1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: the truth lives here. Pack twelve Apostles Apostles. We have 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: an interview from Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham. Mustafa Johnson 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: gets another year. The biggest threat to Pack twelve games 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: this year is not coronavirus. It is air quality. L 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: A County guidelines and vaccination rates are going to determine 8 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: usc S and u c l a's future in Arizona State. 9 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: What is their vaccination status? Because some things don't make sense, 10 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: Nick Rolovich, he gets sued. And of course our week 11 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: zero recap and our Week one predictions, I'm George Rice 12 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Stir He's Ralph Ams that and this is the Pack 13 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: twelve Apostles, the Pac twelve Apostles as the podcast Bypack 14 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: twelve fans, four Pack twelve fans where you get the 15 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: absolute truth, facts only, and of course no BS is allowed. 16 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: We keep it one hundred. So, Ralph Week zero we 17 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: just finished and I clearly killed it, and I'm going 18 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: to destroy you this offseason. Okay, well sorry, this season 19 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: we went one and one. We both did so I mean, 20 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: if you're counting all picks, I think you went in 21 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: two and three and I went one and four, so 22 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: you definitely beat me. But as far as pack twelve, 23 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: we're both sitting at one and one right now. You 24 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: got the spread right, I got the under correctly if 25 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm remembering. Yeah. And that was the U c l 26 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: A Hawaii game you had a vested interest in because 27 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: you are a Todd Graham guy. Okay, you didn't so 28 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: what I thought that they would be a little bit 29 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: better than they were in the passing game they were 30 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: putrid um data Hunter who I covered in high school, 31 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: dropped a touchdown the end zone that wouldn't have made 32 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: a difference. They were Hawaii was clearly overmatched and U 33 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: c l A looked good except for maybe one position, 34 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: and we will talk about that in a little bit. 35 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: But U c l A covered the seventeen and a 36 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: half and if it, if it weren't for Hawaii's terrible play, 37 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: we would have got to the to the over Wait 38 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: was the Hawaii's terrible play or was it um the 39 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: great play of U c l A's defense. U c 40 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: l as defense deserves a lot of credit. They looked 41 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: like they were on in an all linebacker defense out there. 42 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: They look like they had thirty players on the field 43 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: at some point. Yeah, they did, dude, they absolutely crushed him. Um. 44 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: All right, So there are a bunch of games this 45 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: week and we will get to those and just a 46 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: little bit. But first we're gonna start out with the 47 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: news of the Pack twelve and um. Mustapha Johnson is 48 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: a player who ended up getting a second, well another 49 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: year to come back and play college football despite entering 50 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: into the draft last year in Ralph. You you can 51 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: tell them about that. Yeah. So Michael Turk, the Arizona 52 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: State punter, went to the NFL Combine a couple of 53 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: years ago put up reps on the bench which well, 54 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: I think he was probably doing too much because he's 55 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: a punter. Um, but he went all out and broke 56 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: probably the all special teamers ever record for bench press reps. 57 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: But then because of COVID didn't get to go out 58 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: and really do any interviews with any teams or anything 59 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: like that. So he was able to apply when receive 60 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: an exemption when he didn't get drafted to come back 61 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: to Arizona State. Spent the last year there is on 62 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: a state and because he has a religious reason for 63 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: not wanting to get vaccinated, ultimately ended up transferring to 64 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: the University of Oklahoma to finish out his career, where 65 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: he'll be eligible for like three NFL drafts in a row. UM, 66 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: but Mustafa Johnson is the first player that I'm hearing 67 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: of to follow in UM that that wake of of 68 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: what Michael Turk did. The interesting thing about Mustafa Johnson 69 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: is he went the junior college route. He then played 70 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: two years for Colorado. Both times UM was mentioned in 71 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: in postseason awards as far as being all packed twelve 72 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: and then him not getting drafted. I'm not sure what 73 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: ultimately he was able to sighte UM, but he instantly 74 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: probably becomes at least the second best, if not the best, 75 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: defender on University of Colorado's roster, though I don't expect 76 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: him to be completely up to speed for UM their 77 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: opening slate of games. That might be a little bit, 78 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: but this is somebody with twenty three quarterback hurries, UM, 79 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: sixteen third down stops too, forced fumbles and uh he 80 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: returned to fumble for a touchdown, so and and and 81 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: he's got thirteen sacks, so that's a huge boost. I 82 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: love for Colorado. Well, I love this not for Colorado, 83 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: but just for like players. The NFL should operate more 84 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: like the NBA, which is you put your name in 85 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: the in the draft, you go through the combine all 86 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: of that if and then they give you a grade, 87 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: and then if it's not, you can go back to school. 88 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: That's the way it should be. I agree. I agree 89 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: that there's some players that that I've been big fans 90 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: of throughout my time in college football that I got 91 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: really upset that they thought that they were ready. It 92 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: seemed fairly obvious to everybody in the world that they 93 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: were not. And then they're just done. I remember Wyoming 94 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: had a quarterback named Brett Smith who was a fantastic player, 95 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: and he he tried to use um his his stats 96 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: to to slingshot him into being an NFL pick, and 97 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: not only did he not get picked, he didn't even 98 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I got a camp in bite. He 99 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: ended up um trying out for a CFL team and 100 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: not making it. When you know, when he was he 101 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: was doing really really well. Get you in the league. 102 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: Like I tell kids this all the time, they was like, yo, 103 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: my stats are don't nobody care about your stats. They 104 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: care about what they believe that you can do at 105 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: the next level. Those are things Shary Crosswell was won 106 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: this last year. That said, the plan is the plan. 107 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: He was always gonna be three years. So he doesn't 108 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: care if he's gonna get drafted or not. He's sticking 109 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: to the plan. Do you realize how stupid that is? 110 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: That's but how how are you going to tell somebody? Yeah, 111 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: but it's flawed thinking the the the plan is the plan. 112 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: You will what you made the plan four years ago, dude, 113 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: So when you get new information, you adjust your plans. Yeah, 114 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: and he I mean that he got brought into a 115 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: camp with the Seahawks, but they let him go. I remember. 116 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: But but every once in a while there's somebody who 117 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: bets on themselves and they end up being right. I 118 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: was pretty against Lawrence guy back in the day, um 119 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: coming out early. But he's he's like a tenure NFL 120 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: veteran now and and and he's a guy who was 121 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: dyslexic and so school was terrible for him. Um, but 122 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean he and he was just named uh the 123 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: he just got the Ron Burton Community Service Award with 124 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots. He's really ingrained himself to to them. He 125 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: played his college balltears on a state. But it's just 126 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: crazy easy that ten years down down the road after 127 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: leaving early, I think he was a seventh round pick. 128 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: He's still in the league. But that's the exception, not 129 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: the rules, correct and um, And this is a situation 130 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: to where you know, players have to be very careful 131 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: and note that they are you know, and understand where 132 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: they are in the temperature in in the world. I 133 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: do think though that isn't very important for us to 134 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: acknowledge what happened on last week's podcast Okay with with Nirvana, 135 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: where we derailed the entire show for Nirvana, and then 136 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: I put out a pole that of which band was 137 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: bigger Nirvana, bon Jovi or who who's the third? Red 138 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Hot Chili Peppers, and Nirvanna got like the votes three, 139 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: let's not sure change them and then the other two 140 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: where a split as well, so Nirvana one but like, 141 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: let's not But there was a lot of people who 142 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: commented on it, and we're saying that they commented up 143 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: bon Jovi, they commented Red Hot Chili Peppers like there 144 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: was it wasn't just a total wipe out and stupid 145 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: like you made it out to be. It definitely was, 146 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: especially if you split the field and you get over 147 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: half of the vote going to one third of the 148 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: of the contenders. That's absolutely a blowout in an election. 149 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: You would make fun of the other two people who 150 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: were running for even trying if that was the result. 151 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: But what people were criticizing us for was that the 152 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: question was kind of bizarre. It was which was the 153 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: most important band and which was the most popular band? 154 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Because people can make an argument for the longevity of 155 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: Red Hot Chili Peppers or longevity of bon Jovi to 156 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: say that they're more popular, but but neither No one's 157 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: going to try to make an argument that that Nirvana 158 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: is not the most influential. Obviously things were cut short 159 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: for them. I can't believe that this is going on 160 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: across two podcasts that we do, going on over a 161 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: week now. Um, I'm not gonna lie. I listened to 162 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: the episode Back the Pack twelve episode Back with my 163 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: wife to get her take on it. I thought she 164 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: was going to fight the speaker. Um. I felt myself 165 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: just kind of tensing up again. It is such a bizarre. 166 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: It's just such a bizarre thing that that that that 167 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: you missed out on that thing. And I mean it's 168 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: it would be one thing if we could point to 169 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: something or like your wife did and say that like 170 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: it's cultural or something like that. But you you were 171 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: not limited to just one genre music and you never 172 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: have been. And so um yeah, now we we did 173 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: get a lot of feedback on In fact, our only 174 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: review this week was somebody saying that they got to 175 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: kick out of out of the Nirvana discussion. So welcome 176 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: to a new listener. Yep, And okay, can you can 177 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: you say the word can you say the name of 178 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: the band again, Nirvana, Nirvana? Exactly where sat NERF gun 179 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: NERF gun sayt Nirvana Nirvana? What are you doing? Bro? 180 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: This is what it okay, Brop, It's all right, Bro, 181 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: It's all right, you can It's it's okay to be wrong. Um. 182 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: Speaking of being wrong, though, you have Nick Rolovich, who 183 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: is the head coach at Washington State, who is clearly 184 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: appears to be on a timeline of August of October 185 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: fift to get the vaccine or be put on lead, 186 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: be fired, or something along those those lines. Well we 187 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: don't know what he's chosen to do. I have a 188 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: good hunch and Ralph knows why. But um, and now 189 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: he's being sued by his former player Cassidy Woods, who 190 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: was essentially pushed out of the program last year because 191 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: he decided that COVID was that the risk was too 192 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: high for him, and that he opted out of the season. 193 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: And now we understand why. Nick Rolovich probably did that 194 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: because he's been unwilling to get the vaccine, so maybe 195 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: that's why he pushed him out. Yeah. UM, there are 196 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: a lot of things going on with Cassidy Woods last 197 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: year were two very big things in particular, One is 198 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: that he didn't feel comfortable playing during COVID. We didn't 199 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: have a ton of information at that point, and people 200 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: were given the opportunity to opt out. UM. Coaches were 201 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: then left to make the decision whether or not somebody 202 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: is opting out due to COVID means that they're no 203 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: longer included in any team zoom and M meetings or 204 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: or UM group chats or anything like that, because they're 205 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: not technically part of the team. I think that any 206 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: coach who did something like that made a huge mistake. UM. 207 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: I know that there were a few the players that 208 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: opted out for COVID last year, like Jordan Curley at 209 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: Arizona State UM and and in this case Cassidy Woods 210 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: at Washington State. Not a lot of them ended up 211 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: returning to that college. And you can take a couple 212 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: of views on that that maybe they opted out because 213 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: they didn't feel like they were a good fit anyway, 214 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: or maybe they opted out because they had legitimate health concerns. 215 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: Either way, the decision to UM sort of excommunicate somebody 216 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: from what's going on with the team just because they're 217 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: not going to be in the building because they have 218 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: concerns for their own safety is a choice that has consequences. 