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Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm just about that action Bosso eleven trained men face

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Speaker 2: to face on the field of play, like the Barians

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Speaker 3: Thanks on its.

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Speaker 1: One quiet a time ars large.

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Speaker 4: See that thing up there, that's a school board. This

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Speaker 4: is probably this morning all the time. You ain't knowing

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Speaker 4: us no more? Now up, all right, hit that horn, babe,

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Speaker 4: let's day it. What's up? Everybody? Welcome to the Action

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Speaker 4: Network Podcast. I am your host, Evan Abramson. Today I

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Speaker 4: am joined by the one the only Action Networks NFL

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Speaker 4: expert Chris Raybon. Raybon, what's good? How you doing man?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing really good, Evan.

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Speaker 3: Excited for the start free Agency that we're gonna get

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Speaker 3: into a bunch of deals today and.

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Speaker 1: Kind of talk about the implication still looking.

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Speaker 4: Forward noon Eastern today, Monday, March tenth. Free Agency basically

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Speaker 4: opened and a little bit of chaos, but we seem

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Speaker 4: to have found some level ground. So these are some

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Speaker 4: of just the deals that have just flown in so

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Speaker 4: far today that I think it's worth rattling off and

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Speaker 4: then we're going to go kind of one on one

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Speaker 4: by one here talk about fantasy betting, all different types

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Speaker 4: of connections to each of these deals. But so Godwin

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Speaker 4: goes back to Tampa. J. C. Horn and the Panthers,

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Speaker 4: I believe like the highest deal ever for a cornerback potentially,

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Speaker 4: I mean some ridiculous money for horn Kin, Latta Washington

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Speaker 4: I thought was super interesting. Doloman too, Chicago. Now we're

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Speaker 4: going to talk about the Bears offensive line in a

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Speaker 4: little bit, but they've completely revamped it, and the Doloman

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Speaker 4: move I think is really interesting. Splained to New England

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Speaker 4: with Moses, so they're kind of throwing money all over

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Speaker 4: the place. And we're going to talk about Carlton Davis

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Speaker 4: as well in a little bit, who also went to

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Speaker 4: New England, just revamping the entire team and obviously the

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Speaker 4: defense with Vrabel there and then DJ Reid which we

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Speaker 4: had talked about on our last podcast going to Detroit

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Speaker 4: and we thought that was kind of one of the

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Speaker 4: biggest moves they needed to make to kind of solidify

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Speaker 4: some things on the back end there. But I'll give

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Speaker 4: it to you with those names, we're gonna hit on

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Speaker 4: them as well in a little bit. Any thoughts overall, Raybon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Moses to New England, you know, anything

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Speaker 3: to upgrade that line for Drake may You know, he

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Speaker 3: so I think that could be an underrated move.

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Speaker 1: Godwin going back to Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: I really don't think this Tampa Bay Buck team is

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Speaker 3: that far off from being a super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 1: Now you're gonna question obviously.

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Speaker 3: You know the departure William Cohen, but to keep that

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Speaker 3: offense together as good as Mayfield was playing last year,

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Speaker 3: and you know, they made some moves on defense as well,

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Speaker 3: which we'll talk about. So I think Tampa Bay being

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Speaker 3: able to get Godwin back is really big.

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Speaker 1: And then you know Carolina J C. Horn. I mean,

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Speaker 3: But also you know that defense really against a run

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Speaker 4: I just think Tampa has a shot as well because

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Speaker 4: the division's relatively weak. I think New Orleans is gonna

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Speaker 4: think that's pretty dangerous for Baker. And I think Bucky,

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Speaker 4: So that was kind of the deal of the weekend

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Speaker 3: I mean this, first of all, let's with the AFC

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 3: But I will say, you know, it all depends on

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Speaker 3: But I will say this, it is interesting because they

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Speaker 3: And then they commit one hundred and fifty mil to him.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. I feel like you're like reading my notes

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Speaker 4: Ninety five routes last year, three point two yards per

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Speaker 4: interesting what they'll do. Also, if you think about it,

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Speaker 4: really doesn't make sense for fields to go back there.

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Speaker 4: I mean thirty second I believe last in the NFL

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Speaker 4: to me, it's they've they've got to go somewhere else,

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Speaker 4: And Rogers is probably they. You know, after you see

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Speaker 4: well this is more interesting than it was ten minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: I just don't want to mention this.

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Speaker 3: The one thing about Rogers, I do worry about, you know,

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Speaker 3: if if you keep this team together with Pickings through

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Speaker 3: You kind of want somebody who's gonna swing it deep,

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Speaker 3: I don't really want to see that. So Pittsburgh's kind

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Speaker 3: that out. Rogers with that, with that arm strength, it's

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Speaker 3: he could still he could still get the ball downfield,

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Speaker 3: but definitely it's not at you know, where it was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even with you saying that, and as I'm thinking,

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Speaker 4: I was trying to come up with a quarterback that

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Speaker 4: Doesn't feel like that that guy's available in the market,

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Speaker 4: think Russ is the right move to bring back, because

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Speaker 4: So all right, let's keep rolling here. Gino Smith Seattle

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Speaker 4: with Gino. I mean, personally, I completely get it from

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Speaker 4: like Shador? You know, Cam's probably gonna be gone? And

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Speaker 4: then you look at the other options, like and Gino

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Speaker 4: though it still probably slots them in that fourth spot

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Speaker 4: in the AFC West. But I'll let you start first,

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Speaker 4: and then I have another opinion. People have been talking

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Speaker 4: feels like it makes sense, but I'm curious your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Gino to the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's interesting for the Raiders because this is

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Speaker 3: a guy who has been has that three straight winning seasons,

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Speaker 3: so he's going to upgrade this quarterback position for them.

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Speaker 3: But as you mentioned, there's still the fourth best team

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Speaker 3: in the division in terms of the roster, and Gino

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Speaker 1: You know, there's an argument that he's the fourth best quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I mean, bo Nicks had a rookie season that I

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton's offense this season, you're you know, you're kind

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Speaker 3: of looking at getting a lot better at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And coach, which are two very important spots.

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Speaker 3: And it might not be a needle mover or this

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Speaker 3: division just gonna turn into I mean, it probably is

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Speaker 3: going to just be a ridiculous gauntlet given the quality

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Speaker 4: I just think the numbers are Gino are a little complicated.

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Speaker 3: Mean, he should like it because he's gonna get He

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Speaker 4: Team at this point with Jake Bobo next to him though,

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Speaker 1: So, uh, Seattle's really in a tough spot. Not a

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Speaker 3: Really looking to to back at this point. In like,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if Donald seems.

