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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode to one zero of

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Speaker 1: the Hammer Territory podcast. I am your host, Brad Rowland,

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Speaker 1: coming to you on Thursday afternoon, and normally I am

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Speaker 1: joined by a co host, often let'd say most often

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Speaker 1: by Scott Coleman, but for the intro, I am here

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Speaker 1: by myself. I will have a guest joining me momentarily.

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Speaker 1: It is Gorea Vedak of Battery Power at PHJA Prospects

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Speaker 1: for a really fun chat actually about the Braves Farm

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Speaker 1: system that was recorded last night, So the vibes is

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Speaker 1: a little bit different than it would have been today,

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Speaker 1: but Gore is awesome. That is still relevant right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a well deserved, well needed check in on the

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Speaker 1: minor league system and you want to stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: But the big league club has to take the lead

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Speaker 1: on this podcast. It probably was going to have something

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Speaker 1: of a topper to the show with about what happened

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Speaker 1: today no matter what, but it will be a longer,

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Speaker 1: more detailed, more frustrated, more maddened discussion here at the

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Speaker 1: top of the show because of the all time meltdown catastrophe.

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Speaker 1: Whatever word you want to use, it's probably appropriate for

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Speaker 1: what happened to the Braves on Thursday afternoon and entering today.

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Speaker 1: Before today, Atlanta had already lost ten of the last

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Speaker 1: thirteen games, including the last three games in a row.

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Speaker 1: Vibes were pretty rough around the Braves already. If you

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Speaker 1: are a recurring listener to the show, you already know

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Speaker 1: how we feel about this. If you're a new listener,

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Speaker 1: please subscribe to our podcast. We cover the Braves twelve

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Speaker 1: months a year. We're always here on the podcast. We're

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Speaker 1: on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, etc. Just search Hamber Territory, leave

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Speaker 1: rings and reviews. We definitely appreciate you listening and watching

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Speaker 1: the podcast always, but if you're new, I recommend listening

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Speaker 1: to the shows from Sunday night, Tuesday Night and Wednesday

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Speaker 1: Night with myself and Scott and Sean Coleman Steven Tolbert

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Speaker 1: talking about what's been maddening for the Braves, struggling being

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Speaker 1: unable to score runs. It's been a fluctuation between trying

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Speaker 1: to be level headed and give context like we want

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Speaker 1: to do as a podcast, but also the frustration and

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Speaker 1: the boro line existential crisis stuff of what's going on

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Speaker 1: with the Braves in recent days. But all of that

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Speaker 1: was trumped by what happened today, so Atlanta looked to

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Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon. Now I would have come on the show

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Speaker 1: I just had a harmless end to the game. But

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Speaker 1: that did not happen. They were up, if you miss this, somehow,

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Speaker 1: they were up ten to four in the ninth. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it was ten to four with one out in the

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Speaker 1: ninth Inny. So all the Braves had to do was

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Speaker 1: and they failed to do that with their bullpen. And

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Speaker 1: it's just an unbelievable set of events. I'll talk about

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Speaker 1: this probably again later in this discussion. But the Braves,

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Speaker 1: according to the people at ESPN Analytics, which are not infallible,

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Speaker 1: but they have a win probability kind of graphic play

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Speaker 1: by a play, pitch by pitch, and they were giving

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Speaker 1: the Braves a ninety nine point nine percent chance to

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Speaker 1: win this game. And that isn't one hundred And we

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Speaker 1: saw that on Thursday afternoon, so before the meltdown and

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Speaker 1: the complete meltdown that it was I would have told you,

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Speaker 1: and this is still true now that the offense actually

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Speaker 1: all know that the pitching staff today, notwithstanding, has been

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Speaker 1: good enough. It hasn't been elite, but it's been good

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Speaker 1: enough a lot of the season. The offense decided to

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Speaker 1: have a good game today. They scored ten runs. Everyone

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Speaker 1: the pitching has been better this season than the offense

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Speaker 1: by a lot. That was not the case today. Now

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Speaker 1: I will say they got through seven innings allowing three

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Speaker 1: like Scott Blewett Number one the Joe, write themselves today

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Speaker 1: again ninety nine point nine percent win probability. After blew

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Speaker 1: here and say Scott blew. It was bad in this game.

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Speaker 1: It was a disaster. But when he left the when

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Speaker 1: They were no longer ninety nine percent favorites by any means,

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Speaker 1: We know that already, but it got worse today. Just

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Speaker 1: I won't, won't We cut every pitch, but immediately a double,

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Speaker 1: and it's eleven to ten. It's that simple. Now, if

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Speaker 1: as soon as the second home run happens against Blewett,

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Speaker 1: The Braves actually bleue a ten to four lead with

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Speaker 1: For people I totally understand that I would probably do

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Speaker 1: Braves in the last seven years. Now. Obviously there are

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Speaker 1: The Braves are zero and three since then, with two

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Speaker 1: unbelievably maddening losses like Wednesday's loss looks quaint now compared

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't this. This is way worse than that.

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Speaker 1: this way. I mean, I'm out of things to say

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Speaker 1: at this moment in time. It's an absolutely hideous result.

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Speaker 1: The Braves, as I'm speaking to you right now, are

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Speaker 1: two games behind the Nationals in the standings with one

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Speaker 1: looking at the current wild card standings right now, and

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Speaker 1: And it's June fifth, So hideous vibes. Everyone's maddened. I

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Speaker 1: mean today it speaks for itself, quite honestly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: So from here, the Braves are going to San Francisco

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Speaker 2: and years before, it is I had a hard time

430
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Speaker 2: coming up with my top thirty. I put together a

431
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Speaker 2: list two weeks back. It's not due until July because

432
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Speaker 2: I know I'm going to be changing it. So it's

433
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Speaker 2: a really good place for the braves to be in

434
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Speaker 2: right now and especially the past like year year and

435
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Speaker 2: a half, we're seeing a lot of higher end talent

436
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: that there took wild cards on just to take chances.

