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Speaker 2: Look at this now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Hey. It's the thirtieth of January

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. What's up, jerk jobs? Hello, It's morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: How are you happy Monday to you? Let's get this

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas. I'm one half of your

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Speaker 1: hosting duo. I join you from the capital of the

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Speaker 1: status anitos have I am told my friend is here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't quite see him, but be

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Speaker 1: that as it may. It's the King of Connecticut himself.

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Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas, how are you great? To

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Speaker 2: see you back with a bang on a Monday morning? Right?

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Speaker 2: It's almost the first of the month, right, so shout

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Speaker 2: out to nineties hip hop with that one.

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Speaker 1: Wake up, Wake up, cash your checks in, get up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm excited to be back

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Speaker 2: on this award winning show one week. One week before

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Speaker 2: we get on a plane, Luke and head over to

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Speaker 2: London for some MK in the UK Okay, London calling

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Speaker 2: the reverse British invasion is coming your way. I can't

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Speaker 2: you know, love, happiness, all that good stuff, and maybe

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Speaker 2: even combat sports as well. You know, I'll find it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, BC, can you believe it? In a week from today,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be getting on a jet plane. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be BC's first time in Europe. Everyone, this is

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty yeah, I've never crossed the Atlantic before, but

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Speaker 2: like Lucky Lindbergh Luke, you know what I'm saying, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a successful journey. And you know, February eighth,

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Speaker 2: Wednesday night, King's Place, nine pm local London time. There

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Speaker 2: happening the Podlve Festival. You guys know about that already,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by the Sports Podcast Group. You remember

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Speaker 2: they named us best sports podcast of twenty twenty two. Well,

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Speaker 2: now we're gonna go out there and earn it. So folks,

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Speaker 2: we're leaving in a week. There are a few rows

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Speaker 2: to jam pack this thing, right, Luke. We want to

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Speaker 3: But no, it all seriousness. It'll be full enough where

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Speaker 3: a full on sellout. It's not a full on sellout yet.

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Speaker 1: It'll be great no matter what, but I think crossing

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Speaker 2: Now, if you watch the pre show commercials, you could

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Speaker 2: argue it already is a full on sellout, Luke, but

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Speaker 2: you know it's kind of our best to navigate success.

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Speaker 2: But no, seriously, uh, this is gonna be the best

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Speaker 2: ninety minutes of your life if you like the ridiculousness

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Speaker 2: that we bring to the table, that outlaw Dan Hardy,

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Speaker 2: this is gonna be a very exciting trip. Jake von

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Speaker 2: But you know, jokes aside, Luke, I'm ready, I'm ready. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be you know, arms open to this continent here, this,

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Speaker 1: wearing a new Rising sunshirt.

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Speaker 2: Oh I have the happy mug here? Did I leave

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you play Fortnite in twenty twenty three and

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Speaker 2: against big slim, I wonder whether that will motivate him

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Speaker 2: to want to change that. And I wondered at the

431
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Speaker 2: time whether Padeda's straight ahead style would essentially force him

432
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Speaker 2: to change that, meaning this idea I asked ahead of

433
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Speaker 2: the first fight, should at A Sonya look to finish

434
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Speaker 2: this guy rather than allow him to linger and the

435
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Speaker 2: potential that he gets you late. It just turned out

436
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Speaker 2: that's exactly what happened, Luke, do you think the second

437
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Speaker 2: time around? At Asnya looks at his body at work said, yeah,

438
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Speaker 2: I controlled him for most of it, but there was

439
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Speaker 2: something super special about this guy. He surprisingly showed us

440
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Speaker 2: real five round stamina. He surprisingly showed us, you know,

441
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Speaker 2: like I said, overcoming all the all the things he

442
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 2: hasn't leveled up in his MMA game and just relying

443
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Speaker 2: on the fighting spirit. If you're out of Sonya, are

444
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Speaker 2: you looking to finish this guy the second one, knowing

445
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Speaker 2: that you had him close in the first round.

446
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Speaker 1: I think I think, you know, the thing maybe was

447
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Speaker 1: a bit of a missed opportunity. The first fight was

448
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Speaker 1: not enough ground pound. There was some he had the

449
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Speaker 1: axe kick at the end of the third, and then

450
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Speaker 1: a bit of a left hand that came after it

451
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Speaker 1: when Padeda was a on the ground. I think that

452
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Speaker 1: was pretty nice, but in general, there could have been

453
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Speaker 1: a little bit more. You know, here's the thing, b see,

454
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Speaker 1: if you go back and you watch, he didn't change

455
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Speaker 1: a whole lot. Obviously Putta got more aggressive in that

456
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Speaker 1: fifth But when when Izzy is getting backed up against

457
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Speaker 1: the fence, which he's you know, he's more mobile when

458
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Speaker 1: he's fresher, but it takes real precise trunk movement and

459
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Speaker 1: fast twitch muscles and all that kind of stuff. It's

460
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Speaker 1: a very delicate razor's edge of physicality you're working off

461
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Speaker 1: of in terms of the danger you're inviting and how

462
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Speaker 1: good your reflexes have to be. When those waned a

463
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Speaker 1: little bit, not like they didn't fall off a cliff,

464
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Speaker 1: but they weren't as good as they were in the

465
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Speaker 1: first two three rounds by the fifth round, and Putana's

466
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Speaker 1: putting even more pressure on. He just couldn't make those

467
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Speaker 1: quick reads and adjustments and pulls as fast, and I

468
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Speaker 1: think that caught up with him. What is the answer

469
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Speaker 1: for that? Seems to me that's the problem to solve.

470
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Speaker 1: As long as it's striking in the middle A little

471
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Speaker 1: bit of wrestling, a little bit of clinch fighting. Put

472
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Speaker 1: Eda will be in it, but Izzy will just be

473
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Speaker 1: a little bit ahead by virtual of all the stuff

474
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Speaker 1: you've already seen. The question is one, you have come

475
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Speaker 1: from this level of physical reactive speed and agility down

476
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Speaker 1: to this one, and now he's turning up the intensity.

477
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Speaker 1: How do you solve that problem? As long as he's

478
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Speaker 1: got some answer for that, I think he can win.

479
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Speaker 1: If he doesn't, he cannot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if this new face tat from Atosania

481
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Speaker 2: is a tip of the hand of what direction he's headed.

482
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Speaker 2: Luke ultimate badassery. Because everyone I've ever known before this

483
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: became a popular sort of hipster move who had a

484
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Speaker 2: tattoo above their chest or below their wrist, They've either

485
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Speaker 2: done two things in their life, Luke, hard time or

486
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Speaker 2: a willingness to kick your ass over very little, and

487
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Speaker 2: sometimes those two come together. Is he getting that face

488
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Speaker 2: tattoo along with the neck one? Tells me, Luke, he's

489
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Speaker 2: entering a new season of his life, a dramatic, violent season.

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Speaker 1: He might be. I know, you get tattoos on your face, man,

491
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Speaker 1: that's uh, that is a commitment.

492
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Speaker 2: That's a Mike Perry shit right there, You know what

493
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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, point our topic number two, BC, we

495
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Speaker 1: stick with UFC two eighty seven. This is why to

496
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: the point you raised about the comain, why it could

497
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: be ultimately in Miami, is that the komain will be

498
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Speaker 1: what we believe is Gilbert Burns returning against Jorge Masvidal.

499
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Speaker 1: Of course, both guys train out and live in the

500
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Speaker 1: Miami area. BC. If they actually do end up making

501
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Speaker 1: this fight, and by the way, UC President Dan White

502
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Speaker 1: announced that, I'm saying it goes through what does this

503
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Speaker 1: fight mean for each competitor and what does the result

504
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Speaker 1: mean for the division.

505
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Speaker 2: Given their stature, given the huge win Gilbert Burns had

506
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Speaker 2: in terms of staying in line in contendership because he

507
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: was unable to land bigger opponents. Yet dude, he mopped

508
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: up on Neil Magni. I think obviously from a distance,

509
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: you go, okay, this is a celebrity pseudo number one

510
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Speaker 2: contender fight. And if we are going to have visions

511
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Speaker 2: of potentially inserting Masvidal back into a title fight, which

512
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Speaker 2: I believe could only truly happen if Edwards is the

513
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Speaker 2: defending champion at that point, given their history. I like

514
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Speaker 2: that the UFC essentially comes out and says, you know,

515
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Speaker 2: all right, we can't just do it on name power

516
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: alone anymore. You already had two of those, right, we

517
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: gotta go in the direction of you gotta beat a

518
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,479
Speaker 2: top guy. I think my biggest question separate from Gilbert.

519
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Speaker 2: We know what Gilbert wants, Luke. He wins this fight,

520
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 2: He's gonna get what he wants. He's either gonna get

521
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: a title shot or the biggest possible crossover name available

522
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Speaker 2: to him. My question is why did Mozvidal accept this

523
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Speaker 2: when every single person's reaction to this fight was damn,

524
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Speaker 2: Mosclo's gonna get his ass kicked. And that doesn't mean

525
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Speaker 2: that's what's gonna play out. And mozvel is very capable,

526
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Speaker 2: and you know, this is why we watch the fights

527
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day. But Luke, why is

528
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Speaker 2: Mozvidal doing this? He's already had two title shots. I

529
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Speaker 2: don't see him at this age anymore as somebody that

530
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Speaker 2: is caught up on the idea that I've got one

531
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Speaker 2: more run in me. I think he's now a you know,

532
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Speaker 2: a contracted hit man who's looking like Gilbert was during

533
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Speaker 2: the last season. Of trying to find the biggest name

534
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Speaker 2: possible for the most amount of money. Obviously he beats Gilbert, dude,

535
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Speaker 2: he could get anybody, But is that worth the risk

536
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Speaker 2: right now?

537
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Speaker 4: For?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Who else would he fight and take out Connor?

539
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Speaker 1: Because they're not going to make that Connor fight with him.

540
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: So Connor's not on the table, Nate Diaz not on

541
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Speaker 1: the table. Who does who does if he's not fighting

542
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Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns to get anywhere approximating what Jorge Masball would want,

543
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Speaker 1: which is, you know, to be as relevant as possible,

544
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Speaker 1: but it's but more than likely more more well paid. Uh,

545
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Speaker 1: something of an action fight if at all possible. That's

546
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Speaker 1: what he's looking for. So who would it be? BC?

547
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Speaker 1: Because Kamaru's fighting Leon Colby. They're not going to do

548
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Speaker 1: they are just they just did it. Hamza is We

549
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Speaker 1: don't even know if he's going to be in this

550
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Speaker 1: weight class. Then there's bull all. Jorge has not taking

551
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Speaker 1: that Gilbert sitting at five wonder Boy, he already fought

552
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Speaker 1: and lost and by the way, that fight, granted that

553
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: was before his renaissance, but that was one sided. Jeff Neil,

554
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's already got a date with Shafcott.

555
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: Then you have Sean Brady that I don't think that.

556
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Speaker 2: Right, And just to be fair, you're getting to the

557
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Speaker 2: level of names where the money is not going to

558
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Speaker 2: be the same. So I get that this is a

559
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Speaker 2: this is answer the question.

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Speaker 1: Hold on and I'll go. I'll finish it just very

561
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Speaker 1: quickly as Sean Brady Visente Luke and then shot cut

562
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Speaker 1: Rocky Modop sitting at ten, Masbadol sitting at eleven. First

563
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Speaker 1: of all, this is inside the top five as an opponent,

564
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Speaker 1: and secondly, this is the best it's going to get

565
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Speaker 1: for Jorge given the circumstances. To your point, he's thirty eight.

566
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Speaker 1: I believe Gilbert is thirty six. So Gilbert not exactly young,

567
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Speaker 1: but he does have a little bit of a youth advantage.

568
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Speaker 1: I also think he's got fewer competitive MMA miles on

569
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Speaker 1: him relatively speaking. Jorge has been fighting in backyards quite

570
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Speaker 1: literally for a while, so there's a lot of wear

571
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Speaker 1: and tear on his body. But this fight is not

572
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Speaker 1: a perfect fight for Jorge by any stretch. But if

573
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Speaker 1: he loses and performs well, it's not great. It's bad,

574
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Speaker 1: but it's not altogether a complete disaster. Moreover, it's a

575
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Speaker 1: big enough name where if he does in fact win,

576
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Speaker 1: it puts him back in that space where he does

577
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Speaker 1: want to be to get those more marquee names, potentially

578
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Speaker 1: a Connter fight or whoever comes out of this Leon

579
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Speaker 1: and Kamaru thing. I guess what the see it all

580
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Speaker 1: plays out. That's why it's because this is a very

581
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Speaker 1: imperfect fight for Jorge, but given the lay of the land,

582
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Speaker 1: it's the very best one he's going to get at

583
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Speaker 1: this point in time.

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Speaker 2: I guess I asked this under the premise of did

585
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Speaker 2: they tell him essentially that, look, you know your money

586
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: fights at the moment are Connor and Leon if he

587
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: has the belt, if you want either of those, we're

588
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: gonna need you to come back, get a win and

589
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: get it, you know, get a big one. So I

590
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Speaker 2: guess I can understand it under that thinking for Jorge,

591
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: same thinking you mentioned where look, he's not gonna go

592
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Speaker 2: fight hom Zad or shov Cot or you know, he's

593
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Speaker 2: not gonna do that right now. Okay, maybe he looks

594
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Speaker 2: at Gilbert's age, the fact that Gilbert was lured into

595
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Speaker 2: a brawl against Hamzad and is just hoping Gilbert's not

596
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Speaker 2: gonna take him down to try to submit him. And

597
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Speaker 2: I know Jorgees got defense for that, but I yeah,

598
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Speaker 2: I guess, I guess. I guess You're right, you know,

599
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: for if you want big opportunities, you got to win

600
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: big fights to get there. But uh man, odds wise,

601
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Speaker 2: have they installed the odds yet, Luke? Because they got

602
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: to be aggressively in the direction?

603
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Speaker 1: Good question. Let me set up right now. Let's see

604
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Speaker 1: here for Jorge Masvidal.

605
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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Orges scared of anybody. I'm sure

606
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Speaker 2: he looks at Gilbert and goes, Okay, I see my

607
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: potential angle of victory. I just don't know if we

608
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: see that, Luke.

609
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not going to give you the place. I'll

610
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: just give you a rough approximation of what it looks like.

611
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: It's roughly minus five hundred for Gilbert Burns plus four

612
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: hundred for Hore. It's an uphill climb. It's an uphill climb.

613
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: Let's just be very honest about that. He can do it,

614
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: but it's an uphill climb.

615
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: Would you advise him to do a unique training camp

616
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: for this one and go back to the same forest

617
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: in Central America where he went to that reality show

618
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: took the year plus break of his career and woke

619
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Speaker 2: up one day and decided it's time to start baptizing fools. Luke,

620
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: can lightning strike twice in the same location?

621
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Speaker 1: Unlikely? I mean, you know, you ever break up with

622
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: someone BC and then you're apart from them for a

623
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Speaker 1: while and then you're like, you know what, I really

624
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: miss him, and then you get back together and you're like, yeah,

625
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: that was probably a mistake, Like it was a good thing.

626
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: We had that moment in time, But I can't use

627
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: this to recapture magic. And the magic was that time

628
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Speaker 1: in that time.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, look to on to that. There's

630
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Speaker 2: there's this this weird phenomenon that happened in my single

631
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: dating life. For anyone that broke up with me wasn't

632
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Speaker 2: looking to get back together with me.

633
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

634
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, Luke. So no, I've never

635
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: done that, to be honest.

636
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Speaker 1: With you, and I've only had it happened a couple

637
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Speaker 1: of times, and both times it was done, I was like, yeah,

638
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: that was yeah.

639
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: Nah, it's not that, Luke, it's me. Okay, let's be

640
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: fair about that.

641
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I can believe. But to the point you raised,

642
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: it's like, the fight is, this is what you're basically

643
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: getting at, and I think you're one hundred percent right.

644
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, this is a that's a tough ass fight,

645
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Speaker 1: and Gilbert is popular, but he's not like the biggest

646
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: name in the division. Certainly a big name, a respectable name,

647
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: but not a huge name. Why the hell would you

648
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: take this? And the answer is, given his other options,

649
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the better option. I mean, I

650
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: guess he could fool around a one eighty five or something,

651
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: but dude, he's somebody. Was that three fight losing streak

652
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: he's on. This would be a fourth.

653
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if he realized after after negotiating, that he

654
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: has to win this fight to get get a chance

655
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: at those two money fights I mentioned. But look, I

656
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: want to ask you this quick, and we're gonna have

657
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: time to break this fight down at nauseum. But do

658
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: you think Jorge looks at Gilbert compared to the two

659
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: wrestle heavy elites that he most recently fought in this division,

660
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: Colby Covington and Kamara Usman, and says to himself, even

661
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: though Gilbert's submission game is off the charts. He won't

662
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: be as consistent of a takedown thread of those other two.

663
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: And if I fought those other two and you know,

664
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Speaker 2: I didn't win, but you know, here I am still

665
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: standing I'll take that risk against Gilbert that I can

666
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: try to stuff those takedowns.