219 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: The other The other thing could be that maybe their 220 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: distraction if they're UM not part of what you're doing, 221 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: but they're privy to the things that you're doing. You know, 222 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: maybe that's not something you want. But any decision is 223 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: going to have some type of butterfly effect Beyond that, 224 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: Cassie Woods was also part of the the PAC twelve 225 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: movement that we are United thing, uh who, the movement 226 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: that was essentially derailed by the timing of the pandemic, 227 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: where they wanted a greater foothold and say and push 228 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: toward equity within the conference as players. These is all 229 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: are all things that kind of preempted name, image and 230 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: lightness finally getting pushed through. I think what happened in 231 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve was an important step, though you can 232 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: make the argument that it didn't amount to really anything 233 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: as far as pack twelve players coming together to unite 234 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: for for for a common purpose or cause. It's pretty 235 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: clear that Nick Rolovich thought that whole thing was stupid 236 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: and a distraction. And in the phone call that was 237 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: recorded with Cassidy Woods, he said, you know you're we're 238 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: going to honor your scholarship this year, but basically like 239 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: if you're part of that, we can't guarantee what's going 240 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: to happen moving forward. UM. And that that right there 241 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: is the reason that he's getting sued. And then a 242 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: reporter UM down in Arizona, who I've done some work with, 243 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: Chris Bone, he actually uh filed a foyer request to 244 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: get the any and all communications about UM about what 245 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: happened from Nick Rolovich, and he actually texted from his 246 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: phone to the rest of the coaching staff like, Hey, 247 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: be careful because it's possible that you're you're being recorded, UM, 248 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: and so you know, I don't know that. He also said. 249 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: Nick Rolovich said, UM, Cassie Woods has decided to opt 250 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: out plan accordingly. I will address this tomorrow night. But 251 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: there are two ways to opt out in my mind 252 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: because of COVID or joining the group mentioned in the 253 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: in the UH in the message that we are United 254 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: movement that will have an effect on their future with us. 255 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: Anyone that opts out either way will not be in 256 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: the locker room or doing any football activities with our 257 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: team this year. He was surprised by this statement, so 258 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: that whole thing of of joining the we Are United 259 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: will affect people's future with with Washington State. You have 260 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: to find a way to make the argument if you're 261 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: Nick Rolovich that what you're saying is you were looking 262 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: out for them, that you weren't being the union buster, 263 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: but you were actually looking out for their best interest. 264 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough UM for for him to do. UH. 265 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: This lawsuit is just another distraction. And people talked about 266 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: maybe the animosity between UM A. D. Pat Chun and 267 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: UH head coach Nick Rolovich, but this lawsuit indicates very 268 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: strongly the pat Chun backed up nick Rolovich at every 269 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: single step last year when it came to UHM removing 270 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: Cassidy Woods access from the team in every possible way. Yeah. Um, yeah, 271 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: this was something that is clearly a big deal. Are 272 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: you in on the lawsuit, Like, do you think he's 273 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: gonna win? I think that discovery is important in this situation, 274 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: and I think that it's important that it sets a 275 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: precedent for the rest of the league and how you 276 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: might handle an athlete. Um. I think it's an important lawsuit. 277 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: The success of it, uh, I couldn't tell you. It 278 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: really depends on what they're what they're alleging. Brian Floyd, UM, 279 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: who's a great follow on Twitter and as University of 280 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: is a Washington State University alum who is who is 281 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: sick of Nick Rolovich and has been calling for him 282 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: to be fired ever since he came out and said 283 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: that he wouldn't be getting the vaccine. UM. Brian Floyd 284 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: says that essentially, this lawsuit alleges that um Cassidy Woods 285 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: First and fourteenth Amendment rights were violated, and so you 286 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: know that that is something that judges live to to 287 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: address of whether or not something is constitutional. So my 288 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: guess is you know that this this could actually, uh 289 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: go kind of far and I don't know. It's all 290 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: these things are a distraction. You don't want stuff like this. 291 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: Ray Anderson is still in the middle of being sued 292 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: at Arizona State by UM by a former employee who 293 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: they fired. You just hate to have this type of 294 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: stuff um Linger around the program. I'm not rooting for 295 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: Cassidy Woods or anything like that. What I'm rooting for 296 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: is discovery and truth for everything to come out about about, 297 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, how he was treated and why, and what 298 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: the attitude of the program was about both the We 299 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: Are United movement and and opting out due to COVID 300 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: In general, if if something is permissible by the n 301 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: c double A and a coach stands opposed to it, 302 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: then too bad. You're paid a lot of money, like 303 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: you get over it. Yeah, And now this continues into 304 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: Nikolovich's vaccination status and also the team's vaccination status is 305 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: and that leads us to the the teams because when 306 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: you look back, John Wilner put out August eighteen, the 307 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: vaccination figures from each team, you at u C l 308 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: A at ninety nine percent, which I'm sorry, nine percent, 309 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: which only left one person. They may be at a 310 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: hundred percent. Now there are a couple of other teams 311 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: at a hundred percent. Arizona's at ninety seven percent. Washington 312 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: State at that point in time, I'm sorry, Washington at 313 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: that point in time was above ninety five percent. Colorado 314 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: was at ninety five, Oregon was in between ninety and 315 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: ninety five, Utah in USC above ninety. I think USC 316 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: has at a hundred percent now. Oregon State was at 317 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: eight eight. Stanfords was at eighty five and they've climbed 318 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: since then. Washington State was the lowest available at eighty 319 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: and you had Arizona State who wouldn't put out their 320 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: vaccine information and neither would cow And and that led me. 321 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: I was like, bro, this is weird right because Arizona State, 322 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: and I know we're gonna get some emails about this 323 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: Georgia reveling in this Arizona State thing. I'm like, Okay, 324 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense because their university cited the policy 325 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: declining to provide vaccine data, but we also learned that 326 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: they may not be even providing data to the conference. 327 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: And then that goes back to even last season where 328 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: it was puzzling and troubling, like if you if you 329 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: look at Arizona State season, Like, let's just use pure 330 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: logic here. The PAC twelve put in testing procedures to 331 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: test UH antigen testing on a daily basis. Yeah, Arizona 332 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: State goes to go play USC and then they come 333 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: back and have an outbreak and have to miss four 334 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: games of their season, Like, how does that happen when 335 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: they are you know, if they did things the right way? Like, 336 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: I don't know how this makes any any sense. And 337 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: I think that this is something that's worth asking questions 338 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: about and trying to figure out answers about because the 339 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: protocols and what happened don't make sense. And then you 340 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: consider that everybody else is releasing their testing data and 341 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: their vaccine status data, and there are sources have said 342 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: that they are below well below every other team, including 343 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: Washington State, so rail. I don't know what's going on 344 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: in Tempe, but when you coupled this with the other stuff, 345 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: it looks bad. Yeah. I mean, I have a lot 346 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: that i'd I'd like to say about what's going on 347 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: in Arizona State. I do know that Ryan Abraham um 348 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: Over at the podcast of Champions brought up that there 349 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: are whispers that there was some type of impropriety that 350 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: caused Arizona State to miss games after playing USC. I mean, 351 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with that. I said that on 352 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: the podcast. Did he did? Oh? I wonder why he 353 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: said it. I mean, it's it's it's stuff that's definitely 354 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: out there and floating around, and I'm sure we'll get 355 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: to the bottom of it eventually. Um. I think it's 356 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: it's pretty important, uh that you find a way to 357 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: be upfront. You know. Her Edwards has pushed that he 358 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: believes everybody should be vaccinated. Her Edwards gave a speech 359 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: at Cornerstone, a megachurch in a in a Phoenix suburb 360 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: of Handler, in which he said that, you know, his 361 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: mother had just gotten over uh COVID and and then 362 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: it was a little scary there for a minute. Um, 363 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, COVID kind of derailed the program last year. 364 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: You've got people on the team who have lost relatives 365 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: uh to COVID tragically. There's just a there's a lot 366 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: of stuff going on, and and um, you would hope 367 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: that if transparency had any value, um, even in the 368 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: area of just sort of peer pressure, because what happened 369 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: when when Washington State came out and said that they 370 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: were one of the teams below the eight percent threshold 371 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: that the conference had as a goal. Everybody started talking 372 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: about why Washington State, you know, wasn't it wasn't vacting 373 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: up and and why, um, you know, wasn't Nick Rolovich's 374 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: leadership or or or inability to lead on that specific 375 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: issue that was the problem. You know. But but if 376 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: you're not sharing the data at all just to kind 377 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: of stay out of the news cycle, UM, then I 378 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: think it's important that that some of those questions get answered. 379 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is, outside of maybe Doug 380 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: Holler with the eth at it, who was the first 381 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: to break this story right before Pete Samil did, the 382 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: media in Arizona is incredibly soft when it comes to 383 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: UM issues of scandal or getting the bottom of almost anything. UM. 384 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: You would think that the paper of record as Central 385 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: would have broken some news on anything that is going 386 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: on so far, they have not. UM. In fact, their 387 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: primary uh, one of their primary sports columnists wrote something. 388 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: One of their primary sports columnists, Greg Moore, wrote something 389 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: two days ago, UM, and the subject of it was 390 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: what if the n C double a probe into Arizona 391 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: State football comes up empty. That's the premise that he presented. 392 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: He said, he basically within it said that he doesn't 393 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: even really know what's going on here, um, but that 394 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: that they've denied it. So what if it comes up empty? 395 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: Then what? And then this was one of the ultimate 396 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: points that he made. This is directly from the a 397 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: C Central column by Greg Moore. It says, um, they 398 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: know that anytime black men get promoted to positions like 399 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: athletic director, associate athletic director, head coach or associate head coach, 400 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: it's going to bring scrutiny. Every little thing they do 401 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: is going to be under close surveillance, surveillance. Sometimes people 402 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: will even try to set them up to commit wrongdoing 403 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: they never would have otherwise considered everything is a test 404 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: at this level. I wonder whether, like me, they're thinking, 405 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: you know what, this is America, and in America, accusations 406 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: aren't the same thing as convictions until the root and 407 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: until the review is over. It's not over, so dude, okay? 408 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: So and then and then this was his ultimate point. 409 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: If if the so called evidence were so all conclusive, 410 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: then what does the n C double A even have 411 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: to investigate. That's not how things work at all, wrecked exactly, dude. 412 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: It's that you have to corroborate, you have to get 413 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: because the the evidence has left three coaches on paid leave. 414 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: But the problem is is that, Yeah, you could just 415 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: fire them and all that stuff and say hey, yo, 416 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: we we we removed the problem. But they weren't in positions. 417 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: Particularly Adam Brennaman wasn't in a position to be able 418 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: as a g A may content grant to pay five 419 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: six bucks for somebody's flight, Like that's just that means 420 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: that it came from somewhere else. And when it comes 421 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: to this um with this vaccination status, when you go 422 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: back to last year even and you go back to 423 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: their game and their situation, you're just saying, Okay, how 424 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: does this make sense? Like it's the same thing with 425 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: the with the with the recruiting violations and the COVID violations. 