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Speaker 2: Pilos Sure live on a cutdown Tuesday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Brown's Daily. I am merely bo he is the great z.

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Speaker 2: How you living?

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Speaker 3: You're good?

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Speaker 4: You're good?

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Speaker 5: Nope, been good.

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Speaker 4: Now I hit it twice.

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Speaker 2: It felt like it was. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's so hard, so helpful. By the way, we haven't

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Speaker 4: gotten right, we haven't got a chance. Cuts too much.

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Speaker 4: We've been going to business, real business, real business. I

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Speaker 4: want the people to know that the very top of

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Speaker 4: the food chain is getting us.

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Speaker 3: The light is It's happened.

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Speaker 2: It's happening.

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Speaker 3: It's happening.

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Speaker 2: A long lost, long lasted is happening. He's thrilled.

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Speaker 4: He's great, of course, buried under an avalanche effects. That's

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Speaker 4: using that be's bearing people under an avalanche of a

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Speaker 4: variety of things lately. Yes, yeah, he really enjoyed that one.

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Speaker 4: So that was that made me happy. All right, So

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Speaker 4: here we are wait, hold on yep. Sorry, I just

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Speaker 4: like to say this.

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Speaker 2: Because the ball will not spike itself. As we were

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Speaker 2: once told by a great, a great human who is

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Speaker 2: on the show with us on a regular basis, the

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Speaker 2: ball will not spike itself. Gentlemen, if you listen to

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Speaker 2: this program yesterday, I believe we had it.

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Speaker 4: The breakdown.

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Speaker 2: And when I say we, I mean you.

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Speaker 4: You went through it.

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Speaker 2: It was it's gonna end up being pretty much exactly

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Speaker 2: as you lay out we were doing twenty three, twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: We went through the various We did it before we

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Speaker 2: knew reportedly what was going to happen with KDE York,

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Speaker 2: and then after.

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Speaker 3: That surprised me.

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Speaker 2: That did that surprised a lot of people. You can back, Yeah, fine, safe, safe, pal.

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Speaker 2: You're still getting a gold jacket at that, thank you.

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Speaker 2: But as are all of these reports swirling and this

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Speaker 2: it's tricky from us from the standpoint of like some

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Speaker 2: of this stuff is been released by us, but great,

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Speaker 2: a great many of this is is not is rather

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Speaker 2: just reported. So you have until four o'clocks, You've got

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Speaker 2: three hours, but you pretty much nailed the way this

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Speaker 4: So I just wanted to so here's let me go

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Speaker 4: on what's been reported and what we know and how

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Speaker 4: that jives up. So yesterday, offense, we had one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent drived up completely, two quarterbacks, the three running backs,

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Speaker 4: six receivers with David Bell and being the six. We

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Speaker 4: going into it yesterday for you, yep. Defensively, what we

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Speaker 3: So there's one spot that's open.

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Speaker 4: Here's where we don't know who is going to be

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Speaker 4: And if somebody, if something's come out while we're talking,

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Speaker 4: right now, the places that it could happen the places

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Speaker 4: So the three veterans or the two veterans defensively, that

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Speaker 4: got the five safeties. We've gone over that Thornhill, Grant, Delpit,

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Speaker 4: So you've got twenty three on the on the offense,

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Speaker 3: But that would surprise me.

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Speaker 4: So of those two because then you're gonna have Outry

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Speaker 4: It's all basically settled. We can talk about some of

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Speaker 4: the people who will you know, who are not on

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Speaker 3: Who they who? I think they want back on the

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Speaker 4: But you know, there was a lot made about not

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Speaker 4: Winfrey was released earlier this year. Yep, so, and it's unfortunate,

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Speaker 4: but it's also an acknowledgment of Okay, maybe we didn't

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Speaker 4: you wonder Harris and Bryant with his health condition, could

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Speaker 3: There were some good corners.

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Speaker 4: they be in jeopardy somewhere else? But I think for

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Speaker 4: the most part, you're you're looking pretty good here in

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Speaker 4: don't expect the Browns to be super active, but there

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Speaker 4: could be a couple of changes.

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Speaker 2: As always, here's what you know about this regime and

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Speaker 2: this ownership. If there is opportunity out there, they will

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Speaker 2: be quick to strike. Yes, so if somebody comes across

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Speaker 2: still seems to me like the most logical. But you

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Speaker 2: me if you poke around and would be interested in that,

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Speaker 2: because that's what Andrew Berry and Paul Dee Podesta and

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Speaker 2: the ownership here has proven that if opportunity presents, they

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Speaker 2: much gets made of this initial fifty three. You did

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Speaker 2: a good job outlining it there, but the initial fifty

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Speaker 2: three is not the fifty three. It will be different.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the two injury designations that we will have there.

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Speaker 2: There could be other things that happen here. So like

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Speaker 2: not necessarily what it'll be next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you'll have today, waivers will then happen tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Practice squads will be set up tomorrow as well, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know what, Like Brown's therapy just said, tell

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Speaker 4: Gibbe to stop eating at work, And I can't even

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Speaker 4: imagine what is on that? What camera would that be at.

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Speaker 3: Eating? Were you eating recently, Gibbe?

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Speaker 2: He was having a snack. Oh my god, it's great.

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Speaker 3: I walked by every day and just kind of there

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Speaker 6: I walk by it every day, like behind these two

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Speaker 6: fine gentlemen here, and I usually make some kind of

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Speaker 6: I got you, like some kind of motion, and I

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Speaker 6: was throwing my plate out.

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Speaker 3: I was not eating.

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Speaker 2: He's got you looks like spooning some porridge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like this is what he's doing. Your working.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very very good.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's go through some of these reported

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Speaker 2: cuts and then work their ways back in. The Other

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Speaker 2: thing I would say, too, is you know like a

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Speaker 2: lot has been made of Austin Watkins. Yes, okay, look,

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Speaker 2: I mean he flashed, but at the same time, when

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Speaker 2: he flashed, it's I think it's hard sometimes when people

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Speaker 2: part of a bigger picture that you're trying to use

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Speaker 2: to determine the very very bottom end of the roster. YEP,

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Speaker 2: that's really what it is. So he is somebody who flashed.

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Speaker 2: He could find his way back here. He's on the

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Speaker 4: It would make sense, and I'd be happy for him

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Speaker 4: if he did not and was to get claimed somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: For the Browns, you know you had.

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Speaker 4: Here are the names that you've known, and certainly Austin

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Speaker 4: Watkins jumped out to Metric Felton. I'm sure the Browns

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Speaker 2: Like the deadline's four o'clock now will be they'll be,

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Speaker 4: By the way, the compensation Andrew Berry a trendsetter. Apparently

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Speaker 4: My guess is maybe Trevor Simion comes back.

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Speaker 4: My guess is that, yes, Joe Burrow will be ready

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Speaker 3: I think we thought that all along.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a great question. I've heard nothing to lead

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be the market now, he's going

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Speaker 4: And we have a.

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Speaker 2: Report on Maurice Hurst as well, I believe did we

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Speaker 4: As we told you, the pressure point for this roster,

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Speaker 2: say this ridiculed this bug bite that I have. My

440
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Speaker 2: brain's going haywire right now.

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Speaker 4: You had me confused because there was a good stretch

442
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Speaker 4: when we went to the Greenbrier and that like I

443
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Speaker 4: had no idea what day it was, what day it was? Yeah,

444
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Speaker 4: but now I.

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Speaker 3: Felt pretty confident.

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Speaker 4: Today was Today's Tuesday, Tuesday, Today's a Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I had this for the audience. I got, bless you, God,

448
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Speaker 2: bless you. I'm a football practice last night and I

449
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Speaker 2: get this. There's this bite on my knee.

450
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been ravaged.

451
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Speaker 2: And I've been ravaged, and I whacked it and there

452
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 2: was some blood, so I thought, oh, mosquito something. But

453
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Speaker 2: then I did notice as I hit it, it felt

454
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Speaker 2: heavier than a mosquito, you know, like it was a

455
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Speaker 2: little bit girthier.

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Speaker 4: So I it.

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Speaker 2: It flew to the ground and I thought nothing of it,

458
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Speaker 2: and it kind of itched throughout the evening, but nothing,

459
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Speaker 2: nothing that I couldn't handle. And then this morning a

460
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Speaker 2: pretty decent amount of pain.

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Speaker 4: In the knee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks and it doesn't look No, I've got swelling,

463
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Speaker 2: some sort of My wife had some sort of at

464
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Speaker 2: home treatment that that she tried, and then we've we've

465
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Speaker 2: got some sort of topical thing. I mean, Nana might

466
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Speaker 2: have an answer for me.

467
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Speaker 4: Guys are tough because when there's venom involved that just

468
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Speaker 4: needs to run its course.

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Speaker 3: You're fine?

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Speaker 2: Is that the Are you sure?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're fine.

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Speaker 4: I feel kind of dizzy. Now you're good. You look great.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it's a it's a great I

474
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Speaker 2: got to tell you. As as quarters, zips and orange

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Speaker 2: come this one in the Congo Rue.

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Speaker 4: Are the top one hundred teacher in the Mike Dickson,

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Speaker 4: you're not teaching pro of CB.

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Speaker 2: You're not just going to anoint someone the official teaching

479
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Speaker 2: pro of CBD without that type of resume correct, let

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Speaker 2: alone Brown's fandom, it just it's just not gonna happen.

481
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Speaker 2: A couple other minor things going on around the league.

482
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Speaker 2: Big news in the state from a football perspective, Ryan

483
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Speaker 2: Day at noon today announced the junior quarterback Kyle McCord

484
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Speaker 2: will be the starting quarterback this week for the Buckeyes

485
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Speaker 2: against Indiana. He held off sophomore quarterback Devin Brown, although

486
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Speaker 2: Brown will play as well in this game.

487
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Speaker 3: What do you got when you have two quarterbacks, you

488
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Speaker 3: don't have any.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's yeah, my my, uh my. So down there,

490
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: which is usually pretty good, tells me that neither one

491
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: has been really lights out. They've had some moments, but

492
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: there had neither one has been lights out now both

493
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Speaker 2: these guys, like everybody the recruit down there.

494
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Speaker 3: McCord is a five star.

495
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Speaker 2: Brown was a four star who elevated to a five

496
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Speaker 2: star really late in the process. We just have never

497
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Speaker 2: seen Devin Brown play, right. You know, Kyle's played a little.