667
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think so. I think he probably feels

668
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: like on the feet if it stays there, I'll win.

669
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: And he is good on the ground, and he can wrestle,

670
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: but it's not like the Colby all over you kind

671
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: of wrestle. You could probably you know, fight through a

672
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: lot of that more nimbly than you know. And by

673
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: the way, fighting Colby is a good setup in the

674
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: event that Gilbert wants to wrestle, right like you have

675
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: that experience. Now, whether any of that actually proves to

676
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: be true or how true it is remains to be seen,

677
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: but I could understand that still, even with that, the

678
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: counter I would have that the Devil's advocate would be like, well,

679
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: Gilbert can wrestle really well. He can definitely wrestle really

680
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: well in a three round contest, which is probably what

681
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: that's going to be. And his submission game is you know,

682
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: they don't come much better. They don't come much better,

683
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: and plus he can strike his ass off too. By

684
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: the way, like the idea that Jorge is automatically going

685
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: to chew him up on the feet, I'm not so

686
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: sure how true that is. I think Ray at his

687
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: best has been better, but I don't even know what

688
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: the state of things currently would be.

689
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: You know, Look, the only other matchup I would have

690
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: said style wise could have been good for him, And

691
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Speaker 2: I want to know if you agree with this is

692
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: balal Muhammad. Do you agree that that's the best potential

693
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: top five matchup for Jorge At the moment, styles All.

694
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: Is a horrible matchup for him. Why would that be

695
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: a good match up?

696
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: I mean, is going to put on the pressure and

697
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: the striking. Why you think Ballall dominates him on the ground.

698
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Balal Muhammad is a guy that

699
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: I've been wrong about a fair number of times.

700
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely to win that fight. I'm just wondering style Yeah.

701
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: Liked Jorge thought I'm picking Blall like I You know,

702
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: maybe I wouldn't have two years ago or something, but

703
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: I definitely would now. So one of the things that's

704
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: really impressive about Belaw the fans don't like it, but

705
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: you can see it just absolutely crushes his opponents. Is yeah,

706
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean he might strike a little bit on the feet,

707
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: but once he begins to establish wrestling contact, he does

708
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: chain stuff together. Right, He's constantly just on you. He

709
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: is like he has like mosquitoes in a swamp, Like

710
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: he just doesn't let go. He doesn't all the time

711
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: drown you or put on something flashy. But once he

712
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: begins that process of risk control and underhooking and level

713
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: changing and pressing against the fence and switching to the

714
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: ankles and blah blah blah, once that process gets going, dude,

715
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: it just doesn't really fucking stop. And these guys have

716
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: a hard time dealing with it. And I think Jorge

717
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: at thirty eight, even though by the way, Jorge is

718
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: a good defensive wrestler and is a very good grappler,

719
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: but at thirty eight against a guy like that, that's

720
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: a bad matchup for him. I don't like that at all.

721
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Speaker 2: Nor you know, I put out the possibilities, Luke, and

722
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: then you play whack a mole on whatever one you want.

723
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know, really, at the end of

724
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: the day, does blah Mohammed have the best rack in

725
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: MMA in terms of male fighters, in terms of.

726
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: To say his pecks are legitimate. I mean those things

727
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: are legitimate. You know, that's just just guy.

728
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: I mean, if you could take his pecks with Ian

729
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: Heinish's back, do you have the perfect man, Luca?

730
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean really, you know you know who? You know

731
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: he I would need you. So you take Blall's pecks,

732
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: you take the traps of Dalka Lungiambula. You've seen that

733
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: fella's traps. Holy shit, he can't walk through a normal yo.

734
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: Yo, I know that dude. Yeah, he wears green trunks

735
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: all the time.

736
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: I know that guy. He's got super fucking huge traps.

737
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: And then the back of like, dude, Big Francis is back.

738
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: I've seen Francis in person a couple times. And by

739
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: the way they're saying, Sean Brady, Sean Brady's Sean Brady

740
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: looks like he has dude, this is how fucking yoked

741
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: Sean Brady is ready. If he turns to the side

742
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: and you're not paying attention, it looks like he has

743
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: bad posture, but he doesn't. He just has so much

744
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: muscle tissue on his back. That it almost bows him

745
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: out a little bit. It's crazy how strong and muscular

746
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: that dude is.

747
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: And then well tattooed there, well tattooed and.

748
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: Very well tattooed. Yes, all right, BC. By the way,

749
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Speaker 1: before we move off from this topic, just lastly, where

750
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: are we with Colby Covington? Because Ham's out one of

751
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: that fight and we thought we were going to get it.

752
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Then Gilbert calls for the fight, and we thought we

753
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: were going to get it or maybe they would push

754
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: in that direction, and they're not. They're gonna do something

755
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: else with the ultimate fighter, which is something else I

756
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: think he had potentially wanted. Where is Colby? I don't

757
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sort of understand by the time he

758
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: makes his return to the division, whenever that is, will

759
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: it already be too late. It does feel like he's

760
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: being a little bit forgotten.

761
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: Okay, true, but if he has turned down fights, he

762
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: has had no shortage by the way people shouting his name,

763
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: like you mentioned Gilbert Burns included. You know, I wonder

764
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: if this is potentially strategic because he does look at

765
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: his situation right, this is the tail end of his

766
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: physical prime, his marketing peak as well. Just got a

767
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: pay per view win over Jorge, so there's some sort

768
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: of momentum, you know, Luke he I think he's felt

769
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: for some time that he has entered the celebrity fighter space,

770
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: that he already did the word climbing the ladder, So

771
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't want to have to be thrown

772
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: back into the mix. Whether you believe that or not,

773
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: whether you believe he truly is a pay per view

774
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: brand er, he's achieved that sort of lofty status. I

775
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: wonder if he's waiting on the results of the trilogy

776
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: title fight, thinking in his mind, here I'm a fresh

777
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: title foe for Leon Edwards and have the you know,

778
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: the biggest name. If he does beat Dusman. That's really

779
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: where I'm wondering there, because if that door closes, if

780
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: Usman wins the belt back, Okay, we're not going to

781
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: a trilogy here against Colby. That's when Colby suddenly has

782
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: to do the hard work again. That's when he's going

783
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: to have to you know, potentially beat a Hamza, a

784
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: gilberta whoever. I wonder if right now this is a

785
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: little bit about positioning in strategy in that regard.

786
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: That's a fair point I don't have a better answer, Saul,

787
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: I'd let yours be the last word on that. It'll

788
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: be curious, I'll be curious.

789
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: I guess the best way to answer that to me

790
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: is this, If Edwards wins the if Edwards keeps his belt,

791
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: and you're saying what's next right away, we're going to

792
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: be talking about the winner of Jorgey versus h versus

793
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: Gilbert Gilbert. We're also going to be talking about where

794
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 2: is Hamza in the you know, in the two division equation.

795
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: But the guy again coming off of a win in

796
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: a pay per view main event, will still be Colby covected.

797
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: So I think that that sums it up, you know.

798
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And obviously if Jorgey loses to Gilbert, then that

799
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: someonet narrows the situation as well, so we'll have to

800
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: see excuse me, all right, BC point number three. So

801
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: this one was very bad news at the end of

802
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: last week. Bloody Elbow BloodyElbow dot Com, which which is

803
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: still as I speak today, a Vox owned media property,

804
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: one of the most long running and you know it's

805
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: not an independent side. It is owned by corporate or

806
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: at least for the time remaining, it is owned by

807
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: a corporate entity, but had a very independently focused, I

808
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: think editorial posture. It's being let go essentially by the

809
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: parent comp which is Box Media BC. I don't know

810
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: if you want to go first on this or not.

811
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Speaker 1: I mean, give them my proximity to the issue.

812
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: I want to throw it to you, Luke, because you know,

813
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: I've certainly loved the stuff I've read on Bloodyevel, but

814
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: I don't have that same intimate up through the rain,

815
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: you know. You know, I come from Boxing, came over

816
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: to MMA a little bit later than a lot of

817
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: my contemporaries in this game. I'd love for you to

818
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: sort of sum up the impact of this website and

819
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: what this means and what the future could be now

820
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So for folks who don't know, is that just

822
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: indicated Box is going to drop and I think they've

823
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Speaker 1: got thirty more days, give or take of the entire operation,

824
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Speaker 1: they're going to let it go. It was founded in

825
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Speaker 1: February of two thousand and seven. At that time I

826
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Speaker 1: took it over as the first editor in chief of

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Speaker 1: Bloodyebow dot com. I worked there for about four or

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Speaker 1: five years until a round about twenty eleven or so,

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Speaker 1: MMA Mania, So MMA Mania was the second site to

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Speaker 1: come on board, and then the last of the Big

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Speaker 1: three was MMA Fighting, which was sold by AOL around

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve, give or take around that time, at which

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Speaker 1: point I moved into like an editorial role as a

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Speaker 1: as an editor excuse me, at MMA Fighting. So I

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00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: seen folks be like, well, I can understand if Vox

839
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Speaker 1: had three why they would want to let one go,

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Speaker 1: But really that doesn't make a lot of sense because

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Speaker 1: it's been this way for more than ten years, right,

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Speaker 1: they've had three sites for ten years. They just figured

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Speaker 1: out they didn't need another a third one. That doesn't

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847
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Speaker 1: to say with any degree of true certainty, but the

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Speaker 1: reality is at Bloody Elbow since that time, and this

849
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Speaker 1: is something that Nate and I. Nate Wilcox was the

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Speaker 1: that we have been focused on since day one. We

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Speaker 1: just didn't want to do what all the other sites

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Speaker 1: were doing, which was to us felt being very obsequious

854
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Speaker 1: to the industry and Bloody Elbow over the years. Listen,

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Speaker 1: you can take issue with individual things that have been written.

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857
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Speaker 1: been mistakes that they have made, fine, absolutely all true.

858
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: 'st majority of people you have seen Matt Bloody Elbow

859
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: do so because they just have a right wing, far

860
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: right wing political slant. They don't like some of the

861
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: stuff they report on. But if you just examine who

862
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: has done over the course of its life as a

863
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: media institution, the most reporting on industry, malfe sins, industream malpractice,

864
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: bad actors in the space, and as well, most IMPORTANTLYBC,

865
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: the true realities of fighter pay. Who has really put

866
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: a magnifying glass on the industry in the best way possible.

867
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: The answer is to me, Bloody Elbow by a mile.

868
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: I don't think there's even really a close second. Other

869
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: people in that space have done good work, but as

870
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: an institution is one of the most important ones, and

871
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: frankly BC without it, I got to tell you, for

872
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: the industry, I'm a little bit terrified. I'm a little

873
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: bit terrified. It looks like what's going to happen at

874
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: Bloody Elbow is that the people who have been working

875
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: there now are going to try and reconstitute it independently.

876
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: I very much hope that works. I would love to

877
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: see that work. You know, you've seen the guy from

878
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: dead Spin. They ended up making Decoder to some degree

879
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: of success. It's not easy to do, so I'm really,

880
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: I really really hope they're able to make that work.

881
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: And if they are, then all's well, that ends well.

882
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: But that's a very difficult endeavor as well. NBC, there's

883
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: simply no one else in the industry that's really done this.

884
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: And I really want to make one more point about

885
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: this whole thing, which is why I'm terrified. There have

886
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: been really two key events that make me very nervous

887
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: for the state of MMA media. Like already we're at

888
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: a place where they just mostly cover events fight trans

889
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: fight news. This fight got booked, this fight fell through.

890
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: Here's what the commission said. It's very much hands off

891
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: in terms of examining industry practices. And that's fine. That's

892
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: a beat you can do, but there should be other

893
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: ones as well. When the Athletic came around, they hired everybody.

894
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: They even tried to recruit me. I don't know if

895
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: they tried to recruit UBC, but they tried to recruit

896
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: me as well. Yeah, they wanted and ended up collecting

897
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: everyone who did real reporting. The Shawan el Shatti is

898
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: the Chuck Mindenhalls, Josh Gross, They had Chad Dundas, they

899
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: have been folks, and it goes on and on and

900
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: on from there. Dan Stubb was part of it and

901
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: other ones as well, and they basically let all those

902
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: folks go. Many of them have not been able to

903
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: find the same kind of work since then. Some haven't

904
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: been able to get work really in any kind of

905
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: meaningful capacity in the industry at all since then. That

906
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: was devastating for MMA reporting, And we should say that

907
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: out loud, that what the Athletic did was devastating for

908
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: actual reporting in MMA because those other sites didn't hire

909
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: most of those people back. Sean al Shotty went to

910
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: MMA fighting, but he's largely in an editorial role. He

911
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: doesn't do a lot of actual writing day to day.

912
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: Chuck Mindenhall never really went back to another site, for example,

913
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: Like the loss of what he was doing is incredible.

914
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: And then this you add up vox dropping, Bloody Elbow

915
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: and what the Athletic did to MMA. I can't think

916
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: of anything that has put more people out of work

917
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: who do the actual work of journalism in the space

918
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: than even any ban from any promoter, which, by the way,

919
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: those have been very bad for certain people, no doubt

920
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: about it. But the scale of devastation here, a potential

921
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: devastation is horrible. Dude. You could really make an argument

922
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: that it losing these two sites, or losing Athletic and

923
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: then losing Bladeola if they're not able to reconstitute the

924
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: reference elsewhere, is the end of MME journalism in any

925
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: kind of like genuine capacity as it used to exist,

926
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: and maybe as a as a real practice the act

927
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: of what they do. It doesn't pay, No one really

928
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: wants to fund it, and it is going away, and

929
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I'm terrified, terrified of it. Yeah,

930
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: you're a scumbag in his industry. This is great news

931
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: for you.

932
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: I mean it's tough. I came to the MMA media

933
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: on a full time level rather than just a contributing

934
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: one in twenty sixteen. And if you said one of

935
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: the most important MMA journalistic pieces I've read in that time,

936
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: you know, they're probably all by John S. Nash and

937
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: Kareem Zadane.

938
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: Right, Luke, Yeah, something like that.

939
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: I mean, in what type of alumni that we now

940
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: know in MMA media comes from there? You Brent Brookhouse,

941
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: who now works at CBS. I mean, is it a

942
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: who's who across the board of people that have you know,

943
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: done work there and learn the trade there so to speak.

944
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, in general, one of

945
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: the criticisms I've had of Box Media is I don't

946
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: believe that they are very good at nurturing any of

947
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: their talent, but individual managers can be very much the

948
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: exception to that rule. And I would say that Nate

949
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: Wilcox has just the resume of people who have come

950
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: through there is extraordinary. I don't think there's another site

951
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: in MMA that can boast what they have in terms

952
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: of the number of people who have been able to

953
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: spread their wings and fly, so to speak.

954
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: Look, there's so much okay, like sports journalism, you know,

955
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: the in the digital era. You know, Look, it's always volatile, right,

956
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 2: in any company. And I've seen it in my days

957
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 2: at ESPN years where they went all in on specific

958
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: ports sports MMA included, and let's hire all these editors

959
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: and writers and you know, and then a couple years later, go, Okay,

960
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: that didn't pan out what we thought, We're going in

961
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: another direction. But look at right now, ESPN, while not

962
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: always maybe standing in the firmest of stance journalistically since

963
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: signing on with UFC, is now airing UFC, So it

964
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: couldn't be more prominent. So look, if you consider now

965
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: that the MMA journalism space, anytime a sport is hot,

966
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: and god, UFC has been hot for years, there's money there.

967
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: What is stopping those who bleed for this site behind

968
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: the scenes from doing exactly what you said, joining together

969
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: and trying to find another financial suitor who believes in

970
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: this style of I want to say, the style of journalism.

971
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: How about who believes in journalism? Look all right, you

972
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like seriously, I mean, it's like

973
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: if this was a super niche sport. And you know,

974
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: I've been in the boxing journalism gave for so long

975
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: where I've seen such highs and lows of like there's

976
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: a lot of money in the sport right now. It's

977
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: a balloon. There's no money in this sport at all. Dude,

978
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: there's money in the sport right now. You and I

979
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: are benefiting from that in the great work we're doing

980
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: at our various brands right now. Shouldn't somebody be able

981
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: to pick this up or this or this you know,

982
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: or at least the personnel or to keep this going.

983
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to be in a spot where

984
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: you're not.

985
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Dude. Good journalism doesn't pay in any form, or very

986
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: rarely pays. It just doesn't pay. And then and again,

987
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: the original way in which newspapers worked was that they

988
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: sold classified ads, and then that add money which had

989
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: nothing to do ostensibly with the journalistic work itself, like

990
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: the Moscow Bureau Chief at that time in the sixties

991
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, that the two were separate, and

992
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: so you didn't have to worry how much you mean,

993
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: everyone had budgets, but you weren't thinking, should I write

994
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: this story because it'll get more clicks. Should I do

995
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: this podcast because it'll get more clicks? Excuse me? Or

996
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: should I do the actual story? Should I do the

997
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: actual thing that matters that you know is not I'm

998
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: not gearing my work from an editorial perspective based on

999
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: what will generate immediate returns. They didn't think of it

1000
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: in that way because they didn't have to. And so

1001
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: when you think of journalism as what does this individual

1002
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: podcast episode, what does this individual video, what does this

1003
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: individual article net me immediately in terms of metrics, once

1004
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: you've made that switch, good journalism doesn't pay anymore. It

1005
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: doesn't pay. Now people might be saying, well, then if

1006
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: Bloody Elbow was that costly to box, then they have

1007
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: a right to cut them. Yes, Vox can certainly do

1008
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: everything that they want to, but I would caution against that.

