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Speaker 2: for the Mothership covering the NBA Finals tonight. Thunder at
Speaker 2: the Pacers Game five OKC is favored by nine and
Speaker 2: a half. We talked a lot about JJ Spahn at
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Speaker 3: Poll question for the final hour of the programs Seaton.
Speaker 4: Going back to a classic here, would you bet a
Speaker 4: finger versus a million dollars? That Shoheo Tani will win
Speaker 4: the NL MVP. Hmmm, finger v million? Okay, so I
Speaker 4: lose a finger if he doesn't win the MVP. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you get a million dollars if he does.
Speaker 2: All right, who would put up a finger? Paully and
Speaker 2: Seaton Todd? You wouldn't put up a finger that Otani
Speaker 2: is gonna win the MVP. I'm not gonna do that,
Speaker 2: all right, tax three million dollars?
Speaker 5: Oh, tax free.
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna hold on to my digits.
Speaker 2: Marvin, I'll losing not my thumb, but you're gonna lose
Speaker 2: a pinky, fine with me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you do that. Okay, so there's three of you.
Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, I will not double down necessarily, but I'll
Speaker 6: go finger of your choice. That's how sure?
Speaker 3: I hmmm?
Speaker 6: Which is that's like the double down of the fingerbat?
Speaker 3: I might do that with Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2: I just once again, you have to have that guy
Speaker 2: who's having a year that's comparable. Nobody's having a year
Speaker 2: comparable to Aaron Judge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, seton what are the corporatelyales of crowdfunding a million
Speaker 4: dollars versus Paul's finger of his choice?
Speaker 6: I think we'd have to run that past management in
Speaker 6: some fashion.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm managing it. Yeah, I agree, I greenlighted, green light.
Speaker 4: All right, I'll get I'll start working on the social.
Speaker 2: Let's bring in PJ. Carlissimo, ESPN, NBA Studio Analysts, ESPN
Speaker 2: Game Analysts, PJ.
Speaker 3: How are you excellent?
Speaker 5: DP?
Speaker 7: How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling like Shay gilgis Alexander right now.
Speaker 5: You should be feeling great.
Speaker 2: Man, Help me understand. Three minutes to go on Friday
Speaker 2: night and he takes over. Indiana knows he's taken over,
Speaker 2: and you still can't stop him.
Speaker 7: Why he's a He's a really tough combination, the size,
Speaker 7: the ball, handling, he's got the middle game. I don't
Speaker 7: want to say he's a good three point show. He's
Speaker 7: a decent three point show. He made the only three
Speaker 7: in the entire fourth quarter. I kept saying that Marcuestershire
Speaker 7: during the game. If OKC doesn't makes some threes, they
Speaker 7: can't win this game. And they didn't. But Shay made
Speaker 7: one that really mattered down the stretch. He wants the ball.
Speaker 7: He's herky, jerky, he just he's like he reminds me
Speaker 7: a little bit of pac Man years ago. Like he
Speaker 7: doesn't straight line anything. He goes over, sideways around the guy.
Speaker 7: He gets in front of a player, he stops, he
Speaker 7: initiates contact. He's got that forearm out a lot. You know,
Speaker 7: the other team is always gonna cry, hey, he created
Speaker 7: the contact, his defender didn't. He just he can get
Speaker 7: basically wherever he wants to get. It's usually the mid
Speaker 7: range jumper, and then not always in late game situations.
Speaker 7: He's a really good passer. He sees the rest of
Speaker 7: the floor. So the rest of the game he'll involve
Speaker 7: his team. And I'm not saying he won't pass it
Speaker 7: at the end, but if it's a big enough shot,
Speaker 7: he knows he's supposed to take it.
Speaker 3: What went wrong with the Pacers?
Speaker 5: Rick carlosle used the word stat which was interesting.
Speaker 7: But he is obviously lead by seven points after three quarters,
Speaker 7: and not that there's always a correlation, but in the
Speaker 7: first three games they owned the fourth quarter. They were
Speaker 7: the best fourth quarter team in the first three games
Speaker 7: of the playoff. So you're sitting there between the third
Speaker 7: and fourth quarter and thinking, boy, Indiana is in really
Speaker 7: good shape. I thought one thing happened that kind of
Speaker 7: got lost in the shuffle. On the OKC side, Chet
Speaker 7: Holmgren and Alex Caruso scored the first nine points, like
Speaker 7: it went from eighty seven to eighty to eighty nine,
Speaker 7: eighty nine, and it was all Alex Caruso and Cheded Holmgren.
Speaker 7: Chet had six, Ac had three, and boom, like right away,
Speaker 7: this big advantage, it was gone. So now we're starting
Speaker 7: all over. It's an even game. Rick thought they got
Speaker 7: sped up a little bit. They weren't popping the ball
Speaker 7: around as much. It was sticking. They obviously weren't making threes,
Speaker 7: which early on had been their bread and butter in
Speaker 7: that game, so it kind of got away from them.
Speaker 7: I don't want to say they lost their composure, but
Speaker 7: they certainly didn't play with the confidence and with the
Speaker 7: purpose on the offensive end, especially the other thing. I
Speaker 7: mean with all it was said Ben Matheren, who's their
Speaker 7: best free throw shooter, missed a pair that would have
Speaker 7: still made it a one point game with like twenty
Speaker 7: four seconds to go. So the series has been much
Speaker 7: more competitive and much closer than I thought it was
Speaker 7: going to be starting out.
Speaker 2: Other topics helped me understand the Desmond Vane trade. From
Speaker 2: both sides here.
Speaker 7: Well, I can understand it from the Orlando side in
Speaker 7: terms of a quality player. They really struggle at times offensively.
