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Speaker 2: Raybuds NFL Week fifteen, opening week of the playoffs for some,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go over our player projections. As always, I'll

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Speaker 2: into each of our top fives at the skill positions,

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Speaker 2: discuss guys we're high and low on, and we'll have

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Speaker 2: some player props for each position as well, Kerner. But

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Speaker 2: first gotta go with the cardio Kings for week fourteen,

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Speaker 2: which are the guys who ran the most routes without

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Speaker 1: Who we got kids were just running around sway too much.

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Speaker 1: king of week fourteen was our guy Brandon Cooks with

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Speaker 2: Now Buffalo's they they lost the plot with that, with

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Speaker 1: Who do you like for Week fifteen? Yeah, I'm high

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Speaker 2: game to suit his you know, desires, and and and

430
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 2: then he's probably uh making his reads to suit a J.

431
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: Brown's desires because the minute A J. Brown started popping off,

432
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 2: they've been on a losing street, which makes no sense

433
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: like that, there's no way the Eagles that have not

434
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 2: gotten A J. Brown involved the minute they start, he's

435
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: getting a hundred yard games.

436
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: They should be losing that.

437
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 2: It's that just tells me that it's it's Jalen Hurts

438
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: and then it's a J. Brown. So I'm not gonna

439
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: give it like a J and excu Hurts excuses because

440
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 2: a J dropped balls. But I'm not gonna you know,

441
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: let AJ off the hook.

442
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: Either.

443
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: But ultimately that's Syriana because he he let them like

444
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: called fewer design runs. He's just like he's letting bark

445
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: We's bump ass being there over h Bigsby all the time.

446
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 2: Like bark We needs like a freaking like he needs

447
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: like everything to go right on and put the defense

448
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: to completely forget about him, to to like pop off.

449
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 2: It's just there's just too much respect to veterans. You

450
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 2: start just like the Chiefs. It's like the Patrick Mahos

451
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: wants to throw the Travis Kelce triple covered uh in

452
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: key situations like how many times? How many else is

453
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 2: he dropped into in interceptions this year like three going

454
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: against the Eagles to one or two against the East.

455
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: These guys, these these veteran guys, these old guys. Man,

456
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 2: he's old guys all right. Running back for Week fifteen

457
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: Kerner who got in the top five.

458
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: I got CMC Jamier Gibbs, Devon a Chan assuming he plays,

459
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: James Cook and Saquon Barkley.

460
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: Got McCaffrey, Gibbs, John Robinson, a Chan and James Cook.

461
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: Still don't trust Barkley, still don't don't trust Still don't

462
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: trust it. I mean, is Wayne Johnson's probably missing again, right, he's.

463
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: Uh, he's questionable to upend the week. It seems like

464
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: he's he always likes tries to play through it and

465
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: then reaggravates it. So who knows. Uh, but yeah, that's

466
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 1: that's definitely something I will probably impact my my final

467
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: rank and I have have be genre right there. So yeah,

468
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: he's hanging on by a thread, that for sure.

469
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: In the Syrianni Ara era, I believe the Eagles of

470
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: the total is now three eight and one, so like under,

471
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: like the over is three eight and one, and then

472
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: they're they're four and eight to their implied total under

473
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: or eight and four eight and four to the under

474
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: on their implied totals. Oh okay, gotcha, yeah yeah, yeah,

475
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: like the over is four and eight. Yeah, so like

476
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: that in the Sirianni era without Wayne Johnson's it is

477
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: big for the run game too, I think, uh, okay,

478
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: who who are you high on running back?

479
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm high on Woody Marks at home against the Cardinals, Uh,

480
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: just really continues to struggle with efficiency, but that doesn't

481
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: matter if he's getting twenty six carries, right, So he

482
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: had a season high twenty six rush tempts against the Chiefs.

483
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: A lot of that, you know, had to do with

484
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb force out of the game with that REB injury.

485
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: No clue if he's going to return this week. But

486
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: even if Chub's out, I don't know if the Texans

487
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: have another running back they really trust enough to eat

488
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: into Mark's workload the same way that Chubb does. So

489
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: you know, I'm expecting a pretty big workload for Marx

490
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: this week. You know, he's pretty involved in the passing

491
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: game as well, so he has an excellent matchup against

492
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: Cardinals that allowed Blake Horn for one hundred and twenty

493
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: plus rushing yards, Kiren for eighty plus rushing yards, and

494
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: even Ronnie Rivers had some fun against them with forty

495
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: plus rushing yards. So I think this is a good

496
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: spot for Marx to kind of combine that volume with

497
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: you know, slightly better efficiency. So he's all the way

498
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: up to RB eleven for me to open the week,

499
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: and I'm actually projecting Chubb to play, so he might

500
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, crack. My top ten of Chubb is ruled out,

501
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: but that's got to be the highest Marks will ever

502
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: be in my rankings.

503
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: I would have been higher if a Goon Bawawe hadn't

504
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: gotten that Colne Toys. Yeah, I mean, Jesus, maybe that's

505
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: the test a week you bet, the the Mark's first touchdown,

506
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: a Goomba wally last touchdown or something like that. It

507
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: chubs out.

508
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like like if they're blowing them out like

509
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: British Brooks. Your guy Corey Schrader, Oh yeah, he's a problem.

510
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, if Chubs out, he's probably active. Right. They

511
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: they've typically had like four even sometimes even five backs active, right,

512
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: so can I have to sort that out? But yeah,

513
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: that that's good call. Yeah, Cody can't do the erection

514
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: selection parlay though, Chubs out, damn it?

515
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, yeah, Cody straight. I mean, I don't

516
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: know because they cut they signed Strader, they cut Yakav Johnson,

517
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: but they'll probably bring Johnson back. He'll probably be the

518
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: third tight end again slash full back, eah back whatever.

519
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: Uh So, I mean this is just there's a chance

520
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: it's just the same exact line up except Shrub.

521
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: Maybe it would be straighter active for Chrub.

