Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi, Hi. How's it going. It's gone great.
Speaker 1: How are you good? I got all my best buddies
Speaker 1: in the house, which is very exciting. That's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you're not you're not filming today. You're suspiciously not
Speaker 1: wearing a what's that thing called that stops you from
Speaker 1: breathing with that's it. I don't know. I've never had
Speaker 1: to wear a corse yet, so why would I know
Speaker 1: what it is? That's true. Well, you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of our as have tried it on and given up
Speaker 1: after about three minutes. Really, they tried on you, not mine,
Speaker 1: but they tried on a corset in a fitting gave
Speaker 1: up after about three minutes. It's it's interesting. It's like
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a thundercoat for dogs. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you that. It's like a thundercoat. Oh you're saying I
Speaker 1: thought it was just a brand, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's a fucking awesome brand. I don't know who decided
Speaker 1: to name it that, but that's sick. No, where did
Speaker 1: we leave off? We left off what happened in the
Speaker 1: last episode. We filmed this last episode yesterday, and I
Speaker 1: don't remember what I know. The lots happened in your life,
Speaker 1: it seemed true, Profess. What happened in the last episode
Speaker 1: was Iron Sisters, and we found out that Cleophus is
Speaker 1: part of the circle and stabbed her friends. Right now
Speaker 1: they're off, She's off doing who knows what. Clary's got
Speaker 1: Sunlight Rune and Isabelle spying for alder Tree and Jason's
Speaker 1: on ecre duty and lots going on. No kidding, No kidding,
Speaker 1: and sim Nemya are are making eyes at each other.
Speaker 1: Simon and Meyers started making eyes into it. Clary should
Speaker 1: be jealous to catchman. I get it. I am fully
Speaker 1: with you. M So today we are rewatching season two,
Speaker 1: episode seven, How art Thou Fallen? The original air date
Speaker 1: was February seventeen, written by Holly Overton, directed by Ben
Speaker 1: Hernandez Bray, starring Katherine McNamara Dominic Show at Alberta, Rozenda, Matthew,
Speaker 1: Dario A Mustafa, Harry Sham Jr. With guest stars Alan
Speaker 1: Van Sprang, Alicia Wayne Right, Lisa Barry, Nick Segar and
Speaker 1: David Castro. Oh my goodness, what's happening today? What is
Speaker 1: happening for today? So Clary takes a leap of faith,
Speaker 1: Clary and Luke find themselves at odds over the arrival
Speaker 1: of Cleo. Luke sister shows up at the Jade Wolf,
Speaker 1: claiming innocence about the recent attack, but with Luke not
Speaker 1: trusting a word, Cleo says, he finds himself at odds
Speaker 1: with Clary, who sees an opportunity to get Vale time. Yet,
Speaker 1: how far will Clary go to prove she's rights about Cleo. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Simon gets dating advice from a surprising source as Isabel
Speaker 1: takes a dangerous path. I remember filming this scene. Is
Speaker 1: this the one where you and Alberto? No, m it is?
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Yeah, because I get, but don't I get? Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: I think the log line of events is I get
Speaker 1: booted out of That's right, because you just went to
Speaker 1: go stay with Magnus. That was the end of the episode.
Speaker 1: You showed up and interrupted Malex. Nice moment. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah this is the episode I know what This
Speaker 1: is also the episode um where Clary has supersonic hering
Speaker 1: for a little bit, supersonic angelic hering for just one
Speaker 1: episode and then American. Yeah, yeah, I remember that weird
Speaker 1: thing that they did where suddenly I was hearing these
Speaker 1: crippling noises. My goodness, it's all it's all going on,
Speaker 1: it's all happening. Oh, we have dark hooded figure walking
Speaker 1: through the streets of Chronto. I remember shooting this episode.
Speaker 1: It was so cold. In fact, I think, I think
Speaker 1: this is the episode I've seen with Lisa Berry later
Speaker 1: on where we're literally in an alley and they added
Speaker 1: these fans and doing a d R. I remember this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we turn up, do we not? I think so?
Speaker 1: Can I not turn up? And I remember seeing you
Speaker 1: and you were like not you know, when you're really
Speaker 1: cold and you get like a hint, like a hue
Speaker 1: of blue. Yeah, that wasn't what it was. You were blue,
Speaker 1: like actual blue, and you couldn't talk. Yeah. Well, and
Speaker 1: I remember doing a d R. It was so difficult
Speaker 1: to do a d R for that scene because my
Speaker 1: cadence of speech was different because I was so coold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, yeah, I think it was later It
Speaker 1: was like after that that they decided, actually, maybe shadow
Speaker 1: Hunters can feel the temperature, and let's dress our actors
Speaker 1: and something warm for a little bit dependent whether yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but here we go, speaking of cold and cold hearts.
Speaker 1: We started off this episode of Valentine. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a cool entrance as well. I forgot that he did that.
Speaker 1: That's an awesome entrance. Yeah at all, like Superhero landing.
Speaker 1: That's great. Was this at the hern again? I was
Speaker 1: just looking at that. It looks exactly like the hern
Speaker 1: which seems like a silly place for it looks exactly
Speaker 1: like the scene that he told us about the brother
Speaker 1: Sister thing like it. That set looks exactly the same,
Speaker 1: And it seems a little strange that he would go
Speaker 1: back there because that's the last place we saw him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe he just popped in for a little meeting. He's
Speaker 1: got himself an angel, He's found himself an angel. This
Speaker 1: guy was great. Man, what a trooper? Remember they put
Speaker 1: so this happens later on, but we see this angels
Speaker 1: wings and they had the practical winks, they had the
Speaker 1: actual wings and they were so heavy that not even
Speaker 1: like the stunt guys could stand up with them on
Speaker 1: because they had the physical engineering works to open behind him.
Speaker 1: And I think we ended up just not doing that
Speaker 1: and having CG right. I think they used it for
Speaker 1: one shot, but I think at the end they might
Speaker 1: not have I remember where they shot this. Now, they
Speaker 1: shot this at a slaughterhouse that was about twenty minutes
Speaker 1: away from the studio. Remembers that one day that we
Speaker 1: were supposed to shoot a scene there as well, and
Speaker 1: then they got behind and it was like twelve hours
Speaker 1: that we sat there, and then they decided to move
Speaker 1: that scene that we were supposed to do somewhere else.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, but that sounds very like what
Speaker 1: it's like to make a TV show. I only remember
Speaker 1: because it was the one time I sat for twelve
Speaker 1: hours on on that set. Otherwise, you know, our scheduling,
Speaker 1: A lista does make it a Lissa Caprioti is a
Speaker 1: Lista Caapriarty. Yeah, she does make it into the show.
Speaker 1: I thought we'd cut her only scene, and that's not
Speaker 1: the case. She's in it. No, No, she comes back
Speaker 1: a bunch. Oh yes, the supersonic caring. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: the supersonic caring I was talking about. I'm walked along
Speaker 1: the institute. Everything's fine, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: there's a ringing in my ears or a screaming or something.
