1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, straight 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Fire Fan, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Thursday, April, 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: also known as Draft Day. It's here. It took me 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: seven mock drafts, yes, seven, over the last year. You 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: guys know, I do one the day after, a couple 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: of days after the draft. So it's been twelve months. 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: I've filed seven mock drafts and the draft is finally here. 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm so fired up about tonight the NFL Draft. Fun fact, 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: though I have not seen the movie Draft Day starring 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Costner, i've seen parts of it. I've probably seen 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: about you know. I'm one of those guys who when 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm working, whether it's writing a piece, um, you know, 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: prepping for the podcast, or right before I go to bed, 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm like cycling through hbos in the MAC showtime and 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: occasionally Draft Day will be on and I'll be like, oh, 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: this looks interesting, and you'll watch a little bit, and 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: then it'll hit a lull and you're switching the channel. Hello. 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't have the attention span that I need. Um, 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: And it's weird if you miss a sports movie in 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: the cinema. I usually don't you know you used to 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: like rent it back in the day. I'm Blockbuster and 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: um now it's like you just have to wait for 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: it on cable. But it's not like appointment viewing, right, 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: You're not. It's been like six months since the movies 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: in theaters. People have talked about it. You've seen enough spoilers. 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: You're just like, so, I I need to carve time 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: out to actually watch it. It's like that Kurt Warner 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: movie that came out, that Kurt Warner football movie came out. 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: I think around Christmas there were some people asking have 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: you seen it? Are you're gonna watch It? Was like, okay, yeah, 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: I forgot, And now I see that it's on Disney 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: or wherever streaming service it's on, and I told the kids, 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: let's watch it. I look at the time, I'm like, oh, 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: how am I gonna watch this in one night? This 35 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: is like, you know, if you guys have young kids, 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Uh, it's like a two 37 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: night deal. Like I will start it today then maybe 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: finish it tomorrow. I think I said this on the pod, 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: like I started Batman five days ago, the new one 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: with Pattinson. I haven't even picked it up. I haven't 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: been able to the draft week. Were slammed. I said, 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: we got Chappelle tickets tonight and be a playoffs gambling. 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: Uh we did. We did a Fox show. I'm doing 44 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: the Herd today. It's just been a busy, busy week. 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: I got the soccer tournament coming up. So here's what 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna do on today's podcast. Since it's Draft Day, 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: will skip out on the Bucks and the Warriors. I'm 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: not even really gonna talk about tonight's games because truth 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: be told, I'm gonna be locked in on the draft 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: once the draft starts. Between trades analysis, uh, figuring out 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: next year's depth chart, like wins, losses, all that stuff, 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: Like there's really not time to watch Raptors Sixers Game six. 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: I'll have it on TV two, no doubt, but my 54 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: focus will be the draft. So if you look at rebets, 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: put them on the ground. I'll put them on Twitter 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: later on. But for today, we're gonna here's what we're 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: gonna do. First, we're gonna bring on Jermaine Johnson, Florida 58 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: State defensive end ed rusher should probably go in the 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: top sixteen seventeen. There's scuttle butt about him in the Jets, 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: a lot about him in the Vikings at twelve, and 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to him. He's visiting us through Gillette 62 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: and Gillette Labs. They gave us an opportunity to talk 63 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: to him ten minutes. Sure, he's in Vegas. I think 64 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: you'll like it. By the way, he was on that 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: documentary Last Chance You on Netflix. I I did not 66 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: know that. I've never seen that. In addition, we got 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: the Daily Double today. We're bringing our former NFL scout 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: Brentley Weissman used to work for the Chargers, was in 69 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: the war room when they drafted Derwin James. You'll like that. 70 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: He's currently scouting for the Draft Network. He also is 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: in Vegas. Good time to be in Vegas. Not sure 72 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: why I'm not there, but as I said, we got 73 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: a busy week. So here's what we'll do. We'll dive 74 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: into that. We'll save the NBA for tomorrow, mostly NFL tomorrow, 75 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: but there will be NBA. If something crazy happens, like 76 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 1: the MAVs lose, they won't. We'll do a little NBA, 77 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: but it'll be heavy NFL because guys, this is really 78 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: the last NFL pit stop for a while, Like after this, 79 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: it's NBA playoffs, it's a little Major League Baseball, and 80 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: then it's summer break and next thing you know, like 81 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: the kids are getting ready to go back to school 82 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: and football is here. So let's dive into it with 83 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson from Florida State. Jermaine, how you doing, my man? 84 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing it so good? Man? How are you guys doing? 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm awesome, can't complain. Life is good. Love the draft. 86 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: I am curious right off the bat. Do you have 87 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: a big party schedule? Is there a big gathering? Do 88 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: you guys have anything or did you kind of tone 89 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: that down and tell your parents? Hey, man, we're not 90 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: doing anything for when for for the draft afterwards? Yeah? 91 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Come on, man, what do you got? You you got 92 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: you got a club lined up? You got some awesome 93 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: tickets somewhere. I mean, you gotta have something. It'll be 94 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: a movie. Wow kind of low key, huh. I thought 95 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: you want to celebrate, you know, I mean you've worked 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: at this for what over a decade? Right? Oh yeah, 97 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: and it'll be celebrated correctly. Um. I am curious how 98 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: you like in Vegas so far? I'm loving it, man. 99 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: It's my first time out here. But I'm just loving 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: my family being out here. You know, I'm being able 101 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: to enjoy the moment with them. Um. Yeah, I kid 102 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: from Minneapolis. I've read your bio and um, the Vikings 103 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: are in desperate need of an edge rusher at twelve? 104 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Have you? Could you talk a little bit about the Vikings? 