426 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, oh, oh, well, it's just because herman 427 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: is black. No, man, it's not. And I'm a person 428 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: that recognizes that, yes, black coaches at times do come 429 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: under more scrutiny. People are waiting on them to fail. 430 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: They and all of that. I understand that but this 431 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: isn't the case. People respect they want him to succeed, 432 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: but they've clearly done things that are that are that 433 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: are wrong as it relates to the recruiting violations and COVID. 434 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: But then when you add up that they're not releasing 435 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: VAX numbers not necessarily sending it to the conference as well, 436 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: then you go back to think about last year and 437 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: you're like, how did how could this have happened? Like 438 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: how could you have had to miss four games because 439 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: of COVID? But I'll I'll leave that right there and 440 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: just say there are a lot of people who are 441 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: asking questions surrounding that at this point and point in time, 442 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: just not in Arizona. Yeah, exactly outside of Doug Holler, 443 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem to be And and part of that 444 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: comes with the investment that exists in certain types of 445 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: reporting in which the same people that are under review. 446 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: And it cracks me up that Herm Edwards used the 447 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: word review. So then all the Arizona media starts using 448 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: the word review. It's an investigation. You look ridiculous, You 449 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: look absolutely ridiculous when the head coach tries to put 450 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: a spin on it, and then you adopt his language. 451 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: That's talking points, that's partisanship. That's very, very weird. It's 452 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: it's extremely weird. And and the idea that nobody in Arizona, 453 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: even though we have twelve dedicated outlets all covering the program, 454 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: haven't been able outside of Doug Holler, who all he's 455 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: doing is just making phone calls and asking questions, like 456 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: doing the job of a journalist. Do they did it? 457 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: Like there is no there is no debate of about this. 458 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: My sources have told me. I will just go out 459 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: and say, my sources have told me Antonio Peers paid 460 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: for the flights, he reimbursed for the flights. And the 461 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: fact that you have people who write about Arizona State 462 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 1: who won't even mention his name barely, and well, if 463 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: he's if he's your primary source for your information on 464 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: recruiting and stuff that's going on inside of the program, 465 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: you're kind of in between a rock and a hard place. 466 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, that's how this business functions. If you look 467 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: at what you're doing is more of a business than 468 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: a journalistic endeavor, That's that's how functions. And I know 469 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: that I've taken criticism for for all I did was 470 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: know what was happening before it was gonna happen. I 471 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: keyed you in. You had a bunch of sources, and 472 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: you were able to you were able to unearth a lot. 473 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: Uh And but and the reason why because I just 474 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: want to get this out there route the way everybody understands. 475 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: When I put the nuclear bomb tweet out right, which 476 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: was a bad tweet, I just want to I just 477 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: want to say that the gift was, the gift was, 478 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: the gift was. I don't mind anything that you said 479 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: in it. It's just a gift. I'm still very comfortable 480 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: with the tweet, um big because and the reason why 481 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: is this is that is that I have decided right 482 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: that there are certain things that I know about that 483 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: I am willing to wait until after the season to 484 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: talk about even more openly, because if certain things were 485 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: to get out, there could be a situation where the 486 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: whole staff has to be fired, or at least most 487 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: of it, which would make playing a football season impossible. 488 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of kids on that team 489 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: who deserve to play ball and don't want to, and 490 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to get them screwed over. And also 491 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: there is softball, women's basketball, wrestling, gymnastics, whatever other school 492 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: sports are on the Arizona State campus, non revenue generating 493 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: sports that if they can't play football, those people don't 494 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: get to play because there's no money. So I've so 495 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: as a as a person, this was something that I 496 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: wrestle with and I was like, Yo, there are so 497 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: many there's so much collateral damage that can be done 498 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: that I think it's best to wait till after the 499 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: season to to really really dive in and talk about it. 500 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: But if it comes out before that, yeah, that's not 501 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: that's not my problem. Yeah, I just I would like 502 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: to see Arizona State be able to get through this season, 503 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: do whatever it is that that they're going to do, 504 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: and then have the n C double a review. If 505 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: we're being nice to HERM Edwards and everybody who wants 506 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: to use special language, use the word. It's an investigation, 507 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: right when the investigation turns up exactly what it's going 508 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: to turn up. And you have to understand that the 509 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: reason that three coaches were suspended wasn't because of internal 510 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: investigation that a s U was doing. It's because of 511 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: the packet they got. The dossier. The dossier has receipts 512 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: they suspended the coaches that were involved in the receipts, 513 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: and they did not interview those coaches internally because if 514 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: a s U interviewed those coaches internally, information would have 515 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: been revealed that would have led to more suspensions. So 516 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: I've seen it presented that Arizona State is trying to say, hey, 517 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: n C double A, look at us, we got ahead 518 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: of it. But a s U is not even gonna 519 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: be able to say that they interviewed these assistants because 520 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: they can't because if they do, it will cause more damage. 521 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: So right now they are in literal damage control. And 522 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: if the n C Double A when interviewing prospects and 523 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: when interviewing these assistants, and when interviewing more people that 524 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: are involved in this because for some reason a s 525 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: U fans got it in their head that there was 526 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: like one or two whistleblowers and not like ten, which 527 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: is way closer to the truth, then then it's gonna 528 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 1: be like it's going to be an absolute mess depending 529 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: on the speed that the n C Double A moves. 530 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: What you don't want to have happen is the n 531 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: C Double A somehow magically wrap up their investigation. Four 532 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: weeks into the season, because that's going to change everything, 533 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: and that's not fair to the athletes that are on 534 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: this team. It's just not so. I My hope is 535 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: that they're able to get through the season, accomplish what 536 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: they're going to accomplish, and the investigation slash pretty princess 537 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: review wraps up and and whatever happens from from that 538 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: point happens. Yep. So uh So, now I guess we 539 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: move on to UM. People thought that COVID was gonna 540 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: be the biggest, you know, impediment to games this year 541 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: and the biggest thing that could cause games to either 542 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: be moved or forfeited or canceled or rescheduled or anything 543 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: like like that. But we actually find out that fires 544 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: and air quality, which we've been dealing with here on 545 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: the West Coast for a while, that those could be 546 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: a big culprit this year. And here in l A, 547 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: we've had fires, you know, the last few years, I 548 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: mean every single year without fail um. They've been big, 549 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: they've been bad, They've caused like it's messing up like 550 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: Tahoe right now. You had UM a couple of years ago. 551 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: I had to evacuate my home. UM last year in Eugene, Oregon, 552 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: they would had they had had games canceled had the 553 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: Pack twelve started earlier. Um. Yeah, so Calan Stanford have 554 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: been impacted previously, prior prior to this season, and the 555 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: hits just don't stop. Comment Ralph, Yeah, I Arizona UM 556 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 1: not the greatest air quality in Arizona, but they didn't 557 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: necessarily have to deal with a lot of the wildfires 558 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: that that have been dealt with in the Pacific Northwest 559 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: and on the West Coast. UM. I know that that 560 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: John Wilner pointed out in his article he wrote about 561 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: this that Commissioner George Klavkov walks around with an app 562 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: that measures air quality in the different Pack twelve markets. 563 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: I know that it's definitely an issue in that region 564 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: of the country because University of Nevada at Reno has 565 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: been having to conduct their practices in Palo Alto because 566 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: the air quality is not good enough to even run 567 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: through a practice. University of Nevada at you know, had 568 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: to cancel their prospect camp after eighteen months of dead 569 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: period when they didn't get to see any kids in 570 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: the first place. So, I mean the fires, the constant 571 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: fires and smoke getting pumped into the air could definitely 572 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: interfere with the season. I mean it already has we 573 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: we've we've already seen that happen. And if if the 574 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: commissioners walking around with an app on his phone where 575 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: he's having to check it every few seconds the same 576 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: way that you check the you know, delivery status of 577 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: a Domino's pizza, that's that's pretty bad sign. Yeah, no, no, 578 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: it definitely is. Um what do you make of of 579 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: I guess the this season and how everything is supposed 580 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: to you know, work and fly and all of that. 581 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: Mike just just with COVID, with all the protocols and 582 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: everything like that, it makes me want to It makes 583 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: me want to see the players get a paycheck because 584 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: that with the amount of stuff that they have to 585 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: deal with and just to be ready on a moment's 586 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: notice to go practice at a park like Stanford had 587 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: to last year, or play your home games in a 588 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: completely different state like the the New Mexico schools were 589 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: subjected to. Uh last season. You know, things on the 590 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: West Coast are a little bit wild. We always talk 591 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: about the fact that you know, your house backs up 592 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: to a hill there in California and all of The 593 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: stuff that regrows is the stuff that dries out immediately. 594 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: So it grows back immediately, drives out immediately, and it's 595 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: ready to burn next year. I don't see a whole 596 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: lot of that changing. Um the stuff that's burning in 597 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: Oregon that grows back real quick too, and in drought 598 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: conditions it will, it'll, it'll dry out. And with population 599 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: increase and careless campers and lightning strikes and and you know, 600 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: to some extent, probably climate change not something that I'm 601 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: have enough education myself to be able to say this 602 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: is this is a definite Indica eight or of of 603 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: climate change. This wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for 604 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: human interference with industrialization thirty years ago. Like I, I 605 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: can't um connect A to B when it comes to 606 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: that stuff, but I know that there's a lot of 607 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 1: smart people who believe that they can. Um I it's 608 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: a lot man. When you throw COVID in there, it's 609 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: the The amount of stress that's on that's on everybody 610 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: is is quite a bit. Just think about how stressed 611 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: we were last year, not knowing if we were gonna 612 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: be able to to to cover these games, or you 613 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: not knowing if you're gonna be able to, um, have 614 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: your son play in in some of his high school 615 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: football games, or or what recruiting was gonna look like. Um, 616 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: all of this uncertainty is is scary because the thing 617 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: about uncertainty is the less you know, the more you 618 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: fill it with your own imagination. And there's nothing more terrifying, 619 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: UM than your own imagination. And I think that, you know, UM, 620 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: when when I'm thinking about what could be the future 621 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: of the Pac twelve if if we can't get this 622 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: disease and wildfires and air quality issues in l A 623 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: with overpopulation and all that nonsense, or just the fact 624 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: that if it's a hundred and thirty two degrees that 625 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: kick off well into October at these Arizona schools, you know, 626 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: is it is it worth all of the I guess 627 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say, is it is it is 628 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, will it be worth it? 629 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: Because you have then you also have to factor in 630 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: just the safety of the sport in general. We just 631 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: found out that Zach Hoffbauer, the two sports star from 632 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: from Stanford, UM who who overdosed on I guess not overdosed, 633 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: He took a pill that was given to him by 634 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: a friend to help him sleep painkiller. It was laced 635 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: with fentyl and he never woke up. And they sent 636 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: his brain off to be examined because he dealt with 637 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: the depression that they thought was maybe brought on by 638 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: lyme disease, but they wanted to check and see, and 639 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: he had advanced CT at age twenty six. And he's 640 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: not even something that started playing tackle football really until 641 