Speaker 1: Is that based like? When when did this happen? Is
Speaker 1: it's just another like thing that we added in, so
Speaker 1: like this is going to be a good story point.
Speaker 1: It's a pure angel blood thing because Clara was injected
Speaker 1: with angel Jonathan was injected. I don't know. Do I
Speaker 1: have angel blood? I forget? Do I have pure angel blood? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You do? Do you and I have angel blood yet?
Speaker 1: Because gold is itself in like gold eyes and ruined stuff,
Speaker 1: mine is apparently supersonic and deelic hering in sunlight ruin once,
Speaker 1: super sonic hearing one time. That's funny, that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these powers are unpredictable. We don't know what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: much like my evening, I don't know. Welcome to Drunk
Speaker 1: returns to the Shadows for one episode because I'm positive
Speaker 1: I won't be allowed. I really want to do an
Speaker 1: actual drinking game with you one episode, but I feel
Speaker 1: like we should do it with you know, should get
Speaker 1: like Alberto and Matt on as well and watch an
Speaker 1: episode where the finales of a drinking game with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll run it by him. I'm seeing Matt Tomorrow'll run
Speaker 1: it by m sounds good. Well, now we're back, Speaking of,
Speaker 1: we're back with Malick, I don't we've skipped a whole
Speaker 1: bunch just pays in the background. I gotta get better
Speaker 1: at this. There's a whole cute ass magnus alec gift
Speaker 1: giving scene. What do you think they love languages? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think experiences. Actually, I think I'm together and and
Speaker 1: share experience. Yeah, I think so too, because that's when
Speaker 1: they bond. What the languages are, It's it's words of affirmation, touch,
Speaker 1: gift giving, shared experience, Aren't there? Fine? Seven I'm gonna look.
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like a dummy on the
Speaker 1: podcast anymore than I already do. If I can better myself,
Speaker 1: I will. This is a really confusing Google search. I
Speaker 1: just typed in love languages, and the top results are
Speaker 1: what are the seven types of blood languages? What are
Speaker 1: the five basic love languages? What are the eight love languages?
Speaker 1: Are there seven or five love languages? This is really confusing.
Speaker 1: Physical touch, words of affirmation, quality time, gift giving, acts
Speaker 1: of service. I mean they don't get much of it,
Speaker 1: so it's probably quality time for these two, right, That's
Speaker 1: what I would say. I think quality times, Yeah, quality
Speaker 1: time and words of affirmation, because those are the times
Speaker 1: that we see them bond the most, when they actually
Speaker 1: communicate a little time together. What do you think ours
Speaker 1: is not you and me? I don't think we have sarcasm,
Speaker 1: sarcasm and giving ship. I think that's our love giving giving.
Speaker 1: Um No, what what is Jason Clary's do you think?
Speaker 1: I think it's somewhere between. It's not worth of affirmation
Speaker 1: because they don't communicate that well. I think it's probably
Speaker 1: touch and quality time. I actually think, yeah, I definitely
Speaker 1: agree with touch. I think it might be acts of
Speaker 1: service as well. I think yes, the more, especially like
Speaker 1: when they're sort of navigating through this world, I think
Speaker 1: the more that they they see each other, work with
Speaker 1: each other, and see each other have sort of self
Speaker 1: sacrificial benefits in each other's lives, then then they grow
Speaker 1: closer towards each other, which I think is kind of
Speaker 1: And I never really saw acts of service as a
Speaker 1: as a love language. I see it as something that
Speaker 1: can be admired, but I never really saw it as
Speaker 1: a love language. But actually, between these two, I kind
Speaker 1: of I agree with you too. It also fits a
Speaker 1: bit with just the whole pathos of the shadow Hunters
Speaker 1: that acts of service would be. You know, PAS is
Speaker 1: my favorite of the Three Musketeers. Little known facts about
Speaker 1: Tom Sherwood. Folks, Yep, there's gonna be lots of those tonight.
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. All right, Well, while you're doing
Speaker 1: your unauthorized advertisements, I'm going to watch you making out
Speaker 1: with Kaylee. Oh shoot, that comes already. Yeah, well, you
Speaker 1: guys are giggling. They're talking about Cassanova right now. Apparently
Speaker 1: would have met another giggling in the background. Yeah, that comes.
Speaker 1: That comes later. Also hats off, man, Like, imagine it
Speaker 1: being your first day and just being like you're going
Speaker 1: to be pretty much naked, you're gonna be making out
Speaker 1: with this, Like, it's a really shitty way to join
Speaker 1: a show. It's a shitty way to really do anything.
Speaker 1: Like any imagine any job that you turn up and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh ps, this is what you're doing say
Speaker 1: and you're like, fuck me right, that sucks, she says,
Speaker 1: And she was a real trooper. Yeah she was awesome.
Speaker 1: This is a really sexy episode because next scene we've
Speaker 1: got Alberto with his washboard in the mirror and Claire's like,
Speaker 1: oh hey, hey, Bamber looks good at your jealousy showing
Speaker 1: it does look good on him. Clary is not listen,
Speaker 1: you can't blame the girl. Now, you can't complain the girl.
Speaker 1: She's not covering very well. But that's fine, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It never you never end up with
Speaker 1: a jealousy thing between Izzy and Clary. I think is
Speaker 1: he's too sure of herself. I think she's like, he's
Speaker 1: gonna end up with me. That's fine. I know. I
Speaker 1: don't worry about it, which I think is kind of cool.
Speaker 1: It's very that's a very Isabelle thing to do. Also,
Speaker 1: she's seat right now currently, she's busy. She's quite busy. Man.
Speaker 1: I missed this set. I miss being on this set,
Speaker 1: the boat basin, no, any of them, like our sets
Speaker 1: on Shadow Hunters. Like I missed waking up every day
Speaker 1: and coming to work and coming to these I do too.
Speaker 1: We had such a good setup and it just felt
Speaker 1: like a home, you know, with the where the props
Speaker 1: room was and the office was, and the stunt room
Speaker 1: and the wardrobe and everything was right there. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: cellphone strikes again. It's funny. I always it always makes
Speaker 1: me laugh a little bit when we use cell phones
Speaker 1: in the show, because in the books they don't because
Speaker 1: they are the waves attracted demons, so they only that's
Speaker 1: why they use fire messages. But it costs less to
Speaker 1: pull us off phone out of your pocket. I think,
Speaker 1: unless well unless I was doing a d R once
Speaker 1: and this will remain completely anonymous who this was, but
Speaker 1: one of the actors, one of the actors who was
Speaker 1: in every episode. I'll say that much had their phone,
Speaker 1: their personal phone in their back pocket and you could
Speaker 1: see the Apple logo and I spotted it in a
Speaker 1: d R and I went, yeah, I don't think we
Speaker 1: can have that in there, right, That's going to cost
Speaker 1: us a fortune, and they went ship. The whole scene
Speaker 1: was scrapped. It was not you, and it was not me.