105 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, did you grow up a fan? Have you 106 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: met with them multiple times and he visits, do you 107 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: get a vibe that there could be something there? Uh? Yeah, 108 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I grew up watching them. We've been 109 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: a fan. Um, but yeah, I've talked to them, uh 110 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: a couple of times in this process. Um, but yeah, 111 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: if I find up going there, I'd be awesome. Is 112 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: this is the process? I mean it's been going on 113 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: for what now, geez, like four months? I mean since 114 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: you dominated and wrecked the Senior Bowl. You know? Is 115 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: it the kind of thing where you're just like excited 116 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: that we're at the finish line? I mean, where where 117 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: are you mentally like? Is it kind of just like, man, 118 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: can this can we get this over with? It's been forever. 119 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm excited to get on my team work hard in camp. Uh, 120 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: you're the best teammate I can be and start winning 121 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: some games. Um, I'm you know, Uh, Last Chance you 122 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: on Netflix obviously a huge deal. Do do A lot 123 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: of people bring that up to you when they meet you. 124 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: Obviously hugely popular and you know you were on there. Yeah, 125 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: it's a It's a pretty frequent question, especially because I'm 126 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: not on it that much or not featured on it 127 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: that much. Um. That was actually a preference of mine. 128 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: You know, they wanted me to be kind of a 129 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: feature guy on there, but I was kind of focused 130 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: on the main thing, which is football. Um. But yes, 131 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: it's a pretty frequently asked question, and that was a 132 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: great time. I am curious where you are. You know, 133 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: you you're right leaving school just as N I L 134 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: is beginning to take off. Um, any overriding thoughts on that, 135 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: I know it sounds like, you know, hey, you had 136 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: a chance to be huge on Last Chance. You said 137 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna focus on football. I'm assuming that you're reading 138 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: a lot about the N I L versus football and 139 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: is it a distraction the kids are getting paid? Where 140 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: are you on that? Uh? In my thoughts about it, yeah, 141 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a great opportunity to 142 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: be quite honest, um, because especially in the sport we play, 143 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: it's dangerous. You don't know what can happen in our 144 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: rapid even in practice. Um, and all your work and 145 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: hard work to your dreams, you can just go down 146 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: to drain. Uh. And so for for for your only 147 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to make some money, get some money in your pocket, 148 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: for it only to be in the NFL. I think 149 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy. So now you know, you've got kids, 150 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: You've got kids making legitimate money money six you know, 151 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: dollar amounts. I think that's awesome because now you know, 152 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: say say that someone does get that injury or something 153 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: unlikely happens, and now they're done playing football. Hey, they 154 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: established themselves not only with their finances but also with 155 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: relationships with brands, So you know, now they're they're out 156 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: there in the corporate world. I am curious, you know, 157 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: as you're obviously enjoying a great season last year. You know, 158 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure the n I L people came after you. 159 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: A lot of companies came after you big time. How 160 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: did you handle dealing with that? Knowing that you know what, 161 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to the league next year, I'm gonna be drafted. 162 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: You've been on mock drafts for first round around for 163 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: a long time. Um, how did you handle like saying 164 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: notice the people versus what you accepted. That's just the thing. 165 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: I didn't really handle it. I trust my agency to 166 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: handle that, um, which they did it in from this job. Um. 167 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: So I mean it made that pretty easy on me. 168 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: Like I said, I like focusing on the main thing, 169 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: which is football. Um, none of this would be possible. 170 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you if if 171 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: it were so, I mean all the main thing. I 172 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: want to go back to the combine real quick. Well 173 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. Let's go back to the Senior 174 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: Bowl when you totally dominated. I am curious, like the 175 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: mindset going into the Senior Bowl was what like, Okay, 176 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wreck the I'm gonna wreck things. I'm gonna 177 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: just totally crush the competition. But you know, leading into it, 178 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: did you kind of notice that day this is an opportunity. 179 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: I had a lot of the younger guys don't. How 180 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: can I take advantage of it? Yeah? I guess I 181 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: kind of went in with a chip on my shoulder. Um, 182 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: because even seeing like you know, after the year I 183 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: had and and and whatnot at for the state. Still 184 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: you know, kind of being disrespected in a sense I 185 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: was kind to was kind of upset, and you know what, 186 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: what better opportunity do you have to then it goes 187 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: to the bigger stage amongst the nation's you know best 188 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: uh talent, and then destroy them there because then you 189 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: don't have a rebuttal for that. What are you gonna say? So? Uh, 190 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 1: that's how kind of how I looked in and I 191 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: played every snap kind of you know, with that chip, 192 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: and uh, you know I ended up being able to 193 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: do what I did there. So I gotta ask you 194 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: said that, you know, being ranked behind certain guys, how 195 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: often are you, your colleagues, your buddies looking at some 196 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: of the mock drafts that are out. Um, because we've 197 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: had you at Fox, we've had you in the mock 198 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: draft all along. But I am I am curious how 199 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: often you're looking at him. It's kind of tough to 200 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: ignore him, right, Uh not really. I mean, if my 201 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: agent wants to look at it, he can, you know, 202 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of his thing. Um what he sends to me. 203 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: I guess I take again, but I don't really worry 204 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: too much about it. I know, I got a ball 205 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: wherever I go anyway. Alright, so Senior Bowl you do 206 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: extremely well, then let's go to the Combine. I am curious. 207 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: This was kind of a weird year at the Combine. 