1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Look may oh, I see you, my own my bow 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: and look over there is that culture. Yes, goodness, lost. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: Ding Dong lost in tactile with me right now, get tactile. 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Here we are Bowen Yang. It's a very special episode. 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Why is that because ten. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: Years ago this week we started this podcast. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: That's crazy feels silly to me. Ten years well, I 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: mean we're not helping with this whole like twenty sixteen 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: nostalgia thing going on right now. 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of that. 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna ask like, where were you 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: ten years ago? But now we literally can't. 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: We were in our friends with a mattress in the 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: window to keep out the sound. 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: That was our that was our soundproofing at the time. 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: And we are now ten years later sitting here with 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: our guests. 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Look at that, Look at God. 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: And I gotta say, look at God because she's with 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 2: us in the room. I don't know that we could 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: have booked a better guest for our ten year anniversary 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: a podcast about pop culture. Right, you think that the 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: ten year is gonna happen, we probably should get a 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: full blow and pop culture icon in here. 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I did my thing of like I'm gonna 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: watch I'm gonna watch a project. I'm gonna go back 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: and revisit the classics, and it's the it's the sort 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: of decision paralysis thing that happens with I think our guests, 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: where I'm sure she's used to this by now, where 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: everyone's like, I loved you and uh and then like 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: they must like sort of short circuit and then liked. 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: So I picked. I was very happy with to Die 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: For and uh the others which I and then I 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: watched the Criterion Collection featurette where there's something I want 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: to ask you. She mentioned something that I want to 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: ask her about, which is that she almost quit because 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: she was like, I can't do this. This is a 38 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: woman who is awf oulder her children. Not a spoiler alert, 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, Well, well it's the others. 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: If you're seeing the others, if you know, you know. 41 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: I went for something old, something new. 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: I went for final final two episodes of Big Little 44 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 2: Eyes season one, perfect, and I went for Eyes Wide Shut, 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: which I had never seen. And boy are there questions 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: as a result of this list of projects, But there 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: are approximately a million rolls that our guest has been 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: incredible in, just as an actress as a producer, I mean, 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 2: fashion icon, et cetera. Arguably best performance is the Chanelle 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: number five commercial, Oh which, yes, this is the podcast 51 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: that's going to bring it up. 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: Absolutely our ten. 53 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: Year anniversary special and our guest is the one. The only. 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: It was so had to stay quiet through that. 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: You stayed very stoke. 56 00:02:58,840 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: Do you see me? 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: You take direction? 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: I was like, you told me to shut up? 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: But then when we said number five commercial, you did? 60 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: You did jump up? 61 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: Bas just texted me, did he Literally you must have 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: been telepathically picking something. 63 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: We're just talking about it. 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: We were just talking about because my Basie. 65 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: Wonderful. 66 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: What is his name for me is dear one? 67 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: Dear one? Has that been for the beginning? 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: Dear one, dear one? So well again, same number of 69 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: syllables as Nicole, but. 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: Somehow deal one is nice. 71 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: I can say he has a nickname for me because 72 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: I met him at an event and his nickname for 73 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: me is I kid you not you bitch, because it's 74 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: how he thinks he's going to book the podcast. He 75 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: wants to come on the podcast. 76 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: Of course. 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: He is. He's because he sent me the loveliest email 78 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: after r on a Grande and I did this Mulan 79 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: Rouge sketch and you go, no, no, but it was 80 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: it was kind of the best thing. The best outcome 81 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: possible was to like be able to be in conversation 82 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: with him anyway, and he's. 83 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: He's with it. I mean, all you want to do 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: is be the center of his universe. Yeah, when you 85 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: drop from that spot, it's very painful. 86 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, when you're in his orbit, it's something else. Yeah, 87 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I have to say I think mulin 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: Rouge was like we asked that question a lot, like 89 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: what was the culture that made you say? Culture was 90 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: for you? And Mulan Rouge came out in two thousand, 91 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: so it was just around the time when we were 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: starting to like be like I'm going to watch a 93 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: movie that my parents don't know I'm going to watch, 94 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: and my mother would see the trailer from Mulan Rouge 95 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: and she would say, that looks racy. That looks very racy. 96 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 2: And I was like, I went into fifth grade and 97 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: I told my teacher, my mom says, Mulan Rouge looks racy. 98 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: And then she was like, well, you know it might 99 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: be a little racy. 100 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's sort of about what it's about. But then you. 101 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: Watch it to a courtisan. 102 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, courison and consumption, that's right, the consumption racy topics. 103 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: The greatest consumption death put on Cellu Lloyd. I think, 104 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: what can we talk about it? Okay? And even people 105 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: on the team are like, like gagged, just the consumption. 106 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 3: Of it all. And then I get carried though in feathers. 107 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: Pink feathers, come on, Yes, I get to fly on 108 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: a trapeze in sequence with men underneath me with top hats. 109 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: Pretty good, badass, badass. 110 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: And then I get to die and be held by 111 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: Ewan McGregor singing to me. And then but I also 112 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: get to get carried in pink feathers. 113 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Right, pink feathers seem to be. 114 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: Oh, that's really lovely. 115 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: A lot of fulfillment there. 116 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just so exquisite. 117 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: And also, like the soundtrack that was birthed, I think 118 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: that that doesn't get enough respect to put on its 119 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: name because all bangers on that soundtrack. 120 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's he's just a music whiz, yes, So, 121 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: I mean bas is classically built in terms of all 122 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: his knowledge and the way in which he's been trained 123 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: and then he talked about culture and pop culture. Then 124 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: he's able to enter the zeitgeist though, but he's got 125 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: all his education and classical training kind of the best 126 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: of the best. Right else, do we want to talk 127 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: about you? Because he throw someone at me and. 128 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: I'll answer, Nicole Kidman, how about that? Because I feel 129 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: like me I'm boring. Come on. The reason why I 130 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: think the reason why you've had this incredibly illustrious career 131 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: is because random career. 132 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: It's also rad. 133 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: But random in the best way. Like I love that 134 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: we never know we're working to get from you. 135 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 3: It is random. 136 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: Scarpett and March eleventh on Prime Today. 137 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: I think by binge, I know you're not meant to 138 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: binge things, but binge. 139 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: You think it's a binger. 140 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: I think this is a binger. If you like binging, 141 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: love I like binging. It comes you know it's not healthy, 142 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: but I love it. 143 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, all one. 144 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: Huh yeah, just watch it? Okay, watch it and watch 145 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: it and watch it and watch it and watch it 146 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: and done. 147 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: Perfect couple. 148 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: I binged. 149 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: Netflix made that easy. 150 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: Right, Okay? Well, hopefully this makes Jamie Lee and I. 151 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Jane Lee Bobby kind of and he just he is Crime, 152 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Dela Crime, and then Simon Baker. 153 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: And you and everyone and everyone else. 154 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: Well, he was famously he holds a place in gay 155 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: culture because he was Will's boyfriend on Will and Grace. Yeah. Yes, 156 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: he was like the tough talking I think he was 157 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: a firefighter, right or was he a cop? 158 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: He was? What? Yeah, yeah, he's not at all. 159 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: No, right, Look, some people some people have. 160 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: Burn is very lucky. 161 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: She's the best. We were watching clips of her and 162 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: Kristen wigg going back and forth in an outtake real 163 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: and Bridesmaids right before you walked in. 164 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: I was just talking about that. That is my daughter 165 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: and I. We watch Bridesmaids when we're feeling down. Whenever 166 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: we need a lift, we watch it. We recite it, 167 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: we acted out and we do that in the kitchen, 168 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: and that is our go to saving. That's our savior 169 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: films film. Yeah, to pull us out of a funk. 170 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: Of course, there's an underappreciated. That's a new vocal stem 171 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: for me, which is a Rosebyurne line in that which 172 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: is after like the toast off, Roseburn goes dessert, wine 173 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: is out. You want to talk about It's such a 174 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: funny little like evening it's dirt. 175 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: There's also we were blown by, like the patronizing way 176 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: she looks at Kristin Wig whenever she's trying to say 177 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: like an accomplishment of hers just like. 178 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: Wow, been like wow, you're a train wreck. Get the hook, Get. 179 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: The hook exactly perfect. Oh but I just okay, Yeah, 180 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna, I was gonna, I was gonna pay 181 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: you the compliment, and then I was gonna transition to 182 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: take it. Do you get this? Do people say that 183 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: you don't do you receive a compliment? Well, I don't know. 184 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: I'm trying to. It's not an Australian attribute like we 185 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: always have to. Yeah, humility is very important, but also 186 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: it's just hard to take compliments because the last thing 187 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: you want is to be seen as. 188 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: Bigheaded, right right, right, of course you have. 189 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: To always come in under But I'm learning to take 190 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: the strokes because it feels good. I mean, you hard 191 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: give me something. 192 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: From We do this too much, some might say is 193 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: that we fond too much, which we will keep to 194 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: a minimum. But I think the reason why, because you're 195 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: talking about baths being so plugged into the culture, I 196 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: feel like you have that same sense too of just no. 197 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: When something is a worthwhile, not even worthwhile, it's just 198 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: a risk period, right. I feel like this randomness that 199 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about is just risk. 200 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: And it's curiosity, Okay, it's desire, it's and it's always 201 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: just being willing to try things and jump off the cliff. 202 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 3: That would be the way in which I approach things. 203 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: But I want to have fun. 204 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 205 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: I grew up in a family that had a slight 206 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 3: bohemian quality to it, but it was very intellectual family. 