Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
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Speaker 1: back from nowhere. Air date January twenty, two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: Big Ideas. In this episode, Lucas and Peyton try and
Speaker 1: redefine their friendship after Lucas chooses to be with her
Speaker 1: best friend. It was a firm choice, guys. The beginning
Speaker 1: of the episode was so rough when he basically just
Speaker 1: lays out like she's got too much baggage. Wow, which
Speaker 1: is ironic. I don't know, because Brooks clearly got a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on to I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it's maybe not as obvious, but well, that's it.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that, because I think we've addressed the
Speaker 1: fact that, like Brooke and Peyton are friends because they
Speaker 1: have similar baggage absolutee parents. You know, they both are
Speaker 1: trying to prove themselves in different ways. Um, but Brooke
Speaker 1: is on the outside like fun and bubbily and is
Speaker 1: hiding her baggage, whereas Peyton's like, I'm going to wear
Speaker 1: this like a cloak, a velvet cloak of doom. Well,
Speaker 1: Brooke has there's such a veneer to her. I think
Speaker 1: because everything that she's been and this was sort of
Speaker 1: the way I had to think about it anyway, was
Speaker 1: that the way she'd been raised was to appear great,
Speaker 1: Like everything looks perfect. We pretend our families perfect, even
Speaker 1: though the parents are fighting and obviously eventually get divorced
Speaker 1: and you know, all these things. And so Brooke is
Speaker 1: like all her validation comes from the outside, you know,
Speaker 1: being the captain of the cheer squad, being a person
Speaker 1: who's it called popular, you know whatever, she is popular, Honey,
Speaker 1: you should own that. Okay, that's really bad. But Peyton
Speaker 1: has outlets that are hers like you. You played a
Speaker 1: character who was an artist who was really into music,
Speaker 1: like Peyton had an identity in a way that like,
Speaker 1: at least from the outside. You know, when I think
Speaker 1: about how it felt to play these girls. Then it
Speaker 1: felt like Brooke just didn't you know, Brooke was always
Speaker 1: trying to prove herself and Peyton had like this world
Speaker 1: that was hers that was so cool. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Oh the angst um like the done correctly in this
Speaker 1: is the is the Nathan Haley arc in this You
Speaker 1: know you guys, wake up, You're freaking adorable. Just kissing
Speaker 1: with morning breath. We we did have fun with the
Speaker 1: morning breath, No regard, no reserve. But all the TV
Speaker 1: shows do that because you're on set and when you
Speaker 1: have to kiss, everyone's polite. So you eat an altoid
Speaker 1: and when you see it, you're like, but if they
Speaker 1: just woke up, they would smell like demons. On no
Speaker 1: show does anyone ever get up and brush their teeth
Speaker 1: before they kissed the person they're in bedroom? Right? Do
Speaker 1: you remember like waking up in the morning when you
Speaker 1: first started like sleeping over at somebody's house. I would
Speaker 1: wake up like an hour early and go put on
Speaker 1: mascara and brush my teeth and like sort things out
Speaker 1: so that it seemed like I was waking up tidy
Speaker 1: Timmy of you very tammy girl. I'm Southern that is
Speaker 1: some Virginia business, some like Southern Lady Eleganza. You just
Speaker 1: set your alarm, get it done, I did, Joy, what
Speaker 1: was your experience shooting that stuff? I'm trying to remember that.
Speaker 1: I think that was one of those where I looked
Speaker 1: at it and I was like, I don't really have
Speaker 1: a memory of being there. Um. I mean the thing
Speaker 1: I remember a little bit of being in Karen's cafe
Speaker 1: and stuff, but that stuff with them James in my room,
Speaker 1: I just don't remember a lot of that, the set
Speaker 1: of Hayley's room. Um, But I don't know. It's funny
Speaker 1: watching back and feeling like it's such they have such
Speaker 1: a mini adult. She's just such a mini adult. I
Speaker 1: can't get over it now. She's so mature with her
Speaker 1: mature kisses and her mature like way of handling situations
Speaker 1: and everything. I didn't head butt him like I did.
Speaker 1: You just you know you kissed him so softly. Joy,
Speaker 1: I'm still jealous. Those are my soap opera kisses. That's
Speaker 1: my that was my soap experience coming in. Do they
Speaker 1: give you a kissing class in soap opera school? Like?
Speaker 1: Is there? Um? I didn't have like a crash course No.
Speaker 1: My crash course was that I was seventeen and there
Speaker 1: was a guy who came in to play my love interest,
Speaker 1: and uh, he was just a lot older than me,
Speaker 1: and I just kind of learned fast or learned he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he really, Yeah, he taught me. Had a kiss really
Speaker 1: and not so many. I mean, you know it's not
Speaker 1: like listen to do this, but but there is this
Speaker 1: sort of you do learn a little bit about where
Speaker 1: to put your chin, where the girl's chin goes, the
Speaker 1: guy chin. You know, you sort of like gauge, start
Speaker 1: gauging where the camera is and what looks attractive. If
Speaker 1: you shove your faces up against each other, everybody gets
Speaker 1: a double chin. Um. You know, you want to try
Speaker 1: and make it look like it's like a French about
Speaker 1: the tongue, so you don't want to see a lot
Speaker 1: of time unless it's that kind of a show, which
Speaker 1: ours wasn't really. So yeah, you just like make all
Speaker 1: the same motions as a French kiss, but without the tongue,
Speaker 1: which is also polite because you know, you don't want
Speaker 1: to just shove your tongue down somebody's throat. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're going to kiss with tongue it's usually talked
Speaker 1: about beforehand with the director. Everything sort of sort of
Speaker 1: sorted out. I had more than one surprise, did you guys?
Speaker 1: They they over the years there were people Brooke Davis
Speaker 1: had to kiss, and oh there were some you already know.
Speaker 1: Somebody bit me. I will never tell you who. The
Speaker 1: internet was speculating about it, and I'm not you guys,
Speaker 1: they don't, they don't know. But oh man, I actually
Speaker 1: saw some really hilarious guesses, which made me feel bad
Speaker 1: for some people. But they guys, that guy is really horrible,
Speaker 1: like that how Sam? No, But yeah, it's it is.
Speaker 1: It is a shock when someone just does that. I
Speaker 1: love though, you talking about the technicality of this joy
Speaker 1: because there is a question that as an actor you
Speaker 1: get so often, which is like, well, what was this
Speaker 1: like or this scene? And it's like, actually, the stuff
Speaker 1: we make look really romantic and sexy on camera is
Speaker 1: the least sexy because it's so technical. You gotta like
Speaker 1: get your face and then they're like, okay, turn your
Speaker 1: head one inch and you're like this way, they're like
Speaker 1: the other way, okay, Okay, raise your chain, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that's exactly where we need you to to kiss and
Speaker 1: it's so choreographed and then it has to look natural,
Speaker 1: but it's the most unnatural thing, so awkward. Oh god,
Speaker 1: it's so awkward, you guys. That's why I liked working
Speaker 1: with my husband because they were like make out and
Speaker 1: it was like, I don't have to follow anyway. It
Speaker 1: a lot. This is going to be great, I highly Um. Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of James, this was great stuff for Nathan in
Speaker 1: this episode, he finally let Dan have it. I've been
Speaker 1: waiting for debt. Yeah. The whole episode kicks off with
Speaker 1: him trying to love bomb her, which is yeah, um,
Speaker 1: the flowers I got us the reservation. Would you explain
Speaker 1: love bombing for anyone that doesn't know really what that is?
