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Speaker 2: Happy Thursday, four Things Amy here, and my friend Megan

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Speaker 2: is joining me today for a chat on all kinds

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Speaker 2: of things. Meghan has come on the podcast before. She

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Speaker 2: is Beauty by Megan Megan Pearson. So if you have

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Speaker 2: been a loyal listener for years, you have heard her before.

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Speaker 2: You maybe even have gone in to see Meghan for

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Speaker 2: microplading on your brows or even your areola because Megan

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Speaker 2: works with breast cancer reconstructed breasts. Yeah, tattooing the areola

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Speaker 2: back on, which we'll get into more of that later

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Speaker 2: in the episode. And Megan, I've got to walk you

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Speaker 2: right now, and we need to come up with a

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Speaker 2: whole I'm using like a new little pin thing, and

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Speaker 2: I got my techniques, but I think you're going to

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Speaker 2: once I get in the right place. So I want

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on that. But before we get into the

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Speaker 2: more vain side of our conversation, you are the reason

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Speaker 2: why I went to get ketamine, So I want to

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Speaker 2: start with your experience, and I guess I should preface

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Speaker 2: the entire conversation with the fact that me and I

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Speaker 2: this for you since it did something amazing for us.

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Speaker 2: That's just not the case. But I'm going to re

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Speaker 2: in simple terms what ketamine is, so we'll start with that.

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Speaker 2: It's a medication that was originally used as an anesthetic

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Speaker 2: in medical and veterinary settings. In recent years, it's been

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Speaker 2: used and controlled low doses as a treatment for conditions

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Speaker 2: like depression anxiety, PTSD, and chronic pain. When administered by

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Speaker 2: it can have rapid positive effects on mood and mental health.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. But Megan, is the reason why

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Speaker 2: I got ketamine therapy. And I think I was in

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Speaker 2: the office one day with your cousin. Yeah, Krista was

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Speaker 2: getting a facial and you're like, Amy, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: you have got to check this out. You need to

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Speaker 2: call Lindy. She has changed my life. This is amazing.

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Speaker 2: So what led you to even exploring ketamine for yourself

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Speaker 3: Like I have experience, you know, anxiety, not so much

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Speaker 3: we'd sit there and talk about like little Meekon and

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Speaker 3: I can show my daughter, my six year old, all

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Speaker 3: myself and I'm like, dude, you're thirty seven, Suck it up,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's all relative to what you've experienced, Like you

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Speaker 3: Yes. I love that way of explaining it because that's

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Speaker 3: when your nervous system is so regulated and like, and

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Speaker 3: some of the things that you go through are hard,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was just crazy stuff, but like all

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Speaker 2: When you were talking about childhood, you it made me

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Speaker 2: It's not your mom, your dad, your spouse, your kids,

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Speaker 2: You have lived a good life if you impress those

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Speaker 2: an eighty year old Yeah? How can you make those

435
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 2: two people.

436
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 3: Completely different people? People that are completely consumed with total

437
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 3: different aspects of life? You know? Oh? I love that. Yeah,

438
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 3: that's a good one to think on too.

439
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,919
Speaker 2: We can pivot now and we'll get into browse, botox

440
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 2: and breast. Your mom had breast cancer. It got you

441
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 2: into a whole thing. And I know your dad had

442
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: cancer as well, so we'll touch on that. But that's

443
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,880
Speaker 2: like me now. I'm trying to figure out my botox

444
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 2: situation or my no botox situation for my eighty year

445
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 2: old self.

446
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure that out.

447
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: And even when I started pilates a few months ago,

448
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 2: I started for eighty year old me because I saw

449
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: this podcast, I say, Saul, because I was watching it

450
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: on YouTube. This person was talking about osteoporosis and women,

451
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: and I think she may have been a surgeon, like

452
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 2: a hip surgeon. She said a lot of people that

453
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: she works with like if they fall in their eighties

454
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: and she's having to perform surgery on them. She said,

455
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 2: pilates is the number one thing she would tell women

456
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: to start now, or some sort of training like that

457
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,479
Speaker 2: that helps get you ready for when you fall when

458
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 2: you're old, so that we don't end up on the

459
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 2: operating table. And I thought, Okay, I'm going to go

460
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 2: to pilates right now, which I'm sure there's other exercises

461
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 2: and workouts you could do. That just happened to be

462
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 2: what she mentioned. And I was already interested in plates

463
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: and that has been something that has felt very good

464
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 2: to me at the moment and just listening to my body.

