1 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health. 2 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: Welcome into One Bell's Live. Happy Free Agency Week, everybody. 3 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: It's been so fun to get to know some of 4 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: these new players on this roster and guess what they're 5 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: in the building today. We're gonna have some on the show. 6 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: Some have just done their press conferences with local media. 7 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a busy show today. I'm Mattie Glabb 8 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: and I'm joined by CBS NFL Draft analyst Chris Drapasso, 9 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: who's filling in for Steve Tasker. 10 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: Apreci shit you coming on with us today. A lot 11 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: to talk about. 12 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: This is one of my favorite weeks of the year. 13 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 4: My birthdays tomorrow and this always coincides with free agency. 14 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 5: Now. 15 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 4: The last couple of years, the Bills haven't had as 16 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: much money. They just haven't had as many roster spots 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: to fill. Now, with a little more money, we've seen 18 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 4: one of the busier free agent periods. Right away for 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 4: Brandon Bean, we thought, hey, it's not gonna be until 20 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 4: Thursday or Friday that the Bill's actually signed players. That's 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: not the case. The guys are here. We're gonna get 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 4: to maybe talk to a few of them face to face. 23 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: So one of the more fun times of the offseason 24 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: for me. 25 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I my mind goes to it because it's been 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: the past few years where Bean starts to make moves, 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: maybe not right away, but later in the week or 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: in the second week of free agency, and this year 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: it's been a bam, bam bam. We're hearing stuff during 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: the negotiating period, and sure enough a day after the 31 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: new league year begins, guys are in the building. I 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: can tell you Joey Bosa is in the building, everybody 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: I've seen, j Ashua Palmer as well. Derek Forrest just 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: signed his contract and met with the media. He's going 35 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: to join us in studio in just a few minutes. 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: But something that happened right after we went off air 37 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: yesterday Chris was the Bills agreeing to terms on a 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: trade that sends cornerback Kyer Elam and a twenty twenty 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: five sixth round pick to the Cowboys in exchange for 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: a twenty twenty five to fifth and a twenty twenty 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 2: six to seventh round pick. Elm played in twenty nine 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: games for Buffalo, making twelve starts. He had two interceptions 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: and eighty one tackles in his three year career. Kyer 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: Elam was a player that we were wondering, Okay, does 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: this cornerback get another opportunity because Russell Douglas is set 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: to become a free agent. How is it going to 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: work this season? And we know that Kaye is no 48 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: longer a part of this team, he's going to get 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: a new opportunity elsewhere. 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 6: Well. 51 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: Obviously, in that same draft, sixth rounder Christian Benford was 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: ultimately the corner that the Bills went into that draft 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: desperately needing. He's become an elite level player. We'll see 54 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 4: if the contract extension is on the horizon for him. 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: I think at this point this is the classic former 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: first rounder who didn't play to that level that just 57 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: needs a change of scenery. So hats off to Brandon 58 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 4: Bean and the entire Bills front office for still getting 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: two picks for Kyer Eloman, actually moving up from the 60 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: sixth round to the fifth round in this year's draft 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: for a player that certainly made plays, and if you're 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: watching on TV, has the interception in the playoff game 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: against the Steelers last year, has an interception of Patrick 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: Mahomes in the regular season on his resume, but never 65 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: quite fit with what the Bills wanted to do in 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: their secondary that was mostly zone heavy, and then when 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: he got an opportunity in the AFC title Game, didn't 68 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: play up to par with in man coverage that what 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: the Bills needed. This was very good general managing by 70 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: Brandon Bean to not just continue this disappointing pick, give 71 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: him a new head coach, a new city, a new 72 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator, and still get something in return to build 73 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: for the future. 74 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 7: Yeah. 75 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: I definitely think it's a win for both sides, especially 76 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: if the plan for Kayer Elon to keep him here 77 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: was maybe he's just gonna be a rotational guy. This 78 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: was a first round draft pick coming out of the 79 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two draft, drafted twenty third overall. I think 80 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: he deserves an opportunity elsewhere to try and make things work. 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: And I have the utmost respect for Elam. When he 82 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: was here, he was always so professional, always watching film 83 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: on his iPad in the locker room, and I think 84 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: was just a great person to be around. I spoke 85 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: about him earlier this week to Steve Tasker, and oftentimes 86 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: after practice he was working with the other dbs. He 87 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: had a great relationship with those guys, and it would 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: be easy for somebody like him who was drafted in 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: the first round to kind of be like, no, I'm 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: gonna go be by myself because I'm not getting the 91 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: playing time that I want. Instead, I think he was 92 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: a great asset to that room and handled things the 93 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: right way, which is not easy to do at a 94 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: young age. 95 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: He's still a young player in the NFL. 96 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 4: I think that was key in the Bills being able 97 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: to get something in return for kyer Elum. Had he pouted, 98 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: had there been reports that he wasn't putting in as 99 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 4: much film work as he needed, or was upset getting 100 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 4: in arguments with assistant coaches and position coaches that he 101 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: wasn't playing as much as he should as he felt 102 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: he should have been as a former first round pick. 103 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: I don't think this trade happens. I don't think the 104 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: Bills get a fifth and a seventh next year for 105 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: kyer Elam in the sixth. So yes, he is still young, 106 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: still in his early twenties, has the NFL pedigree with 107 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: his dad playing in the NFL, and everything from off 108 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: the field locker room work ethic ticked all the boxes 109 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 4: just didn't really work out with the Bills scheme again, 110 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: mostly a pressman corner coming to a zone heavier scheme 111 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 4: that's pretty complicated in s a lot of its defensive backs. 112 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: This is good for him and it's certainly good for 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: the Bills too, because it frees up two point five 114 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 4: seven million dollars on their cap. Had they just released him, 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: that would not have been the case. He would have 116 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: had dead money. Now that final year of his rookie 117 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: deal salary goes to the Dallas Cowboys and that is 118 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: off the books for the Bill. So this is you 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: can say, win win for Kyrielam and the Bills, but 120 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: it is also just a win win for Brandon Bean 121 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 4: to get a draft pick and to free up cap space. 122 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: The Bills now have eleven draft picks in this year's draft. 123 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see what the Bills decide to 124 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: do with that because now they have still ten. Now 125 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: they have three fifth rounders. Do you want to package 126 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: some of those and move up into the third round 127 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 2: where you don't have a pick right now? 128 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what seems to be glaring at this point 129 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 4: with picks one, six, nine, seventy one, seventy three, it 130 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: would be kind of I mean, we see it every 131 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: once in a while, but for a team to make 132 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 4: back to back selections is relatively rare. That is glaring. 133 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: They don't have a third rounder. We know they traded 134 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: back a bunch last year to get the third rounder 135 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: to pick Dwayne Carter. It feels like now at this point, 136 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 4: because they've been a little bit more active in free 137 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: agency two, there might not be ten spots on the 138 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: roster for rookies to make the team. And we know 139 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: from the history that Brandon Bean has had some sixth 140 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: and seventh rounders get poached almost immediately Alec Anderson or 141 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: the corner Alex Austin. I'm sorry, Alex Austin got picked 142 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: right away. A couple of offensive linemen got taken off 143 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: the practice squad. So I think Brandon Bean, it feels 144 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: like that would be a situation where if there's a 145 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: player that they like third fourth round that they wouldn't 146 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: be opposed to moving one of those extra fifths to 147 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: get up to move up to get that player. That's 148 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: kind of how you have to navigate the draft, get 149 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: those extra picks. If you're a rebuilding team to just 150 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 4: load your roster or have the amo to move up. 151 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: If you're a contender like the Bills. 152 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this question. 153 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: You are a draft guru with the picks that Buffalo has, 154 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: how do you evaluate how they head into this year's 155 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: draft right now? At ten picks and three that are 156 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: pretty high up there? 157 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have seven in the top one to seventy, 158 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: and to have the three in the top like sixty 159 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: makes our top seventy is huge for them. Like even 160 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: if they're not a team that's looking to fill a 161 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 4: lot of roster spots with those late round picks because 162 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: they have just a lot of star players on their roster, 163 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: the two second rounders is absolutely huge. They can address 164 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: still have a need a corner and now obviously trading 165 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: Kyrie Elam, they have a need there ye defensive tackle 166 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: even after signing Larry Ogunjobi or reportedly signing him, a 167 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: big body defensive tackle in what is a loaded class 168 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: that would make a lot of sense. So that Stefan 169 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 4: Diggs trade, we're reaping the rewards right now, like the 170 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 4: Bills are seeing that they don't have the dead cap 171 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: money anymore and they get that extra second rounder from Houston, 172 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: that will really bode well for this team really reloading 173 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: its roster in twenty twenty five. 174 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: All right, our question for you today, what has been 175 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: your favorite Bills free agents signing so far? There have 176 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: been several in Christen's you haven't been on with me 177 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: yet this weekend. Some moves have been made since you 178 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: were on on Monday. What is your favorite free agent signing? 179 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 6: For? 180 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: Mine is Michael Hoyt? And we can ask our producer 181 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: Jay Harris that there is proof to this. Before I 182 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: was on Monday, I wasn't sure if the Bills were 183 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: going to sign any players or if we were going 184 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 4: to ask that very question. Sent him an email and said, look, 185 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: if we talk about the free agents or potential free agents, 186 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: who like these are my top five that I realistically 187 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: think the Bills could sign. Michael Hoyt was at number one. 188 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: I thought he was the guy that absolutely was a 189 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 4: perfect fit for what the Bills want to do. They 190 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: want to get more athletic. It feels like on the 191 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 4: defensive line, former defensive tackle turned edge rusher, very reminiscent 192 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 4: of Lorenzo Alexander, who was a defensive tackle in the NFL, 193 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: very athletic slimmed him down. Then he was this do 194 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: everything front seven player for the Bills and was a 195 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 4: great pressure creator sac guy. Michael Hoyt is that type 196 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: of player. He plays with a lot of power, a 197 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: lot of handwork at the point of attack, and you 198 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: can align him anywhere. He played seventy nine snaps at 199 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: linebacker and thirty three snaps at slot corner last year, 200 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 4: so they put him out as a slot defender. Yes, 201 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: he plays literally everywhere. They trust his athleticism, and I 202 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: think he gives defensive coordinator Bobby Babbage so much more creativity. 203 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 4: You can have plans for creativity as a decordinator, but 204 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 4: you need the horses. You need the guys who are 205 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 4: capable to sink in coverage if they're playing defensive end, 206 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 4: or maybe reduce inside if they're gonna play defensive tackle 207 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: in a passing situation. That's what I liked so much 208 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: about watching Michael Hoyt's film with the Los Angeles Rams 209 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: and thought he was such a great fit for a 210 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: team that needed more reinforcement along its defensive line. 211 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: I watched a few highlights for Michael Hoyt, and what 212 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: jumps off the film right away. For Michael Hoyt is 213 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: his motor. It seems like this is a guy who's 214 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: going to try his hardest, give you one hundred and 215 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: ten percent on every single play. And then you start 216 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: to peel back the layers on how he came to 217 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: be an NFL player, and he was undrafted out of 218 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: Brown Hoyt was a practice squad player, turned into a 219 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: special teamer, turned into a starter with the Rams, and 220 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: so this guy has had to prove himself every single 221 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: step of the way, and it shows up with the 222 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: way he plays on tape, that motor, that that determination 223 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: of I'm going to prove you wrong, I'm going to 224 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: prove that. 225 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: I can be a difference maker on the field. 