Speaker 1: So certain personality types that are prone to bad behavior
Speaker 1: become very skilled at countering that bad behavior with over
Speaker 1: the top affection. So they could tell you the night
Speaker 1: before that like you're a horror and I hate your face,
Speaker 1: and then the next day they show up with a
Speaker 1: hotel reservation and flowers, and you are expected to understand
Speaker 1: that they were going through something and they really do
Speaker 1: love you. And so love bombing is like a big
Speaker 1: red flag. We've talked about red flags here before. It's
Speaker 1: a narcissistic tool too, because they that's how they get
Speaker 1: you to they devalue you. And friends can do it,
Speaker 1: lovers can, workers can get parents. Yeah, And so they
Speaker 1: build you up with the love bombing, so they make
Speaker 1: you feel this euphoric like, oh my god, everything's amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm amazing. They love me, they see me in this
Speaker 1: beautiful way, it's all going to be great. And then
Speaker 1: they put you on the pedestal and then they can
Speaker 1: rip the pedestal out from underneath you. You come crashing down.
Speaker 1: You feel horrible about yourself, you feel confused and lost
Speaker 1: in everything in the relationship. And then they come back
Speaker 1: with the flowers in the hotel all again and build
Speaker 1: you back up. And it's a really sick cycle. And
Speaker 1: it's always an excuse of I'm so sorry. It's my damage,
Speaker 1: or it's my emotions, or it's because of what happened
Speaker 1: to me with my mom, like whatever the excuse. You
Speaker 1: could also just be I forgive you, I forgive you
Speaker 1: for being a mess for so they're punishing you for
Speaker 1: being normal, and you know, and they could also it
Speaker 1: doesn't always have to be i'm sorry. It can be
Speaker 1: like I forgive you. Come on, let's make it better.
Speaker 1: You overreacted to what I said or what I did.
Speaker 1: It's it's fun watching deb in this moment because I
Speaker 1: have to imagine the love bombing was sexy at the
Speaker 1: beginning of their relationship. It's been a constant thing where
Speaker 1: they have this kind of you know, she's not in
Speaker 1: town all the time, so the hellos and the goodbyes
Speaker 1: are probably like fun and blurty. Um. But in this
Speaker 1: episode where she puts the boundary up and does not
Speaker 1: accept the love bombing and then tells him you need
Speaker 1: to go to therapy, like that's a big move in
Speaker 1: a relationship. She's not putting up with it. I will say,
Speaker 1: you know, we're all speaking about this topic from experience,
Speaker 1: and I think you know, I know, for me, at
Speaker 1: least in my younger years, being in you know, relationships
Speaker 1: that had that kind of you know, volatility that bordered
Speaker 1: on abusive behavior, I didn't know what was happening. You know.
Speaker 1: We've all like, like, we trade books and we talk
Speaker 1: about narcissism, and we're like, have you listened to this podcast.
Speaker 1: We've got resources now, and at that time we really didn't,
Speaker 1: and it was hard to understand the toxicity of that
Speaker 1: kind of behavior, of those types of courtships. And I
Speaker 1: think watching this now, I'm like, oh man, depth set
Speaker 1: such a good example. And this was in two thousand three.
Speaker 1: You guys like, she's so calm, yeah, putting her foot down,
Speaker 1: talking about therapy. Like now, we're talking about mental health
Speaker 1: all the time. But for a woman to stand up
Speaker 1: to a man who who is volatile and scary like
Speaker 1: Dan Scott was and say you're going to go to
Speaker 1: therapy or you're not going to see your kid like now,
Speaker 1: as a person who goes to therapy, I'm like, yeah, girl,
Speaker 1: I'll get it. Yeah. And she wasn't shouting. It was
Speaker 1: like totally just time setting my boundary. Here's what's going on,
Speaker 1: so super healthy. Um, can we move on to this
Speaker 1: arc of Luke this bad I keep calling him bad,
Speaker 1: bad Lucas now like bad Sandy. He's like he's he's
Speaker 1: really exploring this um this side of being a part
Speaker 1: of a community that is not the one that he's
Speaker 1: used to, kind of being suddenly fitting in with all
Speaker 1: the people that he was an outcast from for so long,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of having a weird effect on him. Well,
Speaker 1: it's weird. So when people talk about like the popular crowd, right,
Speaker 1: everything that we knew from John Hughs movies was bad behavior.
Speaker 1: You know, like we watched like Pretty and Pink and
Speaker 1: Blaine and all the rich kids. They're all just like awful.
Speaker 1: And then you watch sixteen Candles and all the rich kids,
Speaker 1: they're just like awful. And so our generation specifically kind
Speaker 1: of grew up watching those movies where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what popular people are like. And so now that
Speaker 1: Lucas has been accepted into this world, you know, like
Speaker 1: having a girl over into your room and rolling around
Speaker 1: and buying condoms out of the grocery store at least,
Speaker 1: go to a gas station where no one is, to
Speaker 1: the local organic co op to buy Title Creek, my
Speaker 1: classiest place. I need my organic coconut oil and my
Speaker 1: little chicks, and my thing is turning. So as soon
Speaker 1: as we were in that grocery store, I pulled my
Speaker 1: sweatshirt up around my face because I was like, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I know what the scene is because I was so
Speaker 1: embarrassed to then and I realized that as an adult
Speaker 1: human is silly that I'm still more. I'm still mortified
Speaker 1: by the high school that fifying. I don't know, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, I don't need people to see me buying
Speaker 1: condoms now, you know, It's just not like the thing
Speaker 1: I want anyone else to where they always locked up
Speaker 1: behind the plastic case, but like where the guy has
Speaker 1: to go get them. You're when you're at the checkout,
Speaker 1: let people steal those by the just just let out,
Speaker 1: just give them away for free. Let's just give them away.
Speaker 1: It was so uncomfortable to do the scene and like
Speaker 1: the second hand embarrassment that I had having to do it,
Speaker 1: And now that I feel, it's like I remember exactly
Speaker 1: how I felt, and I'm just still mortified. And I think,
Speaker 1: like we we've hit this weird point with Brooke where
Speaker 1: like we were saying, there's such good scenes and then
Speaker 1: the writers always make me her and to see me
Speaker 1: with like a really gross one liner, you're just like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: come on, Like no girl is going to say that,
Speaker 1: and why do we keep having to do it? And
Speaker 1: there's like four of them in this episode, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take the polaroid like cool, let's joke
Speaker 1: about kids doing porn, and like we didn't like they
Speaker 1: were just talking about feelings and like, baby, you're good.
Speaker 1: I'm good. You're my best friend. You're my best friend.
Speaker 1: Let's take naked pictures, you know, like, oh, come on.
Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't know, man, you guys said
Speaker 1: something that I loved where because clearly I was dying.
Speaker 1: I was on the inside of my shirt and you
Speaker 1: were like, well, at least we were promoting safe sex.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's yep, there's a silver
Speaker 1: lining in my show. Peyton was feeling a lot of
Speaker 1: feelings in this episode. How how okay a how realistic
Speaker 1: is it that she would be? I mean, you talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about this in a previous podcast that
Speaker 1: we had about your high school best friend they wanted
Speaker 1: to trade or something they wanted to trade, So apparently
Speaker 1: it's not that crazy. But does this what did this
Speaker 1: scenario watching this back? Does this feel realistic to you? Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you so. I have sense memory of filming
Speaker 1: this episode because I personally was in a very weird
Speaker 1: space filming this episode. I had come onto the show, uh,
Speaker 1: shot the pilot, got engaged after we shot the pilot,
Speaker 1: and so when we came back to start in the show,
Speaker 1: I was engaged, and while we were shooting this episode,
Speaker 1: I had broken that off and was living by myself
Speaker 1: in the apartment across the street from Karen's cafe and
Speaker 1: like doing the exact same thing Peyton was doing. Payton
Speaker 1: so needy for Hayley's attention in this episode, it's like,
Speaker 1: please hang out with me, Please hang out me, Please
Speaker 1: hang out with me. I would go and fill my
Speaker 1: fridge with so much alcohol and food so that the
Speaker 1: crew would come over after work because I was just like,
Speaker 1: so I'm so broken right now, Like, someone, please hang
Speaker 1: out with me. Everything's weird. This job is very different
Speaker 1: than what I thought it was going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: like I was a miss um and so that's what
Speaker 1: I'm seeing in this episode. What I'm also seeing is
Speaker 1: that this was the episode where I p eight because
Speaker 1: I wanted to be What is a p A For
Speaker 1: anybody that does so. A p A is a production
Speaker 1: assistant and they work the A D Department. The Assistant
Speaker 1: director department is kind of the nervous system of the show,
Speaker 1: and so they are the ones that transmit information to
Speaker 1: all the different departments all day long, and it's a
Speaker 1: very high stressed department. Um, yeah, you easily can get
Speaker 1: a chip on your shoulder while you're working in that
Speaker 1: department because basically you're managing everybody else's bull all day long,
Speaker 1: and and the A D Department runs all of the scheduling.
