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Speaker 1: So I and hey, y'all, I'm Mandy and I'm that Madley,
Speaker 1: and that means we're going to be digging into some
Speaker 1: career questions and we have some juicy ones today, some
Speaker 1: interesting ones. I might need to be a little mean
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know. Radical candor, that's what
Speaker 1: we'll call us. I like that mean right, radical because
Speaker 1: it's like a Brene Brandt Brown quote. I don't know
Speaker 1: someone made it up who was super smart. Radical candor
Speaker 1: is what we're going to go for today. Got a
Speaker 1: question from someone who is really feeling not very confident
Speaker 1: in their job anymore. And then we're going to follow
Speaker 1: that up with a woman who is wanting to launch
Speaker 1: her own business and take her online doulah business or
Speaker 1: her doula business into an online space, which is really cool.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Number one over four okay, so
Speaker 1: they want to be called over forty level of confidence. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: longtime listener, first time emailer. I have been working for
Speaker 1: an engineer company as an unlicensed engineer for the last
Speaker 1: year and a half. I've been in and out of
Speaker 1: the industry over the last fifteen years, each time starting
Speaker 1: at an entry level position. So I'm older and in
Speaker 1: an entry level position again. And a few months ago
Speaker 1: my supervisor went off on me and it really shook
Speaker 1: my confidence. I've gone to him and told him not
Speaker 1: to yell at me anymore or to perform on site
Speaker 1: on site visits. The incident occurred during my training. However,
Speaker 1: since that time, I'm not getting anything right. I'm making
Speaker 1: mistakes all over the place. I'm going along to get along,
Speaker 1: but it only makes me feel worse. What are some
Speaker 1: exercises I can do to build my confidence again? Well,
Speaker 1: this makes me sad. Yeah, but you know my first
Speaker 1: reaction is like, I'm kind of happy that your boss
Speaker 1: is paying attention because engineering is all about accuracy right
Speaker 1: and being really attention to detail. I don't know what
Speaker 1: kind of engineer you do, but like, if you're engineering
Speaker 1: an airplane that I'm going to get on, then I
Speaker 1: would like you to not make mistakes either. And it
Speaker 1: sounds like it's maybe not a realistic expectation for your
Speaker 1: boss to not do on site visits, especially if you're
Speaker 1: training like you're going to be getting that feedback. I
Speaker 1: think what's hard is that, as someone who's got fifteen
Speaker 1: years of experience, yes you say off and on, you're
Speaker 1: probably coming into it with like an attitude of I've
Speaker 1: been around the block, like I do know some things.
Speaker 1: I'm more senior, I have more experience than these other juniors,
Speaker 1: so like, why are you picking on me? And I
Speaker 1: think you need to humble yourself if you're going to
Speaker 1: be in this position and recognize is that you still
Speaker 1: may have things to learn from your supervisor in that space.
Speaker 1: And if it's shaken your confidence, I think the only
Speaker 1: exercise that will help you is to do your work well.
Speaker 1: And what do you need to do your work well?
Speaker 1: Is that feedback maybe your boss, Like maybe you've taken
Speaker 1: it so personally now like the feedback from them is
Speaker 1: going to continue to shake your confidence. But I'm going
Speaker 1: to need you to find a mentor find a colleague
Speaker 1: who's doing everything right and watch them like a hawk,
Speaker 1: even if they're twenty years younger than you, watch them
Speaker 1: like a hawk. Age is nothing when it comes to
Speaker 1: I feel like has nothing to do with whether you're
Speaker 1: capable of a job or not. But if they really
Speaker 1: understand what you guys are there to do, and they're
Speaker 1: doing things really well, then follow them and see what
Speaker 1: they're doing right and then try to emulate that. And
Speaker 1: I think it is just like eat a slice of
Speaker 1: humble pie and recognize Okay, maybe I'm not in my
Speaker 1: area of strength here and I've got some learning to do.
Speaker 1: That's all I can think of. That was radical candor,
Speaker 1: and I hope that it didn't hurt your feelings. Awesome, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're right in that one.