465
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah need So I'm doing that, doing the pilates right now.

466
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Speaker 1: For eighty year old year old me, she'll be proud.

467
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 3: It's so proud of you.

468
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, eight year old AMI's really probably proud of me.

469
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: But eight year old Amy also got called half brow

470
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: because that's where I well, probably wasn't eight year old me,

471
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 2: but probably teenage me when I started to put on

472
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: my brows, and then I would go swimming and then

473
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 2: I would come out of the water.

474
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: And I remember one time someone was like, oh, hey,

475
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: half brow, and I thought, oh, but.

476
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: That's in my insecurity about my brows first started. And

477
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 2: so then that led to this whole thing of trying

478
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: to figure out my brows. And it's been a whole journey,

479
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 2: and so we'll get into.

480
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,719
Speaker 1: It runs deep our relationship.

481
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 2: Yes, why meeting you has been so helpful for my confidence,

482
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: and so we'll talk about the botox brows and breasts next.

483
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the superficial yes, yeah, surface you things,

484
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: which is that I've stopped the botox and my brows

485
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: are changing. Yeah, which made me think, like, I've been

486
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: coming to you with botox. So why is it that

487
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: as the botox is dissolving in my forehead now my

488
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: brows are changing. And what do you think the solution

489
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: needs to be? Because right now I am drawing them

490
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: on myself and I have a new appreciation for your

491
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: steady hand and how you can even do hair like strokes. Yeah.

492
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: Well it took a lot of practice, I will say that,

493
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: but being a megup artist, you know, for ten years

494
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: of my life, like I've always you know, had a

495
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: more artistic flair, like that's always been my thing. But

496
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 3: I will say it's definitely harder to draw on the brows.

497
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: Everyone always says that that's like something that they don't

498
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: understand how I can do. But I'm glad that ya can't,

499
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: because I wouldn't have a job if everyone could do

500
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: their brows perfect every day.

501
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: So thank youful to have your website.

502
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: When I was just getting your website so I can

503
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: link it in the show notes for people, a review

504
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: popped up from Valerie. Yeah, yeah, you know that is okay,

505
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: she said here, I'm not the most artistic person, so

506
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: feeling in my eyebrows has always been more guesswork than talent.

507
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: That is until I chose Megan for microblading. My eyebrows

508
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: are the perfect color and shape for my face and

509
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: I never have to worry about them again. Megan truly

510
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: works magic. Now that's got to be Oh. I love

511
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 2: good to hear it, and I can attest to that too.

512
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: But even finding the perfect color and shape for someone's

513
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: face and thinking about that and color and how it

514
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 2: can change over time, like if someone gets their brows

515
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: micro bladed. Will use me now as an example because

516
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: my face shape is now changing because the botox is dissolving.

517
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: I want a new game plan with you of what

518
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: you think we should do. And your plan is maybe

519
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: we layer I'm off again and start over.

520
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I heard a girl talking, a girl that I

521
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: followed that does what I do, and she's fantastic, and

522
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: she was talking about how it seems so taboo and

523
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 3: when you talk about lasering your brows off, everyone thinks

524
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: it's because you had a botch job or someone didn't

525
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 3: know what they're doing. That's not always the case. At

526
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: the end of the day, styles change. You know, your

527
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: face changes, you know, the structure of your brows change.

528
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 3: Techniques change. I mean the tools and the pigments that

529
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm using today versus seven years ago are completely different.

530
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 3: You know, they have gotten so much better. So sometimes

531
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, when it comes to migration, aging,

532
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: all of those things, the best option is to go

533
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: and get a quick laser session. You know, they have

534
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: the Piko laser.