207 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: So there was I was taken to see all sorts 208 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: of theater and opera and art. I was raised on culture, 209 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: and my mother loved fashion. My grandmother could sew and 210 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: knit and embroider, and they played piano and spoke French 211 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: and all those things that you go, oh, okay, teach me. 212 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: But they were socially conscious and sort of just an 213 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: interesting group of people to have been born into yeah, 214 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: and to be launched into the world by. 215 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: So things that were fascinating were around you. 216 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: There weren't boundaries. There were in terms of sometimes my 217 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: mother would have a strict moral code and at other 218 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: times you'd be like huh. But there was a huge 219 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot of judgment there was. The barriers 220 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: were taken away and you could express all sorts of 221 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: thoughts and ideas in terms of philosophy or secrets. And 222 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: some of my greatest moments were curled up in my 223 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 3: mom's bed, sort of us both sharing human just humanness 224 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: and ideas. And I nursed her through cancer, and so 225 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: I saw all of that. I saw her losing her hair. 226 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: I saw a fifty year marriage and the way that 227 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: unfurled as it went along with truth and honesty. Kind 228 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: of interesting, right, And she gave me insight into what 229 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: it was to be just to be alive. Yeah, and 230 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: that and I could ask her anything, and my dad 231 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: as well. So that's a really good basis to start 232 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: life from, right. 233 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: But I'm just sorry to get serious. 234 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: It is funny, no, but literally, like sometimes I watch 235 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: your movies and I think when she got the script 236 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: for this, like there's no way to really see it. 237 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: Like Mulan Rouge, for example, Like the whole first half 238 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: hour of Mulin Rouge, it moves so fast and it 239 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: is so crazy, like the scene where you're changing under 240 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: then in the tent with Jim Broadbent and you're sort 241 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: of like trying on your different personas and stuff. It's 242 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: got to be impossible to see. But I guess then 243 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: for you, that's just like thinking and trusting of the director, 244 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: because I feel like that drives you a lot, right director. 245 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: And because he and Catherine Martin, the two of them, 246 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: they had a beautiful, big house that they would create 247 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: in and that's where we would rehearse. And there was 248 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: very much of a human quality to the way they 249 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: they create their art. And so when you're brought into that, 250 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 3: you spent six weeks workshopping. But prior to that, I'd 251 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 3: done a photoshoot for Vogue with them, and I'd seen 252 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: their work growing up in Australia and watched them morph 253 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: into who they were, and there were just like these 254 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: crazy talented I mean, bas was an actor and a 255 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: really good actor. I bet his Winter Winter of Our 256 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: Dreams with Judy Davis and he's fantastic in it. He 257 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: plays a junkie. Oh wow, yeah, so there's a tidbit 258 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: for you. Yeah, go find out Winter. 259 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: What is it? 260 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: Winter of Our dream Judy. 261 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: Davis one of the the best? 262 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god. So yeah. And then CM and Bez 263 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: went to Naida, which is our national Institute of Dramatic Arts. 264 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm getting this bohemian sort of No, no, no, 265 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: there's a bohemian element here to the way that you 266 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: were raised. And I think also, I'm just going to 267 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: pick up on the opera piece opera, because I think 268 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: that I'm going to like have those two heloses come 269 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: together in terms of like it describing like the Nicole 270 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: kidman of which is like it's operatic, but it is 271 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: also so like artfully diverse for lack of a better term, right, 272 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: because it's like I think in you talking about the others, 273 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: it's like you were like, this is media, this is yeah, 274 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: this is classic Greek Euripides, but it's also it's this 275 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: operatic kind of thing. But I think that applies to 276 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: a lot of your roles. 277 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Agree, I well, I I think what opera gives 278 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: you is it gives you pathos and it gives you 279 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: big emotion. And because I was taken to the opera 280 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: all the time, and I would sit there with my 281 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: dad and my mom and we would cry, I mean, 282 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: and my mother would explain because she could speak Italian, 283 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: she could speak French, so she would explain the stories 284 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: and the stories I mean They're fantastic in the same 285 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: way that Shakespeare the Greeks. And I grew up reading 286 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: Russian literature. I was obsessed with the Russians. 287 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: Really, yes, how did you come to be obsessed with that? 288 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: Just because I had one of those lists of the 289 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: hundred books you're meant to read? Oh, okay, But I 290 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: started on Dostoyevsky, and then I went, oh, hold on, 291 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: and then I just kept going on Dostoyevsky, and then 292 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: I moved over to Tolstoy, and then before you know it, 293 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with the Russians. And I went to Saint 294 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: Petersburg actually and saw all of the places that Tolstoi 295 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: had built war and peace around, and people pointed out where, 296 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: you know, Andre all of it, and I was like, what, 297 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: So that was kind of the beginning of my artistic 298 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: basis is the Russians. And then I moved over into 299 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: the Bronzes, of course, which give you the yearning. 300 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: Yes, it certainly does. 301 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: I'm on a More Nights, yes, and I loved it. 302 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: I loved it. And but I've read Wuthering Heights six times, right, 303 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: and I love teeth Cliff. Yeah, so I just you know, 304 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: and that state of yearning that the Bronzes existed in 305 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: that probably was my stata as a teenager and probably 306 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: continues on now. It's one of the most it's the 307 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: one of the most underrated states have been. 308 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: Year I would agree, because it is so it's so painful, 309 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: like when you're in it, but then you can only 310 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: be in it. First, tell me if you think this 311 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: is true, Like, I'll never yearn like I did when 312 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: I was like fifteen to twenty five. Like, and you 313 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: don't realize that you're not going to feel that feeling 314 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: as intensely anymore. 315 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: Oh I feel it? 316 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: Really? 317 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: I still yeah, you still do. 318 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to study yearning. 319 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: Now you are. 320 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: And it can be towards anything or anyone, Okay. 321 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: But it keeps you alive, keeps you moving forward. 322 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I got a yearn again. 323 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, yeah, let's bring back the YEARN. 324 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 2: I know I'm trying to feel like I guess I 325 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: was specifically thinking about it in terms of like the 326 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: romantick desire, you know what I'm saying, especially being closet. 327 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it tingles, I know, come on, chivery delicious. 328 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: I had a line once in this film called floating 329 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: where I play a small role. But I just remember 330 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: that the description of being Hivy delicious chivery delicious. 331 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: Oh that's really good, Chivy Delicious title of app. That's 332 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: actual the title of this episode. 333 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: I shivery deliver. 334 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: It's become and I couldn't think of anything better. 335 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: Thru Wait. 336 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: On eBay, every find. 337 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: Has a story, Like if you're looking for a vintage 338 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: band tea, not just at. 339 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: The band tea from the last shell your favorite band 340 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: ever played. 341 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: If you wore it everywhere, but then your girlfriend or 342 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: boyfriend or BFF started wearing it. 343 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 2: Which was cute until they dumped you or unfriended you 344 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: and took it with. 345 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: Them, which was not so cute. 346 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: Anyway, Now you're on eBay. 347 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: And there it is, same tea from the same tour, 348 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: still living in your memory. You rent free forever. 349 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: See the things you love have a way of finding 350 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: their way back to you. 351 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: But eBay isn't just forgetting whatever your X or XBFF 352 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: stole back. 353 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: It's also for that rare championship foul ball you caught 354 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: then heroically gave to the kid next to you. 355 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: And where else are you going to find your first car? 356 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: The one you wish you never sold, but now finally 357 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 2: get the chance to take back home. 358 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: For a good time. 359 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: Shop eBay from millions of fines, each with a. 360 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: Story eBay Things People Love. 361 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: Do you have like a favorite line of dialogue you've said? 362 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 3: I have? I mean, I've worked with the greatest writer 363 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: you true, I think. I think the hours gave me. Yeah, 364 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 3: when you're David Hare wrote just just exquisite dialogue inspired 365 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: by Virginia Wolf from Michael Cunningham and then directed by 366 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: Stephen Daldry. But that that that screenplay was was just 367 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: beautiful and to be able to do it justice that 368 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: that monologue in the hours of oh yeah, that was 369 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: like too and we rigorously worked that. And I have 370 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: to call out the praises of Stephen Delane in that 371 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 3: because that's so much what acting is. There's two of 372 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 3: you in that scene. He love her does he wants 373 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: to take her and and save her in a way 374 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: from herself, but she says no, it's the right of 375 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 3: every human being to choose. I get to choose my destiny. 376 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: I get to choose, and I really believe in that. 377 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: Will you direct because you you speak like a director? 378 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, because I feel like you're like really 379 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: working in like the obviously actress but like, but what 380 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying is, like you, I think would be an 381 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: actor's dream as a director, because no one understands it 382 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: better than you. 383 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: Well, I I've always I mean, you never say never 384 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: to anything, because whenever I do that, that's that's a disaster. 385 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 3: And then you go, oh, okay, well I changed my mind. Yeah, 386 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: my prerogative. But I love being an actor. Yeah, I 387 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: actually love being in the hands of a great director 388 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: and a great writer, and I love being there to contribute. 389 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: But to lead it that's fair difficult. That's decision making 390 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 3: that is unfaltering in your vision, whereas I see all 391 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 3: all ways. So I need, okay, this is what we're doing. 392 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: You want to be amenable to all kinds of apps. 393 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: I'm interested. I'm just interested. That's beautiful, and so I 394 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: hope I always shay interested. I love asking questions more 395 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: than having questions asked. 396 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have a question then, just because I 397 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: have to tell you again, just looping back to those 398 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: things that you remember from pivotal moments in your life, 399 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 2: I think that every every queer person our age probably 400 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: remembers walking into a Blockbuster, and which was the video 401 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: rental store where you can rent VHS's, and walking over 402 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: to the Batman aisle and seeing Doctor Chase Meridian on 403 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: the cover of the Batman Forever VHS the Veronica Lake hair. 404 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: I found out something about myself seeing that picture of 405 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: you on there. I was like, I need to know everything. 406 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: And I rented it again and again and again, and 407 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: I watched it and that movie, I have to say, 408 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: and Batman and Robin Camp underrated Camp Classics masterpieces. 409 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: Joe Schumacher, Yes, that was Yeah, we created her together, 410 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: that hair, everything, and he was like, here she is, 411 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: here's doctor Chase. 