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Speaker 1: I told the people that may would be so happy.

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Speaker 2: We are not your financial advisor. We're not your doctor, Yalloya,

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Speaker 2: But we're just here to give some advice that you're

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Speaker 1: So that's it, Okay, get yourself shake us out. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So I and hey, y'all, I'm Mandy and I'm that Madley,

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Speaker 1: longtime listener, first time emailer. I have been working for

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Speaker 1: And if it's shaken your confidence, I think the only

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Speaker 1: And what do you need to do your work well?

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Speaker 1: Is that feedback maybe your boss, Like maybe you've taken

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Speaker 1: to need you to find a mentor find a colleague

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Speaker 1: That's all I can think of. That was radical candor,

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Speaker 2: you know, because to Mandy's point, I mean in all things,

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Speaker 2: and so one of the best things to do is

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Speaker 2: had asked doctor Green this once my therapist when I

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Speaker 1: You know exactly. And it's like, but it's also when

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Speaker 1: it's just better for you if you, you know, take

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Speaker 1: if you continue and you bring that excellence every day.

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Speaker 1: a sign up sheet, you know at your events, like

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Speaker 1: just get their emails, write them down, or you can

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of ways to capture email that you

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Speaker 1: want to. You want to find a way to speak

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Speaker 1: to the people who were interested in working with you,

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Speaker 1: because as you're going to build this business, you're going

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Speaker 1: to want to be able to reach back out to them,

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Speaker 1: you know, when it's six months from now and you've

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Speaker 1: got something that you're launching. So a lead magnet could

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Speaker 1: be something small for you to start with, like can

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Speaker 1: you create the ten lactation tips to save you from

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Speaker 1: cracked nipples? You know, because ouch, right, no one wants

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Speaker 1: a cracked nipple. It's as bad as it sants. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So if you have something that you can like package

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Speaker 1: so it shouldn't take you that long to create it,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like for me, it's my four free scripts

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Speaker 1: to ask for a raise, you know, I put that

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Speaker 1: together and people download it for free and they give

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Speaker 1: their email and that's how you can stay in touch

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Speaker 1: with them. But you can find some free like email software,

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Speaker 1: flow desk is free. It's you know, I don't like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not affiliated with them in any other way than

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Speaker 1: I use their product. But there are some you know,

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Speaker 1: just like just do just get the basic version of

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Speaker 1: whatever you think you need to to email these people

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Speaker 1: and you can always like grow with your tech, like

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Speaker 1: you can always get tech improved technology. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: always like level up, but find something to start and

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Speaker 1: you hire a business coach. Sorry, oh that's right now,

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Speaker 1: you raph forget about that part.

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Speaker 2: And I'll say there's two that there are I remember

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Speaker 2: there's this woman who I met, this black woman who

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Speaker 2: had like this lactation snack business that's in target where women,

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Speaker 2: you know, it would help with their lactation.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was great.

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Speaker 2: But imagine partnering with organizations like you know, things like

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Speaker 2: that that they don't do what you do. But the

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Speaker 2: benefit is that, like you can share their product and

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Speaker 2: so maybe you do some lives with them where it's

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Speaker 2: like educational lives.

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Speaker 1: And so one of the best ways.

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Speaker 2: To get people to see you as like the go

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Speaker 2: to is for them to see you as an expert

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Speaker 2: because of what you teach and how you teach, you know,

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Speaker 2: So just consider like that too, that you're not supposed

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Speaker 2: to do out here alone, Like you know, partnership is critical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And where are you showing up and showing your

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Speaker 1: excellence right now? And can people find you?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: Like and you know, where are people discovering you? You

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Speaker 1: have to be discovered outside of just your client base.

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Speaker 1: So is that going to be social media? Is it

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Speaker 1: going to be like Tiff said, you can partner with

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Speaker 1: like I found electation consultant through my hospital. I found

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Speaker 1: one through my prenatal yoga studio that I went to

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Speaker 1: you could do zooms where because I used I remember

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Speaker 1: when I had my first son, I was stressed about breastfeeding,

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Speaker 1: as most first time moms are. Am I doing it right?

