1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Cadine only does listen to letters because she wild nosy. Duh, 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: you've been saying that for what nine seasons? You're not 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: even gonna argue. I'm not gonna argue that one is 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: the truth. Dead ass. Hey, I'm Cadine and we're the Ellises. 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: You may know us from posting funny videos without boys 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: and reading each other publicly as a form of therapy. Wait, 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: I'll make you need therapy most days. Wow. And one 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: more important thing to mention, we're married. We are. We 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: created this podcast to open dialogue about some of life's 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: most taboo topics, things most folks don't want to talk 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: about through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: adds is the term that we say every day. So 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: when we say dead ass, we're actually saying facts, the truth, 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. We're about 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: to take phillow Talk to a whole new level. Dead 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Ass starts right now. Typically we don't really do a 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: story time for listen to letters, but I feel like 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: this story is extremely valuable before we listen to people's stories. Okay, 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: it's about our sons. We have four, you know, Jackson 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Kira cast Kota right, And I've learned a lot about 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: human behavior and people over the last eleven years. As 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: we've had more children, you start to realize that no 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: matter how you raise all of your kids, certain children 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: will respond to certain things differently. And what is teaching 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: me is to have empathy for everyone else in the world, 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: because it don't matter how someone grew up. They may 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: respond to something a certain way, and you don't have 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: the right to tell them how to respond. For example, 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: you follow us on social media, you know that recently 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: our dog died, right, Kingston Kingston was fifteen years old. 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: Kingston was officially the first son that we had. I 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: bought Kingston four k in two thousand and seven when 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: we were living in Michigan by ourselves. Long story short 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: with um. That was the same year that Sean Taylor 35 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: was murdered at a breaking at a home invasion, and 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: he was playing in the NFL at the time. People 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: from his you know, inside of his people thought that 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: he was well and away game broke into the house. 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: He happened to be there because he was on injured 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: reserve for the rest of the year. Someone fired a 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: gun and he was shot in the artery. I believe 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: or he was stabbed in the artery in his leg 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: and he ended up dying arrest in p Shawan, Taylor. 44 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: But at that time I was living at in Michigan 45 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: with Kadeem and we were living in fair Land across 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: from the mall, and people knew that we lived there, 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: and it made me kind of wonder, like, how, you know, 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: how would I defend myself if someone thought I wasn't 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: home and came and did it a home invasion? So 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I ended up buying a gun. Kadin wasn't big on guns, 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: and she was just like, I don't want to live 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: in a house with a gun. So I bought Kingston 53 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: at the time at the time, now things have changed, 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: not not if she has kids, she's a completely different person. 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: When I bought Kingston, at first he was a ten 56 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: pound ship too. Then I bought Achilles. Achilles a hundred 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: forty pound mastiffs, so if anybody broke into the house, 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: they were the odd couple. So if anybody broke into 59 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: the house, they would have to deal with Achilles. Of 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: course he's a huge mastiff. But that's just the b story. 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: The A story is Kingston passed away, so all of 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: our children, no Kingston, but they all grew up loving 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: King's birthday. October one, UM, and he just turned fifteen, UM. 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: And he died a couple of days after he turned fifteen. 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: So he died in New York. We lived in Atlanta. 66 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: He was staying with Candee's brother, Tristan. Shout out to Tristan, 67 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: and he took care of great care of Kingston. And 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: I was like, think, I gotta tell the boys. So 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: now we go to tell the boys, and I do that, right. 70 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: We had to keep my dad from telling the boys 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: because my dad is like the Green Reaper. He likes 72 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: to just tell bad news. He just doesn't with the 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: most like straightforward way, like he doesn't cushion it. He's 74 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: just like, oh yet the dog died. That's actually a 75 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: good little in thing to put there for what happens 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: after this, right, because your father's thing is with not 77 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: even with just dogs, when people die. Right when his 78 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: mom passed, he said, you know people day, you know 79 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: they live, they have a day. These things happening happen. 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: You want to have a drink. He invite his friends 81 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: over their line. You go to work the next day, 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: Like that's just how father is very practical, and we 83 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: say I used to say all the time, like you 84 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: don't have a heart. How can you just you just 85 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: don't have a heart? How were you raised? Right? Cut too. 86 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: We gotta tell the boys, and what I'm gonna say 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: right now happened verbatim, no exaggeration. You know, I'll be 88 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: putting a hunt it on ten, but this is no exaggeration. 89 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: And everything that happened I predicted to Codeine that it 90 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: was going to happen this way. Cayro and Jackson came 91 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: downstairs first, and I said, let me tell these two 92 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: because these two are the most emotional, right, So I said, 93 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Jackson is gonna ugly crying because Jackson is a very 94 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: empathetic person. And then Cairo was going to see Jackson 95 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: ugly cry and start crying because he's like, oh, if 96 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: Jackson's crying, it must be important. And then cast is 97 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: just gonna ask me if he can watch the thundaments 98 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: like Cash is just not gonna care. Right, So they 99 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: come downstairs, Jackson and Cairo, and I say, guys, I 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: have something to tell you, and they're like, what happened? 101 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: I said, Kingston passed away right, Cairo breaks out Jackson 102 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: tried to be tough, right, he's looking at me shaking 103 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: his head. I said, bro, your dog died. If there's 104 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: any reason in the world to cry as a man 105 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: as if your dog die, all right, so go ahead 106 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: and cried. So he so the two of them crying. 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: Right here comes cast drove it downstairs, comes downstairs, stands up. 108 00:05:53,240 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: What happened? Cairo goes, Kingston passed away? Cat goes, No, 109 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: he didn't. Kingston died because Kingston is old. And when 110 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: you owe, you did dead. So Kingston died. Daddy, can 111 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: we watch the thundaments? Just like that? He literally did 112 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: it just like that, And the parents and me first 113 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: looking at him like your little sociopath, like you have 114 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: no feelings. You don't see that your brothers are going 115 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: through something right now. But then I had to check 116 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: myself and I had to realize, like I need to 117 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: understand that everything doesn't affect everybody the same way. So 118 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: let me not judge him and make him feel guilty 119 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: for not feeling the same way, and just accept the 120 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: fact that he is more practical when it comes to death, 121 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: all right. And also and also made me realize that 122 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: I need to hide all the sharp objects around cash 123 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: because he has no feelings. Right, We have feelings, y'all, Okay, 124 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: don't have a little easier than others. I have no 125 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: feelings alone. And I say all that to say this. 126 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: We're about to read these listener letters, right, So when 127 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: y'all listen to these listener letters, have empathy for these people, 128 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: all right, don't judge them because everybody goes through things 129 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: and handle things differently. Just because someone's gonna stay in 130 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: a relationship with somebody for five thousand years that they 131 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: know they shouldn't be in, and right in and ask 132 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: us if we think they should stay in that relationship, 133 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: don't judge them. Okay, have empathy. Right. We're gonna make 134 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: a joke or two, but it's coming from a very 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: very good place. Absolutely, absolutely, So we're gonna take a 136 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: quick break, absolutely, and then we have some special guests 137 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: when we come and dive into these listen letters. All right, y'all. 138 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: So we're gonna dive right in to my favorite portion 139 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: of the show because I'm nosey as hell and i'd 140 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: be wanting to know your business and you'll be writing 141 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: in so I'm well within my right to read out 142 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: these listener letters that we have today. Um, we dedicate 143 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: usually one episode per season to just really diving into 144 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: you guys, writing in and seeing what you need help with. 145 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: You know what you need our two cents on and 146 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: we thought it would actually be fun to bring in 147 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: two special guests on the show for us today to 148 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: just get their two cents. So we got two cents, 149 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: We got two cents, and we got how what's the 150 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: math on net six cents? How come we only got 151 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: two cents where they get two cents each? Two cents? 