speaker 4: I just want them to see my confidence stretch that
Speaker 4: I'm that I'm having so.
Speaker 1: But you know, and that's all that matters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's all that matters.
Speaker 4: I can say, maybe we should do it before the ceremony,
Speaker 4: but that would be that'd be bad because we have.
Speaker 5: To wait the first look it's for sex.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yea, yeah exactly, but that'd be bad
Speaker 4: because we have to wait until we're married to even
Speaker 4: engage in that type of action.
Speaker 1: Obviously, yah, of course.
Speaker 2: But you know what's hard is We've been to weddings
Speaker 2: where you know, either the groom and the bride or
Speaker 2: one or the other is saving themselves for marriage. And
Speaker 2: I've talked to people afterwards, like the bride afterwards, and
Speaker 2: she's like, it's so awkward because so many people are
Speaker 2: talking about it at the wedding and like then everyone
Speaker 2: knows like that night you're gonna have sex for the
Speaker 2: first time, and it's just like it feels so invasive,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: M Yeah, I think before our wedding, Calen, we should
Speaker 4: go through a process to be born again virgins.
Speaker 3: I wonder what that would look.
Speaker 4: Like, like, what does our virginity mm hmm, what kind
Speaker 4: of hoops we'd have to jump through in order to
Speaker 4: like get that confirmed, you know, with the church or
Speaker 4: whoever it might be. But like that'd be nice to
Speaker 4: go into our wedding both pure.
Speaker 3: Both pure.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't like it because you hate church, so
Speaker 5: that would never happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'll still do it, you know. I think
Speaker 4: it'd be fun fun to say we both lost our virginity.
Speaker 3: On our wedding night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll do it for the podcast.
Speaker 3: You don't really cont that, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I wonder how long you have to not have sex
Speaker 1: for in order to be considered a born again virgin?
Speaker 5: You know, I think it's I think.
Speaker 2: It's just like faith wise, you just like maybe go,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm probably making this up. Go to your
Speaker 2: pastor and you do a lot of work in like
Speaker 2: months of like prayer and stuff, and then I don't know,
Speaker 2: but that sounds like it's right.
Speaker 1: Can it be like done overnight? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You guys should the day before, you know, just be like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go get this over with, so tomorrow
Speaker 1: we can be born.
Speaker 4: Again, like an online certificate or something, just like a
Speaker 4: quick expedited.
Speaker 3: Version where I just thought a form. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: there's everything for that these days.
Speaker 4: If I want to be ordained, all I have to
Speaker 4: do is jump online real quick and fill out a
Speaker 4: survey or whatever.
Speaker 3: There's got to be a way to do it for
Speaker 3: born again virgin too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's probably all on the same website. You
Speaker 1: can get ordained, you can get groupons for skiing, and
Speaker 1: you can get a certificate to be a born again virgin.
Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, I think we should explore it. We need
Speaker 3: to explore it. But I think we've offended enough people
Speaker 3: as it is. Maybe we should move onto something else.
Speaker 6: Nah.
Speaker 1: Never, Oh I.
Speaker 3: Almost died the other day. I can talk about that
Speaker 3: real quick.
Speaker 1: How'd you almost die?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I almost fell off a mountain. I sent Kaylen
Speaker 3: a video of it.
Speaker 4: It was pretty, Uh, it's pretty It's kind of hard
Speaker 4: to see in the video of exactly what happens, but
Speaker 4: I was walking down like this super narrow ridge really
Speaker 4: high up off the It was like a two thousand
Speaker 4: foot ridge that's like maybe two feet wide, and I
Speaker 4: like stepped down and I slipped, And if I slipped
Speaker 4: and fell, I would have fallen two thousand feet and died.
Speaker 4: But I caught myself really quick and I got it
Speaker 4: all on video, which might have helped. It might have
Speaker 4: been the reason why I slipped, but I don't think so,
Speaker 4: because it was in my hands and it was my
Speaker 4: feet obviously that slipped. But you can like see my
Speaker 4: foot like sputter out and then I like catched myself
Speaker 4: on the rock at the last second, and it.
Speaker 3: Was pretty terrifying. And then I had the video.
Speaker 4: So I was like, I probably shouldn't send this to Kaylin,
Speaker 4: But in hindsight, since I survived, like it's pretty funny.