226 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 4: And doesn't this just feel like the classic Bills player, 227 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: Yes to go from you know, it just fits with 228 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 4: Buffalo so well, of like this underrated city and this 229 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 4: underrated player that slowly worked his way up. And we 230 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: always hear Sean McDermot and Brandon Bean say, oh, earn 231 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 4: your keep on special teams first, or we're going to 232 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: keep this player because of his special team's ability. That's 233 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: literally exactly what you just pointed out that he did 234 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: in Los Ange list with the Rams, that he was 235 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 4: a great special teamer, and they said, all right, we're 236 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: going to give you some snaps. Let's slim down a 237 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: little bit and play defensive end on a very good 238 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: defensive line where I think he took some from Aaron 239 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: Donald and from last year Jared Verse and Kobe Turner, 240 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 4: who was the backup or the runner up to the 241 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 4: defensive Rookie of the Year in twenty three. Handwork leverage 242 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 4: angles all of those things into a very physically imposing 243 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: athletic body that used to carry three hundred and ten 244 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 4: pounds in college and is now only two seventy. He 245 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: is just the consummate overachiever. 246 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: So the Bills add like a senior defensive assistant in 247 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: Ryan Nielsen, who's going to help be over the defensive 248 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: line unit. You have an addition in Michael Hoyt to 249 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 2: this team as well as Joey Bosa and Larry Ogunjobi. 250 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: As you look at Buffalo's defensive line, what does the 251 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: picture look like to you right now with these new 252 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: A diitions. 253 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 4: It's exactly what Sean McDermott and the Bills have seemingly 254 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 4: loved to do that be the most rotation heavy defensive 255 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: line in the entire NFL and that you're throwing Greg 256 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: Russo signing the extension, aj Epanessa, who's just been a 257 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: steady force, mostly a run defender. And then Larry Ogunjobi, 258 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 4: who I think is interesting in that he's not that 259 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: starletoul Lay or that Quentin Jefferson or that Jordan Phillips. 260 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 4: At six three and three oh five, he gets up 261 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 4: the field, he moves very well for his size. He 262 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: can give the Bills more juice, and I think that's 263 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: something that's been missing outside of at Oliver. We had 264 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: the you know, early season twenty twenty three with Daikwon 265 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: Jones where he was generating some plush before he got injured. 266 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: The Bills have really lacked that secondary guy. They tried 267 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: it with Tim Settle, he flashed a little bit. Larry 268 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: Ogunjobi gives them that, So I think it's exactly what 269 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: the Bills want. They want to be super deep. They 270 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: like to have veterans up front. You even have Duane 271 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: Carter coming up waiting in the wings a little bit 272 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 4: now entering year two. It's a defense that I still 273 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: think does need that three hundred and twenty plus pounder. Okay, 274 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 4: but besides that they are a lot of themselves to 275 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: rotate a lot. It didn't even mention Joey Bosa, but 276 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: we know that that's where he's probably best served. At 277 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: twenty five to forty to forty five percent of the snaps. 278 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: They're going to rotate and be fresh in the fourth 279 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 4: quarter of games and in the fourth quarter of the season. 280 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: That's what we were talking about yesterday, me and Steve 281 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: with Joey Bosa. You think about the role that von 282 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: Miller played in this defense this past season and him 283 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: getting back to feeling like more like himself. But with 284 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: the age she's at, you want to get the best 285 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: out of him, and you know you probably can't play 286 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: a big bulk of every single game and we're gonna 287 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: get the von Miller that we know and love, So 288 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: let's figure out how he can do that. And I 289 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: think they figured that out by the end of the season, 290 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: and he was affecting the quarterback by the end of 291 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: the season pretty consistently. Do you envision something similar to 292 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: that with Joey Bosa how he's used one percent? 293 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: But I do think we have to go with this 294 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 4: caveat and that Von Miller four or five years older 295 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: than Joey Bosa and last season Von played about twenty 296 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 4: five percent of the Bill snaps. Bosa last season and 297 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: started with an injury, but finished without an injury, so 298 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: he's not coming off an injury. I don't think that 299 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 4: was brought up enough nationally. Oh, you know, injury concern, 300 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: injury risk, twenty two and twenty three injuries, but last 301 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: year not. He played forty three percent of the snaps 302 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 4: for the Chargers down the stretch, Joey Bosa in seven 303 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: of his last nine games, including the wild card loss 304 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: of the Texans, seven of nine games with three or 305 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: more pressure. So it started to ramp up for him 306 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: as well. When I think he settled into that role 307 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: and the Chargers defensive coaches had a pretty good idea, 308 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: all right, here's when we're gonna mix and match him 309 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 4: personnel wise. We're not gonna have him play even sixty 310 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 4: or seventy percent of the snaps and to be a 311 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: forty to forty five percent of the snap player as 312 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: an edge rusher the Bills, that's probably where they want 313 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 4: him anyway, and where he proved down the stretch that 314 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: he can still be the same Joey Bosa that we've 315 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: seen earlier in his Chargers career. 316 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: And the big question with him, and like you said, 317 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: he's not coming off of an injury right now, so 318 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: that bodes very well for Joey Bosa and his off 319 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,359 Speaker 2: season to just get to work, start learning this defense. 320 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: Just just sit in this defense, learn from some of 321 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: your new teammates. Be here in the off season. You 322 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about rehabbing from an injury. But 323 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: injuries have been a big part of his past. And 324 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: I know Bills fans and people covering the Bills in 325 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: the media and even myself. You think about a player 326 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: like him who has had some injuries and what we 327 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,239 Speaker 2: went through with Von Miller, which he started off amazing 328 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: for Buffalo and then unfortunately got hurt and took kind 329 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: of a year to come back and be more like himself. 330 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: We know we need some additions to this defensive line 331 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: to really help this group close in big games. Hopefully 332 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: Joey can be standing there in the playoffs and in 333 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: Week seventeen healthy. 334 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I said it earlier. I think the biggest 335 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: takeaway that I've had from this free agent period is 336 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 4: that the Bills want to get more athletic along their 337 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: entire defensive line from the interior with Larry Ogunjobi, who 338 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: isn't his bigg as Jordan Phillips isn't his biggest Quinton Jefferson, 339 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: but has more juice Joey Bosa, you could, I mean, 340 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 4: these are two Hall of Fame type players, Joey Bosa 341 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 4: von Miller, but Joey Bosa at twenty nine has more 342 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: burst and bend and dippability than von Miller at thirty 343 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 4: four years old. So I And then then with Michael Hoyt, 344 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: he gives you that versatility of where is he playing. 345 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: He's really athletic. If he's inside at defensive tackle, he's 346 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 4: very athletic for a two hundred and seventy pound edge rusher. 347 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: That and I'm I'm saying that as a segue off 348 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: what you just mentioned because they need to get to 349 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 4: the quarterback quicker in the playoffs, that when you're facing 350 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: a Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert or whoever. 351 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: There's so many good quarterbacks in the AFC, they understand 352 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: that this is a really strong Bill's defense. They're gonna 353 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: confuse you in the secondary with disguised coverages. They're gonna 354 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 4: try to get the ball out quick under two and 355 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: a half seconds. And I think there were times down 356 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: the stretch and then in that AFC title game where 357 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 4: they would get close to Patrick Mahomes but not quite 358 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 4: get there. Even in the AFC Title Game in twenty twenty, 359 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: not quite get to him, not quite affect him enough. 360 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 4: It took a little bit too long to get there. 361 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 4: With Ogunjobi and Hoyt and Bosa, you have a little 362 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: bit more of that explosion that is so vital today 363 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: in the NFL, with quarterbacks just getting the ball out 364 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: of their hands faster than ever before. 365 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: We have three new defensive linemen that are going to 366 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: be signing their deals here to truly become a Buffalo 367 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: Bill over the next few days. But I don't think 368 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 2: they're done yet at the defensive line position. And I 369 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: look to the draft when I'm saying that, because we've 370 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: heard over and over again, man, this defensive tackle group 371 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: is something special. I can't remember the last time where 372 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: we had this much depth in a defensive tackle group 373 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: in the NFL draft. You say they need a big guy, 374 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: Can they go get that in the draft? 375 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. With one of those two second rounders would 376 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 4: not be surprising. Even if they wanted to pick it 377 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: at pick thirty, that would make a lot of sense. 378 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 4: The depth is there, though. That's what makes me think 379 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: that if they want to address corner, if just a 380 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 4: really good player at another position falls and they have 381 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 4: him grated higher, that they ultimately go in that direction. 382 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 4: They don't have to rush that pick per se because 383 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: of the depth. And certainly Brandon Bean and those that 384 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: are making those decisions within the Bills organization know that. 385 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: But I think at that point you would have a 386 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: good mix of a rookie at Oliver who's the upfield 387 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 4: veteran you have doing Carter who kind of can do everything. 388 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 4: He's a little bit undersized but got some of that 389 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 4: experience under his belt, and then a lot of the 390 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 4: other guys on the edges that are established veterans on 391 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 4: this team. You don't want too many youngsters. You don't 392 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: want too many guys thirty thirty one years old. The 393 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 4: Bills would have a good blend of youth, upside and 394 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: experience along their defensive line. 395 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: And as you look at what Buffalo has done to 396 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: add to their roster through for agencies so far, how 397 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: do you think they're setting themselves up for that first 398 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: pick that they have in the draft. 399 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 4: Well, right now, I have to say cornerback, because they 400 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 4: have not signed they have not resigned any of their 401 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 4: own they have not signed an outside free agent at 402 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 4: corner That is a glaring knee. They just traded Kyrie Elam. 403 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: Like you mentioned that, some people thought maybe he was 404 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 4: in line to get a bigger role in twenty five. 405 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 4: Christian Benford still under contract obviously, but no, he's like 406 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: the one notable I mean outside of James Cook. He's 407 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: one of two notable players entering his final season of 408 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: his contract without that extension of sub Bernard and Shakira 409 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 4: and Rousseau. So it would have to be cornerback. And 410 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 4: to me it feels like back and back. Five to 411 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: ten picks into the first round, early in the second 412 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: that's where I think a lot of the top corners 413 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 4: in this class will ultimately go. There's Travis Hunter at 414 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: the top, and he's his own beast. Besides that, there's 415 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: some injury concerns with the Michigan corner Will Johnson, Ben 416 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 4: Morrison from Notre Dame, Savon Revel from East Carolina. They 417 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 4: have injuries, but they have premier tape. It feels like 418 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: they could be one of the selections at you know, 419 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 4: thirty thirty one to thirty two. 420 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: Overall, the Bills didn't just go defense so far in 421 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: free agency. They also added to their offense, agreeing to 422 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: terms on a three year deal with wide receiver Joshua Palmer, 423 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: who comes to Buffalo from the Chargers. This wide receiver 424 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: is known for being a separator, somebody who can beat 425 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: man coverage. How does Joshua Palmer fit in Buffalo's offense? 426 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 4: Man? Is this a needed addition to this offense? And 427 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: that is seems crazy to say that after the Bills 428 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 4: set up franchise record in points and the thirty touchdowns 429 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 4: through the air and on the ground, unstoppable at times offensively. 430 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: But the glaring weakness to this team that did I 431 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: think show up in the AFC title game was the 432 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: inability collectively to beat man coverage or just have that 433 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: one guy that's Stefan Diggs type who you can trust 434 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 4: that can get open against pressman in a pressure situation. 435 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: And josh Palmer that's where he thrived. Now, it was 436 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 4: a lower value than a Stefan Diggs. He was not 437 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: a fifty to sixty to seventy eighty catch player had 438 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 4: Keenan Allen, there had Mike Williams. But can win on 439 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 4: the inside, can win on the outside and down the 440 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 4: field at like six one two hundred and ten pounds 441 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: with like documented you know, with the next gen stats 442 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: and the average separation score the eighth best among qualifying 443 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 4: receivers last season against man coverage. Overall, just a quality 444 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 4: separator like you mentioned. He brings not the volume, and 445 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: that's probably why the Bills didn't have to pay an 446 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 4: exorbitant price to get him, but he brings precisely what 447 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: the Bills needed. A niche outside player, wins down the field, 448 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 4: back shoulder, and like you mentioned, can get open against 449 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: man coverage. 450 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: I think one thing for Palmer as well is that 451 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 2: he's a younger player. See is entering I think the 452 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: prime of his career. And you look back at what 453 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: he did with the Chargers, and he was in a 454 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 2: room full of some talent and wide receivers. You said 455 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen. He also had coaching changes when he was there. 