Speaker 1: They're the people who set the call times. You know,
Speaker 1: when it's like you're gonna get picked up at five
Speaker 1: twelve am, that's because that's calculated because it's exactly eighteen
Speaker 1: minutes from the person's house to the set, and then
Speaker 1: they're going to get in hair and makeup, and then
Speaker 1: they have this song and it's it's so many moving
Speaker 1: parts and they're timed to the minute. So those are
Speaker 1: the people that are always trying to make sure we're
Speaker 1: staying on schedule. And and the p a s. You know,
Speaker 1: this team of production assistance. They are all the people
Speaker 1: on sets with walkie talkies and earpieces and they're helping
Speaker 1: make sure everyone is where they need to be there
Speaker 1: locking up traffic, they're they're giving cues to the background,
Speaker 1: they're they're they're really like, you know, running all the
Speaker 1: strings of the puppet that is the show. And I
Speaker 1: remember that day because we were doing that scenic title
Speaker 1: creek and I just wanted to die. And we came
Speaker 1: outside and I lost it Hill because you were locking
Speaker 1: up trafficking the parking lot. And the first time I
Speaker 1: walked out of Title Creek with Chad, we started doing
Speaker 1: the scene and I locked eyes with you, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this, but I just started
Speaker 1: laughing and I was like, I'm sorry, we gotta start over.
Speaker 1: I can't. I just because it was it was art
Speaker 1: imitating life. Because the reason I p ad was that
Speaker 1: I'd asked the A D Department if my brother could
Speaker 1: come down and be a p A. He was at
Speaker 1: school in New York. He was miserable. I was alone.
Speaker 1: I was just like, I just need a blankie. I
Speaker 1: need like a cozy thing. My little brother will work.
Speaker 1: And they were like, we're not going to hire him,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I swear to you. The
Speaker 1: Burton work ethic is like, you know, being like Burton's
Speaker 1: out work. Anybody please hire my brother. I'll work for
Speaker 1: free as a p A if you'll just give him
Speaker 1: a chance. So I had like bartered this deal with
Speaker 1: the A D Department. So I'm locking up traffic and
Speaker 1: here I see Lucas and Brook. You know, Sophie and
Speaker 1: Chad like working and having fun and like doing all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and I'm on the outside with a walkie
Speaker 1: talkie getting screamed at by this woman that's like, get
Speaker 1: out of my neighborhood, you know, Like it was I
Speaker 1: very much felt like an outsider. Um. I I was
Speaker 1: struggling so hard, and yeah, so me being like joy Haley,
Speaker 1: will you hang out with me? Please? Somebody please just
Speaker 1: with me? It really came through. I Mean, that's one
Speaker 1: of the things I love about acting is that we
Speaker 1: can use our emotions. You can use whatever you're going through. Um.
Speaker 1: So that's good that you had that outlet, I guess.
Speaker 1: And that kills me Hill because you the similarity of
Speaker 1: like Peyton's toughness and like your your toughness. I'm always fine,
Speaker 1: so like I'm good, cool, and and like the tenderness
Speaker 1: that exists between all of us and the things we share.
Speaker 1: Like to think of you struggling then that that shatters
Speaker 1: me because you were so like you were like running
Speaker 1: the social scene and doing it and you just seemed
Speaker 1: great and I'm like, oh, no, you needed a hug.
Speaker 1: We would have come, we would have hugged you. We
Speaker 1: would have come over, please hug. The whole side was
Speaker 1: that I got to come in on Brian Greenberg's day.
Speaker 1: You got where he was doing all this stuff with
Speaker 1: Lucas and big episode for BG and for and for Jake.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about Jake. What a babe. I mean,
Speaker 1: you imagine when you were in high school, you had
Speaker 1: a guy in your high school who played basketball, who
Speaker 1: was that hot, and who was doing the right thing
Speaker 1: and being a single dad and just you know, trying
Speaker 1: to trying to just do the right thing. And then
Speaker 1: he also sings. He has a guitar and he comes
Speaker 1: to open like night and you're like, it's so romantic
Speaker 1: and and the casual but like very vulnerable way that
Speaker 1: he just presents his daughter to everyone, like its air out.
Speaker 1: It took the pressure. It was so good, and the
Speaker 1: whole room was just like her. It's such a tribute
Speaker 1: to him as an actor. How come you when b
Speaker 1: Ge never did a duet? You two should have done
Speaker 1: a dudet, did you? I don't know, because not long
Speaker 1: after this part of the season, when we all really
Speaker 1: started to learn that he could sing, Remember he booked
Speaker 1: that Clooney show and he just the project green light thing, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I feel like I feel like we were I
Speaker 1: feel like we were all robbed. We were robbed. He
Speaker 1: picked Clooney, robbed he picked Clooney, and the fans were
Speaker 1: robbed of a duet. It's not over yet. If you
Speaker 1: could duet a song with Greenberg, what would you do
Speaker 1: at Islands in the streaming Islands in the streams in
Speaker 1: the stream What else could it possibly be? He was
Speaker 1: such an Elliott Smith fan, remember he was always singing
Speaker 1: those Elliott Smith songs. And I don't know, I would
Speaker 1: definitely do something that's sort of in that Nick Drake vibe, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something good and I loved to before, Like if we
Speaker 1: rewind to the beginning of the episode when Jake's all
Speaker 1: tired and the way Brian delivers that line, you know,
Speaker 1: because Lucas comes in and it's like, oh, you didn't
Speaker 1: get any sleep, Like who's the girl? And he's like
Speaker 1: you don't know her? And all of us that those
Speaker 1: moments are so fun as an audience member when you
Speaker 1: know something the actors don't know because you go, oh,
Speaker 1: he means the baby, and you get all it just
Speaker 1: feels good. Yeah, I mean that was crazy to me.
Speaker 1: The whole thing, like a boy has a baby, because
Speaker 1: where I grew up, there were tons of chicks with babies.
Speaker 1: But then there's also like a boy that has to
Speaker 1: have participated in that, and it never clicks, you know,
Speaker 1: it's always like, oh, she's a teen mom, and so
Speaker 1: to depict a teen dad was really different. I did too.
Speaker 1: I thought it was so cool. Yeah, they really got that,
Speaker 1: right would she do? Did we ever understand like what
Speaker 1: what the mom did, wasn't it? Emmanuel Voggier? She came back, right,
Speaker 1: she comes in? I know she comes in. I guess
Speaker 1: my memory is bad. I don't remember what her baggage was.
Speaker 1: That she just didn't want to be a parent, or
Speaker 1: that was like a druggie or something. No, I think
Speaker 1: she just didn't want to I can't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: We're going to find out it's coming. Baby. Jenny just
Speaker 1: graduated high school. I am friends with her and her
Speaker 1: mom on Facebook. Her graduation photos are posted. And so
Speaker 1: it's crazy when you look at a baby and you
Speaker 1: can absolutely see the adult that they've become like, because
Speaker 1: her face is you know, that's her face, and she's
Speaker 1: so cute and she has turned into such an accomplished, responsible,
Speaker 1: beautiful young woman Grace hal Come. She comes to a
Speaker 1: lot of our conventions, and it's fun to have watched
Speaker 1: this little person grow up. I want to know where
Speaker 1: that polaroid is Joy the polaroid, Yes, me, Hilary and Grace.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who has that? In? What archive? Does that
Speaker 1: polaroid live? And how do we get? I want it?
