1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Final hour on this Monday, we'll check in with the 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: NBA Finals, also recap what happened at Oakmont US Open. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Steve SAMs from Golf Channel will join us. We'll catch 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: up with the former NBA coach PJ. Carlamis Carlissimo working 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: for the Mothership covering the NBA Finals tonight. Thunder at 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: the Pacers Game five OKC is favored by nine and 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: a half. We talked a lot about JJ Spahn at 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: the Open, and the Red Sox shipped out Rafael Devers 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: to the Giants eight seven to seven three DP Show 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: Our stat of today is always brought to you by 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: Panini America Official trading cards of the program. Good morning, 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: if you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner once again 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: plan the Ultimate Summer Movie. Celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: Jaws by watching the nineteen seventy five original streaming exclusively 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: on Peacock. 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: Poll question for the final hour of the programs Seaton. 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: Going back to a classic here, would you bet a 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 4: finger versus a million dollars? That Shoheo Tani will win 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: the NL MVP. Hmmm, finger v million? Okay, so I 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: lose a finger if he doesn't win the MVP. Yeah, 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 4: but you get a million dollars if he does. 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: All right, who would put up a finger? Paully and 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: Seaton Todd? You wouldn't put up a finger that Otani 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: is gonna win the MVP. I'm not gonna do that, 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: all right, tax three million dollars? 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 5: Oh, tax free. 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna hold on to my digits. 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: Marvin, I'll losing not my thumb, but you're gonna lose 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: a pinky, fine with me? 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you do that. Okay, so there's three of you. 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, I will not double down necessarily, but I'll 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 6: go finger of your choice. That's how sure? 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 3: I hmmm? 37 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 6: Which is that's like the double down of the fingerbat? 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: I might do that with Aaron Judge. 39 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: I just once again, you have to have that guy 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: who's having a year that's comparable. Nobody's having a year 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: comparable to Aaron Judge. 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, seton what are the corporatelyales of crowdfunding a million 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: dollars versus Paul's finger of his choice? 44 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 6: I think we'd have to run that past management in 45 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 6: some fashion. 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: Well, I'm managing it. Yeah, I agree, I greenlighted, green light. 47 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: All right, I'll get I'll start working on the social. 48 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: Let's bring in PJ. Carlissimo, ESPN, NBA Studio Analysts, ESPN 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: Game Analysts, PJ. 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: How are you excellent? 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 5: DP? 52 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 7: How are you? 53 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. 54 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: I'm feeling like Shay gilgis Alexander right now. 55 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 5: You should be feeling great. 56 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: Man, Help me understand. Three minutes to go on Friday 57 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: night and he takes over. Indiana knows he's taken over, 58 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: and you still can't stop him. 59 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 7: Why he's a He's a really tough combination, the size, 60 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 7: the ball, handling, he's got the middle game. I don't 61 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 7: want to say he's a good three point show. He's 62 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 7: a decent three point show. He made the only three 63 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 7: in the entire fourth quarter. I kept saying that Marcuestershire 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 7: during the game. If OKC doesn't makes some threes, they 65 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 7: can't win this game. And they didn't. But Shay made 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 7: one that really mattered down the stretch. He wants the ball. 67 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 7: He's herky, jerky, he just he's like he reminds me 68 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 7: a little bit of pac Man years ago. Like he 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 7: doesn't straight line anything. He goes over, sideways around the guy. 70 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 7: He gets in front of a player, he stops, he 71 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 7: initiates contact. He's got that forearm out a lot. You know, 72 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 7: the other team is always gonna cry, hey, he created 73 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 7: the contact, his defender didn't. He just he can get 74 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 7: basically wherever he wants to get. It's usually the mid 75 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 7: range jumper, and then not always in late game situations. 76 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 7: He's a really good passer. He sees the rest of 77 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 7: the floor. So the rest of the game he'll involve 78 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 7: his team. And I'm not saying he won't pass it 79 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 7: at the end, but if it's a big enough shot, 80 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 7: he knows he's supposed to take it. 81 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: What went wrong with the Pacers? 82 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: Rick carlosle used the word stat which was interesting. 83 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 7: But he is obviously lead by seven points after three quarters, 84 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 7: and not that there's always a correlation, but in the 85 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 7: first three games they owned the fourth quarter. They were 86 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 7: the best fourth quarter team in the first three games 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 7: of the playoff. So you're sitting there between the third 88 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 7: and fourth quarter and thinking, boy, Indiana is in really 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 7: good shape. I thought one thing happened that kind of 90 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 7: got lost in the shuffle. On the OKC side, Chet 91 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 7: Holmgren and Alex Caruso scored the first nine points, like 92 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 7: it went from eighty seven to eighty to eighty nine, 93 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 7: eighty nine, and it was all Alex Caruso and Cheded Holmgren. 94 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 7: Chet had six, Ac had three, and boom, like right away, 95 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 7: this big advantage, it was gone. So now we're starting 96 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 7: all over. It's an even game. Rick thought they got 97 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 7: sped up a little bit. They weren't popping the ball 98 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 7: around as much. It was sticking. They obviously weren't making threes, 99 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 7: which early on had been their bread and butter in 100 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 7: that game, so it kind of got away from them. 101 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 7: I don't want to say they lost their composure, but 102 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 7: they certainly didn't play with the confidence and with the 103 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 7: purpose on the offensive end, especially the other thing. I 104 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 7: mean with all it was said Ben Matheren, who's their 105 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 7: best free throw shooter, missed a pair that would have 106 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 7: still made it a one point game with like twenty 107 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 7: four seconds to go. So the series has been much 108 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 7: more competitive and much closer than I thought it was 109 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 7: going to be starting out. 110 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: Other topics helped me understand the Desmond Vane trade. From 111 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: both sides here. 112 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 7: Well, I can understand it from the Orlando side in 113 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 7: terms of a quality player. They really struggle at times offensively. 