456 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: You get there, your rookie season, your rookie year is 457 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: all about learning the offense. How can I fit in here, 458 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: how does my quarterback operate? And then your second year 459 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: is when you really start to blossom. And then he 460 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: faces a head coaching change last year with Jim Harbaugh 461 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: coming into the picture. That's a new offense that you're learning. 462 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: I think coming to Buffalo, what Joshua Palmer is gonna 463 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: get is steadiness. You get a quarterback who's not going 464 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: to change, you get a coaching staff who's not going 465 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: to change for the foreseeable future, and you understand your 466 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: role right away. 467 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. What I like about him too is the you're 468 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: mentioning just the steadiness, the well roundedness. To be a 469 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: third round pick and to come in have thirty three 470 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: catches for over three hundred and fifty yards as a 471 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 4: rookie with all those veterans round, that's a sign that 472 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 4: he was pro ready. There wasn't oh man, he just 473 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 4: really couldn't make an impact. Then in the year or 474 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 4: two he goes over seventy catches and it's like this 475 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 4: guy is really big jump. That's a huge jump into 476 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 4: year two. The last two seasons not as much volume, 477 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: but back to back years for josh Palmer with a 478 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: yard's perception average over fifteen so they I think they 479 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: kind of said, all right, he is best in that 480 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: to use a Bills example in that Gabe Davis down 481 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 4: the field role, that if they wanted to throw him 482 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 4: screens and shallow crosses, he can be that seventy catch 483 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 4: guy that he was in year two. I don't think 484 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 4: the Bills are necessarily hoping that he's that underneath guy 485 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 4: that catches seventy passes. They would take forty fifty catches, 486 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: seven hundred, eight hundred and nine hundred yards four or 487 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: five six touchdowns and you kind of think of that 488 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: Josh Allen boost. That's why I'm so bullish on the 489 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 4: Bills signing this twenty five year old player, because he 490 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: settled into that downfield role and really excelled with separation 491 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: and making catches in traffic downfield. 492 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be exciting to see how he 493 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: fits with a quarterback like josh Allen. And I told 494 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker that Joshua Palmer and I we spent time 495 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 2: together at Tennessee when I worked there. So we were 496 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: there for two years and he went on a leadership 497 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: trip to Africa with a bunch of other student athletes. 498 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to join them in Africa. So 499 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: I got to I ran into Palmer earlier today, right 500 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: after he was meeting with some of our weight room coaches, 501 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: and I was like, Oh my gosh, so good to 502 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 2: see you. I can't believe you're here. And this is true. 503 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: In the back of my mind, I always wondered, man, 504 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 2: I could see him fitting in here. He just makes 505 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: sense for the type of wide receiver he is, especially 506 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: after the Bills moved on from Stefon Diggs. 507 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: Not that Steph was just a big, go ball guy. 508 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: He did way more than that for the offense, but 509 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: kind of seeing how the roles filled out last year, 510 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: wondering more this year, could this be the year that 511 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: Joshua Palmer comes to Buffalo. I just know him as 512 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: a person. I think he fits inside of this locker 513 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: room that Bills DNA that you talked about how Michael 514 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: Hoyt kind of fits that picture. I think Palmer fits 515 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: that perfectly as well. You saw the picture up on 516 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: the screen of our group in Africa. 517 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: It was a leadership trip. 518 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: It was it was all about learning how to lead 519 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: as an up and coming junior or senior on your 520 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: team and how you can better your leader skills, and 521 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: I think he was that at Tennessee, and I know 522 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: he did that with the Chargers as well once he 523 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: started to kind of feel comfortable in La. 524 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: Well, I'm just going back to when I was on 525 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 4: Monday and to Rol Bernard was sitting right over there, 526 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 4: and we talked a little x's and o's about you know, 527 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: the interception against the Texans and how cool that was. 528 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: He really mentioned so much and stressed the importance of 529 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 4: the camaraderie and the belief and the really the brotherhood 530 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 4: that they have in the locker room. Now, do I 531 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: think the Bills are just signing really nice guys and 532 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: hoping that they feel like feel the good team. No, 533 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 4: I think nice come here, Yeah exactly. But I think 534 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 4: that they understand that the locker room culture and that 535 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: we've seen so many free agents come in and out 536 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 4: of Buffalo, they always afterward are like my favorite place 537 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 4: to play was in Buffalo those two seasons, three seasons, 538 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 4: four seasons. Being able to gel with others, to be 539 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 4: a leader, to be just someone that can become close 540 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: with other receivers or the cornerback room or your wide 541 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 4: receiver coach. That certainly factors in it and if you 542 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 4: can say that from knowing him before he was in 543 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: the NFL, that probably was something that was a little 544 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: footnote on this on this free agent before the Bills 545 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 4: ultimately signed him. 546 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: Definitely, and I mean him coming to Buffalo. The other 547 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 2: tie here is he's from Brampton, Ontario, which is I 548 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: talked to him today and I was like, are you 549 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: two hours away from home? 550 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 7: What is? 551 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: He goes about an hour forty from home? He went 552 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: to He moved to Florida from Canada to play high 553 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: school football at Saint Thomas Aquinas, which is a huge football. 554 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 4: High schoo That's where Joey Bosa went. 555 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: That's where Joey Bosa went to. I don't know if 556 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 3: they overlapped at all. 557 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: I don't think they did, because Bosa was definitely older 558 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: than Joshua Palmer maybe but anyways, maybe maybe Nick, but anyways, 559 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: Palmer says, it's so nice to be closer to home. 560 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: All my family is still there too. 561 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 4: That's that's super cool. And how about Michael Hoyt also 562 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 4: from Ontario, Southern Ontario. What are the chances that the 563 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 4: Bill's first two free agents they signed from Canada and 564 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: grew up twenty minutes apart from each other. Yeah, that 565 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 4: is so weird. 566 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: That is wild. 567 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: All Right, we're going to take a break, but when 568 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: we return, we'll dive into a few more of these 569 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: new additions to Buffalo's roster, and Derek Forrest is going 570 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: to join us on the show in just a bit. 571 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere where. One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. 572 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: All Right, we're back here. 573 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live discussing all the new additions to 574 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. One player that we didn't get to 575 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: yet was a safety. Derek Forrest comes to the Bills 576 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: from Washington on a one year deal that he already 577 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: signed today. Has played in forty games, started in seventeen. 578 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: His best season came in twenty twenty two when he 579 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: had four interceptions. How does Derek Forrest fit into Buffalo's defense? 580 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 4: This is right up my alley because not a lot 581 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 4: of people knew about him, and I have all this, 582 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: like I have a treasure trove of like what I 583 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 4: feel is useless information. Being a drafted guys get drafted, yeah, 584 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 4: or like a guy goes undrafted, or he's a fifth 585 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: founder like Derek Forrest was, and he doesn't play a lot. 586 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I know so much about this guy, 587 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 4: but he's not really on the field much. Well, you 588 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 4: mentioned twenty twenty two four interceptions, nine pass breakups, eighty 589 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: eight tackles. That's that's exactly. That's the player that I 590 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: saw at Cincinnati in that secondary with Sauce Gardner, with 591 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: Brian Cook the chief safety. He is a true free 592 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: safety five to eleven, around two hundred pounds, so maybe 593 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 4: a little shorter than you would like at the position, 594 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 4: but plus ball skills. He finds the football frequently, knows 595 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 4: when it's arriving, will make plays on it routinely. He 596 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: did it in college and what I like legitimate speed. 597 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: He adds more explosiveness to the defense. He ran four 598 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 4: to four to three in the twenty twenty one or 599 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: at his pro day. I don't think there was a 600 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: combine that year because of COVID, but four four to 601 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 4: three speed and showed up in that season in twenty 602 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: twenty two under Ron Rivera. So I wonder was there 603 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 4: a phone call between Ron Rivera and Sean McDermott do 604 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 4: you sign off on this player? I loved him as 605 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 4: a prospect, and I think for the money. The Bill's 606 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: got a great safety in Derek Force. 607 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned that connection with Ron Rivera. You think 608 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: that Sean McDermott. Ron Rivera had to connect at some 609 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: point on this and joining our show right now one 610 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: of Buffalo's newest members of their team. It's safety Derek forres. Derek, 611 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: thanks for coming on the show man. 612 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 8: I appreciate you'all for having me. 613 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: This is one Bill's live. 614 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: By the way, we are a daily show that we 615 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: run out of our facilities, which is awesome. We're live 616 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: one to three every day. Just because it's the off 617 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: season doesn't. 618 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: Mean that we go away. 619 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: It's been a busy week, busy week for you as well. 620 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: You're finally in Buffalo. How have the last few hours 621 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: been for you. 622 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 9: It's been amazing. I've been open with I mean, I'm 623 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 9: being welcome with open arms. They've been great smiles on 624 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 9: everyone's faces. They're so nice. I'd love you here. 625 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 4: Okay, So I originally am a draft analyst, and I 626 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: remember watching you with Cincinnati with Sauce Gardner and Brian 627 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 4: Cook and those really good Cincinnati teams. What can you 628 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 4: say about the fact that you have the big year 629 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: in your second season, didn't play quite as much. How 630 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: were you able to handle that? And if you're not 631 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: someone that's gonna come in be the full time eighty 632 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 4: percent of the step starter. How important is it to 633 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 4: always be ready in case your number is called? 634 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 9: If I've learned anything in this league, it's to absolutely 635 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 9: be ready at all times. I remember last year there 636 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 9: was a game we woke up. 637 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 8: I didn't. 638 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 9: I had like one or two snaps during the week 639 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 9: in practice, and I woke up on game day and I. 640 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 8: Was a starter. So my gosh, that's so important. 641 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 9: To always be locked in, always pay attention, you know, 642 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 9: know the game plan, be ready for anything, because you'll 643 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 9: never know what happened in this league. 644 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: Okay, before, just before you came out, and we were 645 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: talking about Ron Rivera his connection to Sean McDermott. Did 646 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: Ron talk to you at all about Buffalo? Was there 647 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: any connection between those two before you came to Buffalo? 648 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 9: Ron didn't talk to me, but they told me about 649 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 9: the connection and I didn't know that. And it's definitely awesome, 650 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 9: you know, to have guys back in me and know 651 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 9: how I play, and to tell people you know exactly 652 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 9: what type of person I am. 653 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna go back to my draft roots again. 654 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: I thought you were a great true free safety, which 655 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 4: is pretty hard to find. But you can tell me 656 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 4: where where do you think your strengths are specifically as 657 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 4: a player. Is it ranging from the deep middle? Is 658 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: it running the alley on and outside run? Is it 659 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: as a tackler? Where can you tell fans where they're 660 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 4: going to see you make the most plays? 661 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 9: My nick is like getting the ball, something about having 662 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 9: the ball, you know, running with the ball. You know, 663 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 9: I was an offensive player, but I switched the defense 664 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 9: when I realized that I didn't want to be getting 665 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 9: hit every play. You know, I ready to go Ladwood 666 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 9: and you know, then beat the nail. So I definitely love, 667 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 9: you know, just getting to the ball, doing whatever I 668 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 9: can to get the ball. I love playing strong safety 669 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 9: because the thing is when I get in a post 670 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 9: at free safety, they test me, and the thing is 671 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 9: I got arranged and that's where I get my interceptions at. 672 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 8: So I love it. 673 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: You talk about your explosiveness that twenty twenty two season 674 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: where you had four interception for interceptions. What went so 675 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: right for you that season and why do you want 676 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: to bring that year to Buffalo. 677 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 9: The thing that went right for me is that I 678 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 9: had dudes in front of me that pushed every single 679 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 9: day to compete and get better. 680 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 8: Because I started the Jaguar. 681 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 9: Game and I got an interception that game, and I 682 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 9: only started because a guy toward likam in his stomach 683 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 9: and I was the guy behind him, and I was ready, 684 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 9: and I went out there and I played my heart out, 685 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 9: and that's when people started to notice me. So it's 686 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 9: just so important to really be ready, you know, and 687 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 9: compete at all times. 