412 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he probably felt the same way we did. 413 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: Walk into the Blackbuster. 414 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: When you walking was I'm not pretty enough to come on? Truly, 415 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: I really felt when I was doing that that I 416 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: was not pretty enough? 417 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: What was the idea? What were you trying to? Were 418 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: you training Ronica? 419 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: But I mean also just just that sort of the dream, 420 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: the dream blonde, right, And I did not feel like that. 421 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: I've never felt like that. So but that's the beauty 422 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: of acting is you can pretend to create become right, yes, 423 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: which is what we love. Yeah, you can put on 424 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: a wig. You can suddenly put on red lipstick, and 425 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: you can dress differently and put heels on, and suddenly 426 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: you are kind of you would love to be and 427 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 3: then it all comes off again in your back. But 428 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: it's so great being able to step into that. I mean, 429 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: the same was so many different characters. But a lot 430 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 3: of people also cite the Channel number five commercials, so 431 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: they always say to me, was I'll. 432 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 4: Never I must have been the only person in the 433 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: world who didn't know who she was. 434 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: It was on repeat. It's my favorite movie. Now Number 435 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 2: five commercial was starring you and Rodrigo Santoro, directed by 436 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: Baz Luhrman. Here's my film. 437 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: And and that pink. 438 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: Dress, everything about. 439 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: It running down the street. But that's fat, that's the's 440 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: dreams and that CM too, and they can just create that. 441 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: That's why the pink feathers, the pink. 442 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: Dress I love. 443 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: So much. 444 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: It is the best, and it was it's like. 445 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: But no one had ever done that sort of film. 446 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: I remember Carl Laga felt being like, I love this. 447 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: He gave the thumbs up to it, which was a 448 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: huge thing for Carl who was just like she personified 449 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: right of course, And and it was like, okay, but 450 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: they spent an enormous amount of money on that. Yeah 451 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: they didn't. They didn't go cheap, But why go cheap 452 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: when you don't have to and you can create something iconically. 453 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: That we remember it. 454 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 3: I'm so glad they didn't skim. 455 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 2: No, I love like a big ask commercial that at 456 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: the last second you find out it was about something 457 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: that had nothing to do with this story. 458 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: It's perfect. Like you don't like it's how it should be. 459 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: It's because at that point it's like you're not being 460 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: duped into buying something. You're just in the world. 461 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: You've already bought it. 462 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: You've already bought it because you're in the world of 463 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, but can I ask on the acting now, 464 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: on this love of acting? I was watching this feature 465 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: this featurette on the others for the Criteria collection, which was, uh, yeah, 466 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: it entered that a couple of years ago, but congrats huge. 467 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: But you were saying that you almost said no. 468 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: And I said yes and then I said no, but 469 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: that you also that this. 470 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: Is your usual process, that you kind of said that 471 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: this is like something that happens not a lot. 472 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: But I try not to do it now because it's 473 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: incredibly frustrating and irritating for people. 474 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 2: But it's super the line producer for everybody, Like. 475 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: What but forget other people? It's like if because I 476 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: think you were acknowledging it. It's part of your process, right, 477 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: like oh for anything that is kind of maybe scaring 478 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: you a little bit, like that is part of how 479 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: you approach it. Like you're saying you don't do it 480 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: anymore now, but like what was? 481 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 3: No, I still do it? 482 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: Okay, great, I just do it less. Yeah. 483 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: Step to healing is awareness. Yes, so I'm on the road. 484 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: You're on the road. Can you tell the like do 485 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: you understand that now as a thing of like this 486 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: is just something about going through it? 487 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: Well, that particularly was I was making Molin rouge when 488 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: I agreed to do it. So I was steen when 489 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: I read Grace, which is you know, the others, the 490 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: character and the others. So I had not delved psychologically 491 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 3: into her because I'd accepted in a different state of 492 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 3: being that being said, got it. I then arrive over 493 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: there and I'm like, oh my god, I've got to 494 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: now start prepping this woman who who kills her children? Yes, no, 495 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to do that. I'm like, I don't 496 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: want to do this. I do not want to kill 497 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: the children. So then you go back to is it 498 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: killing the children or is it saving the children? So 499 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: as soon as I could shift into oh, I'm saving 500 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: the children, even though that is so insane and crazy, 501 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: it was choosing to save them from terrible pain, and 502 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 3: then I could motivate into the role. Does that make sense? 503 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: It makes sense? And was that something you found with 504 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: Alijndro or is that something? 505 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: And with the acting coach I work with and the 506 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 3: way in which my whole just my nervous system, and 507 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: the way in which I approach something. I have to 508 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: feel it. If I don't feel it, I'm going to 509 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: be faking it and then I'm no good. So I 510 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 3: have to somehow find this weird state of being that 511 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 3: keeps it real even though I'm still existing in life 512 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 3: with my feet on the ground. 513 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: But your stomach there you get from it comes from. 514 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 3: The body work. 515 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 516 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: Emotians are in your body, So where do you find them? Yeah? 517 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: That's really I guess that's a really good thing to 518 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: remember too, is if your body is if your body 519 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 2: is telling your brain something that probably means more than 520 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: you know. 521 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 3: Well, you know a lot of times you go, especially 522 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: with trauma, and where do you feel it in your body? 523 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 3: And so it's a really great way to approach your character. 524 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: Where do you feel them in your body? 525 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. 526 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, is it here? Is it in the chest? What happens? 527 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: Is it in the gut? Is it in the groin? 528 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: Is it in? Where is it? And let's start from there. 529 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: I sound kind of crazy, No, no. 530 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: But you don't at all like I feel like that. 531 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: That is sort of an answer to my question of like, 532 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: what would compel you to say yes to certain scripts, 533 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: because for example, something like Destroyer or like The Paper Boy, 534 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: it's like you'd read these things and be like huh. 535 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: But then the huh of it sort of is a 536 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: guttural instinct and so it's not, Oh, I don't feel 537 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: comfortable with that, so I'm going to say no to it. 538 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: It's I feel uncomfortable with that. Let me listen to that. 539 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: And Charlotte Bless say in The Paper Boy, I mean 540 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 3: that was just she's all like she sex, she's wild, 541 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: she's all body, she's all like she's you know, and 542 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to go and we were shooting down there 543 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: and there in in Louisiana in the heat, and it's 544 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: swampy noir and that's kind of great to go and 545 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: do something with Lee Daniels do swampy. 546 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: Noir and zac Efron not bad. 547 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: Dancing in the rain, yeah yeah, yeah, and sitting out 548 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: in front of the Prism with my feet up on 549 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: the dashboard and it's just kind of like, yeah, she's 550 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: she's she's a cat. 551 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: She's wild, and then you get to be wild Louisiana swan. 552 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 553 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: They always say live a normal life and then in 554 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: your imaginary life you can do whatever you want. 555 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: Part of the coolest that's the coolest thing, part of 556 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: your mind. 557 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: Very normal. 558 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: Yes, well, part of your normal life was going to Antarctica. Yeah, 559 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: there's not We're connected here, We're connected. 560 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: I believe we just missed each other. 561 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: We just missed it. We were on the same so everyone, 562 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: Nicole and I were on the same vessel, but at 563 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: different times. 564 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: So before you you. 565 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: Went before me and people on the ship. People. First 566 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: of all, can we just shout out the loveliest crew on. 567 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 3: The on Silverish, right, the loveliest, loveliest people. 568 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it just felt like this wonderful, like, well, 569 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: our boat was. 570 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: Tell me your story, Okay, how'd you end up in Antartica? 571 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: Who were you with? And why did you go? 572 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: Okay? And then and then would love to hear your 573 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: version of yeah, of course. Honestly, I just got back yesterday, 574 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Yes yesterday. 575 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: Because so it's all so present. 576 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: I woke up this morning still feeling the sway of 577 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: Drake path, of the Drake passage, like my brain is 578 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: still used to like being rocked by the by by 579 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: the current, so by the big car, by the big current. 580 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: So my it's my mom. 581 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: And the smell of penguins and the smell of penguin 582 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: ship that that's not the most alluring. 583 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: Smell breaks the majesty. 584 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: The penguins of divine gent penguin chin strap. We love them, 585 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: we love just not their diarrhear their. 586 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: Hate it and and what makes you so confident? 587 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: Diarrhea Island, diarrhea Island. It was diarrhea island. Yeah. I 588 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna just stay down here. I don't 589 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: need to see those chicks those was calling a diarrhea 590 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: island and our whole family. Yeah, yeah, because it was diary. 591 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: I saw no ice, just diar rehear, Oh. 592 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: You missed that. 593 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 3: Their stomachs must not have been upset. 594 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: No, no, they were upset. 595 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: He didn't bring this up. 596 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 3: Well, no, but this is this is just a sidebark 597 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: and tidy Curry is Gordon. 598 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,239 Speaker 1: You don't have to know, We don't have to make 599 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: the books. Take this the main bar. This is diarrhea 600 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: Island is the topic of the rest of You're never 601 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: going to island. 602 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: Already was never going to go to Antarctica. It's I 603 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: don't think it's for me. 604 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: This is a small little section where there was a 605 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: few penguins that had upset stomach. But beyond that they're molting. 606 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's there there. They're just in a moment 607 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: of just like letting it all that. 608 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: I said it. 609 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm hooked on it. 610 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: I just just to just to hear, just to be 611 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: asked by you, how did you go hiking on diary Island? 612 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: Diarrhea island, diarrhea island? 613 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: But back to glorious, glorious and the sea lines and 614 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: the kayaking we kayak? Is that not the greatest thing 615 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: it was? I was the silence, the silence. 616 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting, Yes, it must be the. 617 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: Most No, it is spectacular there truly untouched. 