Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Studio presented by iHeart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: your host Joe Levy. So while we've all been cooped
Speaker 1: up at home staying safe and staying healthy, the Inside
Speaker 1: the Studio team has put together a home edition of
Speaker 1: the show, bringing you into the bedrooms and living rooms
Speaker 1: of your favorite artists in order to find out how
Speaker 1: they're coping with lockdown and how it's impacting the way
Speaker 1: they make music. And if anyone is qualified to talk
Speaker 1: about that, it's Trevor Daniel, who first started recording in
Speaker 1: a closet in his bedroom when he was fourteen years old.
Speaker 1: Trevor broke through earlier this year with Falling and he's
Speaker 1: just released a remix of Past Life featuring Selena Gomez.
Speaker 1: Our Quarantine correspondent, Jordan Runtalg talked with Trevor about how
Speaker 1: he's living and making music during these pandemic times. And
Speaker 1: if you enjoy this episode, which I know you will,
Speaker 1: be sure to check out the I Heart Radio podcast
Speaker 1: that Jordan's hosts, Rivals Music's Greatest Feuds, which is available
Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Hello everyone, my
Speaker 1: name is Jordan Runtalg. But enough about me today I'm
Speaker 1: joined by a self taught singer, songwriter, and producer from
Speaker 1: the great state of Texas. He started releasing music on SoundCloud,
Speaker 1: but you probably know him for his hit Balling, which
Speaker 1: tackles the high highs and low lows of toxic crazy love.
Speaker 1: Since first blowing up on TikTok, the song has been
Speaker 1: streamed over a billion times across the globe and crack
Speaker 1: the Billboard Top twenty. Falling can be found on Trevor's
Speaker 1: debut LP Nicotine, which dives further into the theme of
Speaker 1: relation chips. You just can't quit no matter how hard
Speaker 1: you try, my guest once said of my songs or
Speaker 1: breakup songs. Today we're gonna find out why and if
Speaker 1: you need to hug. I'm thrilled the welcome, the very
Speaker 1: suave Trevor, Daniel Trevor, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1: It's such a pleasure. Thank you man, Thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you, oh man. So many things to ask you,
Speaker 1: because first and foremost, how you doing. I know the
Speaker 1: last few months have been tough on all of us.
Speaker 1: What's been keeping you feeling good and grounded? Um? Just
Speaker 1: my friends and everything they've been here with me, pretty
Speaker 1: much for the whole time. Just like you know, it's
Speaker 1: pretty much it. I mean, I've been making music and
Speaker 1: stuff when I when I can. It's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to um make music whenever I'm not really doing anything.
Speaker 1: It's weird because usually I'll just like be at home
Speaker 1: working on music all the time anyway, But as soon
Speaker 1: as it's kind of mandated, I don't, like it's like
Speaker 1: my mind it doesn't want to do it. So like
Speaker 1: I still want to make music, but it's like my
Speaker 1: mind shuts off and it's like no, like go do
Speaker 1: some thing else right now, and like get some inspiration.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I was gonna say, it's so hard to
Speaker 1: focus in times like this. But then again, every profile
Speaker 1: I read of you always calls you like bedroom artists
Speaker 1: making music from his bedroom to the world. So I
Speaker 1: guess like the way that you've been making music probably
Speaker 1: hasn't changed that much, but just the feeling has got
Speaker 1: to be different. Yeah, not really, not really, man. Just
Speaker 1: just in this little turn this little closet into a studio.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of a big close. So it's this one.
Speaker 1: This one's cool. The one at home in Houston. It's
Speaker 1: kind of tiny, but it still works too. So do
Speaker 1: you think you're like more of a homebody? Do you
Speaker 1: get your inspiration to write by like going out or
Speaker 1: looking in word more? I think a little bit of both.
Speaker 1: Um It like quarantine has kind of caused me to
Speaker 1: look inward like a little more than I wanted to.
Speaker 1: But um it's cool though, Uh, I like going out
Speaker 1: to get inspiration and people watching and just like I'm
Speaker 1: just like seeing how people interact with each other and
Speaker 1: just like different reactions to things and and maybe how
Speaker 1: they would react to something that I would react differently too.
