WEBVTT - Ep. 37: Dropping Rhymes For Flying Muskies

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the one and only time when the rebel

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<v Speaker 1>crickhopper will actually catch a fish. Sometimes I'll just stand

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<v Speaker 1>there and get bit by like three pithombs. Don't you

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<v Speaker 1>even dare come at me with fruit? Watermelon in Savina?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was the who who have from the US

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<v Speaker 1>customers agent swept his hands Suman nether Wrove. Good morning,

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<v Speaker 1>degenerate anglers. Welcome to Bent, the fishing podcast that has

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<v Speaker 1>grand ambitions to one day get all its hair and

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<v Speaker 1>makeup sponsorships from great Clips. I'm Joe Surmley A Miles

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<v Speaker 1>Nulty and uh dude, I think we can aim higher

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<v Speaker 1>super cuts all the way and super cut costs only

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<v Speaker 1>six dollars. To believe me, there's no secret. Anyone can

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Don't answer me why they don't. So, just

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<v Speaker 1>to get this straight, I think that that was old

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<v Speaker 1>advertising with the Angler, was that the hair cutting service

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<v Speaker 1>they offered were it requires no skill at all and

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<v Speaker 1>can be performed by anyone, by any human. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what they were going for. That that's

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<v Speaker 1>what bees were for, weren't they It sucks as it cuts, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what do you expect? Man? I mean that the

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<v Speaker 1>haircuts there costs six bucks, which is probably why my

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<v Speaker 1>mom took me to super cuts until I got to

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<v Speaker 1>junior high, at which point I refused to get any

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<v Speaker 1>haircuts at all anymore so I could grow up my

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<v Speaker 1>sweet sweet locks. Yeah, oh yeah, and I'm I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>am fairly certain you were very proud of those locks

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. We just washed the hair well,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked on the hair a long time, and you

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<v Speaker 1>hit it. He hits my hair. I've actually got a

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<v Speaker 1>photo of you with which you sent me from your

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<v Speaker 1>teen years to prove it, and it's hilarious, dud. I

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<v Speaker 1>did send you that. I may regret it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>honestly if that if that picture had anything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with fishing, it would it would probably be our greatest

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<v Speaker 1>awkward photo of all totally totally see I never had

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<v Speaker 1>long hair, but it was bleached blonde for frosted. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. Now, it wasn't frosted. It wasn't frosted like I.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it with the stuff, but I left it

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<v Speaker 1>on way too long, and then you convince yourself like

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<v Speaker 1>it looks cool. This is something like the end of

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<v Speaker 1>my my punk like end of high school. But I see.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sending you any of those photos because I

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<v Speaker 1>know better you're right, because I mean in the photo

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<v Speaker 1>that you sent me, you are wearing a fish hook necklace,

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<v Speaker 1>like a big thick tribal fish hook like I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's also been used on certain Salt Life apparel,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those everybody knows what I'm talking about, or

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<v Speaker 1>it was it has been and and yes I did

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<v Speaker 1>wear one of those four and and you're you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>the bongos shirtless. Yeah, I moved out of the metal

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<v Speaker 1>punk era and I was into a reggae phase. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I did not smoked saying whatever you just play,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a real reggae that's like I I was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to like Jimmy Cliff and that's like poser don't

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<v Speaker 1>count right exactly. But anyway, look regardless, I will make

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<v Speaker 1>sure to post that photo up on Instagram today so

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<v Speaker 1>everyone can bask in your eighteen year old glory. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the meantime, a big announcement today. Listen up, Bent

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<v Speaker 1>has got a great new friend. It's sure we do.

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast is brought to you by the number thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Got the number thirteen tattude on my neck. Ah see. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>while I appreciate the reference there and that was spot on,

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer the Danzig version. So that's on Monday. Danzig

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<v Speaker 1>over over cash. You're going over cash? Seriously, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Danzig does does Elvis better than Elvis too in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Look that one I cannot I serious, They cannot disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with you more than I do. But it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the point. The point I'm trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>is that we're proud to announce that we've teamed up

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<v Speaker 1>with thirteen Fishing to bring all of you this show

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<v Speaker 1>every single week. Yes, and I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you already know thirteen. They make fine rods, reels, and

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<v Speaker 1>baits for degenerate anglers, whether you embrace the underappreciated genius

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<v Speaker 1>of Dan Zigg or follow the conformists Hollywood polished Joaquin

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix style of music and fishing. Thank you for working

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<v Speaker 1>worst insult into that conformist dude, conformist conformist. But thirteen Fishing, however,

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<v Speaker 1>B Side Fishing is Live, Coming in hot from the

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<v Speaker 1>swamps of Jersey. Yeah, that's true. We did get kind

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<v Speaker 1>of swampy this week, but last week I did a

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<v Speaker 1>little Key West chart trip without ever leaving the confines

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<v Speaker 1>of my home state of Jersey. So I hope nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>if you still haven't seen that, like, get with it, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll tell you what. I asked some thirteen spinning

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<v Speaker 1>rods to take on fish. They were probably not designed

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<v Speaker 1>to handle in that episode, but I mean they crushed it.

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<v Speaker 1>They held up very nicely. Anyway, You're gonna be seeing

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<v Speaker 1>and hearing from thirteen regularly, and we could not be happier,

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<v Speaker 1>truly to be working with them. I've actually been fishing

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of their stuff since last summer, Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have asked me about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've told them all it has been kicking some serious

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<v Speaker 1>ass like stuff likewise, I've had, I've been doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same and it's it's performed really really well. Yep yep.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Cash Danzig debate actually reminds me of something

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<v Speaker 1>you brought up a few episodes ago. Um. In the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the line, you did about the pistol peat.