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: eighth grade. And so when you factor in all of 642 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: these things that are going on with this sport, it 643 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: makes it it makes it hard to see through all 644 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: the haze um to see that we're going to get 645 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: back to this sport being the joyful thing that it 646 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: used to be, especially when you're just losing a lot 647 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: of the old school people who don't want the kids 648 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: to make more money than they do, who don't like 649 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: the idea that they can sign with an energy drink 650 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: company and make more money before they reach the pros. 651 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: Then you'll make as a as a pipe fitter or 652 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: a house painter in your entire life. You have people 653 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 1: walking away from college football just because of jealousy issues, 654 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 1: So you know how many people are are we gonna 655 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 1: lose before this gets back to the place where playing 656 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: football is is just fun again, you know, where you're 657 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: not having to think about the weather or your safety 658 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: or your lungs because of a disease, or whether or 659 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: not you're gonna be able to uh pay your bills 660 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: because all your teammates have n I L deals and 661 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: you don't like it's things are things are addicate. I'm 662 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: still having fun, but I'm one er in what that's 663 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: gonna look like five to ten years from now. Yep, 664 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: that is very important, all right. Uh. We also have 665 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: a really good interview from the head coach of Utah, 666 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: uh Kyle Whittingham, who I used to screw up his 667 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: name all the time. And uh, here is what Kyle 668 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: Whittingham had to say. Coach, thanks for coming on the show. Well, 669 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: thank you, George, appreciate you having me on before. Every 670 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: time I have a head coach on I at the 671 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: first question I asked him because there's been dust ups 672 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: all over the country. Um, how how are you to 673 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: be addressed by the media? Is a coach? Is that? Kyle? 674 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: Is it? Coach witting How how are you to be addressed? 675 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, any any of the above will do. I 676 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: have no preference and and whatever you're comfortable with is 677 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: fine with me. See all the coaches in the Back 678 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: twelve that we've interviewed so far that this season have 679 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: had that same approach, which I love just as long 680 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: as it's respectful. Um So, your utah Utes, you have 681 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: been the head coach there since two thousand four, and 682 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 1: you've taken this program. The trajectory has been really, really nice. 683 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 1: You guys are recruiting better. You moved to the Pack twelve, 684 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: gotten competitive there, and now it seems like the next 685 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: step is to win the South and then a Pack 686 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: twelve championship. Is Are those the goals that you talk 687 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: about with your team coming into a season like this? Absolutely? 688 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: And and the you know, the real primary goal is 689 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: winning the Back twelve championship. We've won the South to 690 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: the last three years and got to that championship game 691 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: but came up short. And so that, uh, in our 692 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: estimation is the next step in the evolution of our program, 693 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: and the progression of our program is to is to 694 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: be able to capture a Pac twelve title. And it's 695 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's very competitive league, very balanced, and easier 696 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: said than done, but that's what we're shooting for. Yeah, 697 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: so many people a lot of times get focused on 698 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: recruiting rankings and stars and all of those things. And 699 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: you have been able to elevate the recruiting at Utah. 700 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: But what has been the secret of taking guys like 701 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: Lucky Fold to J J. Dillman and taking them from 702 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: unheralded recruits to NFL draft picks. Well, I think it 703 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: is a direct reflection of our assistant coaches and the 704 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: work they do in recruiting and getting the right guys 705 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: in here, and not necessarily the higher profile guys, but 706 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: the guys who, uh, you know, their skill set matches 707 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: what we're looking for, and guys that we feel have 708 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: a high ceiling. And and we were in the projection business, 709 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: we we don't really look at where the player is now, 710 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: it's where can we get him and in two or 711 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: three years. And and that being said, are instant coaches 712 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: do a great job of targeting the right guys and 713 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: then when they get in the program, they do a 714 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: great job of developing those guys. And that's really been 715 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: our our key to success. And that's you know, it's 716 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: all about recruiting at the collegiate level, and and uh, 717 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: you're right, we don't always get the uh you know, 718 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: the marquee players, but we feel we get our type 719 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: of guys that that we can develop and mold into 720 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: the type of players that we've been successful with. Yeah, 721 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: and there are I think that the country and probably 722 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the coaches in the Pact twelve are 723 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: starting to see that in the state of Utah in particular, 724 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: that there are um so many like talented players who 725 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 1: don't necessarily get the credit. And they've been like, how 726 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: important is it for you to kind of put a 727 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 1: fence around the state of Utah and keep those recruits there. Well, 728 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: very important, and that's always our starting point in recruiting 729 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: is the in state players and making sure we we 730 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: don't miss anybody in state. And uh, you know, I 731 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: think us, like pretty much everyone in the country, we 732 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: would like to be able to to stake at your 733 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 1: territory and say nobody's going to get out, But that's 734 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: that's not realistic. Uh, you know, everybody has the problem 735 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: of keeping guys at home. But I think we do 736 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 1: overall a pretty good job of of keeping a lot 737 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: of the talent here. We don't get every single player 738 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: that we target in state. But but if you look 739 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: at our roster, there's a lot of really good in 740 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: state players that have been successful here. Yeah, and um, 741 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: you played for Lavelle Atwards and he's one of the 742 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: most more beloved but lesser known coaches in the history 743 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: of college football. What can you share about your experience 744 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: playing for him at b y U. Well, it was 745 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: a great experience. And I had the the uh, the 746 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: awesome experience of not only playing for him, but playing 747 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: for my father is my position coach, and that you 748 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: know that can not always work out and half the 749 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: best results, but but for me, it was truly a 750 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: blessing to be able to play for both those guys. 751 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: And of course lavel was a head coach and my 752 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: dad was the defensive coordinator and UH, coach Edwards, uh 753 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: taught me so much about life, not not just football, 754 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, just how to treat people and 755 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: and uh, just things that you can carry with you 756 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: throughout the rest of your life. And and UH had 757 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: a great experience down there, and uh it was something 758 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 1: like I said that I will cherish forever. Yeah, and um, 759 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: but back to your team this year, there are you know, 760 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: some other teams in the Pack twelve that maybe, you know, 761 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: particularly USC, they're getting more you know, public like, oh, 762 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna win the South. But you guys are ultra 763 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: competitive and every single year, and this year you have 764 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot of players with less than five starts under 765 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: their belt listed as starters on your initial depth chart. 766 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: But you've been super positive publicly about the team you've 767 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: put together for this for this season. What about this 768 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 1: team do you think could make them stand out? Well, 769 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of talent, uh, and it permeates 770 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: through each class, and really the bulk of our talent 771 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: is in the freshman sophomore classes. And and you know, 772 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: we have some terrific seniors as well as a bunch 773 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: of juniors that would have been seniors this year have 774 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: we not had the COVID UH freezing of the eligibility, 775 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: And so we're we're anticipating quite a few of those 776 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: juniors coming out in the draft this year. But but 777 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: I think overall, it's just the talent throughout the program. 778 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: And like you mentioned, there's a lot of young talent 779 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: that has only five games and that was the abbreviated 780 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: season last year, just those five games. But but you know, 781 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: when you look at our roster, we have seventy players 782 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: with three years or more of eligibility, and uh, that's 783 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot when you talk about an eighty five uh, 784 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, man roster. That's a lot of talent in 785 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: the younger in the younger classes. And hopefully that means 786 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be, uh, you know, pretty competitive for 787 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: years to come. Yeah. And you were there as Coke 788 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: head coach for the Fiesta Bowl in two thousands four 789 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 1: and at two thousand four season and the two thousand 790 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: eight season, like, like, what what do those seasons have 791 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: in common as far as the overall culture of Utah 792 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,800 Speaker 1: and the recipe for success, you know, having a Sugar 793 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: Bowl victory over Alabama and all of that. Well, I 794 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 1: would say the first common nominators talent. Both those teams 795 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: are very talented. Many many players on both those squads 796 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 1: ended up having NFL careers and very successful NFL careers. Secondly, 797 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: in both those years, we were able to start the 798 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: same twenty two in the bowl game that we started 799 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 1: the season with, and so we were able to stay 800 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: healthy and not lose any players. There might have been 801 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: one guy that that we lost along the way, but 802 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: it was for the most part, we were very fortunate 803 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: on the injury front. And I think that's really key 804 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: to having one of those type of seasons that you've 805 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: gotta You've got to be able to stay healthy and 806 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,720 Speaker 1: get the ball to bounce your way a few times. 807 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 1: But but the overriding factor was was the town level. 808 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: And like I said, we had many guys on those 809 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: two squads that had very good NFL careers. Uh, Coach, 810 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: I got a couple more. I got two more questions 811 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: for you. One is that there's been a lot of 812 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, talk about conference realignment and you know, potentially 813 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 1: adding teams to the Pack twelve. What was it like 814 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: for you guys at Utah leaving the Mountain West and 815 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: coming over to the Pack twelve. Well, for us in particular, 816 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: it was it was awesome and we had really the 817 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: bar was raised in virtually every area of the program. 818 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: We're able to build new facilities, are recruiting. Uh, you know, 819 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: it was was heightened the budgets, the personnel, you know that, 820 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: the staffing, and so it was it was a game changer, 821 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 1: and we were fortunate enough to get the invite and uh, 822 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, there's a few tough years when we first 823 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: got going in the Pac twelve, but we feel like 824 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 1: we've got some traction now and as you mentioned earlier, 825 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: a good trajectory and and so, Uh it was just 826 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: really really put us on the map as far as 827 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: a national brand. And that's something that uh, you know, 828 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: has been instrumental in recruiting. We get indoors now, UH 829 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: and signed players that we would not even have been 830 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: able to get the time of day from before we 831 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 1: were in the Back twelfth conference. Um, the final question 832 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: for your coach, Um, When doing research for this interview, 833 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: I found an old essay that you wrote about your mother, 834 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: Nancy in Lessons in Life Lessons from Mothers of Faith. 835 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: You outlined a bunch of very tough things that your 836 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: family had to go through. How was your mother and 837 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: the adversity that you faced as a family, How did 838 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: that influence your mission to develop young men on your team. Well, 839 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 1: she was the rock of our family, without a doubt, 840 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: and still is. Unfortunately she's still with us. And grew 841 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: up a UH, the son of an NFL player and 842 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 1: then a coach. And my father played in the NFL 843 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 1: for eight or nine years and then coach at the 844 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: collegiate level or the NFL level for another fifteen or 845 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 1: twenty years, and so in fact, probably twenty five years. 