Speaker 1: And but when I'm working, I tend to like to
Speaker 1: be by myself at first, at least to like the
Speaker 1: first phase of the song. Sometimes it'll be completed at home,
Speaker 1: but sometimes, like I like to like it used to
Speaker 1: not be like this, but I'll go finalize it like
Speaker 1: at a bigger studio. It's pretty much just like this
Speaker 1: one studio, the one that I recorded falling at that
Speaker 1: that I'll go and like do final versions of at
Speaker 1: a bigger studio. But sometimes like that at home cuts
Speaker 1: make it a lot of times they do, just because
Speaker 1: like the emotion or whatever at first is there and
Speaker 1: it's hard to recapture that. But yeah, what are you
Speaker 1: working on now that you're really proud of? Um, I'm
Speaker 1: working on a deluxe right now for Nicotine. UM. I figured, like,
Speaker 1: we have ten songs out and ideally like Corona wouldn't
Speaker 1: have happened. Um, you know, but I mean it is
Speaker 1: what it is, and so I still wanted to put
Speaker 1: out the album for the fans and everything. But then
Speaker 1: I got the idea to do the deluxe. Originally it
Speaker 1: was gonna be like a normal deluxe, It's gonna be
Speaker 1: like three or four songs. But the original version, like
Speaker 1: the first half, was just ten songs. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to basically, in my mind it was whenever Quarantine ended,
Speaker 1: I was going to release another ten songs to basically
Speaker 1: make it feel like they just got a whole new album.
Speaker 1: But it's still a part of the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm trying to release ten more songs, um,
Speaker 1: which shouldn't be too hard. I made like eighty for
Speaker 1: the for the original version. Yeah, that I picked from
Speaker 1: It was hard to narrow down. How do you go
Speaker 1: about narrowing down from EIGHTI songs? Is there like a
Speaker 1: through line you're looking for in your album? Like, what
Speaker 1: are you looking for to make your album sound cohesive? Well,
Speaker 1: the first half especially, I wanted to be very like
Speaker 1: cohesive and in a storyline. Um, and if you listen
Speaker 1: to it, a lot of it's like, it'll be a
Speaker 1: really happy song, like oh like and this is exactly
Speaker 1: how like my headspace was like in my last relationship
Speaker 1: that I was talking about. In this album, it's like
Speaker 1: really really good. It'll be like, oh like, I'll love
Speaker 1: you through the highs and through the lows, like I'm
Speaker 1: down for whatever, and then the realization of like, okay,
Speaker 1: well I'm not really being treated that well. So it's
Speaker 1: like very back and forth, like it's a happy song
Speaker 1: set song, happy song set song, because that's how it felt.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people are like, oh, it's like
Speaker 1: very it's not very cohesive because it's very up and down.
Speaker 1: But to me, that's exactly how it was. So I
Speaker 1: wanted them to kind of love yeah. So that's how
Speaker 1: I wanted to to like structure that album. I've been
Speaker 1: trying to figure out listening to Falling. I've been trying
Speaker 1: to figure out if it's a happy sad song or
Speaker 1: a sad happy song. Do you have any insight. Can
Speaker 1: you help me out on that at all? Yeah? To me,
Speaker 1: it's a happy song. Like I wrote this song about
Speaker 1: this high school relationship I had. So I was with
Speaker 1: this girl and then we broke up and I'm like, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: like whatever, I'm not I'm not going to do this anymore.
Speaker 1: Literally two weeks later, bro, I met this girl in
Speaker 1: driving school and like, uh, we were taking our permit
Speaker 1: test or whatever, and then yeah, we dated for like
Speaker 1: seven years. Yeah, yeah, it was pretty it was it
Speaker 1: was a pretty good one. But things changed a little bit,
Speaker 1: like things started taking off in like time I didn't
Speaker 1: really have any time and that started like being a
Speaker 1: strain and everything. But her and I are so cool. Um,
Speaker 1: she wasn't toxic at all. She was really she was
Speaker 1: really like dope. So we're still cool and everything. I
Speaker 1: just like things are really busy right now. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, so her and I like broke it off
Speaker 1: for a little while, but um, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I mean it's a happy song. But
Speaker 1: do I have detecting a hint of a reunion there?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe we'll see. We still talk it.