Speaker 4: So I did, And yeah, that was my experience almost dying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been funny if Kaylen witnessed your
Speaker 1: death on video and she got it sent to you,
Speaker 1: you know, sent to her.
Speaker 4: I gotta say, though, like, you know, if you are
Speaker 4: going to almost die, it's pretty cool to have it
Speaker 4: on camera. Like it's of all the things to have
Speaker 4: on camera, that's a cool thing they have on camera.
Speaker 4: So when it happened.
Speaker 3: I like, I wasn't scared, and I wasn't like, oh
Speaker 3: that was a close one. I was in my head.
Speaker 3: I was like, thank god, I was recording.
Speaker 1: How many close calls have you had.
Speaker 3: Hiking wa is not.
Speaker 4: Really any Like that was probably the biggest one, the
Speaker 4: one like that was the biggest one, where like it
Speaker 4: was pretty obvious I was like a couple of inches
Speaker 4: away from death, whereas maybe before there have been close calls,
Speaker 4: but it hasn't been so obvious, you know, like I
Speaker 4: don't I don't know specific examples, but like that one
Speaker 4: was like if I if I continued to fall just
Speaker 4: a little bit more, I would have been done.
Speaker 3: So so that was that was quite an experience.
Speaker 1: Is there ever a point where he would I have
Speaker 1: such a close call where you would say, listen, you
Speaker 1: need to stop, you can't do this anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we talked about this, like his fourteen ers specifically,
Speaker 2: and it has been causing me a lot of anxiety,
Speaker 2: just this one in particular, these three, because his friend,
Speaker 2: who was fearless, said it was the scariest one, like
Speaker 2: the most dangerous one. He wasn't scared the whole time
Speaker 2: on this fourteen or expedition until this one, So I
Speaker 2: wasn't sleeping for like three days leading up to it,
Speaker 2: and while you were climbing. I didn't tell you this
Speaker 2: because I don't like to tell him when I'm anxious,
Speaker 2: to like put that anxiety on him when he's already
Speaker 2: doing like really scary stuff. But like it's like one
Speaker 2: hundred and ten degrees in Vegas, and I was like shaking,
Speaker 2: like shivering like it had such bad anxiety, and.
Speaker 5: I was like, is he alive?
Speaker 3: Is he alive?
Speaker 2: I'm like checking stories of the friends that he's with.
Speaker 2: He's not texting me back, his satellite phone's not texting
Speaker 2: me back like nothing, and I'm like the last time
Speaker 2: his friend posted was two hours ago and then he
Speaker 2: texted me like twenty minutes later. But it causes me
Speaker 2: so much anxiety. And that one was definitely the worst one.
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't tell him to stop. You know, like,
Speaker 2: when we have kids, I think it's it's important to
Speaker 2: like be a lot safer. You know, I want you
Speaker 2: to live for me, But when we have kids, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I want our kids to have a father.
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't really say like stop, this is too scary,
Speaker 2: but when we have kids, maybe just like be a
Speaker 2: little safer. But the thing, don't do the scary roots
Speaker 2: because Dean was doing the scary roots he had the
Speaker 2: option to do when that's easier, and he's going out
Speaker 2: of his way to do something that's harder.
Speaker 4: Yeah, why do the scary roots, bro, Because it's way more,
Speaker 4: it's way more, it feels more accomplishing, I guess, and
Speaker 4: it's more fun.
Speaker 3: But the thing is like, I don't want to die.
Speaker 3: I'm not ready to die.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, yeah, I don't want you to be
Speaker 4: a widow either, But the thing like, I want to
Speaker 4: be alive more than I don't want you to be
Speaker 4: a widow. So I'm still fighting for my own self preservation.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to personfully go kill myself, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 5: Well, no, I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you meant you wanted like the feeling
Speaker 1: of being alive was more than Calvin being a widow.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, bro, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: No, el, I really feel like I'm not I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to die.
Speaker 4: I have no interest in dying, So like that supersedes
Speaker 4: any situation where like I'm not going to put myself
Speaker 4: in a situation where I'm like, oh, I could probably
Speaker 4: die here. It's all calculated in my head for better
Speaker 4: for worse. I guess where I'm like, oh, I can
Speaker 4: definitely do this, but like you know, accidents do happen,
Speaker 4: of course, but same as accidents happen on the road
Speaker 4: where people get into the car crashes and die and
Speaker 4: it's very sad, it's no different than this. It's all
Speaker 4: you know, probability and all that kind of stuff where
Speaker 4: it's like you could probably, I could probably do this
Speaker 4: and be fine, and I'm going to go and do
Speaker 4: it and prove it to myself that I can.