Speaker 7: Jamal Mosley's done a really good job there. It's hard
Speaker 7: a little bit to evaluate him this year because you
Speaker 7: had so many injuries. Polo had a great year, Wagner
Speaker 7: was out a lot, both Wagner, So the team is
Speaker 7: closer than a lot of people realize. Orlando's kind of
Speaker 7: poised to make a run in the Eastern Conference, particularly
Speaker 7: with who knows what's going to happen with the Celtics.
Speaker 7: I don't think the coaching is necessarily the absolute key,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm biased about that, but I think the
Speaker 7: Knicks are going to be okay regardless of what they do.
Speaker 7: I don't think they're going to be as good as
Speaker 7: they were with Tibbs coaching, but I think it's a
Speaker 7: good time to make a move in the East. So
Speaker 7: I can understand what Orlando's thinking. But boy, they gave
Speaker 7: up a lot. They really gave up a lot. Not CACP,
Speaker 7: the jury's out on. Loved him in Denver, liked him
Speaker 7: in LA. He had a really tough year. Is he
Speaker 7: too old?
Speaker 5: Is he?
Speaker 7: On the downside, I don't know. I still think there's
Speaker 7: something there. Greg Anthony s. Soun's a very good player
Speaker 7: and a slew of draft picks, So I thought they
Speaker 7: gave up a lot, But they got they got a
Speaker 7: really special player back. Desmond Bane is a big time shooter.
Speaker 7: He's a strong, physical guard. He's a very willing defender.
Speaker 7: He's a good defender. So I think they got a
Speaker 7: heck of a player that can really help them advance
Speaker 7: in the East.
Speaker 5: But boy, they gave up a ton.
Speaker 8: PJ.
Speaker 2: Carlissimo, former NBA coach, an analyst for the Mothership. He'll
Speaker 2: be covering the NBA finals. You mentioned the Knicks. What
Speaker 2: are the Knicks doing?
Speaker 7: They don't know. De Peter's no way we could know.
Speaker 7: They have no idea themselves what they're doing. So I
Speaker 7: just don't understand it that I conventional logic, which doesn't
Speaker 7: really concern me, is you don't fire a guy who
Speaker 7: says talented a coach is tips. You can say whatever
Speaker 7: you want about managing the bench, and you know they
Speaker 7: didn't get as far as you look at what they've
Speaker 7: done in the last twenty five years and his four
Speaker 7: years of putting them in the playoffs, they get to
Speaker 7: the Eastern Conference finals. He's a proven winner. He was
Speaker 7: a big factor back in eight. Doctor be the first
Speaker 7: to tell you that when the Celtics won there. He's
Speaker 7: really a special coach. You're rid of a coach, and
Speaker 7: it doesn't seem like they had a plan. The Knicks,
Speaker 7: you know, are still one of the three or four,
Speaker 7: you know, pre eminent franchises in the league. You think
Speaker 7: people you don't want to coach there despite and I
Speaker 7: don't think it's always necess leon. You know, you just
Speaker 7: don't know with the ownership how much there's interference there.
Speaker 7: I don't know who made this decision. It's easy for
Speaker 7: them to make it look like, well, the players weren't
Speaker 7: happy playing for Tibsie. You got a couple guys that
Speaker 7: have had the best year they've ever had in the NBA.
Speaker 7: So I don't think they're really thinking, I don't like
Speaker 7: playing for this guy. You know, it's been good for
Speaker 7: me and the team's been winning. Where they're going now.
Speaker 7: I don't know the calling other teams to talk to
Speaker 7: their coaches that are there, and very good coaches. Okay, good,
Speaker 7: they picked good teams to call those guys that are
Speaker 7: very good coaches. Why would you ever give permission for
Speaker 7: the Knicks to talk to the guy? I mean, I
Speaker 7: don't understand.
Speaker 2: That any chance, any chance Rick Brunson takes over as
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Knicks.
Speaker 7: I would have thought, yes, everybody's telling me no. And
Speaker 7: who everybody is, I don't know. People around the Knicks,
Speaker 7: the broadcasters, assistant coaches, a couple of players I talked to,
Speaker 7: they all think no. That that to me, he was
Speaker 7: kind of from the beginning. Rick Brunson's capable of being
Speaker 7: a coach in the NBA. He obviously tips valued his counsel.
Speaker 7: You know, he was a major factor for them. I
Speaker 7: would have thought, it just doesn't seem to be mentioned
Speaker 7: at all. Whether it becomes a fallback, I don't know.
Speaker 7: Doesn't seem like it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant's value now is what I.
Speaker 7: Think, still very very good. He's still is going to
Speaker 7: get you thirty or close to it. He's still We
Speaker 7: talked about how special Shay is. Kevin in his prime
Speaker 7: and he's not far from his prime, was the best
Speaker 7: end of a game player you would ever want. He
Speaker 7: was so big, he was so good with the ball.
Speaker 7: He shot threes, shoots threes even.
Speaker 3: Better, better than Lebron closing time or Steph closing.
Speaker 7: I think, yes, you know I want him because Lebron
Speaker 7: always as great as Lebron is, he was never a
Speaker 7: great free throw shoot. He's become He's much better than
Speaker 7: he was. KD was the whole package. He was going
Speaker 7: to shoot ninety percent free throws. He was too big,
Speaker 7: he could shoot over everybody. He had a good handle
Speaker 7: for a guy that big, and he could score outside
Speaker 7: or inside, and if you followed him, he was automatic.
Speaker 7: So he was a tremendous end of game player. Not
Speaker 7: that he wasn't good the other forty seven minutes, but
Speaker 7: he was money at the end of a game.
Speaker 2: What's the best performance you ever witnessed, whether you're coaching
Speaker 2: against or coaching for, But who put up the best
Speaker 2: performance ever?