Speaker 1: We'll say that much. Well me, I never because honestly, like,
Speaker 1: mind's more embarrassing. Like I'm naturally quite skinny, and I
Speaker 1: worked really hard to be in good shape for this,
Speaker 1: but like I'm still quite slim. And I like the
Speaker 1: iPhone Pro Max, the big one. I like, that's my model,
Speaker 1: I guess, And it looks too big on me, Like
Speaker 1: it makes me look like I'm really small holding a
Speaker 1: regular sized phone, Like I just look stupid, so I don't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't come to set with me, ever, So I
Speaker 1: also find it very distracting to have my phone on
Speaker 1: set and if we had anything that needed to be googled.
Speaker 1: That's why Mats there exactly. That's the real truth. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Matt, here we have another Malax scene. He's getting
Speaker 1: his alert. Damn it, he has to go to work.
Speaker 1: See a quality time being interrupted once again. Always it's
Speaker 1: Constant's relentless. I love their relationship since those little touches
Speaker 1: of sweetness. There's such a warmth to it. Oh up,
Speaker 1: and here we go. You are in bed worth the
Speaker 1: see yeah, I'm in bed with the silly right you are.
Speaker 1: I'm in bed with the scene. This is a large
Speaker 1: part of this. So this is this scene was done
Speaker 1: pre intimacy coordinators. So for those who don't know, an
Speaker 1: intimacy coordinator as someone who comes on and make sure
Speaker 1: that everyone who is in an intimately fragile situation feels
Speaker 1: comfortable on set. That's basically sort of the entirety of
Speaker 1: their job. So things you are willing to do, things
Speaker 1: you aren't willing to do, whether it's to do with
Speaker 1: the performance or how you're treated on set, or making
Speaker 1: sure you're covered for certain amounts, whatever it is, that's
Speaker 1: their job. And this was done pre intimacy coordinator, so
Speaker 1: it's you sort of well, a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: do this, hence the necessity for an intimacy coordinator, but
Speaker 1: we did. You have this discussion ahead of time. I
Speaker 1: always try to what are you comfortable with? What are
Speaker 1: you not comfortable with? Let's sort of let's coordinate the
Speaker 1: scene ahead of time, so nobody feels strange on set.
Speaker 1: Um and Silik was our a D on this one,
Speaker 1: and he was he was sort of in charge. We
Speaker 1: had our conversation, but he was in charge of making
Speaker 1: sure that everyone feels comfortable, and he did an amazing job.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone because we've hung out with here
Speaker 1: a bunch of Michelle, we hung out a bunch of
Speaker 1: times since then, and I think he does an incredible
Speaker 1: job and making sure that everyone feels safe and secure
Speaker 1: on our set. So hats off to sellec. Hats off
Speaker 1: to Michelle for throwing yourself in at the deep end
Speaker 1: there as well. Absolutely, and hats off to the makeup
Speaker 1: team as well for not only the seely ruins of
Speaker 1: the seely tattoos, but all of the ruins. I forget
Speaker 1: how great the rooms look, especially on camera. You know
Speaker 1: and interesting as well. So my room I've paused at
Speaker 1: sort of the perfect moment here where I have ended
Speaker 1: up lying on top of Caylee and you can see
Speaker 1: the room on my side right here. Um, and there
Speaker 1: is a big you know this, there's a big tattoo
Speaker 1: under I can sort of show you hit the tattoo,
Speaker 1: a real tattoo underneath that room. I'll be damned if
Speaker 1: you can see that. You cannot see that there is
Speaker 1: a tattoo under there at all. They did an amazing,
Speaker 1: amazing job. Those days are pretty hellish for me and
Speaker 1: for the makeup team. Is like four people who have
Speaker 1: to sit for two hours with spray paint and like
Speaker 1: cover my entire body and then apply all of these things.
Speaker 1: They're horrendous. Like, I don't know why I get tattoos.
Speaker 1: I'm getting another one in like a week, aren't we, Daryl.
Speaker 1: We're getting another tattoo soon, right? What are you getting? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He said apparently No, Okay. Also, we're not really decided
Speaker 1: on it yet. That's the real true good luck. Good luck.
Speaker 1: Then that's I'm then I'm done. That's it my last one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what I'm promising myself because it is.
Speaker 1: It's unfair to go to new sets and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, I have all of these ridiculous tattoos
Speaker 1: on me that you have to cover, which which is
Speaker 1: like every job as well, like we managed to sneak
Speaker 1: a couple in in Partner Track, but like Penny Dreadful
Speaker 1: was set in the forties, like tattoos in the forties,
Speaker 1: like you have to get rid of them more so
Speaker 1: it's not fair. That's what I've decided. So no more tattoos.
Speaker 1: I mean one more and then we're done. I believe
Speaker 1: I want to see it. Um. But also I miss
Speaker 1: wearing the ruins at work. There's some days it's it
Speaker 1: was such a transformative thing. It was just an indication
Speaker 1: of you know, I'm out of one person now I'm
Speaker 1: this other person, and I miss it. I agree. Makeup
Speaker 1: in general for me is that's sort of my time.
Speaker 1: Like accent wise. You know this because you've had cars
Speaker 1: together at work quite a bunch accents starts on the
Speaker 1: ride to work, and that sort of slowly gets me
Speaker 1: into you know, whatever it is, whatever headspace is. But yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're certain and they cup chair, that's when you
Speaker 1: become this person, right, like especially someone like Jason, Like
Speaker 1: Jason is so infinitely better looking than I am, which
Speaker 1: sounds fucking mental because I played him, like I get,
Speaker 1: I get how insane that sounds. Like he's really good looking,
Speaker 1: and a lot of that is like his confidence and
Speaker 1: how he holds himself and whatever, and a lot of
Speaker 1: it is the job that the makeup team does, and
Speaker 1: I as they were doing their thing, I felt like
Speaker 1: my confidence and like Jay sort of like becoming a
Speaker 1: thing as we're sort of set in the chair, which
Speaker 1: is really it's such a weird it's such a weird
Speaker 1: like it's almost like a like a version of schizophrenia,
Speaker 1: like this other person is stepping into the spotlight, but
Speaker 1: it's still me, you know what I mean. Like it's
Speaker 1: a really odd thing to sort of describe, but great.
Speaker 1: I love it. That's why I love changing my hair.
Speaker 1: And you know, even when I have the opportunity to
Speaker 1: wear a wig at work, I love it because it's
Speaker 1: such a clear delineation of sitting the chair and you
Speaker 1: are someone else after after a few minutes, there's something
Speaker 1: so there's it's it's always interesting, how you know Jace
Speaker 1: accentuates his bravado when he's feeling insecure, he's feeling down.
Speaker 1: It's it's such a common thing. I was going to
Speaker 1: stay with men, and I actually don't think that's true.