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<v Speaker 1>You talked about how how fly fishing went from being

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<v Speaker 1>something that that many anglers did because it was the

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<v Speaker 1>most effective way to fish small lords to a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like countercultural rebellious statement in the seventies and eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>to and elite a status symbol in the nineties and

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, And that got me thinking about fishing sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like more broadly, what what does identifying as an

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<v Speaker 1>angler mean? In like, what are the cultural stereotypes about

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<v Speaker 1>fishing these days? I don't know. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>I answer to that. I feel like I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>on a gut level, I feel like fishing is getting

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<v Speaker 1>younger and in some ways cooler than when we were kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But it's like, I don't have anything to

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<v Speaker 1>back that up. It's it's it's pretty much anecdotal. Like

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<v Speaker 1>high school and college bass fishing clubs and tournaments seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be everywhere in the last few years and growing

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<v Speaker 1>really fast. And then and then you got all the

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<v Speaker 1>short films with lots of dubstep drops that have made

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<v Speaker 1>fishing seem more exciting than than the days when it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh, I go out and get sunburned,

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<v Speaker 1>with Grandpa and watch a bobber Like. They're the representations

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<v Speaker 1>I see of it make are are definitely trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make it cooler, but that might just be me projecting

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<v Speaker 1>and feeling hopeful, right because you know, you really hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>thought about until right now, but you really don't see

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<v Speaker 1>fishing in mainstream media like you know, we we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in other places in our company, how help hunting

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<v Speaker 1>has portrayed in mainstream media. But I'm struggling to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with examples of of of fishing, right, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>usually how I gauge social attitudes by anything like how

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<v Speaker 1>how's it looking a major movie or or or on

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show? And I can't think of like has

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<v Speaker 1>there been a major movie about fishing since Grumpy Old Men?

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<v Speaker 1>Has that even happened? Oh? Several gone fishing with Joy Glover? Okay, movies, people, Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>did you have you watched that movie? No? Nor did

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<v Speaker 1>I see two thousand eights Bait Shop with that redneck

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<v Speaker 1>comic dude, here's your sign and Miley Cyrus's dad O. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're making my boy. Though I could see those either,

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<v Speaker 1>so those don't count. Now, you're right, You're right, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>and how particular activities are represented in movies are on

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows. It's sort of like the ultimate, like litmus

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<v Speaker 1>test of how our society views those activities and the

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<v Speaker 1>people who partaking them. So fishing's absence, I guess from

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<v Speaker 1>the greater media landscape is telling me at least. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm not totally sure what that's saying. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know either. I don't know either. I think

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<v Speaker 1>like you could look at it as a positive thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You could say that the fact that you don't see

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<v Speaker 1>fishing splashed around mainstream media is good because we get

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<v Speaker 1>to self define at least to some extent, or instead

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<v Speaker 1>of being pigeonholed is like the redneck thing or the

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<v Speaker 1>elitist thing, or the counterculture thing. I don't know. We're

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<v Speaker 1>we're figuring that we get to figure out what that

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<v Speaker 1>is for ourselves as our own culture. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a It's an interesting question, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>leads me to wonder because I genuinely don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>is what is the broader cultural attitude about fishing and

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<v Speaker 1>anglers right now? And I feel like I'm too close

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<v Speaker 1>to it to answer it, right, I I I just

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<v Speaker 1>know such a broad spectrum of people who identify as anglers.

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<v Speaker 1>And for example, one one good example would be our

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<v Speaker 1>friend river Horse. Yeah, he defies he kind of defies

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<v Speaker 1>simple classification. Um but I did. I've said for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time now I really hope he gets his own

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<v Speaker 1>TV show one. Oh, me too, me too? Imagine I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine. It would be like Oh, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be like a much more serious version of fishing with John,

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<v Speaker 1>which I would love to see. But if that does

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<v Speaker 1>ever happen, he'll probably get, you know, too big to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with us. So we better better enjoy our

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<v Speaker 1>time with river Horse while we can, and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>get ourselves some sagely wisdom about long hair, fishing rods

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<v Speaker 1>and international travel. Hey, now, this is river Horse coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you with some sagely wisdom. You remember the days

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<v Speaker 1>when the passport was in your hand and you're heading

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<v Speaker 1>out of that country to stick him? Well, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a little story called strange customs, And don't

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<v Speaker 1>you or those days will be back soon. Legs are

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<v Speaker 1>spread for the umpteenth time. There is nothing better to

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<v Speaker 1>dim the postcoit after global road trip than an airport

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<v Speaker 1>cop song and dance random my ass. This is a shakedown,

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<v Speaker 1>That's all there is to it. I had warned the

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<v Speaker 1>guys not to stand anywhere near me because it happens

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<v Speaker 1>every time. They had already made it through, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>watching in the wings, laughing their asses off. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was the woo who held. When the US Customs agent

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<v Speaker 1>swept his hands through my another world, his cheeks turned

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<v Speaker 1>to light crimson, and then he got piste. Not funny,

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<v Speaker 1>it was to me. For some reason. Airport cops love

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<v Speaker 1>fly rods and surfboards. Having hair from my trucker cap

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<v Speaker 1>to my tailbone is the kicker. It gives permission for

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<v Speaker 1>individual screenings, pat downs, rub downs, and plenty of questions

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<v Speaker 1>in an airport these days. Long hair is the gift

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<v Speaker 1>that keeps on give it. When you call an airport

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<v Speaker 1>cop on the carpet for yet another game of cat

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<v Speaker 1>and very innocent mouse, they turned down right sheepish. You know, Salvador,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a traffic light security device that you must

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to pass through. Green means go fish, red, forget it,

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<v Speaker 1>strip search. I've attempted to get through that damn light

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<v Speaker 1>eight times and got red every time, eight for eight

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<v Speaker 1>I see your feet stepping on the switch that triggers

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<v Speaker 1>a light. I told the airport cop in Spanish. He

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<v Speaker 1>looked away fast, with a grin on his face. And

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<v Speaker 1>now here in the Caribbean. The security agent looks down

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<v Speaker 1>the barrel of every single one of my eight weights.

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<v Speaker 1>He takes the rods out, shakes the tube. I see

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<v Speaker 1>the ever sparkling shimmer and shine of the Caribbean sunlight

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<v Speaker 1>streaming through the windows. I hold my arms wide for

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<v Speaker 1>another pat down. Oh shit, he finds the secret stash

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<v Speaker 1>in the breast pocket of my coat. He's got me

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<v Speaker 1>a peanut butter and strawberry jam sandwich. The backpack has

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<v Speaker 1>been ransacked and rifled through. I've been asked my mother's

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<v Speaker 1>maiden name, the city in which I was born. Even

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<v Speaker 1>the reels have a few feet are lines stripped up

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<v Speaker 1>before they are placed back in the gray band. Let alone.