498
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Speaker 2: He started two years ago against Akron, but like we

499
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Speaker 2: haven't really seen him run the functional offense. We've never

500
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Speaker 2: seen Devin Brown do anything, So you know, that's that's

501
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Speaker 2: it's probably at that position. It's probably as nervy as

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Speaker 2: the Buckeyes have been since probably like the twenty eleven season. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 2: when Pryor was kicked off and they went with Joe

504
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Speaker 2: Boserman and a freshman Braxton Miller. It's probably the most

505
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Speaker 2: nervy they've been at the position. Both these guys are

506
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Speaker 2: really talented. It's just that they're gonna play three top

507
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Speaker 2: ten teams this year with Notre Dame, Penn State in Michigan.

508
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Speaker 2: So this doesn't surprise me that McCord won the job.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's tight, go ahead, what do you have?

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Speaker 4: It is kind of incredible. All the kicker trads. Did

511
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Speaker 4: you talk about the Broncos one? Did you hit that

512
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Speaker 4: or did you hop down to ohiose State?

513
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Speaker 2: I skipped the will LUTs deal.

514
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Will's will Lut's. Yeah, reunited with Sean Payton. So

515
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 4: they cut McManus like, there's a lot of kickers now.

516
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Speaker 4: Will Lut's was not good last year, and neither was

517
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Speaker 4: Randon Mcanonuts. They were both in the seventy percent range.

518
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Speaker 4: But just wild, this is you've never seen this before. Yeah,

519
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 4: it's never happened, and then there you got ab setting

520
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Speaker 4: trends out there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I so who are we talking about. You're talking

522
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Speaker 2: about New England, US, Denver, Tennessee, Tennessee. Can you tell

523
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Speaker 2: me what conference all of.

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Speaker 3: Those are in AFC?

525
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Speaker 2: Can you tell me what we always say about that conference?

526
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: Very tight, very competitive, razor thin, baby thin. So you

527
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Speaker 2: gotta have somebody that you feel like, so you can't

528
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: all of these teams Denver, US Tennessee. I mean you

529
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Speaker 2: may laugh at Tennessee, but they think they can win

530
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Speaker 2: the South. Of course, they've done it.

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Speaker 4: It came down last year to the final game and

532
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Speaker 4: they didn't have their quarterback.

533
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Speaker 3: They played our former quarterback, Josh Doubts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So like you're trying to get to the postseason, you're

536
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Speaker 2: trying to be one of the seven, and everything that

537
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Speaker 2: you can do to not have it come down to

538
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Speaker 2: a kick, you're going to do. Yes. And that's the

539
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: reality of that situation. So I think that's why this

540
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Speaker 2: is happening because there's no margin. It's everybody's good. There's

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Speaker 2: a dozen teams in the AFC that think they are

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Speaker 2: playoff teams. There's probably eight that think they can go

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Speaker 2: win the super Bowl. So that's just the reality of

544
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Speaker 2: that situation is there's no margin.

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Speaker 4: You can't have it.

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins agreed to rework the twenty twenty three deal

563
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: of Cedric Wilson and for seven hundred and twenty. You

564
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Speaker 2: guys are up over there by the way, give it

565
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Speaker 2: just so you're aware. The Dolphins, of course, have been

566
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Speaker 2: one of the key teams in talks with the Colts

567
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Speaker 2: about Jonathan Taylor, and the extra three million in cap

568
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Speaker 2: space would help there.

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Speaker 4: It would, But the issue is not his cap number

570
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Speaker 4: for this year, right, It's gonna be about draft compensation.

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Speaker 2: Initially it's gonna be compensation, and then it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: but he's not as rookie deal still. Yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 2: guessing that, don't you think it would be like you

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Speaker 2: do the deal and you get your new deal.

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Speaker 4: Most likely, but in typically in these new deal extensions

576
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Speaker 4: around the league, as we know what the Browns, that

577
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Speaker 4: first year salary cap number would be very very low.

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Speaker 3: True, So this I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: I guess I don't know the bron or the Dolphins

580
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Speaker 2: cap situation as as it is right now, just absorbing

581
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Speaker 2: him on his rookie deal, you know? Could they do that?

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Speaker 4: If you filibuster for a second, I will I will

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Speaker 4: get I will get you that answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to tell you something real quick as

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Speaker 2: you're looking that up, and I guess I should look

586
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Speaker 2: ahead to make sure you don't have this somewhere else

587
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: in the show. I don't think that you do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's show, Jake. The Ryder Cup stuff was today. They

589
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Speaker 2: got to do that a different time of year. Yes,

590
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: put it in the spring. Put it first week of March.

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Speaker 3: Or by the way you can your last major is

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Speaker 3: in July.

593
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Speaker 2: Right, like do it August, second week of August.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I know they want to finish the Tour Championship before

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Speaker 2: the NFL, which they did last weekend. But like to

597
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Speaker 2: have like I would. I would love to watch this.

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Speaker 2: This is in Rome. I've never seen this course like

599
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: that would be fun. I love the team competition of it,

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Speaker 2: but like in the middle of football season, it's just

601
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Speaker 2: not there's no room. There's no room for it. Just

602
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: move it, man, There's all sorts of places if you move,

603
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: you could move it to so many different times a year,

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Speaker 2: spring or earlier in this.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it every other year for the Ryder Cup? Or

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Speaker 3: is that every four years?

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Speaker 2: Every two years? Rider every two years president?

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00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: So right?

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Speaker 2: Isn't it that the deal is every year you have

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Speaker 2: one of them?

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Speaker 3: I think so?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so so. The Dolphins are currently eleven

613
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Speaker 4: million under the cap, so they would have no prior

614
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Speaker 4: even to that Cedric Wilson transactions.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's updated yet, so they would have

616
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Speaker 3: no problem adding him.

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Speaker 4: My guess is if anything that was done to give

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Speaker 4: a new contract to Christian Wilkins, who.

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Speaker 2: Was also angling to be paid compensated compensated, and so

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Speaker 2: that could be a way that they don't have to

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Speaker 2: go solo on the first year, so that they wouldn't

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Speaker 2: go into twenty twenty twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four with it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, why is it at this time of day

625
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, like we're surfing around in things,

626
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Speaker 4: just a punky door and now I can't get a website.

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Speaker 3: To I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it all locked in?

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Speaker 3: But it is. There might be a big transfer file

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Speaker 3: transfer going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's usually what happens on that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Anyway, so no, there's plenty they have plenty of room,

633
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: plenty of room. I think it's a good It makes

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00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: sense that they're tying it to that.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: Maybe this would just this is completely reckless speculation, but

637
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Speaker 4: maybe they are. Maybe they're saying that if you want

638
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Speaker 4: to do this, you also have to take some contract

639
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Speaker 4: that the Colts don't want it anymore.

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Speaker 2: Oh like, take a bad one from the Colts to

641
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: get Taylor. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard for me to believe

642
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: that if they if the Colts, if the Colts do

643
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Speaker 2: indeed trade him, it feels to me like they would

644
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Speaker 2: be in the in the conversation to be picking in

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Speaker 2: the top three, because Richardson's going to be erratic as hell. Yes,

646
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to be all over the place.

647
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna do wow plays, but he's gonna complete fifty

648
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: percent of his passes and he's gonna be a mess.

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Speaker 4: What's wild to me, though, is that he is the

650
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Speaker 4: perfect compliment to Richardson.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, if they trade Jonathan Taylor, you're basically

653
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Speaker 2: saying we're gonna be picking second or third in the

654
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Speaker 2: NFL draft. Arizona's gonna pick one, and we're gonna pick

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Speaker 2: second or third. Correct, That's why it seems to be correct.

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Speaker 2: And then maybe they get Marved to go play where

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Speaker 2: his dad.

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Speaker 3: Did, which would actually be pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: That would be would be pretty cool.

660
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys saw so.

661
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Speaker 4: Yesterday was the debut right of Michael Irvin and Richard Sherman.

662
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Speaker 2: I was gonna bring this up actually, so I'm glad

663
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Speaker 2: you did. Okay, So it was but it was insane,

664
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Speaker 2: so it was it was awesome, Keishawn, who's get him out?

665
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: You don't need him involved in any way. Addition, by subtraction,

666
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: he is those two are They're good? Perfect the idea

667
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 4: that you needed all three.

668
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: You don't even need the other guy. Just give me

669
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: Irv and Sherman.

670
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, those two well right right, those two guys. Yeah,

671
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: but those two versus Yeah, so like you're going to

672
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: talk about them.

673
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: So there was a discussion, yeah, where Michael Irvin said

674
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: that he gave Ceedee Lamb advice to start catching the

675
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: ball with his body and not with his.

676
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: Hands, and Richard Sherman went.

677
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: Bonkers, like berserk, that is totally everything you're saying is wrong. Yeah,

678
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: like they say, you end up dropping so much easier

679
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: to get the ball out if you do that, on

680
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: and on and on. Basically says that you're wrong. Everybody's

681
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: chiming on this, and basically Irv is now a one

682
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 4: man island. He's on course because he's because nobody would say.

683
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 4: I mean, like Larry Fitzgerald is like the best hands

684
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: catcher in the world. That's what you gotta be. You

685
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: gotta be a handscatcher. They talk about it.

686
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: If you're not a hands catcher, then you dined. They're

687
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: not a draftable, Like come on.

688
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 4: So this was I thought one of the more hilarious

689
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: things that came out of that.

690
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: Number one. If you haven't seen the video, seek it out.

691
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 3: It's awesome.

692
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: Number two trell Owens sixteen hours ago on Twitter. Every

693
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 4: receiver coach and head coach is cringing right now listening

694
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: to this notion for receivers to catch a ball with

695
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: your body in some cases, yes, but this isn't bad advice.

696
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: This is terrible advice. And I have more tds than

697
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 4: Keishawan and Mike combined. I'm team Sherman on this one,

698
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: which I thought was a nice little dropped there quote

699
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: tweet today two minutes ago from Joe Banner. I'm standing

700
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 4: with t O. How many people ever thought you would

701
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: see that?

702
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: Wow?

703
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about.

704
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: That that those two come full circle?

705
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: That's pretty good? Yeah yeah, No, Now I will say

706
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: that like.

707
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: That's pretty good.

708
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say that like it did work for irv.

709
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 2: Irv is a he is a body catcher. He catches it.

710
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: I mean how many times.

711
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: He would get down he'd get it like this. I

712
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: mean that was for sure. But even if he's like

713
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: running a slant, he's not catching, he's still no he would.

