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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: The King of Reality TV and one of the most

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Speaker 2: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 2: years a production experience. Once a week from Reality with

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Speaker 2: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 2: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 2: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Ray drops yes on today's episode of Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: Oh my loves I have back, y'all favorite, He's my favorite.

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Speaker 2: When we did a recap of Jersey a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: Oh honey, Bunnies, we broke the internet. This man gives

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Speaker 2: so many amazing views on all the shows we love.

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Speaker 2: But today we are going to talk about part three

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Speaker 2: of the Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion. I have

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Speaker 2: loss to say, and you know he does too. Welcome

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Speaker 2: David if I'm behind the bever Bro podcast.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Carlos, I mean, what is going on?

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Speaker 1: You know what isn't going on?

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Speaker 2: So let's just get right into me because I already

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Speaker 2: know how I made you operate. Yeah, we started this

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Speaker 2: season really saying this is Melissa's last season bathe upon

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Speaker 2: what we just watch, do you still think melissa time

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Speaker 2: is up?

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Speaker 4: Based on the reunion? If I'm going to take a

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Speaker 4: step back, who do I think won the reunion? Quote

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Speaker 4: unquote between Teresa and Melissa? I think Melissa. I think Melissa.

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Speaker 4: I mean she had a great reunion.

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Speaker 3: I think she was cool.

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Speaker 4: I think she was calm. I think she was collected.

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Speaker 4: I think she had good arguments. I do think Teresa.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even know if she said anything.

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Speaker 4: You know what, Carlos to answer your question, and if

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Speaker 4: none of that matters, it don't matter. It don't matter.

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Speaker 4: I don't think this. This was just a waste of

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Speaker 4: everyone's time, this reunion. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: I stand by you are not going to fire Teresa.

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Speaker 4: Gu DJ Judies, however you want to say it.

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Speaker 3: You hate her, you love her.

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Speaker 4: Louise is a violations, these are all. This is a

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Speaker 4: waste of everyone's time and energy. Melissa had a better

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Speaker 4: reunion than Teresa. The MVP for me of the reunion

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Speaker 4: is Teresa, because she sat there saying to.

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Speaker 3: Herself, none of this matters. I will never see you

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Speaker 3: guys again.

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Speaker 2: And it's true yeah, I agree with you that I

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Speaker 2: thought Melissa did a great job as reunion and I

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Speaker 2: said to myself, is because she stopped trying to be

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Speaker 2: this likable person. I don't think Melissa is inherently likable.

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Speaker 2: I don't think she's inherently genuine. That's okay. There's tons

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Speaker 2: of housewives who aren't that way that we love, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I felt like in this reunion, it's like, finally

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Speaker 2: we get to see the real Melissa. She didn't care

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Speaker 2: about salvaging this relationship. She didn't care to say like, no,

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Speaker 2: you know, I love you, peace, love and rainbows. I

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Speaker 2: felt like she said, all gloves are off, our bets

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Speaker 2: are off, and let's just go there. And I also

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Speaker 2: agree with you that it doesn't mean her performance determines

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Speaker 2: her position right now, because it's bigger than that. It's

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Speaker 2: much bigger too, It's much bigger than you. Finally, finally,

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Speaker 2: after over ten years, you finally performed well out of reunion.

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Speaker 2: Because prior to that, which is why she's always been

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Speaker 2: second se or third seed sometimes first. Teresa has never

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Speaker 2: left her position after season two of having first seat,

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Speaker 2: So we have to look at the longevity of it

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Speaker 2: and Teresa at the end of the day, You're right,

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Speaker 2: she said there, like I just don't care anymore.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to give.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to sit here and just know that I

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Speaker 2: don't have to see you again.

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Speaker 4: I think that scene with Andy Cohne, like in the

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Speaker 4: third part, where it was like they were backstage and

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Speaker 4: he's like, come on, let's just go get this done,

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Speaker 4: that was like when you and I talk when we're

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Speaker 4: not on air, Like we're on air, we're being very

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Speaker 4: natural now, but when you talk it's like behind the scenes,

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Speaker 4: you don't.

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Speaker 3: It's so subtle. That was the like, le let's just

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Speaker 3: please finish this, Let's just get this over. Come on, girl.

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Speaker 4: It's like that's like an old family member that it

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Speaker 4: was so telling to me. I mean, look, no, he

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Speaker 4: didn't say they're not going to be here, and I

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Speaker 4: get me wrong, I do think and we'll get to

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Speaker 4: who else is going to be fired and everything. I

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Speaker 4: think they want to keep Melissa. Why wouldn't you want

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Speaker 4: to keep Melissa and Joe work.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, they love they Listen.