437
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Speaker 2: But the player development has been obscene. It's been fantastic,

438
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: and honestly, it's making me a lot more invigorated about

439
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Speaker 2: watching minor league baseball on a day to day basis.

440
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Speaker 1: No, that makes perfect sense, honestly, and look, I always

441
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Speaker 1: admit I'll do it again now like this is not

442
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Speaker 1: my strength. You watch a ton more prospects, the guys.

443
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Speaker 1: This is why you're on the show. I'm not an

444
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Speaker 1: expert on this. Neither is Scott, neither of Steven me

445
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Speaker 1: Rid Seawan, but I'm that kind of goes with what

446
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Speaker 1: I've been reading number one from you and your colleagues

447
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Speaker 1: and Battery of Power and also listening to your podcast

448
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Speaker 1: all these things. But I got a little literally today.

449
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't, I didn't. I didn't tell you

450
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Speaker 1: this ahead of time. We got a question today to

451
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Speaker 1: the Hambith Territory account that was basically like, hey, what's

452
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Speaker 1: up with all the position players in the system, Because

453
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: I think people are probably again not intentionally, but like, hey,

454
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Speaker 1: thinking about the future war right now, because the manage

455
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: teams are doing very well and look a lot of

456
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Speaker 1: the more prominent for lack of a paric term, famous

457
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: prospects in the system are either pitchers or they're honestly

458
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Speaker 1: the two, like two of the the only two position

459
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Speaker 1: players that were like near the top of the preseason

460
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Speaker 1: lists were Drake Baldwin, who obviously has graduated and we

461
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Speaker 1: all know him now, and the Nacho Alvarez has been hurt.

462
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Speaker 1: And almost everybody else in like top fives that I

463
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: saw were pictures and top tens with very pitcher heavy

464
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: and guys that we know and as we know from

465
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Speaker 1: wall Drop to Camaniti to you know, Owen Murphy, all

466
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Speaker 1: the guys, and we'll then we'll talk about and you know,

467
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: I've read stuff. But also like it's encouraging to me

468
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Speaker 1: to hear what you said about them being in the

469
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Speaker 1: lower levels. I would always encourage people like I know,

470
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Speaker 1: Guenette's like the closest things that you probably don't want

471
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Speaker 1: to watch if you have one, if you have room

472
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Speaker 1: for one watching experience and prospects probably shouldn't be Gwinette.

473
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Speaker 1: I tell myself that too, Like you know, because Genet

474
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Speaker 1: I look, I live in I grew up in Gwinnett County,

475
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Speaker 1: like Gwnett's like Fly down the Street team. But if

476
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Speaker 1: you're looking for prospect viewing, that's probably not the one

477
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Speaker 1: of the system to watch. But no, I'm intrigued by that,

478
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: and I think people are wondering about the Fisher players

479
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: because pitching is volatile. We all know that famously. This

480
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: is a Braves team that started the rebuild looking for

481
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Speaker 1: pitching and then ended up with a bunch of position players.

482
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Speaker 1: It's just very interesting how things work. And pittings more

483
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: about kind always been more about bollatile and always will

484
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Speaker 1: be more volatile. So having that kind of next wave,

485
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: hopefully position players, is pretty exciting.

486
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Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, right now, June fourth, I have

487
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: ten positional prospects in my top thirty. Now it could change, yeah,

488
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: but ten as opposed to I think maybe three and

489
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Speaker 2: in years past. And you know, not to not to

490
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Speaker 2: tease too much, but everything I've heard about Diego torns

491
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Speaker 2: down in the Dominican Summer League season just started on Monday,

492
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Speaker 2: but from what I've heard in the off season, like

493
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Speaker 2: he's someone that we really, really really want to watch closely.

494
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Speaker 1: Not to make you give away all of the list

495
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Speaker 1: that's gonna come out at some point this summer. I

496
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Speaker 1: know you enough to know you probably have like a

497
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Speaker 1: guy or two that you love on the diship player side.

498
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Speaker 1: Is there a guy that you're falling in love with,

499
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe more than anybody else's for perhaps it could

500
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Speaker 1: be it could be the trending guy too. That's that's

501
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: totally fine, but not to break up his name and

502
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about it maybe later. Is I know you

503
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Speaker 1: were like the smith Shavor guy this spring and that

504
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: was actually looking really good quietly until what happened happened.

505
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Speaker 1: But do you have like a guy that you're loving

506
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Speaker 1: or maybe two guys that you're loving or no.

507
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Speaker 2: Like positional prospects.

508
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, while we're here, I will.

509
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Speaker 2: Say I do want to I do want to guess up.

510
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: Ambioris a little bit. You look at the box four,

511
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: you look at his stats, and maybe they don't jump

512
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 2: out at the page at you, uh, but we are

513
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: seeing him start to develop more of that game power.

514
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: He's got good raw power for short, he's got really

515
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: good raw power a short, but we're seeing him start

516
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: to translate out into game power. We're seeing him being

517
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 2: a tad bit more aggressive if you go through some

518
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: of a lot, more of his hits itself have come

519
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: on like the first and third pitches somewhere around there.

520
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: And as a result, he's becoming this like really intriguing

521
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: positional prospects in that when Garrett and I and Brave,

522
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Speaker 2: he's Braves m iob on Twitter. When Gary and I

523
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: were talking about him just last week. One player that

524
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Speaker 2: first really stood out to us in terms of like

525
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Speaker 2: a comparison was Chris Taylor from the Dodgers, and we

526
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Speaker 2: looked at his advanced stats when he was in the

527
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: minors and they are, honestly, they're pretty similar. And when

528
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Speaker 2: it comes to Davares, he is an elite defender at

529
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Speaker 2: both second and short. So when you add in plus

530
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Speaker 2: defense at those two positions, and then a player that's

531
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Speaker 2: able to hit the ball, you know, maybe like two

532
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: fifty to two sixty, clip won't be walking a ton.