Speaker 1: We're still cool. She just lives in Houston and I'm
Speaker 1: in l A. So it's like it's hard to see her,
Speaker 1: especially during this quarantine thing, Like um, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: what does she think of the song? But she was
Speaker 1: there when I recorded it, so yeah yeah, Oh man,
Speaker 1: was that? How was that for you? How was that
Speaker 1: for her? How was that for both of you? I mean,
Speaker 1: I get it wasn't that weird, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: because um, because like originally following was like a poem,
Speaker 1: like if you listen to the course, and none of
Speaker 1: the words rhyme at all, Like there's not a single
Speaker 1: rhyming word in the course. It's just the melody kind
Speaker 1: of makes it feel like it like rhymes and comes
Speaker 1: back and you know, um finishes out well. But at
Speaker 1: that point, she had been with me for quite a
Speaker 1: while and had you know, I've written a lot of
Speaker 1: songs and stuff at that point, like used, I was
Speaker 1: used to her being in the room and stuff I
Speaker 1: was recording, and like, so I wasn't it wasn't that
Speaker 1: big of a deal. But I mean, she loved it.
Speaker 1: I guess it seems sad. It is a minor key,
Speaker 1: so it seems like a little more sad, But um,
Speaker 1: it's it's not to me, but I mean it can
Speaker 1: be interpreted. However, speaking of interpretations, what was it like
Speaker 1: to know that the song just blew up on TikTok
Speaker 1: like and knowing that, you know, millions of these people
Speaker 1: are just putting their own twists on this song that's
Speaker 1: you know, very personal for you. That's cool to me,
Speaker 1: man like honestly, like, like, regardless of how they feel
Speaker 1: about it, I'm gonna feel how I feel about it,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna feel how they feel about it. Like
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they get something out of it at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. People interpreting songs and everything,
Speaker 1: it's really cool because sometimes it doesn't even have to
Speaker 1: do with the words necessarily. Maybe it's just like the
Speaker 1: sound of it creates like a certain sense of euphoria
Speaker 1: or something for a certain time and moment, whether it's
Speaker 1: happy or sad. Sometimes it's not the word. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just the feeling of it, or or vice versa, because
Speaker 1: like Falling has kind of like a more mellow, like
Speaker 1: sadder kind of tone it feels like, but the words
Speaker 1: are happy. Really, it's just like the back and forth
Speaker 1: the beat and then the vocals are like kind of
Speaker 1: polar opposite as far as like what what they like
Speaker 1: sound like the beats really sad in the vocals or
Speaker 1: the lyrics at least are happy. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: how I've felt in that situation because I had just
Speaker 1: broken up, like with the last girl, and I felt
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't really do that again. And it was
Speaker 1: really adamant on that. And then that the happy part
Speaker 1: is where like I met the new girl and like
Speaker 1: so I was in this headspace of kind of bummed out,
Speaker 1: but like in the meantime it was like cutting through
Speaker 1: because like I me at her. So that's like why
Speaker 1: it sounds so backwards. Almost good, Yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 1: the one relationship in the beginning of another the title
Speaker 1: your album Nicotine is very evocative. What does that mean
Speaker 1: to you? Yeah, It's like some people I figured would
Speaker 1: think I was like promoting cigarettes or something, but it's
Speaker 1: not like that. It's just like, I know, um, nicotine.