152 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: That's you gotta split our two cents because we're married, 153 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: no money because we're the guests. Extra sense. Yeah, there 154 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: we go. All right, So that's about six cents we 155 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: have today, y'all. Okay, not like the movie though. UM. 156 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Here to help us get Reasonably shady with these inness 157 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: the letters are two of the stars of the Real 158 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Housewives of Potomac and hosts of the podcast Reasonably Shady, 159 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: Giselle Bryant and Robin Dixon. Welcome, ladies, Thank you. It's 160 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: such a pleasure to be here with you all. You 161 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: all are beautiful and amazing, So thank brav It's beautiful 162 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: and just so beautiful that we're sharing. I hear a 163 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: makeup artist Robin and Giselle Nellie. Yes, I know. Once 164 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: I saw she started working with you ladies, I was like, 165 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, the canvas though, these canvases are beautiful. 166 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: It can buy. I wouldn't know, head right, canvases sounds awesome. 167 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: So we're so sweet and had a good time for 168 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: this weekend. I love that. I know you guys have 169 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: been super busy. Bravocn is out the way. Um, you're 170 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: just making a bunch of appearances. How did that go? Insane? 171 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: I have never been as I feel like my voice 172 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: is hoarse, like I've never been so tired in my life. 173 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: But it was. But but it was like so exhilarating. 174 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: I told like I told my husband. I was like, 175 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I felt like Michael Jackson, like walking 176 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: through the mention because the fans would just like they 177 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: would see you and they start running after you and 178 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: screaming and you know, trying to get a selfie. And 179 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is insane. You know, 180 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: we're used to people wanting to take a picture of us, 181 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: but when you put thirty of them in one building, 182 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: it's off the hook. But it was. It was awesome. 183 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: And then to see all the other Bravo talent and 184 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, you don't know them, but you know them 185 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: because because you're all are on the same network. It 186 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: was really cool. It's always it's always nice to know 187 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: that people are watching, you know, because we do the 188 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: show and we just carry on, but people are watching, 189 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: they're invested, they love it, they love all of our craziness. 190 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: So it was just nice to be up close and 191 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: personal with people that know every scene from season one, 192 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: they can recide it back to us. That's a great 193 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: it's a great feeling. So that's a question. What made 194 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: you guys decide to get into the podcast? Lane, Oh 195 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: my gosh, that was all Robin. So we were in 196 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: the COVID in the pandemic or the ers, and we 197 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: really didn't have anything to do, and Robin was like, 198 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: let's get on Instagram live and just so we did 199 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: that a couple of times and people would comment and say, 200 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, you guys should have a podcast. And Robin 201 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: called me and was like, girl, we need to have 202 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: a podcast. And I was like, okay, Now, Robin and 203 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: I have never listened to our podcast, and so we 204 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: didn't even Yeah, we didn't even know what we're getting 205 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: ourselves into, but we were like, let's do it, and um, 206 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: it's been great. Yeah, and it's it's been really cool 207 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: because on our podcast, like we don't talk about the show. 208 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: We would love to talk about the show, especially while 209 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: it's airing, but we really don't talk about the show. 210 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: So the listeners are really able to get to learn 211 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: us even better. Um because on the show, you you know, 212 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: you only see but so much of our lives and 213 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: our personalities and all that. So um on the podcast, 214 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they they you know, right in and they're 215 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: just like, oh my gosh, y'all are so funny. I 216 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: feel like, y'all are my girlfriends. You know, people look 217 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: at me crazy because I'm walking down the street cracking up. 218 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: And so it's been you know, rewarding for us to 219 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: hear from people because they love you know, it's like 220 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: they're connecting with us on a on a deeper level 221 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: and not a show level. Absolutely. Who came up with 222 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: the name reasonably shady? Who came up with that name? 223 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: Because Robin? That was because I didn't know how got shady. 224 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know that I'm lying. I'm within reason, Okay, 225 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: within reason, Yeah, And I'm so I'm technically I'm generally 226 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: the reasonable one. Like I'm always trying to find the 227 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: good in something, or I don't jump to conclusion. I'm 228 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: trying to wait till I see all sides of a 229 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: story to really, you know, give my give my opinion. 230 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: So I'm the reasonable one. That is the shady one. 231 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: She is instantly, doesn't matter what it is. She's junk shady. 232 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: I love that. It's a perfect age. Yeah, but but 233 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: I still have shady in me. But I'm I have 234 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: reasonable shade. She's just shady. Love that I love. That 235 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: sounds like the perfect marriage because over here we have 236 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: our fair share shade shade. Earlier, talking about my air 237 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: pods was dusty because I don't want to to use 238 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: my interpods. They were dusty. They had a bunch of air. 239 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes your wife just be your biggest d You know 240 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying as I closed my air podcast, like, 241 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: don't look at mine either. Alright, y'all, let's jump into 242 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: these listeners. Letters. So I always tell people when y'all 243 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: write in, first of all, don't send me two sentences 244 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: and expect me to make up the rest of the story. 245 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: So then now they took that ship to heart and 246 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: they'd be writing these long dissertations, so be prepared. At 247 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: least we'll hopefully have enough context to be able to 248 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: give them what they need. Okay, you want to read 249 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: the first one. I read the first one. Alright, go 250 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: for it. Here we go. Good evening. I'm in the Navy. 251 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: This year. I've decided that I'm done. I will not 252 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: re enlist and keep doing something I don't love. I've 253 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: been in it for ten years and my current contract 254 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: ends in two I have things I don't I have 255 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: things I want, I want done before the day comes, 256 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: and I have plans for whatever gets done after. I've 257 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: had a few girlfriends during my time in the Navy, 258 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: but no relationship over a couple of months, and all 259 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: of them approached me first. I'm excited to start the 260 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: rest of my life, and I would like to have 261 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: a good woman to do it with. But I am 262 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: hilariously inexperience and approaching women. My question is where do 263 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: I begin to start when it comes to building that 264 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: confidence to break the ice and asking her out on 265 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: a date when I see a woman worth it? Uh 266 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: So this is a good question because he's able. He 267 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: was able to get a woman's experience, three women's experience, 268 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: and then a man's experience. So I'll let you ladies 269 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: go first. How could he work on building his confidence? 