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Speaker 2: I would go on record saying I believe they love

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Speaker 2: Melissa and Joe Gorga.

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Speaker 1: I think they love Joe Gorga more.

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Speaker 2: But I think this, if it wasn't for Joe Gorga,

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Speaker 2: I think Melissa would have been fired years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and yes, but yes and yes and so

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Speaker 4: I And by the way, here's what I say to people,

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Speaker 4: because people are like, you're wrong Louis Is. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean Louiss And we can get into Louis. That's

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Speaker 4: a whole another we are we're gonna get But here's

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Speaker 4: the thing. Let's just take a lot of drugs and

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Speaker 4: go into an alternate universe here. People, let me, just

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Speaker 4: for Devil's advocate, agree with everyone. Let's say that, okay, fine,

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Speaker 4: you think Teresa and Louis are going to go. Let's

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Speaker 4: pretend that now what we got rid of Teresa and

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Speaker 4: next season, the New Jersey House wind it's going to

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Speaker 4: be called the Real House West of New Jersey is

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Speaker 4: going to come back, and the number one og on

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Speaker 4: the show is going to be Melissa, and there's Margaret,

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Speaker 4: and this whole show is going to be centered a round, Melissa,

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Speaker 4: Let's just really think of what people are saying when

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Speaker 4: they say Teresa's going to go, there is think about

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Speaker 4: there's you're making your face that there is zero percent

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Speaker 4: chance that is going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Zero.

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Speaker 2: You have a better chance of seeing Anderson Cooper host

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Speaker 2: the reunion show then for Melissa to ever be the

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Speaker 2: force multiplier, the queen, be the face of Real Housewives

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Speaker 2: of New Jersey, It's not going to happen. And again,

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Speaker 2: I said this once and I'll say it over and over.

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Speaker 2: At one point in time, Melissa was fantastic for the show.

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Speaker 1: She honestly was.

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Speaker 2: But let's be very clear, it was courtesy of her

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Speaker 2: storyline being with Teresa. If you subtract Teresa from Melissa's

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Speaker 2: story and I'm just being very honest here, and I

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Speaker 2: have receipts to back it up, and the receipts are

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Speaker 2: the seasons. Melissa has never had an a story that

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Speaker 2: had any weight. The only thing she has ever given

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Speaker 2: up is I'm looking for my lost long sister girl bye.

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Speaker 2: I want to have a baby, girl please. It's the

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Speaker 2: storylines that you've seen be recycled across all franchises, across

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Speaker 2: all reality shows including nagy Day's Beyonce or sixty Days In.

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Speaker 1: It's the same shit, and.

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Speaker 2: If it was real, you would have produced a sister,

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Speaker 2: you would have produced a baby. The only thing Melissa's

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Speaker 2: capable of producing is herself when it comes to Teresa's storyline.

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Speaker 2: So because of that, you're not going to see the

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Speaker 2: network in my opinion, get rid of Teresa and have

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Speaker 2: the show be about Melissa being the queen Bee with

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Speaker 2: Margaret and Jennifer Aiden at Dolores. So let's get right

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Speaker 2: into it. The reality of the party reunion one of

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Speaker 2: the bigger accusations, and there's several to talk about David,

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Speaker 2: the first one being Louie and Frankie Junior going their

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Speaker 2: separate ways as it relates to business. So what happened

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Speaker 2: was Frankie Junior was working at Louie's establishment and he

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Speaker 2: no longer works there. Frankie Senior and Joe Gorga could

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Speaker 2: not wait to talk about whatever happened. De Laura shut

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Speaker 2: it down. She shut that shit down and said we're

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Speaker 2: not doing it. She even thanked Louis, thank you for

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Speaker 2: giving my son the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: She shut it down, and to Andy's credit, he said

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Speaker 2: what we all were thinking, Well, this just raises more

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Speaker 2: questions because you guys aren't talking about it now. Delores

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Speaker 2: obviously is protecting her child. What made it so weird

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Speaker 2: to me? And I'm just being very honest. It was

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Speaker 2: sort of like this glee that Joe Gorga had in

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Speaker 2: terms of trying to spill the tea that I felt

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Speaker 2: saying I want I don't want to talk about this,

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Speaker 1: It down and just keep your mouth shut.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to expose this situation when it involves

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Speaker 2: someone's kid. Yes, Frankie Jr. Is of course over the

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Speaker 2: I respect Dolores being a mom protecting her cup, which

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Speaker 2: also brings me to this, David. This whole accusation of

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Speaker 2: Gia another child, yes, over the age of eighteen, but

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Speaker 2: a child nonetheless being accused of telling uncle Joe Gorga

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Speaker 2: that he could do better than Melissa. So Joe Gorga

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Speaker 2: revealed that Teresa called Gia. Gia denied it, and Teresa

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Speaker 1: What did you think about all of that?