688 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 4: My thought for you on this team is that again 689 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: maybe not going to be handed a job right away, 690 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 4: and the Bill's coaching staff at GM has said, like, 691 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if you're a first rounder, if you're 692 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: a free agent signee, everyone's going to compete for jobs. 693 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 4: What did you see from Afar or have you noticed 694 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 4: from this Bills organization what they've been able to do 695 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 4: at the safety position that maybe helped you say, yeah, 696 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna sign that contract with the Bills. 697 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 9: They've been able to develop safeties at a high level, 698 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 9: especially I'll say of like the last six years, you know, 699 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 9: it's been great. They had great safeties come in and 700 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 9: play and even the guys behind them that come in 701 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 9: and play it played great, man, So I can't wait 702 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 9: to get to it. 703 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, this defense, especially last year and even the year before, 704 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: they faced lots of injuries to their secondary and it 705 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, now another safety or corner is down, 706 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: and the guys who step up in their absence may 707 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: not be first rounders or second rounders. Some of them 708 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: were undrafted, some of them were fifth rounders, but they 709 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: were so ready for the opportunity and made explosive play. 710 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: So you talk about how this staff has been able 711 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: to develop guys, and we see it every single season. 712 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: In deciding that Buffalo was the place you wanted to go, 713 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: what were your conversations like with the coaching staff and 714 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: with our scouting scouting. 715 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 9: Department, I definitely wanted opportunity, And then after opportunity, I 716 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 9: knew that I wanted to be on a great team. 717 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 7: You know. 718 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 9: You can tell that they have a great culture around here, 719 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 9: love to win. The people are great, and that's something 720 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 9: I wanted to be a part of. Man, it just 721 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 9: allows you to come in every day and love what 722 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 9: you do. You know, love coming to work, and I 723 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 9: feel like it's a job all right. 724 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: I mentioned early sauce guardner Brian Cook. You play with 725 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: two great secondary guys there in Cincinnati. How important you 726 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 4: mentioned that you can't wait to get to it. Can 727 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 4: you explain as someone that has so many responsibilities at 728 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: the safety spot, you're playing free safety, you playing strong safety, 729 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 4: even in the slot at corner. Explain how important it 730 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 4: is to understand and get to know your teammates, not 731 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 4: even just off the field, but also on the field 732 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 4: to be able to play off a Christian Benford at 733 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 4: corner or Damar Hamlin at the other safety spot or 734 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 4: Taylor rep. How important is it to really have communication 735 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 4: on the back end. 736 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 9: It's very important because at the end of the day, 737 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 9: people they don't see when you know, the things up 738 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 9: front breakdown, but in the back end, when things break down, 739 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 9: that's the first thing that they're going to notice, you know. 740 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 9: So it's so important to be on the same page, 741 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 9: to have trust, you know, to have that you know, 742 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 9: everything just going together for us to go out there 743 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 9: and play fast, play smooth, you know, play confident. 744 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: Derek, there's also a person behind the jersey that you're 745 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: gonna wear. 746 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 3: What is Zeric Forrest like as. 747 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 8: A person I'm a very happy person. Man. 748 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 9: I love the smile. I love to just have fun. 749 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 9: I love to be around great people. 750 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 8: Man. 751 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 9: You know, I can definitely feel the energy around here, 752 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 9: and it's a lot of great people. 753 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 7: Man. 754 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 8: I like to cut hair, you know, I play video games. 755 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 9: I do everything, man like, if y'all want to, I 756 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 9: got to write it down because I do so much stuff. Man. 757 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 4: All right, last one for me. Are you ready to 758 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 4: eat way more wings than you've ever eaten in your life? 759 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 4: Are you a big wing guy already? Can you just 760 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 4: give us your your general sense on buffalo wings and 761 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 4: your experience with them up until now. 762 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 8: My favorite wing, I'm going to order buffalo. 763 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 7: You know. 764 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 9: If it's not buffalo, then it's hot wing. So I 765 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 9: love wings, you know, Man, A lot of people barbecue guys. Man, 766 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 9: I'm not a barbecue guy. I'm a buffalo guy, you know, 767 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 9: like a little spicy man. 768 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: Derek, you're in the right place for wings. You spoke 769 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: about cutting hair, doing a lot of things. My wheels 770 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: are churning of players. Who I think you're gonna vibe with. 771 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: One of those guys is JaMarcus Ingram, who also likes 772 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 2: to cut hair in his free time. Well, some times 773 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 2: do it in the fieldhouse after practice. He'll help some 774 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 2: guys with haircuts and also just has a running list 775 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: of random things that he loves to do and random 776 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: things that he's really good at. He wrote a children's 777 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: book this offseason. So somebody who's going to be near 778 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: you and in the defensive backs units. So excited for 779 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: you to get to meet him and everybody else in 780 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 2: this building. But we just want to say a big 781 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: welcome to Buffalo to you. We're so excited for having 782 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: for you to join this defense. 783 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 8: Thank you so much, and I appreciate you all for 784 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 8: having me here. 785 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 3: Awesome. 786 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 2: That was Derek Forres joining us on One Bill's Live. 787 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 2: We're going to take a break, but be right back 788 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: here where One Bill's Live. We're presented by Colida Health 789 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 2: on Buffalo for you. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. 790 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 2: Maddi glab and Chris Terpasso here giving you the news 791 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: for today. And we just had new Bill safety Derek 792 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: Forrest who joined us on the show. It was great 793 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 2: to hear a little bit more from him. I love 794 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 2: his attitude, I love how he views himself on the field, 795 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 2: an explosive type of player who just wants to force turnovers. 796 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 4: And his vibe was great too. I mean you mentioned 797 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 4: it at the end of that interview, like, you know, 798 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 4: being part of the locker room. He seems like he's 799 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 4: gonna fit right in and be that playful guy that 800 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 4: is focused but also keeps it loose at times. 801 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 7: You know. 802 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 4: I think the Bills teams have been at their best 803 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 4: when they're having snowball fights after practice and it's not 804 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 4: everything so rigid and robotic, and I think it's almost 805 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 4: a trickle down effect from Josh Allen, like your quarterback. Yes, 806 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 4: teams can kind of take the shape of the head 807 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 4: coach or the quarterback. And we know that Sean McDermott 808 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 4: has gotten less robotic over the years and that's bowed 809 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 4: very well for this team. So he just from the 810 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: two minutes that we talked to him, he seems like 811 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 4: a high energy, good vibe type of player and I 812 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 4: think he can really play that free safety position. 813 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll definitely be in the to compete for a spot. 814 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: That's a position group already that I'm going to be 815 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: very interested to see how things take shape take form 816 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: as we approach April twenty first, when players report back 817 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 2: here for workouts, but then when mini camps begin, and 818 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: then when we get into training camp where it's true 819 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: time to compete for a starting role. 820 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 4: And like you mentioned those four interceptions and we were 821 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 4: rolling the b roll on TV, those four interceptions in 822 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two were no fluke like. He showed his 823 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 4: range from the deep middle. He said, that's what he 824 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 4: likes to do. If I kind of asked him, what's 825 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 4: your strength, he said, taking away the football. I think 826 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 4: a lot of safeties want to do a lot of 827 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 4: things well because that's just a position that has so 828 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 4: much responsibility today. He did at Cincinnati, he did it 829 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 4: when he was a full time starter, and got that 830 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 4: opportunity in Washington on a good team with Ron Rivera, 831 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 4: a defensive minded coach, and then obviously last year with 832 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 4: Dan Quinn getting as far as the Bills did in 833 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 4: their respective conference. He's won and that I think will 834 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 4: outplay what is a pretty modest contract, young in the 835 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 4: prime of his career, Like we talked about with Josh Palmer, 836 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 4: Derek for is certainly a name that maybe not a 837 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 4: lot of Bills fans knew immediately because he wasn't a 838 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 4: full time player last year, but I think one that 839 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 4: they will know come September, October, and November. 840 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 2: The Bills were at the top of the league in 841 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: takeaways last year thirty two, ranked third in the NFL, 842 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: had the best turnover differential in the NFL. 843 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,959 Speaker 3: You think about putting a. 844 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 2: Player like that into what Buffalo already did last season, 845 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 2: and you gotta think if Bobby Babbage got that many 846 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 2: takeaways out of that group, they want to bring it 847 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 2: back for twenty twenty five and see what they can do. 848 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 4: And they have a four to four to three free 849 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 4: safety now who's twenty five years old. They have at least, 850 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 4: like I said earlier, with Michael Hoyt and Bobby Babbage, 851 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 4: wanting to do specific things up front, to utilize players 852 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 4: in different roles, different pre snap alignments. You can say 853 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 4: we want to run this cover three or this complex 854 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 4: blitz with this coverage behind it if you don't have 855 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 4: someone that can range to the football routinely. And I 856 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 4: don't really think the Bills, even in their primes, Michael 857 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 4: Hyde and Jordan Poyer were not for low for four 858 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 4: type players. They didn't run that fast coming out of 859 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 4: the combine. Forrest has that elite level range for the position. 860 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 4: So we'll see if it ultimately takes shape on the 861 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 4: field and if he can grasp the playbook. But now 862 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 4: Bobby Babbage has someone on the back end who really 863 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 4: has that juice to even if it's not a perfect 864 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 4: play or there's a really fast wide receiver, he can 865 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 4: close that gap, force pass breakups and intercept the football. 866 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 3: I like that a lot. 867 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the phone lines to Butch 868 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 2: from the east side. Butch, you're joining us now, how 869 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 2: are you doing? 870 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 10: Butch the Queen of w GR MSG Maddie, I love you, 871 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 10: and guess what, supersub my boy, Chris track Mode, Chris Trapp. 872 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 6: You know I love both of y'all. But I love MSG, 873 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 6: I love WG I and all the fans around the 874 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 6: world who lists And I definitely love your yalldy know that. 875 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 6: Let me get right to the point. I want to 876 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 6: go right back to a big baller being on the 877 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 6: move about elm every for the last two years, you 878 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,479 Speaker 6: guys know, people have been saying why is he still here? 879 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,479 Speaker 6: At the same exact time they kept saying, we gonna 880 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 6: give them opportunity. To give them opportunity. Let me tell 881 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 6: you what this gentleman just did. That people kind of 882 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 6: sleeping on. But I want everybody to understand when you 883 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 6: cook out on the summertime, you have to marinate your meat. 884 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 6: Marinate this. He took Kyrie Elm and since them in 885 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 6: Dallas for a fifth round pick and the seventh round 886 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 6: pick in twenty twenty six in return. In return, he 887 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 6: got a fifth of crushing, He got a fifth and 888 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 6: a seven. He gave up a sixth and Kyrie at 889 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 6: the same time. Now pay attention, he is two point 890 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 6: six million dollars that was saved on the Cat two 891 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 6: point six. He hired a guy who we already loved 892 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 6: named Damar Hamler for two million dollars. That's six hundred 893 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 6: thousand extra saved on the Cat. Plus at the same time, 894 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 6: he got a fifth and a seventh, but he gave 895 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 6: up a sixth. You guys knowing in like trap, what 896 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 6: you just what did you just tell my guy from 897 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 6: the Washington Redskins, the Washington Commanders who you were when 898 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 6: you identified yourself? You say I am a draft annualist. 899 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 6: You know for a fact that you could take a 900 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 6: fourth inut of fifth, move back two slots and pick 901 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 6: up an extra six. They means we get our sixth back. 902 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 6: Only thing we gave up with Kyrie. We got a 903 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 6: free player, and we got a fifth and the seventh 904 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 6: for next year. That's big baller beans. We gotta stack. 