114 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 7: Jamal Mosley's done a really good job there. It's hard 115 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 7: a little bit to evaluate him this year because you 116 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 7: had so many injuries. Polo had a great year, Wagner 117 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 7: was out a lot, both Wagner, So the team is 118 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 7: closer than a lot of people realize. Orlando's kind of 119 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 7: poised to make a run in the Eastern Conference, particularly 120 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 7: with who knows what's going to happen with the Celtics. 121 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 7: I don't think the coaching is necessarily the absolute key, 122 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 7: you know, I'm biased about that, but I think the 123 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 7: Knicks are going to be okay regardless of what they do. 124 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 7: I don't think they're going to be as good as 125 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 7: they were with Tibbs coaching, but I think it's a 126 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 7: good time to make a move in the East. So 127 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 7: I can understand what Orlando's thinking. But boy, they gave 128 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 7: up a lot. They really gave up a lot. Not CACP, 129 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 7: the jury's out on. Loved him in Denver, liked him 130 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 7: in LA. He had a really tough year. Is he 131 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 7: too old? 132 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 5: Is he? 133 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 7: On the downside, I don't know. I still think there's 134 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 7: something there. Greg Anthony s. Soun's a very good player 135 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 7: and a slew of draft picks, So I thought they 136 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 7: gave up a lot, But they got they got a 137 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 7: really special player back. Desmond Bane is a big time shooter. 138 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 7: He's a strong, physical guard. He's a very willing defender. 139 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 7: He's a good defender. So I think they got a 140 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 7: heck of a player that can really help them advance 141 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 7: in the East. 142 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: But boy, they gave up a ton. 143 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 8: PJ. 144 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: Carlissimo, former NBA coach, an analyst for the Mothership. He'll 145 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: be covering the NBA finals. You mentioned the Knicks. What 146 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: are the Knicks doing? 147 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 7: They don't know. De Peter's no way we could know. 148 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 7: They have no idea themselves what they're doing. So I 149 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 7: just don't understand it that I conventional logic, which doesn't 150 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 7: really concern me, is you don't fire a guy who 151 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 7: says talented a coach is tips. You can say whatever 152 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 7: you want about managing the bench, and you know they 153 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 7: didn't get as far as you look at what they've 154 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 7: done in the last twenty five years and his four 155 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 7: years of putting them in the playoffs, they get to 156 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 7: the Eastern Conference finals. He's a proven winner. He was 157 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 7: a big factor back in eight. Doctor be the first 158 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 7: to tell you that when the Celtics won there. He's 159 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 7: really a special coach. You're rid of a coach, and 160 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 7: it doesn't seem like they had a plan. The Knicks, 161 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 7: you know, are still one of the three or four, 162 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 7: you know, pre eminent franchises in the league. You think 163 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 7: people you don't want to coach there despite and I 164 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 7: don't think it's always necess leon. You know, you just 165 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 7: don't know with the ownership how much there's interference there. 166 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 7: I don't know who made this decision. It's easy for 167 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 7: them to make it look like, well, the players weren't 168 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 7: happy playing for Tibsie. You got a couple guys that 169 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 7: have had the best year they've ever had in the NBA. 170 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 7: So I don't think they're really thinking, I don't like 171 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 7: playing for this guy. You know, it's been good for 172 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 7: me and the team's been winning. Where they're going now. 173 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 7: I don't know the calling other teams to talk to 174 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 7: their coaches that are there, and very good coaches. Okay, good, 175 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 7: they picked good teams to call those guys that are 176 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 7: very good coaches. Why would you ever give permission for 177 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 7: the Knicks to talk to the guy? I mean, I 178 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 7: don't understand. 179 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: That any chance, any chance Rick Brunson takes over as 180 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: the head coach of the Knicks. 181 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 7: I would have thought, yes, everybody's telling me no. And 182 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 7: who everybody is, I don't know. People around the Knicks, 183 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 7: the broadcasters, assistant coaches, a couple of players I talked to, 184 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 7: they all think no. That that to me, he was 185 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 7: kind of from the beginning. Rick Brunson's capable of being 186 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 7: a coach in the NBA. He obviously tips valued his counsel. 187 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 7: You know, he was a major factor for them. I 188 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 7: would have thought, it just doesn't seem to be mentioned 189 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 7: at all. Whether it becomes a fallback, I don't know. 190 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 7: Doesn't seem like it's gonna happen. 191 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: Kevin Durant's value now is what I. 192 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 7: Think, still very very good. He's still is going to 193 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 7: get you thirty or close to it. He's still We 194 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 7: talked about how special Shay is. Kevin in his prime 195 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 7: and he's not far from his prime, was the best 196 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 7: end of a game player you would ever want. He 197 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 7: was so big, he was so good with the ball. 198 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 7: He shot threes, shoots threes even. 199 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: Better, better than Lebron closing time or Steph closing. 200 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 7: I think, yes, you know I want him because Lebron 201 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 7: always as great as Lebron is, he was never a 202 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 7: great free throw shoot. He's become He's much better than 203 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 7: he was. KD was the whole package. He was going 204 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 7: to shoot ninety percent free throws. He was too big, 205 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 7: he could shoot over everybody. He had a good handle 206 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 7: for a guy that big, and he could score outside 207 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 7: or inside, and if you followed him, he was automatic. 