208 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: It was, you know, the post COVID coming out of it. 209 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on just how it went down, and do 210 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: your experience there. It's awesome experience, man, I think hats 211 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: to be around literally all the best UH football players 212 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: at the college level in the nation, and you know, 213 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: we're all going through the same thing. So you know, 214 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: sometimes it seems like some guys just go there alone 215 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: and you know, not with their team anymore. Well, no, 216 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: we're you know, we're all going through the same thing, 217 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: in the same process and chasing the same goal. So 218 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: it was awesome experience. And you know, I would like 219 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: to say, through this whole process, any problems, you have 220 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: a good problem, Like, you're going through this process, you're 221 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: at a combine, you're at a Senior Bowl. You know, 222 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: you're on zoom with yourself, Like what what what can 223 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: you complain about? Yeah, this is a pretty pretty good outlook. 224 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: I like that when you met with teams everybody's favorite 225 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: question is what are some of the craziest questions you 226 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: were at? Did anything catch you off guard completely? Uh no, 227 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: not really. Everything was pretty you know on par I 228 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: don't think they're allowed to add anything pretty intense or 229 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: as intense to state, you know, once we're able to Yeah, 230 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: because it's clearly like one of the fun stories that 231 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: comes out of the combine whackiest question and if you notice, 232 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: there's not a not a lot of it's leaking out anymore. 233 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, is that you think from the team's 234 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: not asking or um, were they just straight up all 235 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: football questions or anybody go family, outside life, outside interests. Yeah, 236 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's all I don't think. I 237 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: really don't think they're allowed to ask anything to off 238 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: the roads or actually they get in trouble. Um, So 239 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: I think it's it's been all pretty much spensive this 240 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: year and and really cleaned up. Um. I am curious. 241 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: You know you're in Vegas obviously, party capital of the 242 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: United States. This is only your first time there. How 243 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: have you not been to Vegas before? I gotta ask 244 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: that because I've been keeping the main thing, the main thing, man, 245 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: I've been chasing this for quite a long time, you know, 246 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: five years in college, three different institutions, so I don't 247 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: really had time to come and enjoy some some nice 248 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: out in Vegas. Can I ask about Georgia? How what 249 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: you know? You go Juco, You landed Georgia. Um, and 250 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: and then it left quick pretty quickly after that, Like 251 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: what went down to Georgia? I didn't. I actually didn't 252 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: leave pretty quickly and was actually I was there for 253 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: two years, the longest out of any of my institutions. UM. 254 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: But no, nothing went down. It was just a really 255 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: saturated room. And you know I knew that. You know, 256 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: I had to fix a couple of narratives to the 257 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: league and you know, let them know kind of player 258 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: that I know I am. When you say narratives, what 259 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: are the ones floating out that you that irked you? Uh? 260 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: The previous ones that were floating out before this twenty 261 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: one season were kind of question marks on my violence, 262 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, my round stopping ability, you know, obviously past 263 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: rushing ability. I just in the Georgia scheme, I was 264 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: more of a sandbacker who dropped a lot and stuff 265 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: like that. So you know, the league only knew what 266 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: they saw, so I knew I had to, you know, 267 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: transfer and go somewhere, and I chose Florida State and 268 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: just aligned perfectly. And you know it's a win win, 269 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: and you know I would do it all over again. 270 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: You know. We talked to a lot of draft prospects 271 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: as we wrap up here. Um, and I gotta say 272 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: a lot of them, you know, not really you know, polished. Uh. 273 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've done a lot of interviews. Huh. You 274 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: are twenty three years old, so you sound much more 275 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: mature and uh, you know, kind of with it than 276 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: other some of the other prospects. Do you think that 277 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: age has helped you, not only on the football field, 278 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: but doing doing these media interviews? Uh? Yeah, for sure. 279 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean I just you know, I'm a smart guy. 280 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: I've always been a pretty good interviewer. Um. And and 281 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: a lot of that is just being comfortable with who 282 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: you are as a person. Um. You know, I don't 283 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: have to act any difference. I don't have to try 284 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: to impress anybody. I'm very happy with who I am. Um. So, 285 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean that just goes into play off. You know 286 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: how well I interview, Um, I don't. I don't try 287 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: to be anything I'm not so I don't know if 288 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: it's my age, but it's definitely um, you know, my 289 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: outlook clear maturity there. So how did you decide a 290 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: partner with you Lette for the draft? I mean, Gilette 291 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: and I shared the overall you know, out of offidence 292 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: and how important that is to you because if you 293 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: look good, you feel good, and and we just aligned 294 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: perfectly on that. And I'm very grateful to Gilette for 295 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: helping make sure I look and feel my best on 296 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft right carpet. Hey, Jermaine, congratulations on all 297 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: your success and Gillette obviously last chance you f s 298 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: U and hey, if you live with my Jets, man, 299 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be talking down the road. Let's do it, Jason, 300 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: hold you to that too, all right man? Thanks a lot, Yes, sir. 301 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 302 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 303 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app. 304 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: Search f s R to listen live. Jason likes to 305 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: think he knows everything when it comes to sports. I 306 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: know what sports dance want, but for everything he doesn't, 307 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: he knows a guy who does. Let's just say I know, 308 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy. 309 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome in, uh continuing our draft coverage 310 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: here on Straight Fire. A guy who put out his 311 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: final big board this week, and I think you're gonna 312 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: be shocked. Where Trayvon Walker, the probable number one pick 313 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: in the draft is he is? Brentley Weise and Brentley, 314 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: how you doing, man? Jason doing well? Man in Vegas 315 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: at the draft at the Draft House for the Draft Network. 