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Speaker 3: Like a lateral move to me, Like you know, Gino,

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Speaker 1: We saw what Donald was at the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: So if you're trying to do better than Gino, then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I still like San Francisco. I think, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I just wonder if they're a dark horse to maybe

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Speaker 4: I got to tell you something, Raybound, Sometimes timing is

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much it actually raises the floor.

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Speaker 4: We just talked about that, ironically enough, ten seconds ago.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a lateral move. So do I like,

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Speaker 4: you know, the concept of the deal, like, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: I just you know that that does solve the quarterback issue.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's better that.

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Speaker 3: You know, if they had struck out there, they would

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Speaker 1: I'll put it that way.

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Speaker 4: I haven't looked at Twitter yet, but I'm sure Mina

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Speaker 4: All Right, Davante Adams, we talked about it a second ago.

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Speaker 4: That's the move for the Rams. That's the you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's it is interesting Deontae Adams, you know,

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Speaker 3: Adams just slows it down a little bit. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you got you're gonna have alpha in Nikula, who's capable of,

434
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Speaker 3: you know.

435
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Speaker 1: Leading the league in targets.

436
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 3: Stafford's older at quarterbacks, So I do like that he'll

437
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 3: be playing indoors. But do worry a little bit that

438
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 3: you know, new surroundings just you know, a little bit older. Uh,

439
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 3: this could be the start of a bigger downturn for Adams.

440
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Speaker 1: About what about you? What do you think?

441
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 4: And the only thing I say is, I mean this

442
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 4: is a fountain of youth moment potentially for Adams. I

443
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 4: mean it's where he wants to be. It feels like

444
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Speaker 4: the Rams. I mean he wanted to be on the

445
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 4: West Coast and he wanted to make twenty million dollars.

446
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 4: I feel like that's what we've heard, that's what he got.

447
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 4: The one thing that does worry me a little bit,

448
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 4: and I was looking at Fantasy points, which I know

449
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 4: we all use, and looking at some of the data

450
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Speaker 4: that kind of surprised me, Like you look at separation

451
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 4: score and win rate, and I didn't expect to see

452
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Speaker 4: Cooper Cup in a better spot last year, especially out wide,

453
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: than I did Adams. Now, Adams had a way better

454
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Speaker 4: hero ball reception rate, like the things where he's being

455
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Speaker 4: covered but can make the catch anyway. And it felt

456
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 4: like we were seeing Cooper Cup get just a little

457
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 4: bit older as this season progress. Now, maybe that's them

458
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 4: being more obsessed with Puka Nakua, Maybe there's other things

459
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 4: involved there. But I was a little bit you know,

460
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Speaker 4: taken aback when looking at that, because I thought I

461
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Speaker 4: was going to see the opposite, even though you talked

462
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Speaker 4: about it. Adams more of a man guy, cut, more

463
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 4: of a zone guy, finding you know, the spots, but

464
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Speaker 4: not something I expected to see. Now, I will say,

465
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Speaker 4: without Cup and without d Rob, there's gonna be targets

466
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Speaker 4: to go around, and you've got to pay attention to Kyron.

467
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 4: You've got to pay attention to Puka. So there he

468
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 4: is going to see, you know, a lot of one

469
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Speaker 4: on one so that that's gotta be good for him.

470
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Speaker 4: But I do feel like there is a motivation factor

471
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Speaker 4: that you'll see at least early in the year, and

472
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Speaker 4: I think we saw it like the first game or

473
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Speaker 4: two with the Jets, when he was like, oh, this

474
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Speaker 4: could be fun and then the season basically collapsed in

475
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Speaker 4: his eyes. So I do think starting from scratch, you know,

476
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Speaker 4: zero zero beginning of the year with a veteran quarterback

477
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Speaker 4: and a team I think you and I agree both

478
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Speaker 4: like one to two in the division and then Cooper Cup.

479
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Speaker 4: This is just kind of interesting. There's some odds out

480
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Speaker 4: there in terms of next team. I mean, if you

481
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Speaker 4: just look at the top five options or so, it's Pittsburgh, Detroit,

482
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Speaker 4: New England, k C. Washington is kind of the top

483
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Speaker 4: options for him right now. Just it'll be interesting to

484
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Speaker 4: see who values him based off of what number they

485
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Speaker 4: give him, because at this point, I mean, they're you know,

486
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Speaker 4: they're gonna have to find a partner that is interested

487
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Speaker 4: in putting him in like the two slot or so.

488
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Speaker 4: Uh So we'll see where Cooper Cup goes. But any

489
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Speaker 4: quick thoughts there, I.

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Speaker 3: Would I would like to see Washington would be interesting.

491
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Speaker 3: I think Cup could be your you know, kind of

492
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Speaker 3: two three guy like Washington. You know, you got Debo,

493
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 3: you got mclauren, so you know, some days Cup will

494
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: be the three. Uh And Pittsburgh also because I mentioned it,

495
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 3: they need a slot guy.

496
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Speaker 1: I know Cup isn't the most shifties.

497
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: Moves in a little bit, but he's still a guy

498
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Speaker 3: that can kind of sit in the zone and a

499
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Speaker 3: little bit different from you know, you expect metcalf and

500
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Speaker 3: and Pickens to you know, beat one on ones and

501
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: you know, draw coverage over the top, and you know,

502
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 3: if they're both on the field, then whoever's whoever else

503
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: you know underneath is gonna have openings because you can't

504
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: can only cover so many guys with two with two

505
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 3: guys or more on defense. So, uh, I think Pittsburgh

506
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Speaker 3: and Washington are two teams that i'd look out for,

507
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: uh with Cup that I'd be interested in seeing him

508
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Speaker 3: play them in twenty twenty five.

509
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Speaker 4: I'm in that would sure get a lot of news

510
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: considering they both just added wide receivers as well, so

511
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 4: that would be a complete overhaul. But that's fun, all right,

512
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: Let's keep rolling here. So you wrote in Jalen Moore,

513
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Speaker 4: who I know just happened a bit ago. Uh, San

514
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Speaker 4: Francisco to Kansas City. I mean Kansas City needs to

515
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Speaker 4: final offensive lineman. So I mean this was a situation

516
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Speaker 4: which basically lost in the Super Bowl in a lot

517
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Speaker 4: of ways. I mean the pressure was unreal and they had,

518
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Speaker 4: you know, also lost Tony, so they needed to figure

519
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Speaker 4: out ways to fill the line. So Jalen Moore, what

520
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Speaker 4: do you what are your thoughts?

521
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Speaker 1: I think it could be.