1009
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: I think, to me, you know, I wasn't. I've been

1010
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: gone from the company since basically any full time capacities

1011
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: I think since twenty seventeen, and then all together after

1012
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, So since that time I could not tell

1013
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: you what the reality was. But what I do know

1014
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: is that one that Bloody Elbow was not expensive to

1015
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: run relative to other sites. They had hardly anybody that

1016
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: are that was full time. So like the fact that

1017
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: it was like weighing down from a call SAT perspective,

1018
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't really buy two the way that the Espionation

1019
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: company works is that they're supposed to be able to

1020
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: sell ads across a series of networks of sites that

1021
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: reach the same demos, and so you don't have to

1022
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: get individual very niche sponsorship. You have this network effect

1023
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: that's supposed to like scale, and therefore you can reach

1024
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: your goals even if independent sites aren't necessarily always the

1025
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: best fit or have always the best coverage. You have

1026
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: this wide array of scale you can use. That's the

1027
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: second part about it. And the third part is just

1028
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: this man like when I was there, let me just

1029
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: tell you that this is true. Like Blood Body, Elbow

1030
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: reported on difficult stories by choice and because they had

1031
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: to push them through. No one was encouraging them to

1032
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: do it, no one was forcing them to do it.

1033
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: They elected to do it, and of course they'd have

1034
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: to go through in house counsel to make sure everything

1035
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: was that they were publishing was above board, which they

1036
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: did and blah blah blah and on and on. But

1037
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: they're the ones that pushed the issue. And it's been

1038
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: this way since two thousand and seven. Like in twenty

1039
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: twenty three, all of a sudden, b didn't make enough money.

1040
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's true. I just tend to think that

1041
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: they are probably more of an editorial headache internally, and

1042
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: maybe Vox just didn't want that anymore. I tend to

1043
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: think that's most the likeliest of all the explanations.

1044
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: That's an interesting summary there, knowing your history and what

1045
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny when you said, you know, there's

1046
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: just not a lot of money to be made anymore

1047
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: for pure journalism, and I don't disagree, you know what,

1048
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: My knee jerk response always is to that, unless you're

1049
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: at ESPN, meaning the arms that ESPN has as a whole.

1050
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, you know, the former magazine features they

1051
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: can do E sixty outside the lines, that level of stuff. Look,

1052
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 2: ESPN has been very on top of the ball of

1053
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: reporting on the UFC gambling issues. Certainly we we, in

1054
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: our opinion, drop the ball on the out, you know,

1055
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: on the fallout of the Dana White domestic UH situation.

1056
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: Are we still a couple of years into this ESPN

1057
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: UFC deal like waiting to see when the next big

1058
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: scandal comes how they react or are there enough scandals

1059
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: out there right now that they already should be attacking

1060
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: and should be that that industry journalistic leader. I don't know, Luke.

1061
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: It's interesting this issue is like on the on the

1062
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: on the fighter pay stuff. It's not even like what

1063
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: should be the reaction to a scandal. It's like, dude,

1064
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: who is picking up the phones and looking for information

1065
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: that powerful bad actors don't want them to do. Who's

1066
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: actually going against that, who's working against those large scale interests?

1067
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: Well, they could hurt their own business. At the end

1068
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: of the day, their business is to profit off of

1069
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: the UFC. So if their business is to do that,

1070
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: how aggressive are they going to dig up everything beyond

1071
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 2: the game. And even in the gambling scandal, you can argue,

1072
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 2: you know, UFC wants that gambling scandal to be deeply

1073
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: investigated so they could never have it happen again and

1074
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: build up those you know, those walls to stop that.

1075
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: So I could see why they would be in support

1076
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: of that. But you know, there's a lot of issues

1077
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: that we talk about, a lot of sorry that you

1078
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: talk about a lot that sometimes even I, Luk are like, ah,

1079
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: this one again. But now that a lot of the

1080
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: pieces are really starting to come together through some very

1081
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: good aggressive investigative journalism in recent years and especially recent months,

1082
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: and obviously bloody elbow is a big part of a

1083
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: lot of that. Dude, I'm starting to wonder what that

1084
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: next big scandal that's going to come above the surface

1085
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: actually is, you know, is it you know cadeer Off

1086
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: related and down down that line in that category or

1087
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: what is it? And to your question, or to the

1088
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: one in general, I mean, who is going to be

1089
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: the places that are aggressively covering that and funding the

1090
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: coverage of that. It's very interesting question.

1091
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: So grateful for all the years that be was able

1092
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: to work Undervox. And I mean that genuinely because I

1093
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: know they probably didn't do that super gladly, but yeah,

1094
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: we shall see. I hope that they're able to reconstitute

1095
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: their referens elsewhere because otherwise the industry is poor for it.

1096
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: And by the way, just one more thing. It's like

1097
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: you can see a lot of people being bitter at Bee,

1098
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: which is great. Like you should be able to be

1099
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: fine if people are if there's a niche, people of whatever.

1100
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: People are allowed to say what they want about your

1101
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: media outlet, especially if your coverage has been adversarial or

1102
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: otherwise investigative, that's fine, But uh, you want players like

1103
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: that in your industry, right you want like dude Nate Willcox, Like,

1104
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: how BC, how much do you know about Nate the

1105
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: guy who ran the site? How much do you know

1106
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: about him?

1107
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: Almost nothing beyond the name Luke. Because he's not He

1108
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: doesn't purposely put himself out there as a public.

1109
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: Right because he doesn't give a shit about anyone's opinion

1110
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: in him a man. I mean that like genuinely lives

1111
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: his life independently, doesn't care what the opinion is of

1112
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: cage fighters on feminism or Andrew tap just doesn't give

1113
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: a shit, doesn't care what any one in any position

1114
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: of power has to say. Nothing doesn't bother him, doesn't

1115
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: live by it. And I mean like, in the truest

1116
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: sense of the word, that guy was powering the editorial direction.

1117
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: You need someone like that to do it, otherwise it

1118
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. And the point I wanted to make is

1119
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: people can be mad at it if they want, but

1120
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: the industry is better when someone who feels utterly unencumbered

1121
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: by it is asking questions about its practices. If you

1122
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: don't have that, you miss out on a lot a lot. Okay,

1123
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: with that in mind, let's go to topic number four BC.

1124
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: So in positive news, well, I guess if you're not

1125
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Yard, it's positive news. BC. Artur Betterbev forced Anthony

1126
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: Yard's corner to chuck the towel metaphorically speaking anyway, in

1127
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: the eighth round of their light heavyweight matchup. Bet Terbev

1128
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: or better Beef retains three of the titles. Of course,

1129
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Dmitri BiVO, who will talk about in a second, has

1130
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: the fourth. But BC, it was a great performance by

1131
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: better Beev. It was a great performance by Yard.

1132
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: What a first of all, look what a freaking fight.

1133
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: Right, So the question is this did better be a

1134
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: look a little old to you this time?

1135
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a combination of a couple factors. So

1136
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: you started off by sort of saying, well, you know,

1137
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: and happy, good good news unless your Yard. No, I

1138
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: actually think this is this whole performance was great news

1139
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: for Anthony Yard. No, he didn't end up winning the

1140
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: Unified light Heavyweight Championship. But Luke, despite being a monster underdog,

1141
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: despite you and I, given the history of us, you know,

1142
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: seeing Anthony Yard fight here and there, we're really down

1143
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: on his true prospects of winning this outside of landing

1144
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: the big punch why because he's somewhat still of a

1145
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: raw crude box or historically heading into here, and the

1146
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: guy gases big Lad, he's a big muscular guy. I

1147
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: have to say he completely turned around his reputation and

1148
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: what we think of him by a gutsy courageous performance

1149
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: in defeat. Whether you actually agree or not, on the scorecards,

1150
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: Yard was up on two of three scorecards at the

1151
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: time of the stopage. Obviously that would have changed with

1152
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 2: the knock down that happened leading up to the stoppage.

1153
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: And yes, the reason why the corner threw in the

1154
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: towel was because Anthony Yard had really begun to hit

1155
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 2: exhaustion and wasn't showing the proper body language. And look,

1156
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 2: we all agree they saved him from probably a violent

1157
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: ending there. But your question is, in terms of what

1158
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: we learned at thirty eight, has Age caught up to

1159
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: Beturvia better be whwever we want to say it to

1160
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: a certain degree, Yes, Luke, and I thought that comeback

1161
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 2: fight from the long Covid X, the long COVID layoff

1162
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: against what was the guy's name, Adam Denis, was that

1163
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: the fellow's name Luke, where I just like you know

1164
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: that was the fight a couple of years back. So

1165
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: let me look this up. That was Adam Dean's that

1166
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: was in Russia in twenty twenty one, where you know,

1167
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: Better be a little kind of human there taking big shots. Well, look,

1168
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 2: he came back with two big knockouts against two big

1169
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: names to kind of put that to rest. But here's

1170
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 2: the deal he did, Archer better be off things, which

1171
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: is be willing to take some level of damage to

1172
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: close that distance and get to mid distance and then

1173
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: get him to where he had Yard cornered, which was

1174
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: not surprisingly often in this fight, and that's when he

1175
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: lands those clean, hard, clubbing, ridiculous power shots. But Yard

1176
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: just would not stop trying to bounce back and win

1177
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: this fight. And it helps when you've got big time power,

1178
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: which is by Faryard's best calling. But I can't say

1179
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: it enough altogether. Yes, thirty eight years old, it's catching

1180
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: up to better beav just a little bit. And I

1181
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: do wonder if this performance, being so close where he

1182
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 2: was cut pretty badly under one eye and he was

1183
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: you know, bruised up pretty badly too, I think this

1184
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: is gonna lead to a lot of people if they

1185
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: were on the fence before you know, going bevall when

1186
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: they finally do make this undisputed fight. But that notwithstanding,

1187
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: Yard over achieved big time through just toughness and sheer

1188
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: will and improved technique. I can't go with it like

1189
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: you gotta say it, Luke. His left hook was money.

1190
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 2: He was landing big shots, which actually forced Better Beav

1191
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 2: to take a step back a few times. Better Beef

1192
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: did what he had to do. He's a true champion.

1193
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: But you saw that emotional celebration when he did get

1194
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: the stoppage. Did he get old overnight or did he

1195
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 2: just do exactly what we did and go. I've seen

1196
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: enough of Anthony Yard to know what this is a

1197
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: mandatory set up before the big career defining undisputed championship out.

1198
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: I don't fully know the equation there, you know what

1199
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: I mean? What did Better Beef has his eye off

1200
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: the ball just a little bit. Things caught off to him,

1201
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: but because he's so great, he pulled it off. That

1202
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: might be the case. With that power and the technique.

1203
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: You certainly wouldn't you know, you certainly wouldn't count out

1204
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: his chances of being the undisputed championship champion when they

1205
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: finally make that fight. But make no mistake, dude, this

1206
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: was almost more Anthony Yards night at the end of

1207
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: the day than it was better Viev.

1208
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 4: Wow.

1209
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: No, I'm not kidding on that. I'm not kidding on that.

1210
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: This is like a Fight of the Year contenter. This

1211
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: is a war.

1212
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:46,959
Speaker 1: Dude.

1213
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: Yard would not stop coming on, Luke. It was wild.

1214
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a misread a little bit,

1215
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: not that it would the fight wasn't great. I certainly

1216
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: agree with that, or that Yard doesn't deserve serious praise.

1217
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: He does. He does. I thought he showed even for

1218
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: people I think we can agree here, even for people

1219
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: kind of like us who thought Better Beev was gonna win,

1220
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Yard showed us a lot more than we were expecting.

1221
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: And we were expecting something relatively good. It was it was.

1222
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: It was relatively great. It was very very commendable what

1223
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: he was able to show. I think.

1224
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, look outside, I want to spin

1225
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: it back to you outside of criticizing Better Beef from

1226
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: the standpoint of maybe ages catching up and the guy's

1227
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: thirty eight. Okay, we can't, you know, long amateur career,

1228
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: we can't avoid that. Father time does come knocking. I

1229
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: do think a large percentage of that what I mentioned

1230
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: was overlooking his opponent. But I have to criticize Better

1231
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: Beaf standing in the pocket consistently. I know that's what

1232
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: he does. He breaks you down, he gets inside, and dude,

1233
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: when he's got you cornered, those power shots are clean, accurate,

1234
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: and damaging. That's who he is. But dude, he took

1235
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: on a lot of extra clean shots and was standing

1236
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: in front of it almost waiting to be hit. So

1237
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: I you know, either that's a really bad judgment or

1238
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 2: his idea was, let's get this guy into an action fight.

1239
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: I know, my chintz for real, he's gonna gas out

1240
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: only look in root to eventually guessing out. He nearly

1241
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: have to run and won this fight. You know what

1242
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: I'm saying, He's about two to three score cards. He

1243
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: had Better Beaf rocked and cut. Like, I don't know, dude,

1244
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: either Anthony Yard had the fight of his life or

1245
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: Better Beaf had his eye off the ball. But some

1246
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: combination came together to make a great fight. And now

1247
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: we got to try to figure out exactly what Bevall

1248
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: versus Better Beave looks like I'm not really sure I.

1249
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: Know, Luke, not really. I think you give a Yard

1250
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: a little too much credit. I mean, don't get me

1251
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: wrong again. All the nice things I could say, I'll

1252
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: say them again. And I do think that Better Beev

1253
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: looked a little old at times, right, Like, here's one

1254
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: thing I noticed PC there were times where you could

1255
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: see Better Beev like recognize an opening and then just

1256
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: not throw you know, kind of like wait that one out,

1257
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: I'll wait for the next one. I'm not even saying

1258
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: rationing his offense, just not being quite as physically dynamic

1259
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: and present as he has been in previous years. I

1260
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: saw that. I saw that a little bit. To me,

1261
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: that was definitely a little bit of age that caught

1262
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: up with him. You combine that Yard had an aggressive

1263
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: I think, in many ways interesting and difficult to deal with.

1264
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: Game plan and he's a big puncher. You say, yeah,

1265
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: he's got quick ants. You say he rocked better BEF,

1266
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: he definitely hurt him. I don't think he rocked when

1267
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 1: we might have a different expression. When I hear rocked,

1268
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean he's doing this number.

1269
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: He was not doing that, all right, you know, he

1270
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: rock somebody extreme They do a dance, but you can

1271
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: touch them, change their facial expression, make them take a

1272
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: step back.

1273
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: You know he did do that. We're getting into a

1274
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: game of semantics. I just sort of want to be

1275
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: clear about what we're saying. He did. Agree. I agree

1276
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: that he did do that while you're describing whatever you

1277
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: want to call it. But for me, the reason why

1278
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: better bef won in the end is because, dude, he

1279
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: was just He's more clever, even when he was getting

1280
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: pressed against the ropes. Some of that like retreating back

1281
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: to the ropes. Yes, I'm sure standing in the pocket

1282
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: too long to your point was not a great idea,

1283
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: but he would pull Yard in and then reverse him

1284
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 1: on the ropes every time, and then finish the round

1285
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: unloading on him. Moreover, you look at the right hand

1286
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: that set everything up. He faked Yard into dropping and

1287
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: I think throwing his hands to an uppercut, got out

1288
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: of the way, and then greeted him with an overhand right.

1289
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: He set that up. He can. He tricked Yard into

1290
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: giving him what he wanted so he could land a hard,

1291
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: clean punch. Yard didn't really do that to him. He

1292
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: kind of overwhelmed him at times, but he wasn't as

1293
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: clever as better Beev and for that reason I can't

1294
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: quite agree with the spirit of what you're saying.

1295
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, because here's ultimately better

1296
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: be fought in spurts in ways I didn't think he

1297
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: would need to. Meaning here, what's the NIMA comparison Anderson

1298
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: Silva versus Michael bisbeing in these spurts, Dude, he looked

1299
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: like a million bucks that the two or three times

1300
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: he spun Yard around in the corner like you mentioned,

1301
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: late in the round and just put on the onslaught.

1302
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: You know, look, lot guys get stopped by that. So

1303
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: part of Yards overachieving here was more of the intangible

1304
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 2: categories of hanging in there and being you know, quick

1305
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: and having the threat of the pow or but you know,

1306
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: better be It wasn't extended full on like there. He

1307
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: fought in spurts to a certain level. And I wonder,

1308
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: like you said, packaged with the failure to launch when

1309
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: certain openings were there, is he's slowing down to he

1310
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: take us off the ball. You don't really know, but

1311
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: I will say this, he was jovial in celebration, almost

1312
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: relieved in a way I never would have expected. And

1313
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: then his post fight interview which in Britain, you know

1314
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: they do it outside the ring. I forgot the female

1315
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: broadcasters name they interviewed him. But look, we talked heading

1316
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: in is like ahead of fights. He won't give you anything.