Speaker 2: They should not be yelling at you, you know, because
Speaker 2: you know we're all adults here. But correction is critical,
Speaker 2: you know, because to Mandy's point, I mean in all things,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. You might be a mechanical engineer,
Speaker 2: maybe you're building bridges, you know, maybe you're you know,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. You know, you're wanting your job. Your
Speaker 2: job is going to require a certain level of excellence,
Speaker 2: and so one of the best things to do is
Speaker 2: to Mandy's point is that one of the ways I
Speaker 2: had asked doctor Green this once my therapist when I
Speaker 2: was feeling not as confident, and she was like, well,
Speaker 2: the best way to feel confident is to get good
Speaker 2: as at the thing you know that that yeah, Like like,
Speaker 2: so if you're there's something that you're working on. I know,
Speaker 2: my sister is a mechanical engineer, and she would like
Speaker 2: literally on the side kind of learn new programs or
Speaker 2: take different classes to learn something new. So she felt
Speaker 2: really good about, here's my solid knowledge base. I can
Speaker 2: put it into practice, you know. So I don't know
Speaker 2: if you're you know, are their classes are there? You know,
Speaker 2: are there programs that you can order that Like she
Speaker 2: literally used to just like buy these kind of like
Speaker 2: programs on the side and just practice with them. I
Speaker 2: remember distinctly when she, like even my sister Tracy, when
Speaker 2: she was wanting to be a buyer, she like ordered
Speaker 2: kind of like these buying programs that she would just
Speaker 2: practice with. So that way, because she knew she was
Speaker 2: new to that industry, she had been in the financial
Speaker 2: industry up until then, you know, so that when she
Speaker 2: went to interviews, she can say, although, you know, I've
Speaker 2: had had this direct experience, I've got my master's in marketing,
Speaker 2: and these programs I've been doing them, you know, for
Speaker 2: the last year or just on my own, and so
Speaker 2: are there ways you can lean in to skill sets
Speaker 2: that you're self developing so you feel good about that?
Speaker 2: You know, that's the KA I mean, it is a
Speaker 2: tough space, but to me, delivering excellence breeds confidence.
Speaker 1: You know exactly. And it's like, but it's also when
Speaker 1: you say that you've been in this off and on
Speaker 1: for fifteen years, I'm almost wondering, are you dedicated to
Speaker 1: it enough to really invest that time and what is
Speaker 1: it that's keeping you like going in and out? And
Speaker 1: I know your question is just about confidence, but like,
Speaker 1: if you're wanting a career, like a real career in
Speaker 1: this field to see some upward trajectory, I'm going to
Speaker 1: guess if you even you've been in and out of it,
Speaker 1: you're not gaining skills or gaining a master of your
Speaker 1: craft to the point where you're going to be moving up.
Speaker 1: And I think you just got to, like, you know,
Speaker 1: forget about your age for a second. I don't I
Speaker 1: find that your age being forty is irrelevant. Honestly, It's
Speaker 1: just really about do you want to be really good
Speaker 1: at this one job and bring value and be recognized
Speaker 1: and move up and get more opportunities. And the best
Speaker 1: way to do that is, like TIF saying, is to
Speaker 1: really invest in your skills and grow. And you know,
Speaker 1: and of course, like I would agree, yelling is not
Speaker 1: the But I know you say they went off on
Speaker 1: you know what that means. But I'm going to assume
Speaker 1: they weren't thrilled and they let you know it in
Speaker 1: front of probably some other people. But like, what is
Speaker 1: the benefit of sitting in that and just like letting
Speaker 1: that continue to get you down? Not very much Like
Speaker 1: it's just better for you if you, you know, take
Speaker 1: it for what it's worth, take the criticism or the feedback,
Speaker 1: and then find ways to just prove them wrong, you know,
Speaker 1: and to bring that excellence. And if they look over
Speaker 1: your shoulder more often because you made some mistakes early on,
Speaker 1: then that's sort of the price to pay when you
Speaker 1: lose that trust. But you can rebuild it, you know,
Speaker 1: if you continue and you bring that excellence every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's hard, you know, like this part is
Speaker 2: gonna be hard, just because you're in this weird space.
Speaker 2: But if slowly but surely you're like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I want to do this extra work at home. I'm
Speaker 2: going to figure this thing out. I'm going to ask
Speaker 2: questions to the people in my industry. I'm going to
Speaker 2: lean in and be like, hey, because I certainly done
Speaker 2: that when I wasn't a great teacher, Like I'd be
Speaker 2: like asking my friends who really work teachers, like, so,
Speaker 2: how do you do that? Can you look at my
Speaker 2: lesson plan. Can you take, you know, and so that
Speaker 2: way I can start to see what good looked like,
Speaker 2: so I can emulate that. So good luck to you
Speaker 2: over forty confidence.