316 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good week. Very excited. Yeah. Is 317 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: that is this like an influencer house? Basically? One of 318 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: those deals is that is that it's just so think 319 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: of the war room meets and and MTV cribs, Like 320 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of the viber going with where it's like 321 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: we'll have a bunch of rooms where they're kind of 322 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: decked out branded will help you hosting interviews for prospects, um, 323 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of players families coming in and now it's 324 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: a really cool spot for this a players kind of 325 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: get up the strip, you know, shoot some content that 326 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: really just kind of chill out. Actually you can a 327 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: quantu literally just left and so you know, we've got 328 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: some other cool prospects coming on along. But again, man, 329 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: it couldn't be more excited for this week. So we'll 330 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: start with the KWANDU. So it's we're recording this on Wednesday, 331 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: a little more than twenty four hours before the draft, 332 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: and there's still uncertainty rains at the top. The volatility 333 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: in the gambling markets is crazy. I mean, Aquanu apparently 334 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: he's not gonna go one. Apparently he's not gonna go 335 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: to Is there a scenario where he tumbles down the 336 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: draft board to three or five with the Giants? Like, 337 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: what are you seeing for a quantu? And by the way, 338 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: I am curious you were You've been around a lot 339 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: of prospects. Everybody's saying he's only a guard in the league. 340 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Does he have tackle size when you met him? Oh? Yeah, 341 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean this guy is a massive human being, Jason. 342 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's away. He's a massive human being, 343 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: but also has a really good frame where he carries 344 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: his weight well. And when I was scouting in the league, 345 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: one of the things you look at are the ankles, 346 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: rovince of linemen, are there ankles skinny? Because that that 347 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: can tell you, hey, like how athletic he is? Is he? 348 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: How quick. Is he on his feet? His ankles are skinny, 349 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: but he's also I've never heard this, skinny ankles equal 350 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: is you're quick? So what does what does that mean? 351 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: If you have like fat ankles, you're just slow movement. 352 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: If you have fat ankles, then it's a red flag. 353 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: And it's like, Okay, is he a lumbering athlete? Does 354 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: he not necessarily have good arrange? Because skinny ankles. You 355 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: want your you want your offensive tackles to be broad 356 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: shoulders big, but skinny ankles. And that's exactly what Yeah, yeah, 357 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I forgot to mention. I forgot to 358 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: mention the outset. You were a scout for the Chargers yep, yep? 359 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: And what when? When was this? So? I was a 360 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 1: scout for the Chargers for seventeen all the way up 361 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: until the twenty nineteen drafts for two full seasons. Okay? 362 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Was that through Derwin James or no, yep, Derwin James. 363 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: So that was in the war room for Derwyn James. 364 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: It was perfect, It was awesome time. I'll tell you 365 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: that when when we'll get to that, let's quickly. Sorry, 366 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt in derail. You're a Quantu. So you 367 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: do think he could be attackle. What do you think 368 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: he ends up going. I just finished my lock draft 369 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: and I got him going to fod the Jets. I 370 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: think there's no way to Jets pass on him. And 371 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: I think there's no way they pass on him. I 372 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: think with the McKay back to uncertainty and that with 373 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: the Jets, you know understanding they need to, you know, 374 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: really build around Zach Wilson in order to give him 375 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: a chance to succeed. There's just no way the Jets 376 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: can pass on a talent like Iguanu, who again I 377 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: think has the potential to be a really, really good 378 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: left tackle in this league. Okay, So why are the 379 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: Houston Texans passing on him at three? Because I think 380 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: they go with Corner. I think, I think Derek Steeley, 381 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: I think that's crazy. Oh, I know, I know, listen, 382 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: I know the draft is is bonkers right now and 383 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: all the rumors in scuttle, but but you've got Stingley 384 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: going where Sauce Gardner going. I got Sauce following to 385 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: seven to the Giants Giants seconds. So I think, for 386 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: me personally, the way I think it's gonna go Senator 387 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: doo travel one walker at one, which which you can't 388 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: get into Hutchinson, not to Stingley at three than a 389 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: quality at four. I think that's your top four and 390 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about that. Yeah, you didn't mention 391 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau up top. And if you look at the 392 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: gambling markets, and it's weird because more than any draft 393 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: I can remember, the gambling markets are shaping some of 394 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: this Who's gonna go where? And over the weekend, reportedly 395 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: a large gambling syndicate hit Cavon Thibodeau at two directly 396 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: to the lines, which seems to fly in the face right. 397 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense everything we've read as the Lions 398 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: aren't that interested in him. Um, if he goes over 399 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: to maybe that's where a lot of other people are speculating, 400 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: where are you on Thibodeaux right now? So let it 401 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: be known. I am an organ duck, so there there 402 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: is some bias with me and when it comes to 403 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeaux. But that being said, I think he ends 404 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: about five to the New York Giants, and I was 405 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: tempted to go with Katie at two, but I just 406 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: keep coming back to you know, Hutchinson is the Michigan kid. 407 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: The Lions probably never thought that Jaguars would pass up 408 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: pass on him, right, And so I think that's one 409 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: of the reasons why Katie has been kind of linked 410 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: to the lines to the lines as of late, because 411 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: there was just no way Hutchinson would be there. But 412 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: now with the kind of understanding that Walker is gonna 413 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: go one, I have a hard time seeing the Lions 414 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: passed on Hutchinson. Now that being said, it was me 415 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: I would take came on day, but who's my edge 416 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: number one? I think he is the best passer in 417 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: this class. But at the end of the day, I 418 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: do think they go to hometown kidd and Hutchinson then 419 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: came on pivotal fault of five the Giants, then I 420 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: think that's the floor. I think even if the Giants 421 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: passed on him at five, there's no way passed him. 422 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: Might set Yeah, this is so crazy because you've got 423 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: so many warring factions here. You've got the gambling community 424 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: which thinks they have info, whether it's from agents or teams. 