846 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: And so she was had to be very strong, very independent, 847 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: because when your dad is is a coach, you know 848 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: there's uh, he's not around a whole lot. You know, 849 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of sacrifice to be made. And she 850 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: held things together and really has been, uh, you know, 851 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: just a great resource for me, a great friend, a 852 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 1: great ally. I mean, just can't say enough good things 853 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: about the influences she's had on my life and the 854 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: and the direction that she's given me. You guys, he 855 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: is coach Kyle Whittingham, Utah football head coach, coach. Much 856 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: success to you and the Utah you this this this 857 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: year and may you win every single game unless you 858 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: play my organ Ducks. We well, we do plan so 859 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: that it just happens to be so. But I thank you, George, 860 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,479 Speaker 1: appreciate you having me on and uh, all the best 861 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: to you as well. So, Ralph, what do you think 862 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: about good old Kyle Whittingham. Well, I mean, you only 863 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: had ten minutes with him, and you're not gonna You're 864 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: not gonna get to the bottom of his his uh, 865 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,399 Speaker 1: recipe for success in ten minutes. But he did say 866 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: something that kind of scared me, and I think it 867 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: should scare every Pack twelve South fan, especially if you're 868 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: at USC. What is that that he has seventy players 869 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: on his roster with at least three years of eligibility left. Yo, 870 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: that's a big thing, right, that's horrifying if you were 871 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: anybody but Utah, knowing the way that he develops and 872 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: then they're already pretty moderately successful within the back, that's 873 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: that's terrify. He got an extra year to develop a 874 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 1: bunch of dudes like that, so so their junior year 875 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: is really their their senior year, So that it's a 876 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: good point, Ralph, I didn't even think about that. You 877 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 1: gave u an a plus developer, essentially an extra year 878 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: to play with those guys. But next year this time 879 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: is probably and now his whole roster's young, so everybody 880 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: should be terrified. That's a good that's a good ass point, 881 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: rold Damn. As long as long as they find the 882 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: right quarterback, because you're not gonna get Charlie Brewer for 883 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: year eight, right, Hey, but you never you never know 884 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 1: the way the earth is going. We could write there's 885 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: about to be college j V. They're about to be 886 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: open up a second team at every college. That way 887 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: they can keep the scholarships. Uh yeah, um okay, So 888 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,320 Speaker 1: what else do we have been before we get oh, Stanford. 889 00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 1: Stanford has decided that they are going to go with 890 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: at least start the season with the two QB system 891 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: the way that Arizona is. Um. I think that this 892 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: is a little bit different situation than Arizona because David 893 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: Shaw is it sure who his starting quarterback should be. 894 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: So he said both of them are going to play. 895 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: And I think that that's because he's never played two quarterbacks. 896 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: It's only been one quarterback and then he rolls unless 897 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: he's hurt or something. And I think that, I mean, 898 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: he's had to go back and forth quite a bit 899 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: because of injury. Yeah, I'm no, no, I'm I'm saying 900 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:41,240 Speaker 1: like he has never, you know, had a healthy quarterback 901 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: and then it's like, nah, let's rotate these guys. So 902 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: I think that he's gonna figure out which one is 903 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: his guy. Yeah, I mean I would be a little 904 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: bit frustrated if if I was David Shaw right now 905 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 1: and Tanner McKee, who was a highly highly recruited prospect, 906 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: is one years old, red shirt freshman, and can't beat 907 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 1: out Jack West. So I don't know. I don't know 908 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: what that says about Stanford, but I feel like it's 909 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 1: not good. Oh yeah, see, I don't I don't know, 910 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: but because what if what if they were both playing 911 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,919 Speaker 1: lights out? You think Jack West has playing lights out? 912 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: Probably not, So don't forget how big Jack West is. 913 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: He's technically so he's a he's a senior. Um. They're 914 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,839 Speaker 1: like the same age though, because Tanner McKee wan went 915 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 1: on a mission. UM he's gotten in a few games. 916 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 1: He's got a fifty one completion percentage. We'll round up 917 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 1: will be nice um with five point four yards per attempt, 918 00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: no touchdown passes in fifties six attempts, and negative twenty 919 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 1: five yards rushing total in all of its appearances. So 920 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, unless unless Jack West like really grew up, 921 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: unless he's ready to go. I think that'd be the 922 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,879 Speaker 1: biggest surprise in the Pact twelve is if if Jack 923 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 1: West came out and he sees this job and he 924 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: was somewhat serviceable. But he's made appearances in all twenty 925 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: and every single time you know that there wasn't really 926 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: anything special. So but maybe he's ready. Maybe he's ready. 927 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes some people just take time and development. We're just 928 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: talking about Whittingham. Maybe this is an issue of of 929 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: of development. You know the game that he got in, George, 930 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: he didn't look that bad last year was against Oregon 931 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 1: thirteen nineteen hundred fifty four yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions. Yep, 932 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:04,280 Speaker 1: well point loss, right, So we will see Tanner McKie 933 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: played in that game too, seven sixty two yards, no touchdowns, 934 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: no interceptions. All right, well, we will see what continues 935 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: to happen. But now this is the time that we 936 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: have all been waiting for Ralph ams dead. This is 937 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: the prediction. Actually the recap time. Well, actually we already 938 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: went over week zero a little bit. But we had 939 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: u c l A play against Hawaii. We know that 940 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: that was a debacle, but Ralph thinks that Dorry and 941 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson should be benched despite a thirty semi point win. 942 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: I okay, So U c l A looked so good 943 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: in the second quarter when they were up four touchdowns 944 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 1: that it made me wonder if we shouldn't see like 945 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: a Los Angeles Rams flip Jared Goff for Matt Stafford 946 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: type thing to see if like, hey, it could it 947 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: could it be that DTR the only thing that's holding 948 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: us back from maybe even being able to beat L 949 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: s U. You know that that's the thing that I 950 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: was thinking about in that second quarter because a couple 951 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: of those throws look really bad. We know he missed 952 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks out with COVID and and he 953 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: looked super rusty, so you know, maybe it was a 954 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: matter of rust, but it looked good to be. He 955 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: had a touchdown pass in the second half, but the 956 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: game was already super out of hand. I don't know, 957 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 1: how do you feel about it. I think that he's 958 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to play better to to beat L s 959 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 1: U this weekend. I think that he is in a 960 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 1: situation to where he's playing for his NFL draft status. 961 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: He he is, and he can't afford to not play well. 962 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 1: If that makes it like he can't afford it because 963 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 1: he's going to be in a situation where he won't 964 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: get drafted if he doesn't play well, or be drafted 965 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: very low. And he's been a guy that has that 966 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: has been inconsistent that if you took four plays. Right 967 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 1: to describe Dorian Thompson Robinson, you would say, okay, two plays, 968 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: you would say, okay, cool, all right, all right, that 969 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: that's an average, basic, routine play. No nothing spectacular, nothing bad. 970 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: Then you'll have a play where you're like, oh my god, 971 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 1: this kid should be a first round pick. Did you 972 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 1: see that throw? Did you see that that athleticism? And 973 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: then the next play you'll be like, what the funk? 974 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 1: Why is why is this dude on the field? It 975 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't he be playing wide receiver? Like that's four plays 976 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: of Dorian Thompson Robinson and he's got to get rid 977 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: of that fourth play and at least turn it into 978 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: a routine, non special play. I don't agree. I don't 979 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: think he should meet himself. I really don't. He gets 980 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 1: criticized for these bumbles all the time. He's just trying 981 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: to make something happen. Okay, but you can't have the 982 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: fun like like, so, I understand the team was not 983 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: very good. They're better. Now, what does that have to 984 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 1: do with him fumbling all by himself Because there's gonna 985 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: be less opportunity for him to have to dodge three 986 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: different tacklers. Fifteen yards in the backfield. But I don't 987 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 1: think that he should mute himself just because a bunch 988 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 1: of NFL scouts out, Yes, what do you mean you 989 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 1: you have to It's not even just turnover to it's 990 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 1: he's got to find a way to not make heads 991 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 1: scratching lee bad plays. That's what I'm saying, not if 992 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna keep him from making the great plays. What 993 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: is he talking about? Yes, it Ralph. That is the 994 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: complete opposite of what you want in your quarterback. Like 995 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: you can't have like like for instance, Josh Josh Allen 996 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: his his rookie year in the NFL. You can't have 997 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: that like and and and the way and then in 998 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 1: his second year the way they went out in the 999 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: playoffs when he made that dumbass play you can well, 1000 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 1: actually he made like two two in a row. You 1001 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: can't have that, Like you can't win championships and all 1002 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: of that, making those plays, like you have to turn 1003 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,439 Speaker 1: that into I'm gonna throw the ball away that way 1004 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the ball instead of taking a stupid sack or making 1005 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: a pass that goes into traffic and somebody drops it 1006 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: or intercepts it. That's not muting yourself. That's just saying 1007 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: all right, instead of instead of it being a pass play, right, 1008 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know how sometimes quarterbacks will be running 1009 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: towards the sideline and it'll be a pass play and 1010 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 1: instead of just chucking the ball out of out of bounds, 1011 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: they run out of bounds and take like a three 1012 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: or four yard loss. That's stuff that Dorian Thompson Robinson 1013 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: would would do. And that's not muting your yourself. That's 1014 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 1: just making a heads up play. But not everything. First 1015 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: of all, when you bring up Josh Allen, they're not 1016 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: in the playoffs for him to make those stupid plays 1017 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 1: unless he's out there doing too much. There gets to 1018 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 1: be a point, though, when the talent around you developed 1019 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,479 Speaker 1: to the point where you are in less situations where 1020 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: you have to go buck wild. But if if in 1021 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: the back of your mind are all of these NFL 1022 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 1: scouts that say that you have to protect the ball, 1023 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: you can't turn it over, Maybe you take off running 1024 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: less when you should run more. Maybe you don't try 1025 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 1: to fit a throw into a tight window when when 1026 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: you should, like you overthrow that that first pass when 1027 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,919 Speaker 1: he was when he was going for the end zone, 1028 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 1: he had an open receiver. He shouldn't have missed that 1029 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 1: by eight yards. I don't think that's an accuracy issue. 1030 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 1: I think it's either rust or he's got some of 1031 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: these scouts in his head trying to say, you know, 1032 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: you need to put it where where only your receiver 1033 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: can get it so that you're limiting these turnovers. Go out, 1034 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: play hard, trust the system, and then you're gonna get 1035 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 1: workouts in front of NFL scouts and you can you 1036 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: can allay their concerns at a hunt. You can't because 1037 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: the only way you can allay their concerns is not 1038 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 1: doing it on the on the field, except Josh Allen exists, 1039 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 1: so you can't like no, but Josh Allen has stopped 1040 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: doing that as he was top ten, but he was 1041 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 1: still drafting in the top ten. That's what I'm saying 1042 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 1: because in in in college, right, So, so Josh Allen 1043 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 1: is first of all, he's an anominaly and an outlier. 1044 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 1: He's the first quarterback to ever and my and my mind, 1045 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: you we don't even know if he if he can 1046 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: do it again yet because he hasn't done it that 1047 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: that has gone from severely inaccurate too extremely accurate. Nobody 1048 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 1: has ever done it um. I know he worked with 1049 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer and that it was They say it was 1050 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: his platform, his feet and all this stuff. So we 1051 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 1: will see this upcoming season. But it was Josh Allen 1052 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: once he got in the inn a fell these heads 1053 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 1: scratching plays. That that's what would change. Like if he 1054 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 1: were still making those head scratching plays, he would not 1055 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 1: have gotten that two hundred billion dollar contract. He wouldn't 1056 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 1: have because as because you can't say, all right, I'll 1057 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: take these good plays and then take these idiotic bad 1058 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 1: plays too. That that's not the way coaches work. They 1059 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,919 Speaker 1: don't want that. And that's what Dorian Thompson Robinson gives you. 1060 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: And for him to be an NFL quarterback, he's got 1061 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 1: to stop or and U c l A to have 1062 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 1: a good season, he's got to stop doing it that 1063 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 1: that that that doesn't change your aggressiveness. It just says 1064 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: it does it does. You just have to You just 1065 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: have to know when to use it. Do you ever 1066 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: watch Homeland? Yeah, sometimes Carrie gotta get off her meds 1067 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 1: to solve a crime. Dorian Thompson Robinson can't be out 1068 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,919 Speaker 1: there trying as hard as he can not to turn 1069 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 1: the ball over and not trusting his inst No, I'm 1070 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 1: telling you, I'm not saying that big because he does 1071 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: a decent job of making decisions, went to throw the football. 