905 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 5: Now. 906 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this last thing. I'm going I appreciate 907 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 6: you and saying you're my car. This is the ice 908 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 6: in which I love about the game about free agency 909 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 6: that people sleeping on. The Kansas City Chiefs just moved 910 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 6: a couple of players. I think it's my homes and 911 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 6: it was Jones to create forty nine million dollars for 912 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 6: their bank. I want Buffalo let them go shopping. Just 913 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 6: fall back when they start spending that money. I want 914 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 6: try to go and give a deal one point six 915 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 6: to their punter or to their punter who can flip 916 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 6: the game on our defense. They would have to make 917 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 6: it might not be able to have can because they 918 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 6: don't have enough money. We can solidify what we lost 919 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 6: and got a game by bringing back our partner Matt 920 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 6: a reason from number fourteen from the Kansas City Chiefs, 921 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 6: who overcame the situation that when he got drafted by Buffalo, 922 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 6: which we already know the situation. But at the same time, 923 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 6: we can make a right or wrong or right by 924 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 6: doing that at the same time flipping the field with 925 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 6: his new defense. Now I'm going after this and thank you. 926 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 6: I promise you you tell Jake Joey Bosa when y'aw 927 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 6: when y'all interview him coming up, I'm telling, along with Buffalo, 928 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 6: love him. We expecting nothing less than what he's supposed 929 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 6: to do. The Mafia is going holme accountable because guess what, 930 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 6: we got a nice training staff. Ain't no excuses. Go 931 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 6: ahead and get that contract, give Josh Allen that ship, 932 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 6: and go and get your five year, one and forty 933 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 6: six year dollar deal next year. I love you, guys, 934 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 6: man up way already know everybody else, I love you. 935 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 6: Thanks so much for not cutting me off and loving 936 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 6: me that yah Drew, and thanks so much for your time. 937 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 6: I love you each and have you one all right? 938 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 3: Thanks? Butch, hope you have a great day. 939 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 4: Butch needs his own radio show. I mean, how does 940 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 4: he not already have one? Or he needs to be 941 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 4: like a narrator for like the Bill's offseason video that they. 942 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 3: Do or something like it. That's a good idea. 943 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 4: I'm trying to unpack everything. He said, Yeah, and we 944 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 4: talked about it at the outside of this show. The 945 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 4: job that Brandon Bean did as a general manager to 946 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 4: get extra picks to free up space, and like Butcher 947 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 4: put it, use that savings to sign DeMar Hamlin, who's 948 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 4: been a steady force at the safety position and has 949 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 4: gotten better throughout the beginning of his Bill's career. I 950 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 4: thought he was rock solid this past season. It was 951 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 4: a detriment to the defense when he went down late 952 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 4: in the year. He was very steady as a tackler, 953 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 4: did not very did not miss very many tackles at all, 954 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 4: made plays and coverage. Obviously, had the big strip sack 955 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 4: of Lamar Jackson in the divisional round that really, I 956 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 4: don't want to say sealed the game, but was a 957 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 4: huge turning point in that game. So yeah, that was 958 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 4: master class GMing from Brandon Bean. Yeah, it was and 959 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 4: not one that I saw coming. Not that Brandon Bean 960 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 4: couldn't do it. I didn't think they were going to 961 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 4: be able to trade Kyrie Elam and get Yes, they 962 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 4: traded the extra sixth, but to get two picks for 963 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 4: him and free up cap space in the process, really 964 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 4: well done by Brandon Bean. 965 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and DeMar Hamlin was set to become a free agent, 966 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 2: and he is going to I think sign here today 967 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,240 Speaker 2: and speak to media later this afternoon. But you wonder 968 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,240 Speaker 2: if he would have gone to another team. I'm happy 969 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 2: he's back in Buffalo because, like you said, he was 970 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 2: a solid piece to that defense last year and earn 971 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 2: himself a starting spot and I think was a difference 972 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,439 Speaker 2: maker at times. You mentioned that stripsack that he had 973 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 2: against Baltimore in the playoffs and how he's consistently gotten 974 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 2: better every single year. I mean thinking about what he 975 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 2: went through as well, and how he has gotten better 976 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 2: every year as a football player. What's in store for 977 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,919 Speaker 2: him next? He's got a one year deal to stay 978 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 2: in Buffalo. I'm sure this place is just special to 979 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 2: him and that's a big reason why he wanted to 980 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 2: stay with the Bills. 981 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 3: But it'll be interesting. 982 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 2: To see how he fights for our starting opportunity this offseason. 983 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 4: You saying all that makes me realize. We just talked 984 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 4: to Derek Forrest, the Bill's new safety. I think this 985 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 4: is a safety position and you mentioned it. You want 986 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 4: to watch that position closely in mini camp and certainly 987 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 4: training camp in Rochester preseason. It's a position that has 988 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 4: like three or four guys that are all trying to 989 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 4: prove something, and Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott can say, oh, 990 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 4: we're trying to preach competition. Those are four players, including 991 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 4: Cole bish Up, the twenty twenty four second rounder, that 992 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 4: they're gonna get the most out of each other because 993 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 4: no one is coming in as here's your starting job 994 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 4: you have. You know you're making seventeen million a year, 995 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 4: you're a veteran. I think it is going to breed 996 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,760 Speaker 4: the best play out of all four of those safeties 997 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 4: on this roster. 998 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what I'm seeing out of the names 999 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 2: in that group. I think I think whoever ends up being. 1000 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 3: The two starters are going to be two special players. 1001 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 4: And they would have earned it too. Absolutely. 1002 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna take a break. 1003 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 2: When we return, we'll talk more free agency and answering 1004 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 2: any phone calls that you have. Give us a call 1005 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 2: here at eight oh three, five point fifty. Who was 1006 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 2: your favorite free agent signing so far for the Bills? 1007 00:50:41,440 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 2: Where One Bill's Live presented by Clidahelp on Buffalo Bills Radio. 1008 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health. 1009 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 3: What's up, everybody? 1010 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 2: Welcome into our number two of one Bill's Live Happy 1011 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: Free Agency Week. It's been a crazy week already, but 1012 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,879 Speaker 2: in the best way. I'm Maddie glab and I'm joined 1013 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 2: by CBS Sports NFL Draft analyst Chris Trepasso. It's been 1014 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 2: fun to talk about all these new additions to Buffalo's roster. 1015 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: Earlier in the show, we had new safety Derek Forrest 1016 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 2: to join us, and he spoke about why he feels 1017 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 2: like this is the right thing for him and what 1018 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 2: he can offer to this defense. I know we're just 1019 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 2: in March, and I know we still have the draft ahead, 1020 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 2: and we still have Mini camp and training camp, but 1021 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 2: it's weeks like this that gets you so excited for 1022 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 2: what's to come in September. 1023 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 4: It is a reminder that the NFL has a firm 1024 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 4: grasp on our attention pretty much eleven months out of 1025 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 4: the year. Maybe June, maybe fourth of July, we're not 1026 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 4: thinking too much NFL. But then by August it's obviously 1027 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 4: training camp. And even in March, you know, a full 1028 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 4: month removed from the Super Bowl, we're like ready to 1029 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 4: go watch a game in that stadium, right here, Like 1030 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 4: that's how excited people are in Western New York and 1031 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 4: really just across the entire NFL with a flurry of 1032 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,760 Speaker 4: all of these moves coming in. What I've done Instead 1033 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 4: of checking my phone and like constantly scrolling, I've set 1034 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 4: up the notifications. I like set it up on my 1035 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 4: desk at home, and I'll just let the Ian Rappaport 1036 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 4: tweets popa and then I'll just like, Okay, I saw 1037 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,959 Speaker 4: this happen and saw that happen. Because in years past, 1038 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 4: you could just be on there for hours. 1039 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:04,240 Speaker 7: It sucked. 1040 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 4: It's very hard. So that's the way that I've done it. 1041 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 4: But it is certainly, you're right, such a fun week 1042 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 4: if you're an NFL fan to see which pieces your 1043 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,760 Speaker 4: team is going to bring in to probably improve the 1044 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 4: next coming season. 1045 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 3: And I have so. 1046 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 2: Much respect for guys like Ian Rappaport, Adam Schefter. 1047 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 4: Between it like two in the morning. 1048 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 3: Breaking news throughout free agency. I mean, these guys they. 1049 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,800 Speaker 2: Probably get a couple hours of sleep every night and 1050 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 2: they're on TV and then they're on TV all day. 1051 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's pretty incredible. The industry of the NFL 1052 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 4: off season. It's not there's there's no off season. There's 1053 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 4: two seasons, like we should remove the word off at 1054 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 4: the beginning. 1055 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 3: He's in a not quite in season, but still busy. 1056 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 4: Transaction season maybe something like that. It's been a lot 1057 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 4: of fun in master building season, yeah, roster building season. 1058 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 4: And that we mentioned at the outside of this last 1059 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 4: two free agent periods for the Bills, I don't want 1060 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 4: to say sleepy, but close because they didn't have the money. 1061 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 4: They had a lot of pieces bam right away. Right 1062 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 4: after I went off the air on Monday, they signed 1063 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 4: Josh Palmer. Michael Hoyt comes in. Joey Bosa is kind 1064 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 4: of the big ticket guy, the most marquee name, Derek Forrest, 1065 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,280 Speaker 4: who I think is going to outplay that draft position, 1066 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 4: and then Larry Ogunjobi, who's a big, really physical, nasty 1067 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 4: up the field defensive tackle to pair with Ed Oliver. 1068 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 4: They've been busy in these first three or four days 1069 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 4: of free agency. 1070 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 2: You mentioned Joey Bosa being that big ticket item, and 1071 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 2: we've seen throughout the week and early on players re 1072 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: sign with their teams and then guys who didn't sign 1073 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 2: resign with their teams go elsewhere, and the list is 1074 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 2: starting to dwindle and become smaller, and there's not as 1075 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 2: many big names out there. And sure there's a guy 1076 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 2: like Trey Hendrickson who's still out there that you could 1077 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 2: trade for, but the word on the street is they 1078 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 2: want a first and then Trey Hendrickson is also want 1079 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,720 Speaker 2: to get going to be paid upwards of twenty five million. 1080 00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 3: Dollars per year. 1081 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 2: And I look at what Buffalo has done adding three 1082 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 2: different defensive linemen to their roster in Joey Bosa, Larry Ogan, 1083 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 2: Jobi and Michael Hoyt, and you put all that money 1084 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 2: together and there's about twenty five ish there, and instead 1085 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 2: of getting one player, you're getting three different players. 1086 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 4: And I think in today's NFL, with the prevalence of injury, 1087 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 4: it's almost always better to have. I don't want to 1088 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,280 Speaker 4: say quantity over quality. If you can get a Miles Garrett, 1089 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 4: if you can you know, Trey Hendrickson probably should have 1090 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 4: been the defensive player of the year, led the league 1091 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 4: in sacks. That certainly helps, But all you are one 1092 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 4: play away from your big ticket item that you spent 1093 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 4: twenty five million dollars on being injured and out for 1094 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 4: the year. You want to diversify your roster in terms 1095 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 4: of having legitimate depth. The Bills certainly know that very 1096 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 4: well that your depth is going to be tested, whether 1097 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 4: it's in December, whether it's for a tough road stretch 1098 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 4: in October, or in the playoffs. It's better to diversify 1099 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 4: and spread out your money a little bit more. And really, 1100 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 4: even since his first offseason in Buffalo, Brandon Bean has 1101 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 4: done a great job to shop low level, mid tier 1102 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,359 Speaker 4: free agents that aren't going to break the bank. I mean, 1103 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 4: outside of von Miller obviously, that aren't going to break 1104 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 4: the bank. So you can sign five, six, seven guys 1105 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 4: that are just gonna be pieced into the roster along 1106 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,360 Speaker 4: with solid drafts and of course number seventeen. And that's 1107 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 4: how you feel the perennial contender. 1108 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And having you say all this, my mind goes 1109 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 2: back to like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. My first season 1110 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 2: here was twenty nineteen, and even then still you kind 1111 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 2: of had to sell guys in free agency of why 1112 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 2: should you come to Buffalo. Twenty nineteen was the year 1113 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 2: that things started to really kick off in the right 1114 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 2: way for this team to become a team that was 1115 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 2: making the playoffs. Every single season, and now you're you're 1116 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five here and you don't even have 1117 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,919 Speaker 2: to sell anybody on coming to Buffalo. Well, it's hey, 1118 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 2: they could win a super Bowl. You want to be 1119 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 2: part of this or not? 1120 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 4: And they want to sign one year deals, whether it's 1121 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 4: you're like Taylor Rapp and you springboard that into a 1122 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 4: starting job and a multi year deal in Buffalo or 1123 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 4: somewhere else. To go back that I just went back 1124 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 4: if there was anyone else that I was forgetting from 1125 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, famously John Brown Cole Beasley, that barely sent 1126 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 4: a ripple across the pond. It was oh okay, Yeah, 1127 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 4: two decent wide receivers. They were at their best in Buffalo. 1128 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 3: So important to Josh, so. 1129 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 4: Important to his development. 1130 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1131 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 4: Also Daikwon Jones and Jordan Phillips as well, guys who 1132 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,919 Speaker 4: were just on the team this past year. So there 1133 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 4: is some staying power to those lower to mid level 1134 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 4: guys that aren't sending shock waves across the NFL, not 1135 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 4: breaking the bank, staying here. The bills get you in 1136 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 4: the building, you produce that, you gel with the coaching staff, 1137 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 4: and they want to retain you. It's really not always 1138 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 4: a situation where a one year deal equates to a 1139 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 4: one year rental and then you're out the door. 1140 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 8: Again. 