714
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: You don't remember him like that. He was always Oh.

715
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: But I mean that's like that's a wild thing.

716
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: Well of course it is. But he's IRV.

717
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: He is IRV. Yeah, it's just all in the brochure. Brother,

718
00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: it's just.

719
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: An incredible, incredible I just thought the discussion was so awesome.

720
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's they.

721
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: Just those two.

722
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Kishan was like I had no business his business

723
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: being there.

724
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: He's a little bit like the football a rod to me, like,

725
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't understand why he keeps getting Like, what's the appeal?

726
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 4: What am I missing?

727
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: A Rod, though is one of the all time greats.

728
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: He's also one of the most unlikable players and.

729
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: Not an all time great No.

730
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: No, no, no, but he's.

731
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: Right.

732
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: But like there, who is who is.

733
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: Saying to themselves? With either one of them, more of

734
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: them is what the people want? I don't know, no question,

735
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: he's better, but like he twice, you know, it was

736
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: kind of anti Clutch more than anti clutch when he

737
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: was with the Yankees.

738
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: You know I have that clip if you want to

739
00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: hear it right now.

740
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, talked about it.

741
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go, let's do it, he finished.

742
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 7: I told him, I said, listen, man, with all these

743
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 7: people around you, learn to catch this ball in your body,

744
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 7: so so in your hands you tighten up, ball goes

745
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 7: through you.

746
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 5: Are you tighten up balls?

747
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 3: Agross advice for a receiver.

748
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 7: Don't catch it with your hands, catch it with your body.

749
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 7: How you don't you know, I mean that's the worst

750
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 7: than body. I'm probably wanted the best to elf do

751
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 7: it and playing that what I'm saying.

752
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how you with.

753
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 7: Your bad not your hands, and at a championship on

754
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 7: level what I'm talking about doing, I want champs to

755
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 7: throw the frad level doing.

756
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 5: I don't know how you got bad and soundad that bad.

757
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: Because if you're.

758
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 7: Telling kids to catch with the body and not their hair,

759
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 7: what you're saying, not saying what he said, thank you

760
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 7: for what I'm saying.

761
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, I play.

762
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 7: Call you and you're catching it in your body, you

763
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 7: bring it in that PSS and I'm on your back.

764
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 5: I'm getting that.

765
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 7: Out here with every single time I'm getting that a

766
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 7: mound of it. You're not You're not bringing it in

767
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 7: your body, catch it with your hands, your kids.

768
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is you're making excuses.

769
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 7: Saying a professional professional twelve game play twelve games.

770
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 8: We're letting you were trying make an excuses.

771
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 9: Let me say he drops some balls.

772
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: Let me break it down.

773
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 4: You said, we're talking.

774
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 8: Let me break it down in the much simpler fashion,

775
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 8: real quick well playmaker is saying, though, think is that

776
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 8: when you have people around you, you naturally tends up.

777
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 8: So protect yourself to be able to catch the football.

778
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 8: On top of that, when you talk about catch, when

779
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 8: you talk about interceptions, when you talk when you okay,

780
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 8: what's the m v P of that whole?

781
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 5: Every level, every level, every level.

782
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm just.

783
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: Dropping that at the boys at football practice.

784
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 6: I think you need to drop it in video game

785
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 6: playing champions at every level, every level.

786
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: Every level. Uh, it's amazing. Like what I feel like

787
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 4: what they needed to do right at that moment was

788
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: go out onto the lawn outside of the studio and

789
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 4: have a quarterback and IRV is gonna run one on

790
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: one against Sherman and catch his body and Sherman, you know,

791
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 4: is gonna punch it out and then we might get

792
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: a freak as a melee who knows and level every

793
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 4: championships of every level. He said twice for emphasis. I

794
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: loved it. Uh, And then Keshan's like, guys, guys, let

795
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: me talk, and they're like, no, unbelievable. Look, by the way,

796
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: but look at this on a on a Tuesday. Look

797
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: at that a little English blush, goodness gracious behind the back,

798
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: toss I said, what is this a big This is

799
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: a big day. That's a day.

800
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: It's a gorgeous blue.

801
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, isn't it gorgeous? Blue?

802
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: English English blue?

803
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: English blue?

804
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, very nice, very very nice. You want to

805
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: play a little facster fiction.

806
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: Give sure if you. I mean, you guys are on

807
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: a roll.

808
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 6: But so I've adjusted the factor fiction questions because a

809
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 6: lot's happened since I put these together an hour ago.

810
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 4: Oh right, well, plus you all, if you just listened

811
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: to the crystal Bob Gibbe and I actually had a

812
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: really nice roster sash on the plane, really had he

813
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 4: had it Saturday afternoon, with the exception of one thing.

814
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: That's what happens. We were we were waiting for a while.

815
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: Did that feel like the longest ninety minute flight ever?

816
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 6: That was not ninety minutes, that was over two hours.

817
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 6: We were out over the lake forever, I know. I

818
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 6: looked down and I'm like, how did we end up over?

819
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: Like not over the lake like on the east side,

820
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: like circling, because that'll happen sometimes where you circle around

821
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: like men or.

822
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 6: Painsville and you make the turn and come in. We

823
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 6: were out like to the north.

824
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we went up through It's almost like we

825
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: went up through Chicago and then over instead of just

826
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 4: it was.

827
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 6: I looked down, I'm like, I don't I don't even

828
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 6: see a city on the other side, like I could

829
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 6: see really, and I'm like, we were just look out.

830
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 2: Of the middle of Lake Erie.

831
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 5: Where are we?

832
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 3: Canada? Baby International Waters?

833
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: Oh there you go? Yeah, yeah, Flint and Bay get

834
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: up there, Little Kelly's there we go. They had some

835
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: big players up there who they have Pitt Bull?

836
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 5: Is that real?

837
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

838
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 6: They do. They do it every year. They do their

839
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 6: bash on the Bay. Pretty awesome. Event I get that.

840
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 6: There's a tone Shenanigans. Yeah, tell you that lots all right.

841
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 6: Number one the Browns roster one week from now will

842
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 6: feature a linebacker not on the current roster. Fact or fiction, Zigura.

843
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: I think that'll be fiction. I think that'll be fiction.

844
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: You've got j ok A walk Taki Taki Diabat Matthew

845
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 4: Adams for special teams in Tony Field, So I would

846
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: say that that is fiction.

847
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 2: If he said it it's gospel.

848
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I mean, there could be it.

849
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: They will never hesitate to upgrade the roster, but it

850
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: feels to me like that position where they would. Yeah.

851
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just trying to look at who else

852
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: has been kind of cut and on the block, and

853
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything.

854
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 5: All right.

855
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 4: I want to give the people one of the questions

856
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 4: pre edits all right, gibe, Well, we went through this

857
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 4: yesterday and on the plane. The Browns original fifty three

858
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: man roster on Tuesday will have more offensive players than

859
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 4: defensive players.

860
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: Give it, hey, man, I said, I adjusted it. Yeah,

861
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: but you knew that und that yesterday. Yeah, but as

862
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: I was putting it together today, might have been in

863
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 3: the middle of a meeting and it was like, Eh,

864
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: that sounds good.

865
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna stand up where you give it. Not

866
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: everyone listens to every show or every minute, so you

867
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: get to reiterate he's leading us back to it. That

868
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 2: brings us right back to the genius.

869
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, next genius fact for the biggest winner

870
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 6: of the Browns preseason Dorian Thompson Robinson factor Fiction Bishop.

871
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Speaker 4: No.

872
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's a big one. There's I think there

873
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: are two that are the biggest he's won. But I

874
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: think the even bigger one is probably Dwan Jones. The

875
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: fact that he played that much in that well at

876
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: a position where he could actually come in to play

877
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 2: on the actual roster and start sooner.

878
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: There's a more immediate need.

879
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: Not necessarily next week or whatever, but theoretically Dwan Jones

880
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: could be like a game changer right away. DTR is

881
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: a huge bonus baby, but Deshaun Watson's the quarterback of

882
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: the foreseeable future. Dwan Jones playing at this level and

883
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: validating his talent and showing up and having the camp

884
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: he did after the pre draft process, I would say

885
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: he is the biggest winner.

886
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go a completely different direction. I'll say the

887
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 4: biggest winners of the preseason were ma Mood Diabadi and

888
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: Ronnie Hickman, because those are two guys that at this

889
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 4: part of this process, I don't think anybody was really

890
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: talking about them to actually be on this initial fifty

891
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 4: three man roster.

892
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 3: Dwan Jones we knew was going to make the team.

893
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: We didn't know he was going to look as good

894
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: to your point. Dtr was going to make the team.

895
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: We didn't know he was going to look as good

896
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: to your point. But I think the two guys that

897
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: changed their lives the most this preseason would be my mood,

898
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: dea Body and Rocket Hickman.

899
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 6: Next thanks, I do. I like that as well. Uh

900
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 6: NFL big picture. Von Miller will missed at least nine

901
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 6: games in twenty twenty three. He's already missing the first

902
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 6: four on the pup list. Ze girl fact or fiction,

903
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 6: it's a heart. I mean, that's based on nothing right now.

904
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: Right, My guess is he was banging that blast year

905
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: though too right, hero and.

906
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 4: Tell us he got hurt against us. I think that,

907
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 4: you know, nine games, that's a pretty good buffer. I

908
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: think he won't. I think he will not miss nine games.

909
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: That would be the safe thing to do to say

910
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: that he wouldn't. But I do start to wonder if

911
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: all this stuff starts to stack't.

912
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 3: Surprise once you start getting hurt.

913
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't stop up there.

914
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 6: Next fact for fiction, Chris Jones will not suit up

915
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 6: for the Chiefs one week from Thursday night and the

916
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 6: Chiefs opener against the Lions.

917
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: Fast fact, he's not. No, no, And I think they're

918
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: prepared for it and ready to sit it out.

919
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 4: And wait it out Christians.

920
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have plenty of time to Look, they

921
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: just won the Super Bowl. They still have the kid

922
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: at quarterback, so I mean it will They don't really

923
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: need him now, honestly, like they can tread water.

924
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: For they will not have much of a defensive line

925
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: without him.

926
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: No, but they're not playing in the AFC Championship Game

927
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: next week.

928
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: But listen, one, there's one thing let me throw just

929
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: for this take of discussion.

930
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 3: That's what we're doing here.

931
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 5: Every level, every level.

932
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: I like that.