533
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: He'll walk about actually nonem we take that back. He'll

534
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: walk like eight percent, eight to ten percent, but it'll

535
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 2: strike out a ton. But also now he's developing that

536
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: power like that is a top bend shortstop. If if

537
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: we're talking Major League Baseball, and so like you look

538
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: at the numbers right now and you're like, you know,

539
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: seven fifty oh ps. That doesn't really show me anything.

540
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: Don't always just look at the numbers, like seriously, you

541
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: got it. You guys gotta go in and watch watch

542
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 2: them play it. Watch them at bats. Who cares they

543
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: can hit a home run, it doesn't matter. But if

544
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: they're laying off breaking pitches, if they're able to recognize

545
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: breaking pitches, if they're able to stop their swinging on

546
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: the you know, if they're able to do zone recognition,

547
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: like these are the biggest things. Numbers don't matter that much.

548
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: And while they are the highest indicator of how good

549
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: a player is, it's just when you that much younger,

550
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: as it will use Tavars in this example, will just

551
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: continue to use him. You know. He he's had three

552
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: seasons cut short with injury. He hasn't had a lot

553
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: of game reps. So being able to make those adjustments

554
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: and showing that kind of adjustments that quickly like that,

555
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: that speaks a lot to him about what he does

556
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: during the game, what he does outside of the game.

557
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: So he's one that I'm probably a little more high

558
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: on than than other people. And then one that's like

559
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: really really easy because I've I've been talking a lot

560
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: to some international scouts and Diego Torrents, Like everything I've

561
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: heard about him at sixteen years old, I was, can

562
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Speaker 2: I can I can I call myself a dumbass on

563
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Speaker 2: the show?

564
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, at sixteen hours, you just did. So it's

565
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: fun at sixteen.

566
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 2: Hours a dumbass driving to Walmart after practice. He is

567
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: showing up before in games, he's getting in work, he's

568
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: talking to coaches, he's talking to other players, and every

569
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: single time you hear what coaches have to say it

570
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: about him, like you're talking about quality at bats, recognizing

571
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: breaking pitches, something that you don't do at sixteen. You

572
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: at sixteen you see a fast ball and you hit it,

573
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: and that pretty much makes you approve of like a

574
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: premium top prospect. Right So him doing that at that

575
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: young is like a serious green flag to the point

576
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: that right now I'm like, I honestly can't wait for

577
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: him to come stateside because I think next year he

578
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: might be you know, top three for me.

579
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: And yeah, a you know, people who don't know who

580
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: he is, he was the guy I think he got

581
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: like two and a half million in the international. He

582
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: was the biggest pool guy they got this last class.

583
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: Is that correct? I could be wrong because I'm bad

584
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: at this stuff, but I think that's time we got it.

585
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: He was the one guy could probably name from the

586
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: international class if we're being one hundred percent honest. So no,

587
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: that's that's that's excited that he's looking the part as

588
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: someone always hearing, hearing the work, that he's looking the

589
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: part as the guy who was the big ticket acquisition

590
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: in the international class. I do want to ask about

591
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: some pictures, and we'll get to that in just a second,

592
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640
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Speaker 1: All right, we could dive back in. I'm not trying

610
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: to do this to tease you or make you relive

611
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: this again, but you were the Smith shav Er guy

612
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: in the spring. It looked awesome. I was encouraged by that. Obviously.

613
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: We hope it gets back soon quickly, because I know

614
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: you were in on him, and doesn't mean you wouldn't be.

615
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: Now he's gonna be hurt for a while, but he'll

616
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Speaker 1: be back. Was that what you think? What you thought

617
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: you were gonna see from ads Bashav until he went down?

618
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: What you expect because you were obviously again you're high.

619
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Speaker 1: I'm on this show at the places.

620
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Speaker 2: I was, I was definitely hot on him. Yeah, I

621
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: think we I have still seen a small glimpse of

622
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: what he can do. He still gets really excited during games,

623
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: and he can get super frustrated, and then you start

624
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: start seeing him overthrow pitches and everything's going glove side,

625
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: and then it just becomes repeating, repeating, repeating, So like

626
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: he still has some work that he can do to

627
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: just kind of just remember who he is and how

628
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: freaking good he is and how talented he is and

629
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: just trust this stuff. No, I think I still think

630
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: this guy is a limit for him. And everything i've

631
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: you know, I've been able to interact with his parents

632
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: on social media. I know what kind of family they have.

633
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: They're going to do everything they can to make sure

634
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: he's one hundred percent right physically and mentally, and honestly,

635
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm not even remotely worried. You think about someone that

636
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: has stormed onto the scene this year and everyone was

637
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: talking about, you know what, his Rookie of the year odds,

638
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: and to have an injury like that is absolutely devastating,

639
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: especially after last year he had the oblique issue, and

640
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: you used to injuries start to mount and frustration mounts,

641
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: and then you know, you don't know what's gonna happen then.

642
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: But I think he's got the right head on his shoulders.

643
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: I think he'll just put in the time and we'll see.

644
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: I still think this guy is a limit.

645
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: For him, and I know, you know it's but like

646
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: it's not it's not good. I was. No one's saying

647
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: it's good. But it's not a death sentence like it's

648
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: it's it's an elbow. A lot a lot of guys.

649
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you might even know a percentage. I don't,

650
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: but like a lot of pitching prospects, pitchers in general,

651
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: have to have this injury at some point. It just

652
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: it just tends to happen, guys.

653
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: Human bodies aren't supposed to do right.