Speaker 1: Good luck to you. All right, Let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break though, and come back with our next question from
Speaker 1: a woman who is wanting to make her business more online,
Speaker 1: which is really exciting. Yes, right back, all right, be
Speaker 1: a fan. We are back with another one of your
Speaker 1: ba qa's. This is from a listener who wants to
Speaker 1: be called just a just a brown girl trying to
Speaker 1: make it if you want to read this one girl, yes, hello.
Speaker 2: First of all, I would like to say thank you
Speaker 2: for being the aunties I always wanted. Let me stop
Speaker 2: you there, sis. Here's the thing, Manny is a whole
Speaker 2: thirty five, which se me I'm gonna let you slide
Speaker 2: with that if you were in your twenties. But unless
Speaker 2: you are of the agent twenty, unless you're on the
Speaker 2: age of twenty, thirty five is not your auntie you
Speaker 2: got to be. You have to have a teen in
Speaker 2: your number to maybe called Mandy auntie. Yeah, right, Like
Speaker 2: I could see a eighteen year old be like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's my aunt Mandy. Okay, we can let that slide
Speaker 2: because you got teen, okay, but not nobody. Because I
Speaker 2: remember I had this woman that you call me auntie,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, says, I'm five years older than you.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't do that.
Speaker 2: You can't have a three in front of your number
Speaker 2: and I got a four in front of mine and
Speaker 2: I'm your auntie.
Speaker 1: No, don't do that. Like we are peers at this
Speaker 1: at this moment a test. It's not a sign of respect.
Speaker 2: So we're just we're teasing, kidding, kind of. Back to
Speaker 2: the letter, You guys are amazing. I'm righting today because
Speaker 2: I have a business that has done pretty well. However,
Speaker 2: I'd like to grow my business by having a constant income. Okay,
Speaker 2: I am a birth worker slash doula in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 2: I offer childbirth and lactation education, birth support, and postpart
Speaker 2: and support.
Speaker 1: This is great.
Speaker 2: The bulk of my income comes from labor support. However,
Speaker 2: I want to grow my business where I don't have
Speaker 2: to rely on just having labor clients. I want to
Speaker 2: be able to offer webinars online and not just in person.
Speaker 2: Really smart, I'm not sure how to go about that.
Speaker 2: I also hear you talk about CRMs, which are when
Speaker 2: I seem stand for Mandy, We'll go ahead of Google, We'll.
Speaker 1: Go customer retention marketing. Yes, basically, oh my god, the
Speaker 1: email system. I won an award for remembering that.
Speaker 2: Whoa waits you like mad me me? Or that's another
Speaker 2: popular one that the girls like, constant contact. That's a
Speaker 2: CRM for those who are like, what's that? I also
Speaker 2: hear you talk about CRMs. Can someone like me even
Speaker 2: use a CRM? I'm not even sure what I could launch.
Speaker 2: I definitely want to move forward and allow my business
Speaker 2: to make abundance of money for me so I can
Speaker 2: live all girls, so I can live my rich auntie's life.
Speaker 2: I was like, ah, be careful there, just like us.
Speaker 2: That's should I hire a business coach? Who should I
Speaker 2: lead into to help me take my business to the
Speaker 2: next level? Because I know I need help and has
Speaker 2: grown out of my comfort of knowing what to do next? Sincerely,
Speaker 2: just a brown girl trying to make it. Hey Me's no,
Speaker 2: I'm just season No, you're a budding business. I love
Speaker 2: this question because I feel like there's so much potential
Speaker 2: for her. Yeah, huge potential. Well for inst let me
Speaker 2: just welcome you on into y'all know, I'll be coaching
Speaker 2: young young brown girls in business at over at my
Speaker 2: mentor Tiffany dot com coming over, because this is the
Speaker 2: type of thing that we would like, you know, not
Speaker 2: that we talk on one on one, but you know
Speaker 2: that I would either do a lesson on which I
Speaker 2: definitely have about how to grow and and scale, or
Speaker 2: you know, we sometimes I do a Q and A.
Speaker 2: I do a live once a month where you get
Speaker 2: to like kind of lean and learn a lesson, ask questions.
Speaker 2: I bring experts in like tonight, I mean, y'all are
Speaker 2: you know you will listen to this too late, But
Speaker 2: tonight I'm having the assistant superintendent of the largest school
Speaker 2: district in Newark come to talk about how to build
Speaker 2: a curriculum that sells. So I'm excited about that. But
Speaker 2: I say all that to the same that this is great.
Speaker 2: You are in a position that so many budding or
Speaker 2: new entrepreneurs find themselves in, and that is like pre scale.