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<v Speaker 1>The long discussion about what is a river horse? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not worried about it. I have nothing to hide.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always run clean and wild my entire life, never

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to dim the light. If you can't find yourself

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<v Speaker 1>higher than a kite from simply being on the water,

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<v Speaker 1>then you are beyond lost. By the time I catch

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<v Speaker 1>up to the rest of the guys, they already have

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<v Speaker 1>a beer waiting on the counter for me. It tastes delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>It tastes like freedom. I hope you enjoyed our little

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<v Speaker 1>Sage the Wisdom's story today. And remember, I know times

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<v Speaker 1>they're a little funky right now, but this world needs

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<v Speaker 1>us to take care of each other, be there for

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<v Speaker 1>each other. There are wonderful days ahead. And we all

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<v Speaker 1>know that fly fishermen and women and especially tree hugger

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<v Speaker 1>hippie jerkey viking Texans never get profile at the airport. Nah. So, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>did you read his article The Darkest Web? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the one about the illegal fishing scene in the Gulf

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<v Speaker 1>of Mexico. Word Like straps on a kevlar vest and

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<v Speaker 1>impends himself with the Texas game boardens trying to chase

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<v Speaker 1>down the illegal commercial fish. I devoured that article, man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was truly one of the best pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of fish journalism I've read in a long time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of depressing, right, but it's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so well written and just so engaging, such an awesome piece.

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<v Speaker 1>The scene with the shark fins. Yeah, anyway, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>read it. You gotta read it. It's free. Google the

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<v Speaker 1>Darkest Web river Horse You'll find it. It's worth ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of your time, especially if you like river horses style,

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<v Speaker 1>which we do. He's unapologetically freaky, and he's proud of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he is, and judging by some of the submissions

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<v Speaker 1>we get, so are many of you. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>highlight one particular individual who lets his freak flag fly

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<v Speaker 1>high in this week's Awkward Moment in Angling. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the show where we break down fishing

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<v Speaker 1>photos sent in by you listeners, because really, other than

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<v Speaker 1>like Christmas cards or or senior pictures, what genre of

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<v Speaker 1>photography is more ripe for ridicule than fish picks? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>to take a picture a lave. I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever found myself wondering what a fish fly freak might

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<v Speaker 1>look like, or even contemplating that such a creature might exist.

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<v Speaker 1>But once listener Andrew Patorski send us an email titled

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<v Speaker 1>Lake St. Clair Phish Fly Freak Award photo, I became

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<v Speaker 1>immediately curious, like, what's what's the fish fly? How exactly

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<v Speaker 1>does it get freaky out. I don't know. I can

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<v Speaker 1>answer the first part of the question because in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>uh fish fly is a common name for Hexa Genium

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<v Speaker 1>may flies. The hecks, which are okay, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>hecks which are large, Yeah, which are large insects that

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<v Speaker 1>emerge from the lakes and rivers of the Upper Midwest

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<v Speaker 1>every summer, sometimes in just insanely massive numbers. And the

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<v Speaker 1>swarms they're sometimes so huge they show up on weather

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<v Speaker 1>radar like a snowstorm, so thick that they can cover

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<v Speaker 1>streets and cause traffic to slide off the road. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not now, I know what we're talking about. So like

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<v Speaker 1>for for fish and anglers, both the hecks are there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're kind of a big deal, very much there there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're these inch long bugs that live most of their

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<v Speaker 1>lives burrowed in the substrate of lakes, ponds and slow

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<v Speaker 1>moving rivers where when they're when they're down in there,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're pretty safe from predators. But when the conditions

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<v Speaker 1>get just right, all the bugs at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>swim to the surface right around dusk, they sprout wings,

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<v Speaker 1>they hatch out of the water. They mate mid air

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<v Speaker 1>in these massive swarms and then lay their eggs back

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<v Speaker 1>in the water and die. And that whole process takes

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<v Speaker 1>less than two days, and during that window, birds and

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<v Speaker 1>dragonflies and especially fish feast on all that easily available protein. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hence the reason people call them fish flies in certain

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<v Speaker 1>areas because yeah, and I actually was once told, um

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was lake walleye guys in Michigan or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Wisconsin. I don't know, but they coined that term

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<v Speaker 1>fish flies because they'd be like, we ain't catching any

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<v Speaker 1>wally eyes right now because of them damn fish fly,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they didn't know what hexagenia was, you know. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And the whole thing is a nighttime game because, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, these bugs are nocturnal, so that's when the

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<v Speaker 1>fish eat them. And then what happens is theoretically they

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<v Speaker 1>eat them all night long, so they're full the next

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<v Speaker 1>day and don't eat anything, so the walleye guys get

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<v Speaker 1>up and can't catch walleye because they're full. And the

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<v Speaker 1>hex hatch is one of the best times a year

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<v Speaker 1>to get a crack at a really huge brown right

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<v Speaker 1>on a drive month the kind of fish that are

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<v Speaker 1>usually hidden and really wary. It's kind of why it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a big deal in Michigan because you have those

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<v Speaker 1>tight streams of all that deadfall. Those fish are tucked

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<v Speaker 1>in throughout the day. Um, but they'll they'll come out

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<v Speaker 1>and and feed aggressively when those bugs emerge, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're best known to trout fishermen, but just about every

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<v Speaker 1>fish will eat them, including panfish, like I said, Wally

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<v Speaker 1>um and bass. So that answers the first part of

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<v Speaker 1>the question. We know what a fish fly is now,

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<v Speaker 1>But to answer the second part, what's a what is

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<v Speaker 1>a fish fly freak? Which I have a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>saying fish fly? It does it doesn't grow right off

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<v Speaker 1>the tongue. But to answer that, we got to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the photo right And now I'm gonna start by

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<v Speaker 1>by setting the scene. It's nighttime and the freak in

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<v Speaker 1>question is standing in front of a railing with a

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<v Speaker 1>body of water in the background. He's well lit from

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<v Speaker 1>above and all that seems to indicate that he's standing

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<v Speaker 1>under a large floodlight and dock fishing, and it seems

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<v Speaker 1>he's having at least a little success. Right He's holding

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<v Speaker 1>a very average large mouth in the standard large mouth

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<v Speaker 1>lip grip. But I can't really tell I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>tell how he's feeling about the catcher anything else, because

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<v Speaker 1>his his face is completely obscured. Yes, and by obscured

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<v Speaker 1>you mean covered completely top to bottom by fish flies.

