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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome inn nour number two Klay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us here on

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Speaker 2: this President's Day edition of the program. Both Bucky myself

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Speaker 2: will give you our list of top three best and

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Speaker 2: the top three worst presidents. So far as we can

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Speaker 2: count it, I'll give you maybe, we'll give you the

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Speaker 2: best at the bottom of this hour. We'll start off

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Speaker 2: with the best, and then we'll give you our worst

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Speaker 2: at the bottom of the third hour. In the meantime,

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Speaker 2: we'll be taking your calls. You can react to our list,

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Speaker 2: you can give us your own list.

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Speaker 1: But Buck, I.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to dive in. This was Friday on the Bill

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Speaker 2: Maher Show. Our friend Anne Colter was on and she

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Speaker 2: was talking about something that we talked about on the

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Speaker 2: show on Friday.

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Speaker 1: They need to have you on. By the way, I've

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Speaker 1: been on a few times AND's been on like a

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Speaker 1: dozen times. Clay Travis needs someone out there who knows

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Speaker 1: Bill Maher. Clay needs to be on the Bill marsh Show.

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Speaker 1: I've been on. They should have me back. But clayt

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Speaker 1: needs to get on there. I've never been invited. I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's two shows that I would like to do that

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Speaker 2: I have never been on. I would like to do

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Speaker 2: Bill Maher because I think that is a very interesting

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Speaker 2: show where people of diverse opinions actually sit and discuss

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Speaker 2: their diverse opinions, which I think we need more of,

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Speaker 2: and I would like to do Joe Rogan. Never been

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Speaker 2: invited on Joe Rogan, never been invited on Bill Maher.

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Speaker 2: I've been invited most other places in the media, and

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Speaker 2: I know you've done a lot of CNN, BOK, Fox News,

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Speaker 2: MSNBC back in the day, probably kind.

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Speaker 1: Of done it. Officially banned from CNN.

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Speaker 2: I am officially banned from CNN and the ESPN. Maybe

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Speaker 2: the only person in America who's not allowed to appear

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Speaker 2: on either. That's like being banned from entry into Iran

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Speaker 2: and North Korea.

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Speaker 1: That like that. I know it is a badge of

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Speaker 1: honor in some way, and so I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's connected somehow to not being able to go on

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Speaker 1: Bill Maher Joe Rogan. But I've never been invited on either.

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Speaker 2: I did get invited, by the way, speaking of crazy invitations,

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Speaker 2: I told you this off the AAR. I got invited

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Speaker 2: to speech speak to the Cambridge Debate Society in England,

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Speaker 2: which is I think pretty badass. So I may end

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Speaker 2: up trying to do that if the timing works out.

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Speaker 2: But if you had on your twenty twenty four board

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis speaking in Cambridge or Oxford, that would probably

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Speaker 2: be not expected.

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Speaker 1: You definitely need to show up wearing a top hat

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Speaker 1: and a monocle with an ascot and demand that they

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Speaker 1: all call you the Earl of Travis.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I can get knighted while I'm over there. Since

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Speaker 2: I've been very very positive towards the royal family, particularly

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Speaker 2: Queen Elizabeth, who's come in for some dastardly commentary on

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Speaker 2: this program from me.

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Speaker 1: When I got called out by a brit in Utah

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Speaker 1: came up the after She's like, you're great. I love

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Speaker 1: you and Clay, but stop with the nonsense about the

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Speaker 1: royal family. They're great. You know that's really really funny.

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Speaker 1: All right, So this is an awful story.

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Speaker 2: Let me hit you with it, because I don't know

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Speaker 2: that it's going to get the attention that it deserves.

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Speaker 2: To Police officers and one first responder were basically executed

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Speaker 2: in what seems to have been a targeted attack in

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Speaker 2: one first responder I believe he was a fireman. All

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Speaker 2: three of them were killed. They were killed, and I

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Speaker 2: try to avoid giving attention to mass shooters. We've talked

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Speaker 2: about this some on the show, because I think the

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Speaker 2: data reflects that what these people want is to become infamous.