1141 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 4: We've seen it with Taylor Rapp being most recent, DeMar 1142 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 4: Hamlin resigning. Obviously not a free agent, but they like 1143 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 4: to retain the players that they know the best, and 1144 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 4: you're right, players don't need to be sold on coming 1145 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 4: to Buffalo the fan base, Josh Allen and like you're 1146 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 4: mentioning the ability to contend for a super Bowl potentially 1147 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 4: probably the biggest bargaining chip of me. 1148 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 2: We're asking you this question. What has been your favorite 1149 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 2: Bills free agents signing so far? Do you have one 1150 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 2: in mind? Give us a call eight oh three oh 1151 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 2: five point fifty or tweet at us. We're gonna go 1152 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,479 Speaker 2: right to the phone lines to Ryan and Toronto. Who's 1153 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 2: joining us? 1154 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,439 Speaker 3: Now? Ryan, what's up? 1155 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 5: What's up? Many? Chris? What's up? Chris good Man? So, 1156 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 5: I'm honestly I'm going to upset the fact that I'll resigned. 1157 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 5: Joey Bosa, whats gonna say? That is twelve million dollars 1158 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 5: guaranteed ten million our contract, one a deal. This guy 1159 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 5: is made of glass. He's so pridi I doubt it's 1160 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 5: going to play made the whole season. Secondly, we've got 1161 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 5: a chance to pick up for the same team one 1162 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 5: ideal for eighteen million dollars. Come on. And then I 1163 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know what bad is thinking. I 1164 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 5: have no idea, but I think it's a really bad tackup. 1165 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 7: You ask me. 1166 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 5: That's all I gotta say. Thanks for taking my cause, 1167 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 5: all right. 1168 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 3: Thanks for calling in Ryan. 1169 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Joey Bosa does have injuries in his past, 1170 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 2: and we'll see if that's what happens in his one 1171 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 2: year that he signed here with Buffalo. Who maybe it 1172 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 2: could maybe it could turn into more years. But like 1173 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier, Chris, he is not injured at this 1174 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 2: current moment. He did not go into the off season injured. 1175 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 2: That means we are dealing with a healthy player right 1176 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 2: now who is going to start the season healthy unless 1177 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 2: something happens in the off season. Knocking on wood right 1178 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 2: now that it doesn't. 1179 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 4: Three other factors to this, which Ryan has all the 1180 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 4: right to say that not everyone has to love every 1181 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 4: single move, and even Brandon Bean would say, hey, every 1182 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 4: move that we make is not going to turn into 1183 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 4: an All Pro and be the greatest move in team history. 1184 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 4: Three factors though that I think get different Khalil Mack 1185 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 4: versus Joey Bosa. Number one, Joey bos is five years 1186 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 4: younger than Khalil Mack. Now Mack does not have the 1187 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 4: injury history. He's probably been a little bit better player later, 1188 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 4: like he's aged better because he hasn't had the injuries. 1189 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 4: Number two, eighteen million and twelve million are not the 1190 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 4: same amount of money like that is that's for a 1191 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 4: team with the bills that don't have an exorbitant amount 1192 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 4: of cap space. The difference in six million dollars for 1193 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 4: one player is sizable. And Thirdly, Khalil Mack didn't even 1194 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 4: really test free agency, like the second the door's opened 1195 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 4: inside the building in LA He re signed that deal 1196 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 4: one year eighteen million, So it's easy to think, hey, 1197 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 4: once free agency begins, every player is just wide open. 1198 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 4: Anyone can sign them. A lot of times these players 1199 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 4: just want to get the security of Hey, I'm here 1200 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 4: in Los Angeles, I've known this team, now my family's here. 1201 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 4: I'm going to just sign this deal. I'm not even 1202 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 4: really going to talk to any other teams. If my 1203 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 4: team lowballs me, then maybe I'll you know, have my 1204 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 4: agent reach out. It feels like the fact that Khalil 1205 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 4: Mack happened so quick, maybe he really wasn't truly wanting 1206 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 4: to test the waters and the Bills and any other 1207 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 4: team besides the Chargers did not really have an opportunity 1208 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 4: to sign him. 1209 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 2: We saw so many players this year re sign with 1210 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 2: their teams, so many What is your take on why 1211 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 2: we saw so many players do so this year? 1212 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 4: Well, this is a this is a perfect segue because 1213 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 4: we heard from Josh Allen went yesterday or two days 1214 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 4: ago yesterday, say like, what's the difference for five million 1215 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 4: or in five million dollars per year for me? Now 1216 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 4: Josh Allen can say that with making two hundred and 1217 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 4: fifty million guaranteed. That's always been a theory that I've had, 1218 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 4: Where where's the point when you're making millions of dollars 1219 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 4: where maybe the top bidder the most amount of money 1220 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 4: is not the number one priority and factor in making 1221 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 4: your decision someone like a Khalil Mack or Damar Hamlin 1222 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 4: or Khalil Shakir or Greg Russau. Yeah, technically they could 1223 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 4: have maybe hit the market and gotten like one more 1224 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,919 Speaker 4: million dollar guaranteed per year or three or four more. 1225 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 4: They're already making a considerable amount of money. And I 1226 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 4: thought it was funny that literally, Josh Allen is the 1227 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 4: guy that's saying this, because he's a quarterback, he has 1228 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 4: all the leverage in the world. He could say, I 1229 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 4: want to go to the highest bidder. I think to 1230 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 4: answer your question, we're under we're seeing now that the 1231 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 4: money has gotten so big in the NFL that these 1232 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 4: players understand, Yes, money matters, it's it would be great 1233 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 4: to be every contract to be fully guaranteed. But I'm 1234 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 4: also valuing team situation, my role on the team, my 1235 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 4: family situation, not uprooting my family again. So I think 1236 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 4: that's why guys like what the Bills did with their 1237 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 4: core and while why Khalil Mack and a lot of 1238 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 4: these other players have decided to re sign because we 1239 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 4: are to the point where it's not one hundred percent 1240 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 4: about going to the highest bidder. Right, doesn't that make 1241 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 4: sense to you? 1242 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 7: Right? 1243 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 3: That's a really good point. 1244 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 2: And you think about if you're if you're set to 1245 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 2: become a free agent, but you're happy in your role 1246 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 2: currently with the team that you were on the previous season, 1247 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 2: and you feel like you have it set up good, 1248 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 2: and maybe you're well established into your NFL career. What 1249 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 2: is a couple extra million dollars going to do for 1250 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 2: you at that point in your life. So it does 1251 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 2: make a lot of sense of I'm not gonna I 1252 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 2: don't want to learn a new defense. I don't want 1253 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 2: to learn a new offense. I don't want to have 1254 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 2: to go through I'm a new kid here trying to 1255 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 2: figure my way around and trying to learn about all 1256 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 2: these new coaches that we have on this new staff 1257 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 2: that I have no idea about. Let me just stay 1258 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 2: where I'm comfortable and where I know what my role is. 1259 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 4: Everything that you just outlined is exactly what I've thought 1260 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 4: for a long time, And it was so illuminating to 1261 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 4: hear that from Bill's quarterback Josh Allen, Like Greg Russo, 1262 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 4: forty nine million fully guaranteed at signing, What can't he 1263 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 4: do with forty nine million guaranteed at signing that he 1264 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 4: could do with fifty one million guaranteed at signing to 1265 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 4: go to the Jaguars, or you know what I mean. 1266 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 4: So I think to answer your question, I think that's 1267 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 4: what maybe the agents are kind of in their ears now. 1268 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 4: Or maybe it's the players pushing back on the agents 1269 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 4: and saying, look, your job is to get me the 1270 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 4: most money, but I will take maybe two or three 1271 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 4: percent less money to not have to go through all 1272 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 4: of those things that you just outlined. 1273 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 2: And we've talked about it this week on the show. 1274 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 2: With where the cap is at, where TV deals are at, 1275 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 2: I mean it's going up twenty to thirty million dollars 1276 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 2: per year. It's more than they expected this year to be. 1277 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 2: So you have gms who get to deal with a 1278 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 2: few extra million, and maybe that's the difference in resigning 1279 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 2: some of your own players of hey, now we have 1280 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 2: a couple extra to deal with that we feel like, oh, 1281 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 2: we can retain these guys now. 1282 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1283 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 4: And how about the fact that the cap has gone 1284 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 4: up like by double in the last ten years for 1285 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 4: the NFL and there's really no signs of it slowing down. 1286 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 4: There was the one COVID year where it did regress 1287 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 4: a little bit and owners lost their minds, Oh my gosh, 1288 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 4: how are we going to recoup this? That's clearly not 1289 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 4: a problem. The last two years twenty million dollars good. 1290 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 4: So it's I think the NFL is in pretty good 1291 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 4: shape financially with all of the different streaming services, you 1292 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 4: got to have like five different subscriptions now to watch 1293 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 4: all these games late in the season. The Bills have 1294 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 4: been on a few of those, So I think yes, 1295 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 4: for the owners, for the guys negotiating the TV deals, 1296 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 4: the money is king, And I still think the players 1297 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 4: should with how much rigor they're they're going through every 1298 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 4: season on their bodies, they should be trying to get 1299 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 4: the most money possible. But it's not always the only 1300 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 4: determining factor to sign. And I think, like Terrell Bernard mentioned, 1301 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 4: it could come off as it's cliche and it's just 1302 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 4: what a player is gonna mention. But the camaraderie in 1303 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 4: the locker room and staying here and being comfortable here 1304 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 4: and knowing that you're going to compete at the highest level, 1305 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 4: potentially for a championship, with Josh Allen as your quarterback 1306 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 4: and all the other pieces, makes more sense to just 1307 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 4: stay home, even if you're not completely one hundred percent 1308 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 4: maxing out your true value on the free agent Mark yep, let's. 1309 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 2: Go back to the phone. Mark from West Seneca is 1310 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 2: joining us now, Mark, how are you. 1311 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 11: Doing good afternoon? How are you guys doing good? 1312 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 3: What do you got for us? 1313 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 11: Well? First, I want to say I love Brandon Bean 1314 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 11: and he's, without a doubt, one of the best gms 1315 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 11: in the league. But when when I'm looking at where 1316 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 11: we're at right now, I love what he's done. What 1317 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 11: I love most is the re signings of our own guys. 1318 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 11: I love that the guys he's taught back. As far 1319 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 11: as the new guys, you know, free agency is always 1320 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 11: a crapshoot. The reason they're on the market is because 1321 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 11: they all have question marks. So if they pan out, 1322 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 11: they pan out. And Brandon has under earned our trust 1323 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 11: and the benefit of the doubt and the guys he 1324 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 11: brings in. But what I'm really really concerned about I 1325 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 11: was concerned about it before the season last year, especially 1326 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 11: at safety, but even more so now when you look 1327 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 11: at where we're at right now, and I'm sure Brandon 1328 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 11: has some kind of a plan. I wish I knew 1329 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,919 Speaker 11: what that was. He would make me calm my nerves down. 1330 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 11: But with the I mean we're down numbers that corner 1331 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 11: with the with the absences out of Elam and Douglas. 1332 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 11: So right now we've got jamarrow Ingram Pennsylvan right the 1333 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 11: right there. At safety, we have Taylor Rapp, who I love, 1334 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 11: but he's oft injured and Cole Bishop who is an 1335 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 11: unknown at best, and so far all we've done is 1336 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 11: bring in Damar Hamlin, which I love tomorrow. Don't get 1337 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 11: me wrong, but we all agree that we need to 1338 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 11: get more athletic and more speed in our defensive backfield. So, 1339 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 11: and one of the strengths of McDermott is coaching up safeties. 1340 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 11: So I don't understand how we're not bringing in a younger, 1341 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 11: more athletic guy even if we have to coach him up, 1342 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 11: and we bring in basically a part time player at safety. 1343 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 7: So and. 1344 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 11: Spinning the whole move about Elam getting a fifth round pick. Okay, 1345 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,439 Speaker 11: it's great that you're bringing your getting a fifth round 1346 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 11: back for a guy who's obviously a bust, but we 1347 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,439 Speaker 11: can't find that as a great deal. If you ask 1348 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 11: Brandon Bean, he'll I'm sure he'd be the first guy 1349 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 11: to tell you, I'm not going to have my job 1350 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 11: very long if I continually have to flip first round 1351 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 11: draft picks for five and sevens over three years. So 1352 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 11: that's a fail. That's a fail, no matter how you 1353 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,559 Speaker 11: look at it, We'll take the fifth and run. But 1354 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 11: I mean Brandon would I'm sure Brandon would tell you that. 1355 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 11: So I am really really nervous as to where we're 1356 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 11: at in the defensive secondary, and I don't believe we're 1357 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 11: gonna have this great thing like Casey did a few 1358 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,760 Speaker 11: years ago, or they drafted three rookies and they all 1359 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 11: started and they were all great. You know, how often 1360 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 11: does that really happen? You know, there's there's learning to 1361 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 11: be done, there's growing pains to be had. So I 1362 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 11: don't know what you guys think. Chris, I don't know. 1363 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 11: Maybe you can calm my nerves a little and tell 1364 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 11: me a little bit more about the cornerback and safety 1365 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,640 Speaker 11: group that's out there for drafting that they might have 1366 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 11: a shot at. But right now, from where I'm sitting, 1367 01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 11: we're in real trouble. 