1072 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: It's just when it's just the other stuff, dude, it's 1073 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: the other stuff. But okay, So now this week they 1074 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 1: are playing L. S U in the Rolls Bowl, which 1075 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: was severely empty last week, very very empty. Yeah, yeah, 1076 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: that was pretty bad. And granted I'm not going to 1077 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 1: I thought that Stu Mandale made a great point and 1078 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, we're not gonna crowd shame people 1079 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 1: in the middle of a pandemic. Still, and then when 1080 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,439 Speaker 1: you consider the regulations here in California, people are more 1081 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: uh cautious as it relates to COVID for the in 1082 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 1: terms of the larger population than they are in some 1083 01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 1: other states. So you know, if L s if if 1084 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: this game was in L. S U, it would be 1085 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: the stadium would would be as packed as they allowed it. 1086 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: Now that this game is in l A. There may 1087 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: have been ten thousand people in the Rose Boat last week. 1088 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: How many um people do you think there will be 1089 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 1: there this week? More? Definitely more at least triple that, 1090 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 1: But it would be very embarrassing for them to not 1091 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 1: be at least. But here's what I don't get, George. 1092 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: You're talking about. No matter what, if l s U 1093 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 1: is playing against UM Grambling, they're gonna they're gonna sell out. Right, 1094 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: bat is gonna be packed out even in the wake 1095 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:45,280 Speaker 1: of a hurricane. But U C l A. You can 1096 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 1: say like, oh, maybe the population is more conscious or responsible, 1097 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 1: or we got more regulations or whatever. Yeah, maybe, but 1098 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 1: the percentage of people who don't believe in any of 1099 01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 1: that is a population that far outweighs even the population 1100 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: of the surrounding area of Baton Rouge. There's millions of 1101 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: people in l A and the surrounding area, and I 1102 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 1: think we've just reached a point where there's just such 1103 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: an ampathy about the program. It's goofy to me that 1104 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 1: they get to wear Michael Jordan's logo on their uniforms 1105 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 1: but can't get anybody to come to their games. Well, 1106 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: they've only had Jordan on their logo for zero for 1107 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 1: one game so so far. And the thing about people 1108 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 1: in l A is people in in l A don't 1109 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: support losers. They don't and there was nothing to be 1110 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 1: excited about after Chip Kelly's first year. And then in 1111 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 1: my mind, I've had l A um U c l 1112 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 1: A season tickets for a number of years, so I've 1113 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 1: seen the crowd sizes as they've lost, they've gotten smaller. 1114 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: They season tickets went up when Chip Kelly came. Bad season, Okay, 1115 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: next next year, and then you lose your all your 1116 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,919 Speaker 1: non conference games again and people were fed up. And 1117 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: now if they go out and beat L s U, 1118 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: I promise you they will come. The fans will show up. 1119 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,439 Speaker 1: It'll be U c l A fans who came who 1120 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, because there's no shortage of people 1121 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 1: when you are walking around l A that have you 1122 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 1: c l A stuff stuff on. So, so I guess 1123 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 1: the first thing is, so U c l A L 1124 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 1: s U. What's the line on this game? All right? 1125 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,600 Speaker 1: So I want I want you to guess before I 1126 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 1: actually tell you, because I think you're gonna be surprised. 1127 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say L s U minus eight minus eight, huh, Yeah, 1128 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 1: that they are favored by eight points. Okay, it's actually three, 1129 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 1: believe it or not. Yeah, Baby Vegas knows L s 1130 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 1: U is only favored by three points. Um. Rob Barron 1131 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:07,639 Speaker 1: from the twelve Pack podcast, he college Beta Rank on Twitter. 1132 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: He pointed out that there's probably a large overreaction coming 1133 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 1: from U c l A being one of the only 1134 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 1: games and then putting it on Hawaii that would influence 1135 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 1: the betting line. But what I'd say to that is, 1136 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,640 Speaker 1: what if l s U packs the box and and 1137 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: they leave Derek Stingley and Elijah Ricks, two of the 1138 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 1: five best cornerbacks in all of college football right now? 1139 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,639 Speaker 1: What if they leave those two guys out on an 1140 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 1: island and they just stacked a box. Because Charbonnet had 1141 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 1: a hundred yards and three touchdowns on six carries, so 1142 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to stop him, of course, And and 1143 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 1: then it becomes all up to dtr whether or not 1144 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 1: you cover or beat LSU at home. That's a tall task, man. 1145 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I wish it was more than than three. 1146 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 1: But I'm taking the Bruins. Give me U c l A. 1147 01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 1: And what's they over under? Given? See, that's a toughie 1148 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:08,639 Speaker 1: right there. Um, they didn't hit sixty eight last week. 1149 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Their defense is playing really good. Give me the under, 1150 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: give me the under, give me U c l A 1151 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 1: and the under. Baby, Okay, you're you're very, very excited 1152 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 1: for having gone one and one last week. You're doing 1153 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 1: all right. I'll go opposite you on both. Why not? Oh, 1154 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 1: you're starting the season off as a loser. Nice? Okay, again, 1155 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,680 Speaker 1: we have the same exact record, and uh, and I 1156 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 1: think that. Um. I think the L s U they've 1157 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 1: been recruiting extremely well off of their national championship. They 1158 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 1: just haven't found a way to really put it together. Uh. 1159 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,560 Speaker 1: They are definitely the more talented team, though I was 1160 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 1: impressed with U c l A again, Derek Stingley and 1161 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: Eli Ricks. Eli Ricks should be in the Pact. Fuel 1162 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:03,040 Speaker 1: footprint is California, kid, those are two of the best 1163 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 1: corners alive. And and and DTR is not looking good. 1164 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 1: So if they do everything they can to stop to run, 1165 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna go well. And you're not 1166 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,479 Speaker 1: gonna have the crowd support because l A fans don't 1167 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: care about football. So I'm gonna go with L s 1168 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 1: U plus three over sixty five. I do think you 1169 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,560 Speaker 1: c l A put some points on the board to 1170 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 1: get that to make that total happen. Okay, we will 1171 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 1: see how this goes, all right, Um, next game up 1172 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 1: is Okay, The next game up in order of when 1173 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,559 Speaker 1: they will happen is uh, Thursday, you have Weber State 1174 01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: versus Utah. What's the line on this game? And it's 1175 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: on Pack twelve network at five thirty pm Mountain times. 1176 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 1: So what's that fourth third? Yeah? Four thirty here, seven 1177 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,479 Speaker 1: thirty my time, it's gonna be a late night. I 1178 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,439 Speaker 1: do have Packed twelve network, though, spending fifty bucks on 1179 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,759 Speaker 1: on on Sling every month just to have one channel. 1180 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,760 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, this line is enormous and the 1181 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,520 Speaker 1: over unders really small considering the line is Utah minus 1182 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: thirty and a half. Oh god, okay, and what's the 1183 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 1: over under forty nine and a half? What? Yeah, I've 1184 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,920 Speaker 1: never seen anything like this, Oh my god. So to 1185 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,120 Speaker 1: get to forty nine and a half that would be 1186 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 1: and then when and then cover. So that's thirty one points. 1187 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,000 Speaker 1: So thirty one minus forty nine is eighteen points, right, 1188 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: So that's eighteen points left, So that's forty to nine. 1189 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Wait no, no, no, no no, no no, so wait hold up, 1190 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:58,640 Speaker 1: that's thirty one points, which leaves eighteen left right, So 1191 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 1: then they have to split those points for them to 1192 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,600 Speaker 1: win by thirty one, right, So it would have to 1193 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:10,599 Speaker 1: be forty to nine for them to cover. Yeah, forty 1194 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:20,720 Speaker 1: to nine. All right, bro, I'm going to take you 1195 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 1: talk to cover. But then then I have to take 1196 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 1: the over because the underfields outrageous. Right, But then U 1197 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 1: tak doesn't score, so you tak forty two. So forty 1198 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 1: two to ten would get me a win. Okay. Yeah, 1199 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:45,439 Speaker 1: so I'm taking the over and the U in Utah 1200 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:51,879 Speaker 1: minus thirty and a half. Okay, so the line is brutal. 1201 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,479 Speaker 1: Sorry about that, I sneezed. I think it's from looking 1202 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,280 Speaker 1: at We Were States roster. Um, there's a couple of 1203 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 1: guys on this team that I really like. Do you 1204 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 1: remember Randall Grimes, USC wide receiver out of Vegas? Okay, 1205 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 1: so he is on this We We State squad. Uh, 1206 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 1: he's not starting, so that's not great. Um. I know 1207 01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,759 Speaker 1: a few of the players on We Were States team. 1208 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 1: The thing that makes me really nervous is they've decided 1209 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 1: to roll out a true freshman in Bronson Baron against Utah, 1210 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,760 Speaker 1: and we've seen what Utah does to freshman quarterbacks. They 1211 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 1: are absolutely merciless. Give me, give me the under, but 1212 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 1: I cannot in good conscience ever take a team that 1213 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 1: has a line over thirty. I can't. I just it 1214 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 1: seems silly. So you so you're gonna take Utah Utah 1215 01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,639 Speaker 1: to cover but the under, No way, I'm taking Weaver 1216 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 1: State to cover. Shout out to my guy Preston Smith 1217 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 1: starting strong safety out of Gilbert, Arizona. I'm taking Weaver 1218 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,760 Speaker 1: State to cover. But I don't think that that that 1219 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Utah wins by more than four touchdowns. Okay, alright? That 1220 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 1: with with with with no running back, with no experience, 1221 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,919 Speaker 1: with with a quarterback who is new to the offense 1222 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 1: but his experience, and and depleted um wide receivers. I 1223 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,879 Speaker 1: think that, you know, I think that maybe they struggle 1224 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. We'll see. I've been wrong before, So 1225 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 1: what was yours again? I'm making sure that I keep 1226 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 1: note of them. I've got Weaver State plus the under. Yes, no, no, 1227 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,800 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, I got no I have I have. 1228 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,640 Speaker 1: I personally have Weaver State plus the under. You have 1229 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 1: Utah plus the over? Yes? Okay, all right, we are 1230 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 1: diametrically opposed thus far. All right. The next game up 1231 01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,920 Speaker 1: is Southern Utah at Arizon on a State. This game 1232 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 1: is on Pack twelve Network, third Thursday at seven thirty 1233 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 1: Pacific time. Yes, um, so, Southern Utah is not a 1234 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,879 Speaker 1: good football team, but Arizona State is favored by forty 1235 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: four and a half with an over under a fifty 1236 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: five and a half. There's a wildline even more wild 1237 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 1: than the last one. Repeat that again. A s U 1238 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 1: is favored by forty four and a half with an 1239 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 1: over under of fifty five and a half forty five over. Alright, dude, 1240 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 1: look this is the same same a SU team scored 1241 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 1: like thirteen against Sacramento State a couple of years ago. Yeah, 1242 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 1: how am okay they are They're favored by forty forty 1243 01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,840 Speaker 1: four and a half. They're favored by forty four and 1244 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: a half. They did win their last game by sixty three. Nope, nope, nope, 1245 01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,639 Speaker 1: nope nope, and and will and what's the over under 1246 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 1: fifty five and a half? Nope? Give me give me 1247 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,559 Speaker 1: Southern Utah on and the under. I'm sorry, yeah, give 1248 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 1: me Southern Utah and the under. Um. Yeah, because even 1249 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 1: forty eight to seven is a loss on both. Yeah, 1250 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,599 Speaker 1: that's it, which is probably about where I would see 1251 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:31,599 Speaker 1: it being maybe forty seven even even fort no, forty 1252 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 1: eight to three would be a winner. But it's not 1253 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,760 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna score. I I see Southern Utah finding 1254 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: a way to get in the end zone or get 1255 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,520 Speaker 1: a couple of field goals. I'm also taking Southern Utah 1256 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 1: and the under in this game. Yep. Okay, So then 1257 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 1: all right, the next game up is on Friday Friday 1258 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 1: at six pm Pacific time. You have hold on, hold on, 1259 01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,240 Speaker 1: barf disgusting. Friday games are gross. I just every time 1260 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm contractually obligated to point out the Friday games. All right, 1261 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:15,439 Speaker 1: so you have, uh, Northern Colorado versus Colorado. There is 1262 01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:21,519 Speaker 1: not a line on this, do you? Okay? Cool? Then, um, 1263 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to find one. It is 1264 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:30,320 Speaker 1: currently unavailable. And uh yeah, so what would you what 1265 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 1: would you want to set it at? We can make 1266 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 1: an artificial one. I suppose thirty thirty points. Does that 1267 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,639 Speaker 1: seem reasonable? Yeah? Sure? Why not? Thirty and a half 1268 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 1: is the same as the Utah we were state one, right, yeah, 1269 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:52,439 Speaker 1: with over under a forty six. Okay, okay, I'll give 1270 01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,639 Speaker 1: you that line. I mean like that that that seems 1271 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:58,880 Speaker 1: on par with with the last two um mismatches that 1272 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: we've seen. Right, Yeah, we got some real SEC scheduling 1273 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,240 Speaker 1: going on here. What the heck? At least play some 1274 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 1: Mountain West teams instead of Big Sky. This is too much, yep, 1275 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,599 Speaker 1: but may It'll be a hot happy podcast next week. 1276 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,559 Speaker 1: So long as U c l A holds up their end, 1277 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the under. I'm no, no, I'm no, 1278 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm gonna take the over and Northern Colorado 1279 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 1: plus the plus the thirty points. Okay, I will do 1280 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 1: the opposite of you. So Colorado minus thirty and a 1281 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:46,559 Speaker 1: half and over. Okay, okay, alright. The next game up 1282 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,880 Speaker 1: is the Oregon State Beavers. Then. This game is on 1283 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 1: Saturday at four pm Pacific, Oregon State at per Due. 1284 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,720 Speaker 1: This is a arey interesting game because Sam Noyer went 1285 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 1: from University of Colorado to Oregon State as a transfer. 