208 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 7: So he was a tremendous end of game player. Not 209 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 7: that he wasn't good the other forty seven minutes, but 210 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 7: he was money at the end of a game. 211 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: What's the best performance you ever witnessed, whether you're coaching 212 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: against or coaching for, But who put up the best 213 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: performance ever? 214 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 7: Well, I want to say Tim Duncan, but I'm trying 215 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 7: to think of an individual one the five years I 216 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 7: was lucky enough to be an assistant in San Antonio, 217 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 7: there were so many times that he got us through 218 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 7: to the end. But he wasn't you know, he wasn't 219 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 7: one of those guys that normally put up like forty 220 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 7: and did like twenty two points in a row. That's 221 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 7: a heck of a question. I'm tempted to say somebody 222 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 7: like Kevin, but I'm getting senile, so I can't really 223 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 7: come up with an opponent or a game where I 224 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 7: just like sat there and said, I can't believe what 225 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 7: this guy's doing. Just scored time, you know, like kind 226 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 7: of what Shaye did the other night, what it was 227 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 7: at fifteen in the last sixteen. But not taking anything away, 228 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 7: he's he is the MVP, He's great. 229 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 5: Jolkic is another one. DP. 230 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 7: I don't I would, I know, we don't want to 231 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 7: get into the Jokic Shae debate right now, but Jokic 232 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 7: did that a number of times. The way he impacted 233 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 7: a game, I mean in so many different ways, with 234 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 7: the passing, with the scoring himself, with getting into the 235 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 7: free throw line, the way he understands the game. 236 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 3: What about witnessed anything with Jordan Oh. 237 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 7: I mean that was like automatic, but it was like 238 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 7: you were so immune to it. You're just like when 239 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 7: he did it, you go, yeah, of course. It was 240 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 7: kind of like when they when they ran out of time, 241 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 7: whether yesterday they put Tiger on and it was like 242 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 7: a nice watching I had forgotten that last butt rolled 243 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 7: around a little bit. But Rocco wasn't being smarterer game. 244 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 7: He went like, yeah, of course he made the putt. 245 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 7: That's what Tiger does. That was the way it was 246 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 7: mj Like whatever he did, you just go, okay, you 247 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 7: know if that's what Michael Jordan did, which made it 248 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 7: kind of special that you actually expected it and you 249 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 7: just kind of shrug your shoulders and go, yeah, that 250 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 7: was Michael Jordan. It's funny talking to a lot of 251 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 7: the younger players now in a sense they certainly don't 252 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 7: remember him, but they haven't even seen him that much. Honestly, 253 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 7: they don't appreciate exactly what he did on a regular basis. 254 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: What was more physical the NBA in the eighties or 255 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: the Big East in the eighties. 256 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 7: I think in the eighties it was it was actually 257 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 7: the Big East because nothing was called it was great. 258 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 7: It was expected. This series, talking about physical, you got 259 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 7: two teams that prefer to pick up folk court. Anytime 260 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 7: there's a dead ball, they'll both pick up ninety four feet. 261 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 7: They have a lot of physical defenders. That's the way 262 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 7: they defend. It's really hard to officiate this series because 263 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 7: this contact and there's guys laying on each other virtually 264 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 7: every play, and when you go to the lane, it's 265 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 7: very rare when somebody gets all the way to the 266 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 7: basket with like without Home Grin or Miles Turner or 267 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 7: a couple of these really good long athletes just challenging 268 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 7: every shot. I really think the defense in this series 269 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 7: is excellent. 270 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're not fighting like you guys did in 271 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: the eighties. 272 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 7: Well that was just I mean, it was just I 273 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 7: don't know whether Dave had him to Dave Gavin had 274 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 7: a meeting with the officials or what, but it was 275 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 7: like the funny part was it was expected though, Like 276 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 7: you didn't even look like a guy would go through 277 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 7: and get knocked down. He'd be up, he'd be bleeding. 278 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 7: Nobody would say a word. It was like, okay, you 279 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 7: know they follow us. That's the way it was. You 280 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 7: know what it was like on the playground DP when 281 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 7: you were young and it was a game to eleven 282 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 7: and it got to be ten ten, Well you had 283 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 7: to like make a jump shot or something like that 284 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 7: because if you and inside guys just punched, it knocked 285 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 7: you down. 286 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 5: That was the way the Big East was. Oh he 287 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 5: was most of it was in the game. 288 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. Save that voice for tonight. Sorry, well, brother, 289 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: thank you, GP. Good seeing, Great to see you, PJ, PJ, Carlssimo. 290 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: He'll be on the call tonight. It'll be Game five 291 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: and that'll be on ESPN Radio. The tip off is 292 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: slated for eight thirty Eastern ESPN Radio and also on ABC. 293 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: Steve Sands of Gulf Channel will join us coming up 294 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: here in a little bit. We'll recap what we saw 295 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: over the weekend. More of your phone calls as well. 296 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: Eight seven to seven three DP show. We're back after this. 297 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 298 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: the nation. 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Coming out 326 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: quick Story went to dinner Friday night in the city 327 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: with Adam Sandler. All right, I wanted to get together 328 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: with him, find out how the movie is and is 329 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: it done it's ready to come out next month, and 330 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: find out, you know, how many scenes that I'm in 331 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: that got caught out and how many actually made the movie. 