1317
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: He looks angry. Mean, he does speak English and understands

1318
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: it well, but he speaks in like two word phrases

1319
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: and that's it. Dude. Did you see him that postfight

1320
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: press coverage? He was like happy and jovial and talking

1321
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: at length.

1322
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: There was a high level heave London with happy memories

1323
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: and he was all smiles.

1324
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the last time he was there was he

1325
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: had lost to it. Was it in the Olympics. Was

1326
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: he referencing to Usick. I'm not really sure, but yeah,

1327
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: the whole point here, Luke is I think he was relieved.

1328
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: So again, it was what makes fights fun, especially when

1329
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: you're building the bigger fights. You're never gonna count better

1330
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 2: bev out here against Bevall. But we got legitimate questions.

1331
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 2: I wonder what that's gonna do for the betting lines.

1332
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: I wonder what that's gonna do for the game planning.

1333
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: But I think you saw what I saw when that

1334
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: fight ended. Everybody's reaction tweet was.

1335
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 4: This.

1336
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: This is the kind of this is the kind of

1337
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: version of him that Bevall could could pick apart, could

1338
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: control from distance potentially. I mean, you're gonna have to

1339
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: show a chin because better Beef will get inside on you.

1340
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: But it is interesting that better VI's entering the the

1341
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: defining fight of his pro career with a nineteen and

1342
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: o record with nineteen KOs, but at thirty eight, where

1343
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: we're questioning what he has left, it's all just it

1344
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: just adds more story to the overall picture here. This

1345
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: is still bev All. Better be one of the top

1346
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: three or four fights you can make in the sport

1347
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: this year. Two unbeaten champions in a unification on disputed fight,

1348
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: pound for pound, elements involved. It's gonna be massive.

1349
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've heard I heard some British people saying,

1350
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: oh what might be next for better we have is

1351
01:00:58,760 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: Callum Smith.

1352
01:00:59,640 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 4: Is that?

1353
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: How real is that?

1354
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that rumor you saw, of course in

1355
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: the ring afterwards. Better bev basically say, you know, I

1356
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: want I want history, I want the four belts. Let's go,

1357
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: Let's make the bev All fight. I just still have questions, though,

1358
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: Luke on if beev All is still under contract with

1359
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: Eddie Hearn, which I believe he is on the de

1360
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: owned side of things. How easy is that fight to

1361
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: make against better Beef, who has the co promotional deal

1362
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: with top ranking fights on ESPN. So could boxing chicanery

1363
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 2: cause a delay in the super fight where you could

1364
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: slide into account Smith for big money if the promoters.

1365
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if you're Bob aram Luke and you

1366
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: were ringside for that and you saw a great fighter

1367
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: potentially look like he got old in there, do you

1368
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: want to try to maxim out in England and bring

1369
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: on other big names and get you might want to

1370
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: do that. I do know the powers that be in

1371
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: this situation seem to want this fight. Why wouldn't you

1372
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: want to fight between two unbeaten guys both not marketable

1373
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: per se in their own right, although bev All being

1374
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 2: the Fighter of the Year last year has raised his

1375
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: profile considering considerably. You want to make an undisputed fight

1376
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: like this? But will they? I hope, I hope Luke.

1377
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: I don't need Callum Smith next I need it.

1378
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, I have no answert in

1379
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: Callum Smith fight. I respect Callum Smith. He is a great,

1380
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: he is a he is a he is just that

1381
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: a very respectable talent. But better be off choose right

1382
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: through him? Sorry? Uh?

1383
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: Or does he luke because he's supposed to chew right

1384
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: through Anthony Yr. Let's be fair, Anthony Ard made a leap, yes,

1385
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 2: but even making a leap better to be still should

1386
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: have probably been better.

1387
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: If you can't handle the power punching of Canelo, you

1388
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: have your hopeless against better Be. I mean, come on,

1389
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: there's no chance, not a chance.

1390
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: Well it is a different way class. Yeah, I wonder

1391
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: what that how that changes things?

1392
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: But I hear you here, fair enough, Okay, But here's

1393
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to point out. The Bivol fight. To me,

1394
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: someone asked me my early read. I'm gonna ask you yours,

1395
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: b see, but my early read again. When I say

1396
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: early read, you have the right to change your opinion

1397
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: based on what happens between now in the fight. Whatever

1398
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: official prediction. My early read is Bivoll beats him, and

1399
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: I think Bivoll's jab and movement it's not to do

1400
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: all of these guys they keep I guess here's the thing.

1401
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: Better Bef kind of forces you into his fight a

1402
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: little bit because I think, partly to your point, he

1403
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: does stand in that pocket being like, come on, fucking

1404
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: hit me, you know, a little bit like that, and

1405
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: it forces guys into bad game plans at time. I

1406
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna work all that well against Bivol,

1407
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: especially since Bivall is arguably the better mover between them

1408
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: and the better jabber between them. I don't know how

1409
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: far the better mover and JA yeah, like and I

1410
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: and also younger and whatever else. The thing is this,

1411
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: because better Be fights that way, guys end up being like,

1412
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: all right, I guess I'm gonna have to fight fire

1413
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: with fire against better BM. I'm gonna I'm gonna meet him,

1414
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have a contest of physicality. But fellas,

1415
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: you can't win that one, not with this guy. It

1416
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. Sorry, he's the final game boss

1417
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: in that sense. I don't think Bivall has even the

1418
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: slightest degree of interest in wanting to do that and

1419
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: doesn't need to to win a twelve round boxing contest,

1420
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: which doesn't make it not dangerous. It's dangerous, but Bivall

1421
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: has all the skills already. Yeah, I think to give

1422
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: better Be of a lot of problems.

1423
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so the who should be favored, it should be Bivoll.

1424
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: Do I think he would win based on what we

1425
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 2: know right now? I do, but I don't. You know,

1426
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: it's certainly not easy at all, because if there's levels

1427
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 2: to this game, and there is even thirty eight year

1428
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: old better, beav is just simply at a different level

1429
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 2: than Zerto Ramirez. Who Bevall in that big fight, the

1430
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: second fight of his twenty twenty two campaign, which lifted

1431
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: him to Fighter of the Year after upsetting Canelo, was

1432
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: you know, he dominated Zerdo Luke. I mean, he made

1433
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: Zerdo really have to question doing, you know, doing Zerto

1434
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: things and standing in the pocket and landing big shots,

1435
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: because this was always the criticism we had against Bevall

1436
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: when he had so many boring title defenses from distance

1437
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: just doing the amateur thing. Is when somebody has to

1438
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 2: make him fight canny standing there and fight back. Can

1439
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 2: he handle himself in there well against both Canelo and Zerto. Dude,

1440
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 2: he handled himself in such an insane manner that that's

1441
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: why he's now the fighter of the Year and in

1442
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: your top ten pounds for pound, meaning Bevall, he stood

1443
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: in the post getting landed such cleaning combinations and backed

1444
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: the guy up and just showed that his power when

1445
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: packaged like that can be something. But Better viav has

1446
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: a crazy chin, but Better Beav carries his power late

1447
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: even if beev All can control from this. Let's not

1448
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: forget Alexander Alexander Vosdik, who fought Better Viv when they

1449
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: were both unbeaten in a light heavyweight title unification bout.

1450
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: Vodzick had moments during the first half of that fight,

1451
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: big moments controlling the action. He's very Bevall like Vodzick

1452
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: in terms of the amateur European background and boxing from

1453
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: distance doesn't maybe have the same level pop. But what

1454
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: happened in that fight was Vosdick was getting control with

1455
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: the boxing, and Better Beef slowly broke him down, stopped him,

1456
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: and actually retired him in that fight. So can Beval

1457
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: carry that same level of control even if he steps

1458
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: into his power shots and fights Better Beav off, which

1459
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 2: he'll have to. Can you do that for twelve rounds?

1460
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: Can you do that that one Better be backs you

1461
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: up into the ropes? Those are gonna be the big

1462
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 2: questions that need answering. Of really, how tough is beeval

1463
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: actually because Luke as skilled as he is, and that

1464
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: skill allowed him to bully Zerdo. I don't think better

1465
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: Beef gets bullied like that, and I just don't.

1466
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: Think he does unless he gets tired. You can get tired,

1467
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: So like the body work of Bivoll, also might be

1468
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: important to see. I like the way you set that

1469
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: up and made it, and I made it I think

1470
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: presented it as a there's more parody here than maybe

1471
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: it sounded like I was giving it. I think your

1472
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: assessment is better, so that's great. I can't wait to

1473
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: see it. I really hope they make it again. I

1474
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: still would say my early read is Bivoll gets it done.

1475
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: But to your point, plenty of reasons to think otherwise,

1476
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: and or to just see the fight in general anyway,

1477
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: title unification being perhaps one of the most important ones

1478
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: of all of them. Can't wait to see it if

1479
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: in fact they make it. All right BC last, but

1480
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: serially not least, topic number five here. You know what,

1481
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: we had a bit of a light weekend. We had

1482
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: the sort of mid to late afternoon here on the

1483
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: East Coast fight with Better biven Yard. Not really a

1484
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: whole lot of high level MMA beyond the regional scene. However,

1485
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: that changes on Saturday. Belatsoor two ninety of course, will

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Speaker 1: be on Saturday on CBS Slash Paramount. Plus. There's also

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Speaker 1: a UFC fighting that card. A man A Serrano is

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: back in the boxing ring at Madison Square Garden. There's

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Speaker 1: actually a lot happening this weekend, so BC, between between

1490
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: beltsor UFC boxing, tell me a fight you are most

1491
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: looking forward to this weekend and why I couldn't break

1492
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: the tie.

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01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: I got two fights for you here that I'm really

1494
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: keen on it obviously beyond the headliners. And you know,

1495
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: fad Or versus Bet or maybe it's Beta versus Fader

1496
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: is massive. So is the Johnny Eblin very tough title

1497
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 2: defense against Tokoff there for the Middleway Championship in Belatore.

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Speaker 2: But Luke, I'm gonna start that UFC fight Night card

1499
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: that goes down at the Apex. Where was I? I

1500
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: didn't even know this was happening, dude. You know how

1501
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 2: big of a doo? Who Choi Fan? I was Korean

1502
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: superboy guy that arrived on the scene as a rising

1503
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: prospect many years back and was delivering big nightknockouts until

1504
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: he found himself in three consecutive wars, obviously the one

1505
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: with Cub Swanson being an all time or a Hall

1506
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: of Fame fight and losing three in a row, retiring

1507
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 2: from the sport. Luke, he's back after nearly a three

1508
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: and a half year layoff, retirement, whatever you want to

1509
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 2: call it. He's going to be back in a featherweight

1510
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 2: bout against Kyle Nelson. Dude, did you know, dud who

1511
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 2: Troy was calling back?

1512
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: Luke?

1513
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: One of seriously, one of my It was a it

1514
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: was a brief shooting star when he came on the scene,

1515
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: but one of those guys that I just wanted to

1516
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 2: be great because I loved his attitude, I loved his game.

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Speaker 2: I'm being told here, Luke, by our people that it

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01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 2: was maybe military service. I don't think it was it

1519
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: the mandatory military military service that that the Korean Zombie

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01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 2: also went through Luke.

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01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: So that would have been four years. I don't recall him.

1522
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 2: I thought this was yeah, I thought this was stepping

1523
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 2: away after three straight damaging losses, you know, in which

1524
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: he had moments, of course, but but couldn't pull together

1525
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: either way. He's back. What do you what do you

1526
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: what do you believe at at thirty one? And he's

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01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 2: from South Korea, so you know, I don't know. I'd

1528
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 2: have to look up the potential military placements here. But

1529
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: he pulled out of a fight in twenty twenty one

1530
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,839
Speaker 2: Luke with an injury, So maybe I'm overplaying this retirement.

1531
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Did he not retire?

1532
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: Dude? I haven't thought about Dujo Choi in a while.

1533
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely certain about the specifics of his career

1534
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: right now. I don't I don't recall. Certainly the Korean

1535
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: zombie had to take four years away from military service,

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01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: that's true. I don't think dot excuse me, I don't

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01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: think that Dujochoi got an exemption to that, so he

1538
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: would have had to as well. But I can't say

1539
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: for certain this is this is your fight, so you

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01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: tell me?

1541
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I you know, I guess I should

1542
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: have had better better information on there. But look, I'm

1543
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 2: really looking to see you know. He reminds me of

1544
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 2: Tom Dukinwah Luke, another guy who kind of came out

1545
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: of nowhere, made big fun fights and then just left,

1546
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 2: say just left the same time. I'm out before he

1547
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: can maximize that. Okay, So that's what I'm looking for

1548
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: on that side. But I wanted to specifically tailor this

1549
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 2: to you because that opening fight on the Bellator on

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01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 2: CBS Card Saturday Night here February fourth, coming up this weekend, Dude,

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01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: Brennan Ward versus SABAHOMASI is just smart matchmaking from the

1552
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 2: idea of let's just take two all action bangers will

1553
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: put him out there right like following you know, Paul

1554
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: Day just retired, but following in the footsteps of that,

1555
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: let's just put these two guys in there and go

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01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 2: to war. And by the way, both of these guys

1557
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 2: did fight Paul Daily. But Luke the side of the

1558
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: equation on Brennan Ward. You know Connecticut background all that

1559
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: I know you talk to him. People can check out

1560
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 2: that interview at YouTube dot com. Slash Morning Combat King

1561
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: of Connecticut factors in on this, Luke. But I know

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 2: his backstory as well as you and anybody else as

1563
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: dark a turn into drugs as you possibly could have

1564
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: had pulls himself out of there. His backstory is insane.

1565
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: He's won a couple comeback fights. He's the same all

1566
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: or nothing slugger he's always been and that isn't looking

1567
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 2: to change. But after talking to him at length, like

1568
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Speaker 2: what do you really feel about the prospects of this fight?

1569
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 2: We expect it to be a war, and if he wins,

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01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: this is he like, is this comeback story? Not just

1571
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 2: to get back to this point, not just to get clean?

1572
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: Could he actually make noise in the bellat or standings

1573
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: in this division.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Brendan Ward has always been a

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Speaker 1: really good athlete. Like you could say whatever else about him,

1576
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: but he's been a good athlete. Obviously, he has a

1577
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: wrestling Pardon me, eh, he has a wrestling background. And

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Speaker 1: you know, if you listen to the interview, he's training

1579
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: in ways he just quite literally hasn't done since twenty fourteen.

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01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: He got into the sport very young. He's thirty four,

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01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 1: so even though he's missed a ton of time, he's

1582
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: still got, you know, a little bit of time to

1583
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: do something special. He loves the opponent, he loves the

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01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: way the opponent fights. You know, I don't really know

1585
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: what I don't know what the future holds for Brennan Ward.

1586
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: The only thing I can say with any degree of

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01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: certainty is that he is and maybe for the first

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01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: time ever, putting himself in his best position to get

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01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: the most out of himself. He is training at Johnson

1590
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: and Wales, which I know is a sort of a

1591
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: culinary institute, but they have a I think a D

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01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: three wrestling organization. He's out there and there a good

1593
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: one by the way. He's out there wrestling with them

1594
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: as well. Like dude, he's just crossing every te and

1595
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: dotting every eye for the first time in his life.

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01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: And when you hear him explain what he had to

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Speaker 1: do to get sober, the levels of all the parts

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Speaker 1: of his life that had to change, he's not saying

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Speaker 1: words that sound comforting. Yeah, my man was in the trenches,

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01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: not just the trenches of despair, but the trenches of

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01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 1: recovery as well, and all of the stops on that

1602
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: awful highway that you have to take, and all of

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: the mental battles you have to win along that journey. Dude,

1604
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Speaker 1: he live that too, And now he's in a place

1605
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: where he is I'm assuming, quite clean, sober, clear headed. Work.

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01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: He is still a union member. Work gave him time

1607
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: off to do nothing but train. He's doing two and

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01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: three days. Dude, I don't know if he can beat

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01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 1: Sabaja Massi, but I know that you're gonna get probably

1610
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: a very very very good version of Brennan Ward and

1611
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: that might be enough to really push himself into posentially

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01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 1: a special territory in militaria.

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01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's always been a firecracker, not

1614
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 2: just in his fighting style, but you know, interview is

1615
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: a big F word type, big F bomb type guy.

1616
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: But you know, he took four and a half years

1617
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: off and coming just coming back is a monster victory

1618
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: when you consider he did jail time, he was deeply

1619
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: addicted to the hardest of hardest drugs, rehab and and

1620
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 2: you find out rehab and you find on top of that,

1621
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: like he literally didn't train in his prime when when Luke,

1622
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 2: when we saw him, you know, fight those names I mentioned,

1623
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,839
Speaker 2: like Paul Day, dude, he was not literally not training

1624
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: at all, was doing drugs. So it's one thing to

1625
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 2: stop the you know, mid level, lower level competition guys

1626
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: he just did. But Saba Umasi is a big opportunity

1627
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 2: for him to make fireworks. But you're doing it on CBS.