535
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: Now.

536
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: I don't know a whole lot of the technology about that.

537
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: That's not my field, but there's so many great technicians

538
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: out there who do the Piko laser. It usually takes

539
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: five minutes to do. It's around two hundred fifty dollars

540
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: and one session usually completely that's the brows off and

541
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 3: that's usually all you need. And the girl that I

542
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 3: a referencing, she put it in terms like this, and

543
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: it really resonated with me because I've had filler done

544
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: in my lips and I've had it dissolved before. So

545
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: when you think about filler you're putting in your lips,

546
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: eventually it's going to start migrating out. So the normal

547
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 3: thing an injector is going to do is tell you

548
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 3: we need to dissolve it and restart, like that's a

549
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: very normal thing to do, and no one blinks an eye.

550
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: It's not a bad thing to do. You just dissolve it,

551
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 3: redo it so browse. We're kind of trying to change

552
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: the narrative like that is sometimes what needs to happen

553
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: with your brows as well. As the color migrates as

554
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 3: you age, sometimes it can look a little blurry and

555
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: washed out after four years on certain skin types, so

556
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 3: removal might just be the best option for you.

557
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: Okay, So I think that's what I'm going to have

558
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: to do, I'm going to book my appointment, which if

559
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: people are local. The Pico laser is that Franklin.

560
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: Yes, Franklin's skin and laser. They're They're fantastic. I can't

561
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 3: tell you how many people I've sent to them. They

562
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: do one little zapp on most people's brows, and that's

563
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 3: plenty for me to go back in and completely redo them.

564
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: It's not pain free, but it's very quick, which is lovely,

565
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: and it's not bad price point.

566
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: Well, as I'm just getting my new baseline of what

567
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: my face is looking like as the botox dissolves, which

568
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: I think I'm on month four, and when I was

569
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: looking it up, it said, depending on how your body

570
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: metabolizes the bowtox, it can take anywhere from three to

571
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: six months to get it out. I'm not anti it,

572
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Am I going to get it

573
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: conservatively again and just make sure I don't go over

574
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: a certain amount of units because I don't want to

575
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: have the muscle atrophy take place, which is the reason

576
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: why I halted it. As I'm aging it's I'm almost

577
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: forty four or forty four year old me looking out

578
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 2: for sixty year old me because I think in the

579
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: moment right now, it's easy to be like, oh yeah,

580
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: I'll just get it here here and here and here,

581
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: but not thinking about how my skin is going to

582
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: be down the line because I maybe over talxed. So

583
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: I know this is very vain, but I think brows

584
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 2: are an important part of the face, at least for me.

585
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: I know when I wash my face and my brows

586
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: come off, I instantly look different. I have the ones

587
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: that you microbladeed in, but right now, because of the

588
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: the botox leaving, my brows are spreading apart in the middle,

589
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: so I'm having to draw them in. Now, when you're

590
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: doing the brows on our face, are you doing the

591
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: measurements that I'm seeing online? I never know because I'm

592
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: laying on your table and my eyes are closed.

593
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: But do you have like a ruler.

594
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: And is there guidelines you go by or do you

595
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: just listen to what the client wants?

596
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: No, so I would love to listen to what the

597
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: client wants, But a lot of times clients will show

598
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: me a picture tell me what they want. I'm like,

599
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: I would love that too, But that's not my structure,

600
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: that's not my muscles. You know, people don't think about

601
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: your brow muscles or what's actually going to change, you know,

602
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: where they lift. So I might add as much detail

603
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: and as much you know lift as possible as I

604
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: can get them. But if your brows are completely flat,

605
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 3: there's only so much I can do. And I am

606
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: not the artist that's going to go in there and

607
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: you know, shave off a brow and put it back

608
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: on where you think you want it. Artists actually do that,

609
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: you know, or they'll they'll shave off half the brow

610
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: and completely like put one brow, you know, your brow

611
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: where it technically should be, you know, like having the

612
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: perfect you know ratio like Kardashian brow or something. But

613
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: that's just not everyone's face structure.