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<v Speaker 1>Right in this photo like Andrew has no eyes, no mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>no no. It is something out of a horror movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Mothman prophecies comes to mind, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if there's actually a scene like that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's just what pops in there. Anyway. There's just

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<v Speaker 1>one little slice of cheek showing, but that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest is almost entirely hex may flies. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>just about every exposed surface in the photo is covered

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<v Speaker 1>in bugs, except the fish itself, which is strangely clean.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't quite get that. Um, But even the background

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<v Speaker 1>is just a blur of flying insects. The only physical

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<v Speaker 1>attribute of Andrew that we can really make out is

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<v Speaker 1>his beard, which isn't truly it's impressive. It's some impressive

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<v Speaker 1>facial hair. Um. It appears to at least be a

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<v Speaker 1>foot long, and and and amazon only in jungle thick

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a particular image however, right it also seems

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<v Speaker 1>to have become like a tangled breeding ground for these

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<v Speaker 1>these giant bugs making sweet love and his beard. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they really, they're just all over it. The photo alone,

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<v Speaker 1>just the photo by itself is fantastic, right, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>not even making fun of it. It's just a it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a great photo. But I think I think the

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<v Speaker 1>backstory that Andrew sentis in an email just gives the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing another layer that I appreciate. He wrote, a

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<v Speaker 1>hex hatch like this up in northern Michigan is what

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<v Speaker 1>dreams are made of when you're going after trout, But

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<v Speaker 1>fishing for warm water species with conventional gear during a

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<v Speaker 1>hatch like this on Lake St. Clair can be a

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<v Speaker 1>nightmare because the fish aren't hungry. At that time of

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<v Speaker 1>my life, the only time I could get together with

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<v Speaker 1>buddies to fish was during the evening, which happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be when the fish flies, what we call these may

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<v Speaker 1>flies in the area, hatch and become incredibly dense. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's extremely tough to catch anything during crazy hatch like

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<v Speaker 1>this on the lake, but I noticed a weird pocket

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<v Speaker 1>of fish fly carcasses that collected under a particular light post.

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<v Speaker 1>Bass and bluegill would occasionally rise to engulf mouthfuls of

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<v Speaker 1>the spinners, and so I ended up tossing an unwaited

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<v Speaker 1>single tail grub green pumpkin zoom fat albert into that

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<v Speaker 1>pile and caught this small largie. Andrew also noted that

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<v Speaker 1>that he does like to fly fish, and he does

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<v Speaker 1>target trout, which really just dials up the irony of

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<v Speaker 1>this particular photo. Yeah. As I say, once you once

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<v Speaker 1>you get that context, I think the picture goes from

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<v Speaker 1>just being odd to legitimately being funny. Because there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>poor dude in the middle of one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>famous hatches in fishing, one that's known for bringing giant

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<v Speaker 1>and elusive browns to hand, and he's holding the dinker

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<v Speaker 1>bass and fishing with a green pumpkins soft plastic. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing, the only thing that would make it funnier

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<v Speaker 1>and more ironic, is if he had like a push

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<v Speaker 1>button reel, like a push button now fit, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he was using. Um So, I mean, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see his face, I can imagine it, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Yep, yep, I've got a prettyular

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<v Speaker 1>deal what might be going on behind all those bugs

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<v Speaker 1>and beard uh And if you out there want to

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<v Speaker 1>see what the fish fly freak actually looks like. Check

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<v Speaker 1>out Joe on my Instagram pages at Joe Sormelli onety

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<v Speaker 1>eight and at water Miles. Yeah, and if you have

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<v Speaker 1>an awkward fishing photo you think is worthy of getting

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<v Speaker 1>picked apart on this show, send it please to Bent

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<v Speaker 1>at the meat Eater dot com. I've never actually experienced

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<v Speaker 1>the Hex hatch in my life. Yeah. Yeah, I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to say it, but but me either. Man. I I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've interviewed, No, I haven't. I've I've mouse fished in

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<v Speaker 1>Hex territory later in the summer, but I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>there up in Michigan or anything for for the hecks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've interviewed tons of guides about it. I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>written articles based on their info, but I've never actually

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<v Speaker 1>gotten there myself. And I love I love night fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>You think I would know, I haven't picked it. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like something you would go do. I so, having

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<v Speaker 1>never done it, I assume that it's like the salmon

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<v Speaker 1>fly hatch out here, meaning it's cool, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>also overrated, And by that I mean it's there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much hype right that there's no way that it can

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<v Speaker 1>ever live up to the expectations. A good example, you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, you've written about it, You've interviewed people about it,

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<v Speaker 1>You've talked and talked and talked and talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>All these Markie hatches get all that attention and and

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<v Speaker 1>so when people think they're gonna go do it, they

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<v Speaker 1>expect it to be the greatest experience, like this transcendent

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<v Speaker 1>fishing experience. And yeah, there are lots of giant bugs,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, just about everything eats them. But like Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>explained his email, there's so much food available in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of those events that a lot of times the

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<v Speaker 1>fisher just gorged and they're full, and they're not that

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<v Speaker 1>easy to catch. So you get the hatch, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily catch the fish. Yeah, and like you really

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<v Speaker 1>hit the nail on the head there. It's it's I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to fish a hex hatch, right, But it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like like an insane bucket list item for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I look at it like if I get there,

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<v Speaker 1>someday I get there, and that would be cool. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But you make a good point. I feel the same

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<v Speaker 1>way when you when you interview people for these stories,

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<v Speaker 1>you're hearing about it. Like in its most glorious form,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then if you like, I know people who

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<v Speaker 1>have gone to fish the hex hatch and they catch

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<v Speaker 1>one trout in four nights of doing it. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing with like the cape cod canal

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<v Speaker 1>come up here and crushing. But I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people who make that drive and catch two. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to um, but I don't know. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it is overrated. I'll tell you what's not overrated, though,