522
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: Trader could still be inactive, like just like the Damian

523
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: Pierce inactive.

524
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but none of these guys, none of these guys

525
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: are commanding, you know, like three plus carries, I would

526
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: say yea unless used to Yeah, unless it's like a blowout,

527
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: you know, Ronnie Rivers style. So yeah, I'm projecting marks

528
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: near his ceiling. So even with you know, the lack

529
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: of efficiency, he's still popping in my model.

530
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean part of that was it was

531
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: just that kind of game last week. You know, well,

532
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: scoring get a lot of caries when you don't when

533
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 2: you don't convert, and so I don't think that's going

534
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: to be an every week thing for Marx. I think

535
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: it'll be more efficient in this matchup. I'm high on

536
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: Chris Rodriguez Junior against the Giants. He's stilled the way

537
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: back for the Commanders, and this Giants defense been the

538
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: worst in the Weague against the run. This is a

539
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: game where they should fare better. They had just fifty

540
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: two plays on offense against the Vikings, fifty two snaps

541
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: and you know, trailing game script pretty much from the jump.

542
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: So not a good spot for Rodriguez, but this is

543
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: the game. Two and a half point spread in a

544
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: game against a bad run defense could be some weather.

545
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll have a huge impact, but it

546
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: looks like we're gonna get Mariota again, So I think

547
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Rodriguez could be kind of the focal point of the

548
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: offense in this spot against the Giants. So like him,

549
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: he's the he's still round, like ECR running back thirty,

550
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: I think he's he's kind of borderline RB two for

551
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: me heading into the week, who are you lo on?

552
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm low on Bucky Irving opens the week as my

553
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: RB twenty. It looks like ECR still has him, you know,

554
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: like RB seven top ten. I think that might be

555
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: wishful thinking at this point, because you know, he finally

556
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: did return from his injury a couple of weeks ago,

557
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: and he has seen you know, decent workload. This is

558
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: now two straight games where he's seen seventeen plus touches,

559
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: which is all we can ask for with Bucky, right Like,

560
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: I think he's extremely talented, so that's certainly enough work

561
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: for him to put up good numbers. But you know,

562
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: Rashaun White and Seawan Tucker have been playing well, and

563
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: you know they both ate into his workload a little

564
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: bit more last week. So I just think given their

565
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: skill sets, they could really cap Bucky's upside quite a bit,

566
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: which you don't like to see because if you took Bucky,

567
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: he was inside what the top ten at running back,

568
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: so not what you're looking for. And Bucky just even

569
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: when he has been healthy this year, hasn't been that efficient.

570
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: If you look at you know, the top the forty

571
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: five qualified running backs right now in terms of success rate,

572
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: the lowest is Ramadre Stevenson, which shouldn't be too shocking.

573
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: The second lowest success rate is Bucky Irving. He just

574
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been as you know efficient this year. So you know,

575
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: with you know, Sean Tucker playing well, Rashad White's actually

576
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: been really you know, decent this year, I just think

577
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: this could be more of a murky committee than people want.

578
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: So I'm a lot lower on Bucky heading into this week.

579
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's all the way down to RB twenty

580
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: against Falcons.

581
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: For me, yeah, as part of it, I think it's

582
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: just the challenge of trying to work in those those

583
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: three backs too with it kind of it's like a

584
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: Falcon situation where it's like when algiers there, it's like

585
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: the defense just kind of knows it's a run. It's

586
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: like Bucky is not the passing down back like per

587
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: se and then he's and then Tucker is like another

588
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: early downback, so it's like you kind of expect, you're

589
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: expecting runs and they don't have Liam Cohen there, so

590
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: that the line probably took a step back. So yeah,

591
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: it's been a little tougher. He's he's played like he's

592
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: looked good himself, but yeah, it's the efficiency hasn't hasn't

593
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: really been there for him. I'm all on Chase Brown.

594
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 2: Kind of a similar situation for him, where it's the

595
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: the efficiency in dismatchup. I don't think will be as great.

596
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: You know, against the Bills, it wasn't really there, but

597
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: he did bail himself out with a couple of touchdowns.

598
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: But pe Ryan has been cutting into the work. Twenty

599
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: two snaps for p Ryan, forty for Brown. That's a

600
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: little it's cutting it a little close there in a

601
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: game where they ran sixty snaps. You expect Brown, you

602
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: want Brown to be, you know, seventy percent plus. He

603
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 2: was around sixty five percent and a little less if

604
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: you count you know, the fact that they were on

605
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: the field together a couple of times, twelve carries to

606
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: six for Brown and then twenty eight past snaps to sixteen.

607
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: So he's you know, at any the variants at any

608
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: in any given game, he could end up with, you know,

609
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: ten touches for forty yards or something like that, no

610
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 2: touchdowns and he's going to sink you. So he's got

611
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: ecr RB ten. I think that's a little rich for

612
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,239
Speaker 2: Chase Brown in this matchup because the Ravens has been

613
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: a lot better against the run over the past, like

614
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: the last two thirds of the season. They started out

615
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: really poorly first five games that they've been much improved

616
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: ever since. So not the easiest matchup and definitely not

617
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: as good as a match up as Buffalo. So, uh yeah,

618
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: low on Chase Brown this week. I think you were

619
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: low on him last week. If I want to say,

620
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: I think that was the right call. You know he did,

621
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: he did get.

622
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: Of course scored.

623
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was the right It was the right call.

624
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: It was the right car.

625
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're big on process here, but yeah, yeah, I'm

626
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: with you on that one. This is a tough one

627
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: because they were on By this week. The Panthers were

628
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: on by, but before they went on By, we saw

629
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: Tuba Hubbard, the guy making way more money, have a

630
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: better game, and he kind of operates the lead back,

631
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: so kind of here, kind of curious where you're projecting

632
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: them and kind of your thoughts on what to expect

633
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: from this backfield this week, because we kind of need

634
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: to make, you know, lineup decisions based on these guys.