Speaker 1: That would be so fun to have that. You know
Speaker 1: that they're somewhere and there's all those polaroids from all
Speaker 1: of our makeup and hair and words, but they probably
Speaker 1: threw those out. Actually, I don't know. Guys. People have
Speaker 1: brought in our old wardrobe polaroids for us to sign
Speaker 1: at conventions and I'm like, how did you get that?
Speaker 1: Is so disconcerted. That makes me so uncomfortable. I will
Speaker 1: say the polaroids I do like, though, are the ones
Speaker 1: we took in this episode. And it feels very important
Speaker 1: to call out the fact that an episode ten of
Speaker 1: One Tree Hill, Brooke and Peyton invent the selfie. Literally
Speaker 1: like we are like, we just that's what we're doing. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take credit for everything. We can take credit.
Speaker 1: We were the first people to do it, but we
Speaker 1: definitely were the cutest. We were real cute. Yeah, super cute.
Speaker 1: We took you guys took a few of those. I
Speaker 1: wish the polaroid had stuck around and become like more
Speaker 1: of a thing in the Yeah, I still have polaroid cameras.
Speaker 1: When you hear that people have polaroid cameras now though,
Speaker 1: it still just makes me think they're doing it to
Speaker 1: take naked pictures. Really do myself, because you don't because
Speaker 1: it doesn't go on the cloud, right, have to have
Speaker 1: it printed. I just love film. I love film. I
Speaker 1: love the flash, the moment. You guys, I'm such a nerd,
Speaker 1: Like you know, photography is so it's like a language. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a love language. In my family. I'm like
Speaker 1: the nerd who's trolling eBay to collect old polaroid cameras,
Speaker 1: Like I have like a whole storage bin up above
Speaker 1: my washing machine just of like all these weird old
Speaker 1: cameras that I've bought over the years, What are you
Speaker 1: going to do with them? I mean, I use them.
Speaker 1: But the thing that's really annoying I have to say
Speaker 1: is that because film in general has gotten to be
Speaker 1: like retro and whatever. Now it's like a hundred bucks
Speaker 1: to get a ten pack of polaroid film for one
Speaker 1: of the polaroids I have that's from the sixties. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, this feels ridiculous. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: that's going to be a good photo. What if I blinked?
Speaker 1: It's ten dollars of blink, Like, get out of here.
Speaker 1: That's the charm of it. Back then, you know you
Speaker 1: got you got the one photo. By the seaside of
Speaker 1: whoever happened to have their eyes open, We've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of like that picture of Brook Peyton and baby Jenny.
Speaker 1: We see a lot in like fan art um and
Speaker 1: at conventions and stuff. And it's so nice to rewatch
Speaker 1: the episode know that Haley took that picture because I've
Speaker 1: forgotten that Tidney too, And the friendship between the girls
Speaker 1: is on display in this episode, and a really really,
Speaker 1: it really is. In fact, I noticed that this to me,
Speaker 1: this was the first time. Maybe I'm wrong, but it
Speaker 1: was the first time I noticed Peyton and Haley hanging
Speaker 1: out without a reason the walk and talk, so it
Speaker 1: was already the flyers already been made. There was no
Speaker 1: reason for for us to find each other except that
Speaker 1: we then I was just like, Okay, well, I guess
Speaker 1: we like each other now, so we'll just kind of
Speaker 1: keep walking and talking and hanging out. And it felt
Speaker 1: like the first time we we solidified that, Okay, there's
Speaker 1: an actual friendship here. It's not just it's thrown together
Speaker 1: in a car because we have to be or crossing
Speaker 1: paths because of this whole rectangle of people that were around.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you and me really choosing to
Speaker 1: spend time together. I liked that, and it made Peyton
Speaker 1: feel important that Hailey like asked her to help. That
Speaker 1: is always I find like the quickest way to make
Speaker 1: a friend is to like ask somebody for their skill set,
Speaker 1: because you're respecting what they're good at and you're honoring
Speaker 1: that and you're including them. You're letting them know, like
Speaker 1: you're the best at this. That's why I picked you,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, So it's a yeah, that's a good life. Heck,
Speaker 1: do that when you want to make friends with someone.
Speaker 1: It's also so nice to see all of these people
Speaker 1: really starting to see each other, Like Peyton and Haley
Speaker 1: are really seeing each other. Um, we're seeing Nathan, Nathan
Speaker 1: and Lucas are beginning to see each other, Like when
Speaker 1: Lucas says to Nathan at the cafe, like, come play
Speaker 1: with us at the river Court tonight, and Nathan says why,
Speaker 1: and he's like, because it's fun remember, like for the
Speaker 1: boys for him to see that his you know, estranged
Speaker 1: half brother is really hurting because of the pressure put
Speaker 1: on the fun thing. I even like, I have to say,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. We played these people for so long
Speaker 1: that they like they feel kind of like us or
Speaker 1: like our friends. And when when Haley is like being
Speaker 1: judgmental of Brooke in the beginning, I was like, that
Speaker 1: hurts my feelings. I love is that there for whatever
Speaker 1: reason in this development, like Haley and Brooke are are
Speaker 1: kind of the last to see each other, you know.
Speaker 1: And I actually thought it was really cool because it
Speaker 1: was such a thing Hill when you were mentioned and
Speaker 1: like John Hughes movies, whatever, it was such a thing
Speaker 1: to like judge the popular girl, or like judge girls
Speaker 1: for being quote unquote like easy or sexual or whatever.
Speaker 1: And Haley does it to Brooke and Lucas defends her
Speaker 1: and it's like it's because I like her. He's like,
Speaker 1: she's cool, she's smart, she makes me laugh, like stop,
Speaker 1: give her a chance, and it's good. It's really good,
Speaker 1: and like I liked that. She then kind of fessed
Speaker 1: up to Peyton like yeah, I haven't been doing it
Speaker 1: and I should. And and then like when you're so
Speaker 1: nice at the end and you offer to take the
Speaker 1: polaroid of us with the baby, I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: these people are making space for each other dispite their predispositions,
Speaker 1: and that's that's really cool. And you even, you know,
Speaker 1: as as Haley with Peyton, you call out your predisposition,
Speaker 1: You're like, I take back everything I said about Like
Speaker 1: it's I don't know. I find it to be really
Speaker 1: beautiful that we mod old like honesty about judgment, but
Speaker 1: also the potential to make room for your opinion to change. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like your opinion can and maybe should change about
Speaker 1: people on a regular basis, because we're all different people
Speaker 1: than we were five minutes ago. Um, and that's true
Speaker 1: for fictional characters as well. Um, me the grumpy girl
Speaker 1: that likes to make jokes instead of feel feelings. I
Speaker 1: cried watching the river Court scene. That affected me. I
Speaker 1: don't it's just like looking at like the shiny happy
Speaker 1: thing George snuck in here to watch it too. Um,
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Speaker 1: live dot com. See you there. Who do you love
Speaker 1: to party with more than any other dude on the show?
Speaker 1: Um Antoine Tanner. We got him. Okay, friends, we have
Speaker 1: Antoine Tanner. He's an American actor. He is best known
Speaker 1: for his recurring role as Michael on the up n
Speaker 1: sitcom Moesha and It's Been Off the Parkers. He had
Speaker 1: a starring role in the film Coach Carter. He's been
Speaker 1: an NYPD Blue Sister Sister and c s I and
Speaker 1: he is our friend. Antoine Tanna skills was good. Look
Speaker 1: at those malls. Hey, okay, Hi talk about a tank
Speaker 1: top party? Yeah, what's going on? Muscles? Are you wearing
Speaker 1: a juicy suit? I hope so I just got on
Speaker 1: shorts that that was my wardrobe. In one of the scenes, Twine,
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, there's a tank top in a
Speaker 1: juicy suit. So good to see your face. How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm proud of y'all. Man. You're killing the gang.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. We're having Wait, So, did
Speaker 1: you ever go to any of the basketball games before that? Like,
Speaker 1: did you go sit in the stand? You never had
Speaker 1: to work in eighteen hours Sunday. I didn't have to
Speaker 1: do none of those. I was just yeah, we were
Speaker 1: still on the river court. I would I would fly
Speaker 1: in California. Come shoot my damn um, maybe one thing
Speaker 1: on the stage in Lucas House or you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and then or at it was all River Court.