654
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: Guys blow out And he's still he's super young, is

655
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: twenty two years old. I've encouraged why what I saw

656
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: and hopefully in a year we'll talk about him again,

657
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: and you know, all all systems firing there. Look, it's

658
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: kind of transition point. But between that injury and of

659
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: course right on a Lopez at the majory level still

660
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: being out for a while longer. We've been talking recently

661
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: on our show about like how thin rotation is if

662
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: anything else happens to anybody, and that includes Bryce Eller,

663
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: who was even supposed to be there all these things,

664
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 1: and were getting questions about, like, Okay, what happens if

665
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: you get another in like who will be the next

666
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: man up? What's the state of like if they have

667
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: to throw some guys on the measure league club. And

668
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: that's not not all about what minor league prospects scouting

669
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: is about. It's about future stuff too. But in the

670
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: short term, if they are competing again, I guess that's

671
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: an if now, which is wild to say out loud,

672
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: but if they are competing the rest of the season,

673
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: and it can be bullpen names like is there anybody

674
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: that you like in the higher levels of the system

675
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: that like not to be Schwellen back level? But if

676
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: they have to have the call this year, if they

677
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: just need depth or need arms of the bullpen, who's

678
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: on your list? It is like obviously Waldrof spent up before.

679
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: He's probably the most prominent famous name of these guys.

680
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: But if the Braves have to dip into the miners,

681
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: who are you kind of highlighting for that?

682
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: When it comes to pitching, the brains have done a

683
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: great job just acquiring a large amount of arms that

684
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: have that, you know, potential. Uh, if we're talking straight bullpen,

685
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: you have someone like Domingo Gonzalez who is for seeing

686
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: slider kick change. The main issue with him during the

687
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: beginning of the season was he kept throwing his fast

688
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: ball a little bit too high and not too high,

689
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: but I had too much movement on it, which is

690
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: crazy to think, but it was sinking down back into

691
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: the zone and they've been working on making it a

692
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: little bit flatter and as a result, he started to

693
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: take off the season. He's a candidate for the bullpen

694
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: rolling Munz Munoz, who's also on the forty man roster.

695
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: We're seeing an uptick in command for him. He's foreseeing

696
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: to seem slider change up. His biggest thing right now

697
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: is keeping the ball in that upper third as well.

698
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: That's like the main Let me just go ahead and

699
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: prefaces by saying, pretty much everyone I'm talking about coming.

700
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: The main issue right now has been working on that

701
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 2: upper third, which is a really difficult thing to do,

702
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: being able to attack hitters up high and get the

703
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: ball by them. So that he's also working on that.

704
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: You have someone like gian Carlos Lara who hit one

705
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: oh three on the radar gun yesterday. His biggest issue

706
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: has always been command, but we're seeing a small upticking

707
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: command there. I really want to see him be to

708
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: throw that slider more tour even more away from right

709
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: handed hitters right now he's trying to throw it a

710
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 2: little too far in and as a result, he starts

711
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: to work a little faster, actually not faster, but he

712
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: loses the mechanics a little bit and is time to home,

713
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: which is really weird. Changes quite a bit when he

714
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: gets a little anxious. So that's something that they're working on.

715
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: It to be cognizant of Hayden Harris. Everyone's talking about

716
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: his his era, what he's doing over in Columbus. He's

717
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: got that insane forcing fastball that comes in at ninety

718
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 2: one to ninety two, but it's got that vertical approach

719
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: angle that makes it have a forty five percent with rate.

720
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: His biggest concern has been that slider splitter. It's starting

721
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: to get better. He's starting to keep fatters more honest.

722
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: So he's another person that could be of interest in

723
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: the bullpen. Dylan Dodd is another one that reinvented himself

724
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: with the cutter. That cutter has helped him tremendously. He's

725
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: able to throw it all parts of the plate. So

726
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: he's another person that's that could you know, you want

727
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: to see him, he's got starting experience. I would prefer

728
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: to see him in the in the in the bullpen.

729
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: Because he's found success there, I think it's paramount to

730
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: just keep that going. If we need a starter, you

731
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: have someone like Blake Bergholter, who is obviously he's just

732
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: a few years removed from college. That cutter is living

733
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: up to exactly what we expected that as a pure

734
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: plus pitch. He's working on a kick change too. That's

735
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: the new big wave, that kick change, and it's uh,

736
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: he's using that grip now and it's it's becoming successful

737
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: for him. He's another option in the in the rotation.

738
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: I got two more names for you bullpen, going back

739
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: to both bullpen. You got Ellison Joseph down in Columbus

740
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: ninety three, ninety seven with his fastball. His big thing

741
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: has been a slighter shape that's showing massive improvement over

742
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: the past couple of weeks. So another person that could

743
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: find himself in Atlanta over the next couple of months.

744
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: And then lastly is a is a complete long shot.

745
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: But we've seen the Braves that when they find a

746
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: player that they like and they're that's on their list,

747
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: they will do whatever they can if he if they

748
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: show the slightest inclination that they can succeed, they'll they'll

749
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: push him up. And that name is de or flintis

750
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: at nineteen. Again, he's nineteen, Like, let's let's say that

751
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: I don't see it happening, but he's nineteen. He has

752
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 2: shown okay basketball nineteen ninety seven, splier seventy eight, eighty three,

753
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: and then his splitter eighty five A. So those differentials

754
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: and pitch types, different differentials in pitch velocity. His biggest

755
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: thing is Kenny get that ball high in the upper third.

756
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: The past couple of weeks he has so he's able

757
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: to command three pitches with really good command to all

758
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: parts of the zone. That's not something you see some

759
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: pitcher do period. You really don't see it a nineteen

760
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: year old. And that's why his stock has absolutely skyrocket

761
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: and that's why the brains are so aggressive with him

762
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: and moving up up to Columbus. He still has got

763
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: work to do. But like in that oh no scenario, like,

764
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: don't be surprised that he's obviously a big you know,

765
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: he's made a name for himself in the organization and

766
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: someone that the that the front office is watching, so like,

767
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: don't be too surprised if something like that were to happen,

768
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: but like, I don't really expect it.