332 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: So I'm just doing kind of a you. 333 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: Know, just a welfare check here on how my career 334 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: is going with Sandler. Sandler goes, I'm going to go 335 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: play basketball and I'll meet you at the restaurant. Well, 336 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: the restaurant's really nice, but it's not very far from 337 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: the basketball courts. So Sandler's got his Hawaiian shirt on, 338 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: baggy shorts. He's playing a couple of games. Comes in, 339 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: he's sweaty, and you know, of course he walks in 340 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: and everybody goes, that's Adam Sandler. They didn't care that, 341 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: you know, they had a dress code, it didn't matter. 342 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: So he's a mess when he comes in. So, you know, 343 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: we have a dinner, great, great conversation. We're leaving. He 344 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: said where are you walking to? I said, well, I'm 345 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: going to walk to Soho. He goes, I'll walk with you, Danny, 346 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: and then he goes, you don't want to walk with 347 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: the Sandman, And I go, okay, why he was actually 348 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: saying you do not want to walk with him? Because 349 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: we probably passed ninety people. Let's say eighty of those 350 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: people ask for a photograph. It was you know, in 351 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: the middle of traffic, people crossing street, crazy crazy, and 352 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: he goes, I told you, Dannie, you don't want to 353 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: walk with this sand Man, but he was polite. One 354 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: person out of eighty asked for a photograph of me. 355 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: One guy asked me if I would take the photograph 356 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: of him and Adam Sandler. 357 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: I said sure, I'd be more than happy to. But 358 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: Sandman is good, and you know, maybe. 359 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: There's one other movie that he's going to be working 360 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: on after Happy Go More two. A lot of cameos 361 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: and Happy gil Moore too. A lot of big time 362 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: golfers in there. And I found out Shooter McGavin. How 363 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: Shooter McGavin got his name in the movie. But I'm 364 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 2: gonna make you wait for that because I have to 365 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: get to Steve Sands of Golf Channel, very popular play 366 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: by play announcer, host and interviewer Steve how are you? 367 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 11: Shooter McGavin was at the Players this year, Dan and 368 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 11: I was on a stage with him and got to 369 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 11: meet him and then hang out with him for a 370 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 11: little while, and I was like, man, this is a man. 371 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 12: Shoot him. 372 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 11: McGavin's like an incredible character in sports movie lore, and 373 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 11: it was pretty wild. But let me get back to 374 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 11: the Adam Sandler thing. One love when you name drop. 375 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 11: I think that's very cool. And Two, how in the 376 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 11: world can you walk block after block in New York 377 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 11: City and only have one person ask for your autograph? 378 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 11: You came to dinner with me about a month ago 379 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 11: in winter Park and we couldn't take a bite without 380 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 11: everyone in the restaurant running byes and calling, Oh my gosh, 381 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 11: that's Keith Arperman. Oh, I'm sorry, Dan, Patch, Dan, what's 382 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 11: going on? 383 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: Good to have you back on, Steve. 384 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 11: It's great to be with you. 385 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 5: Dan. 386 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 11: How you doing, buddy? 387 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: The best golf movie of all time is? 388 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 11: Oh, Caddy Shack. 389 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 5: It's not even close. 390 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 11: Come on, really, come on, I mean Caddy Shack, you can. 391 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 11: I mean, I love Adam Sandler and I love all 392 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 11: things golf genre with Adam Sandler. I mean, come on now, 393 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 11: I mean Caddy Shack? Is there something better than Caddyshack? 394 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 11: Are you gonna give me Kevin Costner and that whole thing? 395 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: Okay? If I take Caddyshack off the board? 396 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 11: Oh man, you know I haven't seen the second version, 397 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 11: but the first version with Adam Sandler, I mean that 398 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 11: made me laugh out loud. I mean, golf usually doesn't 399 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 11: make you laugh out loud. Yeah, I gotta see. I 400 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 11: gotta see the second version though. Are you saying it's good? 401 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 11: Were you in the movie by. 402 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: The way, Yeah? Wow, of course. I mean I'll tell 403 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 3: you what, man, you you're a big time man. 404 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: I know. 405 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: But I always find time for you. 406 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: Is that right? 407 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: Yes? 408 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 11: You come to the Orlando area like once a month 409 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 11: and I hear from you once a year. Is that 410 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 11: always making time for me? 411 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 5: Yes? 412 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: Yes, because I got to meet up with rich Lerner. 413 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: Uh foaldo Like there's a lot of a lot of yeah, 414 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 2: a lot. 415 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 11: The best The best part about you living in that 416 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 11: circle of people is that Lerner now lives in Connecticut 417 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 11: and Faluda lives in Montana, and you're saying that you 418 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 11: have to see them both when you're in Orlando. Yes, 419 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 11: that's my favorite part. 420 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: No, no houses. 421 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 11: That's nice. It's nice of you. 422 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: Okay. 423 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: I love what rich Lerner said last night. He said 424 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: that JJ spawn he beat the best and he beat 425 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: the beast. Yeah, he did in in that order. 426 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: Did he beat the best or did he beat the beast? 427 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 11: I think he beat the beasts first. I think certain 428 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 11: major championship venues. Aside from Augusta National, which hosts the 429 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 11: Masters every year, there's certain US Open and PGA Championship 430 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 11: and Open Championship venues that just mean more. They just 431 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 11: do you. You do it Open at Saint Andrew's and 432 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 11: it means more than most of the other venues. And 433 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 11: I think Oakmont is one of those places. Dan, when 434 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 11: you win at Oakmont, you have conquered Oakmont more than 435 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 11: you've conquered the other one hundred and fifty five guys 436 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 11: who are in the field. I agree with Rich, but 437 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 11: I would go beast before the field. 438 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 2: How many golf courses in the world do we tune 439 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: in to see the golf course and then you tune 440 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: in to see how the players play the golf course. 