614
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, So does someone just continue to shave their brows?

615
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

616
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: Over like if if the artist does that, yeah, then

617
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: they have to just continue shaving their brows the hair grows.

618
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, otherwise you'll have a gnarly thick brow, or

619
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: you might have two tails. I've seen that a lot

620
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: where people have come in and an artist has put

621
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 3: a tail completely where their tail is not, and so

622
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: they'll literally have two tails at the end of their brow.

623
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: I am not the artist that's going to do that

624
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: to people. I think about what it's going to look

625
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: like today as well as what it's going to look

626
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: like in a year from now, you know, when you

627
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: have aged, and you know, trends do change. But I

628
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: very much draw it on your own face. Like I

629
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: don't use stensiles or rulers or anything like that. I

630
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: do take a couple of markings just as far as

631
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: like you know, I can't show you, but you really

632
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: don't want the end the brow the tail to go,

633
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: you know, much further than the corner of your eye,

634
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: so you kind of go corner of the nose, corner

635
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: of the eye to the corner of the brow. If

636
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: you start getting below that, that's what's going to drop

637
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: your brow, you know, make you look not lifted, you know,

638
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: age you a little bit.

639
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: That's why I have my my NYX my new brow

640
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: pencil that I ordered called Lift.

641
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 1: And Snatch, so you're lifted and Snatch.

642
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: Everyone wants my drugs Lift and Snatch, So I you know,

643
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm a little shaky when I'm doing it though, and

644
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: it's definitely taking up a huge chunk of my getting

645
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: ready time.

646
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm pretty pumped to go get lasered yeah,

647
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: and then.

648
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: Come back in and get an appointment with you so

649
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: that I can get that time back because I have

650
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: to get ready pretty early in the morning and I

651
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: need to be on for work like makeup. Wise, I

652
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: can't just roll into the office.

653
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can't your brow throughout the day and

654
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: then like you literally have like no tail or something

655
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: if it's just drawn on. So that's why. Yeah, microplaning,

656
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: it just it really, you know, not to be dramatic,

657
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: but it does change your life, you know. And I

658
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: don't I think it's just vain. I think it's something

659
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: that you know, I think we've talked about that before,

660
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: like when you look good, when you feel good, like

661
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna do better in life, you know. That's why, Like,

662
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: as cheesy as it is, I started wearing like all

663
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: my Friely dresses because for the longest time, I'd wear

664
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: like jeans and tea and I was like, you know what,

665
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: like I feel beautiful in like dresses, so you know what,

666
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: like I don't care if I'm going to the grocery store,

667
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna wear the dang dress, you know, And

668
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: it's you just feel better. So I don't think any

669
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: of that stuff is vain. I think it's really important.

670
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: Okay, good, well, I just want to clarify because sometimes

671
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: I feel like, oh, this is silly stuff. I was

672
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: having a conversation with a friend the other day who

673
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: someone in their life has cancer, and they were like,

674
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: what so much is just so insignificant to me right now?

675
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: And this has really put life into perspective. And I

676
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: know you can relate to that as well. And you

677
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: work with cancer patients all the time with your talent,

678
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: and you know, you walk through cancer with your mother,

679
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: so you know that at times it's like, Okay, none

680
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: of this stuff really matters, but also it's okay, two

681
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: things can be true at the same time. Does it

682
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: really matter, not totally, but does it also help me

683
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: in life and make me more confident and save me time? Yeah? Yes, yes,

684
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: So two things can be true, yeah, at the same time.

685
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: And I think it's when you start to prioritize it

686
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: over other things. Oh you're gonna, yeah, not realize what's

687
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: really important, or you let it ruin your day, Like

688
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: if you have a bad brow day and you like

689
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: are just like.

690
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: Oh, it ruined my whole you know, like okay, come on,

691
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: you know we all have bad days or you wear something,

692
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: you know, whatever. But yeah, well I like that.