618 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: And the silence is unrivaled. I mean there is you 619 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 3: hear nothing. Yeah, and the most piece that you I 620 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: mean it truly is. And I meditated on the kayak 621 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: for like five minutes and just went I think this 622 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: is the happiest I've ever been. 623 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: Now is that because of the quiet. 624 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: I think it's just everything that surrounds you there and 625 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: there that it's timeless. And then you're aware of the 626 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 3: fragility of everything. 627 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: Because you're aware of because because you're looking out and 628 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: it's like this is untouched, un uncorrupted by man, and 629 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: you realize how much of our surroundings and how much 630 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: of our like interactions, and how much of our psychic 631 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: being is ruined by man. You know what I mean. 632 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: It's like it feels like you're the most in touch 633 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: with like nature as as you ever have been. I 634 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: felt that exact when kayaking, the seals were were were abundant. 635 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: We saw a glacier sort of crumble before our eyes 636 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: and people were like, oh, And I'm like, oh, I 637 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: think that's normal. I think it's a thunderous sound and 638 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: it's not crazy. No, But we so we had to 639 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: go to Punta Arenas. Es been there, been there, and 640 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: we were held for three days and they were about 641 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: the weather. Because of the weather, so they had to 642 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: We were like, so if they if they pushed your 643 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: trip back by three days, they canceled the entire cruise. 644 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: So we were on day three. It was just it 645 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 1: was like Groundhouse's day and like print rainas. It's lovely 646 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: Chile in town. 647 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: So nice, so yeah, so warm, so friendly. 648 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: Great friendly, great food and then great coffee, great coffee, 649 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: great sea bass. Anyway, and now I'm coming around and 650 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: we're coming around. 651 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: Did you not want to go? 652 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: I really didn't. It was going to be I don't 653 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: think you got to go. 654 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: Says you got to go. But you go with people 655 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 3: that are very very like the cruise we went on. Services. 656 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 3: You have to clean everything. I mean they are so 657 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 3: ecologically minded. You have to be so careful because you 658 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 3: can't take any of our viruses or bacteria or anything 659 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: into the into that continent. 660 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: Yes, you you can't. Even they won't let you kneel like, 661 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: they won't let you crouched down like. 662 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 3: They have to wipe everything. Yeah, it's very regimented, very 663 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: very sterile and clean yeah, yeah, right. 664 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: Exactly listen to us. 665 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: No, Well, it's it's kind of like. 666 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: It's a thing people, that's a thing. 667 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 3: You're going, you're yeah, And it's also there's still very 668 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 3: few people that are in. Yeah, what is the percentage? 669 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: I think it's like my mom was saying, it's like 670 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: one percent, which is not which makes it gives it 671 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: a bad rap. It's like it's not one percent clear 672 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: what people do? 673 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: You venturers? 674 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: Who? 675 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 3: And you're an adventurer. 676 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 2: Well, it was his parents dream to go, his mother's 677 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: dream to go. 678 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: Yes, as my parents. And it was like a good son. 679 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: I loved it son. It was great. 680 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 3: Yes, you didn't want to go, but you went. 681 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: I was genuinely excited. 682 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a good son. 683 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: Six right, Yes, I'm on six. 684 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: You haven't done seven. 685 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: I haven't done seven. So I was stolen valide content 686 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: have not done. I am dying to go to Africa. 687 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: I'm still having gone. 688 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 2: I need Africa. 689 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: Yes okay, and Anerica was, oh, but this is just 690 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: to say that, like we so they really got We 691 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: lost three days but we're on the ship. This is great. 692 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: And then I had to fly back in time to 693 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: do the actor wards. But then they kept pushing the 694 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: dates out of King because did you fly in or 695 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: did you cross Drake Passage? 696 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: We flew in. 697 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: We were yeah, we heard about this. 698 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: King George Island crazy. 699 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 700 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: So they wouldn't clear us to fly for three days. 701 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: So then we got the other, the flip side of 702 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: it on the way back, which is we're sailing Drake Passage, 703 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: which is where the Atlantic and the Pacific meat the 704 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: harshest waters happens. 705 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 3: If you don't, if you can't fly out, you you 706 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 3: do have to cross. 707 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: You do have to cross the passage. 708 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 3: I did not know that. I didn't do my full research. 709 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: No, And so when they broke the news to us, 710 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: the room erupted in equal cheers and groans of agony. 711 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: We were about the second we had it. We were 712 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 3: hell for an extra day, yes, And there was tears 713 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: of joy and tears of I've got to get back. 714 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 3: I've got a job to do. I'm going to lose 715 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 3: my job. We got to get off this boat. 716 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: So how did you and the daughters, how did you 717 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: guys react to that, to being held in. 718 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 3: I was happy, okay, and. 719 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: Now you're a cruise person, you said on. 720 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: It, And then I was like, but I got to 721 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: get off. I can do one day, maybe two days, 722 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: but I've got to get back. 723 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: So I think you and I are. 724 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 3: I'm a cruise person. 725 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: Now are you really? Yeah, because you said you have 726 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: you have two more planned? Oh yeah with Silver Sea. No, okay, 727 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: one with Silver Sea great, they're they're they're lovely. 728 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: And one with Ritz Carlton. 729 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: Oh fine, and the A. 730 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm trying them all. I'm ready. I'm ready. But my daughters, 731 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: because there's only two of them, they're like, we want 732 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 3: our family. So my sister has six kids, they have partners, 733 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 3: they all so I bring everyone, and then my best 734 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 3: friend since I was four, all her children and their partner. 735 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 3: It's just we have a big tribe that we travel 736 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 3: with and we're all like and then Katie, who's here, 737 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 3: is like my sister. So we have like this huge 738 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 3: tribe of people. And there's two women that work with 739 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 3: me who've worked with me for years, who are also 740 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: like sister. So it's like, come on, we got to go. 741 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 3: And I love I grew up in a family where 742 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 3: we travel in big groups and we would do things 743 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 3: in big groups, so it's very comforting to me. Yeah, 744 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 3: so if I'm in the position to be able to 745 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 3: share and do it. Of course I'm doing it. I 746 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 3: will work so hard so I can play hard. 747 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. And also it's like we were talking before the 748 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: episode started about like why you'd rewatch something you've already 749 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: seen or do something for me, It's often like I 750 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 2: want to watch other people experience this thing, you know 751 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like sometimes I don't know what that is, 752 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: but yeah, it's like maybe there's something to it for you, 753 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: and wanting everyone to be together. It's like we're going 754 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: to have an experience together, and I really do enjoy 755 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 2: the I don't know what that what that would be called, 756 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 2: but that's sort of like transference that happens when someone 757 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 2: else is having a moment of awe and wonder or 758 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: whatever the emotion is. You might be able to anticipate 759 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,439 Speaker 2: it yourself. But that's like, that's that's a thing. 760 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 3: It's a thing. It's a thing. That's why I love 761 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 3: throwing parties and giving gifts. Yeah, I love doing that. 762 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 763 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a party girl. Yeah, I said once to somebody, 764 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 3: and my kids were making fun of me. Oh, I 765 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: love small dinner parties, but I also love a rave Yeah, 766 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: like does not go together, mom, And I'm like, for me, 767 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 3: it does. 768 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 769 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: You how do you feel do people still uh come 770 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: up to you and bring up Basement as sort of 771 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: a cultural like touched them now in a post Baby 772 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: Girl society. 773 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, Baby Girl hit. We thought it was going to 774 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 3: be speak to older women primarily. It hit a younger 775 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 3: generation and gay men in a way that I had 776 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 3: no idea. 777 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 2: The milk was huge. Milk is back now because of it. 778 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: I had a glass of milk at dinner. 779 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: The other good. 780 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just. 781 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 3: No, But it was fascinating what people related to in 782 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 3: that film. We thought it was a very very very 783 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 3: niche thing, and it actually kind of it moved. It 784 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 3: had tentacles that spread wide and then in the same 785 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 3: way that Big Little Eyes reached sort of a particular 786 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 3: group of people Baby Girl did. 787 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 788 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, because it's unexpected to me, of course. Yeah. 789 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 3: But I loved I loved dancing in Baby Girl. Down 790 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 3: there in that basement, Oh so good. And we started 791 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 3: and I came out of that with COVID and the flu. 792 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: A double where that's where it goes down. 793 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: That's where it went down, And how did how did 794 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: it come back that you just ran all the tests. 795 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 3: I got so sick and they and I knew going in. 796 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, I'm going down here. I 797 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 3: can just feel it. It's the middle of Winner and 798 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 3: it's running rampant right now. So oh well, baby girl 799 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 3: went down, Baby girl, drop drop down. 800 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: You heard on all fours? 801 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, not even on all fours. Flat on my back. 802 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 3: There we go. 803 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: Okay, we're getting now. 804 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: We are right now. 805 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: We now we have to ask you the question, which 806 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: is the central question of our podcast. What was the 807 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: culture that made you say culture was for you? This 808 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: can be a film, you saw a musical artist, something atmospheric. 809 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 3: No, I'm going to tell you couture, couture. Yeah, it 810 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: actually was because all my dreams were based on it. 811 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 3: I would look at like the clothes and fashion and 812 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 3: exquim and my mom would say, look at that and 813 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 3: look how it's made. So from Audrey Hepburn to Grace 814 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 3: Kelly to all the different houses Javona, all of them. 815 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 3: I that's what culturally for me made me dream Wow. 816 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 2: Fashion. 817 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 3: Oh, I grew up loving it. I somehow stumbled into 818 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 3: being exposed to it, standing there with Galiano fitting dresses 819 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,439 Speaker 3: on me and Lagafel fitting dresses on me and being 820 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 3: on the cover of Vogue and having access to the 821 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 3: most beautiful things to wear on your body. 822 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 2: When did that start? 823 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 3: Was little, because I was I would stand on a 824 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 3: table and my grandmother would make all my clothes, but 825 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 3: not kind of just haphazard put them together, like hours 826 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 3: and hours and hours, and she would put little collars 827 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 3: on and little fur and a little trim and some ribbons. 