769
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's actually funny. I had a Hitten Harrison

770
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: list to ask you about because he's twenty six years

771
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: old and he's in he's in double as put up

772
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: these great numbers and it looks great, and guys like

773
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: you have it's not just numbers. Like again, I have

774
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: to box for stout some because I'm not I'm not

775
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: watching these guys like you are, which is that's why

776
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: I raise my hand and say that. But I was like, whoa,

777
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: this guy's got some stuff going on. And then you

778
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: have a nineteen year old on the same on the

779
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: same team, like and these seven years apart, it could

780
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: be more different, and that's part of the fun of

781
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: baseball in a lot of ways. But that was on

782
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: my list, and man, night, like you said, it seems

783
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: far fetched that a nineteen year old would be there,

784
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: But wasn't he like a top fifteen guy coming into

785
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: the season, even like as far as your system is concerned,

786
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: maybe I'll oh, for sure, Yeah, yeah, so he's a

787
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: he's a real prospect. The nineteen year old point says

788
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: so interesting to say the least, I I have to

789
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: ask you about Waldrop because he's they got people know

790
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: and the guy that we've seen, the numbers are not

791
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: pretty this year, tons of walks. Kind of the same

792
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: concerns again on the buck score that we had in

793
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: the past, But you've actually watched him more than I have.

794
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: Is he any work close? Like if again, could he

795
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: be in the mix that they need him or they

796
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: still try to work some stuff out. I know there's

797
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: there was obviously some overhauling to do with him, but

798
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: you know this first round picks, who especially were big names,

799
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: like people like where's this guy? They're looking at their watch, like,

800
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: all right, where's where's Walter? What's going on?

801
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: I am like absolutely thrilled to say something positive about

802
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: him because I feel like I've been like so mean

803
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: and I don't want to be right, Like a player

804
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: evaluation and player projection is really hard to do and

805
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: you don't want to be liken this guy sucks, right,

806
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: But like you can take those few games at the

807
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: start of the season and just like literally throw them away.

808
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: He has completely overhauled his mechanics. What he's done is

809
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: he's he's lowered his leg lift. It used to come

810
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: all the way up towards his kneet and towards his gin. Sorry,

811
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: now he keeps it more towards his waist. That when

812
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: that's happened, when he finishes his delivery, he's squared towards

813
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: the plate. What it was before is he used to

814
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: be falling off the mound towards the first pace side.

815
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Now he's squared towards the plate. And what that what

816
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: that's resulted in is a lot better command in his fastball.

817
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: What that has done for him is the past year

818
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: or two, hitters have been able to not even have

819
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: to worry about his fastball. That thing was going to

820
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: go here and here and here and here. They sit Splitter,

821
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: there they sit Slider, and they're able to adjust to

822
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: the fastball. With him being able to command that pitch

823
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: and being able to at least locate it, you know,

824
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: in the and the upper thirds and the lower thirds,

825
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 2: it does not be cognizant of ninety five. As a result,

826
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: that slider is now seemingly a lot slower, That splitter

827
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: is a lot more dynamic, and we're seeing him go

828
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: from five to six whiffs the game toward to towards

829
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty a game, and while I don't think

830
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: he's like quite there, because he can still speed up

831
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: just a little bit, especially later in the game when

832
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: someone gets on you're seeing him, you're seeing a picture

833
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: like really take stock in who he is and evolve

834
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: right in front of your eyes. And it's it's honestly

835
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: really freaking cool to watch because like, it's not easy. Hey,

836
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: this is what you've been doing your entire life. We're

837
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: gonna change it and you're just gonna have to deal

838
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: with it. And like it speaks to him his character too,

839
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: to be able to be like, all right, I need

840
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: to make these changes. And he's able to do it

841
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: in a season during games, and it's not something that

842
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: they worked on before the season. This is something that

843
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: they saw in like week four and we're like, hey,

844
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: let's make that change right now. He had I think

845
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: it was like two side sessions with the abbreviated abbreviated

846
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: wind up and he put into a game and now

847
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: it's part of who he is. And as a result,

848
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: we were seeing again more of his his whift rates

849
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: gone up. He'll still struggle up runs a little more

850
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: like three to four game. I don't care like him

851
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: being able to repeat this and show, and and and

852
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: like just prove that he is worthy of his raft

853
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: slot and that he's not just some like flash in

854
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: the pan. That's really exciting. And he went from someone

855
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: that I had towards the back half of my twenty

856
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: which thinks like absolutely bananas to even think about. Yeah,

857
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: that's not a thing anymore. I really am a big

858
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: fan of his adjustments that he's made. And while he

859
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: might not have that you know, a upside that so

860
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: many people want. I think he's now a major league pitcher,

861
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: which is not something I had thought of him last year.

862
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: Well, and yeah, I mean there's always been the thought too,

863
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: because then he guys, especially because I think because he

864
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: debuted already at the major league level, people thought that

865
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: he was close to the ideas. That's just natural. I mean,

866
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: I think if you're going from up myself in that

867
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: category of like, if you're mostly a major league watcher

868
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: in this first round pick, guy you know the name

869
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: of debuts in twenty four, like you're thinking, hey, he

870
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: might be back soon, you know what I mean. When

871
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: he goes back down, you're assume he's gonna be back soon.

872
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: And I'm glad to hear that optimism because I'm not

873
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: trying to put you in a bad spot to be negative.

874
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: We don't have to be negative on this podcast, but

875
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: it's good. It's good to be a little We're allowed

876
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: to be positive sometimes on the show. I have to

877
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: ask you. This is kind of you probably already answered

878
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: to some degree, but I was gonna ask you, like,

879
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: guys who have changed their standing in your mind over

880
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: the last two months. Maybe it's Walter, I mean, you

881
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: just talked about that, but like, it's only been two months.