441 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 11: Augusta National for the Masters every year. I've never been anywhere, 442 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 11: you know, I've said this to people all the time. 443 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 11: You can go to Churchill Downs on the first Saturday 444 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 11: in May. You're going to turn around and watch the derby. 445 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 11: At some point you're gonna go to Wrigley or Fenway 446 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 11: or whatever your cathedrals are, fog Allen at some point, 447 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 11: whatever your cathedrals are. In sports, you're gonna be watching 448 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 11: the sporting event. You can walk in. We talked about 449 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 11: this before. 450 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 5: Dan. 451 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 11: You can go to Augusta, get a badge for a day, 452 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 11: walk around, eat those horrible Prometo cheese sandwiches, buy yourself 453 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 11: two thousand dollars worth of merchandise because you think you're 454 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 11: never gonna go back there again. You have to buy 455 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 11: something for every human being you've ever met in your life, 456 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 11: whether you love them or not. Have a beer, walk 457 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 11: the eighteen holes, see the place you're so familiar with, 458 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 11: not see a single golf shot, and walk away, go 459 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 11: home and go that's the best day of my life 460 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 11: and you never saw a shot. The course at Augusta 461 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 11: National matters. Pebble Beach, I think is in that category. 462 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 11: We see that regularly. But you can just walk around 463 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 11: Pebble and enjoy the beauty and again Saint Andrews, the 464 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 11: familiarity of it, the history of it. But I think 465 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 11: it's those three And if you're going to do a 466 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 11: US Open, I think next year's venue might be the 467 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 11: best golf course in America shinnecock Out on the tip 468 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 11: of Long Island, but Oakmont is one of those places 469 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 11: that's hosted the most in but it's also it's just 470 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 11: so famous for being hard. It's just so hard. It's 471 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 11: fun for US hacks to watch the best players in 472 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 11: the world try to get it around there. 473 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: He Steve Sand's NBC sports play by play announcer, host 474 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: interviewer working for the Golf Channel as well. When you 475 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: start to look at what hell this played out, You 476 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: didn't have big names at the top of the leaderboard, 477 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: right Why you. 478 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 11: Know, somebody told me a couple of days ago. I 479 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 11: found it interesting. PGA Tour events, week in week out 480 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 11: are not set up as difficult as this. So if 481 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 11: you're a little bit off your game and you're still 482 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 11: the best player in the world, you can get it 483 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 11: out of the rough, you can get it up and 484 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 11: in around the greens. You can't do that at a 485 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 11: US Open. So if the best players in the world 486 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 11: are just a little bit off at a regular tour event, 487 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 11: they still end up on a leader board, whereas in 488 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 11: a US Open, especially a US Open at Oakmont, if 489 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 11: you're a little off the target, like Scheffler was, like 490 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 11: Rory was, like Shaffley was, like ludvig Oldberg was. You know, 491 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 11: if you're top four or five players in the world. 492 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 11: Just a hair off of a US Open, you're gonna 493 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 11: get punished, and those guys got punished last week. 494 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 3: Why isn't Rory meeting with the media when he has 495 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: a bad round? 496 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 11: You know what's sad? 497 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 7: Dan? 498 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 11: I forget the night we had dinner. I'm being all 499 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 11: kidding aside. We had dinner one night and we were 500 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 11: talking about this at dinner, and it's still going on. 501 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 11: I think he's really bothered by what happened at the 502 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 11: PGA Championship when the USGA and the PGA of America 503 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 11: basically threw him under the bus and leaked out that 504 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 11: his driver had to get taken away. So did Scotti 505 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 11: Scheffler's by the way, Dan, and he went on to win, 506 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 11: but his name wasn't leaked out. 507 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: Rory's was. 508 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 11: He had just won the career Grand Slam. You know, 509 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 11: I think that. I think there's a motivation factor going 510 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 11: on right now that he's trying to find that gear again. 511 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 11: His whole life was geared towards doing something. Now that 512 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 11: he's done it, he's naturally kind of taking his foot 513 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 11: off the gas a little bit. I think he's upset 514 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 11: that his name was leaked out. He didn't like the 515 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 11: way the media handled that. The media actually went forward 516 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 11: with that, as opposed to perhaps going to him off 517 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 11: the record and say, hey, I just found this out. 518 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 11: What would you like me to do with it? Because 519 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 11: I have to go report it that kind of thing. 520 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 11: And I also think he's not playing very well Dan, 521 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 11: and I don't think he likes talking about that too often. 522 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 11: But I got to tell you, as much as I 523 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 11: love Rory, I think you have to be professional and 524 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 11: you have to speak when you win and when you lose. 525 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 11: Jack Nicholas was the greatest champion in the sport, Dan, 526 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 11: he was also the greatest loser in the sport, and 527 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 11: I think he needs to man up and speak to 528 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 11: the media because you don't want them directing the narrative. 529 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 11: You should direct the narrative. And I think he's making 530 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 11: a mistake, and I hope he gets back and starts 531 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 11: to do what he normally does, because, by the way, Dan, 532 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 11: he's so great with the media, he needs to do it. 533 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 11: It's not professional. 534 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: Because Jack won eighteen majors. I think he finished runner 535 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: up nineteen times. 