933
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 6: That's a good one right there, the way you just

934
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 6: did that.

935
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, every lever.

936
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 4: Level you got you should be out there with like

937
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: the kids. Do you guys want to be champions on

938
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: every level?

939
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm dropping every level. That's every practice.

940
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 4: I feel like it's now it's like part part Irvin,

941
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: part like Boss Hog.

942
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's a lot like what it is is. It's

943
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 2: it's first of all, I love Boss Hog. I thought

944
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: putting horns on the Tesla. But the other I mean,

945
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: would that's be amazing if I did that, Yes, right

946
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: on there, it'd be great. Yeah, I love that. It's

947
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: a little bit. The thing is is it's very much

948
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: like Ball.

949
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 5: Never Lost Lost Ever, kind of the same.

950
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: Also sounds like Eddie Murphy and one of his characters

951
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: for coming to America.

952
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 4: I don't think whenever we need like whenever we need

953
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 4: like a minute. Just play that clip. It was wow,

954
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: just the delight. So here's the here's for the point

955
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 4: of discussion, since my brain finally actually remember what I

956
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: was going to say. I think it is given the

957
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 4: competitive nature of the AFC, I think razors edge. It's

958
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 4: a razor's edge. You said it, so like the notion

959
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: that let's take our best defensive playoff field for eight

960
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: games that we're gonna be just fine.

961
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not saying eight.

962
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: That's what he's prepared to do. So like, if you're

963
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: why would you do it at four? If you're not

964
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: gonna do it now, you're either gonna meet his demands

965
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: or you're not.

966
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: Well, they're they obviously are banking on him caving on.

967
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 3: His It doesn't seem to happen.

968
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 4: I mean, the last high profile holdout that I really remember,

969
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: and I'm sure there have been many in between, here

970
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 4: was the Dallas Cowboys and EMMITTT. Smith.

971
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: You remember that.

972
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: And the Cowboys started off like one and two or something.

973
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: They were not and then they paid him the.

974
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: Money he pays that man, he's money. Yeah, all right,

975
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: So here's the this is the Chiefs. This is pretty

976
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: manageable for them. Okay, Lions at Jaguars, Bears at Jets

977
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: at Vikings, Broncos, then Chargers, Broncos, Dolphins.

978
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: That's how they.

979
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 3: Oh they get the Broncos out of the way early.

980
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but those are But there's not like a Super

981
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 2: Bowl winner in there, except maybe the Jets hold on trade.

982
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 4: Right here, with Tris Jones still holding out, the Chiefs

983
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 4: just traded a six round pick to the Las Vegas

984
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 4: Raiders for defensive tackle Neil Ferrell, per sources. That's Adam

985
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 4: Schefter five minutes ago. Adam Schefter one minute ago. The

986
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: Chiefs have released safety Dion Bush and defensive tackle Danny Shelton.

987
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: Guy Big Danny. All Right.

988
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 6: Final one fact for fiction, taking the Browns out of

989
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 6: this factor.

990
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: Fiction.

991
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 6: The Jets are the favorite to win the AFC going

992
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 6: into the twenty twenty three season.

993
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: No fiction. No, In fact, we have a way to

994
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: actually check that now that we have odds. Vallely Bet

995
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: live in Ohio. No, the Chiefs are I think it's Chiefs, Bengals, Bills.

996
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: I think the Jets actually might be good value. I

997
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: think they're going to be really good.

998
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 3: I put the Jets ahead of the Bills.

999
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: I like the Jets. I think Rogers is going to

1000
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: be lights out. I like the mojo around that team.

1001
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 6: With the Bills, I don't know what's going on with

1002
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 6: the chemistry there, and we've talked about it all off season.

1003
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sold.

1004
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: What was what was Manning his first year.

1005
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 4: In Denver?

1006
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: Was it the first year there, well he was Was

1007
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: it the first year year where he had like the

1008
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: greatest season he's ever had in his life?

1009
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: Yes?

1010
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: Or was it the second season when he went nuts there?

1011
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: I figure it was that first I don't know the

1012
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: year they're pulling it up.

1013
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: You're talking about the fifty touchdown here? Yeah, he had

1014
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 4: the one.

1015
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: All right, here we go. So his first year in Denver,

1016
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: I think it's gosh, they went. They went thirteen and

1017
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: three first two years in Denver. So first year in

1018
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: Denver seventy. Yeah, it's the second year when he goes bonkers,

1019
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 2: sixty eight percent passing fifty four to seventy seven, fifty

1020
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: five touchdowns, ten picks. The first year he went sixty

1021
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: eight percent, forty six, fifty nine, thirty seven and eleven

1022
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: fifty second in the MVP. The next year he won

1023
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: the MVP. But yeah, so like he went, they went

1024
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: thirteen three, thirteen three, twelve and four the first three

1025
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: years with Manning, and then he went seven and two

1026
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: the last year and that's when they won the Super Bowl.

1027
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's really good.

1028
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: That's a little farious times. Emmanuel Sanders, Garrett Wilson.

1029
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: They probably wish they still had Elijah Moore, would be

1030
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 2: my guess. Yeah, you would think so, Yeah, for sure.

1031
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,600
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1035
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1036
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1051
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Speaker 2: Jake Trotter of ESPN joins us. Jake, thanks for the time,

1052
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: but any surprises for you so far on the on

1053
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: the cutdowns.

1054
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 9: No, I really don't think so, you know, going into

1055
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 9: the weekend, I think that, you know, they had a

1056
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 9: one version of the fifty three man roster. I think

1057
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 9: after Kam's injury and Kade York's continued to struggles, that

1058
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 9: changed some things. But you know, I thought Ronnie Hickman

1059
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 9: would make it. I thought Diabate would make it. I

1060
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 9: thought AJ Green would make it. So I think the

1061
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 9: guys that it looked like, or maybe the forty nine,

1062
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 9: fiftieth fifty first guys, it looks like they're going to

1063
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 9: make it. You know, Austin Watkins was a tough one,

1064
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 9: but you know, I felt like if they were going

1065
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 9: to keep seven receivers, it was going to be because

1066
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 9: of cheqm Grant and not because of some other player.

1067
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 9: And you know, I think they're still kind of working

1068
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 9: around the edges here. I don't know that they are

1069
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 9: completely done. Might be a couple of guys they would

1070
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 9: like to trade before they cut them. So we'll see

1071
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 9: what happens here.

1072
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: Jake, where did the notion that AJ Green was in

1073
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: trouble come from?

1074
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 9: Well, I think that if you're looking at roster composition,

1075
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 9: you know, you traditionally would want, you know, ten defensive

1076
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 9: backs in the Browns. It looks like you're going to

1077
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 9: keep eleven. And I know that the Browns wanted five safeties,

1078
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 9: which is where Ronnie Hickman made the cut as the

1079
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 9: fifth guy. But if you're going to keep five safeties

1080
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 9: in six corners, you know your your roster starts to

1081
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 9: get a little tight elsewhere. Now, one thing I don't

1082
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 9: know is whether they're going to keep Mike Ford. You know,

1083
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 9: he's a he's a special teams guy. I don't know

1084
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 9: if that's been reported him not. I'm not sure yet.

1085
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 4: I think make it.

1086
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 3: I think he's going to make it right.

1087
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, the roster decision that's left out there, right, is

1088
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: it Mike Ford or Maurice Hurst. But I feel like

1089
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 4: whoever getting on the initial fifty three is a wink wink,

1090
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: nod nod when we put you know, Jordan Kunashik and

1091
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: Olex right on, ir you come back, And.

1092
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 9: I think Felton is the other one out there. Now,

1093
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 9: if it fell in still on the roster in a

1094
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 9: couple of hours or in an hour, then I think

1095
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 9: he is going to get cut. I would expect him

1096
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 9: to get claimed. I thought he really showed that he

1097
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 9: can help some teams, and I think he still could

1098
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 9: get traded. We'll see what happens here, but yeah, I

1099
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 9: think we're down to like the last two or three guys.

1100
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 9: So back to what you were saying about AJ Green.

1101
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 9: I mean, this guy's good player. It's just you know,

1102
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 9: are you going to keep eleven defensive backs? And if so,

1103
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 9: you know where you're gonna cut elsewhere. I really think

1104
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 9: that the team Grant injury really helped AJ Green. I

1105
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 9: think that that that maybe opened up a spot, you

1106
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 9: know for a guy like Green, you know, to slide

1107
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 9: in and be that eleven defensive back.

1108
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: Just Jake, just from a where you and Zee and

1109
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: I were talking about this earlier, like there's this front

1110
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: office and this ownership is going to be aggressive when

1111
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: there's opportunity to be aggressive. We've kind of centered on,

1112
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: you know, perhaps someone who's actually has some established carries

1113
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: in the league at running back rather than as limited

1114
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: the experience that there is currently behind Nick Chubb. So

1115
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: that was a position do you agree with that? Where

1116
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: else could you see them maybe taking a look from

1117
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: a position breakdown standpoint if as cutdowns happened around the league.

1118
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's where that's where Felton I think got

1119
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 9: you know, getting squeezed a little bit, is because you know,

1120
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 9: Elijah Moore is kind of that player for them offensively,

1121
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 9: He's kind of playing that role that that dimitric Felton

1122
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 9: might play on another team. You know, with boards injury,

1123
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 9: you need another back that can you know, be in

1124
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 9: every down type back as a backup to Nick Chubb.

1125
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 9: And that's not really what Felton does. And so I

1126
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 9: just I think stylistically he wasn't really a fit for

1127
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 9: this new offense that that the Browns are going to

1128
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 9: be introducing this year. So yeah, I mean, I do

1129
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 9: think that they wanted somebody who could be explosive, you know,

1130
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 9: that that that could be. And it sounds like this

1131
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 9: new edition is even though I can't you know, to

1132
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 9: be honest, i've seen him play or can't recall seeing

1133
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 9: him play, they sounds more like, yeah, kind of guy

1134
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 9: that they wanted based on, you know what I'd been

1135
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 9: hearing going into cut day.

1136
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: Talk about Jake Trotter covers the Browns and Jake. When

1137
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 4: you look at the big moves over the weekend, when

1138
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 4: was the trade for Pierre Strong, there was a trade

1139
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 4: of Josh Dobbs as well. Hell since last time we've

1140
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: talked to you, and then obviously the decision to trade

1141
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 4: for Dustin Hopkins. Let's start with the kicker conversation. What

1142
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 4: did you coming out of Kansas City? What were you thinking?