882
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: I understand how much small civil sized that action that

883
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: actually is, but it's almost that sounds crazy and maybe

884
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: you can correct me. I feel like two months in

885
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: the minors is worth more than two months in the

886
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: majors in some respects, like you can kind of learn more.

887
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: But even if I'm wrong about that, Like, who's changed

888
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: your mind? Is there an example of that or two?

889
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: And honestly, it could be negative if you wanted to

890
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: be too, but I was thinking positive. But hey, if

891
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: it's somebody that's like, hey, you're that you're worried about,

892
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: feel free to show that as well.

893
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: I think Harrison Waldrop is obviously at the top of

894
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: that list because he made himself back into like a

895
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: starting pitching prospect. First seat, I thought he was gonna

896
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: be more of a reliever that relies on high velocity splitter.

897
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: But like now he's a pitcher, and that's exciting to see,

898
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: you know, some one player I wouldn't I wouldn't say

899
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: that I was like low on them, but they weren't

900
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: just really raw and you didn't know, like you really

901
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: just didn't know if he was gonna hit mess And

902
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: that was Isaiah Drake, And like he was drafted as

903
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: a just a complete wildcard we don't need. Pure athlete,

904
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: does great arm, amazing speed, one of the fast I've

905
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: ever watched in my life, amazing speed, but we're like,

906
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: could he hit? Could he do any of this? Like

907
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: we don't know, And the amount of change I've seen

908
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: in him in one season has been like okay, no,

909
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: Like not only is he a legitimate baseball prospect, like

910
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: he might turn himself into one of the best positional

911
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: prospects for the Braves. And it's really early. Again, he's

912
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: still super early in his development. I think he's nineteen

913
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: or maybe twenty at right now, but like even then,

914
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: like he's pretty new to baseball. New to this level

915
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: of coaching, new to like this subtle dedication, and he's

916
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: taken massive jumps forward, and honestly, I've been you know,

917
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: I have been wildly impressed. I thought he's someone that

918
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: you would pop up on lists, you know, when he's

919
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: like twenty two or twenty three, things start to click.

920
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: But now you're seeing a player that like, okay, maybe

921
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: this is the brain's got something. You're seeing adjustments day

922
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: in and day out, which is crazy, especially at his age.

923
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: Another player like I already talked positivity about him, But

924
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: John Eel is another one where like you saw the

925
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: double plus speed, you saw the great arm, but he's

926
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: looking like he can stay as short, he's looking like

927
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: he can recognize breaking pitches, he has a developing hit sole,

928
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: he's got great power for short. Now your mind begins

929
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: to wonder, like what kind of upside does he have?

930
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: And like coming into this year, those two players complete

931
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: wild cards into being able to like talk about, all right,

932
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: what's their high end? Like it's actually starting to get

933
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: really excited and it's really cool to see players like

934
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: that evolve right in front of you, and like it's

935
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 2: not something you see at the very start of the season,

936
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: but you see developing as they get more and more

937
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: playing time, as they work more and more and more

938
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: with their coaches. I have to say the Augusta staff, like,

939
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: whatever they got Ruben Gottai, they got I think his

940
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: Garret's name is Garrett Wilkinson. Those guys are cooking with fire,

941
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: and uh, it's it's important. I would I just want

942
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: to see these core coaches stay in this organization because

943
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: you're seeing a very very very quick turnaround in terms

944
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: of player progression and player development. I would say the

945
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: Brave struggled with this the past few years. The past

946
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: season and a half is completely different, and it's exciting,

947
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: Like you don't know what's going to happen to these players,

948
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: like now, players on the fringe, on the outside, like

949
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: a junior Garcia, Like, let's get him to a gustle,

950
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: Let's get him with those coaches. Let's see what actually

951
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: can happen to them. So like it's I would say,

952
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: those two are I think have helped the most with

953
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: their stock. Ones that haven't. I'm not necessarily down on

954
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: Lucas Braun, but he had a great twenty twenty four

955
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: and right now he's just having command with all of

956
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 2: his pitches, like it it's gonna happen. That's pitching is heart,

957
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: so it's gonna happen. And then the other person is

958
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: uh Is Luis Kwanet. But like, unfortunately for him, he

959
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: got he broke his hand, he got hit in the

960
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: risks by a fast law and like you can't, like

961
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do about that. But as a result,

962
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: he coming off a down year, he's losing so much

963
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: time in his and his development cycle. And like it's

964
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: hard when a prospect that comes in with that much punch.

965
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: You know, he's supposed to be great hit tool premier

966
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: athletes staying in center and now his stock started, it

967
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 2: takes a hit and now he's out with an injury

968
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: for a long time. How is he gonna respond? How

969
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: are you gonna come back from a hand injury too?

970
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: Like as a positional prospect, it's it's so difficult a

971
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: hand and wrisk, so like it's tough to say, like

972
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: I'm not like, oh he's off my top thirty or

973
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: anything like that, but I used to hope that he

974
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: would be in the top two, top three. I don't

975
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: see him there anymore. And he's gonna, unfortunately, have to

976
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 2: show like a lot more to be able to earn

977
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: that back, because being able to come back from that

978
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: kind of injury is going to be very difficult.

979
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: I remember, not that we're about to do this again.

980
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but I remember during the rebuild,

981
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: like spending a lot higher percentage of my time following

982
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: minor league stuff for obvious reasons. Like we're talking, We're

983
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: just talking about it more all the time, and I uh,

984
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm trying to get back into it more.

985
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: Like you know this, we joked about it earlier. But

986
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: I do cover basketball, I do other things, and it's

987
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: like I have to find time to watch some of

988
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: these guys that I'm intrigued by. I have to adopt

989
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: the prospect too. At times in the past, I've kind

990
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: of maybe tongue in cheek, but like I've had like

991
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: my guy system that I was like funny about but

992
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: also loved. Like I was I was the twoky guy

993
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: back in the day. I loved. It didn't work out

994
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: for me, unfortunately. Ah, he still getting around, He's he's around,

995
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: but it didn't work out for me.