1368 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 4: Thanks guys, No, Mark, those are legitimate concerns. Maddie asked 1369 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 4: me earlier in the show, and we agreed that right now, 1370 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,759 Speaker 4: if you were to put some odds on what position 1371 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 4: the Bills would address in Round one, it would have 1372 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,759 Speaker 4: to be cornerback because they just don't have the bodies 1373 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 4: there now. I think Mark either just didn't see it, 1374 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 4: didn't or latantly forgot. Derek Forrest is the four four 1375 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 4: to three free safety. See he's young, he's twenty five. 1376 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 4: He is the athleticism and jews and ballhawking skills in 1377 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 4: the safety room. The cornerback class. It's been what I've 1378 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 4: repeated over and over so far in this pre draft process. 1379 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 4: Late first into mid second, I think there's going to 1380 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 4: be a bunch of corners that go off the board. 1381 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,800 Speaker 4: That's where the Bills are picking at thirty and then 1382 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 4: with those two second rounders, and I would be pretty 1383 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 4: surprised if there is not a veteran cornerback signed at 1384 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 4: some point. Remember I said when we were on the 1385 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 4: show on Monday, when I did it with Steve, that oh, 1386 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 4: it'll probably be a day or two until Bill side 1387 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,639 Speaker 4: some players. And then they went through this flurry. We're 1388 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 4: really only in the fourth day of free agency. There's 1389 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 4: still a Sante Samuel Junior. Available. There are some other 1390 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,800 Speaker 4: veteran corners who are either coming down in their asking price, 1391 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 4: or maybe there's an injury concern, or they're talking through 1392 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 4: some things in terms of just how much money teams 1393 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 4: are offering them. I don't think the Bills will go 1394 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 4: into twenty twenty two or twenty twenty five the draft 1395 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,919 Speaker 4: like they did in twenty two, where it was obvious 1396 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 4: that they had to pick a corner. And for as 1397 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 4: much as Mark is right, you don't want to be 1398 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 4: drafting a bunch of bus in the first round. The 1399 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 4: sixth round selection of Christian Benford kind of mid treates. 1400 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 4: It's a trade. If you said kyer Elum was the 1401 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,640 Speaker 4: sixth rounder and Christian Benford was the first rounder, no 1402 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 4: one would be batting an eye at that right now 1403 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 4: that you ultimately had to trade the sixth rounder for 1404 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 4: a fifth and a seventh. So no, Brandon Bean should 1405 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 4: not be ecstatic about the kyer Elam pick and how 1406 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 4: it developed, But doubling down at that position that was 1407 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,519 Speaker 4: a clear need in that draft was smart. Was smart 1408 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,680 Speaker 4: drafting by him to ultimately fix that position, which he 1409 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 4: certainly did with Benford. 1410 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 3: And Brandon Bean. 1411 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 2: When he met with the media after the season was 1412 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 2: over and was asked about kyer Elam, Bean was very 1413 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 2: honest saying, this is not how we thought things would 1414 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 2: go with kye Elam, and I'm sure Elam would say 1415 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 2: the same thing. He was not happy about the situation. 1416 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 2: You drafted guy in the first round, you obviously want 1417 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 2: that player to become your first become a starter. Not 1418 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 2: how it worked out here, but hopefully kyer Elam gets 1419 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 2: another opportunity with the Cowboys. He's somebody that I'm gonna 1420 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,400 Speaker 2: be cheering for because when he was in this building, 1421 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 2: he was an awesome person to be around, and I 1422 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 2: want to see people like that have success. We're gonna 1423 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 2: take a break when we returned to mar Hamlin just 1424 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 2: signed his contract. He's speaking to the media right now, 1425 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,960 Speaker 2: so we're gonna hear from him next on One Bill's Live. 1426 01:11:52,960 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Represented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio. We're back 1427 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,480 Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live medic Glab and Chris Jipasso. 1428 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,679 Speaker 2: It's a busy day at One Bill's Drive. A lot 1429 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 2: of these new players are inside the building right now. 1430 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 2: And what happens before guys put pen to paper on 1431 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 2: their contract is they fly in here. They get a 1432 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 2: tour of the facility once they arrive at One Bill's Drive. 1433 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,000 Speaker 2: So they're checking out the weight room, they're checking out 1434 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 2: the cafeteria. They're getting to meet with their position coaches. 1435 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 2: If there's any players in the building who are on. 1436 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 3: The team last year. 1437 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 2: They get to meet some of those guys, so it's 1438 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 2: a real day of like feeling out your new home. 1439 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,479 Speaker 2: Then they go through physicals and sure enough they're signing 1440 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 2: their contracts and meeting with the media. Somebody who didn't 1441 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 2: have to have a tour of the building because he 1442 01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,519 Speaker 2: already knows it very well is Bill's safety Demi Hamlin, 1443 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 2: who re signed with Buffalo on a one year deal. 1444 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 2: He has started in fourteen games last year and had 1445 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 2: a career high two interceptions. Entering the fifth year of 1446 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 2: his NFL career with twenty seven starts and forty eight 1447 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 2: games played. He's meeting with the media right now, so 1448 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,759 Speaker 2: let's go right over to DeMar Hamlin. 1449 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 7: It feels amazing to be back. You know, this is home. 1450 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 12: This is all I know as a pro, and you know, 1451 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 12: you know I'm connected to this place on a totally 1452 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,840 Speaker 12: different level, so you know, this is the place I 1453 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 12: want to be. This is you know, where I would 1454 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 12: want to spend my whole career if I can. So 1455 01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 12: it feels good to be back. 1456 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 8: This process like. 1457 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 7: It was fun, Like it was fun. 1458 01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,799 Speaker 12: I was like, whatever happens I'm gonna be blessed and grateful, 1459 01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 12: and you know, it's a childhood dream. As stressful as 1460 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,599 Speaker 12: it is and as much pressure, and you know how 1461 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,719 Speaker 12: many roller coasters of emotions you could go on throughout 1462 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 12: the free agency process. I was able to just keep 1463 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 12: my mindset on the fact that, you know, it's a 1464 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 12: blessing to be in this position, and you know, I'll 1465 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 12: be super grateful for whatever come my way. 1466 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 3: Just going into next year, what are you looking forward to? 1467 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 3: How do you feel you grow here last year? 1468 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 8: You can build on that going into next year. 1469 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,840 Speaker 12: You know, last year, I feel like I was, you know, 1470 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 12: getting the training where it was off, you know, of 1471 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 12: myself in a way, just coming back from like you know, 1472 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 12: literally dying on the field to you know, playing again 1473 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,200 Speaker 12: in a significant role, a starting role, playing a full 1474 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 12: season again for the first time, you know, just feeling 1475 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:38,639 Speaker 12: myself out. 1476 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 7: I feel like it was a year or. 1477 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,640 Speaker 12: That and I feel like I had a lot of 1478 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,280 Speaker 12: success on the field. So to see where I can 1479 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,760 Speaker 12: take it from, you know, knowing that's where I was 1480 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 12: within myself to you know, just growing into another year 1481 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 12: and being able to see what I did and develop 1482 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 12: myself into what I want to become this this upcoming year. 1483 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 12: I'm excited for that journey. I've I've done it in 1484 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,960 Speaker 12: every level you know, high school, college, and you know 1485 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 12: now the pros being able to just get a full 1486 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 12: load underneath me and then be able to build on it. 1487 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 7: Do you want to be comples here? 1488 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 12: I just want to just continue to grow off of 1489 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 12: what I did last season. 1490 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 7: You know, I know it was a lot of you. 1491 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,600 Speaker 12: Know, playoffs and a lot of plays you know, to 1492 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:26,639 Speaker 12: be made on top. 1493 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 7: Of the ones that I feel like I already made. 1494 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 12: So you know, just to continue to grow to be 1495 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,080 Speaker 12: a leader on this team, you know, fifth your presence. 1496 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,400 Speaker 12: You know, that's a very long time, especially you know 1497 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,639 Speaker 12: in the NFL, which they say is not for long. 1498 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 12: So you know, just to continue to grow and develop 1499 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,760 Speaker 12: with my teammates. I think, going back to your other 1500 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 12: question as far as free agency, that was probably one 1501 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 12: of the most uh nerve nerve wracking things was you know, 1502 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 12: just the bond we build here with my teammates, just 1503 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,680 Speaker 12: to like, you know, separate from those it was that 1504 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,639 Speaker 12: was it was messing with me emotionally. So I'm super 1505 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 12: glad to be back with my brothers and you know, 1506 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 12: just continue to work the way that we already do. 1507 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,719 Speaker 1: Can take us through your conversations with Brandon Bean starting 1508 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 1: maybe at the end of the year exit interview, and 1509 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,639 Speaker 1: how we got to this point when you resigning, You. 1510 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,960 Speaker 12: Know, it was always a conversation of you know, I 1511 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 12: always wanted here and I appreciated that, and it was 1512 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,680 Speaker 12: always known that I had a home here no matter what. 1513 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,840 Speaker 12: So you know, I just appreciate the relationship I'm able 1514 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 12: to have with them, uh, the clarity that I can 1515 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 12: get with them just off of a phone call. You know, 1516 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 12: I feel like I could call being at any second 1517 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 12: of the day and talk to him about anything as 1518 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 12: alongside as coach McDermott too. So you know, I always 1519 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,680 Speaker 12: had a home here, and you know, I'm trusted to 1520 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,360 Speaker 12: play valuable snaps and I'm trusted, you know, to go 1521 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 12: out there and make plays for my team, which you know, 1522 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,200 Speaker 12: that's the ultimate thing you want as a player. 1523 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 7: The bond that you built with a lot of people here. 1524 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,160 Speaker 1: One of those people seems to be Cole Bishop, who 1525 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 1: reacted to your signing. 1526 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,680 Speaker 11: What wasn't like getting to know him last year and 1527 01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,600 Speaker 11: how much does he mean you? 1528 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,679 Speaker 7: It was? It was super dope getting the no cold. 1529 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 12: He means a lot to me, you know, just coming 1530 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 12: in as a young guy in the room that you 1531 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 12: know has already been shaped by so much culture and 1532 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 12: you know so many great players that have walked the 1533 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 12: journey before him, and you know, he was all ears 1534 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,200 Speaker 12: and he was just a lot of love. 1535 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 7: Like Cole is one of the biggest hearts. 1536 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 12: You know, he loves everybody, and he's he's all in 1537 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,760 Speaker 12: on his teammates, you know, and he fits in here 1538 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 12: with us well, So you know, I'm super excited to 1539 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,639 Speaker 12: get back to work for him. We joke around a lot, 1540 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,760 Speaker 12: so you know, Cole is my man's that's my baby bro. 1541 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,639 Speaker 7: For sure. There's such an. 1542 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 13: Emphasis of not giving up explosives for safeties, especially here 1543 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 13: where this team has been so good, and not giving 1544 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 13: them all. You know, do you think, like now you're 1545 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,400 Speaker 13: your seventeen games started this year, how do you like 1546 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,439 Speaker 13: the more you play? Can you think you can better 1547 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 13: balance you know, keeping that priority while still being a playmaker. 1548 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 13: What do you how do you think that you balance. 1549 01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 12: Those two things. That's a good question, but I think 1550 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 12: you know, at the end of the day, you know, 1551 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 12: that's that's what we do here. Like you said, you know, 1552 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,440 Speaker 12: we eliminate explosives. That's you know, one of our cornerstones 1553 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 12: of our dB room of what we talk about. So, 1554 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,320 Speaker 12: you know, I think just having that mindset right there, 1555 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 12: you know, there's opportunities to make plays within. You know 1556 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 12: that in itself as far as if you're in position 1557 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,599 Speaker 12: to take away the explosive. You know, teams are going 1558 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 12: to try their explosives no matter what. So if you're 1559 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,360 Speaker 12: already in position of taking away the explosive, you know, 1560 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,000 Speaker 12: whenever they take their shot, you you know, you should 1561 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 12: be in position to be able to take it away. 1562 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,519 Speaker 12: So uh, I think there's plays to be made within 1563 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 12: following the scheme and the system. So uh and I'm 1564 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 12: at the point where I can understand that and know 1565 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,759 Speaker 12: how to make plays within doing my job toward. 1566 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:49,839 Speaker 8: Pentioned free agency. 1567 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 2: What was the interest around maybe how many teams did 1568 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,880 Speaker 2: you have different conversations with and a truly close did 1569 01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:58,599 Speaker 2: you maybe go to. 1570 01:18:58,600 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 7: Going a different direction? 1571 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 12: We had a lot of a lot of conversations and 1572 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,240 Speaker 12: a lot of interests which was pretty cool, you know 1573 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:09,680 Speaker 12: what I mean to be able to get back like man, 1574 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,840 Speaker 12: I'm coming from like not knowing if I would be 1575 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:17,479 Speaker 12: able to play football again, so to you know, know 1576 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,559 Speaker 12: that I had what it took still and to actually 1577 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,800 Speaker 12: go after it and chase it and make it happen. 1578 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 12: To be able to be out there this year, like 1579 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 12: and for teams to respect my body of work after 1580 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:29,879 Speaker 12: going through. 