693
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: You mentioned that too about the clothes, because that can

694
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: really impact your mood, your overall mental health. Like how

695
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: you show up. It's like dopamine dressing. Yea, Like when

696
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: you get dressed and you know, you feel confident and

697
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: it's your go to outfit, your go to color, or

698
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: your type of outfit, whatever that is for you. For you,

699
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: it's dresses. You just said that. For someone else, it

700
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: might be a cute sweat set. Yes, oh, I know

701
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: you love sweatpants too.

702
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: I love my sweatpants.

703
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: But whatever gives you that confidence to walk out. And

704
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: this is what I feel best, And this is the

705
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: color that I love. Who cares if it's on trend

706
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: or what anybody else is doing. This is what helps

707
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: me feel good. It's your dopamine dressing.

708
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. I've never even heard of it

709
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: as dopamine dressing, but I'm gonna think of that. I

710
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: even do it at home too. Like this sounds so cheesy,

711
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: but a couple months ago I saw these like silk

712
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: pajamas from Target and I got them in every color now,

713
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: and like I walk around my house, like with no

714
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: one there except for my six year old, feeling like

715
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: a princess in my like fluffy slippers and my silk pajamas,

716
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: and I like wake up feeling like I'm in this

717
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: fairy tale and stuff, and I'm like, it's all because

718
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: of my you know, I'm doing dishes and I'm like, oh,

719
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: I'm just I mean my silk pajamas. So I'm happy,

720
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: you know. So it's yeah, it matters.

721
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a way that you're bringing yourself that confidence

722
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: even at home, or you feeling your best and even

723
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: that whimsy. Cat and I were talking about this the

724
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: other day. Someone had posted like how do you bring

725
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: the whimsy into your life and the whimsical moments? And

726
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: you were talking about doing dishes like that. And one

727
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: of the things that someone shared was when I'm doing

728
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: my dishes, I talk to the dishes like, hey, are.

729
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: You ready for bath time?

730
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: And it's just bringing in playfulness and feeling fun and

731
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: even confident in your own home. And that's you with

732
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: your silk or satin or whatever pajamas from Target, which

733
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: now I need to know which ones these are because

734
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: I want to get on the link.

735
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: They're so soft, They're so cute, and I do, and

736
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: like I light my candle at night, you know, before

737
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: I get my shower, and I put on my like

738
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: you know, Seer McGlaughlin playlist or whatever, you know, kind

739
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: of cheesy stuff and like I just, yeah, I shower,

740
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: It's like just my little me time and my happiness

741
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: and yeah, put on my soft, silky stuff and yeah,

742
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: just makes you happy. Now I can do that with

743
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: my brows fully intact if I would take a shower

744
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 3: or bath once I get my new session with you.

745
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: But I guess I have some steps to take before that.

746
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: First I want the boatox to fully dissolve. Yes, Then

747
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: I need to go get the Pico laser. Then I'm

748
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: going to book an appointment. And then as I age

749
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: too it and trends change is just different. So yeah,

750
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: when I first started seeing you years ago, it makes

751
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: sense that we might need to alter it and change.

752
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: How much makeup style change if you look at like

753
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: celebrities on the red carpet, like even when I did makeup,

754
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: you know, I look at my first like red carpets

755
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: with my girls, like you know, Kelsey and stuff, and

756
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, like it has changed drastically.

757
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, permanent makeup. It's permanent, you know, essentially,

758
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: but you can still get it lasered off. You can

759
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: still make changes, you know. And I found two over

760
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: the past, you know, a couple of years that my

761
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: style has changed so much with like openness and airiness.

762
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: I think we're seeing a lot of like oversaturated brows,

763
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: and partly because you know, it might be the artist,

764
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: but partly because I'll have clients that literally want to

765
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: come to me every year they're like, oh, I see

766
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: a spot, it's time to get microplating. Ope, I see

767
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 3: a spot and that's just not really okay. That that

768
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: was me I would do that. I feel like I

769
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: see a spot and now I.

770
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: Think I've altered that too. So what do you mean

771
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: by open and airiness? Because I think I know because

772
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: I feel like that's where I'm headed with it. But

773
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: I want to know what you're seeing with it.