996
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

997
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: At some point, I'm gonna have to get your pick

998
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: your brain about who my guy should be because I

999
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: have to like adopt someone and I'm not smart enough

1000
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: to know who it's gonna be.

1001
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: So it's like, and what I do, Just do what

1002
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: I did my guy this year? Owen carry watch him?

1003
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: Okay, of.

1004
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: Dude, you have too much going on. Just watches that bath.

1005
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: Look at what he does. Look at his pitch recognition.

1006
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: Look how he hits for really good power at his age.

1007
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: Like you'll be You'll be extremely happy.

1008
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: All right. Oh and we talked about a little bit earlier.

1009
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: But I don't want to get away without asking this

1010
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: question because of again how thin it is. I know

1011
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: we asked this question kind of before. If I tell

1012
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: you that Bryce Elder gets a blister and he has

1013
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: to miss two weeks and the bravest and a starting pitcher,

1014
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: who would you want in the entire minor league system

1015
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: to start those two or three games in like a month, like,

1016
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: knowing that this could happen next week. I'm not saying

1017
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. Is there anybody? I mean, it

1018
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: could be a boring guy too, could be somebody in

1019
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: Triple A, and it's not good. Whatever it is, Who

1020
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: would you want to see both like in your in

1021
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: your soul, in your soul and also with your head.

1022
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: You give me two answers if you want to, like.

1023
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, it's going to be Richie

1024
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: Ritchie with the commands for Richie pure arm, talent. Okay,

1025
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 2: those are my soul.

1026
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Richie's a guy that it's been on

1027
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: the Reddit for a long time. I think he's twenty

1028
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: one by me twenty two something like that. I mean,

1029
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: a real guy. He's in Columbus right now. Like that's

1030
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: a that's a realistic name, I know, but culture is

1031
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: like the one that I always hear is like the

1032
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: polished guy. But he's also older. Is he twenty four

1033
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: to twenty five?

1034
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: Like he's got a college twenty three, played at Auburn

1035
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: and really like it's been I really didn't think he

1036
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: was a starting pitching prospect, and then he's shown his

1037
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: secondary he's taking a massive step forward. I think he's

1038
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: obviously a candidate for that role. But again he's on

1039
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: on the forty man, so that goes a little against him.

1040
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: If I had to choose one that's already on the

1041
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: forty man, that's not Bryce Elder. I'd probably go David Daniels.

1042
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Actually I was gonna ask you because he's

1043
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: not you know, the word prospect is probably not but

1044
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: he's twenty seven.

1045
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, prospect, he's league. He's just like a pitcher.

1046
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was eligible for this. He's in the minor league.

1047
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: He's not on a forty man that's actually good. That's

1048
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: actually a good point. And he's a guy that I

1049
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: have seen pitch, which is more than I could say

1050
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: for a lot of guys we discussed today. Okay, that

1051
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: that that qualified. I was looking at the Viral League,

1052
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: the league I look at the forty man roster. Yeah,

1053
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: I mean you got Michael Peterson, Uh, Nathan will Yeah,

1054
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: they're not that many excitingnagames.

1055
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: Nathan Wilds and David daniel that I think are going

1056
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 2: to be like the top two candidates because like.

1057
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: The NiFe starters.

1058
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they both can survive in the majors, right,

1059
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: Like there's no doubt about it. But like, are they

1060
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: going to inspire you? Are they gonna make you like

1061
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: want to watch like Toronto team so much? Yeah, like

1062
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: five innings pitch, three runs?

1063
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: Are they a couple? Okay, this is gonna be It's

1064
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna sound funny, are they the twenty twenty five version

1065
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: of Alan Winnen's is that is that?

1066
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: Is that?

1067
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: The computing it? Yeah, like I might see them start

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00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: a couple of games but not exciting anybody, and hopefully

1069
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: get some outs. And that's fine, Okay. I just wanted

1070
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: to gaze because again, I don't I'm not trying to

1071
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: wish that anybody, but I think there's a pretty decent

1072
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: chance that someone is not someone's gonna have to make

1073
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: a start at some point. Well hopefully Lowpies comes back,

1074
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of uncertainty there. We don't. Yeah,

1075
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: no more jinksing, I'm gonna stop talking about us now.

1076
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: But it's it's a it's a it's a concern that

1077
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: I have and look to end this on a high note.

1078
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: He's no longer really a prospect, but Drake Balwin looks

1079
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: freaking awesome, man, And I want to make sure we

1080
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: can talk about that for a second, because you were

1081
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: stolen the versuses of Drake ball when in February when

1082
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: we talked, that wasn't a huge surprise he was the

1083
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: number one guy, but man, uh I and this is

1084
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: kind of maybe goes against prospect. There's always a little

1085
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: bit of a tinge of like I gotta see it

1086
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: with almost anybody, Like I'm just like Scale, I played

1087
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: the percentages. It's not like a good It's just I'm

1088
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: a skeptic until I actually see it. And Ball when

1089
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: I was buying I was buying it, and you mentioned

1090
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: the quality of that bats earlier. It's about more than

1091
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: just the numbers. His numbers look awesome for me, Like

1092
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: even the first two weeks he came up, you're watching

1093
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: every plate appearance with a little bit more were emphasis

1094
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: than you might normally, and he's like one for sixteen,

1095
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: and people were like, what's wrong with him? I'm like,

1096
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: are you watching this guy? He looks like he looks

1097
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: like an absolute pro And not that it was like

1098
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: a huge smart thing that a lot of us said it,

1099
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: but it was like, guys, this is not a I'm

1100
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: not concerned about Drake ball when of course now he's

1101
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: going nuclear. Anythink surprised you about Drake? I mean, obviously

1102
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: we're all excited, but if he looked even better than

1103
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: we thought he might look so far, he looks awesome.