425 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: Then you've got the teams and what their boards are like. 426 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: And you could talk to us in a second about 427 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: like what the Chargers was like in the war room 428 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: versus the out here with everybody doing mock drafts. Then 429 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: you've got, you know, the fans and like, well they 430 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: need this. You don't really need that position, but you 431 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: need this, and which I think is a little bit silly. 432 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: It's just it's just a crazy draft. And the name 433 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: we haven't mentioned is Trayvon Walker, who is apparently the 434 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: heavy favor to go number one now, which is crazy 435 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: because four months ago, the majority of the NFL fans 436 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: who watched Georgia did not know who Trayvon Walker was. 437 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: He was not Jordan Davis, he was not Nicoby Dean. 438 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: And it's like traveling Walkers down number one. You got 439 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: him twenty second on your top twenty second, he's gonna 440 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: go first. What about who's wrong here? Look, I mean, 441 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: I can only stout what I see on tape, and 442 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: what I saw on tape was an athlete, athletic offensive lineman. 443 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: He's honestly Jason Best when he's inside. He is not 444 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: an edge dresher to me, he doesn't have the bend, 445 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have the ankle flection. He's a little tight in 446 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: his lower body, and he's stiff, which means I think 447 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna have a trouble getting around NFL a bunch 448 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: of tackles. Now that being said, I understand the appeal. 449 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: He's six five four or five forty with a one 450 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: point five ten yard He is a very, very rare athlete. 451 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: I get it. But in order to winning his confence tackles, 452 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: you need to be better than just being bigger and strong. 453 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: You need actual ability to bend. And that's where I 454 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: think Cavon Thibodeaux is better than him even and Hutchison 455 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: is better than him, and so I just I can 456 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: only grade what I see, and to me, I think 457 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: he's better at think an interior defensive lignement. I think 458 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: two years we're going to see him kicked inside, which 459 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: is where I think he could be really good. Line 460 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: them up against guards, let him be able to use 461 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: his life as a Mitch mat mismatch and it's kind 462 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: of upfield explosiveness where he's not forced to bend corners 463 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: because that's where he struggles. And so I think he 464 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: can have a Chris Jones type of impact as a rusher, 465 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: as a as a three technique. But if the Jaguars 466 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: drafting that one who was going to do and what, 467 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: and expects him to be a Miles Garrett eleven sack 468 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: type of guy. I think they're gonna be very disappointed. Well, 469 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: the disconnect is some of the measurables line up with 470 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, now not out, not all of them, but 471 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: some of them. And you're saying the tape does not 472 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: show bend of a Miles Garrett. So maybe Chris Jones 473 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: is a good comp. I had not heard that one. Yeah, no, 474 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean the band is simply not there. He is 475 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: a very linear athlete, meaning he is best going forward. 476 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: If he's asked to turn into a sharp corner, he 477 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: can't do it. And so that's where I think he's 478 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: really going to struggle in the NFL. Now again, if 479 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: you put him inside, let him go head up against cards, 480 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: he's able to use that upfield explos from this, able 481 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: to use that power in that length to get to 482 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And so again I think he's gonna be 483 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: a good enough of player. I just could not drop 484 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: him in the top ten, and I definitely wouldn't drop 485 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: him the top ten expecting him to be Myles Garrett 486 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: or even you know a nick Osa. Yeah, not no shot, 487 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: but he's in the twenties. Let's go to your number 488 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: one prospect. And this is interesting because of all the 489 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: like top ten talents, this guy's been sliding quote in 490 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: an air, quote sliding obviously more than anyone. And that's 491 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's of Notre Dame. The safety and safety not 492 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: a premium position. Um yeah, And I think this this 493 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: is where we can talk about your Derwin James experience. 494 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I haven't seen Kyle Hamilton's b 495 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: in the Derwin James class. Um have you? So I have? 496 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: And let me let me just say, you know, Derwin 497 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: James wouldn't have been on the board at seventeen had you, 498 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: had you not been injured in college? Right? Injuries? Was 499 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: injuries was a major concern for Drwayin James coming out. 500 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: And I know people want to use that compet terms 501 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: of hey, Derwin James didn't go to seventeen, why should 502 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: Hamiltons go earlier? And I start a prepoce that he 503 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been available at seventeen had you even healthy. 504 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Now that being set on to Hamilton's I do think 505 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: he is a Derwin James type of player. You don't 506 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: find six four Toronto twenty pounds safeties to have the fluidity, 507 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: the range, the instincts, the toughness like Kyle Hamilton's. You 508 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: see this guy playing single high. You see him. They 509 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: have have the sidelines, sideline arrange to pick the ball off, 510 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: and he's outstanding as a run defender coming downhill. He 511 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: can really literally do anything you want a safety to do. 512 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: Now I get it. You know he ran a slower 513 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: forty than expected, a four or five nine. And then 514 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: you know the the Pro Day, if you want to count, 515 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: that was a four six high four six. And what 516 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: I'll say to this Edery, who is the best free 517 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: safety of all time, ran a high four or five. 518 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: You don't need you don't need four three speed as 519 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: a safety if you are smart and instinctual. And that's 520 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: exactly what Kyle Hamilton's is. I don't even care about 521 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: the forty. He's six four. It takes it takes on 522 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: him a long time to really get going, but once 523 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: he opens up his stride, he choose up grass. I 524 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: think he is the best football player in this class. 