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Speaker 2: And do you think Joe Gorga is telling the truth

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Speaker 2: or he's lying or should he have said anything at all?

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Speaker 4: It's like, so where I you know, I smiled and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh God, Carlos, because I knew, I know

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Speaker 3: And I know this for a fact.

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Speaker 4: This one is a little more tough for me because

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Speaker 4: I don't know it is for a fact. But this

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Speaker 4: what do you think?

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 3: I can't see Gia saying that. Can you see if

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Speaker 3: it's the thing?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So obviously I know Jia since she was a

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Speaker 2: who has watched her girl up to be an adult woman. Jia,

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Speaker 2: from what I've seen and what I know, she has

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Speaker 2: no problem coppying to stuff. She's very direct. She's her

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Speaker 2: mother's child. She's very much like. We've seen Gia check

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Speaker 2: her uncle on camera. We've seen Gia shade her aunt

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Speaker 2: in a sense of like, I don't want to talk

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Speaker 2: y'all can call me stupid, and it's fine. I don't

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Speaker 2: think she said it. What I think happened. I think

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Speaker 2: Joe Gorga. And this is this what makes me so

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Speaker 2: mad at Joe Gorga, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna choose your wife, and that's your prerogative,

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Speaker 2: and that's fine. But the fact that you are so

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Speaker 2: that you would involve your goddaughter slash niece into the mess.

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Speaker 2: And I think Teresa's emotional reaction had to do that.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. One of the things

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Speaker 3: That's it, in a Starbucks gift card. And just yes,

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Speaker 4: I do, I honestly and truly because I know, I

438
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Speaker 4: know they they have five hundred gift card this case.

439
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't know if I said

440
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Speaker 4: this on your show before, you know, I won't mention

441
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: the name of the publication, but a major publication, because

442
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: you know, I work with the media and get my

443
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 4: show out there.

444
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Speaker 3: Amazing.

445
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: Oh no, honey, we saw you on the Hulu Hunty

446
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: talking about the randal scandal of an All Babies. So no,

447
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: we know that David is a household name. He was

448
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: on Hulu. If you miss it, check it out. He

449
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 2: was amazing.

450
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Speaker 1: Continue, please thank.

451
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: You, Darling.

452
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 4: So this publication, very big publication, said I have to

453
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 4: tell you David, like this person said, I get calls

454
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: all day, not Beverly, there's not one franchise.

455
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: She's like, New.

456
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 4: Jersey Margaret Melissa aid, they all call put this story

457
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: out about this one I got all day.

458
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 3: She's like, and this is from a rep. This is confidential.

459
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: It's not like they're trying to They're like, let me

460
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: tell you, so imagine this like imagine like I say,

461
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 4: a People magazine. It's not People. I'm just giving an

462
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: example that they'll get a call from Margaret. I got

463
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 4: tea on ter Lisa. Let me tell you something, Hey,

464
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 4: I know I called you an hour ago. I got

465
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 4: something else to tell you. Hey, And I mean then

466
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: the paper has to say, well, okay, we don't just

467
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: run a story.

468
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: Trust me.

469
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 4: I've gotten calls from major publications like we have to

470
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 4: fact check this from four reliable sources speak to us

471
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 4: off the record, is this true or not? If I say, listen,

472
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: I know for a fact this is true. And here's

473
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 4: why that ain't good enough, they don't have.

474
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 3: To call this.

475
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, papers, it's reputable, at least most of them.

476
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 4: But like if you see something on a paid six

477
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 4: or a TMZ or something, it's it's been checked.

478
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: By a lot of sources. Doesn't mean it's always right,

479
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 3: but it's so.

480
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 4: Can you imagine like a Margaret calling all day and

481
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 4: trying to put shit out about Teresa and then say,

482
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 4: I mean maybe Teresa is doing the same thing and

483
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: Melissa and so they said, there's not one franchise that's

484
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: that engrossed in calling us, in driving us crazy the

485
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: New Jersey. So yes, Marge, my belief is with certain

486
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 4: facts that I have that Margaret pays bloggers allegedly.

487
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I've heard the same.

488
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 4: Okay, And by the way, that's why we're not friends anymore.

489
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 4: People think that we're not friends because I had Laura,

490
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 4: her ex best friend.