1104
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: So I would say, I mean, yeah, He's definitely looked

1105
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: better than than I could have hoped. I knew what

1106
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: he was capable of. You don't really get that many

1107
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: positional prospects like that. The only the last one I

1108
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: can think of, And it's like, Okay, Ronald as a

1109
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: prospers like up here right, Like yep. I listened to

1110
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: him one at bat his first year and I was like,

1111
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: holy crap, Like no, just the way the ball hit

1112
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: his bat, like the way yeah, everything was just the

1113
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: way it sounds, yeah, exactly exactly, and he's up there

1114
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: and so like Drake like he's he was up here

1115
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: for me. He did everything right. He knew how to hit,

1116
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: he knew how to approach each a bat, he knew

1117
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: how to call a game, he knew how to frame

1118
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: ak like he knew how to frame like at that age,

1119
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: with that amount of experience, you could tell he was

1120
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: going to be a success. I thought Floor was major

1121
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: league catcher for him, which is why I did not

1122
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: realize his stealing was going to be potential rookie yet.

1123
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: Well he could. I totally saw him potentially win a

1124
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, but like nine fifty nine seventy ops,

1125
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: Like no, I didn't see that. I thought he was

1126
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: just going to be a really really good hitter and

1127
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: especially a really good catching hitter. But to this degree,

1128
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: not quite. I wouldn't have surprised me if he evolved

1129
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: into this, but this early, Like, no.

1130
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: We had to get to Drake because it's just such

1131
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: an awesome story. And absolutely, look, and there are some

1132
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: guys and I won't name names, there are some guys

1133
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: who come up and they get high and there's a

1134
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: little bit of concern for whatever reason, like and occasionally

1135
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: they fix it casually, they don't, they drop off whatever.

1136
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: I hadn't talked to anybody that's like worried about anything

1137
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: with Drake. He might not be this. I'm not saying

1138
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna always be like all star level, which is

1139
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: what he's playing at right now. That might not be

1140
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: his baseline. It might be his baseline for the record,

1141
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: but we don't know that yet after a half season.

1142
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: But I don't have any concern at all now that

1143
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: he's just gonna be bad, Like there's pretty much that's

1144
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: just gone. Which for me by June fourth, if your

1145
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: rookie year, for me to be like not at all

1146
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: worried about that is like a pretty big state because

1147
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: I worry about everything. I'm a worrier.

1148
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: No, even like I'm not worrying something like that, even

1149
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: almost even thinking something like that is absolutely crazy. But

1150
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: like now I'm like, okay, what's his worst? Are they

1151
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: going to be like a seven to fifty oh ps? Like,

1152
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: oh no, which average catcher?

1153
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: A catcher that's like awesome. I have been. I always

1154
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: say this, and it's it's still true. Like the baseline

1155
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: catcher is lower than people think that. It is absolutely

1156
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: if you can hit, if you can hit at all,

1157
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: a catcher, like you're you're feeling good and the Braves

1158
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: currently have maybe the best catching duo in the league.

1159
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: It's nice to talk about. I'm gonna to take sorry

1160
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: last thing what people are talking about on Twitter and

1161
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: have a catching prospect, Like people are talking about Drake

1162
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: playing DH to get his bad.

1163
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: In, Like it's a as a as a catcher, as

1164
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: a rookie catcher, you're right or playing left field. I

1165
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: mean it's a testament of course, so so so have

1166
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: I we have on the show. But no, it actually

1167
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: is worth taking a half step back and saying, look,

1168
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: it is very unusual for a rookie catcher to be

1169
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: getting that. And yeah, part of it is that the

1170
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: Braves have a left field problem, we all understand that.

1171
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: But it's also because Drake looks freaking awesome to the

1172
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: point where the bat plays somewhere else. Like most catching prospects,

1173
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: the bat is not going to be like awesome at

1174
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: another position. It's they are good catching, they're good hitting

1175
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: catchers and good hitters, and they're not always the same thing.

1176
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: He seems to be a good hitter, you know what

1177
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he's just a good hitter period.

1178
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: And that's he's a good hitter that place catcher.

1179
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: Correct. Well, Hey, Gore, if you want to add anything

1180
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: else about anybody else, feel free. If not, I appreciate

1181
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: you being here, and please plug all your stuff because

1182
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: we've kind of did it already. But please feel free

1183
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: to share where people can find you. It's masterful. I

1184
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: follow all the stuff and I try to learn little

1185
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: bits and pieces from you and Garrett and others. But

1186
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: where can people find Oh?

1187
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Brad. Yeah, you can find me on

1188
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: Twitter x at GVDAC I write over at Battery Power.

1189
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: You can find me there. I think it's like Thursday, Wednesday,

1190
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: Thursday Friday from my work there, and then if you're

1191
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: interested and specifically Braves Minor League Minor league development, you

1192
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: can follow my podcast at Peach State Prospects.

1193
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: People should be doing that Rose on Twitter for Twitter,

1194
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: I am a subscriber. Do I retain all the information note,

1195
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: but I do listen to it. It goes in my ears,

1196
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: hopefully I will. That's my way of learning about things

1197
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 1: in the absence of watching a ton of my league baseball.

1198
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: But hey, I'm gonna pledge to you right now, I'm

1199
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna try to watch. I'm gonna try to watch on

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00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: Carrie immediately, like maybe maybe right now I'm gonna pull

1201
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: up my my tools to get video in at bats

1202
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll be able to do that.

1203
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: But I got you, man.

1204
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Speaker 1: Thank you again for being here. I appreciate it. Listen

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00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: to Pete Prospects. Subscribe to that podcast. Remember our podcast,

1206
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Speaker 1: Hey Were Territory. Anywhere you find podcasts, follow, follow a

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