522
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Speaker 3: It has the potential to be a great signing for

523
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Speaker 3: Kansas City. You know, once Ronnie Stanley was obviously gonna

524
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Speaker 3: be the idea. But you know, once he re signed,

525
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Speaker 3: you're gonna you had to pivot and you had to

526
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Speaker 3: get a guy that you can put at tackle, and

527
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Speaker 3: I think more you know, the one thing with him

528
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Speaker 3: is he's just never played more than two hundred and

529
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Speaker 3: seventy when snaps in a season, But just the last

530
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Speaker 3: couple of years he's been very good in the reserve

531
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Speaker 3: role and at times last year there was no drop

532
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Speaker 3: off from him from Trent Williams to him last year,

533
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Speaker 3: and he did play. That was the two hundred and

534
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Speaker 3: seventy one steps season. Last year he was pretty good.

535
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Speaker 3: He ranked in the top twenty five in terms of

536
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Speaker 3: PFF grade among one hundred and forty one qualified tackles.

537
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Speaker 3: So it just has to kind of translate that to

538
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Speaker 3: a larger role. But you know, Kansas City is a

539
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Speaker 3: good place for that to happen. I think when you

540
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Speaker 3: get a guy with some talent that's already been proven

541
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Speaker 3: in this league, and now you put him around reading

542
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: Mahomes and these guys, I would I would think that

543
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: he works out just fine for Kansas City. So I

544
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Speaker 3: think that that has the potential to be a really

545
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Speaker 3: big get because, like you said, they needed they needed

546
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Speaker 3: to tackle in Tony, you know, moving him from the

547
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 3: interior out to tackle that really messed up multiple things.

548
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: It was, you know, they didn't have the size they

549
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Speaker 3: needed on the tackle spot. That it was a you know,

550
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 3: they roomed their interior run blocking like it was. Yeah,

551
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: it was a disaster. So this this move for Kansas City.

552
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 3: I know maybe a lot of people aren't that familiar

553
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 3: with Jalen Moore because again he was backing up Trent

554
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: Williams there in San Francisco for the last four years.

555
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: But potentially a really big get three hundred and eleven

556
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: pound or twenty seven years old.

557
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: Six foot four. So watch out for Jalen Moore on

558
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: the Chiefs this year. That could be used.

559
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: And the other one they've bet the thirty first pick.

560
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 4: A few mocks looking at Josh Connery from Oregon offensive tackle.

561
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: So I do think they're gonna try to address the

562
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 4: offensive line in the draft as well. Now every year

563
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 4: you don't get somebody in the even in the first

564
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Speaker 4: round that is like ready ready, ready, Like there might

565
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 4: be like a moment of trying to learn, but nobody

566
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 4: better to learn with than Patrick Mahomes there. So I

567
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: do think they're going to get more people on the

568
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Speaker 4: line to help out, all right. To me, this next

569
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Speaker 4: one we're gonna talk about, and we had discussed with

570
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 4: DJ Reid a little bit ago as well, but Carlton

571
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 4: Davis moving from Detroit to New England now next to

572
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 4: Christian Gonzales, Oh boy, I mean, Mike Rabel really doing

573
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: a good job reworking that New England defense. I'll let

574
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: you start. But to me, in the division with Josh

575
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 4: Allen after getting that massive deal, we'll talk about him

576
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: a little bit here. You need to find people to

577
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: be able to guard wide receivers and maybe nobody better

578
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 4: in this class.

579
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the way Wood right now probably has set up

580
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: the best to be the number two team in the AFCs.

581
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: Because interesting, Carlton, because if you look at it, all right,

582
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: you mentioned it. Carlton Davis Christian Gonzalez both top twenty

583
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: one in PFF grade last year, Go Dallas was number thirteen.

584
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 3: Davis was number twenty one, and he's a guy who

585
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 3: can play man.

586
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: You can play his zone as well.

587
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 3: And when you look at New England and you look

588
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 3: at what Mike Rabel has done in the past with Tennessee,

589
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: he was one of the best coaches against the spread

590
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: as an underdog. He continuously had the Titans outperforming expectations

591
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 3: and that was a lot of the times with Ryan

592
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: Tannehill or worse at quarterbacks. So you're gonna have guys

593
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: that can cover, You're gonna have a defense, and you're

594
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 3: gonna have a coach, and you're gonna have a quarterback

595
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: that you know. To me, I think I think New

596
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: England is setting up to be very underrated. They could

597
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: keep making moves and I hype could continue to build.

598
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: But either way, I wouldn't hesitate to to kind of

599
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: get ahead of, you know, backing New England and be in,

600
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: you know, bullish on the Patriots this year because I

601
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 3: have a lot of respect for Rabel. I think he's

602
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 3: going to succeed whatever the expectations are heading into the year.

603
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 3: And having two guys that can cover that well and

604
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: a quarterback sometimes that's really all you need, you know,

605
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: like you to win to win eight, nine ten games,

606
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: or I shouldn't even say nine to ten games plus

607
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: you know, be a be a winning team. So yeah,

608
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: I think this is a great move for the New

609
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: England Patriots. Davis, you know, he kind of was under

610
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: the radar last year. I think he played better than

611
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: a lot of people thought that whole Lian defense did so.

612
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: But Davis is he was good on Tampa Bay and

613
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: he was good on Detroit last year. So yeah, I

614
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: like to move for the Patriots. I really like it.

615
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: I mean last year we always said was Drake May,

616
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: but every week because we realized that he's a good quarterback,

617
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: we realized that he was a playmaker and they just

618
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 4: needed more pieces, and so I think getting him the

619
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: ball more on the defensive side, I love this move.

620
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: I mean not to really simplify it, but I mean

621
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Speaker 4: they didn't allow a ton of passing touchdowns. They had

622
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 4: a decent completion percentage on their defense, but when you

623
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: look at it, I mean, believe what you want about

624
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: passer rating, but ninety seven last year allowed seventh highest

625
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: in the NFL. They were thirtieth in dropback EPA and

626
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: drop back success rate, so they really needed some help.

627
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: Around Gonzales, and I think this is a really big

628
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: move and they're going to do other things. They got

629
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 4: Moses as well, and I think they're going to really

630
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 4: you know, work on that defensive line to get to

631
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Speaker 4: the quarterback, to make it easier on these quarterbacks as well.

632
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 4: But I really do like the move. So to me,

633
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: it's a move inside that division is as well with

634
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: Tua and Al and whoever the hell the Jets get.

635
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: But I think it actually is nice. Okay, So you

636
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: want to talk about his son Raddick here. We were

637
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: talking about Tampa Bay earlier. So he goes from the Jets,

638
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: which I guess you can't even you know, really call

639
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: him a Jet much there, but to Tampa Bay, which

640
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: we have seen a lot of defensive linemen have success

641
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: in Tampa Bay, and I feel like Reddick might be

642
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: on that list.