Speaker 1: That go back, Antoine, talk to us about what you
Speaker 1: were really like in high school. What were you doing?
Speaker 1: I was. I think I was a lot like skills
Speaker 1: on everything because I was a basketball star. I was
Speaker 1: a basketball star in my school. I was the class clown.
Speaker 1: You do say I was a class clown? Well not
Speaker 1: my like my freshman and sophomore year, we was. I
Speaker 1: was in the basketball start in because we had like
Speaker 1: stars at my school. Like that was real good. But
Speaker 1: when I came to California and I went to school
Speaker 1: out here, yeah, I was like big man on campus
Speaker 1: far as basketball was concerned. So and then I got
Speaker 1: girls because it was like a lot of different racists
Speaker 1: and like that, so it was cool. How did you
Speaker 1: tell us what the audition process was like for you
Speaker 1: getting the part on One Tree Hill as a basketball player? Well,
Speaker 1: I had already knew Schwan and Brian and Mike. I
Speaker 1: had already knew them. I used to play ball with
Speaker 1: Um and I did. Actually I worked with Brian and
Speaker 1: Mike prior, we did a show called UH after school
Speaker 1: special called UM I think it was called four Points
Speaker 1: with Shack Um and Cheryl Miller and UH and Robert
Speaker 1: Richard Robert Rochard. That was in Coach Carter, so we
Speaker 1: all he played He played interest on the show, and
Speaker 1: I was like a bully basketball kid. That was a bully,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We bullied him and you
Speaker 1: know what's and then all of a sudden he got good.
Speaker 1: So I worked with Brian on that. And then I
Speaker 1: also had did a pilot with Brian and Mike called
Speaker 1: was There Slam? So it was just supposed to be
Speaker 1: a series and it didn't get up. So like they
Speaker 1: already knew who I was. They already knew you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They already knew my work. Did it like, Hey,
Speaker 1: come play with us on this show. No. I went
Speaker 1: to an audition, but when I got in the room,
Speaker 1: we didn't talk, and we didn't audition like I you
Speaker 1: just talked. I studied this stuff. And then I walked
Speaker 1: in and I was like, Oh, what's up, y'all, What's
Speaker 1: what's happening? We you know, say the vole everybody. I
Speaker 1: just was like you know, and we just got to
Speaker 1: talking about basketball because at the time we was playing
Speaker 1: in the NBA Entertainment League had just like started. It
Speaker 1: was getting like it was getting big, and I was
Speaker 1: like averaging like m VP that year. So that when
Speaker 1: I came in, they just was talking about so, who
Speaker 1: y'all playing next week? And I was like, oh, we
Speaker 1: got so and so, and you know, they was like,
Speaker 1: oh damn, that's what's up. And it was like, Okay, listen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to North Carolina and shoot the show.
Speaker 1: It's a pilot. We're gonna be out there for about
Speaker 1: a week and it's gonna be happening this week. Uh
Speaker 1: that it was like April something when we shot. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget it was like right around my birthday. And uh,
Speaker 1: I told him myself, well, I can't go this week.
Speaker 1: You'all gonna have to like figure it out. Because I
Speaker 1: was doing the show with Um Clarence Win the third
Speaker 1: Rest in Peace UM called The Skin. It was on
Speaker 1: it was on CBS and remember that, Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: doing I did four episodes on that with Clarence Will
Speaker 1: was the third. So he um and they was like,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We're working out, and I was
Speaker 1: like all right, cool. So they was like I get
Speaker 1: out of here. We got an audition some people. I
Speaker 1: was like, all I bet so I left like that
Speaker 1: was what I okay. So we shot the pilot and
Speaker 1: Anton was like like we were just like talking because
Speaker 1: I was still going back and forth the MTV and
Speaker 1: Anton would talk and be like, oh, I know Brandy,
Speaker 1: I know so and so, I know so and so
Speaker 1: I know so and so. And I was like, who
Speaker 1: is this dude that knows everybody? And then sure I
Speaker 1: get back up to New York and everyone's like, oh yeah, Anton,
Speaker 1: like yeah, of course we all know him. I was
Speaker 1: just like, what where have I been? Yeah? You were
Speaker 1: like the most connected dude on the planet. You'd worked
Speaker 1: with everybody works. I was, you know what. It was
Speaker 1: crazy because I never wanted to be an actor or nothing.
Speaker 1: I didn't take no classes, I didn't study, I didn't
Speaker 1: I just was playing basketball. I got noticed playing basket.
Speaker 1: I was doing music first, and then I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I just really want to be on the soundtrack. So
Speaker 1: my like hole motivation to be in like I could
Speaker 1: get on the soundtrack and then so sing for us
Speaker 1: right now? Oh no, I can't sing. All right, That's
Speaker 1: what I do. I write. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I could write it. It's crazy, it's so weird.
Speaker 1: I could write it. But I just I never was
Speaker 1: a performer. I was a performer when I was rapping,
Speaker 1: like R and B and stuff like that. It's easy
Speaker 1: for me to write that. I don't know why you
Speaker 1: love Phil Collins. That's what I remember about the pilot,
Speaker 1: is you listening to Phil Collins. I love that you
Speaker 1: did have the best taste in music. You could always
Speaker 1: count on Antoine for a good soundtrack. I just did
Speaker 1: karaoke and while it's North Carolina last weekend for the
Speaker 1: Hope for the Warriors Foundation, and the girl who runs it,
Speaker 1: she was like, you need to participate and I was like,
Speaker 1: what you want me to do? She's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do a song with you. I was like, okay, She's like,
Speaker 1: what do you want to listen to some rap stuff?
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, Phil Collins. She was like Phil Collins.
Speaker 1: So I did Phil College. They had a ball out
Speaker 1: there that I was in the woods last week. I
Speaker 1: posted that on Instagram. Was it when the last time
Speaker 1: you were back in North Carolina like a convention. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was last week. I went, Um, well, I flew
Speaker 1: into Womanton. But you know, while it's just like right
Speaker 1: outside of like Burgo and Jacksonville, like forty minutes Womanton.
Speaker 1: So I was out there. I went to hung Out,
Speaker 1: Me and my boy can't We went to hung Out
Speaker 1: that night, just went to downtown. We went to Real Cafe,
Speaker 1: went to Level five for you real quick and just
Speaker 1: you know, pass some wings and then we went up
Speaker 1: to level five, had a couple of shots and then
Speaker 1: we went and later scene. Now is it the same
Speaker 1: as it was when we were there. Yes, it was
Speaker 1: a Saturday night and it was cracking. Yeah. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was popping. Yeah. They don't mask, They just out they
Speaker 1: don't care. Oh my god, oh yeah yeah yeo. Um okay,
Speaker 1: I want to know what your favorite Antoine One Tree
Speaker 1: Hill storyline was that you got to do. Oh. I
Speaker 1: liked it. I liked it everything. My favorite one was
Speaker 1: me and Nanny did. What's so funny is that she
Speaker 1: said the same thing is. I think what it was
Speaker 1: was I was I'm more like, I'm more confident, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying around women? But she like she
Speaker 1: was the first person that made me feel vulnerable the
Speaker 1: first person. So it was like, uh, she's so hot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She would keep you on your toes. So it was
Speaker 1: kind of like I could never relax with her. I
Speaker 1: always had the big show, much was on point. She
Speaker 1: had the most lovely things to say about you. I mean,
Speaker 1: she was talking about the scene where you guys were
Speaker 1: in the pool together right after she had just given
Speaker 1: birth to her daughter, and you know, she was topless,
Speaker 1: and you were just so sweet to her and like
Speaker 1: always really protective, and she just she said that she
Speaker 1: I mean, girls, if you remember any of this stuff too,
Speaker 1: I just remember Barb saying that she had such a
Speaker 1: great time working with you and felt so safe with
Speaker 1: you and had so much fun, Like you guys just
Speaker 1: got to play. Oh yeah, she played a lot. She
Speaker 1: had me like she had me so like nervous. The
Speaker 1: fun part of doing scenes with you, Antoine is that
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you read the script, because
Speaker 1: you just say what you need to say in the
Speaker 1: scene to move it forward. And it's fun to play.