1143
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 4: And then what do you think of how it all

1144
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: ultimately unfolded.

1145
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 9: I mean, I think going into Kansas City that they

1146
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 9: were still leading toward keeping York and that he was

1147
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 9: going to be their starting kicker going into Cincinnati. I

1148
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 9: mean maybe you heard differently, Nathan, that's not That's the

1149
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 9: sense I got. And I think after he hit that

1150
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 9: field goal with what like five minutes to go, like

1151
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 9: a forty yard field goal, I think at that moment

1152
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 9: he was going to be the starting kicker against Cincinnati.

1153
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 9: And not to say that that the miss at the

1154
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 9: end was the reason, but I just think it was

1155
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 9: the final data point where they were just like, you know,

1156
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 9: we got to we're all in on this season, and

1157
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 9: we've got to have a reliable kicker, and right now,

1158
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 9: you know, Kay York is not. He missed three game

1159
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 9: winning field goals in two preseason games, and there's just

1160
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 9: no way you were going to have a ton of

1161
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 9: confidence in him. Going into the first month of the season,

1162
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 9: which is critical for the Browns based on who they

1163
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 9: played three divisional opponents. So as soon as he missed

1164
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 9: that last one, I felt like that was probably it.

1165
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 9: And then when you heard Kevin Stefanski, who had really

1166
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 9: backed him up to that point, you know, decline to

1167
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 9: say anything about whether you know he was going to

1168
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 9: be their starter going into the Cincinnati game, I think

1169
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 9: that was you know, fade a complete at that point.

1170
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 9: It was just a question of, you know, were they

1171
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 9: going to go get a guy like Folk, who I

1172
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 9: believe got traded today to see that you know, you know,

1173
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 9: or the guy they ended up getting. You know, it

1174
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 9: was clear that they were going to try to make

1175
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 9: a move for a veteran kicker, and listen, I wouldn't

1176
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 9: write off Kate York kicking in the NFL at some point.

1177
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 9: I don't know if it's ever going to be for

1178
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 9: the Browns, but you know, we've seen some of these

1179
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 9: guys struggle early who are talented, who catch on somewhere else.

1180
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 9: You know, I don't know what the plan is for Kde,

1181
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 9: but you know, it wouldn't be the worst thing in

1182
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 9: the world for him to maybe have a change of

1183
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 9: scenery and kind of, you know, rebuild his confidence elsewhere

1184
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 9: because we saw the Carolina game. You know he's he's

1185
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 9: a talented guy. It just it's just gone haywire for

1186
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 9: him for whatever reason since he made that kick.

1187
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has.

1188
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: And aside from the kicker, the rest of the stuff

1189
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: we're discussing here is is bottom roster, its last couple

1190
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: of guys making the team, and barring significant injuries, the

1191
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: impact will be pretty minimal for all of these guys.

1192
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: But big picture, you're a little more than ten days

1193
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: from playing Cincinnati and the opener here in Cleveland. You

1194
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: were at every availability that there was at camp. Jake,

1195
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: how do you assess this training camp now that it's

1196
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: completed for this Browns team? Did it get done what

1197
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: it needed to get done?

1198
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 9: It's impossible to answer that. Ask me this in one month,

1199
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 9: then I'll have a better answer for you. I mean,

1200
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 9: I think that they were fortunate not to have any

1201
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 9: serious injuries. Although you know, this Denzel Ward thing is

1202
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 9: a little worrisome considering the opponent they have coming up.

1203
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 9: You know, if you're going to need Denzel Ward for

1204
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 9: any team in the NFL, it's for the Bengals, but

1205
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 9: for the most part, you know, really didn't have any

1206
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 9: major injuries, with the exception of toe Keem Grant, which hurts,

1207
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 9: and he was going to help them on special teams.

1208
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 9: I think that, you know, they got some confidence in

1209
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 9: that Kansas City game, even though you know they're playing

1210
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 9: against you know, the backup Kansas City defense. They were

1211
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 9: able to move the ball. You know you're gonna get

1212
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 9: Murkis Goodwin rolling again here, which is positive. And Mark Cooper,

1213
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 9: you know, after kind of a slow camp, I think

1214
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 9: really came on in the last couple of weeks. So

1215
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 9: it seems like you're ramping up everybody at the right time.

1216
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 9: But you know, people ask, like, you know, was the

1217
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 9: Greenbrier a good idea? Like I don't know, Like I

1218
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 9: we'll know after the first month. You know, what they

1219
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 9: got out of this training camp is not going to

1220
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 9: be revealed until we see how they do the first

1221
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 9: month of the season.

1222
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: And they're gonna be attested as you mentioned Cincinnati week one,

1223
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 4: Steelers week two, Ravens week four, so it will all

1224
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 4: be there for them. Let's go back to Kansas City.

1225
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 4: When the starters left the field twenty two to three

1226
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 4: was the score at that time. What did you see

1227
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 4: from the Browns starting in defensive units minus Miles Garrett,

1228
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 4: Joel Botonio and obviously Nick Chubb.

1229
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 9: So I think the biggest potential difference we're going to

1230
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 9: see defensively is and I think people don't realize this

1231
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 9: because Miles Garrett makes so many plays himself, but this

1232
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 9: really has not been a playmaking defense really in a

1233
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 9: long time. And when it has made plays, it's mostly

1234
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 9: been Miles Garrett, sometimes Denzel Ward. The Browns have really

1235
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 9: struggled to rack up sacks, tackles for loss, you know, interceptions, picks, sixes.

1236
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 9: I mean, we just haven't seen a lot of that.

1237
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 9: And it's hard to win in the NFL with how

1238
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 9: good these offenses are, especially in the AFC, if you're

1239
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 9: not forcing negative plays. I think you saw against Kansas

1240
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 9: City what this could be. You know, the wand Thornhill

1241
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 9: picked six, McLeod got in there with an interception, and

1242
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 9: you know, I think Miles and Zadarius might be the

1243
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 9: strength of the entire team right now, those two guys

1244
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 9: coming off the edge, especially with Obo, you know, backing

1245
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,959
Speaker 9: them up. So I think that this has a chance

1246
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 9: to be a real playmaking defense that you know could

1247
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 9: be you know, in the in the top ten in

1248
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 9: the NFL. And I think Kansas City gave us a

1249
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 9: glimpse of, you know the upside of what this could

1250
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 9: be under Jim Schwartz.

1251
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's that's the thing that's tough about

1252
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: the Denzel news, right, I mean, and I know it's optimistic.

1253
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: And I saw him on my way in here today,

1254
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, who knows what you see with

1255
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: a guy looks great, So who knows. But you hope

1256
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: that he's back. But it is predicated on on that

1257
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: part of it, that you have those lockdown guys because

1258
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: the front and that that's probably I guess when I

1259
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: asked the question of like has this been a good camp,

1260
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: it really comes down to what we saw in Philly

1261
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: more than anything else. To me, like could you physically

1262
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: hang with the team that physical And the answer there

1263
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: was emphatically yes, yeah, yeah.

1264
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 9: And and I wasn't in Philly to the joint practices,

1265
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 9: but based on every account I read, I think everybody

1266
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 9: was more pressed with the Browns defense than anything And

1267
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 9: you know, I think that would have surprised some people

1268
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 9: maybe going into training camp. You know, haven't been paying attention,

1269
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 9: but you know, the Browns defense could be really, really good,

1270
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 9: and you know, if the passing game can come along

1271
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 9: like we think it should and could you know, you know,

1272
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 9: really not gonna have a lot of weaknesses on this team.

1273
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 9: So yeah, I think physically the defense, the way that

1274
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 9: it hung in there against a very physical Eagles offense,

1275
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 9: you know, to me, was really encouraging for the season

1276
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 9: because guess what in AFC North, you know what you

1277
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 9: gotta be.

1278
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 4: You got to be physical, Yeah, and you got to

1279
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: be disruptive to these quarterbacks in this division, in this

1280
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 4: conference at large. Speaking of quarterback to Shaan Watson and

1281
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 4: that one showed off. I thought made a couple of

1282
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 4: really good throws, the touchdown to David Ajoko, the first

1283
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 4: play to don Van People's jones, and then showed what

1284
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 4: he could do out of structure on that play to

1285
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 4: Amari Cooper. What did you see from Watson? And obviously

1286
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 4: there were some throws that he did not have on

1287
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 4: the money like he normally would. One was low on

1288
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 4: a third down to Elijah Moore, But what did you

1289
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 4: see overall from him and how he feel about where

1290
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 4: this offense will be once we get you know, Nick

1291
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 4: Chubb on the field as well.

1292
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, the one thing that's difficult to evaluate

1293
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 9: Watson in practice is that you know, he is so

1294
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 9: good at evading the rush and making plays, and you know,

1295
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 9: in training camp it's it's hard to see what that

1296
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 9: looks like because you know, you're not allowed to to

1297
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 9: go after the quarterback, even in the joint practices, and

1298
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 9: you know, the play gets you know, blown dead or

1299
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 9: even when they allow it to go on, it's like

1300
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 9: is this you know, is this a real play or not?

1301
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 9: And I think you you saw in the Kansas City

1302
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 9: game and even that Washington series that he played. You know,

1303
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 9: he just is very difficult, you know, to bring down.

1304
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 9: And that was something that didn't go away last year.

1305
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 9: You know, he didn't play the way that he's capable

1306
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 9: of playing in those six games at all. But the

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Speaker 9: one thing that you know, he still was able to do,

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Speaker 9: I felt like wash, you know, make plays out of

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01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 9: the pocket. Now, he probably bailed outside the pocket a

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Speaker 9: little bit too much last year. He probably hailed onto

1311
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 9: the ball a little bit too often last year. But

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Speaker 9: you know, he is so difficult to bring down, and

1313
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Speaker 9: you know something that this offense has been missing is

1314
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 9: the chunk plays in the passing game. And you saw

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Speaker 9: in that Kansas City game. When you know things break down,

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01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 9: you know receivers are going to be open, and I

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01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 9: think the wide outs are going to be you know,

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01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 9: more aware of Hey, Okay, my route's over, but the

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01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 9: play is not over. I can still get open. And

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01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 9: I think at times offensive linemen receivers maybe gave up

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01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 9: on the play last year because they weren't used to

1322
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 9: that style. I think they're going to be used to

1323
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 9: it now, and I think it's going to create a

1324
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 9: lot of opportunities for some big plays downfield in the

1325
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 9: passing game.