270 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: I love to see a picture due because you know 271 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: it starts right. You know, we could say it, bro, 272 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: you need to like hair, you need to wear better clothes. Um. 273 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: But if it's just like, you know, a conversation. I 274 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: always find that a joke always wins. So if he 275 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: could come to her with like something that's funny and 276 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: she laughs, Yeah, I was. That was my first thought 277 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: as well. But I mean it has to be a 278 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: good joke, right, But I mean I'm wondering. So he's 279 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: us he's saying the women come to him all the time. 280 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: It's like he's saying the women women come to him him. Okay, 281 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: let me let me just tell the dudes out here 282 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: you know that that are scared or shot to approach women. Listen, 283 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: you just gotta understand you're going to get shot down. 284 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: You might get shot down ten times and then that 285 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: twelfth time. You know, the eleventh time, you're you're going 286 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: to win. Because I've shot down a many of guys 287 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: and they just take the punches and they keep on 288 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: moving and they go on to the next and you 289 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: see him, you know, he might be in a party. 290 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: You see them work in a party. They get shot 291 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: down again, you can see them. And then finally somebody 292 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: I hate. Yeah, I hate to break it to them, 293 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: You're you gotta just go for it because you will 294 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: get rejected. You're gonna get shut down. People are not 295 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: gonna have time, they don't want to talk whatever. But 296 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: you're going to find that person that will connect with you. 297 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: So you just gotta try. Yeah, I would have to 298 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: say the biggest thing is understanding that people's quote unquote 299 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: rejection doesn't have anything to do with you. You know, 300 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: most of the time, people have their own things they're 301 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: going on, and they project whatever they're going on in 302 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: that day on people. So if someone says, no, I'm 303 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: not interested, that doesn't mean that you're not a good person. 304 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: You may one not be that person's preference or to 305 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: that person could be having a bad day or three. 306 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Like you said, that person could not be having time 307 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: for me. What I tell my young men that I 308 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: mentor what I'm telling my sons is you gotta just 309 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: focus on being the best version of you and be 310 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: confident when you woke up to a woman. It don't 311 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: matter if you got on suspenders, if you got on 312 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: the tuch seed though, if you got on a naval outfit. 313 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: If you woke up confident with your shoulders back and 314 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: your head high and you got a nice joke, you 315 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, She's gonna violitely be laughing, Kiki. 316 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: But if you walk in all like small, like you're 317 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: you're not sure, that's the quickest way to turn the 318 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: woman off if you don't seem sure. Yeah, usually insecurity 319 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: insecurities can speak really loudly when you're just approach to someone. 320 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: So a lot of times, like when you said, I 321 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: want to see what he looks like, I'm like, yeah, 322 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: of course, because it's like the approach, the energy that 323 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: he brings before he even opens his mouth. A lot 324 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: of times that has something to say about it, right, Yeah. 325 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: You know what I think would be helpful is if 326 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: guys just get straight to the point. I hate that 327 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: little stupid small talk when they're trying to like pretend 328 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: like they're not trying to talk to you, but trying 329 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: to see if you're going to like give him an opportunity. 330 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: Just get straight to the point and be like, you 331 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: know what, I spotted you. I think you're beautiful. Um, 332 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: is there an opportunity for us to get to know 333 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: one another, Like, just get straight to the point before 334 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: I like stupid. Uh I want to say, I like 335 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: stupid small talk, because yeah, I'm telling you, one thing 336 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: you should do is go get stuff as a man 337 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: and start approaching women and just being like, hey, I 338 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: think you're attractive. Can we go on a date? They're 339 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna be like, uh, that was that I would get 340 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: all their numbers. Listen, my brother, My brother and I 341 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: look exactly the same, and women think he is so handsome, 342 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: so I would get all their numbers. I bet you. 343 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: I bet you. You You don't approach him, like that's the 344 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: really I don't, And you know, and maybe it's because, 345 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: like I've always been in a relationship and I'm like, dude, 346 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: you're really wasting your time talking to me, like get 347 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: to the point. So maybe it's because like I'm not 348 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: even like I'm really not trying to talk to you. 349 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: And if you're sitting here doing all this little stupid 350 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: small talk when you're just trying to get my number, 351 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: like just beat it, you know what I mean. That's 352 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: my perspective. And I haven't been in a relationship for 353 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: a hundred years, like robbing, And so when I approached, 354 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: I like all into the small talk because I got 355 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: I like small talk because I feel like small talk 356 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: and tell you a lot about a person. Absolutely can 357 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: tell you whether they're they're witty, whether they're smart, whether 358 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: you know you can have a long term conversation with them. Um, 359 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: so I'm here for the small talk game. So that's 360 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: gonna be my tip for guys. Get your small talk 361 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: on a point, get that thing on point. Listen. I 362 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: ain't even gonna lie. Small talk does for us. It's 363 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: the same thing when we're evaluating a woman, right, It 364 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: starts with looks. Of course you attracted you you approach 365 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: someone you're attracted to. But when you start the small talk, 366 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: if she can't hold the conversation either, A lot of 367 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: men are kind of like she's pretty, but and'll let 368 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: you know which category she falls in, right, because if 369 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: she's the pretty girl who can't have small talk, who 370 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: doesn't seem intelligent, then you might get a date and 371 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: whatever after the date. But then if you find, yeah, 372 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: you get smash and that's it. But if you wom 373 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: it's like, wow, she really intrigued me mentally. It's like, 374 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: you know what, let me go on another date. Let 375 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: me see if this is the type of woman that 376 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: I could spend the rest of my life with. So 377 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: small talk is important, but they in no small talks 378 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: dating smash that one. Well, good luck to this young man. 379 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: I love when guys right into because I feel like, listen, 380 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: letters are always usually like heavily women writing in. But 381 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: when the guy's writing and I'm like, okay, they're they're 382 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: they're taking a stab at trying to be a better, 383 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: better gentleman. Right, So let's dive into the second one. 384 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: Oh lord, child, this one long, this sense just like 385 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: a story. All right, Hey, getting into vow. My husband 386 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: and I have been together since two thousand thirteen, so 387 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: that's nine years married in two thousand, eighteen four years. 388 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: My husband is currently a stay at home dad, and 389 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: I provide financially. I grew up in a household environment 390 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: where the women did a lot of the work and 391 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: always put everyone first and didn't ask much for themselves. 392 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: As long as their husband and children were happy, They 393 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: were happy. I've been accustomed to this, and I feel 394 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: like this is how I'm supposed to be as a woman. 395 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't ask for help. If I need something high 396 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm only five ft, I just get something to knock 397 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: it down, or a step school one, because I'm usually 398 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: faster at doing that. And too, I don't want to 399 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: inconvenience my husband to have him stop what he's doing 400 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: or make him get up when he's relaxing right now. 401 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: We're also on a budget, so I'll let my husband 402 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: and child get their wants and needs, and I don't 403 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: ask for much. My husband says it makes him feel 404 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: like I don't need him because I do everything myself. 405 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't ask him to help or allow him to 406 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: buy me things. The things he wants to buy me 407 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: are usually more his style and more pricedier than I 408 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: would spend because I don't see the worth in it. 409 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: For example, a fifty is nail polished bottle. I'm perfectly 410 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: fine buying a five to tend five to ten different 411 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: colors of a cheaper brand because they're gonna chip off anyway. 