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<v Speaker 1>fish news. Fish news. That escalated quickly. Alright, So no

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<v Speaker 1>particular direct shout outs for me this week, although I

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<v Speaker 1>do hope you guys enjoyed the second installment of b

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>side Fishing this week, Little pickerel fishing in the Rockets

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<v Speaker 1>South it's not yeah down in the South Jersey pine barrens,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think the bigger message of that one was

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<v Speaker 1>proving um, as I said in the video, a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, there is not an olive garden or pizzeria

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<v Speaker 1>uno on every piece of open land in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of New Jersey. I thought the takeaway was was don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't show your friend your spots because they're gonna they're

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 1>gonna out fish you. I missed the point. I did

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<v Speaker 1>get crushed, but look, I'm about keeping it real and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I did not fake it. I got I

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<v Speaker 1>got my ass handed to me on the fish front.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hope you guys enjoyed that. Well. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>we actually we made some we pickled pickroll in that episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which I gotta tell you it was delicious. That was

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<v Speaker 1>new to me and I thought it was terrific, which

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of a play on episode one um where

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>we made cevich a and just browsing through through comments

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>on the first episode, most of which were great and

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 1>very positive. There was one dude, though, who just hammered

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>me from my cevich a and was like, don't you

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>even dare come at me with fruit, watermelon and cevich

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 1>a And he's talking about beef bullion cubes or some

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>weird ship. So I'll look it up. I'll try it

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>your way. You didn't have to be so rude about it.

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>But apparently I don't know cevich a. Look, I've never

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I've had for my bea before, but I've never had watermelons.

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>So but I'm not saying it won't work. I don't

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>know you're putting you're putting citrus juice. In there. You

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>can't tell me there's no fruit in cevich a when

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>like one of the main ingredients is citrus juice. So

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly. And there was also a dude to who commented,

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>He was like, can anyone confirm that watermelon is good

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:21.719
<v Speaker 1>in Cevicha? And I got in there and I was like, well,

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I can confirm it, but I guess I don't really count,

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 1>so do I can? Trust me? Trust me? Keep watching

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0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's all the housekeeping, which brings us

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>to the reason why we're here doing some fish News.

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>As a reminder, this is a competition. Joe and I

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>do not know what stories the other one is bringing

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 1>to the table, and we are competing for the affection,

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the respect, the love. Dare I say of our are

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>brilliant and successful engineer Phil who will at the end

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 1>of this determine who is the winner and who is

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 1>going to cry just like Joe did at the end

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>of that PICTUREL episode. This this week Joe gets to

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 1>start it off. And uh, and so I will see

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the floor to you, sir, well, yeah, so maybe this

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>is some future B side fighter. I don't know. For

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of you, this won't be news. And I

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>know this because you're d m ng me incessantly about it.

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>But in case you live near me and the southeastern

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania region and are not aware, we're having a brood

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<v Speaker 1>x cicada hatch this year, per science, it will be

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>exactly and uh, right now, there are dozens, maybe hundreds

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>of you tugging at your brewed x TCH just got

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 1>brud x x brune. So you might have also noticed that,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>like on Insta and YouTube, right now, all the tires

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>are carving foam and stacking hair and preparation of this event,

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and so we're clear, I'm not I'm not making fun

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>of the hatch because I'm told it's it's something to behold.

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I've never experienced it personally. I just love the anticipation

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>and the name brewed X. I find so perfectly like

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>bro bra even though they aren't the people that named it,

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Um, it sounds like kind

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of like an energy drink. Anyway, It's a fascinating deal though,

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and there was a big story about it on the

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>website of CBS Pittsburgh. This is from the story. The

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>bugs have been lurking beneath the surface since two thousand four,

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>feeding on sap from the roots of plants, according to

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Michael J. Rob Emeritus Professor of entomology at the University

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>of Maryland. Once they're mature, the big brood will emerge

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>in fifteen states, where they'll spend two to four weeks

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>in late Man early June, courting, mating, flying, driving people crazy,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>being eaten by everything, including humans. Like so apparently this

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>dude actually eats He eats the cicadas as much as

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the fish. So these things have been underground here since

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>two thousand four, and they only hatch once every seventeen years.

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>And like I said, well I've never experienced it. I've

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>seen plenty of video and it's nuts, particularly if you

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>like to fly fish for carp I'm sure you've seen

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>some of those videos kicking around. Um, yeah, yeah, because

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>they I mean, they get stupid on them and even

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>though a carp might pass up a loan bug at

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a different time of year, they get so keyed into

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>this insane amount of protein on the surface they go ballistic.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>And what I think is cool about this hatch is

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's not really trout centric, you know. I mean, like,

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>sure you can catch a big old wild brown during

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the brewed X hatch, but this is like the bass

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>fly guys hatch, and it's essentially it's like a popper hatch,

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the trout dudes are always trying to

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>go dainty to match olives and all this stuff, and

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 1>like you want a cicada fly at a splat and

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>then you can literally chug it across the surface still water,

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>moving water doesn't matter, and that's just badass. So um,

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like the ultimate terrestrial hatch. And they interviewed George

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Daniel in the piece. I don't know if you know

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>George at all or no of George Daniel, but he's

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>an East Coast guy, great guy, written a lot of books,

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>very knowledgeable angler, and he had some interesting stuff to

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>say about this hatch. And as I mentioned, whenever Breudex

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>pops up anywhere in the country, you see people pimping

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>these incredibly elaborate patterns, beautifully carved and stacked foam. It's

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>all like a POxy eat over and shiny, with mesh

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>wings and big bug eyes and spun hair in the works.

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And George is basically like, yeah, but when it's on,

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna lose a lot of bugs and break

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>off big carp and stuff, So be practical. And they

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>linked to a video that he put together where he

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>recommends three patterns, one of which is just a chubby chernobyl,

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like no big deal, just practical chubby chernobyl, and then

0:30:56.280 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>one is just essentially a larger version and of a

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>very simple foam beetle, and the last one plays off

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>that and he actually puts um some lead wraps on

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the shank because he says, often a cicada riding just

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>under the surface gets a bit faster, especially in the

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>peak of the hatch, when you have lots of people

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>out there slapping down these big bugs. So I thought

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>that was just a very practical approach, Like it's sort

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>of like, I know, we try to get all artistic

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>with these crazy cicada bugs. But you know, he makes

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>a good point. You're hooking a lot of big fish

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>tie simple bugs, and I'm excited about this too. However,

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I think the one aspect people don't consider is that,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>like with with many hatches, this is often like a

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.239
<v Speaker 1>drop everything and go deal, you know what I mean.