Speaker 7: Well, I want to say Tim Duncan, but I'm trying
Speaker 7: to think of an individual one the five years I
Speaker 7: was lucky enough to be an assistant in San Antonio,
Speaker 7: there were so many times that he got us through
Speaker 7: to the end. But he wasn't you know, he wasn't
Speaker 7: one of those guys that normally put up like forty
Speaker 7: and did like twenty two points in a row. That's
Speaker 7: a heck of a question. I'm tempted to say somebody
Speaker 7: like Kevin, but I'm getting senile, so I can't really
Speaker 7: come up with an opponent or a game where I
Speaker 7: just like sat there and said, I can't believe what
Speaker 7: this guy's doing. Just scored time, you know, like kind
Speaker 7: of what Shaye did the other night, what it was
Speaker 7: at fifteen in the last sixteen. But not taking anything away,
Speaker 7: he's he is the MVP, He's great.
Speaker 5: Jolkic is another one. DP.
Speaker 7: I don't I would, I know, we don't want to
Speaker 7: get into the Jokic Shae debate right now, but Jokic
Speaker 7: did that a number of times. The way he impacted
Speaker 7: a game, I mean in so many different ways, with
Speaker 7: the passing, with the scoring himself, with getting into the
Speaker 7: free throw line, the way he understands the game.
Speaker 3: What about witnessed anything with Jordan Oh.
Speaker 7: I mean that was like automatic, but it was like
Speaker 7: you were so immune to it. You're just like when
Speaker 7: he did it, you go, yeah, of course. It was
Speaker 7: kind of like when they when they ran out of time,
Speaker 7: whether yesterday they put Tiger on and it was like
Speaker 7: a nice watching I had forgotten that last butt rolled
Speaker 7: around a little bit. But Rocco wasn't being smarterer game.
Speaker 7: He went like, yeah, of course he made the putt.
Speaker 7: That's what Tiger does. That was the way it was
Speaker 7: mj Like whatever he did, you just go, okay, you
Speaker 7: know if that's what Michael Jordan did, which made it
Speaker 7: kind of special that you actually expected it and you
Speaker 7: just kind of shrug your shoulders and go, yeah, that
Speaker 7: was Michael Jordan. It's funny talking to a lot of
Speaker 7: the younger players now in a sense they certainly don't
Speaker 7: remember him, but they haven't even seen him that much. Honestly,
Speaker 7: they don't appreciate exactly what he did on a regular basis.
Speaker 2: What was more physical the NBA in the eighties or
Speaker 2: the Big East in the eighties.
Speaker 7: I think in the eighties it was it was actually
Speaker 7: the Big East because nothing was called it was great.
Speaker 7: It was expected. This series, talking about physical, you got
Speaker 7: two teams that prefer to pick up folk court. Anytime
Speaker 7: there's a dead ball, they'll both pick up ninety four feet.
Speaker 7: They have a lot of physical defenders. That's the way
Speaker 7: they defend. It's really hard to officiate this series because
Speaker 7: this contact and there's guys laying on each other virtually
Speaker 7: every play, and when you go to the lane, it's
Speaker 7: very rare when somebody gets all the way to the
Speaker 7: basket with like without Home Grin or Miles Turner or
Speaker 7: a couple of these really good long athletes just challenging
Speaker 7: every shot. I really think the defense in this series
Speaker 7: is excellent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're not fighting like you guys did in
Speaker 3: the eighties.
Speaker 7: Well that was just I mean, it was just I
Speaker 7: don't know whether Dave had him to Dave Gavin had
Speaker 7: a meeting with the officials or what, but it was
Speaker 7: like the funny part was it was expected though, Like
Speaker 7: you didn't even look like a guy would go through
Speaker 7: and get knocked down. He'd be up, he'd be bleeding.
Speaker 7: Nobody would say a word. It was like, okay, you
Speaker 7: know they follow us. That's the way it was. You
Speaker 7: know what it was like on the playground DP when
Speaker 7: you were young and it was a game to eleven
Speaker 7: and it got to be ten ten, Well you had
Speaker 7: to like make a jump shot or something like that
Speaker 7: because if you and inside guys just punched, it knocked
Speaker 7: you down.
Speaker 5: That was the way the Big East was. Oh he
Speaker 5: was most of it was in the game.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. Save that voice for tonight. Sorry, well, brother,
Speaker 2: thank you, GP. Good seeing, Great to see you, PJ, PJ, Carlssimo.
Speaker 2: He'll be on the call tonight. It'll be Game five
Speaker 2: and that'll be on ESPN Radio. The tip off is
Speaker 2: slated for eight thirty Eastern ESPN Radio and also on ABC.
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Speaker 2: here in a little bit. We'll recap what we saw
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Speaker 2: We'll get to Steve Sam's of Golf Channel. Coming out
Speaker 2: quick Story went to dinner Friday night in the city
Speaker 2: with Adam Sandler. All right, I wanted to get together
Speaker 2: with him, find out how the movie is and is
Speaker 2: it done it's ready to come out next month, and
Speaker 2: find out, you know, how many scenes that I'm in
Speaker 2: that got caught out and how many actually made the movie.
Speaker 3: So I'm just doing kind of a you.
Speaker 2: Know, just a welfare check here on how my career
Speaker 2: is going with Sandler. Sandler goes, I'm going to go
Speaker 2: play basketball and I'll meet you at the restaurant. Well,
Speaker 2: the restaurant's really nice, but it's not very far from
Speaker 2: the basketball courts. So Sandler's got his Hawaiian shirt on,
Speaker 2: baggy shorts. He's playing a couple of games. Comes in,
Speaker 2: he's sweaty, and you know, of course he walks in
Speaker 2: and everybody goes, that's Adam Sandler. They didn't care that,
Speaker 2: you know, they had a dress code, it didn't matter.