536 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, nineteen times. And by the way, Rory is such 537 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 11: a good guy and he's so smart and insightful, and 538 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 11: he's fabulous with the writers. He's fabulous on podcasts, he's 539 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 11: fabulous on fabulous on shows like yours and on TV 540 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 11: with us. You know, I hope he gets back to 541 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 11: doing it regularly because he's so good at it. But 542 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 11: right now he's in a little bit of a funk 543 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 11: with the media and he's not giving the media what 544 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 11: it wants it. By the way, Dan, one last thing 545 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 11: on that he doesn't owe the media. You and I 546 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 11: talked about this. No athlete owes the media anything. They're 547 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 11: right when they say that. They shouldn't say that out loud, 548 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 11: but they don't owe the media anything. They do owe 549 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 11: their fans and their sponsors everything. The media just happens 550 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 11: to be the conduit between the athlete and the audience, 551 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 11: whether it's sponsors or whether it's fans. And I think 552 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 11: that players need to get out of the realm of 553 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 11: thinking we owe the media something, we owe the fans 554 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 11: that sponsors something. The media is just the outlet between 555 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 11: the two parties. 556 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 3: Didn't Rory make you cry? 557 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 11: He did make me cry at Royal Port Rush in 558 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 11: twenty nineteen. 559 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 5: My mother. 560 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 11: I'll tell you quick story my mother had just passed away. 561 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 11: And you know, you hear from a lot of people. 562 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 11: You hear from a lot of family and friends. Clearly 563 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 11: you know when your parents pass away or someone close 564 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 11: he passes away. In this case, it was my mom. 565 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 11: We go to Northern Ireland and I had never heard 566 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 11: from Rory. I hadn't seen Rory since my mother had 567 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 11: passed away. It had been about three weeks and he 568 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 11: missed the cut at Royal Port Rush in his home country, 569 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 11: which had all the pressure on his shoulders and his 570 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 11: back going into that week, and right before we were 571 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 11: about to do the interview on Friday, after missing the cut, 572 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 11: after all that emotion from him, he literally looks at 573 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 11: Tommy Roy's in my year going okay. Thirty seconds out 574 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 11: said great, and Rory looks at me and goes, hey, 575 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 11: I didn't want to text you and I hadn't seen you. 576 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 11: Puts his hand on my arm and says, I'm so 577 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 11: sorry to hear about your mom. I wanted to make 578 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 11: sure I told you that in person, and the yikes stand. 579 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 11: I mean we were out on the air, but I 580 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 11: was like WHOA. I backed away from the camera, hit 581 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 11: the talkback button and said to Tommy. I said to 582 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 11: Tommy Roy, you're gonna need a minute. He goes, no, 583 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 11: we gotta get so, we gotta get to you. And 584 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 11: I go, I'm gonna need a minute. And I looked 585 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 11: at Rory a way, you gotta be kidding me, And 586 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 11: it was. It was a very very nice moment. Gives 587 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 11: you a little bit of insight as to what type 588 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 11: of human being he is, which is why we all 589 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 11: want to hear from him, whether he wins or loses. 590 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 11: But yeah, it was a very very nice say. He 591 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 11: definitely got me, and not many people get me, but 592 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 11: he got me hard there. Great to talk to you again, Dan, 593 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 11: You're the best man. I love it. 594 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: Thank you. 595 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: Steve Sands works for a golf channel, also part of 596 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: the coverage of the US Open. 597 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: Uh, Roy's a good interview. 598 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: And maybe it's selfish that I mean, I want to 599 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: hear from him because he has something to say. But 600 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: you know, Steve Sands brings up some interesting things about 601 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: that he did get thrown under the bus. You know, 602 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: when they go, oh, he had an illegal driver, it's 603 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: not like he did something that was nefarious. It was 604 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: his driver that the face of it was so beat 605 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: up it actually gave a benefit to it, I guess, 606 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: but it was all unintentional and Scottie Scheffler had the 607 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: same thing. They confiscated his driver as well. He ended 608 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: up winning the tournament. Sean in Rochester. Hi, Sean, thanks 609 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: for holding what's on your mind today? 610 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 13: Wow, it's amazing about really. 611 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: Yes you are, Sean. 612 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 12: Oh my goodness. Wow. 613 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 13: I just wanted to comment on your comments from last week. 614 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 13: I was trying to get in. I've never tried to 615 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 13: call into your show, but I've like listened to the 616 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 13: show for a long time. But I felt moved to 617 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 13: call into your show because you were just like your 618 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 13: comments on Brian Wilson and then it became fly Stone 619 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 13: and all that, like we're just so like I didn't like. 620 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 13: I know, you guys are a great like sports organization 621 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 13: and you understand. 622 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 12: Sports, that's what you do. 623 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 13: But I have to say I was just really impressed 624 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 13: with the fact that you knew that history of like 625 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 13: Brian Wilson and the Beatles and all that stuff. 626 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: Well, I love you music. I've been very fortunate. 627 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: I grew up in a household where my brothers were 628 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: One of my oldest brothers was collecting albums and told 629 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: me what was good music and thank you for the 630 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: phone call, and I got I had friends who had cars, 631 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: so I got to go see concerts. You know when 632 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: you spend the seventies where you're going to see Errol Smith, 633 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: Stone's Zeppelin, who David Bowie. I mean, that's every kid's 634 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: dream and to have that music and then understand who 635 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: influenced the Beach Boys. I didn't get the Beach Boys 636 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: until I got the Beach Boys, and then you realize 637 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: there was so much more to them. And Brian Wilson, 638 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: you know, the leader of the Beach Boys passing away. 639 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: But I've always been a sly in the family Stone fan, 640 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: and I brought this up years ago about them, and 641 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: then I think Questlove was going to do a documentary, 642 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: and I thought that's awesome, because you know, we should 643 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: remember some of these bands and some of these artists 644 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: and who they influenced. So it's just a love of music, 645 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: a willingness to understand or listen to something. I didn't 646 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: get Dylan when I was growing up. It did not 647 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: get Bob Dylan didn't understand it. It was like, what's 648 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: the big deal? And all of a sudden it clicked, 649 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, I became you know, 650 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: a know it all country. I didn't get it. It 651 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: was country western when I was growing up. Didn't get it. 652 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden I got it. But 653 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: I didn't give up on it. You know, sometimes you 654 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: go you listen to something, you go, nah, not for me. 655 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: But I kept revisiting it because I was missing. 