1628
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 2: He's got a great story, which you know they're going

1629
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: to tell. He wins this, Luke, you wonder if there

1630
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 2: are big, much bigger things to head ahead at age

1631
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: thirty four for him, even with the miles he's already

1632
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: put on himself physically and mentally. I cheer for this

1633
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: type of turnaround story for anyone. There's no question about it.

1634
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 2: And I am dialed in on this one heading into

1635
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: there so everyone could check out the interview Luke did

1636
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: as well. Hey, Luke, I got another interview coming this week,

1637
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: by the way, already put it in the can mak

1638
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: Mud abdul Rauf on Morning Combat.

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01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: Someone our producer says, check Ig Dana and Logan Paul

1640
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: just did a joint post on IG. It's basically a

1641
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: sizzle reel of Logan talking about wanting to fight in

1642
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: the UFC, then closes with a major announcement tomorrow. Yeah,

1643
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: I don't care.

1644
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 2: Wait, is Logan Paul gonna take a UFC fight?

1645
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: Luke? I mean if CM punk did, what's stopping Logan Paul?

1646
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: Who's a better athlete? You know? Okay, we's stopping him.

1647
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: They'll find somebody for him to fight. Yeah, I mean

1648
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: they do gimmicks like this all the time, all right, BC.

1649
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: For me, I will tell you what man like when

1650
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: Beltore cards are kind of nubs, I'll say it on

1651
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: the show. I really don't mind. This one's not. This

1652
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: one's good. This one is. This is a good card.

1653
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: I could pick a lot of fights on this Beltre card, which,

1654
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: by the gay, I'm gonna say one more time, not

1655
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: on showtime, It's on CBS on Saturday at Paramount Plus.

1656
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: First of all, the Johnny Eblin and until we to

1657
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: cav fight. I know Evelyn just beat Musas, but dude,

1658
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: Tokov might win this one. That dude is tough to beat.

1659
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: He is very talented, great finisher, great attacker from the back,

1660
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: well rounded, thirty four pro fights, thirty one and three

1661
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: record experienced. I mean that is a very very close

1662
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: fight Number one. I love that contest. But dude, you

1663
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: can go down the list. How about Max Roschkoff, who had,

1664
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: you know, the issue with the UFC where he was

1665
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: supposed to come out of his corner and he didn't

1666
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: want to and blah blah blah, and then he went

1667
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: on the sojourn. Well he's back in Belatore. Now he's

1668
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: gonna take on Chris Gonzalez, the guy who just thought

1669
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: whos been number made out of Team Alpha Male. You

1670
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: can go on down the list BC. There's a ton

1671
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 1: of Russian prospects they have, including but not limited to,

1672
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: at heavyweight. Steve Mawory. You're Connecticut boy taking on ali

1673
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: Is Saya of ali Asaia of two thousand and eight Olympian.

1674
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: He was a European champion, and I think he's a

1675
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: freestyle I think freestyle wrestling. Maybe grecol Rumin have to

1676
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: double check, but he's undefeated. I think he's gonna be

1677
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: This might be his Belaitoar debut or at least a

1678
01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:00,799
Speaker 1: second fight. Yeah, his Belaitary debut after going undefeated in PFL.

1679
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,560
Speaker 1: So he's over here now. Darien Caldwell is on this

1680
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 1: card as well. Lorenz Larkin is on this card, and

1681
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: even Gracie is on this card. Up and down there's

1682
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: fights to check out. I'm actually, like, genuinely looking forward

1683
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: to this. By the way, you're asking nine pm East

1684
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: coastart for Better versus fad or two on CBS. Yeah.

1685
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: By the way, Steve Maori, although I like him, big

1686
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: Steve not a Connecticut guy.

1687
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: Luke born in.

1688
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh, fights fights out of kill Cliff down there and

1689
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 2: also used to spar CBS Sports Combat Sports Senior editor

1690
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: Brandon Wise once he joined Hard Knocks three to sixty

1691
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: five as a civilian Luke and then ended up in

1692
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: sparring matches with Big Steve. I mean, Brandon, what are

1693
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: you doing?

1694
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: Bro right? Also BC the BC Special at one twenty five,

1695
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:47,759
Speaker 1: Diana Avsara Gova taking on Alejandra Alata out of Columbia,

1696
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: but she fights out of Mexico. BC. I know that

1697
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: really is really got you.

1698
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: I reject that reputation, Luke. I'm trying to turn over

1699
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: a new leaf here, but damn does all the handra

1700
01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: Laara need to win, Luke?

1701
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,839
Speaker 1: Right? Yah? She really does to that point, she badly.

1702
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: And here's an opponent who's tough but only has five

1703
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: pro fights. She has fourteen or fifteen excuse me, so

1704
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: it should be winnable. I look right.

1705
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: I love her fighting spirit, Luke. She does, you know,

1706
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: the dances heading in usually at the way into something

1707
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 2: to raise awareness. But she's nine and six overall, three

1708
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 2: fight losing streak, has lost five of her last seven.

1709
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: So this feels like, you know, can you turn that

1710
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: corner right now? Yeah? But no, like you mentioned this

1711
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 2: undercard this preliminary card excuse Me, which will air live

1712
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 2: on YouTube and Pluto TV, loaded with names during call.

1713
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean so many across the board, So don't miss

1714
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: out on that, a three fight main card. I'll be

1715
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,799
Speaker 2: looking forward to that. Luke does Derek Lewis Sergey Spivack

1716
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 2: movie you at all? I don't think you're moved.

1717
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean it does. But like you know, they've got

1718
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: all these Korean fighters on there. I'm told obviously to

1719
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,879
Speaker 1: promote the product in Korea and for their television holders

1720
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 1: over there, rights holders, which is fine. I mean, I

1721
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: don't really care about that one way the other.

1722
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 2: But one am Eastern start time, one am Eastern.

1723
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: For That's what I'm saying for a man. So they're

1724
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: gonna fight at what like three three thirty, Like, no,

1725
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm not staying up till three thirty in the morning

1726
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: to watch that. I know all the Irish and the

1727
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: UK fans, this is what we do all the time, folks.

1728
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: What you don't do, here's what you don't do. You

1729
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: don't stay up till three in the morning for sporting

1730
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: contests in your country. That's what you don't do, because

1731
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: no one puts them on there like that, except for

1732
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 1: the UFC when they did like Dan Henderson versus UFC,

1733
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: which is for American audiences, which is why they did that. Anyway,

1734
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 1: the Premier League games don't start at one am London time.

1735
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: They don't fucking do that. So give me a break

1736
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 1: with all that shit in this country.

1737
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: Remember Ricky Hatton's breakthrough title winover Coast Jazoo Luke. That

1738
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 2: was on Showtime. They aired that live East Coast on Showtime,

1739
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 2: which was like three or four in the morning overseas

1740
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: where the fight was. You know, set from combat.

1741
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: Sports will abuse their audiences in that way, but in

1742
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: Ja roll the major sports don't do that. So great.

1743
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: But I'll watch it the next day, is I guess

1744
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The hours after it takes place. I'll

1745
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: just get up and watch it all my TV. So

1746
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 1: all right, BC, that is it for us here. Uh

1747
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: So let me get to this one. BC. The day

1748
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: has finally come where re announced the the this month's

1749
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 1: money Lion Hammer of the Month Award. Yay. First and foremost,

1750
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 1: of course, we're gona give a big thinking to everyone

1751
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: who voted on social media. We appreciate you. We looked

1752
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: through all the nominations and while we wish we could

1753
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: give this award to every one, of course we cannot.

1754
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: So we made our final selection and excited to share

1755
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: to share that today BC, who hears who was nominated?

1756
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: Number one? You had Umar number Gamidov, you had two

1757
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: Ismael bond Fime, three Gelatin al Meda, A lot of

1758
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: Brazilians on there, and then four out of Venezuela, Roman Villa.

1759
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 2: Don't forget about Bruno Fijeda. We threw him in there

1760
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 2: as well.

1761
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Brune Forjedo as well. I apologize, all right,

1762
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 1: but we have to choose a winner, and so the

1763
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: winner of this month's money and Hammer of the month

1764
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: is uh it is Umar number madeoff. He is your winner.

1765
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: He is the selection this month. Again thanks to everyone

1766
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: who voted. We're gonna get a trophy to him and

1767
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. So of course you have Aaron Blanchfield,

1768
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: we have Iliot Taporia and now BC we have the

1769
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: great Umar.

1770
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: Number of thoughts on us now, Luke, I know we

1771
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 2: have you know flat Ray International shipping on Morningcombat Dot stored.

1772
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 2: Does that same Flatwright go to getting the hammer in

1773
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: Ilia Taporia's hands for winning it last month.

1774
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: I believe that's right. We're working out the details there.

1775
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, can't wait to see that guy sporting now, Umar,

1776
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 2: who looked the hard course right, the hardest of the

1777
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 2: hard calls have told us from day one that you

1778
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 2: could get all excited about Habib, you can get all

1779
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 2: excited about Islam Usman and Magha Metov, but Umar is

1780
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: the best of the group. Luke, under team abdulmen app

1781
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 2: there's still time for that to be a real thing,

1782
01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 2: you know that, right.

1783
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: He might be, He might be. I don't think that's crazy.

1784
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: When people just know stuff, Luke, Okay, they're on the inside,

1785
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 2: they just know stuff.

1786
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: It's true. It's certainly true.

1787
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: All right, hammer bro hashtags hammer all right.

1788
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: So again thanks to everyone. Congratulations to Umartin. I'merga made off.

1789
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: We appreciate everyone who took part in that. And again

1790
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: thanks to money Lion for helping put that all together.

1791
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: All right. See, let's get to it now. It's not

1792
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: where you or I ask each other questions. It's time

1793
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: for the donks to ask us questions. It's time for

1794
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: dms from the donks. Haw.

1795
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he ha, all that good freaking haw. Yeah, We've

1796
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,480
Speaker 2: got mails.

1797
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: All right from at James Mitchell's is how it was

1798
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: written here Mitchell ss? Why would why would you put

1799
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 1: ss in your name? Okay? But he did? Uh? What

1800
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: do you think the chances are we end twenty twenty

1801
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: three without an American born slash naturalized champion. That's only

1802
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: Hill and Sterling currently. What do you think you see

1803
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna lose all the American champs?

1804
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: Are you trying to say it's downtime right now for

1805
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 2: American MMA? Luke at the highest levels. Is that what

1806
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 2: you're trying to say? Because people were saying that about

1807
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 2: Brazil recently.

1808
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: That's what this gentleman is asking.

1809
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 2: I mean, things come and go. The titles changed quickly, Luke. Okay,

1810
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 2: so buckle up. You know we got a lot of

1811
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: you know, I don't try to look at MMA from

1812
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: a nationalistic sense, you know what I mean. I don't

1813
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 2: even go yay go damn Yankees? You know, I mean,

1814
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 2: like whatever. But do you think this is a trend?

1815
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: Luke?

1816
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't feel it is. I just feel that that's

1817
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 2: where we're at the moment.

1818
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: I think everything's I think everything is cyclical. But it

1819
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: is evidence that like the global expansion of the game

1820
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: is going to make it harder for Americans to dominate

1821
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: the way they once have. Yeah.

1822
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 2: Sure, well, look, dude, these hammer countries are a problem

1823
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: right now on the sport in MMA. They're all coming.

1824
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: On, Luke.

1825
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 2: Okay, the Greater Dagistan, Extended Russian former Russian, Eastern European countries,

1826
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 2: Central Asia. I mean like they're that whole region is

1827
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: just exploding on this level at the high you know,

1828
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 2: at the highest promotions across the board. You know, do

1829
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 2: you do you want to offer advice to America can MMA,

1830
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 2: to the to the American artists of Marshall Luke of

1831
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: how we can turn this trend back around for old

1832
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 2: Daddy Yanky over here and and and the stars and stripes.

1833
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: Uh I don't get better.

1834
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 2: On your takedown defense.

1835
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's about it, all right? From CLP Film BC.

1836
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: Did you old washed dads hear about Bigfoot Silver possibly

1837
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: going to the Slap Dick League? Yes, yeah, go ahead.

1838
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: The worst idea Has there ever been a worse idea

1839
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:33,799
Speaker 1: in human history?

1840
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of really bad ideas in human history,

1841
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: a lot of those related to MMA, unfortunately. But yeah,

1842
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: Antonio Bigfoot Silver, who you'll be seeing and have you

1843
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 2: seen this ship? Luke, You're about to rate his new tat.

1844
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you this. He posted a photo of

1845
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 2: this with the slap and wondered on Instagram how he

1846
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 2: would do, please, please, please, good lord, let's let's get

1847
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: this guy retired. Okay, how many more?

1848
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, if folks, I know that like back in the day,

1849
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: it's less of a thing these days, but like it

1850
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: used to be back in the day where folks be like,

1851
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: oh my god, MMA is or you know, ultimate fighting

1852
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: is what people called it in the aughts, is just

1853
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: too violent for me. This is you know, this is

1854
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: not sport. This is this is barbarian acts. And I'm

1855
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: always like, lady, I'm not saying that this is not

1856
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: difficult to watch for some I can buy that it is.

1857
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: But if you think this is the bottom of the barrel,

1858
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: oh oh, let me introduce you to BKFC. Let me

1859
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: introduce you to slap Dick. Let me introduce they. I

1860
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: mean the levels at which it can get grimier than

1861
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: MMA are.

1862
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: I mean, we got Diego Sanchez and a bare knuckle

1863
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,879
Speaker 2: man event coming up. We were fighting against the optics

1864
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: of this slap. I just want to answer one quick thing,

1865
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 2: because everybody's you know, these are grown adults who can

1866
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 2: sent to this. That's fine, Okay. If there's slap league

1867
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 2: competitions in other countries or at your local bar, that's

1868
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: one thing. It's an entirely different thing when UFC has

1869
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 2: their own slap league and is using all of their

1870
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 2: arms and tentacles to promote, sanitize and do all that.

1871
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: And if I have to hear another time or see

1872
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 2: another video online about Dana going hey, dummy, this was

1873
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: the same feedback I heard when I launched MMA. But

1874
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 2: we're getting the shit regulated. I don't care if you

1875
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: have every single doctor in the world, along with at

1876
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: Zuck renting out the APEX and standing there. Those doctors

1877
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: can do tests before the slaps Luke, and they can

1878
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 2: do it after they can't start the CTE from arriving. Okay,

1879
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: that's that's just the reality of the situation. So let's

1880
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: end any debate considering that if you like it, go

1881
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,480
Speaker 2: watch it. But the fact that the UFC is unapologetically

1882
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 2: doing this is the central issue in this debate. End

1883
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 2: of topic.

1884
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: Also, if you like it, you're probably stupid. I mean,

1885
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: I can't guarantee that that's not necessarily I.

1886
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 2: Mean, some people like gross, you know, adult films to

1887
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,560
Speaker 2: the level where you're like, is it even legal that

1888
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 2: they film them? That they're watching it?

1889
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Luke, are you? Are you

1890
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: projecting right now?

1891
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 2: I'm throwing look at my search. I currently don't live

1892
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:02,879
Speaker 2: in a glasshouse in that category.

1893
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: Look, okay, you know what I mean. You watched very

1894
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, romantic pornography.

1895
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm not watching.

1896
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 1: He's like, you know what I need in my pornography,

1897
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 1: romance dialogue, go on dates.

1898
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 2: Channon Tweed. Okay, Andrew Stevens the Night Eyes franchise.

1899
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: And he's the only guy who's like, pornography just does

1900
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: not have enough romance. I really can't just it's not enough.

1901
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: It's not enough.

1902
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,839
Speaker 2: I'm not crying to be porn shame me anymore.

1903
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, that's that's.

1904
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 2: That's the end of this conversation.

1905
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Speaker 1: All right, from at math dot you dot sale dot

1906
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: Era just the worst fucking name in the world. Would

1907
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: Prime Tony Fergus and Brian Campbell have done better against

1908
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: Habib than Olavera did against Islam?

1909
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 2: Yes, I think, yeah, I agree with that. I definitely

1910
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: agree with you.

1911
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: OLIVERA didn't do shit to Islam. That's the problem.

1912
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was ten ten bad minutes, as he said,

1913
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: But stylistically, dude, dude, let's not act like that wasn't

1914
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: just oh he happened to take him down and submit him. Dude,

1915
01:26:58,280 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 2: he was lighting him up on the feet.

1916
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: That's what led to the to the filth, which I

1917
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: just I feel like Tony would you know, spinning backfisted

1918
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: his way into getting taken down eventually or whatever, but

1919
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, he would have touched up. I think Habib

1920
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 1: a little bit more than what.

1921
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 2: Look proverbial firearm to your head. And I don't even

1922
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 2: like saying that, Luke.

1923
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: Okay, but.

1924
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 2: Like, is it in play that Islam passes Habib in

1925
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 2: terms of being in terms of greatness? Is that still possible?

1926
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it's.

1927
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: Still possible, like possible, difficult, I mean, he is a

1928
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: different stoppage loss right, Yeah, that's bad, and then he

1929
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: would have to beat a real cast of guys to

1930
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: get his name in that way. But it's possible. It's possible. Yeah,

1931
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: all right? All right? From Zach Bulden BC over under

1932
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 1: two and a half. All right, amount of Margarita's, Luke

1933
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 1: consumes at the live show before he utters the phrase

1934
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel these Margaritos, Brian Campbell.