491
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 3: On my podcast. That's that look, that was I think

492
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: you know.

493
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: The end, but for sure, yeah, that was the nail.

494
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: On the coffin. But way before that.

495
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 4: I'm not a blogger, podcast or whatever you want to

496
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 4: call me that can be paid. So all season, when

497
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 4: Margaret wanted me to put out her narrative on my

498
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 4: podcast and be team Melissa, Team Melissa, Team Alissa, I'm like,

499
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: that's not how this behind the development rope show works.

500
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: I take it people are like you and Kim dr

501
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 4: flip floppers. Yes, that's we are. Each week we provide

502
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 4: what we have witnessed. One week, I have an issue

503
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: with Teresa, one week I have an issue with Melissa.

504
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 4: Then I have an issue with Teresa again. It changes

505
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 4: every week based on what I am hearing and.

506
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 3: And that's called a good thing.

507
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: So when Margaret basically wanted me to be team Melissa

508
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: all season and anti Teresa, I'm like, my duty is

509
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: to my audience. That's all I care about, not to you,

510
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 4: and that is really where our friendship. I'm like, there's

511
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 4: nothing you can do for me. I don't need the

512
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 4: five hundred, I don't need the one thousand. She never

513
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: offered me money. I'm not cleaning that, but she wanted

514
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 4: me to put her narrative out there, and I'm like,

515
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: that's not how this works.

516
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: Go on, it gets messy, that's the thing it gets.

517
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: It gets messy. One of the messiest things that came

518
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: out this episode part through Reunion of New Jersey was

519
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: the fact that Dina Man's and her husband were mentioned

520
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: and these allegations that they fell out over business dealing.

521
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: Dina Manzell has been silent over what's going on. The

522
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: only thing she said was they were filming and she

523
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: didn't want to be a part of it, which is

524
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: believable because at the end of the day, Dina doesn't

525
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 2: want to be a part of the show anymore. She's

526
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: made that very clear. But there's still this word fallout

527
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: between these friends. What do you think about the supposed

528
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: allegation that Dina Manzel's husband and Louis had a business

529
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: deal that went wrong and that is the reason why

530
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: this falling out happened? Or did you hear something else?

531
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: No.

532
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: I heard that and you know, based on my research,

533
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: and I believe that's one hundred percent true. Look, I

534
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 4: don't think Dina wants like I think Dina, you know,

535
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: and everyone's like Dina said Dina said, Gina said, I

536
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: don't care what Dina said anymore than I can don't

537
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: care what Anti Cone says when he says there's no

538
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: New Jersey pause. Well, New Jersey films traditionally two weeks

539
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 4: after it ends. That's not happening, Andy, it's a pause.

540
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: I understand you've been told by your boss, boss's boss's boss,

541
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: who makes even more money than you, to backtrack as

542
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: the face of the network, and now you have to

543
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: sell books, and as you're selling your books, you're being

544
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: asked about this, and I understand that there's no pause. Well,

545
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: there is a pause in the sense that we're not filming,

546
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 4: and that the girls were told to have a great

547
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: summer and we're going to the girls were told have

548
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: a great summer, and we're not sure when we're filming again.

549
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: That I mean, I was told that directly.

550
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: Now.

551
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, now things change by the minute. So do

552
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: I think that they could start filming in September?

553
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: Sure? Do I think they could start filming in January? Sure?

554
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 4: But they were told, like we truly do not. It's

555
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: not like have a great summer. You know, here's your

556
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 4: contracts are going out. We'll see you in September, or

557
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: it was like have a great summer. They were told

558
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: you can go fly wherever you want, you want to

559
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: go to, you know, on a safari in Africa. Go ahead,

560
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 4: your cell phone doesn't work, that's fine, enjoy That sounds

561
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: like a pause to me. That sounds like I have

562
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 4: a great summer. And then there was like, we don't

563
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: know when we're filming. We'll have to figure this out.

564
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: So that sounds like an indefinite pause, which could be

565
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: a year, it could be three months.

566
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

567
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: It just means like they gotta figure this out, believe

568
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: it or not. I think the shorter the pause, the

569
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 4: less good news it is for Melissa, because I don't

570
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 4: know what there is to figure out, Like we'll get

571
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: into that in a second.

572
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: But there is a pause.

573
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: So just like Andy could say there's no pause, but

574
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: there is, Dina can say all day of course, like

575
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: I don't think Dina has a problem with Teresa. I

576
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 4: think if they saw each other they were cordial. Dina

577
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 4: does not want to be Dina as Namas day all day,

578
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: not like Teresa Nomas day where she says that and

579
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 4: then is basically storming off and slamming doors, and that

580
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: is why we love you, Teresa. But Dina is truly

581
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: her podcast is about like, look, Dina's one of the

582
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: only housewives that hasn't been behind the velvet rope she.