656 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: So it was me. 657 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden country western became country. 658 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: And then I got Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings and 659 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: George Strait, I got Hank Williams and you know, you 660 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: got that music you under and the great songwriting now 661 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: to me is country. Some of the great songwriting is country, 662 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: led by Chris Stapleton. But it took a while, but 663 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: I love it, you know, I love listening to it. 664 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: I love when somebody says, hey, try this, Yeah, Marv, 665 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: Is there an artists that you'd like to interview, just 666 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: to pick their brain? Like, what were you thinking when 667 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: you made X. 668 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 5: Y and Z. 669 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: Well, my problem with the Dylan movie was they don't 670 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: really get behind the science of this is why I 671 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: wrote this or how I wrote this? How long it 672 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: took me? To write that that was my biggest knock 673 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 2: on it. But then Dylan doesn't share that. Robert Plant 674 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: I'd love to interview because he's reticent to talk about Zeppelin. 675 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: Now there is the Zeppelin documentary, but like they were 676 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: what they were doing, when they were doing it, how 677 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: they were doing it, how big they were, Like what 678 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: is that feeling? 679 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 5: Like? 680 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's way. 681 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: Too many musicians, you know McCartney, but I want somebody 682 00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: who has can have some kind of let me look 683 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: at myself, let me be willing to go back and 684 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: under you know, hey, I did this, this is why 685 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: we did this. That's what fascinates me. You know how 686 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: many times you hear an artist go I wrote it 687 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: in fifteen minutes. 688 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: I just had it. 689 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: I had to write it down, and I created this 690 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: in fifteen minutes. It happens a lot more than you think. 691 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: And I've been around Darius Rucker where he'll go, I've 692 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: been you know, I have to put a song away 693 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: and then I have to come back like three months later, 694 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: and then you add to it. Then you like you can't, 695 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: it just doesn't work, and then all of a sudden, 696 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: then it works. Like I'd have a hard time putting 697 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: a song to bed where I go it's done, and 698 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: then you'd go, I give drive me crazy. I'd be like, 699 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna tweet that I'm gonna go more 700 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: tambourine there. But I have great appreciation for artists, and 701 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: that's what musicians are. Their art is, you know, a 702 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: paint rush with their voice or their instrument, as opposed 703 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: to an artist who puts something on campus. 704 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: Whoa got a little heavy there. 705 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: How about we take a break, last call for phone calls, 706 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 2: what we learn, what's in store tomorrow? 707 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of 708 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six 709 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 710 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 2: I believe JJ Spahn will join us on the program tomorrow. 711 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 2: Fritzi's been working on that. Do you remember when he 712 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: joined us at Pebble Beach and he walked up to 713 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: me and he said, uh, hi, JJ Spahn, I'm the 714 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: other black golfer on tour. He was a funny guy. 715 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: So I was rooting for him because it was a 716 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: great story out of nowhere. He's won one other time 717 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: and you're just kind of you bogie. Five of the 718 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: first six, I'm like, oh, just you know what? It 719 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: went from he might win to h that was a 720 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: cute story. Oh you know he was leading after three 721 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,959 Speaker 2: rounds and all of a sudden, you go, all right, 722 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 2: it was a nice story. We got some nice partying gifts, 723 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he just kept kind 724 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: of plugging along, plugging along, and then nobody really took 725 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: control of it. Let me see, is it Saday in Florida? 726 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: At least that's how it's pronounce or spelled. Is it Soaday? 727 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 12: It's save Sabe but save. 728 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Tyler wrote sad like it was Saday this singer. 729 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 12: No, I wish I could say like that. But anyway, 730 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 12: first time caller, you guys were amazing five foot nine. 731 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: Point six, Okay. 732 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 12: I just wanted to chime in on Fritzy's rod deficiency, 733 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 12: not disrespectfully, but as a wordsmith myself. I came up 734 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 12: with a couple of spawns. Do you want to hear him? 735 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 736 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: Sure? Why not? 737 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 12: Spawn with the wind? 738 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 3: Okay? 739 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 12: That rhymes of God from dust till spawn from dust 740 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 12: till dog. 741 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 3: Okay, the name is spawned JJ Okay, I like that. 742 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 3: Thank you, sab It was a legitimate right, Thank you, 743 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 3: thank you. 744 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: I like spawn with with the win, with the win, 745 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: not the wind there? 