Speaker 2: So he's a mess when he comes in. So, you know,
Speaker 2: we have a dinner, great, great conversation. We're leaving. He
Speaker 2: said where are you walking to? I said, well, I'm
Speaker 2: going to walk to Soho. He goes, I'll walk with you, Danny,
Speaker 2: and then he goes, you don't want to walk with
Speaker 2: the Sandman, And I go, okay, why he was actually
Speaker 2: saying you do not want to walk with him? Because
Speaker 2: we probably passed ninety people. Let's say eighty of those
Speaker 2: people ask for a photograph. It was you know, in
Speaker 2: the middle of traffic, people crossing street, crazy crazy, and
Speaker 2: he goes, I told you, Dannie, you don't want to
Speaker 2: walk with this sand Man, but he was polite. One
Speaker 2: person out of eighty asked for a photograph of me.
Speaker 2: One guy asked me if I would take the photograph
Speaker 2: of him and Adam Sandler.
Speaker 3: I said sure, I'd be more than happy to. But
Speaker 3: Sandman is good, and you know, maybe.
Speaker 2: There's one other movie that he's going to be working
Speaker 2: on after Happy Go More two. A lot of cameos
Speaker 2: and Happy gil Moore too. A lot of big time
Speaker 2: golfers in there. And I found out Shooter McGavin. How
Speaker 2: Shooter McGavin got his name in the movie. But I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make you wait for that because I have to
Speaker 2: get to Steve Sands of Golf Channel, very popular play
Speaker 2: by play announcer, host and interviewer Steve how are you?
Speaker 11: Shooter McGavin was at the Players this year, Dan and
Speaker 11: I was on a stage with him and got to
Speaker 11: meet him and then hang out with him for a
Speaker 11: little while, and I was like, man, this is a man.
Speaker 12: Shoot him.
Speaker 11: McGavin's like an incredible character in sports movie lore, and
Speaker 11: it was pretty wild. But let me get back to
Speaker 11: the Adam Sandler thing. One love when you name drop.
Speaker 11: I think that's very cool. And Two, how in the
Speaker 11: world can you walk block after block in New York
Speaker 11: City and only have one person ask for your autograph?
Speaker 11: You came to dinner with me about a month ago
Speaker 11: in winter Park and we couldn't take a bite without
Speaker 11: everyone in the restaurant running byes and calling, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 11: that's Keith Arperman. Oh, I'm sorry, Dan, Patch, Dan, what's
Speaker 11: going on?
Speaker 3: Good to have you back on, Steve.
Speaker 11: It's great to be with you.
Speaker 5: Dan.
Speaker 11: How you doing, buddy?
Speaker 3: The best golf movie of all time is?
Speaker 11: Oh, Caddy Shack.
Speaker 5: It's not even close.
Speaker 11: Come on, really, come on, I mean Caddy Shack, you can.
Speaker 11: I mean, I love Adam Sandler and I love all
Speaker 11: things golf genre with Adam Sandler. I mean, come on now,
Speaker 11: I mean Caddy Shack? Is there something better than Caddyshack?
Speaker 11: Are you gonna give me Kevin Costner and that whole thing?
Speaker 3: Okay? If I take Caddyshack off the board?
Speaker 11: Oh man, you know I haven't seen the second version,
Speaker 11: but the first version with Adam Sandler, I mean that
Speaker 11: made me laugh out loud. I mean, golf usually doesn't
Speaker 11: make you laugh out loud. Yeah, I gotta see. I
Speaker 11: gotta see the second version though. Are you saying it's good?
Speaker 11: Were you in the movie by.
Speaker 3: The way, Yeah? Wow, of course. I mean I'll tell
Speaker 3: you what, man, you you're a big time man.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: But I always find time for you.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 11: You come to the Orlando area like once a month
Speaker 11: and I hear from you once a year. Is that
Speaker 11: always making time for me?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, because I got to meet up with rich Lerner.
Speaker 2: Uh foaldo Like there's a lot of a lot of yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 11: The best The best part about you living in that
Speaker 11: circle of people is that Lerner now lives in Connecticut
Speaker 11: and Faluda lives in Montana, and you're saying that you
Speaker 11: have to see them both when you're in Orlando. Yes,
Speaker 11: that's my favorite part.
Speaker 3: No, no houses.
Speaker 11: That's nice. It's nice of you.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I love what rich Lerner said last night. He said
Speaker 2: that JJ spawn he beat the best and he beat
Speaker 2: the beast. Yeah, he did in in that order.
Speaker 3: Did he beat the best or did he beat the beast?
Speaker 11: I think he beat the beasts first. I think certain
Speaker 11: major championship venues. Aside from Augusta National, which hosts the
Speaker 11: Masters every year, there's certain US Open and PGA Championship
Speaker 11: and Open Championship venues that just mean more. They just
Speaker 11: do you. You do it Open at Saint Andrew's and
Speaker 11: it means more than most of the other venues. And
Speaker 11: I think Oakmont is one of those places. Dan, when
Speaker 11: you win at Oakmont, you have conquered Oakmont more than
Speaker 11: you've conquered the other one hundred and fifty five guys
Speaker 11: who are in the field. I agree with Rich, but
Speaker 11: I would go beast before the field.
Speaker 2: How many golf courses in the world do we tune
Speaker 2: in to see the golf course and then you tune
Speaker 2: in to see how the players play the golf course.
Speaker 11: Augusta National for the Masters every year. I've never been anywhere,
Speaker 11: you know, I've said this to people all the time.
Speaker 11: You can go to Churchill Downs on the first Saturday
Speaker 11: in May. You're going to turn around and watch the derby.