525 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: It's I personally think it's close. I would certainly take 526 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: him the top five. Now, I don't expect me to 527 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: go top five because of the way the you know, 528 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: the team needs and stuff. But you know, if he's 529 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: there at eleven for Washington, twelve in Minnesota, even fifteen 530 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: to the Eagles, which I think is his floor, that's 531 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: an absolute home run pick. Yeah, Brentley, That's where I 532 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: had him going to Washington. It's interesting because I just 533 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: looked up Edward. He went twenty four overall Hall of 534 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: Fame lock Derwin James when when Okay, seventeen and he's 535 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: had a lot of injuries, so we can't say he's 536 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: on the Hall of Fame track, but he's an awesome player. 537 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: And I first tell me what was the jury Derwin 538 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: James discussion? Like for whatever you're allowed to say given 539 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: your you know, Chargers history. No, for sure, I mean 540 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: going into the draft to be at, you know, a 541 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: top four and of players who at seventeen we will 542 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: be copy with Derwin James was the top about list. 543 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: Now we understood the injury concerns with Darren James. I 544 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: mean I think he had a foot injury his freshman 545 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: year and then a couple of other lingering injury he's 546 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: his sophomore and junior seasons at Florida State, So the 547 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: injury concerns were very, very real. That being said, the 548 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: type of mentality in the alpha that he could bring 549 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: to our locker room at the time something we simply 550 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: could not pass up. We needed that edge, We needed 551 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: that dog in the back end of our defense because look, 552 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Joey Bose is amazing, but he's not a 553 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: vocal leader. We had no leader for the defense. And 554 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: more than anything else, that's really sold us on Derwan James. 555 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, we get it, he's an athletic, free outstanding 556 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: both and against the run, against the past, but it 557 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: was more from an intangible perspective that we simply couldn't 558 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: pass on Derwan James. And you know, at the time, 559 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: it is between Derman James and I want to say 560 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: it was a defensive linement, not Beta Bay and I 561 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: think he was off the board, but it was between 562 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: one of those players, and when Duran James felwas it 563 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: was a no brainer. Fox Sports Radio has the best 564 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 565 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: shows that Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the 566 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen 567 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: live the whole intangible leadership thing. That that is the 568 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: tough one for people who are not on the inside 569 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: interviewing these guys and doing the background checks and digging 570 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: deep and talking to their assistant high school football coach 571 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: at the you know, their their teachers or whoever is 572 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: eligible to talk. That's what we on the outside cannot do. Um, 573 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: how do you quantify leadership quality and who has it 574 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: in this draft? I mean, it's it's a it's a 575 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: major kind of determining factor of where these players trying 576 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: to get pits. And as you mentioned, you know, with 577 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: us as the media, we don't have the access to 578 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: the coaches, to the training staff, to even the tutors 579 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: at the universities. Right who are you know talking to 580 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: these scouts, talking to these gms, talking to these side 581 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: of coaches. But you know, just kind of based on 582 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: what I've seen, I think obviously Adan Hutchinson, you know, 583 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: he's a guy I think kind of embodies that leadership. 584 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: He was He's a guy who really kind of the 585 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: defense from Michigan rallied around, So I think he has that. 586 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: Malik Willis quarterback out of Liberty. You know, we could 587 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: say what we want in terms of some of his 588 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: flaws with the inaccuracy, the touch which is kind of 589 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: hit or missed with him, but all accounts, he's an outstanding, 590 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: outstanding leader, outstanding character and for a guy who's you know, 591 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: considered a risk. And I'll be honest, I haven't my 592 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: quarterback too, because I do think the consernct with him 593 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: are real in terms of touch and in consistent accuracy. 594 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: But because he's such a high character guy, I'm willing 595 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: to take a chance on him because I don't think 596 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna ever quit. I don't think he's ever gonna 597 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: fail because I believe in his character and after I 598 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: think he's gonna continue to work at it. So I 599 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: would point to those two ADAN had just seen in Milick. 600 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: Willis interesting because we throw around these labels, not you specifically, 601 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: but you know, I heard someone to say that Aidan 602 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: Hutchinson blue collar fits perfectly into the Detroit line. It's like, yo, 603 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: do you know? I mean Aidan Hutchinson went to a 604 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: private school, his mom was a model. He's like his 605 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: family's fine. I would I would say Aidan Hudginess is 606 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: not blue color. But at the same time, like high character. Uh, 607 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, Brentley, we don't ever hear this is a 608 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: low character guy. Why why don't we ever hear that? Oh? 609 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: We hear is high character. We never hear about the 610 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: low characters until after it comes out, right, So I 611 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I'm not asking to call out 612 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: any players here because I'm not. I don't want to 613 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: get aggregated. But are there low character concerns about any 614 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: guys here at the top of the draft? I haven't heard. Well. 615 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to get Derek Stingley, right, 616 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I personally don't think he's a 617 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: low character guy. But if I were at a point 618 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: to one coaches might Coaches might look at Stingley in 619 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: terms of, hey, you know, you kind of mailed it 620 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: in your last year. You know as a junior, you 621 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: didn't really battle you you left, you got injured, you 622 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: didn't come back. You know, teams might look at that 623 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: and say, okay, like football, you know, like what what happened? 