774
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: So if you think about, okay, the reason that microblading

775
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: and these you know, strokes look real is because they

776
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: look like hair strokes. They have negative space in between them,

777
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 3: so that openness, that airiness. If you were to put

778
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: a stroke stroke, stroke right beside each other, right on

779
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: top of each other, like it's gonna look like a railroad,

780
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: or it's just gonna look like a blob. Like it's

781
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: not even gonna look like strokes anymore. So I like

782
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: to leave a little bit of open space between them.

783
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: I like for them to be a little more you know,

784
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: staggered and not so uniform. You know. I tell everyone,

785
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: it looks fantastic for days that you are going to

786
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: the gym or people who are you know, if you're

787
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 3: at the beach or a pool and you're not wearing makeup,

788
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: it looks great. It doesn't look oversaturated or overdone. But

789
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: then at the end of the day, if you are

790
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: wearing makeup, like if you are going and do something,

791
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: it takes two seconds to put powder in it because

792
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: you already have this great guideline. So it's like you

793
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: can have you can have both. You know, you can

794
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: have like really natural you know browse, or you can

795
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: have more you know, made up kind of glam brows.

796
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: But if you if you do the oversaturation and the

797
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 3: glanm browse, you know, you tattoo that on every day,

798
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: Like that is what you're stuck with, you know, twenty

799
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: four to seven. So yeah, so I like to leave

800
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: them just open and airy.

801
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I think I'm excited about my brow rebrand.

802
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: Oh I too, honestly, are really exactly I'm glad we

803
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: talked about this to coming up.

804
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: I'll keep it all posted on the process.

805
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: But I know so many people that have listened have

806
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: come to you for brows or even their breast So

807
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: I want you to touch on the passion side of

808
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: your work. I know you're passionate about both, but being

809
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 2: able to give women confidence back if they have lost

810
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: their breasts because of breast cancer. Just share a little

811
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: bit of that, just in case there's one person that

812
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: needs to know your info, your number, or they have

813
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: a BFF or a sister that needs to be calling

814
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: you to be able to get that confidence back.

815
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, oh I love it. That is where my

816
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: heart is. I love brows. I love it. But I'd

817
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: always seen the areolas and been like, oh, I'm going

818
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: to do that one day. You know, you just put

819
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: it in your back pocket and you think about it.

820
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: But I'm busy doing all my other things. You know,

821
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: that was the last thing that I thought I had

822
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: time for at the moment. My dad he did pass

823
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: away from colon cancer also, so I've had you know,

824
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: my dad and my mom both affected with cancer, and

825
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 3: it's just I know you.

826
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: Have well in March is colon cancer awareness. Oh yeah,

827
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 2: so we're coming up on that, and I think I'm

828
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: glad you mentioned that because if you see any symptoms,

829
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: book and appointment, because early detection is everything with.

830
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: Colon cancer, and that that was what happened. Unfortunately with

831
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: my dad, he found out it was you know, stage four,

832
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: and he's that you know, he's never went to the doctor,

833
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: never complained, you know, just little workhorse, just did his

834
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 3: own thing, and so he had little things that he saw,

835
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: but he just never never did it, never got colon

836
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 3: oscby's any of that stuff. And unfortunately he found out, Yeah,

837
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: we found out around New Year's one year and then

838
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: it was stage four and by the next April he

839
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: had passed. So he had two chemos and unfortunately his

840
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 3: body just was you know, too far gone.

841
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: I feel like you sharing that now and then with

842
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 2: March being right around the corner, people are and start

843
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: seeing more, which is great, but awareness is everything. So

844
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: in March, I hope that people are just inundated with

845
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 2: facts and information because your dad, being an older man,

846
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: that's who people used to think would just get it.