Speaker 11: At some point you're gonna go to Wrigley or Fenway
Speaker 11: or whatever your cathedrals are, fog Allen at some point,
Speaker 11: whatever your cathedrals are. In sports, you're gonna be watching
Speaker 11: the sporting event. You can walk in. We talked about
Speaker 11: this before.
Speaker 5: Dan.
Speaker 11: You can go to Augusta, get a badge for a day,
Speaker 11: walk around, eat those horrible Prometo cheese sandwiches, buy yourself
Speaker 11: two thousand dollars worth of merchandise because you think you're
Speaker 11: never gonna go back there again. You have to buy
Speaker 11: something for every human being you've ever met in your life,
Speaker 11: whether you love them or not. Have a beer, walk
Speaker 11: the eighteen holes, see the place you're so familiar with,
Speaker 11: not see a single golf shot, and walk away, go
Speaker 11: home and go that's the best day of my life
Speaker 11: and you never saw a shot. The course at Augusta
Speaker 11: National matters. Pebble Beach, I think is in that category.
Speaker 11: We see that regularly. But you can just walk around
Speaker 11: Pebble and enjoy the beauty and again Saint Andrews, the
Speaker 11: familiarity of it, the history of it. But I think
Speaker 11: it's those three And if you're going to do a
Speaker 11: US Open, I think next year's venue might be the
Speaker 11: best golf course in America shinnecock Out on the tip
Speaker 11: of Long Island, but Oakmont is one of those places
Speaker 11: that's hosted the most in but it's also it's just
Speaker 11: so famous for being hard. It's just so hard. It's
Speaker 11: fun for US hacks to watch the best players in
Speaker 11: the world try to get it around there.
Speaker 2: He Steve Sand's NBC sports play by play announcer, host
Speaker 2: interviewer working for the Golf Channel as well. When you
Speaker 2: start to look at what hell this played out, You
Speaker 2: didn't have big names at the top of the leaderboard,
Speaker 2: right Why you.
Speaker 11: Know, somebody told me a couple of days ago. I
Speaker 11: found it interesting. PGA Tour events, week in week out
Speaker 11: are not set up as difficult as this. So if
Speaker 11: you're a little bit off your game and you're still
Speaker 11: the best player in the world, you can get it
Speaker 11: out of the rough, you can get it up and
Speaker 11: in around the greens. You can't do that at a
Speaker 11: US Open. So if the best players in the world
Speaker 11: are just a little bit off at a regular tour event,
Speaker 11: they still end up on a leader board, whereas in
Speaker 11: a US Open, especially a US Open at Oakmont, if
Speaker 11: you're a little off the target, like Scheffler was, like
Speaker 11: Rory was, like Shaffley was, like ludvig Oldberg was. You know,
Speaker 11: if you're top four or five players in the world.
Speaker 11: Just a hair off of a US Open, you're gonna
Speaker 11: get punished, and those guys got punished last week.
Speaker 3: Why isn't Rory meeting with the media when he has
Speaker 3: a bad round?
Speaker 11: You know what's sad?
Speaker 7: Dan?
Speaker 11: I forget the night we had dinner. I'm being all
Speaker 11: kidding aside. We had dinner one night and we were
Speaker 11: talking about this at dinner, and it's still going on.
Speaker 11: I think he's really bothered by what happened at the
Speaker 11: PGA Championship when the USGA and the PGA of America
Speaker 11: basically threw him under the bus and leaked out that
Speaker 11: his driver had to get taken away. So did Scotti
Speaker 11: Scheffler's by the way, Dan, and he went on to win,
Speaker 11: but his name wasn't leaked out.
Speaker 3: Rory's was.
Speaker 11: He had just won the career Grand Slam. You know,
Speaker 11: I think that. I think there's a motivation factor going
Speaker 11: on right now that he's trying to find that gear again.
Speaker 11: His whole life was geared towards doing something. Now that
Speaker 11: he's done it, he's naturally kind of taking his foot
Speaker 11: off the gas a little bit. I think he's upset
Speaker 11: that his name was leaked out. He didn't like the
Speaker 11: way the media handled that. The media actually went forward
Speaker 11: with that, as opposed to perhaps going to him off
Speaker 11: the record and say, hey, I just found this out.
Speaker 11: What would you like me to do with it? Because
Speaker 11: I have to go report it that kind of thing.
Speaker 11: And I also think he's not playing very well Dan,
Speaker 11: and I don't think he likes talking about that too often.
Speaker 11: But I got to tell you, as much as I
Speaker 11: love Rory, I think you have to be professional and
Speaker 11: you have to speak when you win and when you lose.
Speaker 11: Jack Nicholas was the greatest champion in the sport, Dan,
Speaker 11: he was also the greatest loser in the sport, and
Speaker 11: I think he needs to man up and speak to
Speaker 11: the media because you don't want them directing the narrative.
Speaker 11: You should direct the narrative. And I think he's making
Speaker 11: a mistake, and I hope he gets back and starts
Speaker 11: to do what he normally does, because, by the way, Dan,
Speaker 11: he's so great with the media, he needs to do it.
Speaker 11: It's not professional.
Speaker 2: Because Jack won eighteen majors. I think he finished runner
Speaker 2: up nineteen times.