828 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 3: Everything was yeah, couture. So I was baby couture. 829 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 1: Huh. 830 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: I was like yeah, And I would stand there for 831 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 3: hours because I wanted to wear the clothes. 832 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 2: Do you remember the Then I. 833 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 3: Addressed my Barbie in couture clothes because my grandmother would 834 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 3: make my Bobby clothes. So I had clothes for my 835 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 3: Bobby that nobody had. And then even my Kendle had guitar. 836 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 2: This is before Salome. So wait, when do you do 837 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 2: you remember the first designer or like artist in the 838 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: fashion world that you worked with directly and you felt like, oh, 839 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: this is a moment for me in terms of an 840 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 2: entry into the fashion world. 841 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 3: I mean the first one was John Galliano and I 842 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 3: was shooting iceword shut and so I was able to 843 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 3: go over to Paris regularly, and and I would stand 844 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 3: there for them and they would try things on me 845 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 3: and try different fabrics, and then I would go in 846 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 3: and try on the hats and and then I would 847 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 3: go to Carl's. How then it sort of just was 848 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 3: you know, it was just a bridge. And from that 849 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 3: point on I was and you had, really, they don't 850 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 3: come to you. You have to go to them, and 851 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 3: you have to be willing to be a mannequin like 852 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 3: a model and just stand there and let them, let 853 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 3: them design to you. And because I've been so tall 854 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 3: and skinny my whole life, suddenly there was a reason 855 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 3: to be tall and skinny. Yeah, I want it always 856 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 3: to be shortened curvey. And so suddenly it was like, oh, 857 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 3: I can be tall and skinny and somebody doesn't mind that. 858 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: And there's a purpose. I mean, what are you anticipating. 859 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 3: You can utilize it. 860 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: Of course, of course, are you anticipating anything in particular 861 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: with Mcalla this year as being part of the host committee, 862 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: Like because I feel like it's such a pivotal year 863 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: for well, I just get. 864 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 3: To be there with Beyonce. That's it done. Yeah, I'm 865 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 3: done here. We go. 866 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 2: And is it a thing where you guys do you 867 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: discussed you get as being part of the host community 868 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: with Anna. 869 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we work with Anna and who is iconic and 870 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 3: a genius. 871 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: No, she's she's staying on to always chair the Galla 872 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: the Galla. 873 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 3: Okay, we need Anna, we need Anna. Anna has created 874 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 3: so many people's careers. She's a massive supporter of art 875 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 3: and fashion and and women. I mean, she's she's extraordinary 876 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 3: and so therefore to be able to and it's this 877 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 3: is I think it's the third time I've coach had 878 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 3: I think so, but to do it now, I'm so 879 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 3: so happy. And my daughter Sunday will be coming amazing. Yeah. 880 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another thing you get to do with your daughter. 881 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 2: That's incredible. 882 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she loves fashion. She's actually just walked the 883 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 3: door show. Jesus. Yeah, I'm back from Paris now. I know, 884 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 3: I know which I have nothing to do with. It's 885 00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 3: her whole world and her relationship and she and Jonathan Anderson. Yeah, 886 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: it's incredible. 887 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 2: I was thinking as you were talking, like you mentioned 888 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 2: Grace Kelly who you got to portray. You mentioned Audrey Hepburn, 889 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 2: who obviously in Big Little lives, you guys all get 890 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: to do with the Audrey Hepper got and I did 891 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: read and the man. Of course I'll always be in 892 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 2: love with mat I mean yes. And also I wanted 893 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 2: to ask about Lucille Ball because I think that that's 894 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 2: one of my favorite performances you've ever done. You really 895 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 2: did capture just like her, like relentless commitment to get it, 896 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 2: just to getting it right. And I wonder if that's 897 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 2: something that you connected with that was it? 898 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 3: Like she she's a harder worker than me. She knew 899 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 3: what she wanted, she had to be. She came in 900 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 3: an era when she had to be such a trial blazer. 901 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 3: She had to. She was so brilliant that her and 902 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 3: comedy is detail. 903 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 4: Yep. 904 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 3: So, as she would say, comedy is detail. You can't 905 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 3: be generalized. You can't be haphazard. Sometimes you'll stumble on 906 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 3: a joke. But if you're really doing comedy and comedy 907 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 3: every week that has to deliver time and time again, 908 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 3: then that is arduous, hard technical, skilled work. It's not 909 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 3: just fly by night. Give it a whirl, you know, 910 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 3: And that's what that's what I learned from playing her. 911 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 3: She was also an amazing business woman at a time 912 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 3: when they were not women at the helm, and she 913 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 3: had a very you know, complicated love relationship and she 914 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 3: loved him and she was this, you know, just extraordinary 915 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 3: being so to be able to play her, whether I 916 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 3: looked like her or not, I was able to capture 917 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 3: her voice at least and her mannerisms. And then it 918 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 3: was like I couldn't get rid of her, and she 919 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 3: was in me. But it was so fun and half 920 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 3: the stuff that we prepared and everything was not in 921 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 3: the film, so really yeah, yeah. 922 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,240 Speaker 2: The staging of the show, that's really cool. 923 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 3: So I could do every movement, every single movement like 924 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 3: by I studied and studied and with a movement like 925 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 3: we did so much prep and then a tiny bit 926 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 3: of it is in there. But that's that's performance. You 927 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 3: have to do an enormous amount of work and maybe 928 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 3: it makes the cut or maybe it doesn't. It can't 929 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 3: be attached to it. 930 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 2: Kind of complicated theater that was doing sitcom at the 931 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,919 Speaker 2: time that I guess you have. 932 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was doing but like gosh, and 933 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about it because I completely agree, and I 934 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: was It's funny. I was even watching Being the Ricardos 935 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: when I had Omicron and I had to miss my 936 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: only SNL which was that which was that episode in 937 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: December twenty twenty one. But I was watching you and 938 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: it did just give me this. It just did just 939 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: download me with this notion that, like you have to 940 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: be comedy is logistics, would you say earlier, comedy is detail? Yeah, 941 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,240 Speaker 1: detail all in the d It's all in the details. 942 00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,359 Speaker 3: And then where's the laugh? 943 00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 2: Was? 944 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 3: Okay, there it is. And they were lucky because they 945 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 3: have the live studio audience so they had the feedback. 946 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 3: I think it must be so hard trying to do 947 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 3: that without that, because this is like, okay, great, we 948 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: know that works. We know that. It's like when you 949 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 3: do theater and you go, great, that's working. Oh you're 950 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 3: surprised at what works, and then you go, jeez, I 951 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 3: thought that wasn't gonna work, and that just landed. We'll 952 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 3: hold that, save that. We can lay of that now, 953 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 3: and now we can add and add and add. 954 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 2: There's also nothing more distracting than an artificial laugh track, 955 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 2: like some of some of the multicams that they know, 956 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 2: the multicams that they do now, where you can tell 957 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 2: there's an artificial laugh track. I don't think we I mean, 958 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 2: we probably didn't need it, no, because it's just we 959 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 2: know from years of growing up on that. 960 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: Like it's like watching an AI video. It's like, I 961 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: know the artifice here. 962 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 2: It's just a little off in terms of the volume 963 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 2: of the reaction or the timing of the reaction. 964 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: I mean, but you've never hosted SNL before. 965 00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 2: No, back in the nineties you did. 966 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: Oh oh oh yeah. I does this motivate you to 967 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: do it? Did any of that motivate you? Or are 968 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: you yeah? 969 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:06,919 Speaker 3: I would love to do it again. 970 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 2: Oh you should. 971 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 3: It's just a lot of work, it is. It's a 972 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 3: lot of wie. 973 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: It's about sort of gosh, it's because I was gonna 974 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: say it's it's about relinquishing the control but also being 975 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: so just so fastidious with it too. 976 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 3: I'm happy to relinquish control to people that know what 977 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 3: they're doing. So I would be happy to come back 978 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 3: and do it and try stuff and just play, because 979 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 3: really it is playing, right. But it's also when you 980 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 3: have two kids and you live in Nashville, and you work, 981 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 3: and you've got a whole other it's a lot to 982 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,240 Speaker 3: commit to. But it would. I mean, it's an honor 983 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 3: if you ever asked, So, yeah, bow down, I would like, 984 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 3: I would so love to. I'm sort of ready now 985 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 3: because I'm also at a place where I go, Yeah. 986 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 987 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 3: Give it a try. You fall flat on your face. 988 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,760 Speaker 1: It's okay, get back up, you dear diarrhea island. 989 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: You have no idea where I've been and what it 990 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 2: smelled like. 991 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 3: A particulous smell. 992 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I not replica, are you? 993 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 994 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to get to this part of you 995 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 3: have a personality. 996 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 2: You have a heightened smell. Yeah, well you complemented. 997 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm either drawn to or drawn away based on 998 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 3: a smell. 999 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 2: Thank god you're still here, and. 1000 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 3: You made me laugh and I love you both, and 1001 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 3: I love how you smell. 1002 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: This is good. 1003 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So I do we have to ask you this 1004 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 2: other thing, which is so we've had Reese and Laura 1005 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,439 Speaker 2: here now the best, the best time with both of them. 1006 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 2: Reese came in and she did an impression of you. 1007 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 3: I've heard it and it's wrong. Wrong. 1008 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 2: Laura came in and did an impression of Reeese. So 1009 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 2: we have to know if you have a Laura dr 1010 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 2: in a way you definitely do. 1011 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, now let's talk about. 1012 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 2: Right. 1013 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 3: I know, Yes, it's the warmest, most responsive and you go, 1014 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 3: she gets me. 1015 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 2: Her spirits. Yeah that is wow r Yeah it is, 1016 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 2: isn't it? And then she said like it's a little 1017 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 2: bit at the elbows. You know what I mean. 1018 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: From here I'm saying. 1019 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 3: But seeing those two together, watching them improv, oh my god, hilarious. Yeah, 1020 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 3: they should actually have their own improv show. The Yeah, hilarious. 1021 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,760 Speaker 2: We were laughing. 1022 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you haven't seen them together, no, throw it back. 1023 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 3: I mean they're both brit comedians, Yes, brilliant. And then 1024 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 3: I just worked with one of the other brilliant comedians 1025 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:11,399 Speaker 3: of my generation. And Sandy Buller, oh magic too, Yeah, 1026 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,959 Speaker 3: I mean those women own it of course, come on yeah, 1027 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 3: and and Julia Julia, oh of course, the great comedians 1028 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 3: of Can we not. 1029 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 2: Sleep on your performance and just go with it? 1030 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 1: Please? 