Speaker 3: That's basically what it is.
Speaker 4: But that was the moment that where where I almost tripped, Yeah,
Speaker 4: where I was scared and Klen's kind of right. I
Speaker 4: was taking like more challenging roots up. I didn't wear
Speaker 4: a helmet on this route the other day, and there's
Speaker 4: like this big, long steep gully with a bunch of
Speaker 4: loose rock in it, and I was with a group
Speaker 4: of three other people and I was like, well, I
Speaker 4: don't want to be in the gully with three other
Speaker 4: people because they could kick rocks.
Speaker 3: And hit me on the head, so I took I
Speaker 3: just kind of like winged it.
Speaker 4: I was like, this looks like a good route, and
Speaker 4: I followed this ridge line all like two mile, well
Speaker 4: like a mile and a half up to the summit,
Speaker 4: and it was We started at like four am, so
Speaker 4: it was super dark, and I got to this like
Speaker 4: crazy like rock spire on the ridge and I was
Speaker 4: like tried to climb up. It got really freaking scared,
Speaker 4: climbed down, and then I was like yelling to my
Speaker 4: friends who were half a mile away.
Speaker 3: I was like, I think I have to turn around.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do, Like I'm pretty freaked
Speaker 4: out right now. And then I like started looking at
Speaker 4: it again and I was like I can do it.
Speaker 4: I just have to freaking commit and get over it.
Speaker 4: And then once I'm there and then I can figure
Speaker 4: out what to do next. And it was like, like
Speaker 4: I said, it was full dark out and so I
Speaker 4: was like shriving my head lamp on it trying to
Speaker 4: find a solution.
Speaker 3: The rock is like super loose, so I get to the.
Speaker 4: Top of it and then I get to the ridge
Speaker 4: and everything went well. But then afterwards I was like
Speaker 4: looking online to see if anyone else had done this,
Speaker 4: you know, makeshift route that I had done, and it
Speaker 4: turns out like ten people have done it, and it's.
Speaker 3: Like fifth class.
Speaker 4: Yes, like five six climbing, which I can climb five
Speaker 4: six super easily. But normally you're like on a rope
Speaker 4: and you're protected and stuff, and it's daytime and you know,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of other things kind of working in
Speaker 4: your favor.
Speaker 3: But this time I was like, I'm just gonna wing it.
Speaker 3: So Kalin's right, I do die.
Speaker 4: I do kind of make things a little more difficult
Speaker 4: for myself, sometimes intentionally because it's more fun and I
Speaker 4: don't think I'm going to die and it's more of
Speaker 4: an accomplishment at the end of the day.
Speaker 5: M interesting.
Speaker 1: Is there a difference between route and root? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what it is though. I just
Speaker 3: say I say which every one I'm feeling in the moment, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Agree, agreee. What do I say?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 3: I say root? What do you say round?
Speaker 1: You say root?
Speaker 3: I say yeah, I say route.
Speaker 1: It depends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I say I I don't like that's I
Speaker 5: think I say both.
Speaker 1: I definitely say both. It's like, oh, that's the route
Speaker 1: that's the route over there.
Speaker 4: I bet I was like, oh this, I bet you,
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right, route one forty six sounds I bet you.
Speaker 4: Route is more or proper like root could sound like
Speaker 4: the root of like a plant, but route it's pretty
Speaker 4: obviously like they're they're out, you know.
Speaker 1: So Easton says, I think root can be a verb
Speaker 1: and route is always a noun.
Speaker 3: Neither.
Speaker 1: Wait, that's how you spelled right.
Speaker 3: Anyway?
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely that ro O U t e is how
Speaker 1: you spelled both. But the way to pronounce it, you
Speaker 1: got to read it and pronounce it the right way.
Speaker 4: He's spelling it phonetically for us, it's a phonetic explanation, yeah,
Speaker 4: because if he spelt it both the same way, then
Speaker 4: we would have no idea which way he was he
Speaker 4: was going.
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