643
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Speaker 1: And I think you agree, yeah, absolutely.

644
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: You know Tampa Bay again, they're not far off. You know,

645
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: their offense, we talked about it, Godwin Evans, Bucky Irving,

646
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: Ayton McMillan, Baker playing well, how could you forget out

647
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: the tackles? So Tampa Bay on offense I think is

648
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: pretty much set. Willam Cohen Weaving is probably the most

649
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Speaker 3: worries fome thing. But we saw this two years in

650
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Speaker 3: a row. Canals left. We thought, oh man, that might hurt,

651
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Speaker 3: and it didn't. So we'll see how that goes. But

652
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Speaker 3: defensively is where I think Tampa Bay needed to make

653
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Speaker 3: some upgrades. Now their defense is not even that far

654
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Speaker 3: off either. There's some town on that defense as well.

655
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Speaker 3: So just adding to the pass rush, you know, because

656
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Speaker 3: I think the secondary has some pieces, just so just

657
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: adding to that pass rush, I think is what really

658
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: could put Tampa Bay over the edge. And you have

659
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: a situation where, you know, we saw it with San

660
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: Francisco this year where they just got really hurt and

661
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: it kind of knocked one of those contenders, those top

662
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: contenders out, you know, in the NFC, you have another

663
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: year like that. Maybe it's Detroit this year, maybe it's

664
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Speaker 3: maybe it's the Niners again, maybe it's Philly who gets injured.

665
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: And I think Tampa Bay is right there potentially in position.

666
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: So the more pass rush helped they get, the better.

667
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: So I do like kind of buying low on a

668
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: guy who's very, very talented and could really upgrade your

669
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Speaker 3: pass rush and reddit.

670
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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm crazy, but I do kind of feel like,

671
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Speaker 4: So Tampa Bay is nineteen and fifty three in the draft,

672
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: I like them to go defense. So when I start

673
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: to see those markets, it's probably something I'll look at.

674
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Speaker 4: But they're slated to take potentially Jahad Campbell, linebacker, Alabama nineteen,

675
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: Jack Sawyer, Ohio State at fifty three. So I do

676
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: feel like, yeah, offense looks just fine, especially getting back

677
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Speaker 4: when paying him that money. I feel like they do

678
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: still have to address the defense and this is a

679
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: good start. All right, One more here before we get

680
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Speaker 4: to our next section. Josh Allen, I mean, giving him

681
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 4: the boat, giving him everything he needed, giving them all

682
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Speaker 4: the money, the most money we've ever seen. I mean,

683
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: it was like three hundred and thirty million dollars. But

684
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Speaker 4: the one thing it does do, and Buffalo's done this

685
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Speaker 4: over the past like four or five days, which is

686
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 4: re upping a lot of their players, giving them a

687
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: ton of money, and what it feels like kind of

688
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 4: running stuff back. So I mean, what do you feel

689
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Speaker 4: like overall with the fact, obviously you can't be mad

690
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Speaker 4: with johnsh Allen getting this much money and you know,

691
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Speaker 4: staying in Buffalo for the next you know, decade or so.

692
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: But thoughts on the amount of money and the extension.

693
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's ridiculous. He's worth it though I mean ridiculous.

694
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Speaker 3: I mean he's ridiculously could so he deserves that ridiculous salary.

695
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: But you know, from a from a percentage of the

696
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Speaker 3: cat standpoint, you know, this year, I think it's going

697
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: to be very important because Josh Allen is I believe,

698
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: thirteenth in percent of cap as we record this for

699
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, and Joe Burrow's number one at you know,

700
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: just over twenty four percent. You also have Lamar Mahomes

701
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: and Jalen Hurts in that four through six spots all

702
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: round above twenty two percent, whereas Allen's just under twenty percent.

703
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: So you know, I think you need to if you're Buffalo,

704
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: make sure you're maximizing him because this window, you know

705
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: it sometimes it feels like it's closing a little, and

706
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: we saw that Kansas City is vulnerable. You know, they

707
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: are kind of running it back. I do think they

708
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: need to add like another element here at something something's missing.

709
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: But I think they were onto something with kind of

710
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: spreading the ball around. You know, they went to a

711
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: run heavier offense. I thought they were very well schemed

712
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: for most of the year, so I try I just think, yeah,

713
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: they still need to make a splash. But you know,

714
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Speaker 3: for Allen to be thirteenth on that list in terms

715
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: of percentage of cap for a QB for twenty twenty five,

716
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Speaker 3: I think this year is very important for the Bills.

717
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Speaker 4: One thing I'll say about that, and I had looked

718
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: this up before the Super Bowl, but Mahomes I believe,

719
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 4: moved up maybe like ten spots or so to number

720
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Speaker 4: five this year, which we were talking about that Mahomes

721
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: moving up to that fifth slot in terms of salary

722
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: cap percentage was gonna make it more difficult on Kansas

723
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Speaker 4: City and they were gonna have to do some chess

724
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 4: to try to figure it out, and that's just gonna

725
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: get harder. So I think you're right that that window

726
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 4: of like a year or so, and that's why they're

727
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 4: signing these guys to extensions and they're trying to move

728
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: money around to really make some opportunities here, because once

729
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: you get into that top five zone, it just becomes

730
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Speaker 4: really difficult. And nobody knows that more than number one

731
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Speaker 4: on the list. Joe Burrow. Okay, so let's move on

732
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747
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Speaker 4: with some news here. The Jets have signed two years

748
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 4: forty million dollars thirty million guaranteed to Justin Fields, who

749
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: I'm guessing is now the starting quarterback of the New

750
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 4: York Jets.

751
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 3: Look at this, Hello, hello, you do yeah, this is

752
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: It's not really an exciting move, you know. You know,

753
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: this is a team that they had Aaron Rodgers and

754
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: Tyrod Taro last year. I mean, just this is this

755
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: Jets team. You know, they lose DJ Reid. I just

756
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: think they, you know, they looked a lot better heading

757
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: into twenty twenty three when Rodgers had just come there

758
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: and before he you know, messed up his achilles, and

759
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: then even heading into twenty twenty four when said, okay,

760
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: Rodgers is going to be back and healthy, and you know,

761
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: you kind of looked at the team and said their

762
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: defense was going to be elite. And now Rodgers this year,

763
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Speaker 3: So now I think there's just a lot more question marks.

764
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Speaker 1: Justin Fields.