1031 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 2: Okay, because there are people I know and I'm going 1032 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 2: to shout them out, Jared Frieder, who says that's Nicholl's best. Yes, 1033 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 2: just go with it. You don't have you have no 1034 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 2: idea how many. 1035 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 3: Dave Matthews where I'm dancing on the thing. 1036 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: You've got to do everyone, haven't you done. It's amazing, 1037 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: It's truly incredible. 1038 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in I was in Hawaii with Adam Sandler 1039 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 3: and Jen I mean, John, can it? Can it get 1040 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 3: better than that? 1041 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1042 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 3: And Dave Matthew. 1043 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,720 Speaker 2: We got to get you in the Morning Show. Yeah, 1044 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 2: we're going to get you in there with recent gen 1045 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 2: on the Morning Show. 1046 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 3: In all my spare time, I do have. 1047 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 2: A question about how you do all of it? Do 1048 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 2: your calendar and is it? Are you booked through December 1049 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 2: at this point? 1050 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 1: Actually not, you're not, No, I'm not. 1051 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 2: Is that a purposeful choice for this year? 1052 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm open as of the summer. I'm just like, 1053 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm going, Okay, what's coming my way? I give you, 1054 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,760 Speaker 3: But I'm I'm I've got some holidays planned. 1055 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 2: There we go. 1056 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all about the vacation. Yes, right, So so 1057 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,280 Speaker 3: I got a cruise planned. 1058 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 2: Yes, where are you going? 1059 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 3: I can't tell, I'll tell you please. 1060 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to Thailand for the first time. 1061 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 3: Lovely. Oh yeah, I love Thailand. Yeah, all over Thailand. 1062 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 3: I do feel like, for some reason, filmed in Thailand. 1063 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's twice. 1064 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,399 Speaker 3: I did bank Call Kilton when I was really really young, 1065 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 3: and then I did a film Railway Man. 1066 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, yes. 1067 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 3: No you don't know that. 1068 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 2: I don't think yeah, but. 1069 00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes. 1070 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 2: Nicole, yes, yes, I'm happy you didn't. You can't watch 1071 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 2: it all. But no, I'm excited because I do feel 1072 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 2: like it's this weird, random thing that keeps happening where 1073 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 2: I end up going on a vacation to whatever. The 1074 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 2: last White lotus was, thank you, Mike White. 1075 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 3: Where is he going next? Where did he say he's going? 1076 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: Well, you should get ahead of it. 1077 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 2: He's going to it's you. 1078 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 3: That's the rumor far out that's gonna that's gonna throw down, right, 1079 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 3: this is what the. 1080 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 1: Well he said. 1081 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,879 Speaker 2: There was an interview he did the other day where 1082 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,959 Speaker 2: he said the interview deals some with celebrity and about 1083 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 2: people who are comfortable being seeking out a love that 1084 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 2: is more than just with one other person. They need 1085 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 2: a love of something larger, and about answering that question 1086 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 2: of why and about how people can feel when they're 1087 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 2: in a relationship with someone who needs more love than 1088 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 2: just one person can provide really interesting and I think that, 1089 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 2: like you know, obviously there's going to. 1090 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 3: Well if that comes back to that person is not 1091 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 3: satiated with themselves, right, they're not in love with themselves? 1092 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: Right? Is that what. 1093 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 3: They're not at peace? 1094 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 1095 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 3: So that's a pretty you're I mean, you're going to 1096 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 3: face You're going to have to face the reality of 1097 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 3: what this life is at some point. So whether you're 1098 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 3: going to allow yourself to come to that place or 1099 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 3: whether you're just gonna get felt by it, right, it's 1100 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 3: it's a choice. So you can do the work to 1101 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 3: actually try to and it's never done, but you can 1102 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 3: always be going, Okay, what do I do here? How 1103 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 3: do I what? What is the next chapter? Particular, when 1104 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 3: you get to a certain stage in life, it's like, okay, 1105 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 3: where am I at now? With who I am? And 1106 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 3: am I okay being alone? Because as soon as you're 1107 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 3: okay with and when I say being alone, like really 1108 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 3: being sure, it's not just being alone for a couple 1109 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 3: of days in your in your apartment, it's am I 1110 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 3: okay with being alone? There will be nobody there when 1111 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 3: I die? Is that going to be okay? 1112 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: Are you no? 1113 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 3: But you know you can't. You don't know. So at 1114 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 3: some point you've got to just face the facts. 1115 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 1: It's which is about your guy? 1116 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 2: Geez? Right there? True. 1117 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 3: I think about yeah, three am in the morning when 1118 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 3: you wake up and you are alone. Well, that then 1119 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 3: is like, okay, this is where I have to be 1120 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 3: at peace. 1121 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: And being a piece is just about like assigning meaning 1122 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: to if the meaning you're assigning to your life is 1123 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: not like deleterious in some aspect to your vitality. It's 1124 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 1: like if it's like this thing of like if you 1125 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 1: were if your love has to involve the love of 1126 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: other people in this way, that is a little grotesque 1127 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: or untenable or unsustainable. It's like that is going to 1128 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 1: eat away at something. You have to find. You have 1129 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: to switch gears and find a different reason to like 1130 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: be alive and to give yourself meaning besides this thing 1131 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: that is not healthy for you. 1132 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: You can't give you what you're needing from it. 1133 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 3: Never will never never. 1134 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 2: Mike White, and do you ever watch any reality television, 1135 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 2: because he's fully on Survivor right now. You to know this. 1136 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 2: Mike White is a Survivor contestant. He came in second. Oh, 1137 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to tell you this. He came in 1138 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 2: second on a season of Survivor years ago, post him 1139 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 2: being a well known Hollywood writer. Way after you know, 1140 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 2: School of Rock and Enlightened and all of that. He 1141 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 2: went on Survivor, came in second place in a tough 1142 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 2: like to eat something. I'm sure it's what do you 1143 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 2: have to do? 1144 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: Live? 1145 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: You gotta live, you gotta do the tribal council, the votes, 1146 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 2: all that come in second place, second, And now he's 1147 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 2: on the This is the fiftieth season where they've brought 1148 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 2: back all the icons of the show. And I guess 1149 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 2: some somehow he fit into his schedule going out there 1150 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 2: for nearly thirty days and competing on Survivor. He's on 1151 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 2: it right now. 1152 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 3: How's he doing. 1153 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Well, It's only one week, but so far, so good. 1154 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 2: And his whole narrative in the first episode was and 1155 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 2: he had like this ripped body, and everyone was like 1156 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Mike White, but I was like, I mean, man, it's 1157 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 2: got a Hollywood trainer. 1158 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: There you go. 1159 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 2: That was the whole His whole narrative on the first 1160 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 2: episode was, Oh my god, he's ripped. 1161 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 3: That's crazy. I had no idea. 1162 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, but you watch everything but reality TV. No. 1163 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 3: I sometimes watch reality TV. I've watched it with my 1164 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 3: daughters and I've been like, oh no, this is too much. 1165 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 3: Turn it off. I'm not allowed to talk about what 1166 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 3: they're into anything. Okay, I'm too what I get called 1167 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 3: millennial So. 1168 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: During the jo the club. 1169 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 3: Place, and that's not a compliment, right. 1170 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 2: Right, But you do have reputation, like like for watching 1171 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 2: a lot like Reese does the impression of you being like, 1172 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 2: we have to get this to me. 1173 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 3: But I watch films and I watch Yeah, I'm like, yeah, 1174 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, who is this over here in Norway right now? 1175 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 3: And over Yeah, I'm like I love to that. I've 1176 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 3: grown up doing that. I would go and I would 1177 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 3: sit in a dark there and I would watch subtitle 1178 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 3: films since I was little. Yeah, it was my access 1179 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 3: to the world. And I also wanted to raise global children. 1180 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 3: So that's why my kids have been to seven continents. 1181 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 1: That's amazing as of two weeks ago or three weeks ago. 1182 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, right, they hit seven at what ages? 1183 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 3: She's fifteen? 1184 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 1: The yeah, beautiful, that's amazing. 1185 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Now they've got to go round. 1186 01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:02,640 Speaker 2: To find a continent. There is the moon, the eighth continent, 1187 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 2: the moon. It's actually real culture number fifteen. 1188 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: There is the moon, the eighth the Moon. 1189 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to think if before we do I 1190 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 2: don't think so, honey. If there's anything else, I need 1191 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 2: to pick our guests. Oh no, an expression I don't 1192 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 2: like pick brain brain. 1193 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can pick my brain, pick my heart your herd? 1194 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 2: Oh okay, wait, you know that you have one of 1195 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 2: the most iconic vokes seventy three questions. 1196 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 1: I do you do? 1197 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 3: I did not know? 1198 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:29,920 Speaker 1: My six our packs? 1199 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean there's only four. 1200 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 1: Now there's only four. Sorry, yeah, we're gonna get two 1201 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: new ones. 1202 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good, Yeah, we got to keep it at 1203 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 2: six out packers, my six our packers. 1204 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 3: And then they're like, can you lead the outpackat through 1205 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 3: the frame. We're like no, no, you do not understand. 1206 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 3: We're like, come on, come on, come on. Byron named 1207 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 3: after Lord Byron, come on, come on Byron. 1208 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 1: No. 1209 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 3: Byron was like no. Then we're like, forget it. It 1210 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 3: just doesn't look good. By we're pulling, So just like, no, 1211 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 3: sit on the porch on the steps. 1212 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: How many takes? 1213 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 2: Wass uh? 1214 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 3: Maybe six? 1215 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's a it's a long day. 1216 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 3: It's a long day, but you kind of play and yeah, 1217 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 3: but you walked all through my country estate. 1218 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 2: I love it. 1219 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 3: It's different. Now okay, yeah, I've redesigned it. I redid it. 1220 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 3: Might might need another seventy three questions, then. 1221 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 2: We have to go back. We'll do it. That want 1222 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 2: to do it? Yeah, more animal, there you go, reason 1223 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 2: to return. 1224 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 3: Questions and perfect for the first time. Two horses horses. 1225 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 3: You didn't meet the horses. We didn't get to many many. 1226 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 2: More because he had never Okay, so he had he 1227 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 2: had a blind spot, which was he had a blind 1228 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 2: just to die for? Which was I love now, love 1229 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 2: to die for? I love Susanstone, su Sandstone. 1230 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 3: I feel like sand Stone is a killer. 1231 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love her for pretty killer. She was 1232 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 2: a gorgeous skiller. But I have to say like that, 1233 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 2: there's just something again, maybe it. 1234 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 3: Is Henry and I can't believe I wrote that. 1235 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Gus. 1236 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, buck Henry for everyone. If you saw The Graduate, 1237 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 3: he wrote The Graduate and he's one of the great 1238 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 3: great writers. And then Gus Vincent, what can we say? 1239 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 2: I also shout out to obviously walking but Ileana Douglas, 1240 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 2: Oh amazing in that movie and gets lost in the 1241 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 2: conversation of great performances from that era. That's a great performance. 