412 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: He says, since he's not providing financially, he feels inadequate 413 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: and me asking him for help or allowing him to 414 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: buy me things would make him feel like he's at 415 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: least contributing to my happiness. But she's still buying stuff 416 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: on her home money though. I don't get that right 417 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: because he's to say, at home dad, he's not working. 418 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: How do I break out of the habit and mentality 419 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: of I got this or I don't want to inconvenience him, 420 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: so I don't ask. I've always been independent and if 421 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: I do something, I'll figure it out. If I can't 422 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: do something, I'll figure it out. How do I allow 423 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: him to do these things without losing my own independence? 424 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: Another part of me doing things on my own is 425 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: my childhood environment. The women did everything to take care 426 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: of their men, and they didn't have to lift a finger. 427 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: I want my husband to feel needed and wanted, but 428 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: also want to keep my independence and self worth in 429 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: knowing I don't need anyone to take care of me. 430 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for your advice and your inspiring podcasts and family. 431 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: M hmmm, lady, look at your one thing. I'm gonna 432 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: talking about yourself. You're gonna know what her answer. Just 433 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: end our body language. Now, this this is really good. Though, 434 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: This is really good because I think that, you know, 435 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: society has shifted a little bit and that there are 436 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: more women making more money than men, right, and we 437 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: do feel as women a sense of independence and a 438 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 1: sense of strength from that. Um. But that is not 439 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: good for a relationship. I think. I think a man 440 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: feels them emasculated. I think that let him go on 441 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: about that fifty dollar mail polished, which I've never seen before. 442 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm very intrigued by saying I haven't 443 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: even said that same, but like, let's right, let let 444 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: him buy that and be happy and excited that he's 445 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: doing that for you, even though you feel like it's 446 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: a waste of money. Um, But you got to give 447 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: the man something that he feels like he's in charge, 448 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: that he is contributing, that he is doing something to 449 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: make him his lady feel, um, a sense of security, 450 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: and that he is making her happy. Like you know, 451 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: I am the biggest independent woman on earth. And I've 452 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: learned later in life that I gotta like make up 453 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: shipped to like allow to God to feel like helping 454 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: me out, even I fee himself. But I gotta give 455 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: it to him anyway so that they feel like they're contributing. Um. 456 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: So I get where she's coming from, but like, let 457 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: him be a man, just let him do it. I mean, 458 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: first of all the fact that he's but the fact 459 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: he's to stay at home dad, I think like that's 460 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: a major contribution. So I think you should probably maybe 461 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: um acknowledge that a lot with him, you know, just 462 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: like reinforce that, tell him, you know how important he 463 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: is to to her the family, and and she can't 464 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: do what she does without him being a stay at 465 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: home dad. Like, so she's got to like pump his 466 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: his ego up in that sense. Um, I get what 467 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: she I get where she's coming from. Where she's like, 468 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: I just do it myself because I'm the I'm that 469 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: type of person. I'm like, if I want something, I'm 470 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: do it. I don't I don't need, you know, anyone 471 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: to do things for me because I'm gonna figure out 472 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: how to do it. Um, But I do think, um, yeah, 473 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: she just needs a let she needs to let him 474 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: lead and he can. She needs to let him if 475 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: he wants to treat our nice, let him treat our nice. 476 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: But mostly like she just needs to just pump his 477 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: head up and just tell him how important he is 478 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: to um just the daily, you know, being able to 479 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: do what she does. She can't do what she does 480 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: without him taking care of their kids. So what I 481 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: wonder though, is is she genuinely happy in herself being 482 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: this for their family, Because it doesn't read that she's 483 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: just like, this makes me so happy to be of 484 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: service to my husband in this capacity and do all 485 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: of this for my family. She's saying it more like 486 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: she's been conditioned to do this because this was the 487 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: norm that she grew up in. So it doesn't read 488 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: and here at all that the reason why I'm doing 489 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: this is because it just is so fulfilling for me, 490 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: and it makes me so happy to do it. It's 491 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: giving more just like that's just what I've seen growing up. Well, 492 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 1: this is this is what I believe. I feel like 493 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: even in this generation, Like Gesell said, earlier, society has changed. Right, 494 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: socio economically, things are way different. The women she why 495 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: growing up probably weren't out earning their husbands. So those 496 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: women might have been stayed at home moms or might 497 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: have worked part time, so their contribution was to do 498 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: everything for their husband that their husband was out working 499 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: a nine to five or twelve hour days. But when 500 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: your husband is home with the kids and then you 501 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: come home and tell him I'm gonna take her everything. 502 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: So she's been out working a nine to five and 503 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: then she has to come home. That's a difference a 504 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: different socio economic system that women are existing and in 505 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: today's time, for example, you can't ask a woman to be, 506 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: for example, an old school type of woman if you 507 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: don't provide old school values right and old school values 508 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: are provided that a man goes out and work in 509 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: a man, a woman stays at home if she wants to. 510 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: Like for example, in our household, I earn more than 511 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: enough money for both me and my wife to not work, 512 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: but my wife wants to work. So when she works, 513 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: she works. She wants to make her own money. She 514 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: makes her own money. But since I provided her with 515 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: the opportunity some of the traditional things that I want 516 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: in a wife, that when I come home, she doesn't 517 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: have a problem doing it because she feels a freedom 518 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: and comfort. Asking a woman to do both both be 519 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: an earner and be a homemaker when she gets home 520 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: to me is just unfair. And I think for him, 521 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: that feeling of inadequacy comes from naturally feeling like, wait 522 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: a minute, what am I doing here? I'm gonna stay 523 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: at home dad. Plus when my wife comes home, she 524 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: doesn't need me either. She does everything like and and 525 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: she really can't talk him out of feeling that way. 526 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: He would have to get his ass up and do 527 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: something like. I feel like all people just need their 528 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: own purpose that man or woman like, everybody needs their 529 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: own purpose. And it's not on your partner to make 530 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: to tell you like, hey, you're everything I need. Now 531 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: you gotta figure out who you are on your own, 532 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: or she always gonna feel inadequate. So I just think 533 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: he needs to work on his self esteem a little bit, 534 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: and she needs to be this this was from her 535 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: or from him, This is from yeah, So she needs 536 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: to tell him go get a job, get a job 537 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: the kids. Look, you know, you know I'm not mad 538 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: at that. I'm not mad at that. If you want 539 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: to buy me mes nail polish, right, go get a 540 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: job so you can buy me nail polishy with your money. 541 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: If I'm working my ass off and then I come 542 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: home to take care of you, and then you said 543 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: you want to make me feel better about getting money 544 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: from me to buy me stuff real quick Yeah, that's 545 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: what's the pen like, you know what I'm saying. It 546 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: didn't Yeah, it didn't sound like she was complaining though 547 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: that I'm wondering, she's just right. He's complaining, complaining if 548 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: she's right, If she's right, and then she is complaining 549 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: like if she's right, and then she is complaining. But 550 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the resentment to start to build. At 551 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: some point, there's going to be some resentment building for sure. 552 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: But Robin did have a point. No, No, I was 553 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: just gonna say, if I'm working, i come home, I'm resentful. 