1286 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,559 Speaker 1: He might have started at either school. He knocks out 1287 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,400 Speaker 1: Tristan Jevia, and they're going to be going up against Perdue, 1288 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 1: which has a starting quarterback out of the pack twelve 1289 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 1: footprint again in Jack Plumber, the brother of the University 1290 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:26,040 Speaker 1: of Arizona's co starting quarterback Will Plumber. So uh, you 1291 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:30,120 Speaker 1: might see Oregon State face off against both brothers this year. 1292 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:34,600 Speaker 1: If if things kind of go according to that family's plan. Um, 1293 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,640 Speaker 1: right now, the line is per due minus seven in 1294 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:43,880 Speaker 1: the over under is sixty eight and a half. Okay, 1295 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,799 Speaker 1: this is at perdue, by the way, alright, Uh well okay, 1296 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 1: you can you can go first on this one. Okay. 1297 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,679 Speaker 1: So I don't think Purdue is very good. I mean, 1298 01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,600 Speaker 1: I they've not given me a reason to believe that 1299 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,040 Speaker 1: they are going to contend in the Big Ten this year. 1300 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:06,200 Speaker 1: Oregon State has got a little bit of excitement behind them, 1301 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,360 Speaker 1: especially with the starting experience at quarterback. But what they 1302 01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:14,919 Speaker 1: really have to replace is um really anything on defense. 1303 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 1: Their corners have some experience, but but everybody else not really. Um, 1304 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm really not impressed with what they're rolling out there 1305 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,200 Speaker 1: defensively in the front seven. So if Purdue wants to 1306 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,880 Speaker 1: run the ball, they're probably gonna get some. Uh so 1307 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,519 Speaker 1: I imagine that that that that makes me want to 1308 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 1: take the over on the six eight and a half. Um, yeah, 1309 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 1: it's really going to depend on on what Oregon State 1310 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 1: does at running back. They have b J. Baylor, Deshaun Fenwick, 1311 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,800 Speaker 1: and Trey Low. They haven't even declared a starter yet, 1312 01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, but my guess is they're pretty run 1313 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 1: heavy um, and that they have some success at it. 1314 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 1: So give me. Let's be packed twelve homers. Give me 1315 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:07,120 Speaker 1: Oregon State plus seven and the over sixty eight and 1316 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 1: a half. I'm gonna take the over and Perdue plus 1317 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:19,080 Speaker 1: minus seven. Okay, Perdue minus seven and over sixty eight 1318 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 1: and a half, and we are both on the over. 1319 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah we got next. Um okay, up next in chronological order, 1320 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:39,120 Speaker 1: the Montana Grizzlies at the Washington Huskies. Yeah, that's gonna 1321 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:44,599 Speaker 1: be a murder. That's not gonna be close as somebody 1322 01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: who is from that part of the country and a 1323 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:51,000 Speaker 1: big respector of the whole Cat's grizz rivalry. We also 1324 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:56,360 Speaker 1: do not have a line on this game. Okay, let 1325 01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,439 Speaker 1: me see if there's one on the MGM books. Oh 1326 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,439 Speaker 1: I found owned they have a Colorado line at thirty 1327 01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 1: seven and a half. Thirty seven and a half. Should 1328 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:11,559 Speaker 1: we adjust ours? Nah, I think we're good. Um. Oh yeah, 1329 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,240 Speaker 1: there's not a line on on here for the Washington 1330 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 1: uh Montana games, so we shall make one up. If 1331 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,000 Speaker 1: there's not one, that means that it's over forty something. 1332 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:28,679 Speaker 1: So let's go thirty nine and a half. I've seen 1333 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half, so if there's no line, 1334 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 1: I think it's got to be over forty. Well, the 1335 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,679 Speaker 1: Arizona State one was forty four and a half. Okay, 1336 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,200 Speaker 1: so then it's got to be set higher than than 1337 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,639 Speaker 1: that because there was a line. All right, let's bump 1338 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:45,160 Speaker 1: it up two points then forty six and a half. Yes, okay, 1339 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm taking it. I'm not I'm not give give give 1340 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:53,439 Speaker 1: give me Montana plus forty six and a half. And 1341 01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 1: then what are we gonna set the over under at? Uh? 1342 01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking sixty three to seven, like I'm thinking skyrocket scoring, 1343 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 1: So I mean, where where are you at? What's your 1344 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:08,719 Speaker 1: final score? We'll split the baby seven is not really 1345 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:14,439 Speaker 1: that bad. I think they'll score twice though, and then 1346 01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,720 Speaker 1: they'll only score like fifty two, So I'm gonna go 1347 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:22,879 Speaker 1: like fifty two to ten. Okay. So the halfway between 1348 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:28,120 Speaker 1: halfway between sixty two and seventy is sixty six. So 1349 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 1: you're saying under sixty six, I'm saying over okay, yep, Okay, alright, 1350 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,040 Speaker 1: who do we got next? Um? Next game up is 1351 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,760 Speaker 1: setting our own lines? Yep. So we already did the 1352 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 1: L s U U C l a game. Okay. The 1353 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: next game up is the Stanford Cardinal at the Kansas 1354 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,040 Speaker 1: at Kansas State, and this is a neutral sight game. 1355 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,200 Speaker 1: If I'm remembering correctly, this is being played in a 1356 01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,559 Speaker 1: T and T stadium, Jerry World. Um, it'll be the 1357 01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 1: most interesting thing that's happened there in the last month 1358 01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:12,840 Speaker 1: because Hard Knox was a snooze fest. Um. Kansas State 1359 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,799 Speaker 1: is coming off of five consecutive losses, including a forty 1360 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:21,280 Speaker 1: five to nothing blowout uh at Iowa State and one 1361 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,840 Speaker 1: point lost to Baylor and a two point loss to 1362 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:30,840 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. Stanford finished last year pretty strong, um, including 1363 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,599 Speaker 1: their one point win over U C l At. Every 1364 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 1: single Stanford game has been incredibly close, so that's what 1365 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,240 Speaker 1: makes the Kansas State minus three lines so interesting. Remember 1366 01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,920 Speaker 1: this is a Stanford team that Las Vegas said the 1367 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 1: total win for the season at four, which is pretty 1368 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 1: which is pretty wild. I I like Stanford to cover 1369 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:59,280 Speaker 1: the spread here, um, and I I liked the over 1370 01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 1: like head be on the over. The over under heres 1371 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:06,080 Speaker 1: fifty two and a half. M hm, dude, that is 1372 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:13,200 Speaker 1: absolutely insane, dude. Stanford has been over fifty two and 1373 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 1: a half in three of their last five games. Kansas 1374 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,200 Speaker 1: State has been over fifty two and a half in 1375 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:27,200 Speaker 1: their last two games, but also two of their last five, so, um, 1376 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't expect the tackling to be all that great. 1377 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a fast playing surface. Um, I think 1378 01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:36,639 Speaker 1: we'll see some big plays on FS one and yeah, 1379 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Stanford and the over alright, cool, 1380 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:45,280 Speaker 1: all right, I will go with I will go with 1381 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Stanford as well and the over as well. Ralph, I 1382 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:56,120 Speaker 1: think you finally got one right. Okay, you better hope 1383 01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:57,600 Speaker 1: I got more than one right, because a lot of 1384 01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 1: ours match up at this point on the opposite on 1385 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,679 Speaker 1: on three of these. Okay, So what does that bring 1386 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:09,439 Speaker 1: up next? The B y U game? Uh No, the 1387 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,840 Speaker 1: Fresno State versus Oregon Ducks game. Oh. I had forgot 1388 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,240 Speaker 1: about Oregon because they didn't really matter all that much 1389 01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,760 Speaker 1: and within the scheme of things in the in the 1390 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 1: conference and whatnot, I would not be guess lit by you, 1391 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,599 Speaker 1: my friend. Fresno State. It's coming off a forty five 1392 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:32,559 Speaker 1: to nothing win against Yukon. They looked pretty good yards 1393 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 1: passing three touchdowns, no turnovers, didn't run the ball all 1394 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,080 Speaker 1: that well, didn't even try to run the ball. They 1395 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,479 Speaker 1: just really throw the ball all over the field. Um, 1396 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,599 Speaker 1: Oregon is Oregon. They're gonna have Anthony Brown. Um that 1397 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 1: they've got the running back tandem. One of which you like, 1398 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:54,880 Speaker 1: one of which your lukewarm on? Which? Which which one? 1399 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,880 Speaker 1: Am I luke warm on Travis? No, I'm more lukewarm 1400 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 1: on on CG for Dell bro No. I understand what 1401 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,519 Speaker 1: Travis Dye is like. I don't dislike him. I just 1402 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:12,680 Speaker 1: understand what he is and what his limitations are. Okay, Well, 1403 01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,759 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a pretty good big game 1404 01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:19,880 Speaker 1: against Fresno. I don't know if I don't know if 1405 01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,960 Speaker 1: they cover here, it's minus twenty and a half in 1406 01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:27,280 Speaker 1: favor of the Ducks. That would be a three touchdown 1407 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,920 Speaker 1: win with an over under of sixty four and a half. 1408 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:36,240 Speaker 1: Give me the over and give me the ducks, homy. Okay, 1409 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,880 Speaker 1: what's a what's a forty two twenty one? That's an over? Right? 1410 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:43,720 Speaker 1: That that's sixty three. That's sixty three, isn't it? And 1411 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 1: I am doing good man? Yes, yes, that's sixty three. Okay, 1412 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 1: So I will also take Oregon to cover, but I'm 1413 01:28:52,400 --> 01:29:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna take the under. The they're putting up a h 1414 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:13,160 Speaker 1: at okay or somewhere in there. All right, the next 1415 01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:22,680 Speaker 1: game up is the San Jose Eights State Spartans versus USC. Now, 1416 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,080 Speaker 1: San Jose San Jose State looked a lot better last 1417 01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:27,800 Speaker 1: week than I thought that they went. I think they 1418 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,960 Speaker 1: actually played Southern Utah. They're kind of keeping it rolling 1419 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,960 Speaker 1: with Brent Brennan, who we thought might have ended up 1420 01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:37,880 Speaker 1: the head coach of University of Arizona. Um, this is uh, 1421 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 1: this is interesting. The lines pretty close USC minus fourteen 1422 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,000 Speaker 1: with an over under of sixty. I don't believe San 1423 01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Jose State has ever beaten USC in the history of 1424 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:52,240 Speaker 1: of those two teams. Um, so where is your head 1425 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,880 Speaker 1: at here? This line is disrespectful. This line is an 1426 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,559 Speaker 1: indictment of the entire process. Also, no Gary Bryant, no 1427 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,120 Speaker 1: Gary Ryan, no Brue McCoy, no Jake Smith. The receiving 1428 01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 1: corps is super depleted. Unfortunately, they only have like five 1429 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,920 Speaker 1: or six other four stars to step in and help. 1430 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:17,040 Speaker 1: Keith Slovis. Okay, So here is where we we are 1431 01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:22,120 Speaker 1: with with this is that obviously this is an indictment 1432 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:29,120 Speaker 1: on Clay Hilton and his situation. Um. Yeah, this is 1433 01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:35,360 Speaker 1: a disaster dude. Um, I I'm gonna pick San Jose State. 1434 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take San Jose State plus plus two points. 1435 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,640 Speaker 1: I think USC wins, but this is a lot closer, 1436 01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:48,320 Speaker 1: and I'm going to take the under as well. Okay, 1437 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to roll the opposite of you, even though 1438 01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,360 Speaker 1: I think it's a massive sucker bet. And they wouldn't 1439 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,920 Speaker 1: put USC minus fourteen unless they were trying to drain 1440 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 1: people of money. So I'm gonna be one of those suckers. 