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Speaker 2: They want us all to talk about them and share

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Speaker 2: their name and spread it widely. I think that is

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Speaker 2: one of the drivers for why mass shootings occur, so

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Speaker 2: I try to avoid using the name. But the guy

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Speaker 2: who did it was black, and he was an Obama supporter,

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Speaker 2: and there's evidence of that. You can go search it

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Speaker 2: have not heard about that because the narrative as such

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Speaker 2: The flip side, if there is a white person who

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Speaker 2: last week. We finished the show Friday telling you on

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Speaker 2: One mom was killed, a forty two year old I

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Speaker 2: was killed. Over twenty people were shot. Many of those

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Speaker 2: people were children, and almost immediately everybody said, this mass

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Speaker 2: shooting cannot be allowed to stand. We've got to have

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Speaker 2: gun control. This is unacceptable. Many people in the sports

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Speaker 2: media on ESPN, they took to the airwaves and demanded it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they've covered it since it became clear

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Speaker 2: that these were two black juveniles that were involved in

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Speaker 2: got shot as a result. This is actually what the

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Speaker 2: And in fact, if this shooting in Kansas City had happened, Buck,

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Speaker 2: you said, what Kansas City had something like over one

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Speaker 1: Worst number in the history of the city of Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: It was the highest homicide rate ever.

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Speaker 2: And that would be if it were New York, LA

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Speaker 2: Colter went on Friday, after we had said it on

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Speaker 2: and it's because the shooters were black. If this were

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Speaker 2: everything about him. Listen to that cut.

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Speaker 1: We don't know who did this shooting. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowls.

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Speaker 3: We have some mind if it were a white man shooting.

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Speaker 4: We'd know.

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't know.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they were repressing that reporting.

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Speaker 5: They wouldn't tell us about the transgender woman that shot

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Speaker 5: up the Christian school for what like a year? Oh,

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Speaker 5: San Bernardino out here, remember the crazy terrorist Muslims. That's

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Speaker 5: when I first noticed m they're not telling us who

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Speaker 1: It's not a white male.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know you have special powers. Okay, she was right,

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Speaker 1: And if there's some other component, if there's some other

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Speaker 1: they can. And this is obviously meant to protect certain

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Speaker 1: Then Jones is a pretty is a pretty fiery I've

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Speaker 2: See who was arrested, two young black men. So this

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Speaker 1: Buck. First of all, nobody's going to talk about it now,

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Speaker 2: Twenty people get shot at a Super Bowl parade in

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Speaker 2: Kansas City. Seems like kind of a huge story. One

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Speaker 1: The media question that I have is, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: parents charged with the Michigan school shooter. I immediately think when

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Speaker 1: these two individuals were black. The chance that they do

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Speaker 1: think that I think Anne addressed this, by the way too,

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Speaker 2: And I find this fascinating that young boys struggle more

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Speaker 2: ed Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Okay, it's President's Day.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many of you get President's Day off.

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Speaker 2: talked about the Lewis and Clark expedition and how much

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a big James Monroe fan. James

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Speaker 1: Monroe doesn't get all the love that he deserves.

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Speaker 2: I think, well, I'm not anti James Monroe. I'm pro Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: So my top three Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson. Little bit old school,

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Speaker 2: I get it. Nobody is on this list prior to

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Speaker 2: what eighteen sixty five for me, but those would be

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Speaker 2: my trio of the best ever American presidents.

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Speaker 1: All right, who's your third? I mean, I just I

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Speaker 1: like to throw Monroe in there just for topic of conversation.

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Speaker 1: He's not a top ten guy for me, but you know,

447
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Speaker 1: he's kind of a badass in his own way. There's

448
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Speaker 1: some really good stuff. James N. Row doesn't really get

449
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Speaker 1: the respect that he deserves. You know, was a personal courage. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: He's He's probably in like the twenty to thirty or

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe fifteen to twenty range for me of presidents.