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Speaker 1: Is he getting enough? You can't tell? And they had

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Speaker 1: like this little group at my hospital and I had

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Speaker 1: to go in person, but you would sit in a

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Speaker 1: room and just breastfeed together. And they'd like, but you

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Speaker 1: could do that a virtual version of that, you know,

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Speaker 1: just to like get moms together, look at their latch

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Speaker 1: and make sure it's right. Get them, you know. I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to quickly say though, and we're we could

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Speaker 1: do a whole series on this whole question. But about

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Speaker 1: the business coach thing. When I had gotten my proof

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Speaker 1: of concept with Mandy money Makers, when I had I

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Speaker 1: did it, you know quick, I did it like not dirty,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't wait for it to be perfect. But

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Speaker 1: like I did my focus grouping by doing the free

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Speaker 1: career coaching, and then I launched what I thought was

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Speaker 1: a good webinar to then launch my online course and

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Speaker 1: my community Mandy money Makers, and I did like three

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Speaker 1: versions of that, and then I enrolled in a business

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Speaker 1: coaching like a program and it was like a group

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Speaker 1: coaching program. So it wasn't like I had a dedicated

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Speaker 1: business coach. I did get a couple of one on ones,

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Speaker 1: but it was me taking their course on how to

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Speaker 1: sort of do what you're talking about, which is, you know,

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Speaker 1: really just like make your business, you know, bring in

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Speaker 1: this different income streams online with your business. That's at

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Speaker 1: that point I was when I hired the business coach

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Speaker 1: and did their program, and I think that that worked

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Speaker 1: for me because you will get stuck in the beginning

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Speaker 1: of any good program doing that work anyway of like

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Speaker 1: finding your perfect customer, working on your you know, your

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Speaker 1: marketing and your message. And I had kind of done

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Speaker 1: a lot of that work in advance, and I felt

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Speaker 1: really ready to just like enroll in this and get

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Speaker 1: the template and like the curriculum or the blueprint that

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Speaker 1: I needed to you know, create like a smooth running

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Speaker 1: online business in that way. So and the woman that

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Speaker 1: I worked with, and I do not get any affiliate

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Speaker 1: from her anything like that, but that was we had

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Speaker 1: her as a guest on the show. Natalia Copeland is

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Speaker 1: my as the coach that I worked with in Talia

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Speaker 1: Copeland and her her program is called the Fast Academy fast,

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Speaker 1: so check her out, but also check out my mentor

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Speaker 1: tifany that gap yeah us not too much more affordable

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Speaker 1: ten bucks a month now, which is still super affordable,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, oh okay, it's a.

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Speaker 2: Good place to like baby tip your your toe in.

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Speaker 2: It's like I call it like mentorship. But there's also

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Speaker 2: a lot of peer to peer, which is really critical.

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Speaker 2: I always say you should have mentors and sponsors. You

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Speaker 2: have a handful of those, way more peers, people who

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Speaker 2: are in a similar spot than you can like bounce

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Speaker 2: things off of, learn things from, and then mentees of

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Speaker 2: your own because it keeps your skills sharp helping other people.

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Speaker 2: So mentors, peers, mentees. It's just like that's kind of

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Speaker 2: like the the grouping that I like to have that

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Speaker 2: I've seen create success for myself and others.

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Speaker 1: So we wish you luck. Girl, you know, cousin, don't

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Speaker 1: give up. I feel like this is I'm excited for you.

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Speaker 1: Don't want updates, updates, all right, just a brown girl

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Speaker 1: trying to make it. We forgive you for calling us

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Speaker 1: aunties and it's all good. And I think that's it

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Speaker 1: for b a QA. If y'all want to send us

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Speaker 1: your questions again, You can hit us up on ig

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Speaker 1: We're at Brand Ambission Podcast, or go to our website

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