Speaker 1: It's like something that a lot of people, especially in
Speaker 1: my age group, a lot of people are like baping
Speaker 1: and stuff and and like really don't really think about it.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like advocate or like really be
Speaker 1: that that guy or anything, but you don't really realize it, um,
Speaker 1: because you don't really realize like the damage it's doing
Speaker 1: to you in the moment, just because it's like fun
Speaker 1: and it feels good. It like doesn't really feel like
Speaker 1: it's messing you up. But ultimately it's pretty toxic. And
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the comparison or the metaphor that
Speaker 1: I was making. There was a great quote I said
Speaker 1: it at the at the top of the episode that
Speaker 1: you said about your songs or breakup songs? Do you
Speaker 1: consider yourself a romantic? I honestly, dude, Um, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm like a good boyfriend. I got am but
Speaker 1: I do. My biggest problem so far that I've like, Um,
Speaker 1: this goes back to being in quarantine and like realizing
Speaker 1: things about myself that I don't think I'm a romantic.
Speaker 1: Like I could write songs about stuff because I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about it. It's really bad because I'll think about it
Speaker 1: in the moment, but like I'll think I say something
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking it. Like a lot of times I'll
Speaker 1: read a text and I'll like think of a response
Speaker 1: and then not respond because I thought I responded. And um,
Speaker 1: we've all been there. Yeah, that's like that's like the
Speaker 1: biggest thing that I'm noticing, especially the seven year relationship. Um,
Speaker 1: Like I'll lock in the studio and I'll write about
Speaker 1: this stuff all the time and I'll try to really
Speaker 1: bring it to life because I'm thinking it and I
Speaker 1: want to do it and like things will happen or whatever.
Speaker 1: But like the super romance to take parts is mostly
Speaker 1: like just what I'm thinking, But I guess I have
Speaker 1: a hard time like saying it outside of song, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense. So no, totally. Sometimes sometimes like I'll
Speaker 1: be in in like a zone or something, and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, yo, like I'm killing it, like like she
Speaker 1: she's like super stoked and happy or whatever right now,
Speaker 1: and like I'm I'm like saying the right stuff. But
Speaker 1: like sometimes I just like accidentally say things that just
Speaker 1: like dig myself a hole or whatever, and like like
Speaker 1: I don't mean it like that, but it just comes
Speaker 1: across a certain way and then and you try to
Speaker 1: make it better and it just makes it so much worse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I know you're a big Kanye fan. Can
Speaker 1: I go out on a limb and guess that your
Speaker 1: favorite Kanye albums? Eight oh Eight's yeah it is. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it is yeah, Man, I hear that in your music,
Speaker 1: So yeah, dude, that that album is probably one of
Speaker 1: the most inspirational albums to me, Like sonically it came
Speaker 1: out when I was in seventh grade. Dude, I just
Speaker 1: listened to it over and over and over, and I
Speaker 1: swear I still listen to them. And what's crazy to me,
Speaker 1: Remember when I was talking about like how sometimes it's
Speaker 1: not really the lyrics and it's the overall field or
Speaker 1: like the euphoria the song gives you, um because there's
Speaker 1: just like multiple elements of like what can invoke emotion
Speaker 1: and somebody like when I hear this sounds really crazy,
Speaker 1: But like when I hear eight o Waits in Heartbreak,
Speaker 1: it reminds me of Christmas time. Whoa yeah, because like
Speaker 1: I was listening to it a lot when it was cold,
Speaker 1: and I remember like going to the movies with my friends.