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Speaker 1: But I just was thinking about him as you're talking

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Speaker 1: about Lisiana. Purchase number three is Calvin Coolidge. Silent. Cal

454
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Speaker 1: just don't mess it up. Let the American people do

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Speaker 1: what they do, don't be a tyrant, don't get us

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Speaker 1: into crazy wars, don't mess things up. I think I

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Speaker 1: think cal if you're looking at the vision of the founders,

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Speaker 1: it's a president who doesn't do too much, doesn't mess

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Speaker 1: things up. Let's prosperity Rain, Let's peace Rain. I think

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Speaker 1: cal Calvin Coolidge should get a lot of love, all right.

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Speaker 2: Should we take a couple of calls here and get

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Speaker 2: some more of our So you got top threes.

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Speaker 1: He's the only president. So for those of you're saying no,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy, he's also the only president who went to

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Speaker 1: Amhers College. So I feel some affinity for him because

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Speaker 1: I I used to party in Coolidge Dorm named for

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Speaker 1: him because he was in AMers College.

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Speaker 2: I will say this, your top three is going to

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Speaker 2: set tugs wagging way more than my top three.

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Speaker 1: In my top.

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Speaker 2: Three, most of you out there, nobody's really going to

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Speaker 2: be like, oh my God, I can't.

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Speaker 1: To me, Thomas Jefferson amazing, talented, founding father, brilliant, all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Once the French Revolution comes along, though, if

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Speaker 1: you read that, Jefferson he was like an MSNBC watcher

476
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Speaker 1: at that point. He had lost it, my friend. He

477
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Speaker 1: was really uh. He didn't get what was going on

478
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Speaker 1: over there in a big way. And he was also

479
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Speaker 1: very nasty to John Adams.

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Speaker 2: He was just what Secretary of State during the during

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Speaker 2: the French Revolution, right, I believe I'm remembering that correctly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But as the president, he was a big fan.

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Speaker 1: Even as the guillotines were wapping down, chopping off heads,

484
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Speaker 1: you know, wasn't good. Wasn't good, folks. I hate to

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Speaker 1: be the one that says it, but I don't love

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Speaker 1: Jefferson the way some of you le I got people, I.

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Speaker 2: Got people fired up. We were talking about best generals.

488
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Speaker 2: Now I've got Washington at two overall is my president.

489
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Speaker 2: But George Washington was a pretty mediocre to bad actual

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Speaker 2: battlefield general.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a good general. If you think of

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Speaker 1: America as an insurgency, he's a bad general if you

493
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Speaker 1: think of wins and losses in combat in the field.

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Speaker 2: In every battle that he basically fought almost for the

495
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Speaker 2: entirety of his political career. But he kept the revolution

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Speaker 2: of the military together. Yes, in a way that I

497
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Speaker 2: think the odds of him being able to do that

498
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Speaker 2: under those circumstances, with the lack of resources they had,

499
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Speaker 2: was near miraculous. So that's the part of it that,

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Speaker 2: as we see with insurgencies, if you can just keep

501
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Speaker 2: it going for better, for worse than a lot of

502
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Speaker 2: places for worse. But if an insurgency can keep going,

503
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Speaker 2: much more powerful militaries can be defeated. And also I

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Speaker 2: would say maybe the most important precedent that Washington set

505
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Speaker 2: was giving up power. Unheard of throughout the annals of

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Speaker 2: history for someone to have the ability, Washington could have

507
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Speaker 2: become a dictator and ruled for the rest of his

508
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Speaker 2: life if he had so desired. Instead, he said no,

509
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Speaker 2: and he went back to Mount Vernon, which is unheard of.