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Like the best case scenario is that you live a

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>stone's throw from from good Carpi or Bassi water and

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>can just haul ass to get there. Um because even

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>in the story they know that it takes time because

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's not really on until they're mating and dying,

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and it can be gonzo for weeks or days you

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>just don't know. But um, like many hatches, it's just

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>really hard and nail. Uh. They can't just be in

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the trees, like you'll hear him in the trees. You

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>know that's a good sign, But they got to be

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>in the water. So you gotta hit it just right.

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>And I hope all of you that want that action

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>get it. I'd love to. I'd love to say I'm

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna make an effort, but with my schedule, like it'll

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>be July in ten minutes and I'll never have gotten there,

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>or I'll get the call that it's on right now

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>this minute, um, which likely will not do me any good.

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>But you know, a boy can dream, so good luck everybody.

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Brewd X in the Eastern p a reagion. This fits

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>because we were just talking about this literally the last

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>segment when we're talking about the heckx hatch YEP with

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>with the awkward moments that we just did, and like

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I just said, I am skeptical of these super hyped hatches,

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think it fits into that. You know, like

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>people are talking about it all out so it could

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>be great, and if you happen to be there on

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>the days, that's great. I'm sure it's a ton of fun.

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>But the idea of chasing a hatch, to me, my

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:02.479
<v Speaker 1>my advice to everybody out there is don't do it. Yeah, well,

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what people have in their heads.

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>This is so hyped in the news and fishermen are

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about it and the tires are talking about it

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that it's like for a month straight every day, all

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the water is just gonna be blanketed with these things,

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and the fish are gonna be going absolutely ballistic. And

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's the way it goes down, you

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I think there's a couple of

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>windows within the span of when they're going. And if

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you're there, you're there. And if you've got cicada flies,

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>good for you. But you know, you probably need to

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of time to devote to get out

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>there to do it. What I want to know, and

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>here's what I hope you'll find out for me, is

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>this the one and only time when the rebel crickhopper

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>will actually catch a fish that was so well played,

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>that was so well played and tried and tried. I

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>want to believe I've done the diving model, I've done

0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the popper model. It has just never been Now somebody

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>ever like they are, they are drafting the piste off

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>email right now. I'd be pissed off of me. I've

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>never seen one catch a fish ever, somebody must catch

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>something with him. They've been making him for forty years. Yes,

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess they do. I don't know, but but probably

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>that would actually probably be a good you know what,

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't have time to tie cicada flies. I will

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>throw one crip copper popper in my fly box and

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>send it on a seven way if I just happened

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 1>to be there. Guarantee, just please do because I would

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>love to see that happen. I'm gonna move from from

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 1>big bugs to big fish with this story. On April,

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Captain Justin Drummond and angler Troy Lancaster, along with a

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>whole crew, broke the Texas state bluefin tuna record with

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a fish that was officially weighed at eight hundred and

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy six pounds. Well that's a big in the sixty

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>ft qualified which the name of the boat left Port

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>or Ansis with basically just going out on on an

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>off shore trip. They had they had a window of

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.959
<v Speaker 1>good weather for a couple of days, so they wanted

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>to go way off shore and and target. I mean really,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 1>it was a group of guys who've done this trip

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>together a lot of years running, and they usually get

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 1>into marlin, and they get into yellow fin, and there's

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>a chance at bluefin. But it wasn't like they were

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>out there like I'm going for a giant bluefin. That

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.439
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the goal. They were just going off shore because

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>they had a weather window and they figured it'd be good.

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>But the bluefin do show up in the Gulf every spring,

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>they're there, and and so they these guys went out.

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>They went on a on a big run. Uh, went

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>all the way out to the open ocean rigs. The

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>qualified ran I think a hundred and fifty miles. That

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, I was gonna say, because I know they're

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>in the Gulf, but you hear about them more out

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>of western Florida and Louisiana, Like you don't hear much

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>about Texas boats running into him. So well, boys and

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>then boys and went for they did. They did. They

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:04.439
<v Speaker 1>went a long ways up and I guess I guess

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 1>they actually stopped somewhere along the line at a drop earlier,

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't get anything, kept going through the night, got out

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:13.240
<v Speaker 1>of a hundred fifty miles, set up, got going before dawn,

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and and it was kind of on like as soon

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:19.399
<v Speaker 1>as they started fishing, they caught some skip jack for bait,

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and like right off the bat just got into big bites. Uh.

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>They had three big bites. Right off the bat. They

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>broke off one blue marlin that they saw jump right

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>behind the boat, that they estimated about five hundred pounds.

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>And then just after nine am they had another blow

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>up and they didn't see it, but this thing just

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>dug and they knew it was something something big. Can

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I ask, are they trolling like trolling live skip Jack?

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that what they're doing? Okay? Okay? And that that

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>turned out to be a massive tuna. Now, when it

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>comes to fighting tuna, Hemingway. Hemingway once wrote about tuna

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:57.240
<v Speaker 1>fishing for the Toronto Star Weekly, and this is a quote.

0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 1>Hemingway said, it is a back sickening, sinew straining, man

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>size job, even with a rod that looks like a

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 1>hoe handle. But if you land a big tuna after

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.919
<v Speaker 1>a six hour fight, fight him man against fish until

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 1>your muscles are nauseated with the unceasing strain, and finally

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>bring him up alongside the boat Blue green and Silver

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>in the lazy ocean. You will be purified and you

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>will be able to enter unabashed into the presence of

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the very elder gods, and they will make you welcome

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Now that doesn't describe say what you will about hemmingway,

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 1>my friend. But if that's not like a passage about

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>fighting a big tuna, maybe the best one ever written.

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. I have caught a

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of blue fen and I've never felt quite that way.