Speaker 1: We were always jamming, like Kick Cuttie and Kanye. That's
Speaker 1: just like what it reminds me of. It's probably a
Speaker 1: really weird comparison, But do you ever listen to the
Speaker 1: Beach Boys much because they kind of do a similar
Speaker 1: thing where they have happy, happy happy songs that sound happy,
Speaker 1: but then you listen to the lyrics and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is about like getting older, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I love the Beach Boys. Have you seen the movie? Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's about like Ryan Wilson and like how the
Speaker 1: Paul Dana one. Yeah. I liked it a lot because
Speaker 1: like I could kind of relate to it, and I
Speaker 1: kind of like I would understand like why he would
Speaker 1: like feel a certain wave, and like they did a
Speaker 1: really good job at like portraying those things. Um So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a really good movie for you today. Like does
Speaker 1: having a hit song make it easier to write and
Speaker 1: create because you feel more successful, you feel more confident,
Speaker 1: or does it almost get in your head a bit
Speaker 1: and make it harder because you feel like you're trying
Speaker 1: to meet these expectations and all this other stuff. I
Speaker 1: guess just like a little bit of both. But it's
Speaker 1: easier to meet the expectations, I think because like I
Speaker 1: have a lot more resources now than I did. I'm
Speaker 1: not really worried about it. It It doesn't really bother me
Speaker 1: too much. Like I'm glad that falling blew up and
Speaker 1: like helped elevate my career to this point. But um,
Speaker 1: I don't really have that much pressure. I think sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes it'll get to my head, but like ultimately the
Speaker 1: overall feeling it's not that bad. Um, but sometimes I
Speaker 1: will get in my head. I'll just be overly critical
Speaker 1: about certain things. I guess because I want I want
Speaker 1: to keep getting better. Um, when you listen from the
Speaker 1: Homesick EP, a lot of it, like I would do
Speaker 1: like one take or a lot of those things were accidents,
Speaker 1: like the things that came out of it, and that
Speaker 1: EP was a lot of like just kind of discovering
Speaker 1: like how to get better at like certain things and
Speaker 1: like embracing imperfections and everything. Then Restless was kind of
Speaker 1: like really trying to push myself melodically in like different
Speaker 1: styles and stuff. And then Nicotine. I really just wanted
Speaker 1: to take everything I had learned and just put it
Speaker 1: so like I hope, like I'm getting better to the listener,
Speaker 1: but um, it's kind of like a game in my
Speaker 1: own head, just like trying to like balance out like
Speaker 1: a the overall mood. Not I'm not like on the
Speaker 1: here like piste off or anything ever, Like sometimes I
Speaker 1: get piste off. But um, but it's just trying to
Speaker 1: like balance out, like I want to consistently feel like
Speaker 1: this album is where it needs to be when I
Speaker 1: release it, like and that's a hard thing to do
Speaker 1: because like you can always go in and tweak things.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like I learned while making Homesick,
Speaker 1: it's like easy to overthink and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. It's just like trying not to
Speaker 1: let myself be like, Okay, well you have a hit,
Speaker 1: now you have to have another one right now, you know,
Speaker 1: and ultimately just like go make good music and like
Speaker 1: what happens will happen, because following wasn't like I wanted obviously,
Speaker 1: like everybody like wants their song to to be successful
Speaker 1: and everything, but I didn't know that it was going
Speaker 1: to happen the way that it did or when it did,
Speaker 1: because it was like a year later, like I don't
Speaker 1: even know about TikTok. So it's like things will happen
Speaker 1: the way that they're going to happen to. The slow
Speaker 1: Bill almost help you in a way because it kind
Speaker 1: of like pressurized you of that I suppose. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was cool because like I was exposed to like a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff like in doses versus just all at once.
Speaker 1: I still felt like I got a lot all at once,
Speaker 1: um like whenever this happened. But I was like ready
Speaker 1: enough because Falling had like a semi rise and it
Speaker 1: was like doing well, but it was like enough to
Speaker 1: where I was like I would start seeing people react
Speaker 1: to me a little different sometimes, and that I think
Speaker 1: would be the biggest part, because like I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of people get like in their heads about
Speaker 1: themselves and like get cocky or whatever, but like we
Speaker 1: can't be what we are as like artists or whatever,
Speaker 1: Like we can't grow if it's not for the fans,
Speaker 1: so it's not even us. I don't know why people
Speaker 1: get like that, like, but I feel like it's also
Speaker 1: lucky for me that I was like exposed to it
Speaker 1: a little bit out of time, you know, Like none
Speaker 1: of the asks from the label was like very like
Speaker 1: super surprising. There's like some things that were new. But
Speaker 1: what do you do when you're when you're sitting down,
Speaker 1: you have something you want to say in a song,
Speaker 1: you sit down to write it, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: just not happening no matter what you try, especially now
Speaker 1: that you're in quarantine to like how do you reset?
Speaker 1: You go for a walk, do you do some yoga?