635
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna just do Rico, dubdele versus Cuba,

636
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: Hubbard half PPR scoring, and I'm gonna make Doubtle a

637
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: favorite still and I'm going to make him a one

638
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: point nine half PPR point favorite. Who are you going with?

639
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: Oh ah, Tuba Cuba because he's number one. I think

640
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 2: he was trending up like a couple of games, I

641
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: want to say, before the bye, like those last maybe

642
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: two games, I think Tuba was shredding up, Datto was

643
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: trending down. They've had they've had time to think about it.

644
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: Tuba's should be healthy, and if there's a split, you're

645
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: getting more passing work for Tuba at this point. I

646
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: would think it's kind of the way it's set up

647
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: so like earlier in the year, I think it was

648
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: like Dowdo was more of like the the pass down

649
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: back and Tuba was kind of the early down back,

650
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: and then it's kind of switched now where if Dado

651
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: is still the starter, I still think Tuba would get

652
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: that pass down work. So I kind of want that.

653
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: In the situation like this.

654
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: The Saints have been feisty and they've been beasting against

655
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: the run, so yeah, yeah, I think I want the

656
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: passing down back.

657
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: Who could just be the lead back.

658
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna kind of it's it's

659
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: a leap of faith a little bit, but I think

660
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: I think we might see with the buy and time

661
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: to think about it, and like you said, the contract,

662
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: I think Tuba trending up.

663
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, you have them like pretty close. Would

664
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: you say both are kind of like high end RB

665
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: three flex options or like low end RB two, Like

666
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: how are you kind of evaluating him?

667
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: I think high end RB three flex options because the

668
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: same like I said, the Saints, they've been decent and

669
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: it's a low total game, so you can get in

670
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: a situation where the backfield combines for like twenty carries

671
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: for seventy yards and no touchdowns.

672
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, both both backs have a wide

673
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: range of outcomes because it could be just hot hand

674
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: where you know there was that one game that kind

675
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: of just alternated each drive the whole game, right, so

676
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: they've tried that out. They might go with like you know, Ricos,

677
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: the Cuba starts, the other one gets the next drive,

678
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: and then just go with the hot hand where one

679
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: back has a really game and the others kind of

680
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: left in the dust. It's just a really val situation

681
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: where I feel for you if you have to make

682
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: a call. But I'd say, yeah, starting both, you know,

683
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: just lower expectations I think would make sense here. But

684
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very close.

685
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Doata, I think might even have like he

686
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: might have a lower floor than it looks if he's

687
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: you know, he's kind of shuting passing down work again,

688
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: because then it's he has the floor of being the

689
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: number two back and then the floor of not seeing

690
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: many catches either, which is prepared to where he's going

691
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: to probably be ranked. Is it could be disastrous, all right,

692
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: Wide receiver top five?

693
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: All right? I got j s N number one obviously,

694
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: and then Jamar Chase, Poka Akua, A Monra, and George Pickens.

695
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got js N, Chase, no jas En, Dakua, Chase,

696
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: uh Rashi, Rice and a Manra. So I'm not I'm

697
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 2: not knocking Rice as much for that that that gaming

698
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: into Houston, I guess, But yeah, it was like it

699
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: was one of those games where you could kind of

700
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: see the Chiefs being in a tougher spot. This is

701
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: a zone more zone heavy defense. I think Rice will

702
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 2: be okay. Adams is close too. I'm assuming a Monra

703
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 2: is good to go, right he I mean, he's he's

704
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: like ninety yards against the Cowboys.

705
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: He like played through a doubtful tag. I was pissed

706
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: because I you know, I locked into Slaw's uh, you know,

707
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: receiving yard prop earlier in the morning. But the whole

708
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: market was just kind of assuming a Monra was out

709
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: and then he played and he was obviously fine. So yeah,

710
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: that was rough. But yeah, so I'm I'm guessing he's

711
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: totally fine. So he's gonna have ten days now, yeah,

712
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: to rest up. So yeah, I'm guessing he's gonna be

713
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: like one hundred percent by then. Who are you high

714
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: on receiver? I'm high on Deebo Samuel this week. You know,

715
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: his days of offering wide receiver one upset are clearly over,

716
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: and he's been kind of teetering in that like wide

717
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: receiver three range for me, and you know they did.

718
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: Terry mclaurin's back, even Thoah Brown is back and he

719
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: had a full time role. I don't really see those

720
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: two really impacting Debo as much. He kind of has

721
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: his role you know underneath, maybe see design carry or two.

722
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: But I think with zach Ertz now out with the

723
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: tourney cl that does give Deebo specifically, maybe a couple

724
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: more targets a game going forward, because we're going to see,

725
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, a guy like John Bates probably take over

726
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: as lead tight end and Ben Sennett probably mix in

727
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: a bit more. But overall, I think we're gonna see

728
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: fewer targets going to the tight end position in general,

729
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: and we kind of saw that with Austin Neckler also

730
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: getting ruled out for this season. You know, he was

731
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: commanding a higher target share than all these running backs combined.

732
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: So I think just Deebo Samuel probably offers a high

733
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: enough floor now to be like a high end wide

734
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: receiver three this week against the Giants. So you know,

735
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 1: I'm opening up with him like wide receiver twenty five,

736
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: which is a bit higher than he usually is in

737
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: my ranks. And I think, just like I said, a

738
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: lot of that just has to do with Ertz being

739
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: out kind of opens up targets, specifically to Deebo. I think, yeah,

740
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean.

741
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: His commander's offense, it's it's gotta be McLaurin and Deebo

742
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: in the pass game now. And they cut Chris More,

743
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: I mean Moah Brown. I don't think he's gonna be

744
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: a big part of it. We'll see. Maybe maybe his

745
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: production will go up, but who knows. I mean, I

746
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: think Debo has got to be the guy they look

747
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: too to close out the year. But uh, just a weird, weird,

748
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: weird year for that. That commander's offense last year and

749
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: a year where the egos were vulnerable too, they could

750
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: have made some noise. I feel like if maybe if

751
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: Daniel stays healthy, I'm on Josevash for the Bengals. I

752
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: think that we're gonna see Higgins miss again. He was

753
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: in the concussion protocol. What is second time in a

754
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: month now that Higgins is well.