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>That was beautiful. I'm just like, I'm sorry, Give me

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 1>a beer, Jason, get me a beer. And in the

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>way of that, I don't. I'm not totally sure what

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>level of enlightenment. Troy Lancaster, the the angler, achieved after

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>fighting his record fish, but his fight did not go

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>on for six hours. It went on for nine hours,

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and just after six pm the crew had the fish

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>landed and began the long run back to port A,

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>where the way Master was waiting when they arrived well

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>after midnight. Now, breaking the Texas bluefin record seems to

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 1>be a trend, because last April, a crew out of

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Galveston landed an eight pounder, which would have beaten the

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 1>pound record set hadn't been weighed on a certified scale. Unfortunately,

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 1>there's some some issues with that one last year and

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 1>it was thrown out. This most recent catch, however, will

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>stand beating the previous mark by nearly seventy pounds, and

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.959
<v Speaker 1>that's it's a remarkable fish, it's a it's a great fish.

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>But breaking the state record two years running strikes me

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>as even more newsworthy than the fish itself, because it

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>it hints at a broader story around this fishery in

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>these fish. Atlantic bluefin have been the poster child for

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 1>over fishing for like my whole life. Right, they're massive, right,

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>So they're they're they're they're huge size. And the dramatic

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>population decline that we witnessed, combined with the astronomical and

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of ridiculous price that prime bluefin can fetch at auction,

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>has made them this this obvious focal point, this sort

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of media frenzy in discussions about over fishing. Yeah, that's

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 1>sort of what they've become. If you're gonna talk about

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>over fishing, you think of Atlantic bluefin. And there's a

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>reason for that. In the seventies and the eighties, atlantic

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>bluefin stocks dropped by an estimated and so in the nineties,

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:51.320
<v Speaker 1>two organizations with just ridiculously long names, the North American

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Oceanic and Atmospheric Association and the International Commission for the

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Conservation of Atlantic Tunas teamed up to oversee one of

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the most comp hends of fisheries management strategies on the planet.

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>It included a variety of standard tools like seasonal closures

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and strict retention limits, but it also came up with

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>some unique strategies, like the individual bluefin tuna Quota program,

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>which created economic incentives for commercial fishermen to minimize bluefin bycatch.

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>NOAH also enacted longline gear restrictions in the Gulf of Mexico,

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the curtailed bluefin by catch by sev Now all that

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 1>effort actually paid off. Bluefin stocks increased every year from

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand four to two thousand and seventeen. That year,

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>it CAT released a report recommending an increase in Western

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Atlantic bluefin harvest quotas. In two thousand nineteen, the total

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>bluefin biomass for this population had increased by six percent

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>from its lowest point, and no released a statement declaring

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that US caught Atlantic bluefin tuna was now a sustainable

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 1>food choice. Unfortunately, in the wake of the increased quotas

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and relaxed regulations over the past three years, those stock

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:10.479
<v Speaker 1>numbers look like they might be starting to dip again.

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>One study estimates that Atlantic bluefin stocks have fallen by

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>nearly thirty since two thousand seventeen. All this is to

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>say that bluefin aren't like the third rail totally unsustainable

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>fishery that they once were. There actually a positive recovery

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>story despite what most people know, but like it's still

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>tenuous and their futures is uncertain. Western Atlantic bluefin migrate

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 1>from the Gulf of Mexico all the way up past you,

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 1>up the eastern seaboard to Canada. So the big fish

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that are kind of famous around Newfoundland are the exact

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>same ones caught off the coast of Texas. Ye bluefin

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>spawn in the Gulf and then head north to challenge

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>harring and mackerel and all the other food fish you

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>guys have out there. The fact that the Texas record

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>has been broken two years in rows rights me as

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:04.320
<v Speaker 1>a testament to the success of decades of recovery efforts.

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Regardless of where we are right now, these big spawning

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>size fish take decades to grow, so the one that

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Lancaster caught was allowed to reach that size in large

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 1>part due to intense and impressive bluefin management. The recreational

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>harvest quota in the Gulf is is just a few

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds every year, So once four or five big

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>fish get caught, the whole season just shuts down from

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Florida all the way to Texas. Yep, yep. It's like

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like a rolling target. Yeah, yep. According to an

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>interview that Troy Lancaster did the Angler did with with

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>our own buddy Sam Longren, Lancaster didn't have a choice

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.959
<v Speaker 1>about whether or not he should harvest that particular fish.

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>During the fight, it got tail wrapped right, like the

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>tail wrapped up in the line, and tuna can't breathe

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>unless they're swimming forward, so once it got tangled, it's suffocated.

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And unlike other some other kinds of fish anyway, tuna

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.399
<v Speaker 1>aren't buoyant. So for the last two hours of that fight,

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Lancaster was just lifting dead weight from a thousand feet down, Like, yeah,

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:09.959
<v Speaker 1>I heard the story on this. They would they would

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>have to. They had the drag on that real maxed

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:15.280
<v Speaker 1>out at fifty pounds, and they'd run the boat forward

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.879
<v Speaker 1>to lift the fish up a little and then back

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>down on it as fast as they could and like

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 1>cranking a little bit of line and then run forward

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and then back down. It sounds just brutal awful, just

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 1>almost worse than fighting it the right way, right way forward,

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:35.839
<v Speaker 1>way worse. And then nine hours, like seven hour normal fight,

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>two hours of lifting dead weight, they finally get it

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to the transom. It took another hour and a half

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>to actually drag the thing on board. Uh quote from

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Lancaster here, we had seven guys on board, and one

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>of them wasn't worth a ship and that was me

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>because the dude had just been fighting this fish for

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>nine hour. I appreciate that. I'm always really fascinated by

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 1>big bluefin caught in the golf. It's one of those

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 1>things that like that fish is so uh you know,

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>so synonymous with the Northeast that you forget that that

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is where they end up, and they have the southern

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>guys have a chance at these giant blue veins. They

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 1>also have gigantic mako sharks in the Gulf, and mako

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.879
<v Speaker 1>is such like a Northeast fishery too, but those dudes

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 1>down there have them way bigger. So it's I always

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>think this is this is incredibly cool. But there are

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>actually other fisheries along that route, like one of the

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>real famous ones that I think actually also goes back

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to Hemingway days. They used to have a huge tournament