554 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: You have to get up and be doing about something. 555 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: Make that helf busy. Yes, I'll feel you that. I 556 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: feel you in that Kadena and I have gone through 557 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: do that thing where it's just it's just whoever's out 558 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: for the day, and when they come home and that 559 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: person is just home, you just be looking at them. 560 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Why you just descread it though, to stay at home parent, 561 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: because we know what it's like to sit at home 562 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: and be with kids home all day. Like it looks 563 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: as if I'm home and I'm coming I'm crazy, I'm 564 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: sleeping all day, But no, I'm running after kids and 565 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: doing household ship. You know what I'm saying that she 566 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: did she say did she said? She said my husband 567 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: and child. I let my husband and child. One was 568 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: my argument. I want her to never write in again. Okay, ridiculous. 569 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: Robin had a point though. Robin's point was, it doesn't 570 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: sound like she's complaining, right, it doesn't sound like she's 571 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: like she doesn't have a problem with herself, but her 572 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: husband is the one with the problem. So let's just 573 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: think about this, right, just think about it. Psychologically, she's 574 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: the one that goes to She's the one that feels 575 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: like she has to give them everything they want, and 576 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: now she feels like she has to fix her husband. 577 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 1: There is something there. She's not complaining, but there is 578 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: something if she feels she sees all the things that 579 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: are wrong, and she's asking us to tell her, you 580 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 1: know how we can fix this. But now, so your 581 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: husband stays at home and he wants the money to 582 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: buy you gifts, and now he has a problem with 583 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: he feels inadequate. That there's something wrong there. Now there's 584 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: something she's not complaining, but she's pointing it out. Yeah, 585 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: she's complaining. He's leaving something out. But it's definitely It's 586 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: definitely deep, and I think as the longer goes on, 587 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be frustrating for both of them. It's better, 588 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: it's better for her to let go let him do 589 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: some things around the house. But also it's something to 590 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: get a job. Yes, yeah, it's just I want to 591 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: see my man providing and feeling that sense of security 592 00:30:51,040 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: and comfort and just on, okay, man, did the check clear? 593 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: That's what I want to you know, I do that. 594 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: I do that sometimes just to like to like get 595 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: her all excited. I go up, I go outside and 596 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: I opened up like the hood of the car, and 597 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: I just rubbed my hands on everything so it would 598 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: get dirty. And then I just come back in the 599 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: house like you just had to fix the carburetor. Meanwhile, 600 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: we have an electric we haven't electric cars, so there's 601 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: nothing under there. I like a husband that can look 602 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: at that wiping my hands on that for us. Okay, 603 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: number three this is this is a novel here all right. 604 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: Hello Codeine and Devout. First and foremost, I wanted to 605 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: say that I love you guys so much and we 606 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: love you too. Thank you. You two are really amazing 607 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: in your podcast has really helped me live a better 608 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: life for myself, and it's giving me different aspects for 609 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: how to raise my child. So thanks for that. I 610 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: thank you. You're so welcome, my monkey. To start off 611 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: this story. Whenever, whenever someone puts off the start off 612 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: this story, you know this is about to be wild. 613 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: To start off the story. I really need help with 614 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: my relationship. I don't know what to do, and there's 615 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: so much to say, but I'm gonna try to give it. 616 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: Give you the shortest version. Okay, she's already two paragraphs 617 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: and we know nothing. My husband and I have been 618 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: together for five years, married for four short time. I know, right, 619 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: but I think we have come to the end of 620 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: our role in our relationship. The damage has been done. 621 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: We have been to three counselors and still can't get 622 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: it right. I think it's him, he thinks it's me, 623 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: someone on, and so forth. She's very, very articulate and 624 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: extremely colorful with his writing. The disrespect between these past 625 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: few arguments leaves current convos short and sometimes just unresolved. 626 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: We barely have sex maybe once or twice a month. 627 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm just not in the mood anymore. I feel like 628 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: I've been hurt so many times. And I don't feel 629 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: like I can be vulnerable with him anymore. It seems 630 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: like I'm living with my enemy. I've tried everything, guys, 631 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: but I'm the only one who seems to be putting 632 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: any actual effort to try to make changes, and I 633 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: get nothing from him. He huffs and puffs every time 634 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: I try to talk, and we'll say whatever he wants 635 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: to hurt me and lashes out from time to time. 636 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: On top of that, no conversation ever gets finished because 637 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: if he doesn't like what I said, he gets up 638 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: and walks away. Damn, it doesn't matter if she's still going, wow, 639 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: I already got it. What's happening here? Uh? It doesn't matter. 640 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: If I come to him with some respect, watch my 641 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: tone or lower my voice, I get the same results. 642 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: He was really interested in counseling and told me that 643 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: he didn't believe in it, which makes me feel like 644 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: the three counselors were a waste of time. Nor was 645 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: he really an active participate in our sessions either. The 646 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: situation has been going on for almost two years. They've 647 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: only been married for four years. We never go out 648 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: as a couple of our family stopped like yo yo, 649 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: let me tell you something about Gazelle. Gazelle laugh, she's 650 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: going full hard, She's gonna Okay, I'm sorry. I feel 651 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: resentment because how he treated me in the beginning, as 652 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: beginning has all changed. He used to be the sweetest guy. 653 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking demand of my dreams. I thought I wouldn't 654 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: ever want to be with anyone else in the world. 655 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: This is until I moved in with him and realized 656 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: who he truly was. But now I feel like he 657 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: knows that he's got me, and he thinks I probably 658 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: won't go anywhere, But I'm starting to think otherwise. We 659 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: have a baby together, he's almost two, and I don't 660 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: want to separate our household and raise myself alone. I 661 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: can't even afford it if I wanted to. I'm twenty six. 662 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm twenty six and he's thirty one, and I've been okay, oh, 663 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: I have an okay paying job. But you know, when 664 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: you're from New York or you're from New York and 665 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: oh man, that's tough. And she said that Jersey Rent 666 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: be busted. That is, by the way, But back to 667 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: the story. We're going back to the story. Oh wow, okay, um, 668 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: what's her question? I really have strong thoughts about being 669 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: with someone else. I know there's someone out there that 670 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: would treat me better and not degrade or continuously disrespect me. 671 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: Our last convo was the final straw. I have had 672 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: brain fog from COVID, intends to stutter and can't think 673 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: of words the same conversations, and he made sure that 674 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: he laughed at me, that's fucked up, made fun of 675 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: the fact that I fight this nick let me not 676 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: even going there, made fun of the fact that I 677 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: couldn't speak, and told me that this is my sister. 