1441 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,679 Speaker 1: But I can't go along with you year. If USC 1442 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,479 Speaker 1: is just gonna have to like that, I'm I'm gonna 1443 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,120 Speaker 1: go in optimistic. There's no reason this game should be 1444 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:13,360 Speaker 1: anywhere near a contest. But then again, USC made a 1445 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,600 Speaker 1: contest out of the A s U game and the 1446 01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,360 Speaker 1: U of A game last year, um, and they have 1447 01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:21,879 Speaker 1: a tendency to play down to their competition. They cannot 1448 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,080 Speaker 1: afford to do that this year. So with blind faith, 1449 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:32,759 Speaker 1: I'm going to say USC minus fourteen and the over. Okay, alright, Anyboddy, Um. 1450 01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:40,439 Speaker 1: The next game up is the oh is b y 1451 01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:47,920 Speaker 1: U at Arizona. This is quite a line. B y 1452 01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,120 Speaker 1: U minus twelve and a half with an over under 1453 01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,479 Speaker 1: a fifty four and a half. B y U is 1454 01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:59,880 Speaker 1: bringing back not a lot of experience, um in sir 1455 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,479 Speaker 1: joke of yeah, not a lot of experience for a 1456 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,600 Speaker 1: bunch of twenty four year old but still not a 1457 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,720 Speaker 1: lot of experience. Arizona is bringing back a lot of 1458 01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:13,160 Speaker 1: people who experienced a very bad season. So um, experience 1459 01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:19,200 Speaker 1: might not necessarily be the differentiator here. But Arizona is 1460 01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:23,080 Speaker 1: not terrible. They're just not great up front on both 1461 01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,840 Speaker 1: sides of the ball, and even on the offensive line 1462 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:29,519 Speaker 1: they're serviceable. They might not even be the bottom unit 1463 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:33,439 Speaker 1: in the entire pack twelve, though, I'm sure. I'm sure 1464 01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:38,000 Speaker 1: it's close. Um yeah, b y, you had a lot 1465 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 1: of success last year playing against teams that weren't super 1466 01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:49,800 Speaker 1: great or or didn't have a lot of notoriety or prestige. Um, 1467 01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, what what do you think? This 1468 01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,679 Speaker 1: is being played at Allegiant Stadium. By the way, so 1469 01:32:55,160 --> 01:33:00,160 Speaker 1: we got another neutral site game. Neutral sites tend to face. Ever, 1470 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,880 Speaker 1: the school that travels the best, which is in this 1471 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:07,519 Speaker 1: stace probably b Yu. Well, see the Allegiance. I can't 1472 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,280 Speaker 1: wait to get more games that Allegiance only because like 1473 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:17,280 Speaker 1: these neutral site games, have always favored the SEC and 1474 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,479 Speaker 1: teams in the South because they're playing so close to home. 1475 01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,200 Speaker 1: But now, bring your ass out out west, bringing your 1476 01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,160 Speaker 1: ass out west, Yeah, bring your ass out West. But 1477 01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,200 Speaker 1: then in the air conditioning, so it's not even like 1478 01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:32,760 Speaker 1: they get the full experience right of the desert southwest. YEA, 1479 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:37,479 Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to go with I'm gonna give 1480 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 1: jet Fish a little bit of credit here and also 1481 01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:44,960 Speaker 1: believe that b y U was severely overrated last year 1482 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,360 Speaker 1: because of their schedule. So I'm going to take Arizona 1483 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,800 Speaker 1: plus the twelve and a half points and I'm gonna 1484 01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 1: take the over fifty fifty four. I am definitely taking 1485 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:04,719 Speaker 1: me under. Um. I think this could be like seventeen games. Yeah, 1486 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,840 Speaker 1: I do. I think Arizona is probably gonna try to 1487 01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,040 Speaker 1: be pretty run heavy. Um. They wouldn't be splitting reps 1488 01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,800 Speaker 1: at quarterback if they thought they had the answer there. 1489 01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:14,800 Speaker 1: And I think that that the b y U unit 1490 01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,559 Speaker 1: that I'm most impressed with heading into the season is 1491 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,559 Speaker 1: Micah Harper and those defensive backs, and so I think 1492 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of running. I think B 1493 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,600 Speaker 1: y you made the wrong decision at quarterback in in 1494 01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Hall, and we'll see if he makes it through 1495 01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,400 Speaker 1: the season. I think they made the wrong decision at 1496 01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,800 Speaker 1: second string quarterback in in Baylor Rommy. I think the 1497 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:34,960 Speaker 1: future there is Jacobconiver. I think they should roll with 1498 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,360 Speaker 1: him right away and uh and I think that if 1499 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,200 Speaker 1: they did, they'd probably cover this twelve and a half. 1500 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:42,600 Speaker 1: But because they did not, Arizona plus twelve and a 1501 01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,760 Speaker 1: half and I'm rolling with the under. So you and 1502 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,760 Speaker 1: I are opposite on the total, but we're both We're 1503 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:52,040 Speaker 1: both taking the Wildcats in Las Vegas. Though I don't 1504 01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,200 Speaker 1: know if they win. I just think they'll cover. I 1505 01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,160 Speaker 1: couldn't commit to saying whether or not they actually win 1506 01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:06,120 Speaker 1: this game. Alright, alright them. The next thing up is 1507 01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,960 Speaker 1: the last. No, nobody still have two more games. We 1508 01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:16,320 Speaker 1: have Nevada at cal So. Nevada has been practicing in 1509 01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,960 Speaker 1: the Bay because of terrible Reno air quality. Nevada is 1510 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:23,760 Speaker 1: a really good team and they're very well coached. And 1511 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:29,120 Speaker 1: the line is reflecting some some very interesting uh stuff 1512 01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:32,080 Speaker 1: here because Cal at home is only favored by three 1513 01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,240 Speaker 1: and a half over a Mountain West team with an 1514 01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:40,400 Speaker 1: over under fifty two and a half. Okay, that is surprising, 1515 01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:44,760 Speaker 1: and it's also not okay, like this same Nevada team 1516 01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,000 Speaker 1: did lose by three at Hawaii and got beat by 1517 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:52,240 Speaker 1: ten by San Jose State, two pretty good teams last year. Yeah, 1518 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:57,200 Speaker 1: but they beat two lane in a bowl. They beat Fresno, 1519 01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:03,200 Speaker 1: they beat San Diego State, um, and Cal is fresh 1520 01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:08,559 Speaker 1: off it went over Oregon, are they not? Uh no? 1521 01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:13,599 Speaker 1: Cal didn't wait no or Oregan State beat uh No? 1522 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:20,760 Speaker 1: Hold up, yes, yes, no, didn't. Cal beat Oregon. Did 1523 01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,639 Speaker 1: you wipe it from your memory? Okay? I know they 1524 01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:29,760 Speaker 1: lost to So, they beat Stanford, they beat U C. 1525 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:38,040 Speaker 1: L A, they beat USC, they lost to Oregon State. Cal. Yeah, yeah, 1526 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,040 Speaker 1: they had to have lost to Cal because they beat 1527 01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:44,080 Speaker 1: Washington State too. That was their fourth win. Yeah so yep, yep, 1528 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,040 Speaker 1: so that's what they lost to. Man, you really men 1529 01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:54,559 Speaker 1: in black yourself? He didn't even remember? Yeah? So, so 1530 01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:58,760 Speaker 1: Cal is fresh their last game, Cal beat Oregon and 1531 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,960 Speaker 1: they're saying that this game is expected to be possibly 1532 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:03,840 Speaker 1: even closer than that. Cows of three and a half 1533 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:11,960 Speaker 1: point favorite. Yep. Okay, alrighty, alright, the oh so I'm 1534 01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 1: going to you gotta make a pick. See the memory 1535 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,559 Speaker 1: of Oregon losing has completely thrown you off. All right, 1536 01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Cow plus. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna take 1537 01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:27,479 Speaker 1: Cow to cover. And this is going to be a 1538 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:33,559 Speaker 1: you know, thirty one too. What does thirty one eight 1539 01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:44,040 Speaker 1: team get me nine at a field goal? Let's say one? 1540 01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,960 Speaker 1: So all right, I'm gonna take the over two. I'm 1541 01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:51,000 Speaker 1: a sucker for overs. Okay, over fifty two and a half. 1542 01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,360 Speaker 1: I even though you think that I don't, I'm saying 1543 01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,600 Speaker 1: that this is gonna be a big game for Garbers, 1544 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,679 Speaker 1: much like when when he went out into SEC country 1545 01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,280 Speaker 1: and tore it up. I think he's gonna come out 1546 01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,320 Speaker 1: really strong. I like Cow minus three and a half, 1547 01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,240 Speaker 1: though I have a lot of faith in in the 1548 01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,040 Speaker 1: that Nevada team. I watched what they did to my 1549 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,360 Speaker 1: Wyoming Cowboys last year, breaking our quarterbacks leg on like 1550 01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,639 Speaker 1: the first play of the game. Um, hopefully that doesn't 1551 01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,920 Speaker 1: happen to Cal because that is the absolute worst. And 1552 01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't know who their backup is. Um, So we're 1553 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:25,920 Speaker 1: gonna roll with Cal minus three and a half. But 1554 01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,240 Speaker 1: I am going to take the under on the fifty 1555 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:32,639 Speaker 1: two and a half. All right. The last game up 1556 01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:47,200 Speaker 1: is Utah State versus Washington State. Okay, So the line 1557 01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:51,600 Speaker 1: on Utah State in Washington State is Washington State minus seventeen. 1558 01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:54,960 Speaker 1: Have we even gotten a starting quarterback out of Nick 1559 01:38:55,040 --> 01:39:01,040 Speaker 1: Rolovic yet? Um No, but I can confirm that I 1560 01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:05,360 Speaker 1: that I've heard that it is going to be uh 1561 01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:11,720 Speaker 1: Jaden Delora. Okay, so I think that, but neither one 1562 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:17,840 Speaker 1: has been playing particularly well. Okay, so you could see 1563 01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:23,519 Speaker 1: both quarterbacks. Yeah. Um. Utah State got a nice change 1564 01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,920 Speaker 1: at head coach, bringing in Arkansas State's head coach, who 1565 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,960 Speaker 1: is very, very good. I don't think that he's able 1566 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,439 Speaker 1: to pull off a miracle in time. I think Washington 1567 01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,320 Speaker 1: State is going to be excited just to get out 1568 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,760 Speaker 1: of the shadow of distraction and play some football. I'm 1569 01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,720 Speaker 1: leaning real heavy on Washington State with a with a 1570 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,320 Speaker 1: with a twenty four twenty eight point win against Utah State, 1571 01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,720 Speaker 1: so I definitely have them covering. I don't like the 1572 01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:51,080 Speaker 1: over under of sixties six and a half. I don't 1573 01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,920 Speaker 1: think that Utah State can can help boost that total 1574 01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,160 Speaker 1: um by scoring a bunch of points against Washington State. 1575 01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,679 Speaker 1: So I am rolling with Washington State. I think they win. 1576 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,360 Speaker 1: We'll call it thirty eight to fourteen, so they'll cover 1577 01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:18,320 Speaker 1: and it'll hit the under, all right, Um, okay, so ah, 1578 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm going Washington State. Actually, I'm gonna take Utah State 1579 01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:30,560 Speaker 1: and I'm going to take the under. I think Washington 1580 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:37,799 Speaker 1: State wins the game, but that it's a lot closer 1581 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:42,960 Speaker 1: than they wanted to be. Okay, all right then that 1582 01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,040 Speaker 1: that is everybody, I got, I got it all written down. 1583 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,800 Speaker 1: We're both tied at one and one right now. Um. 1584 01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,120 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting weekend for the For 1585 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,840 Speaker 1: for the Pack twelve, I'm I'm open. I'm hoping at 1586 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,840 Speaker 1: nine and three at a minimum. Yep, nine and three 1587 01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,000 Speaker 1: at a minimum. Anything else would be kind of embarrassing 1588 01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,680 Speaker 1: and really leaning heavy on USC and and and Washington 1589 01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,000 Speaker 1: State to not and and cal to not do some 1590 01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:12,040 Speaker 1: nonsense here. Um and uh and yeah. That that's pretty 1591 01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,360 Speaker 1: much it for that. I do want to know, uh, 1592 01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 1: George before we sign off, if you saw the new 1593 01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,800 Speaker 1: alternate uniforms that a s U and Utah put out 1594 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:26,320 Speaker 1: there as well as the National Championship throwbacks for Washington. Yes, 1595 01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:30,240 Speaker 1: I did. Um. Washington people weren't happy with them because 1596 01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:34,000 Speaker 1: they're like, Yo, this isn't like the uniform And my 1597 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,760 Speaker 1: thing is you didn't win a national championship. So so 1598 01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:41,679 Speaker 1: there's so, there's that. So you're celebrating something that didn't happen. 1599 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 1: So you know, what do you think of them? Though? 1600 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:49,400 Speaker 1: Outside of outside of I like them. I like them. 1601 01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't notice that much of a difference to Charist. 1602 01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,719 Speaker 1: It is my favorite look that they have with the 1603 01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,880 Speaker 1: with the gold helmet. I think. I think the gold 1604 01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,920 Speaker 1: helmet is the way to go. The gold the too. 1605 01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:03,160 Speaker 1: Two of the most solid helmets in all of college 1606 01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,439 Speaker 1: football is the gold helmet with the purple W for 1607 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:11,080 Speaker 1: Washington and then the block A uh Captain America helmets 1608 01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,439 Speaker 1: for for you have A. I think they should roll 1609 01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:15,360 Speaker 1: with those every single time. But I get that people 1610 01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:18,679 Speaker 1: like variety. What did you think of the the US 1611 01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:23,799 Speaker 1: S Salt Lake City? Oh dude, I love I love 1612 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:29,519 Speaker 1: those bro love them, love dude. I could not love 1613 01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:35,519 Speaker 1: them anymore. I Um. It made me honestly want to. 1614 01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:39,840 Speaker 1: It made me think that they should change their colors 1615 01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,519 Speaker 1: because the way that they had Solomon enis like out 1616 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:49,080 Speaker 1: on the salt flats for the UM to showcase it. Yeah, 1617 01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,200 Speaker 1: it looked good man. I know they're proud of their 1618 01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:53,600 Speaker 1: red or whatever, and I know we don't have a 1619 01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,400 Speaker 1: ton of that like solid red in the pack twelve, 1620 01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,920 Speaker 1: so they definitely have their place within the color scheme. 1621 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,680 Speaker 1: But these are sick man. I hope they may roll 1622 01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,360 Speaker 1: these out once a year. I know there have been 1623 01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:08,559 Speaker 1: other military appreciation ones and military tribute uniforms, but these 1624 01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:12,200 Speaker 1: are these just feel like Utah, Like, I don't know. 1625 01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,680 Speaker 1: I think they're really good. Yeah, no, dude, I love it. 1626 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,400 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. What do you think 1627 01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,600 Speaker 1: of the So one of the most controversial things that 1628 01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:23,000 Speaker 1: ever happened in Arizona State football history is the banana 1629 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:27,360 Speaker 1: the all gold three different colors of of gold jerseys 1630 01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,840 Speaker 1: that a SU used to wear and uh, and it's 1631 01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,559 Speaker 1: been a long time since they brought back at a 1632 01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:36,840 Speaker 1: gold jersey set up. And that's what um, that's what 1633 01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:38,639 Speaker 1: a s U is gonna is gonna go with against 1634 01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,320 Speaker 1: Colorado this year. They're not wearing them this Thursday. But 1635 01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:45,320 Speaker 1: what did you think of the super sized sparky gold 1636 01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,439 Speaker 1: jersey with the Matt gold star on the sleeve and 1637 01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:52,120 Speaker 1: the maroon pants. I think it's solid, Like it's it's 1638 01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:56,360 Speaker 1: not I mean, it's hard to get too special with 1639 01:43:56,400 --> 01:44:00,000 Speaker 1: those colors. I mean, like they are very striking colors. 1640 01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,800 Speaker 1: So um, it's something that when I see it, I'm like, 1641 01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,200 Speaker 1: oh man, Minnesota would look great in this, because that's 1642 01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 1: kind of the same color scheme. I am always a 1643 01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:14,120 Speaker 1: huge proponent of using actual gold over like the cartoon 1644 01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:19,280 Speaker 1: yellow gold. Always anytime you can. So those sleeves, and 1645 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,679 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of traditionalists that didn't like them, 1646 01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 1: those sleeves make the entire thing for me. I absolutely 1647 01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:30,599 Speaker 1: love the sleeves. Alright, alright, um, well you guys. That 1648 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,679 Speaker 1: is the back twelve apostles for this week one coming 1649 01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,839 Speaker 1: up this season. I'm George Reis Sir, He's Ralph Sam's. 1650 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:42,280 Speaker 1: Then Sam's didn't Ralph Hams didn't piece out. Catch you 1651 01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:43,559 Speaker 1: guys next week.