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Speaker 2: Jake, great stuff as always, Buddy, Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for your time.

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Speaker 9: Okay, guys, happy fifty three day.

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Speaker 2: We'll see it.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: the Athletic that in an NFL agent survey, they surveyed

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01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: twenty three reps on the various hot button topics around

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Speaker 2: the league. So these are quotes from agents. Here are

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Speaker 2: the top Here's the first time, should or could anything

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: be done to address the depressed running back market. Let's

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01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: pretend that you are an agent first before we listen

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Speaker 2: to what they.

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Speaker 4: Have to say. I would try to represent running backs

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01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 4: who could run it and catch it at a very

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Speaker 4: high level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course if you're an agent, of course

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01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: you would want to address this because you potentially will

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Speaker 2: have running backs.

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Speaker 4: But even in here they're anonymous, then they basically there's

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Speaker 4: just no fix. It's their money isn't being spent on them.

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01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 4: Money's being spent everywhere. But you know all, you can

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01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 4: get eighty percent of these elite running backs for much

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Speaker 4: less than the elite running backs costs.

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Speaker 2: That's the b Jon Robinson totally conversation right there. Some

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01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 2: of these quotes, this one, these are all from anonymous

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01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: agents that should have been in the CBA. Whether a

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01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 2: lack of vision or oversight or indifference, it's not there.

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Speaker 2: If Saquon Barkley and Jonathan Taylor can't get paid, essentially saying,

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01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: then who.

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Speaker 4: Should get pai, Well, what would be in the CBA

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Speaker 4: you have to pay.

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Speaker 2: To pay running backs? It don't make any sense. Probably

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Speaker 2: an agent for one of those two. Outside a radical

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01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 2: change to the CBA, running backs that run will get

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Speaker 2: and catch will get paid.

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Speaker 4: Pure running backs.

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Speaker 2: Yikes.

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Speaker 3: There are two good.

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Speaker 4: Answers in here, Yeah, that are actually reflective.

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Speaker 2: This is a really good one. The next one is

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Speaker 2: really good to read.

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01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 3: That one that's one of them.

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Speaker 2: I want players to make more money, but this isn't

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Speaker 2: the nineties.

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01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 4: The next too or stilly, and then the one that

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Speaker 4: starts with I feel horrible for these guys. I think

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01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 4: that's that said. That's just the truth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the this is the real truth, Boots,

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01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: he says, I feel horrible for these guys. Unfortunately, the

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01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: market is with the market bears, and right now running

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01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: back is seen as an expendable committee position. The only

1396
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: thing that they could do, and this is not realistic,

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01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 2: is to get every single running back to withhold their

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01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: services so the teams have no one and then they

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Speaker 2: will be forced to.

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Speaker 3: Pay anybody on the street.

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Speaker 2: Would be like all come run run.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yes, as specialist Christian is speaking of McCaffrey, if the

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01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: forty nine ers wanted to say we don't want to

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01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 2: pay you what we're paying you anymore, then go find

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01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: they go find another good player, not as good as Christian,

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Speaker 2: not even close, but another good player and they probably

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Speaker 2: win games with that player. That's when you're expendable. Like

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Speaker 2: this just is just the market, just the market. So

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Speaker 2: much has been made of this, but like it's I

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Speaker 2: will say this, it's probably the most marketable. Yep, it's

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01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: the most marketable, coolest thing in sports that's that is

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Speaker 2: compensated the way that it's compensated. Does that make sense? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like it's little kids want to be running backs or quarterbacks.

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01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: We are coming up, receivers coming up. It is but

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Speaker 2: still like even now, like, yeah, it is for sure

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Speaker 2: like the little kids are, but the best players always

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01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: they always play running back in youth and then that's

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Speaker 2: the way that it goes. But yeah, it's you know,

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Speaker 2: so in that sense, it's just not what we're used to,

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Speaker 2: but it's it is what it is. What do you

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Speaker 2: think of the Jonathan Taylor Colts feud. You've made your

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Speaker 2: opinions on this earlier we asked you about this.

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Speaker 4: Well, I just don't think there's any leverage. And that's

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Speaker 4: the third one. Taylor does not have any leverage. But

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Speaker 4: the Colt's owner, this is the quote, but the Colts

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01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 4: owner should get out of the way, let his Jim

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 4: handle I think that's that's exactly right right there. And

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01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 4: the other next one says if Ers had kept his

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Speaker 4: thoughts to himself, Taylor likely stays and plays insteadsay ruined

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01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 4: it and gave Taylor an easy reason a man of trade,

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Speaker 4: why not take it since the franchise is not showing

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01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 4: a ton of promise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those things with Ersay, where like,

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Speaker 2: didn't this thing just elevate over Twitter?

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Speaker 4: It did?

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Speaker 3: And the comments that you know that he's replaceable. I

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01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 3: think this one is very right on.

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01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 4: I think it's fueled by bad agent advice compounded by

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01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 4: a devaluation at the running back edition.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's really where we're at. That's it.

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Speaker 4: Taylor is tremendous. The Colts also went thirteen twenty and

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01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: one in his two playoff list season. So it's like

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01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 4: when branch Ricky told Hall of Famer Ralph Kiner and

1445
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 4: contract negotiations, we finished last with you.

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Speaker 3: We can do that without you.

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01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you know, it's it's back at that

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01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: running back position thing again too, where you know, you

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: pick one of these guys in the first round like

1450
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: they did with the Colts, and then you build an

1451
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 2: offense around I mean, he scores two thousand points, you say, well,

1452
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 2: look how important I am. And the reality is it's

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: it's really what Saquon Barkley did, and it's what Josh

1454
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: Jacobs ended up doing what was Jacob's twelve. Jacobs was twelve,

1455
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: wasn't he when that was the number?

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01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 4: On? Just Jakob?

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01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: When you're five million to come back? Yet, Yeah, that's it.

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: That's that's the market, that's what you're worth. What are

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01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: your thoughts on Lamar Jackson's contract extension and how he

1460
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: got there with the Ravens despite no.

1461
01:08:59,400 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 4: Formal eight.

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01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean he did a good job.

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01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 4: I think what the agents would say is probably could

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01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: have gotten that done a year earlier than he's in

1465
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 4: new year, closer to another contract. But I think at

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01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 4: the end of the day, as long as he's happy

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01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 4: with the process, that's all that matters. Is a quote.

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Speaker 4: People helped him, So did the Jalen hurt Steel is

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01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 4: another quote. This was an interesting one, missed opportunity for

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01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 4: everyone here. He had a chance to get what Watson

1471
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 4: got with guaranteed money. If he pushed more, he got

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 4: a great deal and good for him. But Watson and

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01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 4: Cousins remain outliers rather than trend setters.

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Speaker 2: Well we've seen that. I think the next time we

1475
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: will find out where that sits is Burrow because Herbert

1476
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 2: didn't get there, so will Burrow get there from a

1477
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: total guarantee perspective.

1478
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 3: All right, what do you make of Aaron.

1479
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 2: Rodgers pushing the Jets for at the end of his

1480
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 2: saga with the Packers and in the name of player empowerment?

1481
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 4: I think this quote right here is right on it.

1482
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 4: Only the one percenters can pull this off. Running backs

1483
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 4: are realizing this. Positions don't matter in the NBA, there

1484
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 4: are only five stars in any of them can create

1485
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 4: significant contract leverage and quite frankly be a difference maker. Yep.

1486
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 3: And the NFL, only the quarterback compares. I think it's

1487
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 3: one hundred percent right.

1488
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 2: There's with the devaluation of the of the running back,

1489
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 2: the quarterback position over the last fifteen years has just

1490
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: it's so. It's always been the whole time. You and

1491
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 2: I are men were forty. When we were young, quarterback

1492
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 2: was one of the coolest positions in sports, one of

1493
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 2: the most important. It is so far exponentially grown to

1494
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 2: what it is now. From an importance, I don't even

1495
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: know what else is in the vicinity.

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01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 3: Of in the NFL, No sport. No, it's the number

1497
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 3: one in sport.

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01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 2: Nothing like the difference between the importance of having a

1499
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 2: great quarterback and your next and the next next position

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 2: in football versus anything in sport compared to the next

1501
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: position in that sport. It's just not it's just so,

1502
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: it's just so important and critical. And we're at a

1503
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: point now where we're kind of the most talent I

1504
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: think we've ever had at the position in the sport.

1505
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever had this much. We're at

1506
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: a point now where, for the most part, we're really

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01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 2: good at evaluating quarterbacks in the draft. I mean, the

1508
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 2: guys that have been picked recently in the first round,

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01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: a great many of them have been very good. There's

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01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 2: a stretch coming towards the end of Manning and Roethlisberger

1511
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 2: and Brady, although Brady just ended recently, but even Rogers,

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01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: as he aged, where a lot of those first round

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01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: picks didn't hit. They weren't home runs.

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01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: I mean, the last five years, there's been a ton

1516
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 2: of home runs. When you think of the guys who've

1517
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 2: come out of the draft.

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01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, ready to go, ready to go?

1519
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. In twenty ten, top quarterbacks were making

1520
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: twenty millillion annually. Now it's fifty two point five. When

1521
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: will someone hit one hundred million dollars this decade.

1522
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think by the end of the decade.

1523
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the money is just going to keep

1524
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 2: going up on the TV.

1525
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 3: Yes, it's going to keep going out.

1526
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 4: Coler CAP's going to keep going up, all of that,

1527
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 4: and then you have to wonder what quarterback says, you

1528
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 4: know what, I don't need eighty. I'm good at eighty.

1529
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 4: Take that other two for the rest of my team.

1530
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 4: You know, I think that that's that would be the

1531
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 4: one thing that would be maybe prohibitive towards it. But

1532
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 4: I think that's definitely the direction it's going. This is

1533
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 4: one thing that I think is great for Browns fans

1534
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 4: to kind of think about because there was a time

1535
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 4: when I'm pretty sure we would have been on this list. Okay,

1536
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 4: So if the Commanders are no longer the NFL's most

1537
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 4: unstable franchise, who is twenty three Agents, Cardinals, nine Colts,

1538
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 4: four Texans, three Commanders too, Cowboys, won, Jets one, Raiders

1539
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 4: one no answer.

1540
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: To So most unstable mm hmm. I mean even the

1541
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: ones that they said are unstable or pretty stable. Yes,

1542
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 2: like the Bidwells aren't selling the Cardinals.

1543
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 4: There's no movement for that.