678 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: He get hands put on him, I should get my 679 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: ship together and then come to him. I was hurt. 680 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: Guy's honestly hurt. I know the damage has been done 681 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: on both sides. I am far from perfect. Okay, I'm 682 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: not gonna read it. She still has a lot good. 683 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: She wants to know should I leave, should I stay? 684 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: What should I do? I really wish I could stay, 685 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: she said, would I'd be wrong for telling him that 686 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: I think an open marriage would be the best thing 687 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: for us at this point or for me? Or should 688 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: I follow divorce and deal with the consequences and call 689 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: it a day. Oh my gosh. Okay, I know that's 690 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: a lot, Like what do you do when you truly 691 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: feel like there's nothing left? Well? In open marriage? And 692 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: as she was reading, I was like, could just leave 693 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: and then pop in, Oh we have a two year old? 694 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: Oh we lived together. I can't afford the rent is 695 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: expensive And that's where that's her problem. It's like she's 696 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: I think if you didn't have the child, if you didn't, 697 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: if you weren't able to live on your own, then 698 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: you would have been gone. So you yeah, and and 699 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: what you what she's dealing with right now? Like it's 700 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: only going to get worse. Clearly, you've been at three counselors. 701 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: It's only going to get worse. You have a child. 702 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: Your child doesn't need to be raised in an environment 703 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: like that. So I'm sorry she's gonna have to in 704 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: my opinion, following hard times, Yeah, she gotta like it's 705 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: it sucks. I don't you know. We don't want to 706 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: promote divorce and all that. We want to keep our 707 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: families together. But this is not going to get any better. 708 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: She's gonna be miserable, it's gonna get worse. We don't 709 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: want it to get to a point where it's extremely 710 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: toxic and you have a child, So do what you 711 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: can do and figure out how to help to get 712 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: out of there and file for divorce. This what I mean. 713 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: She can say if she wants to, but she can stay. 714 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: But he left a long time ago. Okay, mentally and emotionally, 715 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: that brother been gone, So it's over. Get your baby 716 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: and bounce. It's a ratter, and figure out how to 717 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: financially make it, make it work. I mean, I'm sure 718 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: you've got a mama, a grandmama, us and somebody you 719 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: can stay with until you can get yourself financially on 720 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: your feet. Um. I mean, this is a no brainer, girl, Bounce, Yeah, 721 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: I would. I would have to say, you know, the 722 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: first thing is realizing that they've only been married for 723 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: four years. A lot of times people just look at 724 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: time and be like that so long, I've invested so much. 725 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: And then she has to get rid of that shame 726 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: of getting divorced. Right, there's nothing wrong with getting a divorce. 727 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: Most people stay in a marriage because they're like, I 728 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: don't want to be shamed by saying I got a divorce. 729 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: But they think it's feeling. But to be honest, feeling 730 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: is staying in a relationship where you're underappreciated and being abused. 731 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: Like these small things right here start off as that 732 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: type of abuse till that type of abuse isn't enough, 733 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: and then it gets to be more. When someone openly 734 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: wants to make fun of you or degrade you or 735 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: make you feel like you're less than that's how abuse starts. 736 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: And then with that no longer works because at some 737 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: point she's gonna get used to that and ignore it. 738 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: That's when the abuse goes to another level. And I've 739 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: seen it so many times and so many of the 740 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: men and women, and I've I've talked to that. It 741 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: always starts somewhere and you can see it coming and 742 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: you say, oh, they'll change if I do more. And 743 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: the more you do, the worst they get. I know. 744 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: The old school approach is like, you know, wait till 745 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: you're married to move in. But that's why I'm a 746 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: proponent for living with somebody before you get married and 747 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: you make that final final decisions. Because she said everything 748 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: was fine her dreams till they moved in, and then 749 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: what happens. You're representative that you've representing to this woman 750 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: the entire time can no longer sustain a living situation. 751 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now, the real persons don't 752 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: come to pass, and it's just like ship. If I 753 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: had known that living with him was gonna be like 754 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: this and this is how life was going to be, 755 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: I might not even married his ass to begin with. 756 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: I also got to say this though, baby, And let's 757 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: not forget they only dated for a year before they 758 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: got married too, so they barely know each other when 759 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: they got married. But I'm doing a math. She got pregnant, 760 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: they got married. The baby is about babies about two years. Yeah, 761 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: they got married, Well, they've been married for four years. 762 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: For four years, Okay, fine, my math was wrong. My 763 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: math was wrong. But if you think about it, it's 764 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: like they were dating for a year, got married, got pregnant, right, 765 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: You really didn't know this person. And babies change relationships 766 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: even people. For example, K and I were together for 767 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: eight years before we had Jackson, and having Jackson completely 768 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: changed the dynamic of our relationship. And this was a 769 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: woman that I had known for eight years. Imagine you 770 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: don't know somebody and they get pregnant and then you 771 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: move in. It's like you've taken all the varials that 772 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: are possible all those variables and put them in one situation. 773 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: It's almost a recipe for disaster. So, and she got married. 774 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: You know, she said she's twenty six, So she got 775 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,959 Speaker 1: married when she was twenty two. So you really didn't notice. Yeah, 776 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: you really didn't notice yourself. You can't know. He's right, 777 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: you did, she didn't know. She didn't know him. You 778 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: were way too young to be getting married at two 779 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: years old. I'm like, and and I want to give 780 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: her some um encouragement and optimis optimistic, you know, just guidance, 781 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: Like life evolved, it changes. You grow so much and 782 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: so yes you're twenty two, but you have so much 783 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: growing to do, so don't feel like you're stuck. Like, 784 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: just look at this experience. Um, you know if it 785 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: if it ends, and it doesn't end, well just look 786 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: at it as a learning lesson. It's something to just 787 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: add to your life story, you know. So, Um, but 788 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: if you stay imagine if you stay in this relationship 789 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: for ten more years and you stuck and you're you know, 790 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: it's toxic. You can't grow, you can't. So yeah, just 791 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: it's kind to move on. And you don't like her 792 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: any more anyway. So it's open. He don't, like, there's 793 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: no way any any man that would openly just laugh 794 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: at their significant other, who's who's obviously going through something 795 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: like brain fog from COVID and stuttering. Like I like 796 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: to laugh at everybody, right, I love to laugh, But 797 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: I would never laugh at my wife and she's going 798 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: through something that firstly trying to hurt her feelings. He 799 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: might just be the one pushing her out, because you do. 800 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes the person that wants a divorce sometimes doesn't want 801 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: to be the one to initiate it. So it's almost 802 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: as if he seems like he's pushing all these buttons 803 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: for her to pull the trigger. Just pug. He's thirty one, 804 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: which means he got married when he was twenty five. Yeah, yeah, 805 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: like he was one. You got a lot of life, 806 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: a whole lot of life, mama. Do what's best for 807 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: you and your baby. Go find your piece, being a 808 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: healthy relationship. And you're right if you're twenty six, there's 809 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: plenty of men out there who would be like, hey, 810 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: what's up, mama. They're going to start small talk with you, 811 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: except if you run into robbing. Robin ain't on small 812 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: Robin gonna walk right up to you and be like, 813 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: what's up with you need your kids? Why are you 814 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: both here to the bar? Why are you both here 815 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: in the bar? You're the kid. See, I'm ready to 816 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 1: throw this next Lets this next letter out because it 817 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: starts with hello uncle Devala auntie KK. First of all, 818 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: I ain't y'all what I'm not your aunt. You can 819 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: call me sis, but I'll be making me feel some 820 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: kind of way like y'all trying to put me in 821 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: a certain age bracket. Let me slain something to you. Okay, 822 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. We're going to the next You'll 823 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: can't do that to people, ma'aw. I mean, I like 824 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: the term of endearman. But let's say listen, del and 825 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: sis thek There we go, There we go. You could 826 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: be old. I'm not gonna be old. Are you on TikTok? Ladies? 