765
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Speaker 3: I just think that he's not going to be a

766
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: needle mover compared to like Rogers, and honestly, I don't

767
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: know how much even better than Tyrod Taylor that he

768
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: will be. So that's interesting. I get it from the Jets.

769
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: It's a swing on a high up side quarterback. So

770
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 3: I don't hate it, but just in looking at that vision,

771
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of cements that, you know, this

772
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: Patriots team is on the rise, and I think, you know,

773
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: the Patriots have the probably the second best quarterback in

774
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: that division at this point. No disrespected too, but I

775
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: really like what I saw out of Great May last year.

776
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, he got the we got the worst

777
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: quarterback in the division. You got a guy who got

778
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: bench for Russell Wilson. Davonte is gone. I mean, yet,

779
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: it's not hard to get excited about that one, at

780
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: least for this year.

781
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: I guess my two thoughts just hearing about it right

782
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: now would be the draft. So they've got the seventh slot,

783
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 4: you would assume this would I mean, there's been talks

784
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: about them moving up to one. Seven to one is

785
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: a really difficult thing to do compared to like the

786
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: Giants they move wanted to move from three to one.

787
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: So maybe this takes them out of it. And then

788
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: they want to look at McMillan at seven to help

789
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 4: fields out. And I think the other side of it

790
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 4: is Garrett Wilson, like, this is not the quarterback Garrett

791
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 4: Wilson wanted to see. I mean, he's, you know, not

792
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 4: the most accurate passer. Pittsburgh purposely didn't pass on purpose

793
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 4: with him back there because he had other skills. I

794
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: feel like we're a year away from Garrett Wilson getting

795
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 4: ultimately pissed off, triple teamed and being like, get me

796
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: the heck out of here. But to me, that's that,

797
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: you know. I like the upside, I like the running

798
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 4: in the new age quarterback. I feel like he brings

799
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: another angle. I just haven't seen the duel that I

800
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: think you and I look for in some of these quarterbacks.

801
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: He just hasn't had it. So it's an interesting move

802
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: given the market. It's probably the right move for right now.

803
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 4: But listen, thirty million guaranteed two years for forty it

804
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: probably means one year for thirty and then we'll figure

805
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 4: it out. But interesting move nonetheless. Okay, I have Trey

806
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Speaker 4: Hendrickson listed here. I mean, I don't think there's much

807
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: news there. I think we're kind of waiting to see

808
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Speaker 4: where he goes. I think a few books have some

809
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 4: odds up on some future locations, but I think without

810
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 4: knowing anything there, we assume he probably won't be in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: But we'll wait for that domino to drop. Any other thoughts.

812
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's obviously going to make a big

813
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: difference wherever he goes.

814
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, would love to see, you know,

815
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Speaker 3: a contender get him, maybe like a Washington or somebody

816
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: like that. But wherever he goes, especially if it's a

817
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: content you know, Buffalo, I mean, that would be a

818
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: great move I think for Buffalo if they can squeeze

819
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: him under the cap. But yeah, he's he's one of

820
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Speaker 3: the best pass rushers in the game, so you know,

821
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Speaker 3: and that's it's a big loss for for the Bengals too.

822
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're trying to juggle everything. You mentioned,

823
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Speaker 3: they got burrowed, eating up that salary. You know, Chase

824
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 3: Higgins franchised again, so a lot, you know, very top

825
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: heavy team that's trying to get back there. And they've

826
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Speaker 3: proven that they can compete with the Chiefs when they're there.

827
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Speaker 3: But you know, you have a season like last year

828
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Speaker 3: or the year before where you kind of uh start

829
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Speaker 3: a little slow and uh and then you're you're on

830
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Speaker 3: the outside looking in. So tough for the Bengals if

831
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 3: if they do lose him, which it looks like they will,

832
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: but he's gonna be a massive get if he goes

833
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Speaker 3: to a contender.

834
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you saw, I think bj Hill back to Cincinnati

835
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Speaker 4: three years, thirty three million, which is like, hey, let's

836
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Speaker 4: lose Hendrickson, but hey, welcome back. You know a guy

837
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Speaker 4: who's you know, decent at his position, but not Trey Hendrickson.

838
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Speaker 4: I think Trey Hendrickson to Atlanta. I just close my

839
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Speaker 4: eyes and say, you know, maybe that's something. I know

840
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Speaker 4: they're gonna look defense, and I think they're gonna look

841
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Speaker 4: defense in the draft. Nonetheless, they've got fifteenth pick, so

842
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Speaker 4: I think Atlanta might be intriguing. And the other one

843
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 4: here is Joey Bosa again released by the Chargers. They've

844
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Speaker 4: been talking to the Niners, obviously his brothers there, and

845
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Speaker 4: it feels like it's I was surprised to see odds up.

846
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 4: He was like even odds to go to San Francisco

847
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Speaker 4: at this point. I think the other team that was

848
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Speaker 4: talking about Bosa would be Miami. Now, Miami's defense has

849
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Speaker 4: been you know, absolutely horrendous at different points, so needing

850
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Speaker 4: to get a rusher there would be intriguing. But any

851
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: thoughts on Bosa.

852
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would.

853
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: I think San Francisco is still the most likely spot

854
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: and I would like to see him go there. You know,

855
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: he has kind of phone off a little bit and

856
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: times he's been kind of counter productive being on the

857
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Speaker 3: field at key times for the Chargers, even with all

858
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Speaker 3: his talent. But at the end of the day, he's

859
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Speaker 3: still a very talented guy. So but I think, you know,

860
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Speaker 3: with you know, reuniting with his brother, I think that

861
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 3: would probably just you know, make him make his competitive

862
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: juices kind of come out a little bit and probably

863
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: puts him in the best spot. So I would like

864
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: to see him in San Francisco. I would like to

865
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 3: see San Francisco, you know, get back to that that

866
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: dominant pass rush where they can rush for and and

867
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: do what they do.

868
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I think I would. I still would

869
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: think San Francisco.

870
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 3: But it's all gonna come down to, you know, money

871
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: on the on the market, unless he really just wants

872
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: to play with his brother no matter what. And and

873
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: but I would think it would have been a done

874
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: deal already then in that in that case, yeah, I

875
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: was expected for that to be done by the time

876
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 3: we did this pod. So the fact that it isn't

877
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: has me a little bit up.

878
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: In the air. It's also a living situation, right Like

879
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: if Miami's number two, you got to move all the

880
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: way across the country for a team that's going to

881
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: finish third in the AFC East doesn't exactly feel nice.