1242 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: Was she already a skater? When you guys. 1243 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,479 Speaker 3: She couldn't. She said she could skate. 1244 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 1: Hey, we're at I love it. 1245 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 3: Can you I skate? Absolutely as and then she was 1246 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 3: on the ice not so good. It's so good in 1247 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 3: the movie in a double, but she did. She got there. 1248 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 3: But you know that's what you say. Can you ride 1249 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 3: a host? Can you I skate? Yes? I can? Can you? 1250 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 2: What have you? 1251 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 3: I've said yeah, I can sing? And then Baz is like, 1252 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,439 Speaker 3: we're going to need more singing lessons. You know, it's 1253 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 3: always yes, and then you. 1254 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 1: Grow because you know who I'm talking. I'm talking to 1255 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 1: Gina because her book My Love I Will Yeah, all 1256 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: through her memory she's like every every roll I've got, 1257 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:32,959 Speaker 1: like show Girls, can you dance? Yeah, it's yes, I will. 1258 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 1: I will. 1259 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 2: But then it's going to become that thing where it's 1260 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 2: like can you ski? And I'm going to be like yeah, 1261 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 2: and you really can't, and then it's a hazard. So 1262 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 2: say yes within reason people, yeah, and. 1263 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 3: You dangerous when you say it's like how much do 1264 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 3: you want? Want the role? 1265 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 2: Exactly? 1266 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 3: And they're onto us now because then they're like, okay, 1267 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 3: we'll show us. 1268 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 2: Video. 1269 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 1: They've got it. 1270 01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 3: They've hacked us directors and produces a like send me 1271 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 3: a tape, show me. 1272 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: Not that anyone has to put you through your piece. 1273 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 2: I know, like you've proven you can do everything. Also, 1274 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 2: like what I'm on, I'm on. 1275 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 3: I'm just on a massive learning curve. I'm always like, okay, 1276 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 3: teach me, teach me. I'm teachable. That would be a 1277 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 3: good attribute to say, I'm teachable. 1278 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:24,880 Speaker 2: Teachable, that's a great thing to be. 1279 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,440 Speaker 1: I think it's it is. 1280 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, And I'm not rigid. 1281 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 1: I always wake up, yes, I. 1282 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,440 Speaker 3: Always always always. 1283 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 2: What do you attribute that to? 1284 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. Born that way always, I've always woken 1285 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,439 Speaker 3: up in a good mood. 1286 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:46,919 Speaker 2: Does that correlate to how you go to bed? 1287 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 3: I go to bed. I have trouble sleeping because I 1288 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 3: have a lot of energy. Yeah, you or not after midday, 1289 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 3: but I did today. That's why I'm kind of jacked up. Now, 1290 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 3: can you tell me? I'm usually a lot more sedate. Yeah, 1291 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 3: I feel a bit jacked up. 1292 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 2: Actually, I had a cold brewt today and then two 1293 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 2: Coke zero, so I'm a killing machine. 1294 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1295 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1296 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 3: Will you sleep tonight? 1297 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 2: Maybe not, but that would be because I was so 1298 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 2: excited about this. No, I'm serious, we have been dying. 1299 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 2: I know. 1300 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 1: It felt cosmically right when when on the boat you 1301 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 1: were like, you know, who's just here' Nicole Kim and 1302 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm talking to her next week. It 1303 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 1: was it was crazy. I feel like even though you 1304 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 1: are capping post mid day, it is still talking to 1305 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 1: you and being with you in person. It is still 1306 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 1: the thing of like, oh well, Nicole Kimen like has 1307 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 1: levitated in all her roles essentially, you know what I mean. 1308 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 1: It's you have this like airy lightness. 1309 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 3: You can feel so good. 1310 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 2: Well, you have given so much to culture, and that's 1311 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 2: what our podcast is about. And we've now been doing 1312 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 2: it for ten years. And I would imagine you probably 1313 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 2: come up like you know, quite often to say the least. 1314 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 2: And I just think back to all the eras of 1315 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 2: like our life as moviegoers, and you have a place 1316 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 2: in all of them, and I just and in so 1317 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,320 Speaker 2: many different ways, like whether it's like as mainstream as 1318 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 2: Batman or as niche as something like birth, you know 1319 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,759 Speaker 2: what I mean, or you know Dogville or dog Ville. 1320 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 2: I mean like this is like you are a true 1321 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 2: you have a true artist spirit, and you're also this 1322 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 2: like Megawatt movie star, and they just they don't make 1323 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 2: them like it anymore. Like Margot Robbie must be like 1324 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:39,680 Speaker 2: sister Tea. 1325 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love Emma Stone. She's so brave and 1326 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 3: she's just like, yeah, shave my head. Absolutely, what do 1327 01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 3: you want your ghost? Let's go. 1328 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1329 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 3: But then you know, I've I've just went and worked 1330 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 3: with Osgod Perkins. I did a small role in Young People, 1331 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 3: which is this horror film that he's got coming in, 1332 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 3: and I love him and wanted to go and support him. 1333 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 3: So he's like, I've written this role. It's three days work, 1334 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 3: and I'm like, yep, yep, I'm coming coming your way. 1335 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1336 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 3: So I just love being able to do something like 1337 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,040 Speaker 3: Practical Magic, which is a big studio film, and then 1338 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 3: go do a fully independent, crazy wild thing. Can you 1339 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,640 Speaker 3: give a bunch of really great young actresses who are 1340 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:22,639 Speaker 3: rising stars. 1341 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 2: I mean we're friends with Meghan Fay and. 1342 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just yeah, And she's she's so good. She 1343 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 3: is on the cusp of being massive. 1344 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 2: She can do it all. She can do it all, yeah, 1345 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 2: I mean. 1346 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,520 Speaker 3: And she's sort of effortless. 1347 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: She was in this movie. 1348 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 2: Called Drop, which came out last year, which was She 1349 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 2: plays a single mom, recently single mom who goes on 1350 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 2: the first date she's been on since her abuse. Her 1351 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,840 Speaker 2: husband like took his own life and tried to kill her, 1352 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 2: and she's finally got her legs again, and she goes 1353 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 2: on a blind date with this guy and she sits 1354 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 2: down at dinner and she starts getting air dropped messages 1355 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 2: from someone at her home who's kidnapped her son. And 1356 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,639 Speaker 2: so it's just it's sort of like like a it's 1357 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 2: like a red Eye meets like I don't even know. 1358 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 3: It's I'm going to watch it. 1359 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 1: Oh, it's good. 1360 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 2: And Megan is fantastic, and she holds the frame and 1361 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 2: she's just so. 1362 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 3: She's gorgeous and she's talented. 1363 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna teach her after this. Yeah yeah, But anyways, 1364 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 2: all that and more. Don't think so, honey, which we 1365 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 2: take one minute to tear something up in culture. We 1366 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,880 Speaker 2: time it, you'll see how it goes. No, I know, 1367 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 2: all right, I'm ready to go, and it's not going 1368 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 2: to be popular with with the rest of the panel 1369 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,719 Speaker 2: here today, but I'm just gonna go ahead. 1370 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 1: And I know where this is going. I think Matt Rogers, 1371 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:44,719 Speaker 1: I don't think so money as time starts. 1372 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 2: Now, I don't think so, honey, Antarctica, because I FaceTime 1373 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 2: my girl on the way to Antarctica, and she's soup 1374 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,520 Speaker 2: pine in a rickety vessel. 1375 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: With the what do you call it, a scop past, 1376 01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 1: a scop. 1377 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 2: Patch, whatever this is. To learn what that is, He's 1378 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 2: got the scott patch whatever it is, however you goddamn 1379 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 2: spell it on his neck. I go, is that helping? 1380 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, But I can't see my girl's cross 1381 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 2: eyed soup pine on the Drake's passage. Now I know 1382 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 2: what the Drake's passage is. The most treacherous water is. 1383 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 2: So the Atlantic meets the Pacific. I don't think so, honey, 1384 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:21,480 Speaker 2: keep them separate. I see my girl finally gets to Antarctica, 1385 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 2: takes a few pictures, sends me a video. It's the 1386 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 2: iceberg falling apart the iceberg. Takes the video of the iceberg, 1387 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,719 Speaker 2: and I say, now, is that supposed to happen? He says, 1388 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 2: They go yes and no. I go, okay, not great 1389 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 2: information from me on tonight. I don't think so, honey. Antarctica, 1390 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 2: you can kind of get there, kind of not you 1391 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,839 Speaker 2: have to wait days. Nicole Kimmon's flying in on an ice. 1392 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:49,799 Speaker 2: What is it called the pathway? I don't know, so, honey, 1393 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. And that's one man. Maybe 1394 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 2: not for me. I can get I can get Africa 1395 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 2: in and that'll be six. 1396 01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,040 Speaker 3: And you, Yeah, we will work on you. 1397 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 1: I just know that's a bad that they're not. 1398 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 3: We can delete that. 1399 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,599 Speaker 2: We're deleting. We can delete that on this mony. Okay, 1400 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,720 Speaker 2: I will say, yeah, I had planned to do that once, 1401 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 2: so I did it. But you guys do make it 1402 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 2: sound really appealing and adventurous. The quiet. 1403 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 3: You've already changed your mind. 1404 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 1: The patch is transdermal. It steadies your optic nerves, so 1405 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 1: then I couldn't see. 1406 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 3: Yikes. I didn't do the patch. I just was pug. 1407 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:36,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did it. 1408 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 3: I'm a Navy seal. Yeah no, I've been told that 1409 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:40,599 Speaker 3: with pain. 1410 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,360 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, what what made someone say that to you? 1411 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 3: Because I can no, No, for some reason, destroyer and 1412 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,720 Speaker 3: just still not even go and get it X ray 1413 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 3: and not check it and walk around and just say 1414 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 3: it's a pull muscle. Really yeah? 1415 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1416 01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,879 Speaker 3: Holy, Now that's not not normal all for a redhead, 1417 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,639 Speaker 3: because usually you feel extra pain. 1418 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,720 Speaker 2: That's what they say felt yeah. 1419 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 3: The way there, Yeah, it's something to do. They just say, well, 1420 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 3: I'm not that Yeah, I can like I don't know. 1421 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,720 Speaker 3: I put myself in a trance. They go, do you 1422 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:16,800 Speaker 3: need the anesthesia? 1423 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 2: No, huh, so you need a do survivor. 1424 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 3: What you're saying whish I know Mike was doing it. 1425 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 3: I would have done it with him. 1426 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 2: I don't think it's too late. We might get him 1427 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:27,799 Speaker 2: back for another season. 1428 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 3: If you should have texted me and said you want 1429 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 3: to do this together, honestly, we would have gone head 1430 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 3: to head. I definitely would have come in second. I 1431 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 3: think I think I will come in last though, because 1432 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 3: I give up easily. 1433 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 2: No, you don't. You can walk around with a broken board. 1434 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,800 Speaker 3: No, But in terms of a competition, that's that I 1435 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,920 Speaker 3: would just go, I give up? 1436 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:50,799 Speaker 2: Are you not a competitor. 1437 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,280 Speaker 3: I'm not good to have on a sports team because 1438 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,959 Speaker 3: I was always chosen last for the volleyball team, because 1439 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 3: I just was like, wow, is this really important to 1440 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 3: win this? I'm not a good doubles tennis partner because 1441 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I can psychologic. I need I need 1442 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,280 Speaker 3: some sports psychology. 