746 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: What did tod alrighty uh? Sam? And Iowa? Hi Sam, 747 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 3: what's on your mind? 748 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 8: Hey Dan? Thanks for calling back. Yep, yeah, I was. 749 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 8: I worked for a brewery here and I when I 750 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 8: deliver out the Field of Dreams, seems like you're kind 751 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 8: of interested about the Field of Dreams. Every year I'm 752 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 8: out there asking if they ever hear from MLB, and 753 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 8: they say, we don't know nothing until they show up. Well, 754 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 8: guess what. This year, They've showed up and they're moving 755 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 8: dirt and they are going to have an MLB game 756 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 8: out there next year. So I think, uh, as fresh, 757 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 8: you should get on it and start booking a show 758 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 8: and maybe do a field show from the right from 759 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 8: the field or maybe from the porch of the house. 760 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 8: I think it'd be a great, uh great opportunity for you. 761 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 2: Well, I keep threatening to go on to Iowa. People 762 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: have been great the response. We're just trying to figure 763 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 2: out the right time to be able to do this. 764 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: I have other things that we're doing this year. And 765 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: trust me, before I leave, not this earth, but before 766 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: I leave this show, maybe both. You know that I'll 767 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 2: be out there for a show in Iowa. Uh, Lucas 768 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 2: and Fort Wayne? Hey, Luke, what's on your mind? 769 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 12: Hey Dan? 770 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 14: I'll try and be brief, but I got to set 771 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 14: the scene. The business I work for is closing its 772 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 14: doors in a month, and I've been promised a five 773 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 14: hundred dollars bonus if I stay on. Okay, if I 774 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 14: remember right, you're from Ohio, Yeah, yeah, okay, so you 775 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 14: might know the area I live in Fort Wayne, Indiana. 776 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 14: M We're planning a golf trip and trying to spend 777 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 14: every single cent of this five hundred dollars bonus. Where 778 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 14: would you send me so I can get the most 779 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 14: extravagant bang for my buck. 780 00:37:54,160 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 2: Kiwa would be a lot of fun. It's got a 781 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: couple of great courses there. It's fun and people were 782 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: great when I visited Kiowa. So that's the first one 783 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 2: off top of my head. But good luck with that, Lucas. 784 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: There's a lot of courses. But I mean, you want 785 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 2: to go that you get kind of everything is included. 786 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 2: You don't have to you know, go you don't have 787 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: to have a car and go places. Now, if you 788 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 2: want to go to Pebble. But I don't even think 789 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars will pay for a round at Pebble anymore. 790 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: Fresh in Milwaukee is back, Hi Fresh? What's on your mind? 791 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 15: What's up? 792 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 14: DT? 793 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 15: Well, me and the daughter was watching some WNBA this 794 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 15: weekend and we started bringing up some of the greats. 795 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 15: So could you do me a favor for the people 796 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 15: who may have forgotten or don't know. Could you drop 797 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 15: a little knowledge of the female air Jordan Cynthia Cooper. 798 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 3: Cooper's great. 799 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 2: Nancy Lieberman, Uh, Cheryl Miller. There's way too many, way 800 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: too many, Lisa les Kansas Parker. Yeah, there's way too 801 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 2: many great women who have played basketball. I actually played 802 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: in games with Nancy Lieberman, and she was only a 803 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: woman when it started, because when you started to play, 804 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 2: you forgot all about that. She knew how to play 805 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 2: and wasn't afraid of anybody there. And we're playing against 806 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 2: guys who were on the Dallas Cowboys. 807 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 3: Dion played. We had. 808 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: Ken Norton, he was a linebacker, so you had athletes 809 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 2: on the floor and Nancy she was running the floor? 810 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 5: Man? 811 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 3: Boy? Could she pass seton? 812 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 2: Would you give us a final results of the poll 813 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: questioned Paul. In the meantime, how about this day in 814 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: sports history. 815 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 6: Eighteen eighty three day and the New York Giants baseball 816 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 6: team admitted all ladies free to the ballpark. It was 817 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 6: the first ladies Day. Yeah, I have more of those players. 818 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 6: Nineteen thirty eight, Jimmy Fox of the Red Sox had 819 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 6: was walked six times in a game. That was the record. 820 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 6: Nineteen seventy five, this was a I think we could 821 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 6: say who won this trade? Milwaukee Bucks traded Kareem abdul 822 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 6: Jabar to the Lakers in nineteen seventy and Walt Wesley. 823 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Walt Wesley was thrown in there too. 824 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 2: See two big men go to the Lakers for Elmore Smith, 825 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 2: Brian Winters, Dave Myers, and Junior Bridgeman. Elmore Smith was 826 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 2: a defensive minded center, Brian Winters a great shooter. Dave 827 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 2: Myers was I feel bad. He was kind of known 828 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 2: as Anne Myers brother and was drafted by the Indiana Pacers. 829 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 2: But Dave played at UCLA and a very good player. 830 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: Junior Bridgeman became a billionaire businessman and was a really 831 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: good basketball player just recently passed away. But I would 832 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 2: say the Lakers got the better end of that. 833 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 6: We had a workshop it. 834 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not quite sure, but I'm going 835 00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: to go out on a limb and I'm going to 836 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 2: say I think the Lakers got the better end of that. 837 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 3: Let's go around the room. 838 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 2: If we learned anything, Oh Seaton final results of the 839 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 2: pole question? 840 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Todd's inability to rhyme. Is it deliberate or just 841 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 4: a funny quirk that he is right now? People are 842 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 4: going sixty one percent? Just a funny quirk. It's not 843 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 4: a deliberate bit by him, Todd. Would you learn today? 844 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 3: Aaron Judges currently minus twenty thousand to win the MVP. 845 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 4: Aw Seeden, What did you learn Steve Sanson's stories? 846 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 3: Marvin? You make time for Steve Stands? 847 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 5: I do? 848 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 12: I do? 849 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: Paul? 850 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 6: I still don't know where tight End University. 851 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 3: Is Nashville, Ah, Paul or uh? Todd? What did I 852 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 3: learn today? 853 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 5: We all learned. 854 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 11: You have a tough time believing Desmond Bane is the 855 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 11: missing piece for the Orlando Magic. 856 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 3: Have a great day, everybody. Talk to you tomorrow.