1935
01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 2: I'm feeling the Margarita's Brian Campbell. I believe we will

1936
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 2: not be drinking at the live show, Luke. This is

1937
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: a professional music, music venue, and you know we are

1938
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 2: we are invited, We are invited guests. We're not handling

1939
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 2: the production. So shout out to the great folks there

1940
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 2: at the Sports podcast Group and pod Live. But Luke,

1941
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: there is some talks about like taking the after party

1942
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 2: to a pub, and I know you don't love this

1943
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 2: idea because they're coming. The zombies are coming, and they're

1944
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: gonna touch you, and they're gonna consider harvesting your organs

1945
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:29,839
Speaker 2: if they can get enough. Margarite.

1946
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: Also, so also, we are gonna I mean, I don't

1947
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: know which one. I don't know which one it will be.

1948
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: But if we do that, just so it's clear, you

1949
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: and I are both gonna get a communicable disease at

1950
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: that point.

1951
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: I just want to be very or or ketamine slipped

1952
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,440
Speaker 2: into our delta. A look, something bad's.

1953
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,879
Speaker 1: Gonna probably yes, probably, yeah, I don't.

1954
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 2: Know, but uh yeah, we're gonna have fun, We're gonna

1955
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 2: see our fans. But no, Luke, you're gonna hold it

1956
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: together this time.

1957
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: You know they're not. We are. This is for folks

1958
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: with like, let's explain the difference. Are not just randomly

1959
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 1: in the UK, like renting out a venue for an

1960
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: MK show.

1961
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 2: If that was the case, we'd be going hog wild

1962
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 2: and you'd have to deal with the sag. You know

1963
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1964
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 1: That's that's exactly right. Instead, this is a podcast festival

1965
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: of which we are headlining, so it's a little bit

1966
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: of like, you know, it's their house. We got to

1967
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 1: play a little bit by their rules. Yeah, so don't

1968
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,839
Speaker 1: don't get us wrong. We've got some fun stuff planned.

1969
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: But you know, BC's gonna keep his pants on.

1970
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 2: As the point of anyone expecting like gg Allen to

1971
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 2: open for Gwar, it's just not going to happen at

1972
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: this venue. That doesn't mean it's not going to be

1973
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 2: the most dynamic ninety minutes in you know, combat sports

1974
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: podcasting history.

1975
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: It's BC might eat a specs that is on the table.

1976
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a little high brow. But Luke, you know,

1977
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 2: unless they're testing my bloodstream before I walk in there,

1978
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 2: all bets are off, right, all bets are.

1979
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: Fucking off okay, and then last but not least BC,

1980
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: last but not least. I don't quite understand this question

1981
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: at Cole Underscore Brown eight five eight. If you had

1982
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: to either go to jail for a year or go

1983
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: to jail with a Rubik's Cube and you get to

1984
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: leave when you finish it, which one are you choosing?

1985
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: Are you guys struggling with Rubik's cubes out there?

1986
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 4: Where?

1987
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 2: Did I just I just saw that? What show? Did

1988
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: I just see that that that question asked on anybody?

1989
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. Am I doing some stupid bit from

1990
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: a TV show?

1991
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1992
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 1: Say it now they're going to take the video of it.

1993
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: I literally, in the last forty eight hours was watching

1994
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 2: something where that question was asked in the show what

1995
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: was it.

1996
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: Saying?

1997
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 2: It's a recent debate. I saw it on some TV show.

1998
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not really sure.

1999
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 1: Are people thinking it takes a year to solve a

2000
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: Rubik's Cube?

2001
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 2: I got it? I got it. I was I was

2002
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 2: watching an episode of bull Luke my wife and I are,

2003
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 2: you know, going going back through that show season by season,

2004
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:40,839
Speaker 2: and I saw that asked in there.

2005
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: You could solve it in an afternoon or at least

2006
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 1: a couple of days.

2007
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 2: Well, so if you were if you had a chance,

2008
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 2: like if you were going to be put away, right,

2009
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 2: if you're going to be put away?

2010
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: So wait, what's the Mikey is explaining this like, I

2011
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: don't get it. Mikey, I get it. The idea is, yes,

2012
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: you could go there with the Rubik's cube, but what

2013
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: if it takes you a long time? The year in

2014
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: certain cases would be less. What I'm trying to say

2015
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: is if it takes you a year to figure out

2016
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 1: a Rubik's cube, You're a fucking idiot. That's what I'm

2017
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: trying to It doesn't it should not take you a year.

2018
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: That's crazy to me, right am I out of my mind?

2019
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 2: I got it now. I saw THEO Vaughn on a

2020
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: clip talk about that as well, Luke also in the

2021
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 2: last forty eight hours. Okay, so it must be a

2022
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:34,600
Speaker 2: it must be a hip thing right now to debate that.

2023
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't done one of these since I

2024
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 1: don't know, I was in my teens or something, but.

2025
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess given your background in debate club and

2026
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:44,799
Speaker 2: as a math.

2027
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: Leate math team.

2028
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that your balls deep in Rubik's Cube

2029
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: and you're just not admitting it.

2030
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: And you know I don't own one. I don't own one.

2031
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: I haven't played with one. I was never one of

2032
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: those kids when people are like and then do it fast.

2033
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: But like I could solve it, like on a car

2034
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: ride or something, you know what I mean? Like I don't.

2035
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to quite understand, Like you have a

2036
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: year to figure this out, Like, okay, I'll take the

2037
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: Rubics cube, Like, how is this the thing? I don't?

2038
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 2: All right? Well, you know, okay, when they they check

2039
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 2: your bags at customs, Luke, you're gonna you're gonna get

2040
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna find this equation out, you know what I mean.

2041
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great.

2042
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 1: So is a live show Luked as a Rubik's Cube

2043
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: in under X minutes or else he covers the tap

2044
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: to your post live show. Listen, here's how this is

2045
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: gonna go. You give me one of those gonna I'm

2046
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna chuck that motherfucker into the audience too. If you

2047
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 1: think I won't dine and dash, let me explain something

2048
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: to you. I will.

2049
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 2: What about a scenario in which I stand fully clothed,

2050
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 2: we set a timer, you get handed the Rubics cube,

2051
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 2: I begin a strip tease. You have to solve it

2052
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 2: before I get before I drop my dungarees, as you

2053
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 2: would say, and we all get fired and never asked

2054
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 2: back in the country again.

2055
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not hold on. I want to be very

2056
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: clear about this. I'm not in any way suggesting I'm

2057
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: a genius with the Rubik's Cube. That's not my point.

2058
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 1: My point only is if the choice is whenever you're

2059
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: done or a year, Yeah, I'm gonna take whatever I'm done.

2060
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: You mean to tell me you can. You couldn't figure

2061
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 1: that out in a month.

2062
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 2: So I've never made much progress on that thing, Luke.

2063
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 2: That's not my type of That's not my type of thing.

2064
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 1: All right.

2065
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm more of like, hey, can I win this? You

2066
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 2: know victory Royale on Fortnite against ninety nine? You know,

2067
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 2: sub teenagers. They don't know I'm a dad, Luke, but

2068
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 2: you know I'm bringing it. I'm bringing that dad energy.

2069
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm taking them out one by one.

2070
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, all right, fair enough, Yeah, listen, I'm not

2071
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a puzzle guy or a this shit. That's

2072
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 1: not who I am. I just feel like I'm not

2073
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 1: gonna punt on a year of my life over a

2074
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 1: over a Rubik's Cube. I'm not gonna give that away. Jesus,

2075
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: all right, BC, it's time for your bs.

2076
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 2: Before we get into my v c's Luke, there were

2077
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 2: a couple extra things we wanted to touch real quickly.

2078
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 2: Did you see that report? A bloody elbow? Was where

2079
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 2: I read it? Actually speaking of shocker that the woman

2080
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 2: who accused Conor McGregor and Besa of assaulting her and

2081
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 2: she had to jump off the boat to escape her

2082
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 2: car exploded in the past few weeks? Was that? Is

2083
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:10,440
Speaker 2: this what happened.

2084
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 1: That story? I read? I think it got set on

2085
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: fire more than it just spontaneously combusted. I don't think

2086
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,560
Speaker 1: it combusted. What do you make of that?

2087
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: Because a lot of people are tweeting out us going,

2088
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 2: how have you guys not talked about this? I just

2089
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 2: found out about it this morning.

2090
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: I sent the link for folk who don't understand why

2091
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: we haven't, like, feel like, how do you not know

2092
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: more about what the Irish have published? Because a lot

2093
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 1: of these stories they're actually I'm not familiar with the

2094
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: terrain of like Irish media. I don't know how to

2095
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: navigate that in terms of like what's really good, what's

2096
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: really bad, who you can trust so you cannot. I

2097
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,560
Speaker 1: just don't understand that market very well. And also I

2098
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: don't exactly know who to get for reliable information. And

2099
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: also Ireland has really weird laws about what the media

2100
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: can or can't publish. So a lot of it seems

2101
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 1: from the American perspective, because you can't name certain names,

2102
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 1: it all seems very sketch. So that's the reason why

2103
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: we haven't got into it. Further, we're happy to report

2104
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: things that we feel like having a reasonable level of

2105
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: authenticity and truth value they being reported. But here's what

2106
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: it says. A forty ye old woman who made a

2107
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 1: formal complaint against McGregor using him of assault, had her

2108
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 1: car set ablaze earlier this month. Per The Mail Online,

2109
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 1: Irish police confirmed her had been suspected arson in the

2110
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm sure I'm gonna mispronounce it drim Nah

2111
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: neighborhood of Dublin. The guard I are investigating a suspected

2112
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: criminal damage from by fire incident that occurred at approximately

2113
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: ten pm on Thursday January nineteenth at a residential premises

2114
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: in this area. No injuries reported, so it sounds like

2115
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Arson BC.

2116
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 2: The other thing I wanted to mention was Arthur Betterbeef

2117
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 2: shouted out your boy, Oh Kadirov, Kadirov after in the

2118
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 2: post fight interview after winning and thanked him for all

2119
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 2: the support and stuff. And then I saw a news

2120
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 2: this morning that Hamzat Chimayev has taken Kadira's fifteen year

2121
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 2: old son Ali to train with him at Tiger Muytai

2122
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 2: in Thailand, and an entourage of Dear Off affiliated fighters

2123
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 2: as well. Luke, I bring this up because of the

2124
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: crossover and boxing where any connection to Daniel Kinahan. The

2125
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 2: Fury family still cannot fly to the States. That's why

2126
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury is not going to be, you know, fighting

2127
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 2: usick in Las Vegas, so to speak. Here is something

2128
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 2: in that regard coming because there are so many fighters

2129
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 2: connected with a guy who is caught up in so

2130
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 2: many human rights abuses in other very I've.

2131
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Tried to do a little bit digging on, like how

2132
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: is it possible that the Treasury can have these very

2133
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,679
Speaker 1: specific guidelines that doing business with Kadirov is strictly forbidden.

2134
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 1: And of course someone like Chremaiev is both Swedish and

2135
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: I think he probably still has chech in nationality, so

2136
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, this doesn't apply to him in all the

2137
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: direct cases, but just insofar as it involves anyone who

2138
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: is American, how is it possible that they can do

2139
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: business with him? And there's no issue here about what's

2140
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 1: going on? And the answer is, I don't know, But

2141
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 1: based on some folks I've been talking to, I wonder

2142
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 1: if there's an on I'd be very surprised if there

2143
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: was no ongoing criminal investigation into it and where it

2144
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:10,839
Speaker 1: leads and who it snatches up. I have no idea

2145
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: if it ever makes it to the light of day.

2146
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, but there's reason to believe that it's ongoing.

2147
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 1: And it feels like it's due for a reckoning, doesn't it.

2148
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: It feels like I'm kind of operating like it's a

2149
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 1: little big deal. It's a big fucking deal.

2150
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 2: When UFC fighter Munir lase Lazes, is that how you

2151
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 2: say it? When he was at the Apex that time,

2152
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 2: and he shouted out Daniel Kinahan like in the cage,

2153
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 2: you know, shout out to Alan Dawson of Insider, a

2154
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 2: friend of the show who you know, was Pepper and

2155
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:43,440
Speaker 2: him with questions, and Dawson's done an incredible job against resistance,

2156
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,799
Speaker 2: you know, doing a lot of public reporting against Kinahan.

2157
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 2: I just question why that's not the case with Kadirov,

2158
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Not not for Dawson, I

2159
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,679
Speaker 2: mean for all of us. Why we're just sort of like, yeah,

2160
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 2: we know those associations are there, but everybody's just cool

2161
01:37:58,520 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 2: with it.

2162
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a good answer for you,

2163
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: but I do feel like at some point it's due

2164
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 1: for a reckoning.

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01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, hey, check out M M A I

2166
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,680
Speaker 2: M Analytics new video out there on YouTube that that

2167
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 2: that that dips deep into that category. If you want

2168
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 2: to hear more on the putting the pieces together, very

2169
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 2: very eye opening. If all is true, luc it's time

2170
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 2: to put the serious stuff behind us, because you know,

2171
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 2: we can do both, Luke. We can dress down, I

2172
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 2: mean we live in a dressed down reality. We can

2173
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 2: also we can also put it back together when it matters.

2174
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 2: But you know, every Monday, we do a very dressed

2175
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 2: down segment where your boy BC scours the globe looking

2176
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 2: for the highs and lows. You know the good, the bad,

2177
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 2: the ugly, the in between in combat sports and really

2178
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 2: even beyond. If you're interested in you know, old white

2179
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 2: fails or elder abuse, this one's called Yeah have you

2180
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 2: seen the ship?

2181
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the elder abuse signed me up for that. That's

2182
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: really why I come.

2183
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 2: To life, all right, Luke, we already knew this fight

2184
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,879
Speaker 2: was happening. It had been reported, but it was officially announced.

2185
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 2: David Benavidez and Caleb Plant, two former super middleweight champions,

2186
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:04,759
Speaker 2: are gonna headline a showtime pay per view March twenty

2187
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 2: fifth in Las Vegas. Can't fricking wait, but I've referenced

2188
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 2: many times that there are multiple incidents at gym's where

2189
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 2: they where they basically nearly came to blows. Here's the

2190
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 2: the lead video on that for anyone looking to get

2191
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 2: fired up about this matchup. You're gonna see Caleb Plant

2192
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 2: in the white there at a gym. You're gonna see

2193
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 2: Jose Benavidez Junior, who's there with the black T shirt

2194
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: and black cap. You're also gonna see David benavide Is

2195
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 2: in a red shirt. This is the big one that

2196
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 2: everyone references when we say, oh, these two don't like

2197
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 2: each other, there's legit, beef. I just wanted to sort

2198
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 2: of set the stage properly for you.

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01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 4: Bro.

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01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 2: Noa that.

2201
01:39:54,760 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: You think I'm scared. I'll do whatever you want to do. No, bitch,

2202
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 1: you've been huck man. I'm not. I'm not right here.

2203
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 2: Don't you better? Yes, I'm what's up?

2204
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 4: What's up?

2205
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 2: Let's say you do it? Hey, hey man, hold up,

2206
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 2: we're coming over here. Hey, y'all coming over here.

2207
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 1: Hey y'all coming over here, because you're talking about what

2208
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I got it, I got hand it up.

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01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we're coming over here.

2210
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Over ship nor offend OUs you know, listen to me. No, fenmen,

2211
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 1: you come over here.

2212
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 4: My coach is don say you now right right for me?

2213
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 4: So he ain't get out of him saying that, don't

2214
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 4: get out of him, okay, n don't get back.

2215
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 1: Him.

2216
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 2: And he was coming long down.

2217
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: Down Brian, listen stupid, and oh.

2218
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's telling you cool down.

2219
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 4: Thanks said, oh shout buck out, take your ass back

2220
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 4: over there, and let's just go and get the brunck

2221
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 4: on his unshow workout. Well, what's finish your workout. Hey,

2222
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 4: take your ass back over there.

2223
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: Take your ass back over.

2224
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 2: There, Luke. A little lengthy there, but uh, neither sides

2225
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 2: back down. That was Caleb Plan who essentially kind of

2226
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 2: threw the first punch, a slapping left hand on Jose

2227
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 2: Benavidez Junior Senior. The father and trainer was there you

2228
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 2: saw in the red shirt. David jumped in and they've

2229
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 2: been at odds ever since. Does this like that juicy

2230
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 2: flame for you to to think of this as more

2231
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,640
Speaker 2: than just two former champions strategically facing each other on

2232
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 2: pay per view? There's beef hare, Luke, there's real beef.

2233
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: Brother. Yeah, I just know it doesn't do ship for me.

2234
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 1: I love the fight because these two guys. I do

2235
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: like the fact that they don't like each other. That

2236
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 1: to me adds to the fight. And I look in

2237
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 1: a legitimate way and I sort of get that. But

2238
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 1: like pouring over these gym disputes where young men are

2239
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 1: yelling at each other over the dumbest shit, No, it

2240
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 1: doesn't do much for me.