Speaker 2: So in the beginning, it's like me myself, and now
Speaker 2: that's what I got. To the end, you know, it's like,
Speaker 2: oh it's me, Tiffany. I show up in a classroom,
Speaker 2: it's me, Tiffany I. So you're asking to scale is
Speaker 2: to duplicate yourself or the process. And so that's where
Speaker 2: you are right now, which is really exciting to Mandy's point,
Speaker 2: and I love that you're already starting to realize. Okay,
Speaker 2: I have options when it comes to scaling, and certainly
Speaker 2: one of them is online education. You could also do
Speaker 2: group coaching. Maybe you could do in person group coaching.
Speaker 2: So when I scaled, I went from one on one,
Speaker 2: then I went from in person still but group, and
Speaker 2: then I went from two larger audience. So for you,
Speaker 2: you know, you might consider how mm, because.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: Online courses are getting people are getting a little exhausted
Speaker 2: by traditional online courses. That's that's what that's what the
Speaker 2: word is. And we've seen it too. We've seen a
Speaker 2: little slow down to business. I've also seen it with
Speaker 2: my friends who have online courses. And so I don't know,
Speaker 2: I would I don't want you to like maybe take
Speaker 2: the full leap into online courses, consider kind of maybe
Speaker 2: doing someone off. That's what I would see, just to
Speaker 2: test the market, to see if there's interest there of
Speaker 2: like teaching, Like, hey, I'm going to teach this class
Speaker 2: you If it was me, I'd want to align myself
Speaker 2: with like mommy groups like you know, pre mommy book groups,
Speaker 2: like especially first time moms who are like what am
Speaker 2: I what?
Speaker 1: You know? What can I expect?
Speaker 2: Like? Are there groups in Houston, Texas that you can
Speaker 2: go and visit? Maybe they can hire you to come
Speaker 2: speak or maybe you speak for free, and then from
Speaker 2: there you let them know I do this coaching on
Speaker 2: the side. So that's probably would be my next before
Speaker 2: I jumped into building out a whole course at webinar
Speaker 2: or whatever, I would test my theory that there is
Speaker 2: an appetite for this by looking to maybe do some
Speaker 2: group things. So I'm assuming the labor stuff that you do.
Speaker 2: It's like you with one single mother, you know, with
Speaker 2: one not single mother, but one individual woman, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's what I would ask myself, is this possible
Speaker 2: for me to do this with a group?
Speaker 1: What does that look like?
Speaker 2: And so I would explore that before jumping out the
Speaker 2: window to create like a course or webinar or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I personally love slow and steady. When's
Speaker 2: the race type of growth? I know some people like
Speaker 2: to have explosive growth, which which can be fine but
Speaker 2: can also be overwhelming, and it's not always telling about
Speaker 2: whether or not that's something that can be sustained. And
Speaker 2: so like, yeah, I would be looking for what is
Speaker 2: the next step versus the next leap, you know, And
Speaker 2: I think that you know, maybe in person group coaching
Speaker 2: might be a nice step and see if those people
Speaker 2: will be interested in something online with you and then
Speaker 2: moving from.
Speaker 1: There, hold that thought and we'll be right back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that when you say you are a birth
Speaker 1: birth and coach slash doulah and you also do lactation support,
Speaker 1: I feel like there is such a I mean, your
Speaker 1: audience is birthing humans, people who are giving birth, so
Speaker 1: you have such a wide audience. I mean, my feeling
Speaker 1: about online courses is and I hear tiff what you're
Speaker 1: saying about the you know, like the waning interest in it,
Speaker 1: and I do feel like, I mean, I think that
Speaker 1: you could say about anything right now. In the economy
Speaker 1: that we're in, people are just more tight with their
Speaker 1: dollars and they want to be sure that they're spending
Speaker 1: money on something that is absolutely for them. And your
Speaker 1: your key, you know, the key hurdle you have to
Speaker 1: overcome when you are trying to pivot something online or
Speaker 1: even just any business is figuring out who's your core market,
Speaker 1: who's your audience, and creating an offer that they it's
Speaker 1: it's it's completely apparent to them that this is exactly
Speaker 1: for me. And that was an exercise that I went
Speaker 1: through with my business. Is making sure that I am
Speaker 1: speaking to her. I am speaking to the woman who
Speaker 1: goes on LinkedIn and you know doesn't even want to
Speaker 1: look at her feed because she's sick of seeing everyone
Speaker 1: else post about new jobs or they just got a promotion,
Speaker 1: you know, the person who's got twelve different versions of