583
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: I mean, Dina probably would come on my podcast if

584
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: I wanted to talk about, you know, holistic healing for

585
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: an hour. But I guarantee you people would say, sweetheart,

586
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: if you mentioned the word real housewives, sir Teresa, we're

587
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: hanging up on the zoom. So I don't know what

588
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: the point of this talk is, but I guarantee you that.

589
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 4: So Dina really does not want She's not a lot

590
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 4: of these housewives.

591
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: Oh I'm over it. No, she really is over it.

592
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: So she doesn't even want that.

593
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: Narrative out there. So I think she's saying this to

594
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: shut it down. She has nothing against Teresa, she'll never

595
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: speak out. But no, I think her and you know

596
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: Day from my sources are like, let's just completely distance

597
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: ourselves because we have seen some things with Louis that

598
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 4: we just that this isn't kosher and good luck to them.

599
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: We have no harm, but we want no part of

600
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 4: this deviousness.

601
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree with you. I also heard allegedly

602
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: that there is a pause, but that the pause has

603
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: nothing to do with deciding whether or not they're going

604
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: to choose between Melissa and Teresa, that a large part

605
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: of it allegedly has to do with Louie. What we

606
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: learned during this reunion was Margaret alleging that Louie reached

607
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: out to her son at his job and threaten him,

608
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: and she provided receipts of phone records where Louie admitted

609
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: that it is my cell phone number, but I didn't

610
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: do it. I am hearing that the ladies are saying

611
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: they don't feel comfortable allegedly being around Louie, and that has.

612
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: To be figured out.

613
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: What do you think about these accusations of Louie contacting

614
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: Margaret's son and hiring private investigators to do background checks

615
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: and find dirt on these housewives and their husbands.

616
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: This one is so complicated in layer, yes, because first

617
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: of all, you have this woman, Margaret, who just lies.

618
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: She just lies, So you got to start with the

619
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: fact that this woman is lies. Now people have blown

620
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: up these these listeners, these listeners, you you viewers, you

621
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: guys are so I mean, you and I were talking

622
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: before we went out I didn't even know Needy leaks,

623
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: wasn't it, and that She's like, I don't. I don't

624
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: realize anything. Guys like everyone gives. I mean, I know

625
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 4: shit in the real world, and that's my value. But

626
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: I don't notice. People are like, did you see it?

627
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 4: So people blew up Marge's receipt and they're like, well,

628
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: it's like a picture of a picture of a So

629
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: people have blown that up and she held that up

630
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: and are saying like that don't look like a receipt

631
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: to me.

632
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: Now, I'm just putting that out there. That's what people

633
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: are doing.

634
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: But I mean Louis says he never hired bo Dedal,

635
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: which I mean Boddle has said this, so we don't

636
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 4: you know, I trust bo Dedal with my life. Of course,

637
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: you know I'm going to be hiring mister Didell if

638
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 4: iren the end.

639
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, girl, I ain't any other calls.

640
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to come for me, Melissa, guess what?

641
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: Like you know?

642
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: But so look if this one's complicated, because they're saying

643
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: that you can like spoof someone, I guess which can

644
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: call someone with your number on a landline. I don't

645
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: know how any of this works. I mean, Louis is

646
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: saying it's my number. It's just I don't know. I mean,

647
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: here's the thing, this is what I want to know.

648
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 4: Is there really a police report? Did Margaret really go

649
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: to the police? That is what I would like to know,

650
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 4: because I think Margaret is smarter than I. You go

651
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: to the police with a false claim and you're in thought,

652
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: Oh baby, excuse language, rain drops, but you're in trouble.

653
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah right, so you're sorry, go ahead.

654
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

655
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 4: So she is someone who we know doesn't pay her bills,

656
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: she's someone who's been sued, she's someone who has done

657
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 4: some bad things.

658
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: But I don't think Margaret.

659
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 4: Is dumb enough that she would go and involve the

660
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: actual authorities when she is just and this is a lie.

661
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: So I'd like to know is they're really a police report?

662
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 4: Because if there is, I tend to then believe it.

663
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 4: But I where's the police report? Because I mean, people

664
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 4: have now blown this up and I don't know what

665
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 4: that was.