755
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: He went into it like in the game and then

756
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: he came back in so that that was the problem

757
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: that he was out there taking heads even though it

758
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: looked like he had a concussion. So yeah, he's I'm

759
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: just ruling him out at this point my my productions.

760
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know Burton's not gonna like he'll probably

761
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: get healthy scratch for some unforeseen reason.

762
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: Burton's gone. They really cut him.

763
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't even say that.

764
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: He god is gone.

765
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: The crap, so marking him down for zero percent routes.

766
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: He just joined the Browns practice squad. I'm joking. He's

767
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: actually cut. He's gone. He's not a bangle anymore.

768
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: Oh wow, No, I didn't see that in a transaction.

769
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I see it now. Yeah, I must have

770
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: missed that. I usually do my normal like Monday transaction

771
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: just like it's just like guys who are like, oh

772
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: rejoints practice squad. So I must have I must have

773
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: rolled past it. Thought they were just putting him like

774
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: on I R or something.

775
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah he's cut.

776
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: Wow, the Falcons will play him and he'll be their

777
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: best receiver or second best.

778
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has the talent. But yeah, they suspended him

779
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: last week and then they just said that's that's that.

780
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: And Abdul Carter is dangerously approaching this territory. I hate

781
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: to say it, but yeah, I have to spend it

782
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: every week.

783
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: I mean, he's I think he's better than Burton, so

784
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: hopefully not. But yeah, so yeah, so that that's just

785
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: another thing that Yosavash doesn't have to deal with always,

786
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: like Mitch Tinsley, for like a touchdown if if t

787
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: Higgins is out. But I think Joseava he'll be probably

788
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: ninety percent or so routes run, so he has a

789
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: chance to be like our wide receiver four in this matchup,

790
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, with Higgins. I mean, Higgins has been commanding

791
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: a pretty big target share and got a couple of

792
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: touchdowns even with Chase in there. So yeah, I like

793
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: Josafagh this week. I don't think Higgins gonna play, so

794
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: I know he hasn't been officially ruled out, but yeah,

795
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: it's usually a nine day thing with a concussion and

796
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: then yeah two in a month. I think I would

797
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 2: think almost certainly he's not active. All right, Who are

798
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: you low on?

799
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: I'm lower on Corolan Sutton this week against the Packers.

800
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: Similar reason why I'm lower on bow next obviously, but

801
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: Sutton's coming off a couple of solid games here against

802
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, the Raiders in command the easier matchups, but

803
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, there's just a lot of moving pieces in

804
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: this offense as always, but R. J. Harvey getting a

805
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: season high you know, sixty percent routes run rate could

806
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: eat in the Suddons, you know, target share because Harvey's

807
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: been able to command you know, a pretty high target share.

808
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: So if he's if he's seeing more routes, that could

809
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: eat into everybody's target rate. But Evan Ingram last week

810
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: saw a big dip in target rate, so I think

811
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: he could bounce back this week, even even though I

812
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: don't think he's play himself. But there hasn't bounced Bryant.

813
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: He hasn't bounced. Evan Ingram hasn't bounced to where he

814
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: can bounce back like he hasn't bounced. Initially, I feel like,

815
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: well he's been.

816
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: He's been like hovering around like a twenty twenty two

817
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: percent target rate, right. The problem is he's just not

818
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: out there. So that's you know, that's why you can't

819
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: play him. But last last week he also wasn't seeing

820
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 1: target So I just it's kinna bounce back from last week.

821
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: But you know, Pat Bryant is really starting to see

822
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, more playing time, you know, a higher target share.

823
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: So just there's a lot of mounts to feed in

824
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: this offense, and Sudden usually is the stable force and

825
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: he still is. But I just think this week he

826
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: has a lower floor than usual because again I'm downgrading

827
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: Knicks and you know, the passing the offense in general

828
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: this week against the Packers. So he's, you know, wide

829
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: receiver thirty eight. He's probably gonna be in certain decisions

830
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: this week depending on how many wide receivers do you start.

831
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, a little bit lower on setting this week.

832
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: You know. Again, nice little solid two game stretch here,

833
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: but is a much much tougher matchup here.

834
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but ev Ingram has two games of double digit

835
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: Fantasy points, one of them two weeks he doesn't score.

836
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: He has zero touchdowns, right, he hasn't scored a touchdowns? Yeah, yeah,

837
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: he has one. But yeah, let me see. I mean,

838
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: his target rate's been decent.

839
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: He's done nothing all years nothing. Yeah, but look at

840
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: the numbers. He's done nothing like it's yeah, I had

841
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: to touchdown and in one game where had seventy something

842
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: yards against Washington and that's really been it.

843
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I will he's in He's in the

844
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: same offense, commanding the same target rate as this guy.

845
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: That we're shitting on. Just Sutton is out there for

846
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, way more snaps. Yeah, but you know, Brian again,

847
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: Brant is an emerging option in this offense. And you know,

848
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm high on Franklin. Franklin's playing I don't know what

849
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: the hell happened, but Franklin's playing time took a huge hit.

850
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: So that's interesting. But yeah, it's it's just always something.

851
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: Oh little little Jordan Humphrey. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, so yeah,

852
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: so he he saw thirty three target rate. So anyways,

853
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: it's a shit show as always. Who is usually the

854
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: stable force? Is my wide receiver thirty eight this week?

855
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: That's my entire point.

856
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Will Jordan Humphrey is essentially what they want out

857
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 2: of everyon Ingram like a big bodied, run blocking red jog.

858
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: Threat my touchdown pick this week if I get this game.

859
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: Didn't they sign Elaijah Moore? I want to say it.

860
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: This is that?

861
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: Is that?

862
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he's uh, he's on the practice squad,

863
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: but he could pop up at any time too, right.