Speaker 1: I think this is a very common pattern of behavior
Speaker 1: that I've seen more and more since playing Jace, since
Speaker 1: understanding I've seen it when I do it, and I
Speaker 1: do I don't get me wrong. I do. Like, if
Speaker 1: I'm feeling insecure, I completely cover that up until I
Speaker 1: find someone safe that I can talk to, and I'm like, great,
Speaker 1: let's now I can offload this. But like when I'm
Speaker 1: with strangers, I'm like, let's make a joke about this,
Speaker 1: but like really dying inside. And since playing him, it's
Speaker 1: really polarized my ability to focus on that. So I've
Speaker 1: seen it in people and I go, oh wow, there
Speaker 1: is yeah, I know exactly what's happening here. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: we don't know each other well enough for me to
Speaker 1: call you out on this, but like, I know what's
Speaker 1: happening here. So like some people go too far right,
Speaker 1: Like I've seen it very often when people are just dicks,
Speaker 1: like complete dicks, and you see it, like you see
Speaker 1: this flash, I'm like, oh, man, I lived with exactly
Speaker 1: this for four years. I know exactly what you're doing,
Speaker 1: and you kind of get a pass. You maybe shouldn't
Speaker 1: get a pass fully, but you kind of get a
Speaker 1: past because I'm like, I get it. Someone hurt thirteen
Speaker 1: year old you twenty years ago or ten years ago
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, and that insecurity is showing right
Speaker 1: now and you're covering it up, and you're doing a
Speaker 1: good job of covering it up. And you know what,
Speaker 1: fair enough, you're going to figure the ship out, and
Speaker 1: I get it. That's fine. But the reason that it's
Speaker 1: very rare that I snapped to anger, I snapped to drinking,
Speaker 1: and we're back. Kind we're back, and now Alec and
Speaker 1: Clary are having a chat about Jason because he's Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love this sort of begrudging cooperation between these two.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so camogen E. It's like my favorite thing,
Speaker 1: Like funk, I've run out of sources, like I have
Speaker 1: to go to Clary. It's my favorite bit. Jason's in trouble. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't want to talk to you about it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to you about it either. Fine, Fine,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I just skipped too, but I
Speaker 1: just call Harry doing the coolest wink I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in my entire life. If you're watching, wait wait wait wait,
Speaker 1: let me find it. Okay, So if you're watching on Netflix,
Speaker 1: it is at twelve minutes fifty three seconds. Check it out.
Speaker 1: He's doing a scene with Maya and he does the
Speaker 1: coolest wink I've ever seen that in my entire life,
Speaker 1: and he does it with his left eye. I'm still
Speaker 1: in clary Isabel hand, but I'm going to skip a
Speaker 1: little bit because basically we're talking about Jason. There's clear first,
Speaker 1: and there's all sorts of stuff going on. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: is he's having a tough time. Also, I've said this
Speaker 1: before and I said it again, and I've said it
Speaker 1: to Emerald. Um, this is my favorite section of her performance,
Speaker 1: Like this the whole like injury to starting it too.
Speaker 1: She deals with some really fucking tough issues in this
Speaker 1: really tough issues, and she absolutely nails it, absolutely nails it,
Speaker 1: especially like the recovery section at the end. Is it's
Speaker 1: like brutal and she's so good at it. Anyway, wants
Speaker 1: my little side note that I think did a fantastic
Speaker 1: job there. Now we've got sister Cleophus cutting herself open.
Speaker 1: She's doing what she just cut her waist open? Oh why? Why?
Speaker 1: Why is that happened? Now we've got Magnus, because she
Speaker 1: needs to pretend to be injured probably would be my guests.
Speaker 1: She needs to pretend to be like brother. Help me.
Speaker 1: There's another one of those episodes where I don't I
Speaker 1: don't fully remember a lot of this. Now we've got Magnus.
Speaker 1: You know, I forgot about this. Magnus and Magnus and
Speaker 1: Maya scene, it's so lovely. Again, it's the down world
Speaker 1: or the down world or interpersonal relationships are so interested
Speaker 1: down world. That's but that's the words I was trying
Speaker 1: to find and you got them ahead of me, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It is that, Yeah, it is. It's
Speaker 1: that doubt, Like there's this real unilateral Everyone went through
Speaker 1: a version of this, Like everyone went through a version
Speaker 1: of being ostracized, then figuring it out, finding their family
Speaker 1: doing their things were then figuring out that there are
Speaker 1: mortal and wait at the wolves are mortal. They're not immortal.
Speaker 1: I think they live longer than humans, but they're not immortal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: vampires are immortal. Vampires and warlocks Sile's immortal cilies have
Speaker 1: to be immortal. Yeah, well right, no, Seelye's they're not immortal.
Speaker 1: They just live a lot longer. Seelye's will live like,
Speaker 1: you know, six eight hundred years, I think. But the
Speaker 1: Seley Queen is immortal, don't know. I think she just
Speaker 1: ages at a different rate. Yeah, we just saw Magnus
Speaker 1: catch Isabelle trying to buy drugs. Yes we did. And
Speaker 1: Magnus can smell alive from ten tho miles away. Very clever.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I love I love a father daughter Clary
Speaker 1: Luke moment. Yeah. Oh, and Claire's like, by the way,
Speaker 1: I made a new room. Don't know how, I don't
Speaker 1: know why, I don't know what it's for, but I
Speaker 1: did it. And your sisters seeing this is one of
Speaker 1: the questions we answer in the show, though, which is nice.
Speaker 1: We do we do find out why you have this ability?
Speaker 1: Ah see this Luke is the only capable adult in
Speaker 1: this entire show. He's like, hey, wait, we can't trust
Speaker 1: my sister. I know she's my sister, but she might
Speaker 1: be working with Valentine. What a novel idea? Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: not trust her. Has she even turned up with you? Guys,
Speaker 1: we're doing We did such a good job of time
Speaker 1: keeping last episode, and I feel like we're doing a
Speaker 1: bad job now. Simon also Smiley going to pick up Maya.
Speaker 1: Oh he's wearing a shirt, he's all dressed up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he bumps into Izzy. Oh there's the dating Ada. So
Speaker 1: he's like my favorite commentator of And I can't remember
Speaker 1: how much of this was Alberto versus how much was
Speaker 1: written about him. He does such a good job of
Speaker 1: like little New York is, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like he turns up and she's like, you're early by
Speaker 1: like two hours, and he's like, well, you know the
Speaker 1: f trains or whatever. You like, that's not if you
Speaker 1: haven't lived in New York. You just wouldn't. You don't
Speaker 1: know what that is. It's a little not to like
Speaker 1: that's a New Yorker. He's a New Yorker, which is
Speaker 1: it's amazing. That's why it's part of why he is Simon.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look and here's here's an injured clear for
Speaker 1: stumbling into the Jade Wolf. How fortuitous. Yeah, Lisa Barry
Speaker 1: just coming in at a ten. She just so committed Dolly.