1544
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 2: Incompetent, fine, but not unstable.

1545
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 3: Sure, I think that's probably what it meant.

1546
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean forever it was the Raiders. It was

1547
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: the Raiders of the Chargers until they got stadiums.

1548
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's one among gms and front office leaders, whom

1549
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 4: do you trust the most? Brandon Bean of the Bills

1550
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 4: had three votes. He was number one. Others who received

1551
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 4: a vote, Quasia delfhol Mensa received a vote, as did

1552
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 4: our own Andrew Berry. Nice good humans both, Yes, very much,

1553
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 4: so this one a little lower down.

1554
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 2: Do you think Lanel Messi's MLS contract with includes a

1555
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 2: cut of the TV package and profit sharing for sponsors

1556
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 2: could become a trend in all sports, including the NFL. No,

1557
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 2: because you're never going to get a position where a

1558
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: league is in its infancy, still twenty some years old,

1559
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 2: trying to grow, and a player of that caliber can

1560
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: in soccer, he's not. It's the line from Dnarius Targaria.

1561
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to be as spoke in the wheel.

1562
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 2: I want to break the wheel.

1563
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: Wheel.

1564
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: He's the break the wheel guy.

1565
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 4: Yep, So that's no.

1566
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 2: The NFL is way way too far established on that front.

1567
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: Should the NFL allow private equity or international entities to

1568
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: buy a team. Ten of these voters there were what

1569
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 2: fifteen taken ten, one said no, nine said yes.

1570
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 4: Four had no answer.

1571
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: On that side of it. So that's the Saudi trust.

1572
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: Sure situation happened with golf and is happening with many

1573
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: that And by the way, that whole league that they built,

1574
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: that league they have over there is gonna be really good.

1575
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 2: Yes already is. They've got the amount of people they've

1576
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: signed already in basically two off seasons. Yeah, they got

1577
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: infinite cash. You can do whatever you want. Yeah, all right,

1578
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 2: very good. Coming up next, we'll play a little higher

1579
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 2: or lower, better or worse. She listened to Cleveland Browns Daily,

1580
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 2: brought to you by Bally Bette sports betting partner, Your

1581
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Now live in Ohio on a fifty ESPN.

1582
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally bet

1583
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,879
Speaker 1: coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1584
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: I'd be sure to catch the Kevin Stefanski showed to

1585
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 2: ninety seven was Z and Gerard on the University Hospitals

1586
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Radio Network coach and Marquis Oh, that's fun man, Marquisa.

1587
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 3: That's great.

1588
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to talk to news. Speaking of we

1589
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: have a fifty three now right.

1590
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 3: Play the first segment of the show.

1591
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 4: You're welcome. Well, the final decision, we didn't know if

1592
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 4: Maurice Hurt Mike Ford would be the one whose contract

1593
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 4: was solidated. We did discuss Maurice Hurst. Yes, and so

1594
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 4: Maurice Hurst he was the I think the last cut.

1595
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 4: My guess is Maurice Hurst will be back because you've

1596
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 4: got Jordan Kunashik and Alex right on this fifty three,

1597
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 4: both of whom will be going on injured reserve. That

1598
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 4: frees up two roster spots. I think one will be

1599
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 4: Maurice Hurst back the defense. The other I think will

1600
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 4: be on the offense, whether that's Michael Dunn or they

1601
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 4: bring in a veteran running back or maybe another guard

1602
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 4: that isn't Michael Dunn, but my guests would be Michael

1603
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 4: Dunn or a veteran running back would get that one.

1604
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 4: And then a lot of these guys. No, here's who

1605
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 4: was cut. Jalen Darden. I'll give you if I think

1606
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 4: they're a practice squad candidate or not. Jalen Darden, Yes,

1607
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 4: Dimitrixlton Yes, Mike Harley Junior Yes, Sam Kamara Yes, Tanner

1608
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 4: McAllister Yes, Lonnie Phelps Yes, Charlie Thomas Yes, Isaiah Thomas,

1609
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 4: Togyi Watkins all yes. And if kid York makes it

1610
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 4: all the way through, yes for him as well. So

1611
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 4: instead of giving yes or no, I just gave you

1612
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 4: the yeses.

1613
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: Good job. There you go. So it's ended up twenty three,

1614
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty.

1615
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 4: Seven, twenty three to twenty seven, right now, sure, initial

1616
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 4: fifty three kids, and you're gonna have two people off

1617
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 4: of that defense, Kunashikan, right, go to injured reserve. One

1618
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 4: will be replaced I'm thinking by Maurice Hurst, and then

1619
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 4: one will be replaced on an offensive side. My guess

1620
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 4: would be a guard or a running back. And then

1621
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 4: if it's not a guard, they will put a lot

1622
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 4: of guards on the practice squad. If it's not a

1623
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 4: running back, they'll put probably a couple of running backs

1624
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 4: Felton and then maybe a veteran as well on the

1625
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 4: practice squad.

1626
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the idea being it'll end up twenty four

1627
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: to twenty six.

1628
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 3: That's my guess.

1629
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, well more than a guess.

1630
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: When you're talking to the z no.

1631
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 4: Fee, pay attention to the scores, kids, Yeah, yeah, the totimes.

1632
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 2: It's just your big brain. Twenty three, twenty seven, it's

1633
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: just the big brain, buddy.

1634
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1635
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 2: Well, good job at you, very good job.

1636
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 4: I love Gibbe factor fiction.

1637
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 3: There'll be more offensive players than defensive players.

1638
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, fiction, That's exactly right, Gibbe.

1639
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 4: Very good, very good you been, buddy.

1640
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, it's been a little busier this week than

1641
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 3: I would have liked. I was kind of hoping for

1642
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: a little like I knew today would be a little crazy,

1643
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 3: but the whole week's been a little, a little busy here.

1644
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: So well, I don't know about you guys, but it's

1645
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 2: it's weird. I mean, I just think the way that

1646
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: the NFL does this calendar now is I don't I

1647
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 2: don't particularly like it.

1648
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I'll take it now, I know.

1649
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 4: But I understand.

1650
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 2: But the idea of playing Saturday, cutting down till Tuesday,

1651
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 2: a couple of practices off, and then play the next week,

1652
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 2: it's just I don't love the timeline of it all.

1653
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 3: I have no problem with it. Just trying to find

1654
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 3: Zaguraz he was on a tube in the middle of

1655
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 3: the weekend to do a roster podcast. Oh man, yeah,

1656
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 3: it was not exactly.

1657
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 4: With Michie we always go to Michigan Labor Day weekend.

1658
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you're saying that's where he will. That's right,

1659
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 2: he will in the past. Trying to find bodies in

1660
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: the past.

1661
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,799
Speaker 6: The middle of the weekend when we have our cutdown

1662
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 6: at like Saturday at four o'clock was not not ideal.

1663
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 3: I like having the entire weekend off.

1664
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 2: That's watch good good, pretty solid week for it. Not great, no,

1665
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 2: but pretty good. There's some good ones.

1666
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: So just an fy. This is what people are saying.

1667
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 4: Remember what you saw the tweet earlier about somebody talking

1668
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 4: about the volume and the levels and whatever. Supposedly you're

1669
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 4: really loud in there, Yes, you and there go through

1670
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 4: the stream like ten times loud as the two of

1671
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 4: us do. So they said that his ear drums pop

1672
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 4: when he talked about throwing your plate in the trash,

1673
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 4: which I know was you saying that?

1674
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,560
Speaker 3: And somebody else said it was gibbeh So there it is.

1675
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 2: There you go.

1676
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 3: All right, he's too strong, too basy.

1677
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 5: Every level, every level level, he's got it.

1678
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's just ball. It's just ball mixed

1679
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: with her.

1680
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, never lost, never lost, every level.

1681
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: I want championships that everything. Like it always feels with

1682
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 2: IRV like he's almost like he's like got his cheeks

1683
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 2: are full of some sort of like like Sunflyers brand

1684
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,879
Speaker 2: or something like yeah, like yeah tissue.

1685
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 3: So is he officially off of Better L Network? I'm

1686
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 3: assuming yeah, I think so. I mean that was kind

1687
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 3: of the way life is good.

1688
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 6: I will say this, like, of course I understand that

1689
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 6: Fox has their pregame show with Howie and Jimmy Johnson

1690
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 6: all these thousand people, but.

1691
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 3: Like, if you took that little group of guys and

1692
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:52,520
Speaker 3: put them out instead.

1693
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: Here's what you do.

1694
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 4: No, because they don't.

1695
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 3: Here's why, here's why.

1696
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 2: Here's why that woul won't happen, because that that show

1697
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: and the CBS version of it, they don't want chaos.

1698
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 4: They don't want headlines.

1699
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: They want something that they can put it to upfronts

1700
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: that they go to advertisers, that is glossed and clean.

1701
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 4: They don't need headlines coming out of there on those

1702
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 4: shows that hasn't accounted for Oh my god, correct, No, no, no,

1703
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 4: they don't want there are no surprises.

1704
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 2: They want no controversy on those shows. I'll tell you

1705
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 2: where you would want what I would want like IRV

1706
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:33,919
Speaker 2: Hoff and Steve or IRV Sherman and HAFF, some combination

1707
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: like that. I would actually love it on like what

1708
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: used to be inside the NFL, except on when it

1709
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: was on HBO. Now I don't even know where it is.

1710
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: It might be be on like CW or something. Now

1711
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 2: at one point it was on Showtime, but like a

1712
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: truly unfiltered NFL show where you could I did on

1713
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 2: board with that accentuate. I think there would be value

1714
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: in that, absolutely, But they just on those morning on

1715
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: those Sunday morning shows like I have. I think there's

1716
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 2: one last year where I watched for like twenty minutes

1717
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: and it was just the most common sense nonsense, nonsense.

1718
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,560
Speaker 2: And all those guys get paid bigly, Yes, yes, but

1719
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 2: that's just nothing.

1720
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 3: The best job is support.

1721
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: No, yeah, nothing to them.

1722
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 3: Guys.

1723
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 4: I just want to in world or maybe I should

1724
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 4: say Interstellar News. Okay, so there was a media that

1725
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 4: fell to the Earth and Papua New Guinea in twenty fourteen. Okay. Now,

1726
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 4: the professor and theoretical astrophysicist A.

1727
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 6: VI.