827 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: Are y'all on TikTok? Yeah? You're not on TikTok. You 828 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: know why I'm not on TikTok. I tried to get 829 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: on TikTok. My head starting hurt. It was too much 830 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: stuff going on over there. Yeah, the kids that was 831 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: on there was between fifteen and twenty two. And all 832 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: of those kids could be my kids. So when they 833 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: have to TikTok, you gotta jump in and jump out. 834 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: It's not for your it's not for age. You're right 835 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: to stay on it longer than fifteen seconds an assumption 836 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, that's time spend. I guess, I mean, 837 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: I guess we're approaching. If you're on the Instagram Facebook group, 838 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna call you auntie that we're Instagram Facebook. You 839 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you you are uncle owning 840 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: you as auntie? Then alright, alright, niece all r. Let 841 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: me see what my niece gotta say today. Y'all. I 842 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: think it's a girl. Are we talking to? I just 843 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: want to start by saying thank you for every episode 844 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: you've ever created. This is music to my ears, my 845 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: everyday ears. My fiance and I have been together since 846 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,240 Speaker 1: high school, which will be nine years on November six, 847 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: for two years all right now. We've recently bought a 848 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: new house and we have one kid together, one on 849 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 1: the way. He's literally my best friend and I couldn't 850 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: see our lives without each other in it. Don't get 851 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: me wrong. We've gone through some bad time where we 852 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: just didn't know if we could make it, but we did. 853 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: We're planning to get married next year, but when we 854 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: got pregnant, we really couldn't afford a wedding, which was 855 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: what we both wanted. I know you talked about if 856 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 1: you guys can get married again, you would do it differently. 857 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,439 Speaker 1: What's some advice that you we should take? Just to say, 858 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: I do I hope to get a chance. Oh sorry, child, 859 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,479 Speaker 1: I hope you get a chance to read my letter. 860 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see you live again in Philly. 861 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: So what's some advice that we should take into consideration? 862 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: I guess before they say I do. So. So my 863 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: first wedding was in two thousand five and we had 864 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: four people there and it was the time of my life. 865 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: It was amazing. We had so much fun, so many memories. 866 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: It was great. But I would never do it again. 867 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 1: So you know, now, intimate weddings to me are very nice. Um. 868 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: I had an intimate wedding. Um, but like three receptions 869 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: and then were was just stupid. But um, can you 870 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: know you gotta explain that. Don't don't bloss over that 871 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: why we had three receptions? I got to know quirement 872 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: to Okay, So I got married to this guy's a 873 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: pastor of a church, so he wanted a reception for 874 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: the church. So that was Lottie Dottie and everybody that 875 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: was probably like five people. Yeah, okay, So I just 876 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,240 Speaker 1: felt like I felt like, because I had the intimate 877 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: wedding um, the ceremony, I didn't mind doing all the 878 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: other receptions because I had like that personal intimate moment, 879 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: which was important to me because I think a lot 880 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: of times when people think about weddings, they're thinking about 881 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: everyone else, like we're having to a peace. When Valin 882 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: I got married, we were the first on either side, 883 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: you know, first like niece and nephew, first grandchild, like 884 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: we were the first to get married. So all the 885 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: excitement was around us getting married. So we had a 886 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 1: smooth people at our wedding, and the day was never 887 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: do that again and never in life. I was like, 888 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know, I don't even know care to know, 889 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: like half of the people that was there, maybe just 890 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: a percentage of them that I still talked to, I 891 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: would never do that again. And at that point for 892 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 1: us too, it was like people said, you know, Devot 893 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: gave me pretty much an option. He said, do you 894 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: want a house or do you want a wedding? And 895 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I want both. Say that though 896 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: she said, she said, you know, I really want to 897 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: winning as you're a girl. You put the pillow cans 898 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: in your head and you talking about being a bride. 899 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: And that's when I dreamed of my own time and 900 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: my whole line. I didn't quite said like she said. 901 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: She wanted this wedding so bad. And this is the 902 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: funny part. We had already owned the property in Michigan. 903 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: When I was playing ball, we bought a house, so 904 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: in her defense, we already owned two properties. So but 905 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 1: we were living in an apartment in We were living 906 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: an apartment in Brooklyn because I had got cut, so 907 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: we were living in an apartment in Brooklyn. And I 908 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: said to her, we buy a brownstone in Brooklyn, or 909 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: we would have to live in this apartment for five 910 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: years while I rebuild so that we can do something 911 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: else with the resources. And she said, I don't mind 912 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: staying in this apartment. It's really really nice. I like 913 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: it here, ladies, ladies. The minute we came back from 914 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: the honeymoon, she sat on the edge of the bed 915 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: right and I was just like, what's what's the matter? 916 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: Tears come down her eyes. I don't want to stay 917 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: in this apartment. I was like, really, our wedding course 918 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 1: the worst investment, the worst investment I have ever made 919 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: in my life. But I will say this, I will 920 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: say this, we had the time of our life and 921 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: we ended up getting the wedding we wanted and we 922 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: have the house we wanted. So we got both. It 923 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: just didn't happen on the time she wanted it to 924 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: happen or I wanted to happen. And in between the 925 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: time from getting the wedding in the house, it was very, 926 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: very difficult, Like financially we were we were trying to 927 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: make ends meet, Like it was just a poor investment. 928 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: We were in mid twenties, like we just had no 929 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: clue about what we were doing, and we thought we 930 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: knew everything. So my advice to them would be think 931 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: about the marriage, not the wedding. If you focus on 932 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: the marriage, you'll make a decision that will last more 933 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 1: long term. Sinse Yeah, because going into it, it seems 934 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: like they have a pretty solid, healthy situation going on here. 935 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: It's just a dilemma over this whole wedding thing. Yeah, 936 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,760 Speaker 1: I agree, and I've I've seen beautiful images of small, 937 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: intimate weddings that looked like they're full of love. You 938 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: make sure you have the people that you really really 939 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: really love and wanted to be there, and you know 940 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: they were able to keep keep it out of really 941 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: small budget. And so I think, you know, a lot 942 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: of people get caught up in the whole like, oh, 943 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: I want this big wedding to please other people, like 944 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: you said, and you gotta realize like, no, this, you 945 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: gotta be smart and big long term and realize that 946 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to please other people, but 947 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: you can also have a beautiful wedding that you had 948 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: to create memories, long lasting memories, and you'll be happy 949 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: with So yeah, so true. People in search of the 950 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: Instagram mob moments. Yeah, if you have money to waste, 951 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: you have money to waste, money to barn, then fall out, 952 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: have your big wedding with people that you're not gonna 953 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: talk to ever beginning life. Fall out. But if if 954 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: that's not how you're living, which is obviously these people 955 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: that wrote, then you really have to be mindful about 956 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: what matters, and what matters is you and him, that's it. 957 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 1: And the and the babies. M that's that's what matters. 