Speaker 1: Fake blood, God, we hate fake blood. It's just it,
Speaker 1: just as as Alberto does a shot of it. It's
Speaker 1: just dreadful. And the problem is there's no real way
Speaker 1: to do fake blood and c G. I no, they're
Speaker 1: really the only way to do it is to have
Speaker 1: practical fake blood and it sucks. Spoiler alert, I'm about
Speaker 1: to get covered in it tomorrow at work for our season. Finally,
Speaker 1: spoiler no, I'm assuming it doesn't. I mean, did it
Speaker 1: often you just had patches of blood that you would
Speaker 1: slip in in the seventeen eighties. Sure, yeah, that's definitely
Speaker 1: what's happening in our show. What happens to someone die?
Speaker 1: Who died? We'll cut it out. I just want to know.
Speaker 1: Lots of people die people. Is it like? Have you
Speaker 1: had to do it quick draw yet and you had
Speaker 1: to do cowboy like? No, I've fairly gotten to do
Speaker 1: anything stunt wise. This is the first episode. Check. You
Speaker 1: genuinely should go to Kinsey's place. Side note, go to
Speaker 1: Kinsey's place and get the peacemaker that I have. If
Speaker 1: they ever put you with a handgun, if there's nothing
Speaker 1: in it, it's completely safe. It has rounds in it
Speaker 1: that are all completely dead. There's nothing, it's an air
Speaker 1: soft gun, but it doesn't have any gas nets. It
Speaker 1: can't do anything, but it functions like a gun. That's fun,
Speaker 1: so you can learn to do everything. That's cool. I
Speaker 1: just get to run around with the giant shotgun in
Speaker 1: this episode, which is like a double barrel. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: a like a Winchester A little little wink. That's really cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fine, and there's our two boys at the bar.
Speaker 1: This was arguably one of Arguably, this was one of
Speaker 1: my two favorite scenes ever to film with Alberto, so
Speaker 1: the rises. This was one of the one of those
Speaker 1: moments where like, oh, ship, like they trust us, They
Speaker 1: genuinely trust us to do our job because they gave
Speaker 1: us lines and genuinely came to us at the beginning.
Speaker 1: They were like, do one or two takes with the
Speaker 1: lines as they are, and then you guys can do
Speaker 1: whatever you want, like we've seen how you guys work together.
Speaker 1: You guys can do whatever you want. It's a really
Speaker 1: nice sensation to be able to be like, oh, funk, okay,
Speaker 1: they really do trust us with this, They trust us
Speaker 1: with our characters. Now. That's a really amazing feeling. And
Speaker 1: Alberto and I did really get to have a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. That's wonderful with this. Alicia as well. Actually, honestly,
Speaker 1: like she, I think I spit in one, was her.
Speaker 1: She added that, yet, I'm pretty sure. And this is
Speaker 1: also where the illustrious book club joke came from that
Speaker 1: we reprised later several times in the show. That's not
Speaker 1: in the books. I think it's mentioned once in the books,
Speaker 1: but we we made more the deal of it in
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, we really did, because we really truly did.
Speaker 1: It was fun, no kidding. Oh god, we played with
Speaker 1: this as well, like we were out at dinner and
Speaker 1: stuff and we just messed with this scene a whole bunch.
Speaker 1: It was really good fun. God. I want to I
Speaker 1: want to. I want to work with Alberto again. I
Speaker 1: want to work with Alberta solely of my career. That's
Speaker 1: all I want to do, honestly, is I just want
Speaker 1: to work with Alberto for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair with other people, with you guys
Speaker 1: and other people as well. But like every job, my caveat,
Speaker 1: Like when I get to like fingers crossed, like Leonardo
Speaker 1: DiCaprio status, he's going to be furious because he's gonna
Speaker 1: be like dude, I want to do other work and
Speaker 1: be like, now it's in all of my contracts I'm doing.
Speaker 1: That's really cute. No, clear, that's getting healed. You say
Speaker 1: getting healed? Healed? Men healed? Like how you heal a
Speaker 1: dog like he No, she's trying to heal her brother,
Speaker 1: but well she kind of is. She healed an heals,
Speaker 1: she's healed and healed. Oh oh no, I'm so sad
Speaker 1: Valentine and filtrated the citadel and killed my friend. I
Speaker 1: definitely didn't stab her and cold blood? Why don't we
Speaker 1: have like we do have forensic guys, right, Like we
Speaker 1: have a forensics team. Is he is one of them?
Speaker 1: Like we have a forensics team. Couldn't we look at
Speaker 1: that body and be like this came from this blade?
Speaker 1: Can we do that? Maybe? But if you don't do that,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But the thing is with with that
Speaker 1: the Circle uses the same blades as the Iron Sisters.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like if it was like a bullet, like, well,
Speaker 1: wouldn't they all be sort of fairly into I just
Speaker 1: put myself in the eyes. What are you doing? God?
Speaker 1: Do I didn't do on purpose? Catherine, Relax, It's enough.
Speaker 1: How do you. Um no, I guess not. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: all made from the same metal. Sorry, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be a professional. This is as professional as I get.
Speaker 1: Holy Ship, it's only five thirty. I'm on vacation. I
Speaker 1: am my best friends over. I'm on vacation. Yes you are, okay,
Speaker 1: Sassy Joel Abelle is back. Yeah, he's again like another
Speaker 1: one of our guys who just like nails his character.
Speaker 1: And he's actually arguably of all of our guest stars,
Speaker 1: possibly the least like his character like up there for sure,
Speaker 1: aside from like Luke Bain's and Will Tutor. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, like murdering psychopaths or the Luke No, I'm kidding,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. We'll flash back to this little clip when
Speaker 1: we have him on the show. I should text him
Speaker 1: and see how he's doing. Yeah, oh, I forgot that.
Speaker 1: Um Clary was the one that clocked that she was
Speaker 1: that Luke's suspicions were correct, because Cliff has calls her
Speaker 1: Clarissa mm hmm, and that's the ding ding. But hey,
Speaker 1: this is our chance to find Valentine, so let's play
Speaker 1: along because that's smart. Yeah, yeah, why not? Well, I
Speaker 1: finally Jesus I'm back with the Simon Jacene. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's so good also. So the issue with when they
Speaker 1: let us play is Alberto is so funny, like so
Speaker 1: funny as a human being, and then him as Simon
Speaker 1: is so brilliant because he's he's wildly intelligent and he
Speaker 1: gets he fully understands who Simon is. He mix is
Speaker 1: two things together. And I'm watching. I'm looking at my
Speaker 1: face right now, and I'm like, oh, I can see
Speaker 1: you not trying to laugh. I can see it in
Speaker 1: your in your body. You are trying so hard not
Speaker 1: to laugh because I didn't know who's going to say.
Speaker 1: And every time he would say something it was funnier
Speaker 1: than the last time. Of course, would get me. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of looking away. I'm looking away a lot,
Speaker 1: and that's because I have to look at something like,
Speaker 1: aren't funny. I'm gonna look at those instead. That's what's happening.
Speaker 1: I'm cheating, ladies and gents. I'm cheating. That's what's happening.