864
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they watched herfield, so I mean, I guess

865
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore doesn't play special team, so they probably wouldn't

866
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 2: that's why they probably have Humphrey up instead of instead

867
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: of more. Okay, I'm on, I'm gonna go out and

868
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: live here because I've been high on this guy. I mean,

869
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: he was my touchdown bet everywhere last week, Michael Wilson,

870
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: and I'm lowing him this week. He is the ecry

871
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: receiver twelve. This is Houston, not not fucking with it,

872
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: not not messing around with the Houston, with the Houston defense.

873
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't care how good Wilson's been, even if Marvin

874
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: Harrison is not back, and well Greg Geors is on

875
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: IR so he's done. So what would the lineup be

876
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: if it was if Harrison is back, because they weavers

877
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: not a slot guy either, right, So like what do

878
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: they do at slot?

879
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: Elijah Higgins? Yeah, I don't know. He's like the mm

880
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: ingro of the Cardinals. Yeah yeah, he saw a huge

881
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: I almost took his prop. He saw a huge increase

882
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: in playing time. But what do you get like one target? Okay,

883
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: no yard?

884
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure.

885
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. He Well he's just there to watch Trey McBride. Uh.

886
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: And I'm pissed that triple crown.

887
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: I was looking at that like, oh my god, if

888
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: if they complete that pass, if they get if they

889
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: get the end zone, that's it, like you win it.

890
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: And then it just stole down.

891
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: You know the problem is Puka saw like one hundred

892
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: percent of the rams yardage. I needed Xavier Smith to

893
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: just catch one longer pass or like Divante to do something.

894
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: But someone, someone took what I did and did the

895
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: smart thing. They took Korn to lead the game in rushing,

896
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: Jacoby leading the game in passing, and then they just

897
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: took Michael Wilson one hundred plus receiving ur and it

898
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: paid out exactly the same, like thirty to one. So

899
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: Wilson out one hundred plus yards and then you just

900
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: removed Puka from the equation at that point.

901
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: So no, but but but Stafford. I thought Stafford led

902
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: a game. Oh he did. Ohby didn't got that last

903
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: that last drive they had sixteen yards to go right

904
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: and if Jacobin gets that, you're touchdown, it's a ten.

905
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: It's sixteen yards. He got you finished with it like

906
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: six more than Stafford.

907
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was extremely correlated. He took Jacoby

908
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: Burssett all over. It was whatever it was, you know,

909
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: two seventy or two fifty. But it again, it paid

910
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: out exactly the same because core was the whole point

911
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: was based on was core. Core was like what made

912
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: it a lotto pick? Like if I used Kiren, obviously

913
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: I had Kiren for the most rushing yards, you know,

914
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: it would have paid out three to one or something,

915
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, ridiculous. But yeah, somebody like tweaked it to

916
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: where it was just Michael Wilson one hundred plus receiving

917
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: yards and you don't even have to worry about Pooka

918
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: in that situation, right, which I thought was genius.

919
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I was. I was about to take just

920
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: like all because I saw I think his receiving because

921
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: reception prop was like five and a half.

922
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: I was like, that's ridiculous.

923
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: It's like if they're if everyone's like they didn't even

924
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: have a week in that game, like it was.

925
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: It was nuts.

926
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: But even in yeah, no no Harrison, so.

927
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: Jones is gone, like just decimated at every position really

928
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: but tight end.

929
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben had probably not be gonna come back this year.

930
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: The Marcado's still out, which is another passing option, but

931
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: and Connor and Connor so yeah, it's just it's yeah,

932
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: the only good thing is when Kyler's been out because

933
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: clearly he didn't know how to get the ball to receivers.

934
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: Like he's like, because it's every time like Brissette comes in,

935
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson with a cardio kaing Ressette comes in, Harrison

936
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: goes down, Michael Wilson's the number one receiver in fantasy.

937
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: Harrison comes back, he gets like eight catches in the

938
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: first half. So it's like, clearly not a it's not

939
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: a scheme. It's like they're probably scheming just every time

940
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: they don't like first read Trey McBride, it's like Kyler

941
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: can't do anything, so they just have to.

942
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: Squaring touchdowns.

943
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because because because you've got in the red zone,

944
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: it's it's like, okay, we could just take it. We

945
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: could take away guys in the red zone, like but

946
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: to the twenties, you're gonna it's gonna you know, you

947
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: can't take away everybody. But yeah, it's clear of what's

948
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: going on with the Cardinals and the issue has been Kyler.

949
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's tough. But either way, Michael Wilson

950
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: low on him just because this Houston matchup is, you know,

951
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: nothing to sniff at. They've been a top team against

952
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: wide receivers all year, top defense against the past, and

953
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: uh Wilson top twelve this week. Not buying it, especially

954
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: because you know got the touchdown last week. He was

955
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: he was due. I mean, I think I had him

956
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 2: like three expected just with Jacoby alone. But you're not

957
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: really expecting touchdowns against this Houston secondary. I believe they've

958
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: given up, not like I think it's let's see, I

959
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: think it was six yeah, six to receivers all year

960
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: and fourida running backs or for a tight end. So

961
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: it's just not not a ton to the wide receiver

962
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: position for Houston. And then another guy I'm along, Chris Godwin.

963
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: He's a wide receiver, twenty five in ECR. He's on

964
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: the injury report again. Short week bucks are shown that

965
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: they can. Guys can disappear from that offense because they

966
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: have a lot of mouse to feed. And that's even

967
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: if you know Evans or McMillan, whoever it is, don't

968
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: come back this week because it is a short week.

969
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: They've been they've resumed practicing, but I'm not sure what

970
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: the plan is for those guys. But either way, Godwin,

971
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: I mean, coming off a was it five catch game,

972
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: fifty five yards. That's not something I'm going to be

973
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: excited about. To block him in is the top thirty option.