Speaker 11: Yeah, nineteen times. And by the way, Rory is such
Speaker 11: a good guy and he's so smart and insightful, and
Speaker 11: he's fabulous with the writers. He's fabulous on podcasts, he's
Speaker 11: fabulous on fabulous on shows like yours and on TV
Speaker 11: with us. You know, I hope he gets back to
Speaker 11: doing it regularly because he's so good at it. But
Speaker 11: right now he's in a little bit of a funk
Speaker 11: with the media and he's not giving the media what
Speaker 11: it wants it. By the way, Dan, one last thing
Speaker 11: on that he doesn't owe the media. You and I
Speaker 11: talked about this. No athlete owes the media anything. They're
Speaker 11: right when they say that. They shouldn't say that out loud,
Speaker 11: but they don't owe the media anything. They do owe
Speaker 11: their fans and their sponsors everything. The media just happens
Speaker 11: to be the conduit between the athlete and the audience,
Speaker 11: whether it's sponsors or whether it's fans. And I think
Speaker 11: that players need to get out of the realm of
Speaker 11: thinking we owe the media something, we owe the fans
Speaker 11: that sponsors something. The media is just the outlet between
Speaker 11: the two parties.
Speaker 3: Didn't Rory make you cry?
Speaker 11: He did make me cry at Royal Port Rush in
Speaker 11: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5: My mother.
Speaker 11: I'll tell you quick story my mother had just passed away.
Speaker 11: And you know, you hear from a lot of people.
Speaker 11: You hear from a lot of family and friends. Clearly
Speaker 11: you know when your parents pass away or someone close
Speaker 11: he passes away. In this case, it was my mom.
Speaker 11: We go to Northern Ireland and I had never heard
Speaker 11: from Rory. I hadn't seen Rory since my mother had
Speaker 11: passed away. It had been about three weeks and he
Speaker 11: missed the cut at Royal Port Rush in his home country,
Speaker 11: which had all the pressure on his shoulders and his
Speaker 11: back going into that week, and right before we were
Speaker 11: about to do the interview on Friday, after missing the cut,
Speaker 11: after all that emotion from him, he literally looks at
Speaker 11: Tommy Roy's in my year going okay. Thirty seconds out
Speaker 11: said great, and Rory looks at me and goes, hey,
Speaker 11: I didn't want to text you and I hadn't seen you.
Speaker 11: Puts his hand on my arm and says, I'm so
Speaker 11: sorry to hear about your mom. I wanted to make
Speaker 11: sure I told you that in person, and the yikes stand.
Speaker 11: I mean we were out on the air, but I
Speaker 11: was like WHOA. I backed away from the camera, hit
Speaker 11: the talkback button and said to Tommy. I said to
Speaker 11: Tommy Roy, you're gonna need a minute. He goes, no,
Speaker 11: we gotta get so, we gotta get to you. And
Speaker 11: I go, I'm gonna need a minute. And I looked
Speaker 11: at Rory a way, you gotta be kidding me, And
Speaker 11: it was. It was a very very nice moment. Gives
Speaker 11: you a little bit of insight as to what type
Speaker 11: of human being he is, which is why we all
Speaker 11: want to hear from him, whether he wins or loses.
Speaker 11: But yeah, it was a very very nice say. He
Speaker 11: definitely got me, and not many people get me, but
Speaker 11: he got me hard there. Great to talk to you again, Dan,
Speaker 11: You're the best man. I love it.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Steve Sands works for a golf channel, also part of
Speaker 2: the coverage of the US Open.
Speaker 3: Uh, Roy's a good interview.
Speaker 2: And maybe it's selfish that I mean, I want to
Speaker 2: hear from him because he has something to say. But
Speaker 2: you know, Steve Sands brings up some interesting things about
Speaker 2: that he did get thrown under the bus. You know,
Speaker 2: when they go, oh, he had an illegal driver, it's
Speaker 2: not like he did something that was nefarious. It was
Speaker 2: his driver that the face of it was so beat
Speaker 2: up it actually gave a benefit to it, I guess,
Speaker 2: but it was all unintentional and Scottie Scheffler had the
Speaker 2: same thing. They confiscated his driver as well. He ended
Speaker 2: up winning the tournament. Sean in Rochester. Hi, Sean, thanks
Speaker 2: for holding what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13: Wow, it's amazing about really.
Speaker 3: Yes you are, Sean.
Speaker 12: Oh my goodness. Wow.
Speaker 13: I just wanted to comment on your comments from last week.
Speaker 13: I was trying to get in. I've never tried to
Speaker 13: call into your show, but I've like listened to the
Speaker 13: show for a long time. But I felt moved to
Speaker 13: call into your show because you were just like your
Speaker 13: comments on Brian Wilson and then it became fly Stone
Speaker 13: and all that, like we're just so like I didn't like.
Speaker 13: I know, you guys are a great like sports organization
Speaker 13: and you understand.
Speaker 12: Sports, that's what you do.
Speaker 13: But I have to say I was just really impressed
Speaker 13: with the fact that you knew that history of like
Speaker 13: Brian Wilson and the Beatles and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, I love you music. I've been very fortunate.
Speaker 2: I grew up in a household where my brothers were
Speaker 2: One of my oldest brothers was collecting albums and told
Speaker 2: me what was good music and thank you for the
Speaker 2: phone call, and I got I had friends who had cars,
Speaker 2: so I got to go see concerts. You know when
Speaker 2: you spend the seventies where you're going to see Errol Smith,
Speaker 2: Stone's Zeppelin, who David Bowie. I mean, that's every kid's
Speaker 2: dream and to have that music and then understand who
Speaker 2: influenced the Beach Boys. I didn't get the Beach Boys
Speaker 2: until I got the Beach Boys, and then you realize
Speaker 2: there was so much more to them. And Brian Wilson,
Speaker 2: you know, the leader of the Beach Boys passing away.