882
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: All right, let's keep rolling here. So Bears offensive line

883
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: I wrote as a category because listen between Tony Dolman

884
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: which happened today which I love with from Atlanta, and

885
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: Jonah Jackson from the Rams. I mean, Ben Johnson is

886
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: figuring out exactly what went wrong in Chicago. I mean

887
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 4: Caleb was sacked sixty eight times last year, sixteen more

888
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 4: than Stroud, eighteen more than Gino. So I mean there

889
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 4: was an obvious problem there. But the thing I look

890
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: at forget the sacks for a second. They were second

891
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 4: worst in offensive indjusted lineyards. Miami was the worst. They

892
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: had the worst in second level yards as well, So

893
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 4: there was just the blocking was really holding them back,

894
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 4: I think in a lot of different ways. But to me,

895
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 4: this is a nice solution, right.

896
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Tuny, you know the Chiefs are already

897
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: have you know, Smith and Humphrey on the interior, so

898
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 3: Tuny unfortunately with the guy that just ended up, you know,

899
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: they couldn't afford him. So yeah, good get for the Bears.

900
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: And you know it's interesting because a lot of their

901
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: alignment last year really didn't.

902
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: Play too awful.

903
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: If you look at their you know, PFF grades and

904
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: different metrics like that, they weren't really that bad. Now,

905
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: you know, guys got banged up and you know they

906
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: weren't always healthy at the same time. But yeah, I

907
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: think a lot of those sacks were on Caleb Williams,

908
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: and so he has to get better as well. But

909
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 3: I do like it, as you alluded to, Evan in

910
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 3: the run game, because I think that's part of it too,

911
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 3: is taking some more pressure off Kleb Williams and we start,

912
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 3: we're starting to see the run game become, you know,

913
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: more important again in terms of contending for a Super Bowl.

914
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: We look at Saquon Barkley and what the Eagles did,

915
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: look at the Bills how they transformed to more of

916
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: a run heavy attack down to stretching into the postseason,

917
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: and it served them well as well. So I do

918
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: think that the Bears, cold Weather City young quarterback, our

919
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: team that would be better served from from running the

920
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: more and better. And so these moves are gonna help,

921
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 3: you know, sentillly revamp the entire interior of your line

922
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: and your tackles are pretty solid. So this could end

923
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: up being one of the best lines in the league.

924
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: You could. I mean there's an outside shot.

925
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: You know, they're the top three offensive line with the

926
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: talent they have, so that is something to watch, and

927
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: their run game could be night and day.

928
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: It was interesting to watch Sakwon Barkley go crazy in

929
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: the playoffs and then get to the Super Bowl. Obviously

930
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: had the game he had, but Kansas City couldn't run

931
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 4: the ball for damn and that really was clear at

932
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 4: the end of the year, which kind of made them

933
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 4: one dimensional in my opinion, and put a lot of

934
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: pressure on my home So I kind of agree with you.

935
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: I think the running back position has kind of taken

936
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: a bit of a turn. Especially this draft is very

937
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: running back heavy, and we kind of hear it from everyone,

938
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 4: So maybe there is an opportunity there for some teams.

939
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: All right, let's go, and now this was I can't

940
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: remember what day this was, but I feel like it

941
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 4: might have been Friday or Saturday last week. But I

942
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 4: remember the Jaguars just getting alert at alert after alert

943
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 4: of just people getting moved, getting traded. I mean, there

944
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 4: was you know, cleaning house all over the place. So

945
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: between Evan Ingram, Christian Kirk, Mitch Moore's, Donald, Ronald Darby,

946
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 4: Devin Duverney. I think there's even many more names than

947
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 4: I left out there. Now Christian Kirk goes to Houston,

948
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: so that was a bit of a trade there as

949
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 4: they need some wide receivers with Diggs and Dell and

950
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: they've still got some holes there. But overall, thoughts on

951
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen, what's going on there and basically the cleaning house,

952
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: it seems other than Brian Thomas Junior, which is a

953
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 4: god amongst men.

954
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we should give him some benefit of

955
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: the doubt, you know, because we saw Tampa Bay, Like,

956
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: if you really look at Tampa Bay's offensive numbers last year,

957
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: they were historically good in certain fasts, like they were

958
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 3: one of the only offenses to accomplish like the you know,

959
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: the third down, the red zone that they did with

960
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: the amount of points that they did, like, they were

961
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 3: very very good, and there was little to no drop

962
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: off when Evans and Godwin got hurt the same time.

963
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 3: And Godwin, you know, he was done for the year

964
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: once once that happened. So I do think that William

965
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: Cohen deserves some, uh some benefit of the doubt here

966
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: and he's keeping them.

967
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: There's still Brian Thomas JUNI there.

968
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: That's that's the guy that I think you're building around

969
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: now Trevor Lawrence. You know, that's gonna be the key

970
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 3: because I think Trevor Lawrence, you know, he's a number

971
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: one former number one pick.

972
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: He should be elevating guys.

973
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't think it was necessary to keep uh,

974
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: you know, all these guys. I mean, like Brenton Strange

975
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: at times was almost as productive as Ingram you had.

976
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: Like Parker Washington had some really good games. He's a

977
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: young guy that's still on the roster. They paid a

978
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: lot of money to gave Davis, so they'll probably keep

979
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 3: him there.

980
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: He's your deep threat.

981
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't be too alarmed by these moves for

982
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: Jacksonville on offense. Now defensively, I think is where uh

983
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: you know, you're you're still kind of a little bit skeptical,

984
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: but I mean they have some talent on defense too.

985
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker came along, you still got hinz Allen.

986
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: So Jacksonville is a team that that division, it's you know,

987
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot of question marks in that division. So

988
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: Jacksonville is definitely a team to watch, and Cohen was

989
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: so good with Baker.

990
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: He's last you know, last.

991
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: Year and in that offense that I wouldn't be alarmed.

992
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: I'd kind of just be kind of watching more. Okay, well,

993
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: who are they replacing these guys with? What is it

994
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: going to look like heading into the year. But none

995
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: of these moves really kind of sound the arm for

996
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: me at all. And the fact that he is kind

997
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 3: of making some moves like this is kind of what

998
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: Seattle's It almost looks like Seattle's doing, but except with Jacksonville.

999
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: They have a quarterback, so it's a little.

1000
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 3: And they have Thomas Junior, so you know, they have

1001
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 3: the quarterback two receiver connection where Sam Darnold and and

1002
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 3: Jaysn haven't had any time together yet. So I do

1003
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: like what Jacksonville's doing, especially in at that division.

1004
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: I think they have a chance to make a big jump.