666
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think to your point, the Jersey fans are

667
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: so invested that if there was a police report, we

668
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: would have seen it on all the blogs. And I

669
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: think if Margaret allegedly and somebody who pays blogs. Then

670
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: I think the police report right would have shown up

671
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: if that was the case.

672
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: And that's the reason.

673
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: Why a lot of people are giving me shit, like

674
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: you don't condemn Louie. You never say anything bad about him, Carlos.

675
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: You always like you're such a tree thugger because you

676
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: know I call her thug it's tree thuggers now, David,

677
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: you're such a tree thugger that you won't admit that

678
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: Louise carry And I said to them, I'm facing Louie

679
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: off of what I've seen on the show, of the

680
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: episodes I've seen, and I said, Guys, I work in

681
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: reality television.

682
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: I know that things can be doctored.

683
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: On one of my other shows, Love and Marriage Huntsville, David,

684
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: there were accusations of the phones being tapped because what

685
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: Andy said is happening to the housewives and including him.

686
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: How these numbers appear based on Like, for example, if

687
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: Melissa Gorga is calling Andy, the phone would say Melissa Gorga,

688
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: but it could.

689
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: Be a bot.

690
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: And I'm saying that's true because that happened to my

691
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: cast on another show, And how does it work? Okay,

692
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: So it's called like it's a spam. Okay, So what's

693
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: happening with the housewives that Andy said is all of

694
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: the housewives, not just Jersey. It's happening all across the franchise.

695
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: Is their phone would bring and the name will pop

696
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 2: up of a particular housewife, right and when they answer

697
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: the phone, you're thinking like, oh, it's the housewife whose

698
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: name I see on my cell phone.

699
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's not.

700
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: It could be a totally different person, a fan, a scammer, anybody.

701
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: And Andy has said that this has happened to him.

702
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying that is true because on one of my

703
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: other shows, a cast member accused someone of tapping their

704
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: phone lines and trying to.

705
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: Find on information.

706
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: But it's sort of this cross reference of like, who's

707
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: you know calling somebody based on the name that appears.

708
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying all of that to say because Markert provided

709
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: a receipt that and listen, I'm talking as a producer.

710
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: They showed Jackie Goldschneider's receipt of Jacqueline texting her. When

711
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: they do that, guys, when they blow it up to

712
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: the full screen, it's because they have validity that this

713
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: is real, because you don't want to get sued in cases.

714
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: Not that's why they blow it up. It was a

715
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: real conversation.

716
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 2: Don't you find it interesting that in this alleged receipt

717
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: that Margaret had Louie calling her son, Allegedly, they never

718
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: blew up the receipt. They could have blacked out the

719
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: Louis cell phone number. So to your point, you just

720
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 2: I just don't know. I don't know if he did

721
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: it is disgusting and he should be condemned if he

722
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: did it. If he did it, unfortunately, I just don't know.

723
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: Well, as a producer, you now have me thinking like,

724
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: why didn't they blow it up? I never thought about that,

725
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: and Carlos is producer, why didn't they blow it up?

726
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: Listen, people give me shit all the time too.

727
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: They're like, you know, I don't even know when did

728
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: this podcast become so one sided?

729
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not really one sided.

730
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 4: I am not a tree thugger, I'm not a tree stump,

731
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 4: not a treatment her. I just Melissa has personally come

732
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 4: for me and I had to snap the bitch down.

733
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm over it now, Like one thing has nothing to

734
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 4: do with the other. The fact that I think she

735
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: is going has nothing to do with my dislike for

736
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 4: her or my life for Teresa.

737
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily loved Theresa. I got some issues with

738
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: her too, but there is.

739
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 4: A warmth to her in a genuine iss yes, that

740
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: Melissa does not possess. But I agree with you. Why

741
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: didn't they blow it up? They blow everything up, they

742
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: show everything ever you know they Why why wouldn't they?

743
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: I mean that's a pretty big piece of information.

744
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: No, no, it is, and that's why I said to everybody,

745
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: you can't every housewife nowadays has a receipt in a

746
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: Manila envelope that they got them Kinkos.

747
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: It's the same.

748
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: It's to the point now where receipts, like you said

749
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: earlier about Melissa is using it. I'm over the word receipts.

750
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: Stop it. It's beginning played out and predictable. But I

751
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: looked at it through the lens of a producer of

752
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: if that was the case, they blew up Jacqueline's text message.

753
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: Why didn't they blow up these receives Margaret has? And

754
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: maybe it's because they could not really legally say this.

755
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: This document looks real.

