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Speaker 1: Well, good morning and welcome to Between the Horns and

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Speaker 1: happy New year. Everyone. Before this season began, who knew

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Speaker 1: if we would even get this far. But it is

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Speaker 1: week seventeen. We've reached the regular season finale and the

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Speaker 1: stakes are huge at SOFI Stadium in the rematch with

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals win and the Rams are in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I'm JB. Long and with me is team reporters Serena Morales.

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Speaker 1: What do you think should we see what twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one has in store? Bring it on, let's go, let's

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Speaker 1: get today. Let's just keep going. And my Rams radio

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Speaker 1: partners Maurice Jones, Drew and DeMarco far are you doing, gentlemen? Good?

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Speaker 1: What's happening? Wow? This is the portion of the program

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Speaker 1: Serena where we normally take a look back at the

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Speaker 1: previous week's game. But you know what, let's just skip that.

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Speaker 1: Let's just go right to Sunday and take care of

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Speaker 1: all the to do list items at hand. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny. The last week of the preseason is when

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Speaker 1: we would normally or typically expect to see backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: John Woolford, not the last week of the regular season.

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Speaker 1: But that's what we'll get on Sunday at so By Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff is out for Sunday's game after having surgery

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Speaker 1: a Monday to repair a broken thumb suffered in the

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Speaker 1: loss of the Seahawks, and incomes John Wolford, who has

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Speaker 1: taken as many regular season NFL snaps as I have.

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Speaker 1: So Marco, we will start off playoff. Life is on

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Speaker 1: the line. How about this for a first time career

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Speaker 1: start well, Serena. I hope he's a little bit better

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Speaker 1: of a quarterback than you. I'm just saying, arm man,

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Speaker 1: don't pop the arm I've got. Look, well, he hasn't

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Speaker 1: thrown an NFL pass, or at least in a regular

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Speaker 1: season game. That's true. But if you go back and

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Speaker 1: look at Wolford at Wake Forest, I mean I think

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Speaker 1: he won what twenty or forty seven games. That's saying

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Speaker 1: something at wake Forest in the ACC And the thing

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Speaker 1: I like best about it was he won his last

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Speaker 1: game of the year. I mean, that stuff matters to me.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, and to Jared Goff's credit, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see how much he likes football and how good

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Speaker 1: good support system for Wolford even when the offense is

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Speaker 1: having success or having more success than they did with him.

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Speaker 1: So this is this is gonna be a big deal,

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Speaker 1: But it's not really John Wolford I'm concerned about. I

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Speaker 1: think I know how he's going to perform. We saw it.

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Speaker 1: The guy's got wheels and he can throw, so I

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Speaker 1: think the offense fits him. It's just the rest of

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Speaker 1: sure they don't get in the end zone, keep it,

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Speaker 1: keep it simple. For John Wolford. I have no doubts

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Speaker 1: he's going to run this offense really, really well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as DeMarco saying, he's got wheels. So, Maurice, with Wolford

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Speaker 1: But does this kind of change the entire game plan

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Speaker 1: him have half field reads where it's bootleg short medium

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Speaker 1: But I would say, Van Jefferson, it's time to get

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Speaker 1: and I would expect, knowing Sean McVay like we do,

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Speaker 1: wait to see Sean mcvay's game plan in many regards,

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Speaker 1: but especially what he does with the running attack. We'll

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Speaker 1: So there's gonna be some different things, some different elements

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Speaker 1: So it maybe John Wolford and his legs that get

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Speaker 1: you those third downs like you need. Can you believe it?

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Speaker 1: Just three weeks ago from today, the Rams were considered

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Speaker 1: week seventeen? To Marco, how do the Rams kind of

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Speaker 1: at that situation, and JB you said it is best too.

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Speaker 1: Play action pass would have worked in that situation. If

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Speaker 1: those sequence of plays from Jamal Adams stopping Darryl Henderson

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Speaker 1: with our favorite segment, our fantasy picks, Maurice. Since you're

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Speaker 1: And so for me, I think John Woolford comes out,

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Speaker 1: fresh Legs Woolford. That's a good pick. I'm going with

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Speaker 1: the defense this week. I think they know they have

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Speaker 1: defense this week. JB. First quick question. You're not supposed

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a hunch and go with Robert Woods.

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Speaker 1: I think for two reasons. One, I've just seeing the

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Speaker 1: And secondly, I think banking on the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: about you, Serena? All right, guys, here it is. Everyone

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Speaker 1: he doesn't care to correct them. He just wants to play.

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Speaker 1: This is a man who make Vas said, if you

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Speaker 1: don't like him, something is probably wrong with you. This

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Speaker 1: a very safe, enjoyable year ahead. I hope it's better

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Speaker 1: of your week. Will see you on Sunday. It so

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