2241
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: All Right, I got fired up from it. Sorry, Luke,

2242
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 2: We'll continue going. Hey, we did have boxing from this

2243
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 2: past weekend. Let's go to the Golden Boy main event.

2244
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 2: Check out Alexis Roacha with a knock out of the

2245
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 2: contender against George Ashey. This was in the main event, Roacha,

2246
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 2: Roach's coming on a bit luke. But how about that finished?

2247
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 1: Damn good lord, what a right hook from this guy

2248
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 1: popped and knew exactly where he was gonna be. He did.

2249
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 1: He didn't really set up the uppercut right, He just

2250
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: kind of flashed the litterly. He maybe flashed the jab

2251
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 1: and then went to the uppercut and didn't No excuse me.

2252
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:43,679
Speaker 1: It looked to me like he led with the uppercut.

2253
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 1: Can we see it one more time? Yeah, So he

2254
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 1: leads with the uppercut. Never lead with the upper cut,

2255
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: especially the rearhand uppercut WITHOLDO set up first, because if

2256
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: you just lead with that uppercut, you're gonna be wide open,

2257
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: even if it was coming from the other side. He

2258
01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: doesn't put anything behind it and just gets absolute lutely crushed.

2259
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: Just throws the uppercut. Yeah, boom, boom yam.

2260
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 2: We mentioned the Better b fight, which took place in London.

2261
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 2: Here's a key sequence in round five when Yard was

2262
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 2: letting Better beave up, but he turned the tables fun

2263
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 2: to watch.

2264
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Dude, Anthony Yard is intimidating, man. Yeah, just look it

2265
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 1: just turns him and look at that same side, all right,

2266
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 1: hands amazing, amazing, turns him, moves him using the factory

2267
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 1: Yards holding on to reposition him. Dude, better bee was

2268
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 1: he would reverse him in these roles here, like just

2269
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 1: turn him. Yeah, so then he moves them just like that.

2270
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 1: Ah telling you man, it looks like it's obvious. That

2271
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 1: takes a skilled tactician. Man.

2272
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 2: And look when he corners you there, you can't get

2273
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 2: extension on your punches. It's really hard to fight off

2274
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 2: a guy like that. But Yard showed a tremendous chin.

2275
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 2: I got a lot of respect for him. Before the

2276
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 2: main event at Wembley or not Wembley had a different

2277
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: arena there in London. Luke Jake Paul Tommy Fury went

2278
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 2: face to face ahead of their February twenty fifth showdown.

2279
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 2: Did you like this pro wrestling Theatrix?

2280
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 4: No?

2281
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 1: Why is Tommy shirtless? Did he fight on this card?

2282
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:06,600
Speaker 4: No?

2283
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 2: He just had to show you what's under the hood.

2284
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, uh yeah, this is all you know. Like

2285
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 1: I said, man, I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna

2286
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take a dump on Logan Paul. I'm

2287
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 1: not gonna take a dump on Jake Paul. You know,

2288
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: I have been told You've been told me this. Other

2289
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: people have told me this that Logan is actually really

2290
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 1: good at pro wrestling and has actually really tried. So

2291
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect that he's putting something together.

2292
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 1: I respect what Jake has done in boxing for what

2293
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 1: it is. I take it for what it is. But

2294
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: like you know, am I going to take time out

2295
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: of my day? They're like, oh, I got to go

2296
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: see what these two guys do, though I'm not doing that.

2297
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 2: Well, you may not be willing to drop a deuce

2298
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 2: on Jake Paul, but Tommy Fury was when walking up

2299
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 2: to the poster. Check out the drawing he put on.

2300
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 1: Here you go, draw a big old dick. Yeah, they're

2301
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:49,640
Speaker 1: the balls. Look at that.

2302
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 2: Good old boxing. Luke. Always the lowest common denominator, right,

2303
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 2: you know, either I can kick your ass or you

2304
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 2: have a dog attached to your face. Those on the

2305
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 2: in your face, and yeah, well, hey, Luke, you mentioned

2306
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 2: that Logan Paul might be a pretty good wrestler. The

2307
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,560
Speaker 2: ww Royal Rumble was Saturday night in San Antonio, and

2308
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 2: check out this moment he and Ricochet combined for didn't.

2309
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 1: He tear up his knee?

2310
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Look at this.

2311
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 1: This was like over the weekend.

2312
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday. I thought he was going to be out

2313
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 2: for like a year with that torn up knee. Which

2314
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 2: was what I'm trying to think of what pay per

2315
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 2: view that would have been at? Maybe Survivor Series Luke,

2316
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 2: which was November. Right, Where was that Summer Slam? Maybe?

2317
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. Time moves so fast, but dude, just

2318
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 2: check out the athleticism here. It's insane.

2319
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's pretty I mean again, I don't know

2320
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 1: anything about pro wrestling, so you guys can correct me.

2321
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 1: It looks to me like the difference and skill level

2322
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 1: between him and the other ones is not that great.

2323
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's physically he's like, you know, he has nuances,

2324
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 2: he has to learn and all that, but he's like

2325
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 2: a day one I can do this thing type of

2326
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 2: celebrity crossover. It's been pretty remarkable to see this one.

2327
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 2: Not Rumble related, but Valerie Laredo made her televised WWE

2328
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 2: debut for NXT with the nickname It with her you

2329
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 2: know wrestling name of Lolo Vice. She did not get

2330
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 2: the wind, but there's a little bit of what she

2331
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 2: can do with the spinning kick. Luke, you impressed it

2332
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 2: all by this? No, all right, there it is there.

2333
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 2: You go, Hey, you want to see a Bill's mafia fatality?

2334
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 2: Here we go. We got those two.

2335
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 1: Look at this drunk fuck?

2336
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 2: Aah? Oh?

2337
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 1: How do you get hit by a car that's not moving? There?

2338
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 1: You go, right, it's like, dude, I got run over

2339
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:37,799
Speaker 1: by a car and it was parked.

2340
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you drink, you know, twenty five cans of

2341
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 2: Jenny Light, you know before eight am. That's usually how

2342
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 2: you do that.

2343
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: Look, what was hard? What was the BC like? Okay?

2344
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 1: So you know for okay in night? I went to

2345
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 1: college ninety eight to o two, all right, ninety eight

2346
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 1: to two. In that time, the cheap beer option was

2347
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 1: Natty Light or like Beast Light Old Milwaukee. Oh yeah,

2348
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: what was the light?

2349
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:01,560
Speaker 4: Like?

2350
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 1: Cheap ass beer? Go to for you?

2351
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 2: Okay? For in high school for a short season. Do

2352
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 2: you remember when Miller Red came out in nineteen ninety five,

2353
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 2: it was basically it was just called It wasn't Miller

2354
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 2: to Light, It wasn't Miller genuine draft. It was just

2355
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 2: called Miller beer and it had an amber red tint

2356
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 2: to it. Remember that shit, vaguely, dude, that was our

2357
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 2: jam in high school. And then you know, for a

2358
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 2: long time we were we were bush Can, bush Lighter

2359
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 2: bush Can for for for many many a time. Look,

2360
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 2: that was the official beer of low level living, you know,

2361
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 2: of underachieving, because look, you could grit, you know. And

2362
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 2: then you remember when Cores came out with Cores Original

2363
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 2: and the and the can had the mountains etched into

2364
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 2: it and you could grip them better when you were

2365
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 2: like all messed up, you know, those were Yeah. But no, dude,

2366
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 2: I came up on Natty Light in ninety four like

2367
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 2: everybody else.

2368
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that happened to my I just

2369
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 1: always hated the guy who was like, yo, Keystone was

2370
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 1: my favorite. Like, no one likes Keystone, You're a fucking liar.

2371
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 2: No one likes that rolling Remember we used to drink

2372
01:47:57,400 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 2: rolling rocks until we realized that it's just like piss

2373
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 2: and a bro.

2374
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 1: I had a fraternity brother whose house was so rancid

2375
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: and filthy. Not our house, but like he had a

2376
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 1: place off campus that he had an empty rolling rock

2377
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:10,759
Speaker 1: bottle in his sink. He would use that to swig

2378
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 1: his mouth after brushing his teeth at night. True story.

2379
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, you're fucking gross man.

2380
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 2: He was like, well, Luke Oscar t La Hoya. You

2381
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 2: know him as the Golden boy Ceo Luke, the Hall

2382
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 2: of Famer. He was giving away tickets to Saturday's card,

2383
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 2: but you needed you needed to pass a task first,

2384
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

2385
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got class out the ass, you know.

2386
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 2: So he tweeted his wife's name, Holly Saunders, guess her

2387
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 2: boob side in size and win two ringside seats to Saturday.

2388
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody guessed or won those seats,

2389
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 2: but you know if I did that, Luke, my wife

2390
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 2: would be very upset, as I'm sure yours. Here's Holly

2391
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 2: Saunders reaction. All right, there you go. That's congratulations to

2392
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 2: that lucky fan, Luke. Whoever got those tickets? Yeah, okay, hey,

2393
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 2: you ever you see Louis ck is back getting a

2394
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 2: lot of.

2395
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, cancel culture.

2396
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 2: Really really, maybe it's not Louis c k I get

2397
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 2: the wrong No, I got the right gut. Here check

2398
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 2: out this tweet, Luke, I don't have to say, I

2399
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 2: agree with that. I agree with that, right?

2400
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Hold on, is that actually Louisy K?

2401
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I think so. It's got six six

2402
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen thousand views doesn't mean anything.

2403
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: What I'm what I'm trying to ascertain is that did

2404
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 1: you include this because it actually is Louis c K?

2405
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 1: Or did you include this because someone is making fun

2406
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: of Joe Rogan's height and you like those jokes?

2407
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, it's not a verified account. It's got ninety

2408
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 2: five thousand followers. I can't confirm it. Okay, I just

2409
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 2: love comedy so much. I thought i'd share his sentiment.

2410
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 2: But we can keep rolling, Luke. Hey, we haven't had

2411
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 2: any good virtual reality fails in a while.

2412
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 1: And also hold on. Very quickly, the team wrote to us,

2413
01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 1: it's Louis c K or Louis k C. No, so

2414
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 1: you still haven't answered my question. Still haven't answered my question?

2415
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 1: What's your question? That's your question? Is it Louis c K?

2416
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:09,640
Speaker 1: They go, it's Louis Casey.

2417
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 2: No, No, the account is at not Louis c K.

2418
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 2: The Scott ninety five thousand followers. Gina Carron's a follower, Luke,

2419
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 2: and it says everything is amazing and nobody is happy.

2420
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 2: People ask if this is a parody. It is. I see,

2421
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 2: either that's a parody, Luke, or he's trying real hard

2422
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 2: to make it not a parody. But it was really

2423
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 2: about the content of the humor.

2424
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: You know, I don't judge you're doing. You were doing

2425
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 1: a Joe Rogan his short bit is really I.

2426
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 2: Don't judge the comedian. I just judge the material, okay.

2427
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough.

2428
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 2: Or the size of their fish tank, Jay Aaron, Yeah.

2429
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 1: Speaking dude, fish take obsessions, you know, I know Brendan

2430
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 1: Sholes got one due, Jay Aaron. What does it due

2431
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: to middle aged men where they like, all of a sudden, like, yo,

2432
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm just I love fish all of a sudden.

2433
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 2: I had a roommate when my twenties who randomly got

2434
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 2: this massive fish tank and was like, no, chicks love this,

2435
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 2: And you know his track record supports that. But I

2436
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:04,880
Speaker 2: just don't know if the fish had anything to do

2437
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 2: with it.

2438
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, I mean, if you're weird, you're weird. But

2439
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 1: I will say that like middle aged white dudes and fish,

2440
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 1: there's something about that. It could pulls a little bit

2441
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 1: of like you know, the band side of you that

2442
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 1: wants romance in your pornography. It's like that. It's like

2443
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: a weird, unexpected side, you know.

2444
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 2: All right, hey, let's listen to this VR. Moment, I

2445
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 2: push your right finger into it.

2446
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 4: There you go.

2447
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 2: Okay, when you hike the ball, you gotta you gotta

2448
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:30,719
Speaker 2: hold the right chigger?

2449
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 1: Do you gotta keep it?

2450
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:35,679
Speaker 4: Help down? And then.

2451
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 1: So do I did? Have you done VR yet? Uh? No, No,

2452
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't done like good VR. But I

2453
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,560
Speaker 1: took my daughter to one of these things called like

2454
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:53,839
Speaker 1: one of these Dyno exhibits.

2455
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I did. I did, like the arcade VR

2456
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 2: where you go pay like way too much money and

2457
01:51:57,960 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 2: you rent it for an hour and you can and

2458
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 2: it's like you can jump and dive on the floor

2459
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 2: and you're like attached to the ceiling. You know, Is

2460
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 2: that what you're talking about.

2461
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've seen that, so I don't know.

2462
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: But I took my dotter one of these dinosaur exhibits

2463
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: where they have all these like, you know, like to

2464
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 1: scale robotic dinosaurs, and she loved it. It was whatever.

2465
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 1: But at the end of it, they had a whole

2466
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 1: section where you could pay like a little bit extra

2467
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 1: and you could put on a VR headset and be

2468
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 1: like in the Cretaceous period or the Jurassic period, to

2469
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 1: go see what it was like. I will tell you,

2470
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: like it does. It messed with my balance when I

2471
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: would turn and see a cliff, my body would react

2472
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 1: to seeing it that way. It was kind of interesting.

2473
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is I like watching this white

2474
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 1: guy fail. But it is their deceptive those things.

2475
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I took my kids to the Ark Luke. Like

2476
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 2: I said, you'd pay like whatever, and you rent it

2477
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 2: for an hour and you're attached to a bungee cord

2478
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 2: that's attached to the ceiling. And yeah, there's times when

2479
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 2: you like dive on the floor just sort of like

2480
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 2: out of instinct because there's like zombies coming at you.

2481
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 2: It feels real, Luke, feels very real. Yeah, I got

2482
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 2: I got all sweaty doing the Rocky boxing game. That's

2483
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 2: probably not a surprise to you. Hey, let's rotate to

2484
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 2: MMA fighters in the wild. I love seeing how these

2485
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 2: people live their lives. Look at BKFC star Jimmy rivera.

2486
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 1: Le bantam weight well obviously, but.

2487
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 2: He passed the police exam Luke. He's now officially in

2488
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 2: arm of the law. Congratulations, told Jimmy.

2489
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, major, congratulations. That's incredible.

2490
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And the hammer of the month is Umar and

2491
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 2: AMaGA metof But this is what he eats Luke for

2492
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 2: his breakfast of champions. He beat flakes junicorn apparently.

2493
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 1: I think junicorn tastes.

2494
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 2: Very steel like and heavy.

2495
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. It's probably just like eating rocks.

2496
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 1: They just fucking got rocks and threw them in there.

2497
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, well there's all number made off Luke.

2498
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 2: Two titans, two heavyweights of their respective industries met when

2499
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 2: Reel recognized real how about Anghanu and Christiano Ronaldo?

2500
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Right? So do you know where this took place.

2501
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 2: Outside of the UFCPI Well, this.

2502
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 1: Is why it's interesting. B See. Uh, you got to

2503
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,640
Speaker 1: remember who did Rinaldo just sign with. He signed with

2504
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: the Saudi Arabian team Al Nasser, and he lives in

2505
01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 1: I think in Riot or wherever that team is based.

2506
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 1: Francis visited him as well as some other folks in

2507
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, which is how this all came together. Obviously

2508
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 1: Ronaldo is a fan. Whatever what I'm saying is big

2509
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 1: Francis went to Saudi Arabia. Looks to me like Big

2510
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 1: Francis was doing some business. What kind of business, I

2511
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 1: don't know, but looks to me like he was out

2512
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 1: there scoping out to see what's up, what he could

2513
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: sniff out, what might be some operation.

2514
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 2: Well, we know there's money there, Jake Paul versus Tommy

2515
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 2: Fury going down there and in the same area there.

2516
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 1: So we know the Ronaldo Rinaldo has if he if

2517
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: he meets all the things in his contract, like you know,

2518
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 1: he hits every goal that he's supposed to whatever, he

2519
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 1: can make three hundred million in a year.

2520
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 2: In a year, Damn Luke our final MMA fighter in

2521
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 2: the wild. Do you remember friend of the Extended Program,

2522
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 2: Brian boom Kellerher Did you know that he?

2523
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, He's I love bro Boom has bar.

2524
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 2: Let's hear it.

2525
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 1: Let's hear it.

2526
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 2: It's like a mirror where you fear it a get spirit.

2527
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 2: Need to cleanse your soul. The shit is toxic when

2528
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 2: you mix it up like Phantom. No, just start from scratch.

2529
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 1: You've got to patch it up to mend the hole.

2530
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 2: There was a fixture if you picture wrist so plentyful. Yeah,

2531
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 2: and now my heart is full of gold kars like

2532
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 2: twenty foot, the purest of them all. Look, he's got

2533
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 2: a little soul to him, right, pretty fly for a

2534
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 2: white guy.