847
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: It was just older men, But it is happening to

848
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: younger and younger and younger people and women too. So

849
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: I think I saw a stat that's like one in

850
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: twenty four people are going to be diagnosed with call

851
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: and cancer. So that's just one of those things that

852
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: if you can catch it early, if you have any

853
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: of the symptoms, and maybe you're even being told it

854
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: could be something else, like oh, maybe it's a hemorrhoid,

855
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: or just get a second opinion or listen to your

856
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 2: gut and make sure that you advocate for yourself, because

857
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: this is one of those cancers that, yeah, if you

858
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: catch it early, your survival rate is very high. If

859
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: you don't, or if you ignore something or you go

860
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: too long, then that's when it gets deadly, which you

861
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: unfortunately had to walk through with your dad. So you

862
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: went through that with him, and then you're mom had

863
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: breast kines.

864
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: Fast forward at three years later. Yeah, my mom was

865
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: diagnosed with stage through breast cancer and she felt a lump,

866
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: you know, as she she checked herself and felt it

867
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: one day, and my mom's a nurse, and yeah, it

868
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: was crazy. My daughter was one and you know, had

869
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: my business and then my mom ended up coming and

870
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: living with me. So I kind of was responsible for

871
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: making sure that she had you know, had her little

872
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: friends on a chat list and would make sure someone

873
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: would come check on her and do all the things.

874
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: And you know, we got her all of her appointments.

875
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 3: But just personally seeing what someone goes through, I mean,

876
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: it's awful. It's it's brutal, and you always think that,

877
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: you know, you see people go through it, or you

878
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 3: hear people go through it, you know, through the grapevine,

879
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: but when it's actually your life, like seeing my mom.

880
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: And my mom is strong. You know, she had six kids.

881
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: She she did all the right things. My mom never

882
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 3: never drank, never smoked, you know, breastfed us, all all

883
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: the things that you know supposedly you know, you're right,

884
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: your odds of getting cancer less. But yeah, she she

885
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: got it, and uh, it was pretty brutal. But yeah,

886
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: seeing her come out on the other side was amazing

887
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: and I'll never forget. You know, she had kind of

888
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 3: would tell me that she she felt like Frankenstein. And

889
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: I helped her out with everything except for like the

890
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: like the drains and the stitches and that kind of part.

891
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: I get really woozy with with that kind of stuff,

892
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: So I couldn't do much of that. So I hadn't

893
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: really seen her yet. And then one day my daughter

894
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 3: had run into the bathroom when she got out of

895
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: the shower, and it was the first time that I

896
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: had seen her, you know, without her breast and you know,

897
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: with her stitches out and stuff, and you know, it

898
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: was it was hard, you know, that wasn't even my body.

899
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: And I mean I had to go upstairs and cry

900
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 3: just because I remember, like, you know, it's hard seeing

901
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: someone you think so strong, you know, look like that.

902
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: So I can't imagine what's going through her brain, you know,

903
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: looking and seeing herself like that every single day. And

904
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 3: so yeah, after that, I start I went, I started

905
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: researching all the trainings, and I was like, you know

906
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: what this is it, you know, it is time, like

907
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: mom is on the other side of her journey, Like

908
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: I am ready to go and find training and get certified.

909
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: And it was like, you know totally, you know, God

910
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: or univer whatever you believe in. A training was going

911
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 3: on that next month in Nashville. You know, which there

912
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of trainings around, so this, uh, this

913
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: girl from Texas was coming and training people, and so

914
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: I went and got trained and it's just been a

915
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 3: ongoing thing and it just I feel like it's one

916
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: of those things that brows. They make me feel so happy,

917
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: and you know, I feel fulfilled. I love my job,

918
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: like I love doing all aspects of my job, but

919
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: when I get to do Areolas, it truly it makes

920
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: me feel like I am, you know, impacting the world

921
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: in such a positive way, and like, you know, I'm

922
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: helping fight for my mom and my dad and you know,

923
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: all those things. We usually cry they see there. You know,

924
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: I've got a big mirror and they stand up and

925
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: look in the mirror when we're done, and they start crying.

926
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 3: And then I'm a baby, and I can't see people

927
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: cry without crying, so I start crying. I'm surprised I

928
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: haven't cried yet, honestly talking about all this, but and

929
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: uh yeah, so it just it's it's amazing.

930
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: It feels good.