958 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: So make it makes sense as it relates to people 959 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: that love you for a lot. Yeah, I've seen some 960 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 1: really cute when it's like Devo's best friend and his wife. 961 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: Now they up and went to Italy, just the two 962 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: of them, and she had a beautiful gown. He was 963 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: in like a tailor custom tux. They had an efficiant, 964 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 1: they had a photographer, a videographer out on the Amalfi 965 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 1: coast and the flowers. That's I'm speaking it and I'm 966 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: gonna say this too, right, I'm gonna put to rest 967 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 1: the stigma that when it comes to weddings that it's 968 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,919 Speaker 1: only women who want to have a big wedding. Because 969 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: remember what he talked about what people wanted to do, 970 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: things real big. I'm people, I'm people. The minute Case 971 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 1: said to me she wanted to have a big wedding, 972 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, so because your ego as 973 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: a man is fine. All my boys playing ball, what 974 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: they have for their wives. They had how many courses? 975 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: We want fourteen courses, we want fourteen courses. And it 976 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: was just like Mr Ellis, you show I see the positive, baby, 977 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: whatever you want you can get. So here, I am 978 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: trying to be big ball and not having the money 979 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 1: because my ego wouldn't allow me to say that. I couldn't. 980 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: You know, I had to downsize my wedding. So it's 981 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: not only women fellas. We fall into that too, And 982 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: I was definitely victim of trying to keep up with 983 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: the Joneses at that moment, and I regretted it afterwards. 984 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: Were really invested to I was just like, what's the 985 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: what's the wedding color is going to because my favorite 986 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: color is red? It should be red. And I was like, 987 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: I was like, why we care? Like you're really invested 988 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: that much of this wedding and he's like, well, if 989 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm paying for that ship, you gotta be red. I 990 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: was like, okay, so harm whispering to the wedding planner 991 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: the red doesn't go with my yellow. What are we 992 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: going to make this work? I was? I was a 993 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: little bit of a diva. Red drawers, my guy, get 994 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 1: you some red drawing a day? Well, ship, speaking of 995 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: calling it a day, it looks like we're gonna have 996 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: to wrap with you guys soon. I think we're coming 997 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: to up. I know, Triple just gave me the the 998 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: group chat. We got to get to the end of 999 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: this um. But I would love to have y'all back. 1000 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: I think we were doing We were just on the 1001 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg of getting good with some other 1002 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: stuff here too. So yeah, scratching the surface and we 1003 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: love to crush over event let us know for sure. 1004 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: But if y'all come to reasonly shadey, I'll have to understand, 1005 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: it's nothing but shade. I love. I like shady. Actually, 1006 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: I think it's fun. I guess for the sake of 1007 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: our our people who normally listening, we had to code 1008 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: it with love. But we do agree we like in 1009 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: the moments of shade. So if we have somewhere we 1010 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: can unleash the shade, I'm I'm with it. Our whole 1011 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: podcasts came built of shading. We shaded each other like 1012 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: we we told each other about each other for the 1013 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: first four seasons and we didn't ingesting and love, but 1014 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 1: we definitely was shading each other. This is definitely like that, 1015 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 1: this podcast. I don't know how it's been for you guys, 1016 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 1: but it's definitely been like therapy for us. We usually 1017 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: have discoveries every episode, like I didn't even know you 1018 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: thought that, or like who are you again? Like this 1019 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 1: person you know about things some delustional every day every day. 1020 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: But we love y'all so much, Thank you so much. 1021 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: Let everybody know where we can find your podcast, where 1022 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 1: they can find you your show, what you have going on? 1023 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: Go ahead and drop that plug. Yes recently Shady podcast. 1024 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: We download episodes or upload episodes every Monday. But we 1025 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: were on any anywhere you can catch your your podcast, Apple, Spotify, 1026 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: all that good stuff, um, Instagram at recently show your 1027 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: podcast what else and catch us on And we're also yeah, 1028 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: we're also on Patreon so um recently on Patreon, so 1029 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: both check that out. And yes, every Sunday, eight o'clock 1030 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: on Bravo TV, The Real Housewives, The Potomac whichever, whichever. 1031 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie. I'm not even gonna lie. 1032 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 1: I don't have time to watch TV right, but after 1033 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 1: meeting you guys like this, it does make me want 1034 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: to watch you on TV because I want to see 1035 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I got a chance to actually see y'all. 1036 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: So y'all are both really sweet, and I know the 1037 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: Housewives they always be going at each other. I don't 1038 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: want to see what does l say to fuck somebody down, 1039 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 1: because I don't know Robin. Robin is going to be 1040 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 1: the one. Like listen, guy, she didn't mean it like that. 1041 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: That's not exactly how she meant that. She might have 1042 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 1: said your breath stink, but she didn't mean it like that. 1043 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 1: And she didn't mean your baby was ugly. She didn't 1044 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: mean it. She said it. Lord, check it out. You 1045 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: should definitely watch. We're very entertaining and you're gonna learn 1046 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,919 Speaker 1: a lot about both of us. But okay, that just out. Yeah, 1047 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: the Shady was not least. We have a I am 1048 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: that's for not least. We have a live show, a 1049 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 1: reasently should Shady Love show in New York November twenty six. 1050 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: So it's that Thanksgiving weekend. So after you eat that 1051 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: turky on Thursday, then on Saturday at City Winery, we 1052 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 1: are going to have our Lives show. So you're all 1053 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: in town, come check us out. Beautiful. That would be 1054 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,919 Speaker 1: so dope. Absolutely, I can't wait to sit with y'all 1055 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: again and chat some more. But we're gonna let you 1056 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:48,919 Speaker 1: go for now. Thank you all for joining us. Thank 1057 00:54:48,960 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: you you guys. Sorry, thank you to each and every 1058 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: one of you who have written into our listener letters, 1059 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: and you know, even if you haven't been selected yet, 1060 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: keep writing, keep sending, because I'm sure at some point 1061 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 1: we will definitely get to your letter. And if you 1062 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 1: want to be featured as a listener letter and you 1063 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 1: have not written in yet, email us at dead as 1064 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: Advice at gmail dot com. That's right, that's D E 1065 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: A D A S S A D V I C 1066 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: E at gmail dot com. All right, I'm on a 1067 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: truth time after getting the Giselle and Robbin's perspective on 1068 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 1: these listener letters. I hope you guys found some of 1069 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 1: the advice helpful this time around. I guess my moment 1070 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: of truth is that you know, no one can really 1071 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: tell y'all what to do in these situations. I mean, 1072 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 1: it's fun for us to listen and to maybe offer 1073 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: a different perspective, but ultimately, you have to live in 1074 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: that body of yours. You have to live in those situations. 1075 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: You have to live in that life. You have to 1076 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: put your head on that pillow at night and and 1077 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 1: be we hope content at the very least with the 1078 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: life that you're living. So that being said, I guess 1079 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: you can take our stuff with a grain of salt, 1080 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: or you can take it with the hole enchilada. Hopefully 1081 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: you're doing what makes you happy first and foremost facts. 1082 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say you right, And I want 1083 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 1: to add this, being reasonably shady or dead ass can 1084 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: be extremely healthy because once you take the sugar off 1085 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: the coating and you've got to deal with the hard truth, 1086 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 1: sometimes that's the best medicine, right to take the sugar off. 1087 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 1: That's cute. Take the sugar off the dry ass cupcake 1088 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: because the cupcakes be dry sometimes? Are you gonna remix 1089 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: my saying? I just said it off the flip? It 1090 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: was a mic drop. Why you had to remix my joints? 1091 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: Cute though, But I just made me think of like 1092 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: the times when you've had like the icing on the 1093 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: cake and the cake be dry. Are you hungry? Are 1094 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,839 Speaker 1: you hungry? Hungry? I think it's lunchtime, y'all, because it 1095 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: is my moment of truth and you're trying to remix 1096 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: my moment of truth. Now we're talking about pastry. Come on, now, 1097 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 1: ellis that was reasonably shady? Well, you know what you 1098 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: should do? 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