2535
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, if the if the challenge was for me

2536
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 1: go to jail for a year or come out as

2537
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 1: soon as you've got you know, sixteen bars, I'm taking

2538
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 1: the year long jail term. In that case, I don't

2539
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: think I could do that. You know what I'm saying.

2540
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 2: You'll be interested in a two fight series him against

2541
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 2: Bryce Mitchell won an MMA match and won a rap battle.

2542
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 1: I'll be interested in one of those. You can guess

2543
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 1: which one.

2544
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 2: All right. Hey, look, you ever see a guy in

2545
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 2: public wearing a shirt saying the best at ever? And

2546
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 2: you wondered, like where he actually ranks?

2547
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably late on child support?

2548
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well what do you think about this?

2549
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 1: Dad? You gonna punch this kid?

2550
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:11,400
Speaker 4: Ah?

2551
01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean, first of all, let's just let's

2552
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 1: look at a couple of things here. Number one, you

2553
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: know they're not at the Smithsonian, right, they're I mean,

2554
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 1: like PC, My wife and I this weekend we were like,

2555
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 1: all right, what are we gonna do with our kid?

2556
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 1: You know, because we like, what do you want to

2557
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 1: do for the for the weekend, and we noticed we

2558
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 1: basically had we were down to two options. One was

2559
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: there was a Smithsonian exhibit for the Lunar New Year

2560
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 1: of the Chinese, the Chinese New Year, and it was

2561
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 1: always arts and crafts and you could see the Chinese dragons.

2562
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 1: And the other one was a monster truck show, and

2563
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 1: that would have been real fun, and there's a time

2564
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 1: and a place for either of them. But I just

2565
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 1: turned to my wife and I was like, Yo, if

2566
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 1: we take our kid to the monster truck show instead

2567
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 1: of the Chinese New Year exhibit at the Smithsonian, I

2568
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 1: think that says a lot about us as parents.

2569
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 2: I don't think you might as well just take her

2570
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 2: of the next power slap competition.

2571
01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So we didn't. We we didn't end up

2572
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 1: doing that. So first of all, you're there. Second that

2573
01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 1: they look at what this guy is a he's that's

2574
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 1: some fair which again, they have their time and place.

2575
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm just pointing out number one, but throw the thing

2576
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 1: back up here. Throw it back up here too. I

2577
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 1: want you to look at the men's adult shorts that

2578
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 1: this kid is wearing, like the kid is clearly wearing

2579
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 1: his dad's pants. Why are your shorts down to your

2580
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 1: your achilles?

2581
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 3: Uh?

2582
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,440
Speaker 2: Maybe that's like the new skater look, Luke. That was

2583
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 2: a thing back in the late eighties.

2584
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we were in nineteen ninety eight, I might

2585
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: agree with you. But it's twenty twenty three and that

2586
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: is no longer the case. It hasn't been for quite

2587
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 1: some time. So that's that. Now Dad whips around the

2588
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 1: right hook all the way to the child who now

2589
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 1: is traumatized by all of this because he didn't realize

2590
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 1: that there's a you know, a clear berth you're supposed

2591
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 1: to give.

2592
01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 2: And all we needed was an affliction T shirt and

2593
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:43,080
Speaker 2: this would have been the perfect clip, Luke, But let's

2594
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 2: keep it.

2595
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:45,040
Speaker 1: He needs a hat that says wine, I'm dying, I'm

2596
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 1: sixty nine, and.

2597
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 2: Is really do you ever hear the phrase shit happens? Luke?

2598
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 2: Check out this guy's dungarees. Yeah, he drew a crowd.

2599
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about this clip that Well, okay,

2600
01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 1: what are why are you digging the way you're digging?

2601
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:00,200
Speaker 4: Sir?

2602
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 2: Look he may have had an accident, but you know

2603
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 2: these guys the Paul patrol is not going to keep

2604
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 2: that accident quiet. I'll tell you that much.

2605
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta tell you the Paul. I mean,

2606
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 1: did this guy put you know, greenies up in his

2607
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 1: uh up in his you know what I'm saying, Like

2608
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 1: the back area in the back door. Yah.

2609
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 2: You know, my dog, Molly Luke, the most amazing animal

2610
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 2: of all time. When we get people that come over

2611
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 2: and maybe one day it could be LT and CT

2612
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 2: and you can come meet her, Dude, she'll go right

2613
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:29,880
Speaker 2: for your asshole or your ball bag.

2614
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean she just that means you're a bad owner.

2615
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: I just wants you to know that.

2616
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 2: You mean, I don't You're trying to say I don't

2617
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 2: discipline her enough to stay out of it.

2618
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: If your dog is if your dog first thing goes

2619
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 1: up to people who walk in and start sniffing their

2620
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 1: balls and ass, you have improperly trained that dog. Just

2621
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 1: being very clear.

2622
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 2: She sleeps in her own bed though, Luke.

2623
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not saying she's not a great dog, dude.

2624
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 1: The fact that she sniffs everyone's balls and ass is

2625
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: your fault, not hers. She's a dog, that's what they got.

2626
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 2: A specific Yeah, she she really focuses in on those parts.

2627
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 4: You know.

2628
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's get out of that.

2629
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 1: You also sniffed your guest ball ball it asks when

2630
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 1: they come through your front door.

2631
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 2: Hey, dude, I thought this was like an enhanced video

2632
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 2: from UFC two eighty three. People are telling me this

2633
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 2: is real.

2634
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 1: It's real.

2635
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 2: Good lord.

2636
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:18,480
Speaker 1: They got trapped in his hair, which I guess was

2637
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 1: hard to see without the water, but once they pour

2638
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 1: it in there, it comes right out.

2639
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 2: Shout out to Jamal Hill, your new light heavyweight champion

2640
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:28,640
Speaker 2: of the world. Hey, look, if jan six was a person,

2641
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 2: I think I found him.

2642
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 1: If it has tits or tires, I can make it squeal.

2643
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 2: Wow, dude, look at the first of all, look at

2644
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 2: the peace on him, then the Harley Davidson belt, and

2645
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:43,600
Speaker 2: then the haircut that makes him look like the guy

2646
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 2: from Goonies Sloth.

2647
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know this guy just screams

2648
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 1: book reader.

2649
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that. All right, enough of these clowns.

2650
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 2: Look it's time to rate that tat. You know you

2651
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,880
Speaker 2: get fired up for this, dude. How about Charles OLIVERA

2652
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:03,240
Speaker 2: Him and his resilient artist William Esposito have continued the

2653
02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:04,200
Speaker 2: back in arms.

2654
02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 1: What do you think about this, as you know. So

2655
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 1: this is a tattoo. By the way, you look at

2656
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 1: the belt line, you think it looks cool. I think

2657
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 1: it looks weird on the body if it stops at

2658
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:14,880
Speaker 1: the belt line. It looks good when you have pants

2659
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:15,360
Speaker 1: on or whatever.

2660
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:17,560
Speaker 2: Okay, but how many people are going to be that

2661
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:20,240
Speaker 2: intimate with Charles olivera that they're going to see the

2662
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:21,520
Speaker 2: full on ass It's.

2663
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 1: Just weird when you see it again. I'm never gonna hopefully,

2664
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm never going to see here, right because.

2665
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 2: The oppice is not weird at all, dude, not weird

2666
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:28,960
Speaker 2: at all to see.

2667
02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:31,840
Speaker 1: No, No, it's weird either way, but it's at least

2668
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 1: more artistically consistent anyway, neither here nor they are. It's

2669
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 1: hard to tell because it's fresh and it will lighten

2670
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 1: up a little bit, because I would say it looks

2671
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:41,960
Speaker 1: a little dark. But in general it appears to be

2672
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's hard to tell from the photo that

2673
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking at here, and I have to go look

2674
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 1: at it in close to the tail, but it looks

2675
02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:50,120
Speaker 1: to be decent. It looks to be decent, all right.

2676
02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:52,440
Speaker 2: Hey, check out this UFC fan rate this tat a

2677
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:54,840
Speaker 2: mid drift tat of Tye to Ivasa.

2678
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:02,560
Speaker 1: Um not bad, right, not bad, Not a bad tattoo

2679
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 1: at all in terms of like tattoo application. The hair

2680
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 1: makes them look a little big footish, right.

2681
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:09,360
Speaker 2: You're talking about Bigfoot Silva.

2682
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:11,080
Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking Yeah, Bigfoot Silva. Uh huh.

2683
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: But in general it's it's good, not great, but good, well.

2684
02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 2: Good connective tissue there. Because here's Bigfoot Silva's new tattoo

2685
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 2: celebrating his marriage.

2686
02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm not really a fan

2687
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:29,920
Speaker 1: of this. I don't think they come out very good,

2688
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 1: so they're really hard to do. Well.

2689
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:34,480
Speaker 2: He looks handsome in that photo he does.

2690
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 1: Which is part of the idea. And again you see

2691
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 1: how it's got that purple ish almost brownish hue that

2692
02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:44,080
Speaker 1: tells you it's brand new obviously. But yeah, I just

2693
02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:49,080
Speaker 1: dude to do portrait realism correctly. There's like ten people

2694
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:51,240
Speaker 1: who can do that very well. If you don't pick

2695
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 1: one of them, it's gonna come out fine, but just

2696
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 1: not great.

2697
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:58,440
Speaker 2: Well one of those ten, Luke has blessed a lucky

2698
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 2: UFC fan with a tattoo of Alexander the Great Volkanovsky.

2699
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 2: You talk about great portraits, Luke check this out.

2700
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he looks like Mike from Breaking Bad. Dude.

2701
02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 2: He looks like Volkanovsky at age seventy.

2702
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, my man's got some Today's Yeah. No, not a

2703
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 1: great tattoo.

2704
02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:27,040
Speaker 2: All right, all right, hey, let's do a throwback local news.

2705
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:28,840
Speaker 1: Don't stop, stop stop. You know who he looks like.

2706
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:32,840
Speaker 1: Have you seen Sin City with Bruce Willis and all that?

2707
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:36,120
Speaker 2: No, I'm a big Color of Night fan with Bruce Willis.

2708
02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 1: You've never seen Sin City. It's a it's an initially

2709
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:41,800
Speaker 1: it was a it was a dark novel or what

2710
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 1: do you want to call it. Frank Miller I think

2711
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:47,680
Speaker 1: wrote him, if I'm not mistaken. It's adapted from like

2712
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 1: a comic book that's essentially a novel, and they made

2713
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:52,200
Speaker 1: a movie out of it. There's a character who's yellow,

2714
02:02:52,280 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 1: who was like the son of one of the rich,

2715
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 1: corrupt people in the city. He looks like him in

2716
02:02:57,440 --> 02:02:58,960
Speaker 1: this tattoo. Yeah, it's a terrible tattoo.

2717
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:00,920
Speaker 2: It looks like an old box and cup man or

2718
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:03,200
Speaker 2: something that's just not good. Hey, remember that time the

2719
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 2: Astros won it all. Here's a throwback local news segment

2720
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 2: that I can't stop lovingly.

2721
02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:13,320
Speaker 1: What do you have to say to everyone who still

2722
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:15,200
Speaker 1: considers the Astros cheaters?

2723
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 2: All right, no, no, sorry, guys, did not mean to

2724
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 2: do that in his law television anything you can have, Luke,

2725
02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 2: what would you have to say to all those who

2726
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:28,800
Speaker 2: called the Astros cheaters?

2727
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are cheaters. That's that was the year the

2728
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 1: Nats beat them too, by the way, when they were

2729
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 1: begging on the trash cans and everything. Yeah. Yeah, the

2730
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:38,360
Speaker 1: Astros can get bent and all their fans can get

2731
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 1: bent too. They're a good team, but they're definitely cheaters,

2732
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 1: like no doubt.

2733
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,000
Speaker 2: Shout out to that guy for a great moment on

2734
02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 2: local live TV. Hey you know that state that that's

2735
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:50,080
Speaker 2: saying that the University of Kansas has rock hard Jayhawk

2736
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:52,560
Speaker 2: Luke or whatever. Yeah, watch this.

2737
02:03:56,520 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 1: Watch Well, that young lady in the back is really

2738
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:07,040
Speaker 1: making a dad proud. It's like, dad, did you did

2739
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:09,040
Speaker 1: you give her enough hugs? I'm not sure that maybe

2740
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 1: she's just.

2741
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 2: A big fan of like Dick Van Dyke, Luke. You know,

2742
02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:14,800
Speaker 2: I mean he had some some hits, right, you know

2743
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 2: you're talking about Mary Poppins.

2744
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:20,920
Speaker 1: Can you imagine like just watching TV, It's like, yeah,

2745
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 1: let's turn on the Jayhawks game, and then you see

2746
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:25,280
Speaker 1: your loved one on there with a shirt that says

2747
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:25,880
Speaker 1: I love Dick.

2748
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:29,240
Speaker 2: All right, hey, soccer fan of the week. This is

2749
02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:31,200
Speaker 2: this is what you call keeping your eye on the.

2750
02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:44,960
Speaker 1: Ball, about to get murdered. Wake up is the first

2751
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 1: of them.

2752
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:45,600
Speaker 2: Up?

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Speaker 1: Get up, Get up, Get up, Wake up.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you put on a little makeup? That was

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Speaker 2: in a shout out to Armenians looks the system of

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Speaker 2: a down Yeah yeah, produced by Rick Rubin. Shout out

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Speaker 2: to that. Finally, Luke, we got people in public that

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Speaker 2: you probably won't but this is what happens in life.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right?

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Speaker 2: I mean do you do you give him any respect

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Speaker 2: for the hygiene?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand which farmer put dungarees on a barn animal, right,

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Speaker 1: they did, but they did this. This gentleman should be

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Speaker 1: at a bare minimum castrated. Right.

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Speaker 2: He will fit in well on the New York City

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Speaker 2: subway system.

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Speaker 1: Look, he would fit he is the New York City subway.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I don't wish death on a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna wish death on him, But I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, if something bad happened to him, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily feel all that bad about it.

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Speaker 2: You know, well that's the ship of the week. Shout

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Speaker 2: out to the Great Jeffity Pierre for sorting all that

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Speaker 2: ship out. Hope you enjoyed it. Wow to two hours

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Speaker 2: look on it. You know on a Monday, we really drive.

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Speaker 1: It home, you know what we really, we really do.

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Speaker 1: Let's remind folks we're trying to pack the house with

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Speaker 1: all the seats that we can. It's not this Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: but it's the following February eighth, King's Place. Come check

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Speaker 1: us out poddash Live dot com in London, England. It's

2781
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Speaker 1: gonna be a ton of fun. Come check us out there.

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Speaker 1: Please be so kind as to do that. Tell your friends.

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Speaker 1: Dan Hardy is going to be with us as well.

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Speaker 1: Showtime dot com is the label that pays thirty day

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Speaker 1: free Trify like you can keep it if night you

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02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:26,440
Speaker 1: can bounce. You can see the merch there as well.

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Speaker 1: They kind of got all over the place merch Morningcombat

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Speaker 1: dot store. We've got some teas for the London show

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Speaker 1: and the London Well BC is more than really a

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Speaker 1: London show, it's a London trip and we've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff we're doing while we're there.

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Speaker 2: The trip of a lifetime will be. We got a

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Speaker 2: couple of media stops planned. We're gonna be doing some

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Speaker 2: room service diaries, interview filling, filming a doncumentary. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is this is peak, you know, hanging out with

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Speaker 2: our fans, Luke during the live show and afterwards maybe.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we'll see, we shall see if we.

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Speaker 2: Have enough security, if Tristan can throw some bodies around.

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Speaker 2: But Luke I told here on Twitter by Admiral Anthony

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Speaker 2: that there was a London edition of Grand Theft Auto

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Speaker 2: on PlayStation one, and he shared a picture of his

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Speaker 2: of his case to show me so right now, Morningcombat

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Speaker 2: Dot Store. Of course you can get your MK in

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Speaker 2: the UK T shirts. Also our Grand Theft Auto version

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Speaker 2: of the Greatest Moments in MK history on there, so

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Speaker 2: check that out Morningcombat Dot Store. Our new merch is

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Speaker 2: just hogwhild That's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I can't it certainly is it? Certainly is all right,

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Speaker 1: So thank you to everyone who watched. We're back on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and uh that's it for us.

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Speaker 2: So for Brian Hill, one more thing, Luke, you blew

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Speaker 2: me off earlier for breaking news. But dude, I chatted

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Speaker 2: up mak mudabd roof you know what I mean, my

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Speaker 2: man from the uh yeah, you know, social activist, great

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Speaker 2: NBA player and of course the subject of this. Friday,

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Speaker 2: February third, on Showtime, the premiere of the documentary Stand

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Speaker 2: I got a chance to screen at Luke. It is

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Speaker 2: fantastic in all the categories you would hope it would be.

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Speaker 2: We talk nineties MBA. We talked about all the incredible

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Speaker 2: things he stood for and the and the you know,

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Speaker 2: and everything being black balled out of the NBA, all

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Speaker 2: that good stuff. So check it out this week, folks.

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Speaker 1: Very good. There you have it all right. So for

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, for me, for Malca, CBS Sports at Showtime,

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Speaker 1: this has been morning Combat. Back at you again on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and until then, may all of your gains be loyal