974
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: I would rather, especially earlier in the week. I would

975
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: rather just kind of sit it out and you know,

976
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: go go to somebody else. There's a lot of options

977
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: a wide receivers that I think would rank you know,

978
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 2: I would have Godwin, you know, pushing top forty. Still,

979
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 2: he had seventy eight yards, but it was only five

980
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 2: targets the week before against Arizona piss poor defense, and

981
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: then five target five catches for fifty five which is okay,

982
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: nothing nothing as much against against the Saints. And now

983
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: he's heard again and it's a short week. So and

984
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: Tesz didn't get like any targets, and like they could

985
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: easily just kind of shift this offense around, you know,

986
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: to make other guys the number one option, and they

987
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: got all those running backs. So yeah, I think the

988
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: writings on the wolf for Godwin here, don't want to

989
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 2: use him on Thursday night against Atlanta. Okay, wide receiver

990
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: prop here's the prop more Jefferson receiving yards, Justin or

991
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: Van and I'm gonna make Justin Okay a thirty six

992
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: thirty five and a half yard favorite.

993
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: So if he doesn't even get thirty five and a

994
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: half yards, yeah, I mean I have Van way down there.

995
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm taking the I'm taking the yards because I have

996
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: it culture like thirty one.

997
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think.

998
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: Had inflate it just I mean it's at Dallas. It's

999
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: at Dallas to be fair, but yeah, I'll take the

1000
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: points or in this case yards.

1001
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's justin. Jefferson has just been like I don't know,

1002
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't know rank like twenty something. I think, you know,

1003
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: what about your nineteenth Yeah, he's I mean he could

1004
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: go bounce back. But I mean even in a game

1005
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: that they that McCarthy did well, he had two catches

1006
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: for eleven.

1007
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: That's that's not good. Yeah, that's not good, not good

1008
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: at all.

1009
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: Good. Yeah, like Van, Jefferson has been a better receiver

1010
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: in the past like three.

1011
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: Games, which which is not good. Unreal.

1012
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he hasn't done anything tight end tough UF.

1013
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so Trayvick Bright number one, but the gap

1014
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: between one and two is much much tighter this week

1015
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: with the tougher matchup against the Texans. Uh yeah. George

1016
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: Kittle number two, Wow, what is going on here? Jake Ferguson, Hunter,

1017
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: Henry and Rock Bowers?

1018
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, oh that's interesting. So so you have Bowers

1019
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 2: outside the top two. Oh because Kittle. Okay, but you said.

1020
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: Kittle number two, right, Yeah, I have Kittle too, Yeah.

1021
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 2: McBride, Bowers, Kittle, Warren Ferguson. Yeah, it's and I don't

1022
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: even know who the quarterback is going to be for.

1023
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: The for Warren.

1024
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, tough matchups. I'm looking at the matchups.

1025
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, yeah.

1026
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Warren very heavily in the

1027
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: prop section. So okay, don't don't play your hand too

1028
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: much here, Okay, Okay, I'm doing it. You don't want

1029
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: to tip me off too much.

1030
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: Who's who are you high on? Who are you high?

1031
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm high. Yeah, there's a ton of tight ends I'm

1032
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: high on this week that are like widely available. But

1033
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about Kolbe Parkinson here against the Lions

1034
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: just because he's been a really you know, sneaky touchdown

1035
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: bet the past few weeks, especially after you know, Tyler

1036
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: Higbee went down, but McVeigh has gone even further down.

1037
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: This three tight end hole last week it was just

1038
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: out of control. They had forty two plays with three

1039
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: tight ends, which apparently was like the most in the

1040
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: last twenty years. So, you know, Parkinson had a season

1041
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: high seventy one percent routes run rate last week and

1042
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: he's been commanding you know, like a twenty two to

1043
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: twenty four percent target rate pretty much all season. So

1044
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 1: if he's getting that much playing time, he is now

1045
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: in the tight end one discussion. And this is you know,

1046
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: a tougher matchup against the Lions. They like the man up,

1047
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: they're pretty good against tight ends. But you know Aj

1048
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: Barner had that massive, you know, ten catch game against them.

1049
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna be worried about you know, Puka and Davante

1050
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: and the running game. Anyway, So Parkinson and can still

1051
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: you have a good game here, and this is a

1052
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: game where the Rams will probably be throwing at a

1053
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: much higher rate. So yeah, Parkinson, I think he has

1054
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: a ton of upside and he's my tight end thirteen.

1055
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: I think again, we talked about Theo Johnson Harold fan

1056
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: of Junior. If those guys are available, you have to

1057
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: add them and play them. But Parkinson's right in that mix.

1058
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: This week for me and potentially going forward.

1059
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm a big fan of Parkinson. I

1060
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: mean he's just a I don't think the three tight

1061
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 2: end stuff even matters for him because he's the early

1062
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: down tight end, like regardless of it's really an issue

1063
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: for Ferguson because he's the third down he's like a

1064
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: third down guy that he comes in more when they

1065
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: play one two, I believe, instead of like one to three.

1066
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: So it's it's just like a he has like a

1067
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: weird mix of personnel groupings where he comes in that

1068
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: can kind of get it depends on the game.

1069
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they only throw it to thirty yards downfield too,

1070
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be just an extreme wide rangeboutcomes guy,

1071
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: whereas Parkinson's getting just more normal targets.

1072
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's there. They'realian like like, I don't I actually

1073
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: don't think they would run as much one three this

1074
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: week because like last week it was like forty two plays,

1075
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: not forty two passes like it was forty two because

1076
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: the yeah, the games in the passing game, they've kind

1077
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: of dialed it back a little bit because they've had

1078
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: like the receivers healthy. So yeah, I would think it's

1079
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 2: Ferguson and Alan that get hurt going forward with like

1080
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: Parkinson is gonna stay at his you know, normal you know,

1081
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: top Italian one route rates. Yeah, I like him this

1082
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: week as well. I am high on Heronde Gadsden. I mean,

1083
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: he's I just think he's falling down too far in

1084
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: the ranks. I you know, last week was a tough matchup.