1443 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 2: I got. 1444 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:16,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I give up. I'm like didn't matter. We lost 1445 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,719 Speaker 3: six zero. I'm so sorry. 1446 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 1447 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,680 Speaker 3: It's just too stressful. Life's too stressful. 1448 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 2: It's too stressful to care about. 1449 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 3: Not all the tennis match. Let's just play some recreational tennis. 1450 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 2: Hit the ball, said, hit the ball? 1451 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 1452 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 2: Serve it? They're not going to get what they want, right, 1453 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 2: your tennis partner. 1454 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 3: But I'll play, and I'll wear a short tennis girt 1455 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 3: and I look. 1456 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:53,679 Speaker 2: Cute the vibes. 1457 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, ur. 1458 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 2: Are you ready? Here we go? 1459 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:04,519 Speaker 3: Really fall. 1460 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 2: This is mownangus. I don't think Sony. His time starts now. 1461 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't think Sony. The scam, the long con that 1462 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 1: is outdoor furniture. What do you mean I gotta tie 1463 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 1: it down? What do you mean that a cough of 1464 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 1: a Victorian child could blow the cushions into another yard? 1465 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm doing parkour from one patio to the next, 1466 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 1: just to fetch my damn stained, water stained cushions for 1467 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 1: my thrickity Ratton reptan chair. I gotta tie up the 1468 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,480 Speaker 1: umbrella that is also going to be marked by the 1469 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 1: the dirt and minerals of rain. I don't know, man, 1470 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 1: if you gotta tie down anything starting blow away like tumbleweed. 1471 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's worth buying and placing in in 1472 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 1: the in your own space. Outdoor furniture it's it's a scam. 1473 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 1: You're outdoor rugs. They're gonna look like ship in six months, 1474 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 1: wait for one season to pass by, to look bad. 1475 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,720 Speaker 2: And that's one minute. That's true. I have to sign this. 1476 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:14,640 Speaker 3: I'm co signing it. 1477 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 1: To and you're you want a damn farm nicole and. 1478 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, you get the beautiful, warm, stained wood and 1479 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 3: they're like, no, the silver, ratty thing is actually what 1480 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,680 Speaker 3: it's meant to look like. And you're like, no, no, 1481 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,439 Speaker 3: I wanted it to stay looking like it was in 1482 01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 3: the store. That's what you said it would do. It's 1483 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,720 Speaker 3: just like any furniture you put outside and then it 1484 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 3: gets old and ratty. It's faster, fast, faster, actually furniture. 1485 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,880 Speaker 3: You're right, So just drag the indoor furniture outside when 1486 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 3: you need it. 1487 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: You might as well. You might as well. 1488 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 2: It gets incredibly dirty, incredibly quickly, especially in La where 1489 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,839 Speaker 2: at least where my place is like just and I agree. 1490 01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 1: I anyway, I'm just saying. 1491 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,360 Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey, thank. 1492 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,040 Speaker 2: You that part. And you know, I hate thinking about 1493 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 2: you doing parkour around the building Spider Man or something. 1494 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm running around going, hey, pal my, my little topiari 1495 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 1: fell into your whatever, you know what I mean? 1496 01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:19,719 Speaker 3: Like yeah, And then you've got the outdoor cushions piled 1497 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 3: up indoors, taking up space, not looking good. Where do 1498 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 3: we put these? Just shove them in the corner, and 1499 01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 3: you're like, just just get rid of them. They're ugly. 1500 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 1: I have to have a storage bin for these tarps 1501 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,320 Speaker 1: to cover. I don't like grill. 1502 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, tarps. Can I say, nothing 1503 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:42,679 Speaker 2: good happens around the tarp? 1504 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 1: No, no, no. 1505 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:44,920 Speaker 2: Lay down on the tarp. 1506 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 1: That was another thing in Antarctica that we had. You 1507 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,600 Speaker 1: couldn't put anything to you to put it down on 1508 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 1: the tarp, to put your life jacket onto. 1509 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 3: The tarp, to protect it all, to protect it all, some. 1510 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 2: More of the Antarctica energy around the world. I think so, 1511 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,720 Speaker 2: because I will say, we went to Tokyo then came 1512 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 2: back to America. Couldn't believe how filthy we are by comparison. 1513 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 2: Like you walk around New York and you compare it 1514 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 2: to Tokyo. It's like absolutely obsurd, like you don't even 1515 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 2: see it because you're so used to it. 1516 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:13,400 Speaker 1: I know. 1517 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like that. 1518 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,919 Speaker 3: And it's all about the contrast, isn't it. And then yeah, 1519 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 3: to open your eyes. 1520 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why it's important to travel. 1521 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 1: I agree. 1522 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:23,879 Speaker 2: I agree. 1523 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 1: Now it's time. 1524 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 2: It's gonna be good. 1525 01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 1: I think I think you've got it. You've got the idea. 1526 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:30,599 Speaker 3: I just got the idea. 1527 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna absolutely crush it. 1528 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,719 Speaker 1: Though this is Nicole Kidman's I don't think so, honey, 1529 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 1: and her time starts now, I. 1530 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,639 Speaker 3: Don't think so honey. If you have bad breath, I 1531 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 3: cannot stand bad breath. I mean this is a deal 1532 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,560 Speaker 3: breaker for me. Like you could be the most gorgeous, 1533 01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 3: gorgeous guy and you come at me with bad breath 1534 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, no, no, it's off right. It's 1535 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 3: like if I say wreathe on me and I have 1536 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 3: to recoil. Yikes, I'm out. I am out. You could 1537 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,680 Speaker 3: not offer me enough money. And so therefore, when Alexander 1538 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 3: scarsguard ate a Faluffel sandwich before we did the scenes 1539 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 3: in big little eyes, I'm like, no, no, no, alex 1540 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 3: I'm meant to be kissing you and into you. Put 1541 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:29,799 Speaker 3: away the faluffel now right, because the bad breath does 1542 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:34,080 Speaker 3: not turn me on. As I said, it is very 1543 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 3: important to smell good, but more importantly the mouth, the 1544 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,719 Speaker 3: taste of the mouth and the smell of the mouth 1545 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,240 Speaker 3: is very important to me. 1546 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 1: And that's one minute. 1547 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,000 Speaker 2: I have to say, Alexander Scarsguard has been having such 1548 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 2: a moment with Pillion and you just knocked him out. 1549 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure he did not eat a faluffel ever. 1550 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, you looked him in the eyes and I said. 1551 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 3: No more for lufful, no more that. Nope, not before 1552 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:08,800 Speaker 3: you kiss, not before you make love, No more fluffoul away. 1553 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 2: It's a rule of culture number fifty. 1554 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,639 Speaker 1: Before you make love. And I just have to say, 1555 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:21,600 Speaker 1: for an actor of your caliber to say that falafful 1556 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:27,960 Speaker 1: could destroy the reality of the scene, could just render, 1557 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:33,919 Speaker 1: could render the scene work completely meaningless, purely on breath. 1558 01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 1: You really are an old breath. 1559 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 2: You are factory. 1560 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:45,799 Speaker 3: So the smell yeah, yeah, your sense totallyah smell memory, 1561 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,720 Speaker 3: which is why when I lost it, I was relieved. 1562 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,760 Speaker 1: After basement, you said, unburdened me. 1563 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:57,080 Speaker 3: I was like, few, oh, this is straight. 1564 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,200 Speaker 1: This is after the girl. 1565 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:00,759 Speaker 3: To the smell. 1566 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in it. 1567 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,280 Speaker 3: I was in a good way because it was a mutet. 1568 01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 3: It was finally article. 1569 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:17,760 Speaker 1: I was free, so that when it came back, I 1570 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 1: am obsessed. 1571 01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 2: I can't now now knowing. 1572 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,040 Speaker 3: And you want to know who smells the best ever? 1573 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 1: Oh of course I've heard that. 1574 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,400 Speaker 3: Actually it's true. 1575 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:30,679 Speaker 1: Do you think it's. 1576 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 2: That like she just has a scent that like like 1577 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,080 Speaker 2: like a fragrance that she isn't It's something. 1578 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,760 Speaker 3: We don't need to We don't need to unwrap, we 1579 01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 3: don't need to just know it's all true. 1580 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,600 Speaker 1: What does it smell like? 1581 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:48,240 Speaker 3: I've intoxicating. It is like I will follow you around 1582 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:53,759 Speaker 3: and it is like you smell Oh my god. 1583 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 1: I will follow you around. So you're saying, yeah. 1584 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 2: The most respectful way. 1585 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 3: No, truly, she smells divine. But are you also really 1586 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 3: smell divine? 1587 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:15,720 Speaker 2: I have my characters on today We Love Looney to Love. Yeah, 1588 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 2: there is no don't you little quack? There's tweet? Oh 1589 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,240 Speaker 2: my good, honestly I want. 1590 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 1: Something is happening. You were in a thrall right now 1591 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 1: about Rihanna tweety bird smells in general. 1592 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,280 Speaker 2: Legendary ladies of our time. 1593 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 3: I'm sensory. 1594 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm so happy I remembered to so good anyways, 1595 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:49,200 Speaker 2: so good. 1596 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,759 Speaker 3: Listen this hatfuls tweety bird, Rihanna, Rihanna. 1597 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 2: We covered it all diarrhea island. 1598 01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,679 Speaker 1: That's why I didn't I get you see of course. 1599 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, the smell. It's all about the smell. 1600 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 2: It's been a shivery delicious episodes. 1601 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 3: Fabulous. 1602 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,120 Speaker 2: Fabulous doesn't even begin to cut it. We want to 1603 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 2: just say thank you so much for coming here. Scarpetta 1604 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,639 Speaker 2: is out now you can. You can stream it the 1605 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 2: hell away, like in one binge. 1606 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,760 Speaker 3: That's what Nicole is saying to Jamie. Lee. Curtis and 1607 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 3: I got fisty cups. We come to We physically fight 1608 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:28,080 Speaker 3: in it. 1609 01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:29,759 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so happy. 1610 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 3: We literally fight and you you are like come to blows. 1611 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 1: You are too. I'm gonna say, rambunctious people. And just 1612 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,719 Speaker 1: to see that it's going to be good. It's worth 1613 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,080 Speaker 1: the price, I hope. 1614 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 3: So Okay, and troubles Me Yes, I produced. 1615 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,519 Speaker 2: That, Yes, Yes, Yes on its way. 1616 01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,800 Speaker 3: Yes with and the darling Oh my god, we. 1617 01:23:54,720 --> 01:24:01,880 Speaker 2: Didn't even talk about the no bring me the Anatomy book. 1618 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 2: Okay starts the episode the best just like we gotta go. 1619 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 2: She's gonna were Scarpetta, but on the next episode it 1620 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 2: will be all about the biguiled. 1621 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:15,679 Speaker 1: And bring back. 1622 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,479 Speaker 3: You gotta ask me back anytime, and you. 1623 01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,439 Speaker 1: Gotta have the yes. 1624 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,720 Speaker 2: Please don't threaten us. All right, he can't bring those 1625 01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,439 Speaker 2: Hey are we end never episode with the song come 1626 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:36,280 Speaker 2: We're both you. Come on man, you were really you 1627 01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:36,639 Speaker 2: in there. 1628 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,240 Speaker 3: I will. 1629 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 2: Until we love that throaty felt you and it's gonna 1630 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 2: call out Okay. 1631 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,599 Speaker 1: Last Culture Recis is the production by Will Ferrell's Big 1632 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:54,879 Speaker 1: Money Players in My Heart Radio. 1633 01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 2: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, 1634 01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,679 Speaker 2: executive produced by Anna hosby A and produced by Decca Ramos, 1635 01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,160 Speaker 2: Edited and mixed by Duck Babe, and our music is 1636 01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:05,160 Speaker 2: by Henry Komerski. 1637 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 3: H