Speaker 1: It's fun to just like make stuff up. Do you
Speaker 1: read the scripts? I don't read the whole scripts, just
Speaker 1: your person. I just read my scene and see what's happening.
Speaker 1: That's that's it, because the way I study is different Sam.
Speaker 1: When I work with Sam Jackson long time ago, I
Speaker 1: did one seven with him and he gave me like
Speaker 1: a bunch of game. Like you used to say, forget
Speaker 1: the lines noticing and go with your instinct. Like he
Speaker 1: would always say that, and I'd be like, what do
Speaker 1: you mean, like you have to read it? He said,
Speaker 1: you don't need to read everybody's stuff. You wasn't there
Speaker 1: for their stuff. You only there for your stuff. I like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. That That's what made me stop like
Speaker 1: really reading the scripts. And I was just like okay,
Speaker 1: but it kind of clicked in what he was saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get it at first, but then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh well, let me see. So what
Speaker 1: I would do. He would be like, read it, just
Speaker 1: read the same real quick and leave it alone. Just
Speaker 1: read it one time and leave it alone. And I'd
Speaker 1: be like all right, cool. So I would do it
Speaker 1: like two days before I even film, So I would
Speaker 1: read it, be in the showering, you know something you're
Speaker 1: in the showering, just think did it just go through
Speaker 1: your head? Like, so then when I got to say
Speaker 1: it was like, this is how I was gonna say
Speaker 1: it already, because this is I'm just going over it
Speaker 1: in my head just paraphrasing it, and the words just
Speaker 1: kind of came. So if I needed to find tune
Speaker 1: something that could be like, oh that meant this, okay,
Speaker 1: well let me go back and say that. But it
Speaker 1: was easy to put it in. That was always a
Speaker 1: cool thing to watch too, because like we we all
Speaker 1: got I mean watched like hawks, like we had to
Speaker 1: be word perfect. The scripty revisor was always on us.
Speaker 1: It was like the note from l A, like they
Speaker 1: have to say exactly what's on the age, and you'd
Speaker 1: come to set and everyone was like, oh, the rules
Speaker 1: don't apply to Antoine. We were all so in, all
Speaker 1: of you. We were like, how did he get that?
Speaker 1: How do we get that? They and you you always
Speaker 1: made it better, Like whatever they put on the page
Speaker 1: for skills, you'd be like, no, I get the point,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it like this. But it was
Speaker 1: fun to play with because as an actor, I mean
Speaker 1: of acting is listening, so if you're it felt like
Speaker 1: I got to really be in the moment with you
Speaker 1: because I didn't know what to expect exactly, So it
Speaker 1: was my job to listen to you and then I
Speaker 1: could respond. And usually what was on the page was
Speaker 1: a suitable response for whatever it was that you were saying,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it wasn't. And then we would just play
Speaker 1: and you know, go go on the fly. But the
Speaker 1: thing is they can't write it. They try to do.
Speaker 1: It's hard for him to write. Then, so it's like
Speaker 1: and and then you know how it is like like
Speaker 1: you can't you can't play a character like this because
Speaker 1: you may have you may have fend those people that
Speaker 1: actually talked like that. You see what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: you got to go back to the hood because I
Speaker 1: still go to Compton, I still go to South Central
Speaker 1: on Box. And then they'd be like, man, you man,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't talk like that. You're dumbing us down.
Speaker 1: You're making us look stupid, You're making us look you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, because that's not how it goes
Speaker 1: over there. So you know what I'm saying, So you
Speaker 1: have to take that into account, like I can't be
Speaker 1: over here, you know, disrespecting doctors and I'm saying certain
Speaker 1: words and doctors are looking at me, going what, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I want to know what all of your friends thought
Speaker 1: when you joined onto this show about white kids kissing
Speaker 1: and crying. Antoine, you know what, they don't get that
Speaker 1: white money because oh did anyone give you? Give you
Speaker 1: for being on like a teen drama because you, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're a sports guy. You know you've also played a
Speaker 1: teenager forever because for our Urgeless Yeah, I played I placed.
Speaker 1: I told my daughter, I said up seventeen for seventeen years,
Speaker 1: and she was like, has she seen it? Have your
Speaker 1: kids seen the show? I don't think they watch it.
Speaker 1: I mean my kids are like totally not like industry
Speaker 1: kids at all. Like, yeah, the oldest so he just
Speaker 1: he got in his last year and um, what is it?
Speaker 1: Aerospace engineering something? And then the young one he's getting
Speaker 1: ready to go to college when he took this year off.
Speaker 1: We've been working with me. My other daughter she's still
Speaker 1: in school, and then the other one is doing something
Speaker 1: in makeup. So she's the only one that's kind of
Speaker 1: close because she want to do something, but she's still
Speaker 1: in school for that right now. So they was really
Speaker 1: just like not industry kids. I remember a few times
Speaker 1: you'll want to go to the premiere. No, I'm about
Speaker 1: to go to some You don't want to go to
Speaker 1: the premiere. That's why, like I always bought like my
Speaker 1: sister in law, mom, you know, I bought other people
Speaker 1: because they never wanted to go, which was crazy to
Speaker 1: be had like a kid old enough to come and
Speaker 1: like hang out. We were all such dufaces that you
Speaker 1: were dead. They all came, what three of them came
Speaker 1: that one time when we came when we did the Racer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that they all came in. That's when he was still
Speaker 1: in all the snacks. I also remember, Twine, when you
Speaker 1: and I first started to become friends in the beginning. Uh.
Speaker 1: And there was that night we were all still living
Speaker 1: at the Riverview Sweets because like we hadn't found apartments
Speaker 1: yet or anything, and the fire alarm went off at
Speaker 1: like three in the morning. We had to plod downstairs,
Speaker 1: and your little baby just crawled up in my lap
Speaker 1: and I was like, Hi, let's yes, you can stay here,
Speaker 1: And you looked at me and you were like, he's smart,
Speaker 1: he knows, he's cute. It's working. He's almost twenty one now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my gosh, he's the baby. That's
Speaker 1: crazy part. Now he's my working out we go. He
Speaker 1: hit me up a couple of weeks ago. I was like, Dad,
Speaker 1: you look good. You've been working out. I see you
Speaker 1: lost your weight. Um can I come with you and
Speaker 1: go to your trainer? I was like, all right, that's
Speaker 1: a compliment. So he go with me for the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So I want to ask a question
Speaker 1: that we kind of all get hit with all the
Speaker 1: time from fans and interviews and stuff, which is where
Speaker 1: do you think Skills would be ten years later? Like
Speaker 1: where is he now? I think Skills would have been coaching.
Speaker 1: I really believe he would have been coaching because you know,
Speaker 1: they did a lot of stuff that he did for
Speaker 1: the with the kids, you know you So I think
Speaker 1: Skills would be like, if not the head coach, at
Speaker 1: least the assistant coach at at Tree Hill High. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see him as head coach for sure, like
Speaker 1: a gym teacher, but you know, a gym teacher, but
Speaker 1: slash basketball coach. I could see him. Yeah. You know,
Speaker 1: he was a mentor in so many ways and had
Speaker 1: really had his really had together. I feel like, well
Speaker 1: he became like Jamie's babysitter. You know, like any time
Speaker 1: there was kids stuff, they put you on the case. Antoine.