1085
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: This week is a tough matchup too, But he's tight

1086
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: end eighteen in ECR. I just don't think that he

1087
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: should be that low. You know, Herbert is probably gonna

1088
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 2: not have his as terrible of a game every week

1089
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 2: as as this one. I mean, this was just this

1090
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: is I almost we almost lost the under, oh like

1091
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: I was. I was, I was like in the under,

1092
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: I was like, this is surely going to cash in

1093
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: midway through the third quarter and then just everything was

1094
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: a field goal, field goal, field goal, field goal, and

1095
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: then Hurts just bailed it out. But yeah, I just

1096
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: think that since too. I still think he's a top

1097
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: fifteen tight end in in in this matchup against the Chiefs,

1098
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 2: you know, it's he's still a guy that you know,

1099
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: too much talent really to fade, I think to this level,

1100
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: especially with just a lot of uncertainty at the tight

1101
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: end position. I mean even got like we don't really

1102
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen with the quarterback for Warren. And

1103
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: you know, Mason Taylor is out of the picture now again,

1104
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: which I mean he was never really in it, but

1105
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: he did get like five catches last week. And we'll

1106
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: see what happens with Barner. Maybe he's an option with

1107
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: if a Royal missus. But yeah, I just think gad

1108
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: since falling too far. The talent's too high, and like,

1109
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: no one on the Chargers really did anything in that game,

1110
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: so you know, I mean except for come on Eve

1111
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: at all? Who who is a guy? Like you know,

1112
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 2: everyone thought he was just going to be the backup

1113
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: he ended up kind of starting, but no one did

1114
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: anything in this game. I'm kind of giving Gaston a

1115
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: little bit of a pass too, So just I just

1116
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: I still think he should be in that like streamer

1117
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: startable discussion this week. I don't think he should be

1118
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: down at Titan eighteen. Who are you law?

1119
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm low on Tyler Warren. First of all, let

1120
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: me just say it's been a roller coaster trying to

1121
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: project him these last twenty four hours, So you know,

1122
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: take this with a grain of salt, because you know

1123
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: Dane Jones, we know he's done for the season. His

1124
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: backup's Riley Leonard, which I would consider a huge downgrade.

1125
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: He's more of a rushing quarterback. He only scrambled once

1126
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: this game. But I think if they have a week

1127
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: to prepare for him, they would be very run heavy

1128
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: and he would be scrambling a lot more. So just

1129
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: the overall passing volume would be down, and they just

1130
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: have a ton of weapons there he could spread it

1131
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: around to you know, Pittman Downs Pierce. So now they

1132
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: signed Philip Rivers, like Philip Rivers might be starting. I

1133
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 1: think I'm in a bump Tyler Warren up because we've

1134
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: seen Rivers fuel a Hall of Fame career and Antonio

1135
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: Gates at tight end, so he should know that he

1136
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: has one of the best tight ends in the game

1137
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: in Tyler Warren. So I think, you know, my rank

1138
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: for Warren's probably gonna settle in like the tight end

1139
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: twelve range, where you know, if you've been banking on

1140
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: them all season, that's not good heading into the Fantasy playoffs.

1141
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how the shapes up but

1142
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: he's not going to be in my top five this

1143
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: week most likely. So yes, he's been really tricky to project.

1144
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: I think if you if you have him, you probably

1145
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: still have to roll him out there, but definitely need

1146
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: to kind of downgrade him this week especially this is

1147
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: a you know, a tougher matchup. They're at Seattle, this

1148
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: is a very good defense, so it's gonna be tougher

1149
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: sledding for everybody. But you know, I haven't seen Philip

1150
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: Rivers play in six years, so who the hell knows

1151
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: what this is going to look like? Very you know,

1152
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: just volatile situation, and you know Warren unfortunately is going

1153
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: to be impacted by it.

1154
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure I bump him up with Filber.

1155
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: It's the fact that they're playing filt Rivers, I mean,

1156
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: of all the like, Yeah.

1157
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: It would be Brett. Like if if Leonard's out and

1158
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: they kind of want to hold out on Rivers, it

1159
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: would be Brett Rippin. Right, who's the last guy standing there?

1160
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: If Rivers doesn't start this? It's Brett Reppin, right, is it?

1161
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. They might sign somebody like Tim Boyle.

1162
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: Where's Tim Boyle at it?

1163
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: Well? Didn't I have, didn't I have a side bet

1164
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: with you like Brett Reppan will have at least one

1165
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: more career start. Probably, guys, we were I don't think

1166
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 1: we made an official bet, but I think we made

1167
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: some side bets on like Repin and Tim Boyle career starts.

1168
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, we don't even know who's starting this week.

1169
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: But either way, it's gonna be a downgrade for me.

1170
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: Where's Jeff Driscoll when you need him?

1171
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: Man like Briley Leonard Briley my comfort regular Leonard is

1172
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: Jeff dress Skull, so they already got him.

1173
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they would probably just I mean either way,

1174
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: they're probably preparing to go super run heavy. Yeah, maybe

1175
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: they they have. They could even activate their fourth running

1176
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: They have Giddings usually sitting it out on the bench,

1177
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: so that yeah, I'm just it's it's not a great situation.

1178
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna downgrade Warren outside the top five now

1179
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: that I look at it, because it's yeah, it's whoever

1180
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: it is just doesn't give me much of Well, Warren.

1181
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: Warren's their emergency quarterback, so why might feel like a

1182
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, So maybe I'll have to bump him up right,

1183
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: like he's.

1184
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: Not bumping up both Kettle or Bowers. No no, no, no, no,

1185
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: no no. I I can't get higher. Yeah, no, that's

1186
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: passed out.

1187
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: That's pretty high. It would take a lot for me

1188
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: to get there. But he has some unique paths I guess,

1189
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: other than you know, catching passes, because he does get

1190
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: some rush attempts. So we'll see, we'll see where my

1191
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: rank ends up at the end of the week. But

1192
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: I feel like he's just the more interesting projection to

1193
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: open the week.