Speaker 1: I am cheating as an actor. I also love you too,
Speaker 1: doing impressions of each other. It kind of it. Really,
Speaker 1: it really makes me happy. So good, this was really fun.
Speaker 1: This is the little It reminds me of how what's
Speaker 1: that movie the Steve Karl Ryan Garsling Crazy Stupid Love.
Speaker 1: This is like the Crazy Stuple Love montage, but just
Speaker 1: condensed down into one scene for you too, and I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: In fact, a lot of our relationship is like that.
Speaker 1: It's very like that sort of dynamic, which is really good.
Speaker 1: Rom Hm, I love, I Love, I love the banter
Speaker 1: that you too actually get to have. You know that
Speaker 1: this is that theory. It plays into that theory that
Speaker 1: if Clary hadn't been between you two, you two would
Speaker 1: have been best friends the whole time. Like there's no
Speaker 1: denying this in my mind, Like if Ja's genuinely didn't
Speaker 1: like someone, there's no there's no world in which this
Speaker 1: scene would have happened, Like no world in which Jason
Speaker 1: likes Simon from the get go, Like from the minute
Speaker 1: one he liked Simon, but Clary was in the way.
Speaker 1: Clary was the you know, there's a listen, it all
Speaker 1: ends up okay, except for you. You lose all your memory.
Speaker 1: Got the little the little twirl of the seller to Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's well, is why I don't have a stelle in
Speaker 1: season two. Be that's well because I kept breaking them.
Speaker 1: They let do it. He does such a good you.
Speaker 1: It blows my mind. He does a good me. He
Speaker 1: does do it me. But I remember there was a
Speaker 1: day on set where Alberta was like, all right, I
Speaker 1: gotta show you this. Tell me honestly does this look
Speaker 1: like dumb? And he switched into his Jace impression, did
Speaker 1: the whole walk, and everything in my mind was just blown.
Speaker 1: He worked so hard on this. Bless him. Good stuff.
Speaker 1: They're just they again, not to the makeup team. So
Speaker 1: I'm the scene with Easy and Alex just another little
Speaker 1: nod to the makeup scene. They're just slowly starting to
Speaker 1: mess with the Emeralds look just the tiniest little bit
Speaker 1: like she's just starting to come out of the other
Speaker 1: side of addiction. UM again, if anyone out there has
Speaker 1: any concerns about yourself, thoughts, problems with addiction, or with
Speaker 1: friends or family, anyone, we will attach a link to
Speaker 1: this um with safe places to call and and go
Speaker 1: and get Advisor help. We'll attach you to this. But
Speaker 1: the makeup team do do an incredible job here of
Speaker 1: starting to make her look like, how do you make
Speaker 1: Emerald not look good? You know what? I mean, but
Speaker 1: they're sort of just toying with the idea little little bits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's incredible. Why did we not do that thing of
Speaker 1: throwing the different stuff to different screens more? That was
Speaker 1: so cool? Honestly, there are there are a bunch of
Speaker 1: like cool things that we do in the show, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, why didn't this become like a theme that
Speaker 1: we do every single time? This is really cool. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Probably because it was expensive, That would be
Speaker 1: my guess is that it's expensive. It's like, oh, we have,
Speaker 1: you know, extra dollars of the VFX budgeo for this episode.
Speaker 1: Let's throw some things around screens. I don't know. We
Speaker 1: got a little ahead of ourselves this time. We've got
Speaker 1: some spare money. Let's spend it. Finds out that we've
Speaker 1: got spare money. Never is it again? It's great, yeah
Speaker 1: exactly because they take it back if they find out
Speaker 1: you've got to spare money, They're like, great, give it
Speaker 1: back to us now we're sure. Oh you just tasted
Speaker 1: Luke in the back. Oh that's ready forgot I forgot
Speaker 1: about that pun intended, but whoof Yeah, sorry, Luke. I
Speaker 1: love that look that little look he gives at the end,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I'm so pissed, but I'm kind of
Speaker 1: proud of you, kind of like fair enough. Yeah good.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's the whole thing. There was a
Speaker 1: storm coming, which is why the lightning, the angel and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Yeah, oh my god, I just remembered
Speaker 1: how this scene ends. Which one this scene this this episode.
Speaker 1: I just remember how this episode ends. Yeah, smooching more Smogen,
Speaker 1: so much smootion in this episode. Manus nelck Okay. He
Speaker 1: walks in the door and he's like, I'm at smooth you.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good smooche. That's a solid smooch. Magnus
Speaker 1: putting the brakes on, which also like fucking damn good boyfriend.
Speaker 1: That is a damn good boyfriend thing to do. Like no, no,
Speaker 1: I just like once you've got the sort of capacity
Speaker 1: to semi read each other and you're like and she,
Speaker 1: I think you're doing this for the wrong reasons and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna And it doesn't just come down to sex necessarily.
Speaker 1: It comes down to all fasts of life where are
Speaker 1: like WHOA, let's hold up, like, let's discuss this, let's
Speaker 1: get through this as a process together. Yeah. Again, the
Speaker 1: healthiest relationship on the show these two. Yeah, always ye, God,
Speaker 1: we're in the alleyway. I can see it in your
Speaker 1: eyes that you're cold, Like I can see the you know,
Speaker 1: when it's so cold and the wind hits your eyes
Speaker 1: and it it's so cold that you almost start to
Speaker 1: tear up a little. I can see it. It's fucking rough, dude, Toronto,
Speaker 1: and we're not even in the winter yet, like this
Speaker 1: is like but they also brought in one of those
Speaker 1: industrial fans as well to blow wind down the alley
Speaker 1: for the storm. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't help. What's happening
Speaker 1: to you right now? What's this? What's the Oh you're
Speaker 1: hearing angel screams of the angel? Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Then if it's the angel screaming, then maybe we don't
Speaker 1: use it again because we don't come in contact with
Speaker 1: another angel. I do, right, come on, we're coming contact
Speaker 1: you summon one a couple of times, really, well, that's
Speaker 1: a thurial that comes back later. He comes back one
Speaker 1: more time. I'm in the words room, yeah, the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and then Lita does the thing and we had a
Speaker 1: pig thing. It's coming, yeah, it's coming. Sorry in this
Speaker 1: fucking show, I remember nothing. You were in this show,
Speaker 1: but you were not in that scene. Got it? Got it?
Speaker 1: Guys getting dragged by chains. Yeah, that's bad. There's some
Speaker 1: slow motions. I'll tell you this right now. Nobody doesn't
Speaker 1: look good in slow motion. Everybody. Valentine is torturing a
Speaker 1: literal angel right now, and it's in slow motion, and
Speaker 1: he still looks cool. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: There's something about slow motion. It makes you look good.
Speaker 1: It's true. It's so Alan van Sparring. I think probably yeah, yea,
Speaker 1: his gravitas, yes, indeed, oh yeah, and that's right there.