Speaker 1: What do you do? Well? Usually I just like go
Speaker 1: like to the beach of the mall, or like go
Speaker 1: do something and go out to eat with my friends,
Speaker 1: or just go go hang out and do stuff you know,
Speaker 1: um and like get out of the house um. Or
Speaker 1: I'll like switch studios, Like I'll go to like my
Speaker 1: friends studio and like make something with them, or I'll
Speaker 1: like collaborate with somebody just like to get fresh ears
Speaker 1: on it. And sometimes it's cool because like if I
Speaker 1: go in with like a another artist or or like
Speaker 1: writer to like write something for somebody else, like and
Speaker 1: like we can collaborate on that. I don't have to
Speaker 1: hold myself back to like certain things that like I
Speaker 1: don't want to say just because they get to say
Speaker 1: it and they're okay with saying certain things like that.
Speaker 1: And like I'm getting to the point where it doesn't
Speaker 1: like I don't really like limit myself anymore, because I
Speaker 1: was noticing that was causing like some writer's block. Sometimes
Speaker 1: ultimately I'll just try to like go right with somebody
Speaker 1: else for something that doesn't really have to do with
Speaker 1: my my music. That helps a lot because it reminds
Speaker 1: me you're just like overthinking, like or just like you
Speaker 1: just need to break. Is that tougher during quarantine? But
Speaker 1: what's the toughest thing about quarantine been for you? I
Speaker 1: guess just like being at the house all the time
Speaker 1: and like not being able to go do stuff. And
Speaker 1: then also like I was supposed to go on tour.
Speaker 1: I really wanted to go on tour, so like, um,
Speaker 1: and I've only been on the country one time and
Speaker 1: that was in January to Berlin, and then I went
Speaker 1: to London and Paris um for like a press run
Speaker 1: and that was really cool. So I got like pretty
Speaker 1: excited to to go on tour. But then the Corona
Speaker 1: thing happened, so at first that was kind of a
Speaker 1: I was really bummed out about it, and I'm like
Speaker 1: bummed out about it still. It sucks, but like what
Speaker 1: is it thirty percent of the country lost their jobs,
Speaker 1: Like there's it's like a crazy amount. So I'm overall
Speaker 1: and like really blessed to like be able to still
Speaker 1: have the option to come in here and record, and
Speaker 1: like I like have to remind myself of that, because yeah,
Speaker 1: I was bummed out about tour because there was a
Speaker 1: lot of places on the list that I've never seen
Speaker 1: and like a lot of fans that I wanted to
Speaker 1: just jam out with and have shows and you know,
Speaker 1: but it's cool. It is what it is. Like there's
Speaker 1: always next year, so you know, maybe there's another few
Speaker 1: in the ball that blow up and then we can
Speaker 1: afford more lights or or something like that. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a very xend way to think of it. It's
Speaker 1: a very most positive reaction I've heard of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you caught me like three months ago, probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been the same. But I've had a lot of
Speaker 1: time to think about that one. But like as far
Speaker 1: as like how to how to like feel about it,
Speaker 1: at first, I was really just like dude, like what
Speaker 1: this sucks? But we at least got to do like
Speaker 1: a couple of shows. We did the New York show,
Speaker 1: in the l A show all the Roxy, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and those both sold out, So like those were those
Speaker 1: were cool because um, like I got to see like
Speaker 1: what it would be and like how I can improve.
Speaker 1: I mean, they best sold out and it was it
Speaker 1: was like fun. We got to experience that and we
Speaker 1: got to know that we could do it. That has
Speaker 1: been a silver lining of quarantine for you if you
Speaker 1: like learn a new skill to the new hobby or
Speaker 1: something like that. I saw you cut your hair that go.
Speaker 1: Is that a new hobby? Oh yeah, Um, I've been
Speaker 1: doing weird stuff to my hair, like, um, so usually
Speaker 1: I just like bleach it blonde. But um, I died
Speaker 1: at teal, which for whatever reason is like the hardest
Speaker 1: color to come out. And there was a video that
Speaker 1: I was supposed to shoot and I shot half of
Speaker 1: it correctly. In the other half I didn't, So I
Speaker 1: had to go like get my hair stripped, like the
Speaker 1: blue stripped out of my hair. Um, and that was
Speaker 1: like fairly expensive because blue is really hard to do.