1194
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why he's he stays high because

1195
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: he does he has like a share of their design carries,

1196
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: which I think will.

1197
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: Grow up this week.

1198
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: All right, I'm long on another rookie coast in Loveland.

1199
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: He's the tight end twelve in ECR. Yeah, so if

1200
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: romadoonsday's out, I think people are going to be very

1201
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: tempted to go with Loveland again. And he I think

1202
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: he cracked my top fifteen last week. Maybe he was sixteen.

1203
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, he was used there.

1204
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: He was close.

1205
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: But this week, going up against Cleveland, it is a

1206
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: game that there's there's a lot of different ways that

1207
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: could go game script wise. I mean, your seven point

1208
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: favorite you might not have to throw that much. They

1209
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: do play a lot of man coverage. It's not great

1210
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: for tight ends. Lovel is not the worst against man coverage,

1211
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: but still not great. But the real issue is that

1212
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: just because you know Loveland has been somewhat productive doesn't

1213
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: mean he's really like a number one type tight end.

1214
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: He ran rout on twenty three of the forty pass

1215
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: plays the forty dropbacks last week, and co Cuvett ran

1216
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: around in twenty four, so.

1217
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: You know, no.

1218
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: Twenty four to twenty two was the routes actually, excuse me?

1219
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: And then Comet was actually in there from more overall

1220
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: passing plays he happened to block on five, Loveland only

1221
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: had a block once, but that's not good. That means

1222
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: even with Comet being like the number one pass blocker,

1223
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: Loveland still didn't outrun him in routes and Derm Smythe

1224
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: has been mixing in for you know, he got nine

1225
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: nine routes as well last week. So I just I

1226
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: think it is too much too much variant here to

1227
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: project him as a top twelve option. Even if Roma

1228
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: Dunesday is out, I think I would still be looking

1229
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: at the wide receivers against this against these man coverage

1230
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: looks versus Loveland, who I think is like he's kind

1231
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: of he's kind of in that same group as like,

1232
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: you know, a Gadston all those guys would be so like,

1233
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, I don't get how we

1234
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: get We're getting like six six seven spots higher for

1235
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 2: him than than than Gadsden and all these guys. So, yeah,

1236
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: Loveland is a guy low on at tight end this week.

1237
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, prop Tyler Warnon.

1238
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's yeah, Tyler Warren receiving yards again. I'm not

1239
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: low on the talent at all. I'm low on the situation.

1240
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: And we haven't even talked about like Philip Rivers projections.

1241
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean, what the hell are we even doing there?

1242
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: But they are what like thirteen point underdog, so you know,

1243
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: they'll probably have to throw, they'll probably try to be

1244
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: run heavy, but ultimately throw a ton. This is just

1245
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: a really tough projection to make. That's why I want

1246
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: us to like talk about it and lock it in

1247
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: early in the week. But I'm gonna set I'm gonna

1248
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: set it at oh boy, forty two and a half.

1249
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: Also another thing, throwing a wrinkle in this Alex Pearce

1250
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: got hurt on the last drive. He's a yarded gobbler

1251
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: for this team. If he's if he's not in it,

1252
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: that does change things a lot too. Yeah, I'm gonna

1253
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: go over so I think, what would happen if it's

1254
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: like a worst case scenario and it's Rivers. I mean,

1255
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: I guess it's the worst case scenario regardless of your

1256
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: Colts fan. But he's been over this in ten or fourteen,

1257
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: He's had forty four or more receiving yards. I'm gonna say,

1258
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: what would happen if if regardless of the quarterback, is

1259
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 2: he's going to be the top target in the passing

1260
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: game this week? Because I think he's just the easiest

1261
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 2: guy to get the ball to, like you had and

1262
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: you had Michael Pittman kind of erupt or you know

1263
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: whatever his version of an eruption is, like you know,

1264
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 2: nine for seventy nine and you have Pierce questionable. So

1265
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: I think, you know, if you're a quarterback, like whether

1266
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: it's Rivers, you know, we know he can get the

1267
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: ball out of the tight end. But even if you're

1268
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: Roby Leonard, you know some of those like short to

1269
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: intermediate throws to a guy like Warren over the middle,

1270
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: I think is easier than trying to go outside with

1271
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: those Seahawks corners are really you know, they play, They're

1272
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: good on the outside. They tend to give up more completions,

1273
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: you know, to backs and tight ends because of their

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Speaker 2: defensive scheme. So I think Warren is going to be

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Speaker 2: like that number one target. He'll probably get some tight

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01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: end screens, things like just stuff to get at the

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01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: ball in his hands. So I think he can get

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Speaker 2: there in a number of ways. So yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go over. It's more of a more of

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Speaker 2: a gut field. But I just think that's with the

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01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 2: weeks of prepare, that's probably how they tackle the game plan.

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01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: So if they can get to like one hundred fifty

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01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: passing yards, I do think Warren gets to get to

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Speaker 2: like a third of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a bad projection. I could see the

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Speaker 1: same thing when Leonard did come in again. For some reason,

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01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: he wasn't scrambling his own. Jags play with a ton

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01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: of own I think that's yeah, he was spamming. It

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01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: was Pittman in this game. But again that's just they

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01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: threw him in the fire. But like you said, if

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01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: they have the week to prepare, you know, it's a

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01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: little bit different when you have a week to prepare

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: versus the guy just getting thrown in there. So I

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01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: would expect more scrambles and then yeah, more scheme passes

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01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: to Warren specifically, but again we don't even know what

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01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: who's going to be under center.

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Speaker 2: Still, yeah, it's more of a gut feel on Warren.

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01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: But it's just like the writing's on the wall with

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 2: you know, Pittman going off. It's Pierce being attle potentially

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01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: banged up, I think, and Warren's been quiet. That's probably

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01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: what you do from like you you want to go

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01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: to the guy, like the guy that gives you like

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01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: that the last the least amount of risk with the

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01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 2: ball in the air, and I think that's war and

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01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: you know you throw him short eight out passes and

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01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: pick up yac.

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