Speaker 1: So I activate Clef. This is hearing room so she
Speaker 1: can hear it as well. M hm. Why isn't that
Speaker 1: something we do later on, like with the werewolves or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like, that's why he's a crimes
Speaker 1: like so quickly. Why don't we just have like centuries
Speaker 1: shadow hunters that constantly have activated and like great, like
Speaker 1: forty eight and seven. Get down there now, this is happening,
Speaker 1: You're like perfect, go on, there so many questions, so
Speaker 1: many questions, many questions. Yeah, Claric good idea accused the
Speaker 1: person the murderer in front of you of her crime
Speaker 1: while you're alone and in an alley way. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: your skills are coming along a little bit. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know if you'd be able to take down an
Speaker 1: iron sister on your own, But maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But she's she's changed her tune because you know, capturing
Speaker 1: an angel is apparently too far for her moral company.
Speaker 1: No kidding, no kidding, Dowtine's harmon angel and everything we
Speaker 1: love will be destroyed. Yeah, this is it. I remember
Speaker 1: the wind this day. I remember this. All of us
Speaker 1: are shivering, all of us look like cold Isaiah, steady
Speaker 1: as a rock, steady as a rock. It's just like
Speaker 1: completely fine. Because in Isaiah this was also his bulletproof
Speaker 1: coffee phase, which I think had a lot to do
Speaker 1: with it. Mm hm, that's true, that is true. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: please don't shoot your sister. Why are you trying to?
Speaker 1: Why are you trying to? Why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: What are you talking? These bad vampires also for seed,
Speaker 1: like Ali vampires. They're all dressed very well, well, they're vampires,
Speaker 1: I know, I get it, but they also like they
Speaker 1: don't look like your standards bad. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: a bad vampire look like, you're right, I'm wrong. Okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough, Let's move on. Let's move on. Simon's being
Speaker 1: super cute with Mary brought the Blade Runner Collector's edition.
Speaker 1: Super cute. She's still reading Jane Are, Yeah, she is.
Speaker 1: She's further along, though she calls him out. Ad Actors
Speaker 1: follow where they're at, right, this is a really really
Speaker 1: smart thing to do. I remember I did a play
Speaker 1: once years and years and years ago, and I was
Speaker 1: doing it. I've seen with a girl who was reading
Speaker 1: a book and when I come in, she gets distracted
Speaker 1: and she stops reading the book. And our first night
Speaker 1: on stage, she'd never done this from rehearsals, but her
Speaker 1: first night on stage, she stops reading the book and
Speaker 1: she just goes quickly and foot and it dog is
Speaker 1: her page and then shuts the book. And it was
Speaker 1: the It was one of those things where I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you're destined to do this for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: Like that's it's such an instinctual, like your character wants
Speaker 1: to know where they're at, but so subconsciously and wants
Speaker 1: to do this as well, so they It's just a
Speaker 1: thing that happened, and it was so good at almost like,
Speaker 1: it's those little nuances and it almost made me lose
Speaker 1: my place. I was like, that's freaking awesome. A little things,
Speaker 1: so little things. Speaking of the little things are not
Speaker 1: so little things. Maya fully called Simon up for being
Speaker 1: in love with Clary. Yeah, I hear everything, hear everything,
Speaker 1: all the dating advice left right in center. Does he
Speaker 1: look up with Maya for you or after you? After me?
Speaker 1: Because you hook up with Maya while Clarie and Simon together? Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: you're right right. I think they just say we're just
Speaker 1: going to be friends. And then you're right because the
Speaker 1: dinner scene, you're right is after yep, yep, yep, and
Speaker 1: they're going to go and watch Blade Runner. Oh look
Speaker 1: at this fight between between Lisa and Allan. Well done, Lisa,
Speaker 1: Barry solid. Some of these are my favorite fights, by
Speaker 1: the way, the ones almost where we like not almost,
Speaker 1: I mean they're almost my favorite fights. They weren't almost fights,
Speaker 1: they were regular fights, but there Some of these are
Speaker 1: my favorites where we don't use the weapons. It was
Speaker 1: just like brawling and Luke Isaiah got to do a
Speaker 1: lot of this and it was really cool, like watching
Speaker 1: these this just like the animals kind of take over.
Speaker 1: These were really cool. However, this is one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the scene of us walking up the
Speaker 1: stairs or that where we did that scene? Ah, it
Speaker 1: was on the way to the stunt office, right Like,
Speaker 1: this was literally just a hallway in the office, a
Speaker 1: staircase in the office of our production office. And they
Speaker 1: repainted it and made it look all gross and old
Speaker 1: and you know, dilapidated. Um, just for this little tiny scene,
Speaker 1: not even a scene, like the preface to a scene.
Speaker 1: It's like the an a crucis to a scene. I
Speaker 1: just remember we had to say this dialogue so fast
Speaker 1: because the staircase was so short and six stairs. We
Speaker 1: had six stairs to say these words on, you know,
Speaker 1: because like let's say it's a twelve staircase staircase, twelve
Speaker 1: stair staircase, three or four of those stairs are taken
Speaker 1: up by the camera crew. Mhm. Then mathematically I've taken
Speaker 1: away three or four from twelve and ended up with six.
Speaker 1: That's just where we're at. We're just going to leave
Speaker 1: that there and move on. We're just gonna move on.
Speaker 1: No words need to be said, but don't make sure
Speaker 1: well this scene, this fight scene, I think, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, was the first major scene we shot on
Speaker 1: our three sixty degree green screen. Um, and they had
Speaker 1: but they had practical lighting rig lightning rig, so our
Speaker 1: our DP could press a button and the lightning would
Speaker 1: happen and that really it would go off. But I
Speaker 1: loved doing this scene. This is also our first scene
Speaker 1: right out in This is our first Clary j scene
Speaker 1: out in the wilds. That isn't like training or whatever.
Speaker 1: This is. This might be our first fight scene. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it is our first fight scene that you
Speaker 1: and I did all of Yeah, because I think this
Speaker 1: was by this time we had trained with Darren and
Speaker 1: Dino enough where we had gotten to a point where
Speaker 1: they trusted us to do the whole fight and we
Speaker 1: were able to do it. I mean, obviously you know,
Speaker 1: Aaron and Mary ever were there, but they they just
Speaker 1: end up using us, Yeah, which I was I was
Speaker 1: really proud of because you and I were really yeah,
Speaker 1: me too, me too. Yeah, And this was the one.
Speaker 1: This wasn't this the granite smoke day. Yes, when we
Speaker 1: turned up and the granite it was they So they
Speaker 1: went down very often. They went down the floors, which
Speaker 1: we don't talk about that much, but we haven't really
Speaker 1: seen the Shadow Hunters prison yet and that's where they
Speaker 1: really went down the floors and it was a nightmare.