1005
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 4: I think you and I would take Lawrence and Brian

1006
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 4: Thomas Junior over Darnold and Jsen at the moment, So

1007
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 4: I agree there. I'm the fifth pick in the draft

1008
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: as well for Jacksonville, slated to take Mason. Graham obviously

1009
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 4: helped that defensive line out in Jacksonville. The one thing

1010
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: I was curious about is, Okay, so you want to

1011
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: give Brian Thomas Junior some help, you have Gabe Davis

1012
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 4: on the other side, which at this point, I'm not

1013
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: really sure what player Gabe Davis is like. I don't

1014
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 4: you know, he hasn't been the best or most productive

1015
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: or most healthy since he's left Buffalo. But I mean,

1016
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 4: do you forego do you look at McMillan early, Do

1017
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: you hope Travis Hunter makes it to you? Does that

1018
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: make any sense at all? So, I mean, the one

1019
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: thing I looked at was they have odds on Hunter

1020
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: to go to a specific team. He's like six to

1021
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: one to go to Jacksonville. Now that probably means the

1022
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 4: Giants and Patriots have to not take him in this situation,

1023
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: which you know, maybe a little unlikely. But yeah, I

1024
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: think Jacksonville's intriguing. I don't really say that all of

1025
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: these releases in trades are a huge worry overall, and

1026
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: I think you nailed it. The one reason why there

1027
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 4: is so many question marks in this division top down,

1028
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: I just think at any moment, any move can kind

1029
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 4: of shift the tides a little bit. So I think

1030
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: the division kind of offers them the ability to make

1031
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 4: some moves, which they've done all right, Eagles, I mean

1032
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: the Eagles stuff is really just bringing back people. I

1033
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: mean they released Sleigh in Bradbury, which if you watched

1034
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 4: you know, most of the year. In the postseason, they

1035
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: did okay. But I do feel like that is a

1036
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 4: position that allows you know, allows some upgrades and then

1037
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: they re signed Bond and Saquon to different types of deals.

1038
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: You know, I love Zach Bond. I think he's done great,

1039
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 4: great things there and I think that's a great move

1040
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 4: to bring him back. I've seen different thoughts on the

1041
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 4: Barkley extension, just based on when they have to pay

1042
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 4: him and how you know, Howie Roseman always figuring out

1043
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 4: the salary cap like no other. So thoughts on the Eagles.

1044
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because they what they did, you know,

1045
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 3: knocking off the Chiefs. Everyone wants to get their guys

1046
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: and you know, so they are gonna lose some guys now. Luckily,

1047
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 3: you know, they're gonna have the key guys, which are

1048
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 3: Vic Fangio, you know, running that defense and and those

1049
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: young corners and whatnot.

1050
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: But I do think that.

1051
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: There is a potential for some kind of kind of

1052
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl winning hangover here, just based on you know,

1053
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 3: some of the you know, like everyone was pretty much

1054
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 3: healthy on defense most of the year for them last year,

1055
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: Like it was just such a great season.

1056
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna see some regression.

1057
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: But the saqu One deal, that one, I'm still having

1058
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: a little trouble figuring out. I mean, they gave him

1059
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: essentially an extension, I guess, almost like a thank you,

1060
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: you know. I think it was two years, forty one

1061
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: million extension, twenty two more million dollars guaranteed, and it just.

1062
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: Kind of odd to me.

1063
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: But you know, Howie Roseman kind of gotta give him

1064
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt there. So maybe he's got

1065
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: some things, you know, they're there's gonna to be some

1066
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 3: kind of things loopholes he's taken advantage of. And the

1067
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: cap did rise a ton, so maybe maybe this maybe

1068
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: it doesn't even you know, register when we're looking at

1069
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: this deal next year, in the next two years.

1070
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: But that was a little odd to me.

1071
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: But overall, yeah, I think I just think the Eagles

1072
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: probably peaked last year, like they could easily repeat, like

1073
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: they still very telling a roster, but I would think

1074
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: they're gonna have a little bit of regression, a little

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Speaker 3: more injury issues. I mean, even they were so relying

1076
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: on Saquon Barkley, and I mean he's a guy that

1077
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: he hasn't always been able to stay healthy, and running

1078
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: backs in general don't. So you know, if you have

1079
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 3: if Saquon bark we only plays you know, ten twelve

1080
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 3: games instead of the you know, the entire season, just

1081
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: that alone could have a massive impact. So the Eagles

1082
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: are going to be a team, probably gonna be a

1083
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: little bit overvalued in the market, even though they still

1084
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 3: have probably the league's best roster.

1085
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you wrote down here, Milton Williams obviously

1086
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: making the move from Philly to Carolina. What's that impact

1087
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 4: to you?

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00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 3: So, I mean it does hurt for I mean, it's

1089
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: just one of those guys who, Yes, Philly has some

1090
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: other talented guys on the interior, but you know, having

1091
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 3: that rotation.

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Speaker 1: I think with those big guys is always important.

1093
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: But the one thing, Milion was the top fifteen graded

1094
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: player in PFF, but he was a bottom twenty guy

1095
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 3: in terms of run defense, and that's where Carolina really

1096
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: needs him to be better. He has been better than

1097
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: that in other years, but you know, he's under three

1098
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: hundred pounds, so that is something to kind of watch

1099
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: because I think you would really want, you know, a

1100
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: guy who can add to your run defense as well there,

1101
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: and you would think Williams with the town he as

1102
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: would but really did not play well in the run

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00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: game last year.

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00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tend to agree. I mean, I think that

1105
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 4: move probably hurts them a little bit, But I do

1106
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: also think that the draft is going to be a

1107
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: place where they're going to try to fill some of

1108
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: these holes. I was considering maybe they find like a

1109
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: running back to try to take a little bit of

1110
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: the workload off of Barclay since it is a heavy class.

1111
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 4: May probably not a thirty two, but they do have

1112
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 4: other options later in the draft. All right, let's go

1113
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 4: through Sue through some of these free agent questions, some

1114
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 4: draft stuff here, just some quick bullets. So if you

1115
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 4: can mix and match a current player available with the

1116
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 4: team in need, who would that be. Now, we obviously

1117
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 4: we nailed the DJ Reid stuff. I mean that was

1118
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 4: the that was the one we had talked about last time.

1119
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 4: So what else do you have on your list here?

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Speaker 3: Evant ingram to the Broncos that that would make some sense.