624 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: Like why why didn't you finish out of the season. No, not, 625 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: not for me. I wouldn't judge stinging like that because 626 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he's he's doing what's 627 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: best for him and his family. But I'm Stingley, I'm 628 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: being honest with you, Jason, I probably don't come back either. 629 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: You know, Lsee wasn't gonna win an ASSENTI championship. I 630 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: put on a really good tat on a freshman, while 631 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: would I rushed back in an injury, pretend to potentially 632 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: jeopardize millions of dollars and left engine money for my family. 633 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: Now on the flip side, came on THI. But was 634 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: you just mentioned he got injured two separate times this 635 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: year as a junior, and what did he do? He 636 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: came back and played. And so the narrative with Kattie 637 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: where it's hey, he's a low effort guy, doesn't really 638 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: love football. He wears his sunglasses. Is in the crypto 639 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: we has n f T s like let's let's let's 640 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: kill his character. All I know is he didn't have 641 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: to come back after two separate injuries. He probably could 642 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: have opted out the season and we probably wouldn't have 643 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: judged him, right. I mean, we just saw Michael Parsons, 644 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase hun Slater opt out of They all were 645 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: all probable. Wasn't rookies, right, and so I just think about, 646 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: we shouldn't look at these kids in these prospects, you know, 647 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: with the with the lens of Hey, they did X, 648 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: Y and Z, so they're bad football characters. I think 649 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: it's really a case by case situation. Agreed totally. And 650 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: and I guess the only pushback on Stingley and I 651 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: hadn't really thought about that, but hearing you, you know, 652 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: talk about him. So let's just say, hypothetically he goes 653 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, let's say he goes to Seattle and 654 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: Seattle is gonna be bad this year. And Seattle starts 655 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: the season four and nine. They got a brutal schedule, 656 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: they got no quarterback, and he's got some he's got 657 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: some knicks and bumps and bruises. Does he just say, 658 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna sit out, I ain't 659 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: coming back. Does it? I mean, does he do that? 660 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: Because he did that, it's college. I'm not saying he would, 661 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: but could you see that being a question to him 662 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: in in some of these interviews or visits. I think 663 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: he's getting asked that question with every team, every GM, 664 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: every at a coach he meets with. And I think 665 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm stingy. I'm being very very honest, Hey, guys, I'm 666 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: trying to I was just trying to do the best 667 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: thing for me and my family, and that and me 668 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: coming back when I was injured could have hurt my 669 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: draft stop. And that is millions of dollars. That's life 670 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: changing money, that's generational money that was on the line. 671 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: Now that being said, once I get to the NFL, 672 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, and you know, I've kind of already gotten 673 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: paid football my number one, like, I will that that 674 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: is that's if I was an agent, That's what I 675 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: would tell him to say, because once it's honest and too, 676 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: it's understandable, right, Like if I'm a head of coach, 677 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: as long as I'm not a hypocrite, I can see 678 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: that side. Let's move to a similar question. I was 679 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: just looking at your board. You have Jermaine Johnson, who 680 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: we interviewed here on this podcast ten. He had started 681 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: Duco went to Georgia. Depending on what phrase you want 682 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: to use, it ends up transferring to f s U 683 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: and has a good season. I look at Jamie said Williams, 684 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: you have fourteen started Ohio State. Depending on what phrase 685 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: you want to use, ends up transferring to Alabama and 686 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: crushes it. I am curious from what your experiences with 687 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Does transferring because you don't pop in a 688 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: loaded room does that hurt you? Or does it not? 689 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: Because hey, this guy rebounded because all I read about 690 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: in uh you know college football is oh, this guy 691 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: was the third third strand quarterback. He didn't want to 692 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: be third string, so he transferred. These guys don't want 693 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: to stick it out and fight it the way uh 694 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: you know Joe Burrow did. Oh wait, Joe Burrow ended 695 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: up transferring to Ohio State. From Ohio State, right, he 696 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: left the loaded room, went to l s U and 697 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: becomes the number one pick. It's a it's a confusing question, 698 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: but it's certainly something that seems like an issue with 699 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: some of these players. I think if you would asked 700 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: me this five years ago, I would say yes, I think, 701 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: you know, transfers and people and players who you know, 702 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: maybe got beat out and decided to not stick it 703 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: out the university and left would have been judged in 704 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: the eyes of gms and coaches. I no longer think 705 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: that's the case. I think we have seen too many 706 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: cases where hey, the player transfers for whatever reason, they 707 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: go on to the next university, have an awesome one 708 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: to two years, and can still get sued high. I 709 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: think the transfer portal has changed everything, you know, I 710 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: think because if you're a team and you're gonna really 711 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: be judging these players, you're gonna be missing out a 712 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: ton of good players. The two guys who just named 713 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson Jameson Williams are studs. Two of the safest 714 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: players in this draft, and not just safe, two of 715 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: the highest upside players in this draft. I mean, Joe Burrow. 