1728
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 4: Lowe at Harvard University says he and a team of

1729
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 4: scientists are one step closer making the determination after they

1730
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 4: retrieved suspected remnants of the medior, that these small metallic

1731
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,959
Speaker 4: objects are actually interstellar in origin. They are new alloys

1732
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 4: that have never been discovered historic discovery. It represents the

1733
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 4: first time humans put their hands on materials from a

1734
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 4: large object that arrived to Earth from outside of our

1735
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 4: solar system.

1736
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they're man made.

1737
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:58,879
Speaker 4: I wonder if there is any.

1738
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: Any sort of uh, if that is all a coincidence

1739
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 2: to the bug bite for me yesterday.

1740
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 4: My guess, is this going to be men in black?

1741
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 4: My guess as they are related?

1742
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think you could be this

1743
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: could be a men in black situation.

1744
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, real quick? Interesting? Yeah, all right with that? And

1745
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 3: maybe this is your last week playing higher lower. Maybe

1746
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 3: you'll be here next week, Maybe you won't. Yeah, who knows?

1747
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 3: Do you guys have time for one more headline? That's

1748
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 3: pure nightmare fuel.

1749
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 4: All we have.

1750
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 3: I think we're going to move higher loaded tomorrow. Is

1751
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 3: the way that this is trending right.

1752
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,839
Speaker 4: Neurosurgeon investigating mystery symptoms plucks a worm from a woman's

1753
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 4: brain in surgery.

1754
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 2: That think one went into my knee.

1755
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 4: You might have like straight in Quatto, end up living

1756
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 4: in the be could it's in play?

1757
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 3: Oh man, great prayers.

1758
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 2: I mean out here trying to serve the young gentleman yesterday,

1759
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: doing to put on a good practice. This is how

1760
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 2: I get repaid.

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01:22:54,280 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 6: Every level, unbelievable, every level. Uh, that's good, all right,

1762
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 6: let's do rapid fire higher lower. Let's great, friends, do

1763
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 6: you have enough? I just got something else. I mean,

1764
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,799
Speaker 6: it's fine, I don't really care. We can move it tomorrow.

1765
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 6: We've got bunny of time.

1766
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 4: Isn't it nice that we're at a stage with this

1767
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 4: team in this organization like the fifty three man.

1768
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, okay, okay, then let's let's have that

1769
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 2: conversation for a second. And you were You've been in

1770
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 2: this market for a very very long time. I don't

1771
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 2: know that everyone has adjusted to that, agreed. It feels

1772
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 2: like there are still people like making the biggest deal

1773
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 2: about the last guy on a roster, Like making a

1774
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 2: huge deal about Austin Watkins. Like a really nice guy,

1775
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: he said, and he had a really good help. He

1776
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: gets a job fine, But like.

1777
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 6: The Browns Daily YouTube chat board, a lot of unhappy

1778
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 6: people with Austin Watkins.

1779
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 3: Austin Watkins. I love Austin Watkins. Sure did we see

1780
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 3: a rep with the first team?

1781
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 4: No?

1782
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 2: No, And it was okay no, But it's so it's

1783
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: like this disport.

1784
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 3: I want him back.

1785
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 4: I want him back, and I think it's probably a

1786
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 4: good chans to get on the practice qu Yes, I

1787
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 4: am a big fan.

1788
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 3: I'll throw out a name that he made our preseason fun.

1789
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 4: Anybody listening will remember or who was paying attention during

1790
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:27,839
Speaker 4: some of the darc times. Cason Williams. You remember Cason Williams,

1791
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 4: six ' to three receiver for Seattle. He led the

1792
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 4: league in receiving in a particular preseason. Austin Watkins did

1793
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 4: as well. And I hope Bostin Watkins goes on to

1794
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 4: have a very nice career.

1795
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 3: He was six to two.

1796
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 4: They cut him. We had first waiver prior to we

1797
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 4: claim him. Everybody thought he was going to be our savior.

1798
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 4: He would have nine catches for eighty four yards with

1799
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns. He would finish his career with ten

1800
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 4: catches for ninety two yards. I mean, it's just the

1801
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 4: odds are against these guys, but you certainly like what

1802
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 4: you saw Austin wains him in the in the program,

1803
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 4: and people are mad that they kept David Bell. Look,

1804
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 4: David Bell has college tape and tape against better players

1805
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 4: than Austin Watkins does of him dominating, and it's one year.

1806
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 4: They're gonna give him, probably this year as well, to

1807
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 4: see if he's got a little bit of juice and

1808
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 4: then they can make a decision on that. But they're

1809
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 4: not just giving up on the guy who was the

1810
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 4: Big ten receiver of the year, was a Blitanikoff finalist, Like.

1811
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 3: Hey, you just don't do that. They're just not doing that.

1812
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 2: No, But that's that's a little bit what happens because

1813
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: you have you know, you had largely fifteen years of

1814
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: not being seeing good football.

1815
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 4: Who was it?

1816
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 3: How you do this?

1817
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 2: I mean I used to have conversations with Amy's relatives.

1818
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 2: It would be like this was like cutdown Day was

1819
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: like Christmas because it was like, well, who's the Steelers cut.

1820
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 2: Let's go get everybody to the Patriots. Yes, everybody the

1821
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 2: Patriots cut. Let's sign all of them. We're long past that,

1822
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 2: way past that.

1823
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 3: I was talking to Jacob Square. It is excuse me

1824
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 3: about that? And was the guy was the wide receiver?

1825
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 3: Was it was it Lens Josh Lenz? Yeah, it was

1826
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 3: a I think I owed you Taco Bell. Yeah.

1827
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 4: There's so many tackle mills that you owe me right

1828
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 4: now as we sit here today.

1829
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 3: But I was on board of Lens. I'm like he

1830
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 3: was the he was the training camp Darling. Yeah, Carlton Mitchell.

1831
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean someone has to play at the end of

1832
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 2: these games, Darling.

1833
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 3: He was down that road never ever ever you were

1834
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 3: a Carlton Mitchell guy. Damon she he Giuseppe was.

1835
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 4: A good story, arling guy.

1836
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 2: Was that a Was that the hard knocks here?

1837
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1838
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: He took him.

1839
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 3: He took a kick back to the house. Yeah, the

1840
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 3: whole team ran down the field.

1841
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 4: Carlton Mitchell career stats three catches, thirty one yards.

1842
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 2: I remember that was pre cod and we would see

1843
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 2: uh like Damon in her every day the whole time.

1844
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1845
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: Wasn't that Zoe Saimon a tryout Miami?

1846
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that or run track?

1847
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1848
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 2: I think he was at a tryout in Miami down there.

1849
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. He needed like money for like the cab fare

1850
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 3: or something.

1851
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Oh.

1852
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you remember he was outside the buildinger where

1853
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 3: he is like with shoes just hanging out, give me

1854
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 3: a shot. Yeah.

1855
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's that type of stuff like it's a

1856
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: long camp. It's the practices are done to get the

1857
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: people who matter most sharp for the regular season. The

1858
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: games are not right, the games are not used.

1859
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 3: I think Austin Watkins can play in this league.

1860
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: And I hope I heard saying that. I'm just saying

1861
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: like it was like, I hope he gets a chance.

1862
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 2: This wasn't cutting Jarvis Landry, No, right, and by the way,

1863
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 2: and who's not in the league. Yeah, which is quick

1864
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: falls just wild, really quick. He played through a lot.

1865
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: He did a lot more than I think was is known.

1866
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 2: He's a that guy will always be elite in my book. Yeah,

1867
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 2: anytime like the boys will say like who's your who's

1868
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 2: your favorite this, what's your favorite this? Like that's he's

1869
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: always one of He's always a guy I mentioned it

1870
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 2: is one of my favorites to be around. Is Jarvis Alzheimer. Yeah,

1871
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 2: but yeah, that's that's what happens. Is you've got you're

1872
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 2: playing four We played four games this year. There's a

1873
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 2: huge amount of all of those games that human beings

1874
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 2: have to go play and DTR was great and he

1875
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 2: slung it all over the place. Someone's gonna catch him.

1876
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something to throw the DTR made

1877
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 4: while he was getting smacked by Charles Amenah, who would

1878
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 4: have been?

1879
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 2: It was going to be?

1880
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 4: Then to Tilman over the middle on a third and

1881
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 4: fifteen over the linebacker stood in the pocket, took a

1882
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 4: blick and delivered a strike. Was a big time throw.

1883
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 4: That was a big time throw.

1884
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: Tilman's gonna be big time too. Yes, When does he

1885
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 2: get his new number? Well, yeah, maybe we go ahead.

1886
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 2: I guess he has in short order one, so much

1887
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,560
Speaker 2: more to come. You're listen to Cleveland Rods Daily on

1888
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 2: eight fifty sp A Cleveland.

1889
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Beck coming

1890
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,679
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1891
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 4: Well, there you go.

1892
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: The initial fifty three is sent. There will be some

1893
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 2: adjustments to this before you get to Cincinnati a week

1894
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: from Sunday, but for now, there is a fifty three. Yep,

1895
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 2: we've reached that point.

1896
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 3: Lady, What do you make any of it? Okay? I

1897
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 3: think you've been a perfect uh seven for seven on

1898
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 3: screwing that up. Today I hit it and then said, yep,

1899
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,560
Speaker 3: I know he's in the middle of talking doing a

1900
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 3: read for a partner. No, there a no, and all

1901
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: you hear is yep, No, I wasn't partner.

1902
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 2: Are you out of here?

1903
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 5: Yep, you're in the room.

1904
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 3: Give me yep, give me's.

1905
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 5: In the room.

1906
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he's gonna go die. This is he's

1907
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 4: gonna go die on another hill buried underneath an avalanche

1908
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 4: of facts. For the second time unless a week. Yep. Yes,

1909
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 4: he was talking about the fifty three man roster. And

1910
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 4: then it was gonna change, and I was like, yep,

1911
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 4: that's right. These working conditions are starting to become possible.

1912
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 3: Oh god, so good news. You put in your four

1913
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 3: hours of the day. You're done.

1914
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 4: There you go. You see what I mean, by the way,

1915
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 4: I'm not good to go, You're not because trade camp. Inside,

1916
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna interview the head coach of the Browns and

1917
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 4: Marquis good a show, Thank you, and a show tonight.

1918
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 4: You're welcome. I'll see you guys.

1919
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 3: He's out eight hour day to day.

1920
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: He's out. Wow, we're back tomorrow. He'll be back for

1921
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 2: two might still up. The next level is Nextally, the

1922
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Speaker 2: Brown's daily eight fifty ESPO

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