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Speaker 2: John Adams, I think, you know, he started he started

511
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Speaker 2: to think a little bit, a little bit too highly

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Speaker 2: of himself, you know, whereas Washington understood a degree of

513
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Speaker 2: humility even as the father of the nation, so to speak,

514
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Speaker 2: was necessary and and by the way, I would wonder

515
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Speaker 2: on some level buck, whether partly Washington not having sons

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Speaker 2: of his own. Uh, you know, if you want to

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Speaker 2: get into the genealogical aspect. So I'm reading now because

518
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Speaker 2: I'm a nerd all about the British kings and I've

519
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Speaker 2: just always wanted to kind of know that history. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm back at the twelve hundreds right now, So I'm

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Speaker 2: way back.

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Speaker 1: He really wants to bring he really wants to build

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Speaker 1: our UK audience on on podcasts.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the I'm in the twelve hundreds right now

525
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Speaker 2: reading about all the British kings, and uh, the degree

526
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Speaker 2: to which I do wonder psychologically if Washington had had

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Speaker 2: three or four sons, would he have been interested in

528
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Speaker 2: trying to pass that power on down to them? Would

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Speaker 2: his thought process have been different, because I do think

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Speaker 2: he would have ended up and could have been if

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Speaker 1: I'll throw this out there, We're going to take best

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Speaker 1: presidents now in the call. So we'll take the best

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Speaker 1: I was like our one. Wait, no, it's our two.

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Speaker 1: Let's get these calls because we said we want to

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Speaker 1: hear from you. So Clay just a quick, a quick rundown.

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Speaker 1: Clay top three was number one, Lincoln number two, Washington

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Speaker 1: number three, Jefferson, right, So basically Clay is Clay is

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Speaker 1: you know, part of the Mount Rushmore, the historic city

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Speaker 1: this yere. Yes, Yeah, he's you know, you could probably

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Speaker 1: throw Teddy Roosevelt in there. Clay probably loves him too.

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Speaker 1: I'm throwing some curveballs. I go Washington, which I believe

602
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Speaker 1: he is just the goat, greatest of all time. And

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Speaker 1: then you throw in Reagan for me, and then Calvin

604
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Speaker 1: Coolidge because I think that Coolidge anyway, Well, you know why,

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Speaker 1: let's get to your calls. Though a lot of you

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Speaker 1: have robust opinion, I'm excited for the bad presidents. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to that. Catherine in Groton, Connecticut, your three best

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Speaker 1: Catherine on this President's Day?

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Speaker 7: Okay, Well, we got to start with George Washington because

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Speaker 7: he's the prototype and there'd be no presidents that she

611
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Speaker 7: didn't do what he did. Yes, second place, I got

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Speaker 7: a tie JFK and Reagan because of their their potential

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Speaker 7: and their trajectory.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, hold on it, Can I tell you why JFK?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because he would be a Republican today if he,

616
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Speaker 7: you know, was still alive. His positions and his attitudes

617
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Speaker 7: and his policies were very Republican.

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Speaker 1: What what do you think his wins would be?

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Speaker 7: Though?

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Speaker 1: I mean Bay of Pigs, total disaster, left them to

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Speaker 1: die on the beach because he wouldn't give them air cover. Like,

622
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Speaker 1: what what will you think of of a.

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Speaker 7: JFK looking to pull us out of Vietnam? Johnson was

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Speaker 7: looking to to promote Vietnam. He was looking to go

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Speaker 7: after corruptions. Those are two things that the oppositions wouldn't tolerate.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look, opinions are You're totally welcome to your number two.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for Sharon. I was just curious, who's

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Speaker 1: your number three.

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Speaker 7: It's got to be Trump because he's channeling Washington.

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Speaker 1: Trump is channeling Washington. Interesting.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you for the call. I think it

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Speaker 2: would be hard Buck, and again we're going to take

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Speaker 2: some more of your calls here in just sec To me,

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Speaker 2: it's hard to have any body in the best list

635
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Speaker 2: who was not a two term president. I put Calvin

636
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Speaker 2: in there back, but I put Calvin in there because

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Speaker 2: specifically he probably would have won a second term. And

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Speaker 2: he's like, I'm good, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Some people are.

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Speaker 2: Gonna say, wait a minute, Clay, you've got Lincoln as

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Speaker 2: you're two.