1121
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 3: You know, the Broncos were rotating tight ends and they

1122
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 3: do have a kind of an Ingram like role where

1123
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 3: you know, Lucas Kroll was a guy who they were

1124
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: using in that role where it's just like a pass

1125
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 3: catching tight end. But the Broncos, you know, I think

1126
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: Ingram is best for a team that you know you're

1127
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: not gonna go three wide every single down. And I

1128
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: think the Broncos, you know, they do mix it up

1129
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: personnel wise. They do play a fullback. So if you

1130
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: as long as you have another tight end on the

1131
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: field that can run block, you know, I think Ingram

1132
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: can be dangerous and then you know he can play

1133
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: in a whole passing situation. So him to the Broncos,

1134
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 3: I think upgrade that tight end room and give them

1135
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: kind of that Dosie replacement that they never really got.

1136
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: On the flip side. Jacksonville to take a tight end

1137
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 4: in the draft could be interesting. I like Mason Taylor

1138
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: or Royo that's a bit like of a second third round.

1139
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 4: But I think, you know, trying to get younger saving

1140
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: some money as people always do on those rookie contracts,

1141
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 4: is intriguing all right, let's keep rolling based off the

1142
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 4: moves that have already been made. Is there a draft

1143
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 4: bet you like as of now? This one, to me

1144
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 4: is probably the most interesting as we're starting to get

1145
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 4: locked in on Green Bay's draft.

1146
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I think the most of the draft you know,

1147
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: bets available at this point are still you know, quarterback

1148
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 3: or number one pick related.

1149
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1150
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 3: So the one that stands out to me, and I

1151
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 3: think we've talked about this before, but the Titans to

1152
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: stay in that number one spot there minus one twenty

1153
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 3: five on draftings to be the to pick first in

1154
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 3: the draft. And you know, just based on how the

1155
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: quarterback dominos are falling, it seems like.

1156
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: Ward is going to be the number one pick.

1157
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: And it seems like Tennessee, you know, unless you know,

1158
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: they kind of surprise us and you know, make a

1159
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 3: move for a veteran quarterback of some significance, which there's

1160
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: just fewer guys available after the Field signing and the

1161
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: Darnold signing and whatnot.

1162
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think they would go cam board.

1163
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: So I do think Tennessee's probably more closer to you know,

1164
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: sixty five seventy percent to make the number one pick

1165
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: at this point, so I think there is some some

1166
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: value there and that there's that you know, there's that

1167
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: gap growing between camp Board and Shador Sanders as well,

1168
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: which just makes it more likely that Ward.

1169
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: Is the number one overall pick and he's highly favored

1170
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: to go there.

1171
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, that that's the one that that I'm looking at.

1172
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: I mean, you also look, Carter's had his injuries, Travis

1173
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 4: Hunters had his questions, Chaudor is moving down the board

1174
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: like we're kind of running out of options. So not

1175
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: only do I agree with that, think about this cam

1176
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: Ward like between minus three fifty and minus four hundred

1177
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 4: to go number one Tennessee, like you said, minus one

1178
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 4: twenty five to make the first overall pick, Like it

1179
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 4: feels like that gap needs to be a little tighter

1180
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: than it currently is. So I think you're probably right

1181
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 4: in looking at that. I like it anything else.

1182
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: There, Uh No, that's really I mean I think that same.

1183
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 3: I think, like if you want to hedge there, like

1184
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: you know, if if Tennessee's not making that number one pick,

1185
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 3: I still think it'll be Ward. So I think it

1186
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 3: will be a quarterback needy team. And that means I

1187
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 3: mean when you look at the board, who's the Giants

1188
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 3: still haven't signed Roger like we expect them to, but

1189
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: they still haven't.

1190
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: But they're plus one ten.

1191
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: But the Browns, we still don't know what the hell

1192
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 3: the Browns are doing, right, and there they're plus seven

1193
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: fifty so and they you know, that would just be

1194
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: two to one, you know, So I don't think it

1195
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 3: would happen. But I do think, you know, if you

1196
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 3: want to hedge, like the Jets may be less likely

1197
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 3: now with the Field signing, the Raiders with the Geno signing,

1198
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: and the Seahawks with the Donald signing. Those were the

1199
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: other teams that were at the top of the board

1200
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 3: there to make that number one pick outside the Browns

1201
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 3: and Giants. So I do think the Browns offer a

1202
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 3: little bit of a hedge opportunity there if you're not

1203
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: sold on the on the on the Titans.

1204
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 4: But I mean, I think you're completely right. Also in

1205
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 4: the odds, like the Giants are plus one thirty five

1206
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: to now draft number one, Browns being plus seven to fifty,

1207
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 4: I think it's more likely that Russer Aaron goes to

1208
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 4: the Giants and then the Browns are left being like, Okay, well,

1209
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 4: what can we offer Tennessee to get us the heck

1210
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 4: out of this Watson thing earlier than we want to,

1211
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: and I think plus seven to fifty kind of offers

1212
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 4: some value there, so I like it as well. All right,

1213
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 4: do you have anything else before we wrap up here?

1214
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: No? I think I think really just Cleveland's the team

1215
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: to watch. You know, what are they gonna do at quarterback?

1216
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be Joe Flaccos, They're gonna be Kirk Cousins,

1217
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: you know, is are we going to get a surprise trade?

1218
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: That's interesting? And then gen Ti I do think, you know,

1219
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: with the running backs, with the way Saquan had success

1220
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: in the playoffs and just through the season, that teams

1221
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 3: are going to be more inclined to take Genet and

1222
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 3: the Raiders sitting there at six, I mean, it sounds

1223
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: crazy to go running back at six, but he's still

1224
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: about plus two hundred to go to the Raiders.

1225
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: That could be a spot where he goes.

1226
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of looking at those gent odds and seeing,

1227
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: you know, would it be a I don't know if

1228
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: a team would trade up for him, but I do

1229
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: think that he's going to be in demand just based

1230
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: on how the season kind of played out and you know,

1231
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: teams sitting there saying, hey, we need a playmaker. It's

1232
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: not I don't think it's just gonna be the wide receivers.

1233
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna look at Gent just as much.

1234
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, him, him to the Raiders. I think it

1235
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: is a bet I'm kind of looking at. But just

1236
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 3: his board in general, I think is something to watch

1237
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 3: because there's probably gonna be a team that emerges, and

1238
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: I think the most I think there's gonna I think

1239
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to be aggressive to get him, and

1240
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: the Raiders are just sitting in that in that perfect spot.

1241
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm hearing a lot of love from Mari and

1242
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 4: Hampton as well, Who's slated to go right now twenty

1243
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 4: to the Broncos. So I think the running back position

1244
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 4: in general is gonna be To me, it's way more

1245
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: interesting than the quarterbacks in this draft is kind of

1246
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 4: especially with what Saquon just did it, I think people

1247
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 4: are going to be a little trigger happy. All right,

1248
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 4: That is it for this Action Network podcast on the

1249
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,720
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1250
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,320
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