1581 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 7: So much was like it was just cool. 1582 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,920 Speaker 12: Like I was just appreciative of everything, regardless of if 1583 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 12: it worked out or not. So there was a lot 1584 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 12: of interest from a few teams, which I was, you know, 1585 01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:41,680 Speaker 12: greatly appreciative of. 1586 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,839 Speaker 7: But ultimately, you know, coming back. 1587 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 12: Here and you know, staying where I'm comfortable, I know 1588 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,960 Speaker 12: the system, I've been here. I can be a leader 1589 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,479 Speaker 12: on this team, and you know, we have a chance 1590 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 12: to win. I think that's my that's my biggest thing 1591 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,360 Speaker 12: of why I'm still playing and why want to be 1592 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,759 Speaker 12: here is I want to win and I'm a winner. 1593 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 12: You know, playing this game and not winning games makes 1594 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 12: this thing a thousand times harder, which it's already hard 1595 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,960 Speaker 12: within itself, So you know, I'm just that's a big 1596 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,519 Speaker 12: part of you know, coming back as well. 1597 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:18,000 Speaker 8: Free agency. 1598 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,320 Speaker 7: Did you talk to Dan at all about what it. 1599 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:21,160 Speaker 8: Was like for him last year? 1600 01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, I talked to day today on the phone. I've 1601 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 12: been talking to day like every day for the past 1602 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 12: couple of weeks, you know, just about life, Like that's 1603 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 12: really my brother. You know, we've been knowing each other 1604 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,240 Speaker 12: since knee high, so you know, that's really my brother, 1605 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,280 Speaker 12: and it's just a genuine relationship. Like we can go 1606 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 12: months without talking and we can call and talk about 1607 01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:44,719 Speaker 12: all of our problems, whether it's you know, football, whether 1608 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 12: it's you know, girls, whether it's you know, anything. 1609 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,880 Speaker 7: He's always there for me and I appreciate that. 1610 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 12: So you know, I've been keeping up with him, and 1611 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 12: I'm super excited for him to, you know, get what 1612 01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,360 Speaker 12: he deserves on his journey as well. 1613 01:20:59,320 --> 01:20:59,680 Speaker 7: A lot of. 1614 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 1: Guys talk about for you, Tocy has been very stressful 1615 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 1: and going through that, you seem to have embraced it, 1616 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,760 Speaker 1: saying you're you know, hey for what I went through 1617 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,200 Speaker 1: to be that. If you didn't go through what you 1618 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,519 Speaker 1: went through, do you think you still embraced it so 1619 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:13,920 Speaker 1: much or did that give you a different. 1620 01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,799 Speaker 7: Perspective on that? If that makes sense, that's a great question. 1621 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 7: I would say. 1622 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,519 Speaker 12: I would say, you know, going through what I went 1623 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,720 Speaker 12: through definitely gave me more perspective, But I feel like 1624 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:31,559 Speaker 12: I was already like perspective, first kind of person, just 1625 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,720 Speaker 12: growing up and coming from where I came from, Cause 1626 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:39,759 Speaker 12: you know, it always wasn't you know, sunshine and bright skuys. 1627 01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,960 Speaker 7: You know, coming up out of my environment. So you know, 1628 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 7: I always had. 1629 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 12: To keep a positive mindset to you know, give myself 1630 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,720 Speaker 12: the energy to keep going and get what I want 1631 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,840 Speaker 12: out of, you know, whatever situation. So yeah, I definitely 1632 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 12: always had, you know, a good perspective. But you know, 1633 01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 12: just having everything snatched away from you and not knowing 1634 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 12: you know, what the future holds, definitely. 1635 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 7: Uh. You know it made me like, no matter what 1636 01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,799 Speaker 7: going no matter what goes. 1637 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,559 Speaker 12: On a couple of deep breaths and uh, you know, 1638 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 12: uh a call with my mom and my dad will 1639 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:13,600 Speaker 12: will cure the world for me. 1640 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 7: I ain't gonna lie very action tallness. Your family, you know, 1641 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,760 Speaker 7: just stressed out. They just want the best for their kid. 1642 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:22,360 Speaker 5: Uh. 1643 01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:24,680 Speaker 12: They just want the best for their son, and uh 1644 01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:26,760 Speaker 12: I I appreciate that. But you know they're in my 1645 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 12: corner no matter what, and you know, they walk this 1646 01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 12: whole journey down with me from start to finish. Uh, 1647 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,960 Speaker 12: And you know I owe them everything in my life. 1648 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 8: For real. 1649 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,639 Speaker 12: I'm super excited. We're building a home back at home 1650 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 12: for them in Pittsburgh right now. So a couple of 1651 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 12: days ago I got to see them laying the foundation 1652 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,840 Speaker 12: to it of you know, our new home. So it's 1653 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 12: just a accumulation of you know, them putting sacrifice into 1654 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,640 Speaker 12: me at a young age and you know, reaping the 1655 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:57,640 Speaker 12: benefits of it. So, uh, life's good for for the 1656 01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,080 Speaker 12: handle and family. Ain't gonna lie. 1657 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:00,760 Speaker 8: One of the reasons you. 1658 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,240 Speaker 4: Want to come back is because you're comfortable here. What 1659 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 4: makes you comfortable with Buffalo and then in. 1660 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,720 Speaker 12: This organization, well, I would say, you know, it's just 1661 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,800 Speaker 12: speaking of Buffalo in general. I always tell everybody on 1662 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,840 Speaker 12: the outside world when they ask me about the snow 1663 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,840 Speaker 12: and the weather and you know, all of the things 1664 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,920 Speaker 12: that people like, you know, pinpoint about Buffalo being what 1665 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,560 Speaker 12: it is, and I always tell them like, I love Buffalo, 1666 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 12: like it's just my peace away from the world. 1667 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:28,479 Speaker 7: Safe here. 1668 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 12: You know, everybody treats me normal, like I'm I'm not 1669 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,400 Speaker 12: I'm not bothered by anybody, you know, like people truly 1670 01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:40,280 Speaker 12: love me here. And you know, just adding on to that, 1671 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,360 Speaker 12: you know, the weather, I feel like I learned how 1672 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,559 Speaker 12: to use it to my advantage. You know, people don't 1673 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,000 Speaker 12: want to come here December January, late in the year 1674 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 12: and play football. 1675 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 7: It's a different type of animal. You know. 1676 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,120 Speaker 12: You got to be really, really, really built different to 1677 01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:56,920 Speaker 12: be able to do that. 1678 01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,240 Speaker 7: And I feel like I learned how to use it 1679 01:23:59,280 --> 01:23:59,879 Speaker 7: to my advantage. 1680 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,519 Speaker 12: You know, I really love being here, so you know, 1681 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,560 Speaker 12: on and off the field, man, it's my it's my 1682 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 12: peace away from the world. And you know, we have 1683 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,679 Speaker 12: all the resources here in the building to do whatever 1684 01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 12: we want to do in the world and be as 1685 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 12: successful as we want to be and take take it 1686 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 12: as far as we want to be. 1687 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 7: From the training room to the weight room, to. 1688 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:27,120 Speaker 12: Chapel to doctor Daz to Len everybody. You know, it's 1689 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 12: it's it's everybody's investing into the players here. So you know, 1690 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,280 Speaker 12: this is the place to thrive and become whatever you 1691 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,040 Speaker 12: want to become for the organization. 1692 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 8: Denny Kellington moves on to Carolina. Obviously you two will 1693 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 8: always be connected. Yeah, can you give your perspective. 1694 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,040 Speaker 13: On him moving on and what he meant to you 1695 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:46,840 Speaker 13: while he was here. 1696 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:52,200 Speaker 12: Then he meant the world to me, Like every morning, 1697 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,160 Speaker 12: you know, coming in or you know, seven am stretch, 1698 01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,639 Speaker 12: full body stretch to Denny, you know, cracking my toes 1699 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,920 Speaker 12: to cracking my neck to you know, just stretching my 1700 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 12: whole body out man, and a just one on one 1701 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,160 Speaker 12: talks that we would always have. Like Denny was, you know, 1702 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 12: one of the most locked in people, one of the 1703 01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 12: most focused on his craft individuals that I've ever met. 1704 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 12: He's helped me through a lot of like small injuries 1705 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,280 Speaker 12: that I've had under the radar, just to keep me 1706 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 12: going and keep me feeling the best that I can feel. So, 1707 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 12: you know, I love Denny Man. He's He's definitely a 1708 01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,880 Speaker 12: stand up human being. But to see him, you know, 1709 01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,840 Speaker 12: go on and further his career, you know, increase his 1710 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 12: role within the organization, I'm super excited for him. 1711 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 7: And you know, another thing that was going through my. 1712 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,960 Speaker 12: Head as I was dealing with free agency, I was 1713 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,839 Speaker 12: telling myself that I wasn't going to allow the business 1714 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:51,519 Speaker 12: of the NFL to dictate my relationships with anyone within it, 1715 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 12: as far as my teammates, as far as you know, Denny, 1716 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,960 Speaker 12: my trainers, as far as anyone that I build a 1717 01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,000 Speaker 12: relationship wherever I'm at. You know, I didn't want to 1718 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,439 Speaker 12: allow the business and the nature of the business of 1719 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,320 Speaker 12: people moving around and shift the hats to control my 1720 01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,160 Speaker 12: relationships with anybody. So you know, I've been working my 1721 01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,559 Speaker 12: phone more than normal, just calling people just to like 1722 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,559 Speaker 12: continue those relationships and just let people know that, like 1723 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,559 Speaker 12: I'm here for you, regardless of you know, if we're 1724 01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:18,600 Speaker 12: under the same roof or not. 1725 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,200 Speaker 3: H DeMar Hamlin one of the good ones. 1726 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 2: Happy he's back here in Buffalo on a one year deal. 1727 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:30,040 Speaker 2: And early in that press conference, Damar Hamlin talked about 1728 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 2: why he wanted to come back to Buffalo. He said, 1729 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:36,880 Speaker 2: this place is home. I have a different connection to Buffalo. 1730 01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,799 Speaker 2: Going back into DeMar Hamlin's career as a football player, 1731 01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,439 Speaker 2: Hamlin is from McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania. That's less than ten 1732 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:49,919 Speaker 2: miles away from University of Pittsburgh, where Hamlin played college football. 1733 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 2: He spent most of his life in Pittsburgh growing up. 1734 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,960 Speaker 2: Thinking about that, Hamlin wasn't gonna leave Buffalo. He knows 1735 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,640 Speaker 2: two places at home, that's Pittsburgh and Buffalo. 1736 01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,160 Speaker 3: Our guy wasn't going anywhere. 1737 01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great call, and a lot of what 1738 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:11,679 Speaker 4: he mentioned really spoke directly to from a legitimate player 1739 01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 4: that just signed. What we talked about earlier that we 1740 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,519 Speaker 4: haven't gotten any of the contract details. I don't think 1741 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,519 Speaker 4: this is going to be or anyone expects it to 1742 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 4: be a seismic contract. Maybe DeMar Hamlin could have squeezed 1743 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,800 Speaker 4: a few pennies out of some other teams. The camaraderie, 1744 01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,919 Speaker 4: the familiarity, the understanding of his role within the defense, 1745 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:36,400 Speaker 4: and that he himself probably liked and felt I'm developing 1746 01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,760 Speaker 4: as a player. I'm now a full time safety in 1747 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,960 Speaker 4: the NFL. My first two interceptions, over ninety tackles, five 1748 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,880 Speaker 4: pass breakups, sets some new career highs understands the scheme 1749 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,360 Speaker 4: has a really firm grasp of it, I think, and 1750 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,360 Speaker 4: he spoke to it that those things really played a 1751 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,840 Speaker 4: big role along with being that guy that was so 1752 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,200 Speaker 4: local in Pittsburgh and wants to stay here in Buffalo. 1753 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 4: That's become his second. 1754 01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,920 Speaker 2: All right, break time for us when we return, reading 1755 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,280 Speaker 2: a couple tweets off the tweet sheet before he closed 1756 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 2: things up Here on One Bill's Live, We're presented by 1757 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 2: Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. We're back on One 1758 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,479 Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Our question for you today, what is your 1759 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 2: favorite free agent signing for the Bills. We're gonna go 1760 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,559 Speaker 2: to the tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, 1761 01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,519 Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and 1762 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,559 Speaker 2: first from Kate bringing back Ty Johnson and the Joey 1763 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,360 Speaker 2: Bosas signing in hopes that he can stay healthy. 1764 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:44,639 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1765 01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 2: Ty Johnson was an important piece to Buffalo's offense down 1766 01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,880 Speaker 2: the stretch. We go back to that game against the 1767 01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,759 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions and he I don't think the Lions defense 1768 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 2: knew what was coming when we started to get him 1769 01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,960 Speaker 2: involved in things. He averaged fifty point eight yards per 1770 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 2: catch last season as a running back. 1771 01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, insane. Over one hundred yards in that game. And 1772 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,639 Speaker 4: how many times do we hear postgame Josh Allen say, 1773 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,040 Speaker 4: Ki Johnson is the best third down back in the league, 1774 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,680 Speaker 4: and I think the Bills value that in an offense 1775 01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,840 Speaker 4: that wants to utilize the running backs, not just James Cook, 1776 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,080 Speaker 4: but all of the running backs in the past game. 1777 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,720 Speaker 2: Rob says Hoyt, I really liked his film from last year. 1778 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 2: He pops when you watch him play. Scotty says, I 1779 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 2: think Derek Forrest is a sneaky good signing I could 1780 01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,360 Speaker 2: see him making a push at a starting job. I 1781 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,920 Speaker 2: love his athleticism and his hard hitting ways. You really 1782 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,320 Speaker 2: like Toyt, and you said Derek Forrest is a quick 1783 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,639 Speaker 2: guy who could be an explosive piece of this defense. 1784 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,400 Speaker 4: Those are my top two signings, Hoyt and then Derek 1785 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,200 Speaker 4: Forrest because of the juice that they bring to their 1786 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 4: respective positions. 1787 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Joey Bosa is meeting with the media right now. 1788 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,839 Speaker 2: Some other players still waiting to put pen to paper 1789 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:56,480 Speaker 2: on their new contracts. We'll hear from them later this afternoon. 1790 01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:57,320 Speaker 3: But we want to. 1791 01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning into One Bill's Live. Make sure 1792 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,679 Speaker 2: you tune in tomorrow from one to three. Chris Brown 1793 01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:05,320 Speaker 2: is gonna be back tomorrow. 1794 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:05,920 Speaker 3: Don't miss it.