Speaker 2: But I've always been a sly in the family Stone fan,
Speaker 2: and I brought this up years ago about them, and
Speaker 2: then I think Questlove was going to do a documentary,
Speaker 2: and I thought that's awesome, because you know, we should
Speaker 2: remember some of these bands and some of these artists
Speaker 2: and who they influenced. So it's just a love of music,
Speaker 2: a willingness to understand or listen to something. I didn't
Speaker 2: get Dylan when I was growing up. It did not
Speaker 2: get Bob Dylan didn't understand it. It was like, what's
Speaker 2: the big deal? And all of a sudden it clicked,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, I became you know,
Speaker 2: a know it all country. I didn't get it. It
Speaker 2: was country western when I was growing up. Didn't get it.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden I got it. But
Speaker 2: I didn't give up on it. You know, sometimes you
Speaker 2: go you listen to something, you go, nah, not for me.
Speaker 2: But I kept revisiting it because I was missing.
Speaker 3: So it was me.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden country western became country.
Speaker 2: And then I got Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings and
Speaker 2: George Strait, I got Hank Williams and you know, you
Speaker 2: got that music you under and the great songwriting now
Speaker 2: to me is country. Some of the great songwriting is country,
Speaker 2: led by Chris Stapleton. But it took a while, but
Speaker 2: I love it, you know, I love listening to it.
Speaker 2: I love when somebody says, hey, try this, Yeah, Marv,
Speaker 2: Is there an artists that you'd like to interview, just
Speaker 2: to pick their brain? Like, what were you thinking when
Speaker 2: you made X.
Speaker 5: Y and Z.
Speaker 2: Well, my problem with the Dylan movie was they don't
Speaker 2: really get behind the science of this is why I
Speaker 2: wrote this or how I wrote this? How long it
Speaker 2: took me? To write that that was my biggest knock
Speaker 2: on it. But then Dylan doesn't share that. Robert Plant
Speaker 2: I'd love to interview because he's reticent to talk about Zeppelin.
Speaker 2: Now there is the Zeppelin documentary, but like they were
Speaker 2: what they were doing, when they were doing it, how
Speaker 2: they were doing it, how big they were, Like what
Speaker 2: is that feeling?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's way.
Speaker 2: Too many musicians, you know McCartney, but I want somebody
Speaker 2: who has can have some kind of let me look
Speaker 2: at myself, let me be willing to go back and
Speaker 2: under you know, hey, I did this, this is why
Speaker 2: we did this. That's what fascinates me. You know how
Speaker 2: many times you hear an artist go I wrote it
Speaker 2: in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: I just had it.
Speaker 2: I had to write it down, and I created this
Speaker 2: in fifteen minutes. It happens a lot more than you think.
Speaker 2: And I've been around Darius Rucker where he'll go, I've
Speaker 2: been you know, I have to put a song away
Speaker 2: and then I have to come back like three months later,
Speaker 2: and then you add to it. Then you like you can't,
Speaker 2: it just doesn't work, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: then it works. Like I'd have a hard time putting
Speaker 2: a song to bed where I go it's done, and
Speaker 2: then you'd go, I give drive me crazy. I'd be like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna tweet that I'm gonna go more
Speaker 2: tambourine there. But I have great appreciation for artists, and
Speaker 2: that's what musicians are. Their art is, you know, a
Speaker 2: paint rush with their voice or their instrument, as opposed
Speaker 2: to an artist who puts something on campus.
Speaker 3: Whoa got a little heavy there.
Speaker 2: How about we take a break, last call for phone calls,
Speaker 2: what we learn, what's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: I believe JJ Spahn will join us on the program tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Fritzi's been working on that. Do you remember when he
Speaker 2: joined us at Pebble Beach and he walked up to
Speaker 2: me and he said, uh, hi, JJ Spahn, I'm the
Speaker 2: other black golfer on tour. He was a funny guy.
Speaker 2: So I was rooting for him because it was a
Speaker 2: great story out of nowhere. He's won one other time
Speaker 2: and you're just kind of you bogie. Five of the
Speaker 2: first six, I'm like, oh, just you know what? It
Speaker 2: went from he might win to h that was a
Speaker 2: cute story. Oh you know he was leading after three
Speaker 2: rounds and all of a sudden, you go, all right,
Speaker 2: it was a nice story. We got some nice partying gifts,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he just kept kind
Speaker 2: of plugging along, plugging along, and then nobody really took
Speaker 2: control of it. Let me see, is it Saday in Florida?
Speaker 2: At least that's how it's pronounce or spelled. Is it Soaday?
Speaker 12: It's save Sabe but save.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Tyler wrote sad like it was Saday this singer.
Speaker 12: No, I wish I could say like that. But anyway,
Speaker 12: first time caller, you guys were amazing five foot nine.
Speaker 3: Point six, Okay.
Speaker 12: I just wanted to chime in on Fritzy's rod deficiency,
Speaker 12: not disrespectfully, but as a wordsmith myself. I came up
Speaker 12: with a couple of spawns. Do you want to hear him?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure? Why not?
Speaker 12: Spawn with the wind?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 12: That rhymes of God from dust till spawn from dust
Speaker 12: till dog.
Speaker 3: Okay, the name is spawned JJ Okay, I like that.
Speaker 3: Thank you, sab It was a legitimate right, Thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 2: I like spawn with with the win, with the win,
Speaker 2: not the wind there?
Speaker 3: What did tod alrighty uh? Sam? And Iowa? Hi Sam,
Speaker 3: what's on your mind?
Speaker 8: Hey Dan? Thanks for calling back. Yep, yeah, I was.
Speaker 8: I worked for a brewery here and I when I
Speaker 8: deliver out the Field of Dreams, seems like you're kind
Speaker 8: of interested about the Field of Dreams. Every year I'm
Speaker 8: out there asking if they ever hear from MLB, and
Speaker 8: they say, we don't know nothing until they show up. Well,
Speaker 8: guess what. This year, They've showed up and they're moving
Speaker 8: dirt and they are going to have an MLB game
Speaker 8: out there next year. So I think, uh, as fresh,
Speaker 8: you should get on it and start booking a show
Speaker 8: and maybe do a field show from the right from
Speaker 8: the field or maybe from the porch of the house.