Speaker 1: their resume and still can't land a job. Like I've
Speaker 1: thought deep and hard about the specific person that I'm
Speaker 1: speaking to and for you that you know, maybe you
Speaker 1: already know because you've been in business for a while,
Speaker 1: but tips right, like you want to get that like
Speaker 1: focus group, you want to talk to women, talk to sorry,
Speaker 1: people who give birth? What are they needing? What are
Speaker 1: they wanting? You know, there's a whole market, I feel
Speaker 1: like for support after the birth, you know, like postpartum support,
Speaker 1: which you say that you offer and I mean I
Speaker 1: was talking to a mom at my son's daycare and
Speaker 1: she just bought a course on how to get her
Speaker 1: son to sleep through the night, and there's and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, did you do this one? And she's like, no,
Speaker 1: I did that one. There's a bunch of them out there,
Speaker 1: you know, So there is there is definitely a market
Speaker 1: for definitely an appetite, and I don't want you to
Speaker 1: get stuck on like I think I had this idea,
Speaker 1: how could I get there? So that's where I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, yes, I agree, you know, some in person
Speaker 1: coaching might be helpful, but I also feel like finding
Speaker 1: people who are competitors potential competitors in your space, but
Speaker 1: like let them show you that it's possible if you
Speaker 1: find other people who are you know, they have lactation
Speaker 1: consultant consultancies and they have an online you know, component
Speaker 1: of what they teach, Like find other examples of people
Speaker 1: out there doing the thing that you want to do.
Speaker 1: Not to make yourself feel like there's no space for you,
Speaker 1: but to make you feel like it's possible and you
Speaker 1: can like connect with them and learn from them and start,
Speaker 1: you know, being and start growing your community of like
Speaker 1: minded entrepreneurs as well as far as like the marketing side.
Speaker 1: I would say, if you don't already have a way
Speaker 1: to capture emails from your clients, like you have to
Speaker 1: get something, get some sort of very basic I think
Speaker 1: in that when we say CRM, we're probably talking about
Speaker 1: just like an email an email platform, you know, like
Speaker 1: I use flow desk, you use the big one once
Speaker 1: it called it keep. But also to active campaigns is
Speaker 1: a good one. I'll let you. Okay, yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: bunch out there.
Speaker 2: But if you mail like what used to be called
Speaker 2: key that was, that's like the gold star like but
Speaker 2: it's expensive.
Speaker 1: So I tell people that's what you level up too. Later.
Speaker 1: Yeah you really. I mean it's like you can do
Speaker 1: a sign up sheet, you know at your events, like
Speaker 1: just get their emails, write them down, or you can
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of ways to capture email that you
Speaker 1: want to. You want to find a way to speak
Speaker 1: to the people who were interested in working with you,
Speaker 1: because as you're going to build this business, you're going
Speaker 1: to want to be able to reach back out to them,
Speaker 1: you know, when it's six months from now and you've
Speaker 1: got something that you're launching. So a lead magnet could
Speaker 1: be something small for you to start with, like can
Speaker 1: you create the ten lactation tips to save you from
Speaker 1: cracked nipples? You know, because ouch, right, no one wants
Speaker 1: a cracked nipple. It's as bad as it sants. Okay,
Speaker 1: So if you have something that you can like package
Speaker 1: together and just like and it's your area of expertise,
Speaker 1: so it shouldn't take you that long to create it,
Speaker 1: you know, Like for me, it's my four free scripts
Speaker 1: to ask for a raise, you know, I put that
Speaker 1: together and people download it for free and they give
Speaker 1: their email and that's how you can stay in touch
Speaker 1: with them. But you can find some free like email software,
Speaker 1: flow desk is free. It's you know, I don't like,
Speaker 1: I'm not affiliated with them in any other way than
Speaker 1: I use their product. But there are some you know,
Speaker 1: just like just do just get the basic version of
Speaker 1: whatever you think you need to to email these people
Speaker 1: and you can always like grow with your tech, like
Speaker 1: you can always get tech improved technology. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: always like level up, but find something to start and
Speaker 1: you hire a business coach. Sorry, oh that's right now,
Speaker 1: you raph forget about that part.
Speaker 2: And I'll say there's two that there are I remember
Speaker 2: there's this woman who I met, this black woman who
Speaker 2: had like this lactation snack business that's in target where women,
Speaker 2: you know, it would help with their lactation.
Speaker 1: I thought that was great.