Speaker 1: They were like, we know who can handle this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And the kids was so much easier than working with
Speaker 1: the girls. It was because see, y'all got to get
Speaker 1: hair and make up, and I was like, where are
Speaker 1: you about to go with this? Every every time they
Speaker 1: cut to make up, people in your face. They're making
Speaker 1: sure your hair straight. The kids, they just got dressed
Speaker 1: one time. They don't care to eat cheeseburgers, they got skateboards,
Speaker 1: didn't care about none of that. So we would get
Speaker 1: and then they only had to work like five hours.
Speaker 1: So I was like, my days short. To figure it out.
Speaker 1: We came back from hiatus one year. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was season four or season five, but I
Speaker 1: got the memo, maybe it's even season two. I got
Speaker 1: the memo that they were hooking Peyton and Skills up.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? What happened? This is what happened.
Speaker 1: What happened? I did not hear this. We had went out,
Speaker 1: We went out and we went back to Swan's place
Speaker 1: when they was on Market Street. It was staying at
Speaker 1: that condor upstairs. So he went back there. So he
Speaker 1: started asking me questions like, well, what do you think?
Speaker 1: I said, men, why y'all don't never give skills no
Speaker 1: druma like hook him up with a girl like one
Speaker 1: of the main girls that you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: said y'all, well, I don't know, And I was like, no, listen,
Speaker 1: I said, if you, I said, that's all kind of
Speaker 1: girl cold, y'all breaking. And so the best friend get
Speaker 1: the date the other one she's still in love with,
Speaker 1: and that y'all cool with that? Like okay, that's a
Speaker 1: girl code like y'all, y'all all that. So why not
Speaker 1: hook skills up with one of them? Since y'all all
Speaker 1: over the place. I said, Peyton would be really good,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you could give us some type of
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, some type of yeah, because
Speaker 1: I don't have nothing. I'm just I just come in
Speaker 1: say some funny. Then you don't see me, know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I said, that was it. Pet needed somebody
Speaker 1: that was funny. Pet never got to kiss anybody funny.
Speaker 1: I didn't get the only kids who who did that
Speaker 1: kiss just I kiss Lauren Lauren and and and that's it.
Speaker 1: But like Lee kissed everybody, did kiss everybody everybody even
Speaker 1: we did we Ever, we should take a pole. Who
Speaker 1: which character on our show kissed the most people? That's
Speaker 1: a fan pole. I think it was a pole. Somebody
Speaker 1: do the math. I feel like it was probably Broke,
Speaker 1: But oh man, if mouth beats broke, I'll be thrilled.
Speaker 1: Would be great. You might be right, but I think
Speaker 1: it was I think it was Lee because he kissed
Speaker 1: Brooke yess my girl. He kissed Lauren, he kissed Rachel,
Speaker 1: he kissed everybody he had. Yeah, what was your what
Speaker 1: was your favorite thing about the experience, the entire ones
Speaker 1: real experience, Like as you look back on that chapter
Speaker 1: in your life, like, what was your favorite thing of
Speaker 1: all of it? You know, it's crazy because I was
Speaker 1: when I said, I was just in Woman Toil last
Speaker 1: last week, and I like to look around and I like,
Speaker 1: when I'm near, I feel like I gotta get up
Speaker 1: and go to work. Like I don't know why, I
Speaker 1: just feel like I gotta get up. We gotta go
Speaker 1: to screen them. Like I was like, oh, we're not
Speaker 1: working on the show, no more like down here. But
Speaker 1: the love is still crazy. But my biggest thing was
Speaker 1: I met a whole family, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that that was like huge for me because I hated
Speaker 1: it in North Carolina when I first went, I used
Speaker 1: to take my vide it was so boring because you
Speaker 1: remember everything used to close at like five o'clock. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't drink, I didn't smoke, I didn't do none
Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying. So it was like,
Speaker 1: I don't dance, I don't know nobody. I'm just in
Speaker 1: this hotel room. But that when women Tony in or
Speaker 1: river View and I'm just chilling like it was nothing
Speaker 1: to do then to they came and picked you up
Speaker 1: and work, so as you look forward to going to
Speaker 1: work when you got there, but as soon as it
Speaker 1: was time for me to come home, I was like,
Speaker 1: let's go. I'm out of him and going back there.
Speaker 1: Like plus I had smart kids at the time too,
Speaker 1: So but yeah, what was the training point for you?
Speaker 1: When did you start to feel like it was a
Speaker 1: on base season? Like five like five six? Yees? About
Speaker 1: like five six is when I like, because I remember
Speaker 1: I didn't signed until season four. I think it was
Speaker 1: season four when I Yeah, because the recurring but I
Speaker 1: was still working a lot though, you know, like they
Speaker 1: couldn't let me just you know, because when I first started,
Speaker 1: I was doing I had right after we did one
Speaker 1: Tree here, I when they did Never Die Along, right
Speaker 1: we they Never Die Along. I think that was like
Speaker 1: oh four. Then we got to pick up, so then
Speaker 1: everybody started working on that. But then I had then
Speaker 1: Coach Carter came around. Even though that was still the
Speaker 1: same people there was like, we can't do it because
Speaker 1: then we'll have to shoot you out and then we
Speaker 1: got to bring you back to l A. So we'll
Speaker 1: just let you go do the movie. Then after the movie,
Speaker 1: then we'll bring skills. You know. That's when they came
Speaker 1: up with the whole we'll bring we make a run
Speaker 1: at the state championship and stuff like that. Was all right, cool,
Speaker 1: lets let's do it. Because but then Womanton actually started
Speaker 1: growing a little bit by then, so I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I could get I could get used to this a
Speaker 1: little big. It did go from like all the antique stores,
Speaker 1: remember it was like yeah, but then like downtown all
Speaker 1: of a sudden was like bars and tattoo parlors. Then
Speaker 1: it became like fun. Yeah, it was just dead. It
Speaker 1: was so dead. I should just play video games all day.
Speaker 1: I didn't do nothing, which is so strange for a
Speaker 1: college town. I always thought it should have been. There
Speaker 1: should have been more of a nightlife. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so glad that when we showed up there that started.
Speaker 1: But like Dawson's was there before us, there were lots
Speaker 1: of other projects there. I don't know why it didn't.
Speaker 1: It was just still dead. I remember I tried to
Speaker 1: rent a car and I had to go up there
Speaker 1: and it was closed at like five o'clock. It was nothing.
Speaker 1: No more stores after that. On market it was Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like fields and farms and what are you
Speaker 1: working on now? I just did this show called The Hole.
Speaker 1: H o e um me happened everything. It's actually on
Speaker 1: my page, the trailer that I had posted with a
Speaker 1: friend of mine, Miko grim She um cool. She I
Speaker 1: met her. I've been doing Miko since high school. We
Speaker 1: played ball together, like she played at w n b
Speaker 1: A all like play ball with her and she ended
Speaker 1: up marrying Um Brent Rhymes and the when he played
Speaker 1: for the Falcons, and she became a sports agent stuff
Speaker 1: like that. You know what I'm saying. So she made
Speaker 1: her own money and so she was like, bro, I
Speaker 1: got a project. I want you to come help me
Speaker 1: do it and do it up. And we did it. It
Speaker 1: It was a short of it just once some awards somewhere,
Speaker 1: but she's shopping it right now. They get picked up.
Speaker 1: But I also did another I did another spot called um.
Speaker 1: I did another joint called What's the Name of the
Speaker 1: St Bodie sat Bodi's Mad World. It's a true story,
Speaker 1: is supposed to be like a mini series. Um, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be crazy my character, so I'm like the Dan
Speaker 1: Scott evil and the fun that's gonna be really fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the little girl, the little girl that that's in
Speaker 1: the show with me, that plays my daughter, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's incredible, Like she's gonna blow up. I posted her.