Speaker 1: And then like they had to come to the house
Speaker 1: because like none of the shops were open. So um
Speaker 1: that was like kind of expensive. But I'll know next
Speaker 1: time to not do my hair blue. Before the videos finished,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I thought, all right, did I read this right?
Speaker 1: Are you working on a book? Are you writing a book? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I am. It's like a poetry book. Cool. It's like
Speaker 1: a mix of poetry and a mix of like some
Speaker 1: pages literally have like one sentence on them. Um, and
Speaker 1: it's just like things that I'll think of, um that
Speaker 1: I'll usually write in my notes, but I started thinking about, like, well,
Speaker 1: I want to see how my mind like reacts to
Speaker 1: being locked in my house for months and like and
Speaker 1: uh so it's like some things are like really depressing.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like I don't overall I feel like
Speaker 1: that like all the time, but like sometimes, like quarantine
Speaker 1: really just brought me in this weird, sad headspace and
Speaker 1: I wrote it, wrote about it in this book, and
Speaker 1: like it's not like a whole lot, but I'll go
Speaker 1: weeks without writing anything, and then I'll like have a
Speaker 1: day where I write like ten pages. Um. But like
Speaker 1: like I said, like some pages have like once in
Speaker 1: and some page pages have like a like a journal
Speaker 1: log on it. That's so cool. I mean you I'll
Speaker 1: just think about I mean, it must be crazy gearing
Speaker 1: up to release your first major label debut anyway, not
Speaker 1: to mention having it come out a week after a
Speaker 1: worldwide global shutdown. You've had one of the craziest years
Speaker 1: of anyone. I could think of. What's been a highlight
Speaker 1: for you of the past year. When we did the
Speaker 1: New York show in the the l A show. Those
Speaker 1: were that was just really fun nights. Like I think
Speaker 1: about those days every single day, Like, and then one
Speaker 1: of my best friends is my drummer, so he's like
Speaker 1: always hanging out and um, he literally hasn't missed the
Speaker 1: day of practicing since like quarantine started. So um, that's
Speaker 1: a high bar for Quarantine productivity right there. I know,
Speaker 1: like he'll like leave my house and then he'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to the rehearsal area, and then it was
Speaker 1: just like practice all the new songs and everything. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I saw that you were on all that not too
Speaker 1: long ago as a as a millennial, like legally obligated
Speaker 1: to ask you about how that was. That sounds so cool. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: it was so fun man, Like, Um, I got this
Speaker 1: nick Pellow and then yeah, they gave me like a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff, like a coffee mug and like
Speaker 1: a really cool all That jacket like it's a bomber
Speaker 1: and then on the back it has the all That
Speaker 1: logo and then um, like on the inside it has
Speaker 1: my name in it. It was super cool, man. I
Speaker 1: was excited. And then performing on it was just crazy
Speaker 1: because like there were people there that I remember like
Speaker 1: doing things at Nickelodeon and like little commercials and stuff.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't that the actors um on the show
Speaker 1: as much as it was like some of the adults
Speaker 1: and things that I would see around that like we're
Speaker 1: kind of instructing things. But do the studios were sick, bro,
Speaker 1: Like they had all the props and stuff. They had
Speaker 1: like a bunch of the Amanda Show props still, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so cool, dude, it was really cool. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I what a crazy year. I what's next
Speaker 1: for you? What's like the next step on your musical
Speaker 1: life after you get the deluxe edition of of Nicotine
Speaker 1: out there? Well, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna put the Deluxe out.