Speaker 1: But they have things. Floors look better than wet floors
Speaker 1: have It looked better than regular floors, apparently on screen.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but our floors were constantly fucking wet,
Speaker 1: and so they when they made this. There's little bits
Speaker 1: of like shale of granite throughout this and they wet
Speaker 1: it down overnight and then in the morning it all
Speaker 1: dried up and just this like powdery granite was in
Speaker 1: the air. So we did our first rehearsal and neither
Speaker 1: of us could breathe. We were like going on, like
Speaker 1: what do they just breathe or see um? So they
Speaker 1: had to go back and like between takes, had to
Speaker 1: spray it all down so there wasn't the powder in
Speaker 1: the air that we were breathing it, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was really something and also the camera crew did
Speaker 1: an amazing job on this one. They really did it. Also.
Speaker 1: Ever since this, this flight scene is stuck with me
Speaker 1: because you know, fight scenes always seemed to be in
Speaker 1: a storm during lightning when there's wind right and as
Speaker 1: someone who has very long hair that's often down in
Speaker 1: these fight scenes that becomes a bit of a problem.
Speaker 1: But I was so glad that I had this experience
Speaker 1: because I remember being um. I was on Arrow during
Speaker 1: one of our season finales and I had to do
Speaker 1: a fight scene on top of a ten foot wall
Speaker 1: without a wire. But that was about maybe six or
Speaker 1: seven ft wide. Yeah, but it was like ten ft
Speaker 1: off the ground and they put stunt mats on either
Speaker 1: side of it. But my hair was literally it was.
Speaker 1: It was all wind and our stunt team. They were
Speaker 1: in masks as well, so nobody could see, and they
Speaker 1: had light going off and all this crazy stuff. But
Speaker 1: I always kept thinking back to this fight scene and
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I got through this one, so you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully I won't fall off this wall. That's interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have questions about that, but they guys, look at
Speaker 1: that flip. Look at that gainer that you're doing, Dan, dude.
Speaker 1: That was the one that was the one that got me.
Speaker 1: That was when Dean and I, Dean and I, Darren
Speaker 1: and I had that conversation of like, do my hip
Speaker 1: hurts and He's like, yeah, man, it will, Like if
Speaker 1: you want to do stunts. You don't come to me
Speaker 1: every time you've got a little bruise. You come to
Speaker 1: me when you do something's really wrong or you feel unsafe,
Speaker 1: and then we take care of it. But like you
Speaker 1: want to do your stunts, you're gonna get bruised up. Yeah. Sorry,
Speaker 1: the guy just did the arm break and the way
Speaker 1: that he'd like contorted his arm to make it look
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, the double slice take that man down.
Speaker 1: So satisfied with the overhead shot, the solid overhead shot
Speaker 1: when we timed it out correctly, Yeah, dude. And I
Speaker 1: remember this was again one of the early times where
Speaker 1: I saw Darren. Darren used to do this thing where
Speaker 1: he would sit behind the monitors, and I'm sure he
Speaker 1: still does this, but he's so invested in what we're
Speaker 1: doing and you'd see him like jumping up and down
Speaker 1: like a little kid, like like doing what we're doing.
Speaker 1: And then when it works, he's like yes, yes, and
Speaker 1: that excitement builds within us as well. And that was
Speaker 1: this was one of the first times that I really
Speaker 1: saw it and you could sell like we were done
Speaker 1: with our shot and we turned around and he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we fucking nailed it, and that makes us feel great, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a really cool, cool one. It's like when
Speaker 1: you're you know, playing sports, and you look over and
Speaker 1: you just see your coach beaming with pride. That's that's
Speaker 1: all you want, right. Yeah, we never get to hear
Speaker 1: Gray Mark anymore. Sorry, I'm back in the scene with
Speaker 1: Valentine and Cleophus and Luke Man the sibling relationships. Valentine
Speaker 1: just loves to manipulate them, doesn't he. Of course, no,
Speaker 1: he didn't steal Jocelyn. You became a monster. There's a difference. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: this is on you, buddy, This is on you. How
Speaker 1: do they get out of this? Clearphus pulls a pulls
Speaker 1: a move and they both get away, and both get away,
Speaker 1: and then we tried free the Angel, not working, not working.
Speaker 1: I think these are the practical wings. You know, Jason
Speaker 1: just starts hacking at the at the change, Yeah, of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: like yeah, he's he's an instrument. He's a blunt instrument.
Speaker 1: That's what he does. He's a hacker, that's what he does.
Speaker 1: I think those are the real wings. I think we
Speaker 1: got the shot with the real wings. I think we
Speaker 1: did because I remember we did one that they like
Speaker 1: they tried. I have to say this gentleman did an
Speaker 1: amazing job with his moment, and it it lived on
Speaker 1: in our set. In fact, every time that we were
Speaker 1: having a hard day or something was going wrong, or
Speaker 1: you know, Murphy's Law came into play on our set,
Speaker 1: our camera operators would use this moment over and over again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Those are the practical wings. Those are definitely the practical wings.
Speaker 1: They are right, Yeah, I think they were enhanced probably
Speaker 1: a little bit. But well, that's right, and we grab
Speaker 1: his hands m hmm, because I guess you know what
Speaker 1: our potential near future means. Oh right, this is the
Speaker 1: first angelic visions. That's right, Burn Lasagna man. But he
Speaker 1: doesn't look like burn as man in this. He looks good. No,
Speaker 1: that that hand looks more like my demon curse hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's like goal, it's got like gold bits in it.
Speaker 1: It's it's like it's by design, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does like a little burnt I guess. And the
Speaker 1: nails either way, I think it looks fabulous. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Way to go, folks, VFX. And then the angel goes
Speaker 1: into the sky and we go, what did we just see?
Speaker 1: What did we just see and that is the end
Speaker 1: of our episode for another day. You know, I have
Speaker 1: to apologize because I thought we were doing so badly
Speaker 1: with time. We have nailed it again. We have absolutely
Speaker 1: nailed it. I just looked at our timing. We have
Speaker 1: crushed this one. We did a fantastic job. It's probably you.
Speaker 1: You're better at time keeping the me and we do
Speaker 1: a good I can only guarantee that it was you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I gotta credit both of us because
Speaker 1: we we each loved the tangent and get caught in
Speaker 1: a story or this or that when it comes to
Speaker 1: the show and we do a really good job at
Speaker 1: bringing each other in. We do. We bring each other
Speaker 1: back into it. We work well together. Go figure, Go figure.
Speaker 1: Well until next time, ladies and gentlemen, It's been a
Speaker 1: pleasure as always. Cat, good talking to you, and we'll
Speaker 1: see you soon. Have fun with the gang. Give them
Speaker 1: my love, of course, send it back. Returned to the
Speaker 1: Shadows is hosted and executive produced by me Katheryne McNamara
Speaker 1: and Dominic Sherwood. Our executive producer is Langley. Our senior
Speaker 1: producers are Liz Hayes and Diego Tabia. Our producers are
Speaker 1: Hannah Harris and Kristin Vermilia, and our intern is Sam Katz.
Speaker 1: Original music by Alex Kinsey and performed by Alex Kinsey
Speaker 1: and Katheryn McNamara. The episode was mixed by Seth the Landscape.
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