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Speaker 1: But he was assassinated.

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Speaker 2: He won the eighteen sixty four presidential election, which allowed

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Speaker 2: him to complete the Civil War.

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Speaker 1: Now, I do think as a history nerd, it is

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Speaker 1: really intriguing to think what would Lincoln's legacy have been

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Speaker 1: if he had been able to serve through a lot

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Speaker 1: of times to second term. Look for look at Georgia W. Bush.

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Speaker 1: Second term is the sequel that should not have been made.

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Speaker 1: It's the truth. Plenty of times that's what ends up happening.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to Mark in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Mark having a great day. Hey, I hope you give

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Speaker 4: me a chance to throw out my three worst because

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Speaker 4: I are well thawed out, but my best. I gotta

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Speaker 4: go with Abraham Lincoln. First. Not only did he keep

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Speaker 4: the country together, it was the not having the hard feelings,

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Speaker 4: trying to the basically keep in the country so there

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Speaker 4: was no ill will between the North and the South.

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Speaker 4: He tried to heal, He tried to heal the country.

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Speaker 4: Then I go with Washington, of course, yeah, he's set

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Speaker 4: the he set the standard. And then I go with

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Speaker 4: Ronald Reagan because he unleashed the best economic time in

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Speaker 4: this country.

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Speaker 1: When all right, Mark, thank you call back in next

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Speaker 1: hour for your worst, because we're doing only best this hour.

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Speaker 1: But we'll take you again. If you call back with

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Speaker 1: for your worst, thank you, I'll say this play. I

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Speaker 1: think Mark's top three, maybe in different order, would probably

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Speaker 1: be for that. That's I think that might be the

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Speaker 1: most common trajectory for Republicans. I think you go Washington

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Reagan would be the most likely for what do

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Speaker 1: you think? You know what I mean? I think I.

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Speaker 2: Find it hard because I'm a history nerd. I find

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Speaker 2: it hard to judge anyone that was in terms of

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Speaker 2: best or worst that was in your current life.

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Speaker 1: Right, does that make sense?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of a challenge. Let's love to speak.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's up, Frank in Glendora, California. Frank, I know you've

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Speaker 1: got Well, you can tell us uh your first two,

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Speaker 1: but then get into why you have a different number

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Speaker 1: three than we've heard.

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Speaker 6: Well, okay, I got Georgia Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Theodore Roosevelt.

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Speaker 1: All right, why Teddy? Why is Teddy on the list?

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Speaker 6: By Theodore? I mean he was the first uh two

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Speaker 6: term president to to uh attack if you want to

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Speaker 6: use that word, to challenge uh the big corporations, the

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Speaker 6: big trusts, control of our company of our country. If

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Speaker 6: it lovely for him, the big you know, trusts and

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Speaker 6: and companies would uh would be controlling our politics.

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Speaker 1: All right, Frank, thank you very much. Teddy Roosevelt progressive

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Speaker 1: interesting can listen here. So now we get to do.

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Speaker 1: First of all, let's do a little bit of the

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Speaker 1: news play coming up here. I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the new positioning for Democrats on immigration, so what they're

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Speaker 1: saying about Biden's next moves and how they're trying to

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Speaker 1: play this politically, the reset for Biden, which we discussed

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Speaker 1: a little bit, do Democrats know they need one? And

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Speaker 1: then we'll have some fun in the back hap with

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Speaker 1: worst presidents. I think I always think that the movie

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Speaker 1: reviews you want to read are the most scathing, the

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Speaker 1: most scathing reviews of presidents that Clay will give, I

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Speaker 1: will give, and then you who call in, we will

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Speaker 1: have fun with that, no doubt, and that, my friends,

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Speaker 1: get cha pop chord is probably going to be very,

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Speaker 1: very enjoyable as we roll through. Thanks for hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us here on this fabulous President's Day, last hour

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Speaker 1: of the holiday.

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Speaker 6: Next