Speaker 2: But imagine partnering with organizations like you know, things like
Speaker 2: that that they don't do what you do. But the
Speaker 2: benefit is that, like you can share their product and
Speaker 2: so maybe you do some lives with them where it's
Speaker 2: like educational lives.
Speaker 1: And so one of the best ways.
Speaker 2: To get people to see you as like the go
Speaker 2: to is for them to see you as an expert
Speaker 2: because of what you teach and how you teach, you know,
Speaker 2: So just consider like that too, that you're not supposed
Speaker 2: to do out here alone, Like you know, partnership is critical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And where are you showing up and showing your
Speaker 1: excellence right now? And can people find you?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: Like and you know, where are people discovering you? You
Speaker 1: have to be discovered outside of just your client base.
Speaker 1: So is that going to be social media? Is it
Speaker 1: going to be like Tiff said, you can partner with
Speaker 1: like I found electation consultant through my hospital. I found
Speaker 1: one through my prenatal yoga studio that I went to
Speaker 1: you could do zooms where because I used I remember
Speaker 1: when I had my first son, I was stressed about breastfeeding,
Speaker 1: as most first time moms are. Am I doing it right?
Speaker 1: Is he getting enough? You can't tell? And they had
Speaker 1: like this little group at my hospital and I had
Speaker 1: to go in person, but you would sit in a
Speaker 1: room and just breastfeed together. And they'd like, but you
Speaker 1: could do that a virtual version of that, you know,
Speaker 1: just to like get moms together, look at their latch
Speaker 1: and make sure it's right. Get them, you know. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to quickly say though, and we're we could
Speaker 1: do a whole series on this whole question. But about
Speaker 1: the business coach thing. When I had gotten my proof
Speaker 1: of concept with Mandy money Makers, when I had I
Speaker 1: did it, you know quick, I did it like not dirty,
Speaker 1: but I didn't wait for it to be perfect. But
Speaker 1: like I did my focus grouping by doing the free
Speaker 1: career coaching, and then I launched what I thought was
Speaker 1: a good webinar to then launch my online course and
Speaker 1: my community Mandy money Makers, and I did like three
Speaker 1: versions of that, and then I enrolled in a business
Speaker 1: coaching like a program and it was like a group
Speaker 1: coaching program. So it wasn't like I had a dedicated
Speaker 1: business coach. I did get a couple of one on ones,
Speaker 1: but it was me taking their course on how to
Speaker 1: sort of do what you're talking about, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: really just like make your business, you know, bring in
Speaker 1: this different income streams online with your business. That's at
Speaker 1: that point I was when I hired the business coach
Speaker 1: and did their program, and I think that that worked
Speaker 1: for me because you will get stuck in the beginning
Speaker 1: of any good program doing that work anyway of like
Speaker 1: finding your perfect customer, working on your you know, your
Speaker 1: marketing and your message. And I had kind of done
Speaker 1: a lot of that work in advance, and I felt
Speaker 1: really ready to just like enroll in this and get
Speaker 1: the template and like the curriculum or the blueprint that
Speaker 1: I needed to you know, create like a smooth running
Speaker 1: online business in that way. So and the woman that
Speaker 1: I worked with, and I do not get any affiliate
Speaker 1: from her anything like that, but that was we had
Speaker 1: her as a guest on the show. Natalia Copeland is
Speaker 1: my as the coach that I worked with in Talia
Speaker 1: Copeland and her her program is called the Fast Academy fast,
Speaker 1: so check her out, but also check out my mentor
Speaker 1: tifany that gap yeah us not too much more affordable
Speaker 1: ten bucks a month now, which is still super affordable,
Speaker 1: but yeah, oh okay, it's a.
Speaker 2: Good place to like baby tip your your toe in.
Speaker 2: It's like I call it like mentorship. But there's also
Speaker 2: a lot of peer to peer, which is really critical.
Speaker 2: I always say you should have mentors and sponsors. You
Speaker 2: have a handful of those, way more peers, people who
Speaker 2: are in a similar spot than you can like bounce
Speaker 2: things off of, learn things from, and then mentees of
Speaker 2: your own because it keeps your skills sharp helping other people.
Speaker 2: So mentors, peers, mentees. It's just like that's kind of
Speaker 2: like the the grouping that I like to have that
Speaker 2: I've seen create success for myself and others.
Speaker 1: So we wish you luck. Girl, you know, cousin, don't
Speaker 1: give up. I feel like this is I'm excited for you.
Speaker 1: Don't want updates, updates, all right, just a brown girl
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