931
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: It feels good to restore. It is good to be

932
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: on the happy part of people's journeys, you know, because

933
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: it's it is a journey, and so when I can

934
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: be a part of them feeling more complete and more themselves,

935
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: then I I'm just I'm lucky that I get to

936
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: do it.

937
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 2: I like that we're complete.

938
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

939
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, being a part of that, well, I feel like

940
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: we could talk and talk and talk and talk. And

941
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: we've talked about a lot of different things, from ar

942
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: ketamine to the brows and then your personal experience with

943
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: cancer and how that shifted what you even do professionally.

944
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: And I know we tease that we may talk about lips,

945
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: which we didn't get into. So why don't you just

946
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: share quickly what that is that you do and then

947
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: where people can find you?

948
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, So lip blushing is amazing. I used

949
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: to kind of think that, you know, a lot of

950
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 3: my like older clients, I mean, and I mean by older,

951
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean like seveny enough. You know clients would come

952
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: in and uh want lipstick tattooed on. But that is

953
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: not what it is at all. As we age the

954
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: border around your lips, it kind of just starts to dissipate.

955
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: You look washed out. Some people feel like they their

956
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: lips are the same color as their skin, and they'll

957
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: go and get filler great, not knocking filler. Filler is fantastic.

958
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: But you can plump your lips up until the cows

959
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: come home. But if you don't have any color on them,

960
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: you don't see your lips, you know. So a lot

961
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: of people won't like their lips even with filler unless

962
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: they have lips to go on. So what I do

963
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: is I go and, like very naturally and gently tattoo

964
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: lip color on your lips. And so I do the

965
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 3: whole thing. I do the outline as well as the inside.

966
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 3: I don't just do line or anything. And everything I do,

967
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: I want it to be as natural and beautiful as

968
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 3: I can, like truly that Like, oh I just happen

969
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: to wake up with perfect lips and eyebrows, you know,

970
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: That's that's my goal. So yeah, I just tattoo it

971
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: in a nice natural color. People can bring in colors

972
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: that they really love if you wear every day. I

973
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: usually like to stick with like a you know, pinky

974
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 3: or you know, maybe add moth or some wine or

975
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 3: berry to it, you know, kind of change up the

976
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: color that way. But I like it to just be

977
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: soft and natural, and it really just enhances your lips

978
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: and gives them that pop and you know the same

979
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: thing like with the brows, It's like if you're at

980
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: the gym or the beach, you just happen to have

981
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: really beautiful natural you know, like like little girls or

982
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 3: something who have just like that perfect like lipcolor, Like

983
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: that is what we're going for, just like perfect lips

984
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 3: that you just naturally happen to have and and browse.

985
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: So lip blushing is fantastic on its own, and then

986
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: with filler it is one hundred percent like peanut butter

987
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: and jelly, like you absolutely need them both. I love it.

988
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: Where can people find you in case they're curious about

989
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: the brows, the blushing or the areola.

990
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so my website is www www.

991
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: Are we aging Ourselves? I still do that sometimes too.

992
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 1: I'd love to talk to you.

993
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: You can find me on MySpace. But sorry, your top

994
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: ten Sorry beauty by Megan m E E g e

995
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 3: N dot com. Please don't take that out because it does.

996
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: I'm almost forty, so it's I never really read it

997
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: in it was awesome.

998
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: I loved watching you at w w W, so.

999
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, beauty, bye Megan dot com. And then your Instagram

1000
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: is the same thing, except for there's periods like Beauty.

1001
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: Dot by Dot Megan.

1002
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 3: Yes, I hate the period, but there's another Beauty by

1003
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 3: Megan out there and with the same the E E

1004
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: G E G e yeah, E e G E in yeah.

1005
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: And a lot of times people there they'll hear me

1006
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: and they'll still type in M E E G A N.

1007
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: So just M E E G E in. So you

1008
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: can find me on my Instagram or my website and

1009
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: space or my space. Yeah, of course she's available.

1010
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for coming by.

1011
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: It's always good to see you, and I will be

1012
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: booking my appointments in the next few months or so.

1013
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: We'll see I