756
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: Not saying it was fake, but I'm saying you always

757
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: have to look at things that meets the eye. Now,

758
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: the biggest question we have in this episode, David, is

759
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: the future of the Real Housewives of New Jersey. I

760
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: stand by my case that you're not going to have

761
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: my list in Teresa back the same season. I don't

762
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: care how great Melissa performed, and I agree with you

763
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: it was her best, best, best performance of all time.

764
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: I think the writing is on the wall. Now, this

765
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: is my prediction.

766
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me, I do predictions.

767
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do believe that the network and everyone involved

768
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: loves the Gorgas, and I get it because of Joe,

769
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: Joe's great or Josephina. Okay, so there's no Jersey without Teresa.

770
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: Sorry, be mad at me. I hate listen.

771
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: I don't like saying it because I produce other shows

772
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: and you never want a star to believe that the

773
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: show cannot move on without her. I look at facts.

774
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: They put the show on palls when she was in jail.

775
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 2: That indicates Melissa can I carry your show on her own?

776
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two.

777
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: Ramona allegedly not being asked back for Ronie and them

778
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 2: rebooting the entire franchise is because they know you can't

779
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: do Ronnie. Without Ramona, you just can't tam or Judge

780
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: not being on oc suffered and they brought her back

781
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: after putting her on Palls. We'll see how Biverly Hills

782
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: is going to do, David. They're already saying it's not

783
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: enough drama because Lisa Rena is gone.

784
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: I believe she'll be back.

785
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: To I sell that to say those tree huggers, the thuggers,

786
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: and the stumpers, they will pick it at all of

787
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: the offices if Teresa does not come back.

788
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: And at the end of the at.

789
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: The end of the day, creatively, you can't continue that

790
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: show without Teresa.

791
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: You can without Melissa.

792
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: So with that being said, either one or two things

793
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: is going to happen. Either they're going to give Teresa

794
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: a spin off and say, Teresa like have the Lache

795
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: lay on Merrow's place. You are a guest star on Jersey,

796
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: will see you in big events, you can make appearances,

797
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: and that way Melissa stays or Melissa is on pause.

798
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: Will Melissa be fired? No, I think she would be

799
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: put on pause for a year to see how the

800
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: season progresses. And secondly, to give them Melissa versus Teresa

801
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: a break.

802
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: I kind of agree with some and many see this

803
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 4: is what I think.

804
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: I think that go ahead tell me I.

805
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: Agree with you.

806
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: I just am like it's not And by the way,

807
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: like Louis, people say liability at all of this, but

808
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: there is more there. I mean, Teresa's job is not

809
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: in jeopardy. If she were dating a school teacher who

810
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 4: was like quiet and buy the book and a nice

811
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 4: humble man, she happened to hit TV reality TV gold.

812
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: I mean, once again, Teresa is just I mean people

813
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 4: Bravo's thrilled with Louis. They don't care. They won't have

814
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: Jen Shott until she was going to jail. Like if

815
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: Louie is up to no good, Bravo don't care. The

816
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: day that he's whatever and whatever illegal things allegedly and

817
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 4: all this which mate, they'll say goodbye and they'll kick

818
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 4: his ass to the curve. But till that happens, Bravo

819
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: will gladly film with him. That's all a legend.

820
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: We don't even know. So Louis is not a.

821
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: Liability to the extent that we're getting rid of Teresa.

822
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: I agree with you, it's never going to happen. I

823
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: do think that person if you put everyone's name on

824
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: the whiteboard. As you know, as a producer, you take off.

825
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: I mean, if anyone out there listening cares, I just

826
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: ran into Jackie Goldschneider a few weeks ago.

827
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: I like you, Jackie. We take Fessler and Jackie's off

828
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 3: when we throw it in the garbage. Does any want care? No?

829
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 4: Sorry, Jackie, You're not coming back. Then we have I believe.

830
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 4: Actually the next name, the third name to come off

831
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 4: that board is Margaret's. I think Margaret actually comes off

832
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: before Melissa, because well here's what I think, because you

833
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: need look, we're not taking a look. This is like

834
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 4: the rented situation. When this comes back, this is going

835
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: to feel just like Beverly Hills, where we hear there's

836
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: no drama. I actually think Bravo wants that Jersey style,

837
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 4: so there'll be some you know, thugness, as you say,

838
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 4: but they want we want to distance ourselves. So when

839
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: it comes back from a pause, Beverly Hills is going

840
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: to be like Lisa Renno was never there. It's going

841
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 4: to feel so we're not coming back to tie up

842
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: all these loose ends. We're going to come back and

843
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: reset the whole damn show. So They know that Margaret

844
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: is associated with these pain bloggers and all these alleged things.