Speaker 8: I think it'd be a great, uh great opportunity for you.
Speaker 2: Well, I keep threatening to go on to Iowa. People
Speaker 2: have been great the response. We're just trying to figure
Speaker 2: out the right time to be able to do this.
Speaker 2: I have other things that we're doing this year. And
Speaker 2: trust me, before I leave, not this earth, but before
Speaker 2: I leave this show, maybe both. You know that I'll
Speaker 2: be out there for a show in Iowa. Uh, Lucas
Speaker 2: and Fort Wayne? Hey, Luke, what's on your mind?
Speaker 12: Hey Dan?
Speaker 14: I'll try and be brief, but I got to set
Speaker 14: the scene. The business I work for is closing its
Speaker 14: doors in a month, and I've been promised a five
Speaker 14: hundred dollars bonus if I stay on. Okay, if I
Speaker 14: remember right, you're from Ohio, Yeah, yeah, okay, so you
Speaker 14: might know the area I live in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Speaker 14: M We're planning a golf trip and trying to spend
Speaker 14: every single cent of this five hundred dollars bonus. Where
Speaker 14: would you send me so I can get the most
Speaker 14: extravagant bang for my buck.
Speaker 2: Kiwa would be a lot of fun. It's got a
Speaker 2: couple of great courses there. It's fun and people were
Speaker 2: great when I visited Kiowa. So that's the first one
Speaker 2: off top of my head. But good luck with that, Lucas.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of courses. But I mean, you want
Speaker 2: to go that you get kind of everything is included.
Speaker 2: You don't have to you know, go you don't have
Speaker 2: to have a car and go places. Now, if you
Speaker 2: want to go to Pebble. But I don't even think
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars will pay for a round at Pebble anymore.
Speaker 2: Fresh in Milwaukee is back, Hi Fresh? What's on your mind?
Speaker 15: What's up?
Speaker 14: DT?
Speaker 15: Well, me and the daughter was watching some WNBA this
Speaker 15: weekend and we started bringing up some of the greats.
Speaker 15: So could you do me a favor for the people
Speaker 15: who may have forgotten or don't know. Could you drop
Speaker 15: a little knowledge of the female air Jordan Cynthia Cooper.
Speaker 3: Cooper's great.
Speaker 2: Nancy Lieberman, Uh, Cheryl Miller. There's way too many, way
Speaker 2: too many, Lisa les Kansas Parker. Yeah, there's way too
Speaker 2: many great women who have played basketball. I actually played
Speaker 2: in games with Nancy Lieberman, and she was only a
Speaker 2: woman when it started, because when you started to play,
Speaker 2: you forgot all about that. She knew how to play
Speaker 2: and wasn't afraid of anybody there. And we're playing against
Speaker 2: guys who were on the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Dion played. We had.
Speaker 2: Ken Norton, he was a linebacker, so you had athletes
Speaker 2: on the floor and Nancy she was running the floor?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 3: Boy? Could she pass seton?
Speaker 2: Would you give us a final results of the poll
Speaker 2: questioned Paul. In the meantime, how about this day in
Speaker 2: sports history.
Speaker 6: Eighteen eighty three day and the New York Giants baseball
Speaker 6: team admitted all ladies free to the ballpark. It was
Speaker 6: the first ladies Day. Yeah, I have more of those players.
Speaker 6: Nineteen thirty eight, Jimmy Fox of the Red Sox had
Speaker 6: was walked six times in a game. That was the record.
Speaker 6: Nineteen seventy five, this was a I think we could
Speaker 6: say who won this trade? Milwaukee Bucks traded Kareem abdul
Speaker 6: Jabar to the Lakers in nineteen seventy and Walt Wesley.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Walt Wesley was thrown in there too.
Speaker 2: See two big men go to the Lakers for Elmore Smith,
Speaker 2: Brian Winters, Dave Myers, and Junior Bridgeman. Elmore Smith was
Speaker 2: a defensive minded center, Brian Winters a great shooter. Dave
Speaker 2: Myers was I feel bad. He was kind of known
Speaker 2: as Anne Myers brother and was drafted by the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 2: But Dave played at UCLA and a very good player.
Speaker 2: Junior Bridgeman became a billionaire businessman and was a really
Speaker 2: good basketball player just recently passed away. But I would
Speaker 2: say the Lakers got the better end of that.
Speaker 6: We had a workshop it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not quite sure, but I'm going
Speaker 2: to go out on a limb and I'm going to
Speaker 2: say I think the Lakers got the better end of that.
Speaker 3: Let's go around the room.
Speaker 2: If we learned anything, Oh Seaton final results of the
Speaker 2: pole question?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Todd's inability to rhyme. Is it deliberate or just
Speaker 4: a funny quirk that he is right now? People are
Speaker 4: going sixty one percent? Just a funny quirk. It's not
Speaker 4: a deliberate bit by him, Todd. Would you learn today?
Speaker 3: Aaron Judges currently minus twenty thousand to win the MVP.
Speaker 4: Aw Seeden, What did you learn Steve Sanson's stories?
Speaker 3: Marvin? You make time for Steve Stands?
Speaker 5: I do?
Speaker 12: I do?
Speaker 1: Paul?
Speaker 6: I still don't know where tight End University.
Speaker 3: Is Nashville, Ah, Paul or uh? Todd? What did I
Speaker 3: learn today?
Speaker 5: We all learned.
Speaker 11: You have a tough time believing Desmond Bane is the
Speaker 11: missing piece for the Orlando Magic.
Speaker 3: Have a great day, everybody. Talk to you tomorrow.