Speaker 1: I don't really have a date. I have like a
Speaker 1: turn in date in my head, which would be the
Speaker 1: end of this month, Like I want to turn it
Speaker 1: in and then like we'll figure out just like how
Speaker 1: we're going to release it and everything. We have a
Speaker 1: single lined up to come out. Other than that, I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of going with the flow, just because, like
Speaker 1: I realized, if I start like okay, cool, I'll be
Speaker 1: able to do shows again in the fall. I thought so,
Speaker 1: But I don't think I will um and that that's
Speaker 1: just like like in my mind if I have like
Speaker 1: multiple letdowns, like way too many times, not like let downs,
Speaker 1: but like if I just like hide myself up in
Speaker 1: my head, like I'll get really into it and I'll
Speaker 1: just like that's what I'll plan um for, like this
Speaker 1: whole year I planned for tour, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to do that again because
Speaker 1: that was like a really bad headspace. Like I just
Speaker 1: like slept for like three weeks, but like and I
Speaker 1: never sleep, so that's that's different. I started a garden
Speaker 1: or I got like a bunch of garden tools that
Speaker 1: I haven't started it yet, but I got a bunch
Speaker 1: of garden tools. I'm like trying to um figure out
Speaker 1: how to do this back patio area that I have
Speaker 1: as a garden, so I could just I could sit
Speaker 1: out there and like because one of my neighbors down
Speaker 1: the street, I'll walk and they have they have like
Speaker 1: a waterfall, like a little it's like a really like
Speaker 1: feels like you would go there to meditate and stuff,
Speaker 1: and like I don't really meditate, but like I want to,
Speaker 1: like I want to like be at peace in my head.
Speaker 1: But um, I figured that's like the first step. Just
Speaker 1: like have a little garden area and just like have
Speaker 1: plants some stuff that I could just chill around and
Speaker 1: just like I feel like that tends to make me
Speaker 1: feel good. So if I if I can get out
Speaker 1: there and do it, like I have the tools now.
Speaker 1: So I went to home Depot when they opened up,
Speaker 1: and like, I felt like a dad, and I tweeted
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm becoming a dad this year because
Speaker 1: like I accidentally sent that to one of my friends
Speaker 1: and she freaked out and I didn't realize. I was
Speaker 1: like writing it the way that I wrote it, because
Speaker 1: you're literally becoming a Yeah. Yeah, So I thought it
Speaker 1: was funny. I thought it was funny, and like I
Speaker 1: posted on Twitter and and all my friends believed it
Speaker 1: for like a week, and I just wanted to see
Speaker 1: how long it would go. And then I had a
Speaker 1: couple of my friends in on it, like some people
Speaker 1: from my label, was like like asking my managers instead.
Speaker 1: It was funny. But well, you got a zend garden
Speaker 1: coming that is awesome. Uh. I know you've been dying
Speaker 1: to collaborate with du Alipa. Is there any movement on
Speaker 1: that yet No, not yet, man, but it's cool, like, uh,
Speaker 1: one day, one day it'll happen. That's like the move
Speaker 1: So as long as like we keep gasing it up
Speaker 1: and like and all the radio interviews and everything, maybe
Speaker 1: she'll hear about it. So I's gonna say, I feel
Speaker 1: like we've all got your back for this. We're all
Speaker 1: gonna put that out there. Do a leap if you're listening, please,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. Yeah, please please do That would
Speaker 1: be really fun. But yeah, she's just got a great
Speaker 1: voice because like she can just her range is insane.
Speaker 1: So well, my my last question, how I close all
Speaker 1: these I gotta ask if you could snap your fingers
Speaker 1: and have the pandemic deal over right now instantly, what
Speaker 1: would will be the first thing that you do? What
Speaker 1: kind of trips would you take people to hug? What
Speaker 1: would you do? First thing I would do, I'd probably
Speaker 1: try to see how we could reschedule tour. Like over
Speaker 1: at dinner, I would probably get like all my managers
Speaker 1: and everything. We'd go out to eat and then oh,
Speaker 1: look there's this place called texast A, Brazil, and it's
Speaker 1: like a fog chow kind of situation. Brazilian steakhouse. I
Speaker 1: love that man, um like I went there the other
Speaker 1: day in Vegas. Actually so so. I did get out
Speaker 1: of the house but finally, but I was wearing a mask.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. Trevor Daniel, thank you so much for your
Speaker 1: time your music has been such a pleasure talking to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, man. I'm glad. I'm glad I was a
Speaker 1: part of this. I'm glad you guys invited me, so
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