845
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 4: They they she has this around her, and I think,

846
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 4: to change this show. If you're going to get rid

847
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 4: of Melissa, you get rid of Margaret too. It's nothing

848
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 4: to do with me disliking her. I just think to

849
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: reset the show. If Melissa is going, Margaret also is

850
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 4: up there. She's making what seven eight hundred that? What

851
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: is she in her?

852
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: How many years?

853
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 4: It's a big ticket, you say them about two point

854
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 4: eight million dollars right now by getting rid of these

855
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: two people or two million where I think they will

856
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: get rid of Melissa, Margaret Fassler, and Jackie and move

857
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 4: forward with everyone else. I think if Melissa goes, Margaret

858
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: is going with her, and I think I do, And

859
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 4: then I think, and by the way, I know this

860
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 4: for a fact. I don't know if everyone knows this

861
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: the rain dress, but I know for a fact this

862
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 4: is a fact.

863
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 3: This is natural.

864
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 4: They're interviewing right now, like New York, in New Jersey,

865
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: they are truly meeting thirty one.

866
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 3: To maybe forty.

867
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: They're not going to say this it's illegal, but they're

868
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: interviewing women in their thirties early forties. Like when I

869
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 4: say now, I mean like yesterday, last week.

870
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: The interviews are happening. They're talking to people night and day,

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Speaker 3: day and night right now, not tomorrow. Today. These interviews

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Speaker 3: are happening now.

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Speaker 4: We would like try that in New York and we

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Speaker 4: didn't find anyone and we had to fire the whole

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Speaker 4: cast and start over. So I'm not saying that they

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Speaker 4: are on the verge of finding someone, but these interviews

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Speaker 4: are happening right now.

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Speaker 3: So if anyone out there lives in Jersey and they.

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Speaker 4: Also would like really really really rich too, that they're

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Speaker 4: they're trying.

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Speaker 3: So I believe that's the most likely case.

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Speaker 4: The only other thing I can see is they get

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Speaker 4: rid of everybody, give Teresa her own spin off and

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Speaker 4: just move forward with Danielle Cabral and Rachel Fuda and

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Speaker 4: just it's like New Jersey Housewives two point zero. But

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Speaker 4: I really think that's the less likely situation. And I

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Speaker 4: really think Teresa stays on the show, and I think

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Speaker 4: there is zero and like, think about it, if Melissa

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Speaker 4: goes and Jackie Infestler and Margaret stays Mark, it's still

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Speaker 4: too toxic. Teresa just said she's done with Margaret. It's

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Speaker 4: too They want this to come back and be fine.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be drama.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they a drama, but they want to refresh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know. Margaret is just it's not

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Speaker 4: gonna work. It's not gonna work. It's gonna be too combative.

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Speaker 4: Like I think, it's just a chance. And by the way,

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Speaker 4: her story Listen, Margaret was a great housewife. Melissa was

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Speaker 4: a great housewife. It's like, what is Margaret's story going forward?

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Speaker 4: Cabral We don't know anything about her yet, Buddha, there's

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Speaker 4: so much more there. We got a Laura and when Margaret,

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Speaker 4: I think her time is up. I really do so.

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Speaker 4: I really think that's what's gonna have. That's my prediction.

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Speaker 3: Whoo.

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Speaker 1: Well, Ryan Thobs, let me know woo. This is obviously.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I've gone so far in my show

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Speaker 4: as to saying one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: So if Melissa is on this show.

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Speaker 4: Next season, Carlos, they are gonna nail me to the cross.

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Speaker 4: They are coming for me because I have gone so

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Speaker 4: far as to say there's like zero percent chance. So

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Speaker 4: if Melissa is dot Man, people are wow to destroy

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Speaker 4: which is okay.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is, but I'm gonna get you.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, listen.

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Speaker 2: Anything can happen in the land of Real Housewives, as

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Speaker 2: we have seen and learned, So it's okay, It's okay.

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Speaker 2: But these are some great predictions. So rain Drops, make

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Speaker 2: sure you hashtag me and David at Reality with the

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Speaker 2: King and let us know about our predictions about the

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Speaker 2: future of the Real Housewives of New Jersey. Do you

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Speaker 2: agree with us, disagree with us, let us know. But David,

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Speaker 2: this has been, like I said, one hundred percent, the

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Speaker 2: most hilarious, messiest episode I've ever taped on Reality with

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Speaker 2: the King podcast, and of course it's because of you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, and I was calm today. This is like

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Speaker 4: I'm calm and everything. Oh, but I mean so sorry

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Speaker 4: to be so net Raindrops.

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