Speaker 1: I was like, like, she's a newbie, but she has it,
Speaker 1: like she has. You posted this on Instagram so we
Speaker 1: can repost it. Yeah, I posted it. I just posted
Speaker 1: the picture of her. But I'm waiting on them just
Speaker 1: gonna be the trailer. You have to let us be
Speaker 1: your cheerleaders. Yeah, I got you. I posted. I'm definitely
Speaker 1: gonna post it. I just hadn't posted it because they
Speaker 1: hadn't really putting that. Now you know like that yet,
Speaker 1: but it's good time. We're your girls so good. And
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna shoot that movie I was telling you
Speaker 1: about the Leash and remember, so finally it's so good.
Speaker 1: It's been like eleven years and finally it's like we
Speaker 1: got the money to do it. So it's like, let's
Speaker 1: do it. You know what I'm saying, like, we love you.
Speaker 1: It's so good to see you. I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: you came. Yeah, will you come back on the show.
Speaker 1: Please let me come plain with us. What episode do
Speaker 1: you want to come back for? What's the episode? When
Speaker 1: you're like, DIBs, that one's mine, let me see. Um,
Speaker 1: it was so many good ones. Though, it was so
Speaker 1: many good ones. I can't like it because me, I
Speaker 1: never read the script for the school, so I never
Speaker 1: forget me. And Lee was on set and it was like, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: tomorrow we gotta go. We gotta go to the cemetery
Speaker 1: to film the funeral scene. I was like, somebody died.
Speaker 1: It was like yeah. I was like, oh my bad.
Speaker 1: I didn't read that. So I was like, man, I said,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a good episode. I need to
Speaker 1: read this. Then I never read it. I watched it
Speaker 1: because at the time when when when we first started,
Speaker 1: I knew we was gonna last. I kept saying it.
Speaker 1: Everybody else was like Twine, you're tripping. You're tripping like
Speaker 1: it's not gonna And I said, look, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you like this. We got some pretty white boys and
Speaker 1: some pretty white girls, and y'all keep us in the
Speaker 1: damn tabloids. So we stand in the tabloids this show
Speaker 1: from the back. I said, it don't need an audition
Speaker 1: for nothing. I'm just gonna take mine. It was like Twine,
Speaker 1: they just merged the w B with this. They canceled
Speaker 1: all of these shows. I said, but this one ain't no.
Speaker 1: We're you did you always had confidence. We need to
Speaker 1: have you and Barbara on the same episode. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see you get get a little bashful
Speaker 1: around Barbara. Yeah, it's coming always. I love her. She
Speaker 1: is so sweet, are so big and pretty and grown
Speaker 1: and know can you believe? Yeah? I remember they was
Speaker 1: in um in Paris with us when we did that
Speaker 1: convention over there. Oh my god, Oh yeah, me and
Speaker 1: me and Olivia and we had so much fun. If
Speaker 1: you're ever to go out in Paris with someone. It's Antoine.
Speaker 1: The time is taking me out. He also taught me
Speaker 1: what uber was because I didn't know how to get
Speaker 1: home in Paris, and Antoine's like, I will teach you
Speaker 1: to go out because you're m Antoine. We've got to
Speaker 1: wrap up, but I love you and I'm excited that
Speaker 1: you're going to come back, and you've always it can
Speaker 1: such good care of us anytime something's going on in
Speaker 1: our life. You are the person the calls and checks in,
Speaker 1: and I can't tell you how important that is. We
Speaker 1: love you, know you already know. Wait before he goes,
Speaker 1: should we spin the wheel? I would love to have
Speaker 1: a question. Put we do? We do a most likely
Speaker 1: to like in the yearbook every week, but we have
Speaker 1: this fun little thing that spins it and it picks
Speaker 1: the most likely too for us get ready for so
Speaker 1: it picks at random. We need your health care? Oh,
Speaker 1: who's most likely to write a best selling book? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean we have Lucas and we have Hillary like
Speaker 1: in real life and Fiship. Oh my god, listen. So
Speaker 1: I've gotten some bad reviews for my book, and of
Speaker 1: course I read them right, and every single bad review
Speaker 1: is to talk about once we hill at all that's
Speaker 1: that they're mad about. Wow, bitch, please, we'll write a
Speaker 1: whole book about that. It'll be great. You can't please everybody.
Speaker 1: I say that. I used to do my parties but
Speaker 1: at the convention and I still have people mad. So
Speaker 1: it's like, that's so funny. Somebody is always mad about something,
Speaker 1: always mad about stuff. That you can't please everybody. So
Speaker 1: I just said, you know what it is. What it
Speaker 1: is like, I don't give a damn. When the world
Speaker 1: is safe again and you throw your epic party at
Speaker 1: the next convention, what is the karaoke song that you're
Speaker 1: going to sing? Antoine in the air tonight, phil Colin,
Speaker 1: I might do We Wait and we wanted because I
Speaker 1: like that one. I like we Waiting, We wonder that's
Speaker 1: a good all right, we're counting the days ya vaccinated?
Speaker 1: Were your masks? Can't wait? You love you so much? Will?
Speaker 1: She upstairs laying down. She had appointment early this morning,
Speaker 1: so she in the bed. I'm finishing all right, hugged
Speaker 1: for us, for us, You love you. Antoine's doing this
Speaker 1: movie in November, and he sent me the script to
Speaker 1: just like take a look at because it's producers that
Speaker 1: I've worked with before. It is so him. It's like
Speaker 1: an awesome thriller movie. He's the lead of it, just
Speaker 1: like you read it and you know that it is
Speaker 1: just the thing that was made for him. And so
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so good. That makes me so happy,
Speaker 1: so good in it, And so I love seeing him
Speaker 1: like so fit because it's like actionly. So y'all keep
Speaker 1: your ass peeled. Boyfriend's gonna be an action hero. I
Speaker 1: love that. Hey, what's what's next week's episode? Anybody now
Speaker 1: what happens in eleven? What are we looking forward to?
Speaker 1: Let's see? Episode eleven is called The Living Years, and
Speaker 1: mean we have Dan and Deb now they've got to
Speaker 1: go to therapy or she's kicking them out. Um, Basketball's
Speaker 1: on pause. Peyton starting something up with Jake. It seems
Speaker 1: like there was a lot of chemistry there. Well, it
Speaker 1: says here in this description Peyton's dad comes home number one.
Speaker 1: There were two dads. Actually there were three dads, but
Speaker 1: this is dad number one. Thank you all so much
Speaker 1: for joining us for another great episode. This one. This
Speaker 1: one was really really fun. You know, the three of
Speaker 1: us got a little weepy when we watched that sort
Speaker 1: of epic moment going from Gavin at Karen's cafe to
Speaker 1: the boys on the River Court and all of us
Speaker 1: and you know, our moment on the Comet, and I
Speaker 1: don't know we we were all talking while we were
Speaker 1: watching it about how if there's a night that we
Speaker 1: could go back to and just relish in again, at
Speaker 1: least so far in these first ten episodes, that that
Speaker 1: would one night to like bought back into the river,
Speaker 1: to the River Court, and I would have stolen she felt.
Speaker 1: I want to just taken up and put I'm in
Speaker 1: a scrap book. Felt so good to see everybody in
Speaker 1: the same place, and I remember us all having so
Speaker 1: much fun that night, and you know, just the weather
Speaker 1: and everybody having a ball, and the lights were bright,
Speaker 1: and the whole cast was there, and it felt like
Speaker 1: we were really doing something special and exciting. And I
Speaker 1: really felt like I was a part of something special,
Speaker 1: and and I was, we were, you know, But that
Speaker 1: night it's for some reason that the magic was alive.
Speaker 1: So thanks for joining us for that special part of
Speaker 1: the episode for for us, and thanks for keeping the
Speaker 1: magic alive for us all these years. Guys, don't forget
Speaker 1: you're the reason we're here, Go Ravens. Hey, thanks for listening.
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