716 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: You think Cincinnati wouldn't have tooken Joe Burrow just because 717 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: of chance? It right, And so I think again, the 718 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: times have changed. I think gms and coaches are more 719 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: understandable and flexible with some of these transfers, and and 720 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I will say it is the 721 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: case by case basis, and I think it's very fair 722 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: to ask those questions. But I no longer I think 723 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna really kill these guys in the Warriors, and 724 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: and and to defend the athletes before people jumped down 725 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: my throat, um, you know, listen, the coaches change jobs 726 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: at the drop of a hat. They're moving on to 727 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: the next one for the most money they can get. Okay, 728 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: so some of these guys that they recruit are left 729 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: twisting in the wind for the new coach who may 730 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: or may not want them. Right. Uh, we could wrap 731 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: up on on Desmond Ritter. Guy who Brentley? Who? I 732 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: gotta be honest. I made a lot of money betting 733 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: on Desmon Ritter and Cincinnati. They they were a covering machine. 734 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: I remember being on them against Notre Dame. People are like, dude, 735 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: it's at Notre Dame. Are you crazy? No, Cincinnati is 736 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: really good and he was good, not great in that game. Um. 737 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: So they go up against Alabama, his first chance to 738 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: have like a showcase game national audience. Who's Desmin Ritter. 739 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: You want to be a pro you want to be 740 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: a top ten pick? This is your chance? And he 741 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: vomits all over himself. Pretty bad. Brentley, he seems to 742 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: have rebounded in the last three months because he's interviewed well, 743 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: quote unquote, um, where are you on Desmon Ridders pro prospects? 744 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: It's it's funny, Jason. So I was pretty low on Ridder, 745 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: I would say from most of the season, especially when 746 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: I was hearing first round talk and things like that. 747 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: But as I really dug into his tape, I'd say, 748 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: over the course of this draft process in the off season, 749 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: I've certainly came around him, right. I mean, he's six four, 750 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: I ran a four, a low four or five forty. 751 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: He has a good arm, and he he has a 752 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: ton of zip on the deep balls and the intermediate balls. 753 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: So I think from a physical tools perspective, he has 754 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: a lot that you like. And so because of that, 755 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: Amy had characters. Because of that, I do think you 756 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: were comfortable taking a chance on him in terms of range, 757 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: I could see that late first, maybe early second. But 758 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: that being said, there are some things that make me 759 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: really nourish that ridder For a quarterback you started over 760 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: forty games, he is highly highly inaccurate. I mean, his 761 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: inconsistencies are very concerning. Know with the guy like Malick 762 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: Willis who hasn't started forty games, you're really to bet 763 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: that Malik will potentially figure it out. We saw Josh 764 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: Allen eventually become more accurate in the NFL with the ritter. 765 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 1: This is not a guy who's only started two seasons. 766 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: He has started four years. Incinnati he has played this. 767 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: This is who he is, and unfortunately I just can't 768 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: get to that level with the ritter because of that. 769 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: Now again, strong arm, athletic, high character check check check. 770 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: So I think a team will take a chance on him, 771 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: But me personally, I have him as my QB three 772 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: behind uh pick it and Willis pick it. Willis, I 773 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: didn't do say Corral, Corral is by QB four. I 774 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: like Corral. He has some some Joe Burrow in him 775 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: in terms of the instincts in the pocket, the ability 776 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: to create UM. I like his athleticism, but I just 777 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: question what is his true trade. You can hang your 778 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: hat on, doesn't have great size, doesn't have the strongest arm. 779 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: Decision making questionable. Did you see the uh? I don't 780 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: want to say hatchet job, but people are saying Corral, 781 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 1: some of these anonymous sources, oh, well off the field. 782 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you can draft this. 783 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: Have you seen any of this? I've seen it. I've 784 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: seen it, But I mean, like the the story obviously 785 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: in high school was there was a racial incident and 786 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: he was defending one of his friends. UH, and like 787 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: Corral apparently got beat up and like it wasn't his fault. Again, 788 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: that's just some of the stories I've read. I I 789 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: was just a little surprised to see it. Um, But 790 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 1: so that makes Sam, how will your QB five? Sam? 791 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: How QB five? That's exactly my top five? And that's 792 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: a corral. You know. I haven't talked to him, but 793 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: my call would start at the Draft. Network had a 794 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: chance to Interviewert the Super Bowl for by all accounts, 795 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: a great kid. You know, a guy you you've got, 796 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: guy you'd want on your locker room. You know, he 797 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: gets he gets it, and so you know, I can't 798 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: I can't speak there's some of the some of the 799 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,479 Speaker 1: reports that are coming out, but all I can speak 800 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: to is from my sources. He's a great kid. Yeah. 801 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: The guy he got in a fight with in high 802 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: school was Wayne gret It's crazy, total, total punk and 803 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: like he was then. You know, I don't it got ugly, 804 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: but it wasn't his fault, apparently, Like I don't know, 805 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm team Matt Correll. I don't know anything about 806 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 1: the guy other than what I've read, and I'm rooting 807 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: for him. I'm rooting for Yeah. I always I consider 808 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: him an underdog and I'm I'm back in him as well. 809 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: All right, Brentley Weissman, you can find his stuff all 810 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: over the internet. Your top one hundred board. Uh did 811 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: you are you doing this? Submit your mock draft? Were 812 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: they great? And yeah? Yeah, I I literally just finished it. 813 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: I still got types of commentary out, but it is 814 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: locked and loaded. I feel not as good as last year. 815 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: Last year is much easier to kind of predict because 816 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks, right, we kind of knew which teams 817 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: need quarterbacks, and that split some of the top players 818 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: down and kind of put the puzzle pieces together. This 819 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: is your stuff. I'm not gonna lie. I don't. I 820 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: don't feel great, but well, we'll see how it goes. 821 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: All right, man, keep up the good work. And thanks 822 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: for taking the time, Jason. I always appreciate it.