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>in Biminy when those fish were passing through and like

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the game was you wanted it to be like shit,

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 1>nasty rough and they would like spot them coming through

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the crests of the swells and like feed them a

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.360
<v Speaker 1>bally who in the waves. And that went on for

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>decades and that that doesn't I don't think that really

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 1>happens anymore, or you can't target them because they're not

0:44:56.280 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>in season now when it's happening. Um. But yeah, man,

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean bluefin was a great success and now they

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:06.439
<v Speaker 1>could be in trouble again. There's also um, I believe

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>they found out that there was mixing of the Eastern

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and Western Atlantic stocks. So for years they thought, well,

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>let the let the Italians or whoever take as many

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>as they want. It's not effecting our fish. Actually that

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>was wrong. There's proof that there's some some mixing of

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>the species. You know they're over there with the gabba

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>ghoul and the tunas um. But it's tough, man. I

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 1>love bluefin fishing and I don't believe it's it's been

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>changed or altered again. But for for this year. Right now,

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's one fish per boat in Jersey, and

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it has to be at least twenty eight

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 1>in forty four seven. I don't quote me on that,

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's irrelevant because they've been pretty abundant the last

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.919
<v Speaker 1>few seasons, the smaller size fish, the popping size fish.

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you think about it from a chartering perspective.

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, you've got a two thousand dollar tuna charter,

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you're breaking up with your boys. Not a whole lot

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>of incentive to throw that kind of money out to

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 1>go out and bring one. Like what what do you do?

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Then when you catch the twenty eight inchurer on the

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>first pass, it's like, we're not a bigger one? Or

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 1>do you keep that one? So I want to see

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>those fish thrive because I love chasing them. But I

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta be honest man, like I am. You know me,

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a meat fisherman, but I'm a glutton for tuna.

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Like when I make the effort to go tuna fishing,

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I want all the tuna. I want my three yellow fin.

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I want them all because I don't know what I'm

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna get there again. So it's it's tough, man. And

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 1>when you when you do catch and release tuna, they

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>fight themselves to death, you know what I mean, Like

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:41.320
<v Speaker 1>do they exhaust themselves? So um, you gotta put some

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>faith in science. You want these fish to be around.

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>But from a recreational perspective, those legs right now, it

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 1>makes you kind of question burning that kind of fuel

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to go out there and catch one. You know, they're

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty and I understand the questioning. But if you look

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>at the numbers the recreational fishery, I think I read

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>as worth something like I don't have the numbers in

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>front me many millions of dollars what I'm going to

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 1>say because I read this earlier and I've read too

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>many things. But the despite the fact that what you

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 1>say that you don't know if you're it's worth it

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>or not, a lot of people think it is enough

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>that they're willing to spend the money even with the

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>what someone called draconian regulations on fish. And then these

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>last Oh yeah, dude. I I say that because I'm

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:24.399
<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to have enough people where it's a gas

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>money trip. But I mean, you think about the guys

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>who you know. For a lot of people they don't

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>have that access. They're booking their big trip every year. Um, dude,

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I've been there, not because of the rags, just because

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a slow day and you got five dudes

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>on board and you got one thirty five inch blue fan.

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I'll take the tail. I guess you know

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:46.800
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Like there's there's not good divvying. The

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>divvying is very depressing, you know what I'm saying. It's

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>very depressing divvying. So five guys fighting over the belly,

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 1>so a lot of a lot of that bluefin, the

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>big ones. I don't really know where it goes. I

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 1>guess there's fancy enough sushi places that buy some of

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 1>it in the States. I don't have enough money to

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 1>eat at them, but you might find one at a casino,

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>which is going to lead into my next story. Okay,

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>so not superfishient related per se. But I found this

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 1>interesting nonetheless, And the main message of this story is

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>that everything is smart now and just keeps getting smarter.

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about things, um that in many cases

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>probably didn't even really need to be smart, Like, as

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:33.720
<v Speaker 1>an example, they are smart fishing rods now that connect

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to your phone, and tell you the weather and how

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 1>many times you've casted and so on, and many of

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys probably have smart smokers and crop pots and

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.760
<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth. Um. And this is posing

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 1>a growing problem in the world of cybersecurity because it

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that long ago that all this sector really had

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 1>to focus on where I t assets like servers and workstations. Now,

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 1>of course we have to worry about cybersecurity on our

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.720
<v Speaker 1>phones and laptops. But the reality is if it connects

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to the Internet, even if it's just your smart bobber

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:08.400
<v Speaker 1>or your smart gaff or whatever, it can potentially be

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.840
<v Speaker 1>hacked into and used to get into your larger system,

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like you're your larger files. Um. And this is exactly

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>what happened at a North American casino not long ago. Now,

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the article on the website entrepreneur dot com that I

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:25.760
<v Speaker 1>found does not name the casino, but this casino featured

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 1>huge fish tanks on the casino floor. And of course

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to, you know, sit there and yank on

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:35.879
<v Speaker 1>a slot machine and look at dead fish, because that's

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a buzz kill. Uh. So every aspect of these tanks

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>are were made smart so they could be monitored by

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 1>the casino's network from behind the scenes, and hackers ended

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 1>up getting ahold of the casino's database of high rollers

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 1>by breaking into the system through the fish tanks thermometers.

0:49:56.040 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 1>What yes, right, So the weak in the system that

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 1>they could hack into and then and then and then

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 1>get what they needed. They hacked into the smart thermometers

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>in the casino's gigantic fish tanks. And every and whenever

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I hear anything about someone trying to get get one

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>over on a casino for whatever reason, what comes to

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.360
<v Speaker 1>mind is funny farm. Do you know what I'm talking about?

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Chevy Chase is terror. I don't remember the senior You

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>don't remember the scene where his he makes the wife

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 1>read the novel and then he ends up burning it. Yeah,

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 1>four poker buddies knocking over a casino the perfect crime anyway.

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 1>From the story per Nicole Egan, who is um from

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.399
<v Speaker 1>the security firm Dark Trace, the attackers used a fish

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:44.840
<v Speaker 1>tank thermometer to get a foothold in the network. They

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 1>then found the high roller database and then pull that

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:51.480
<v Speaker 1>information out of the main frame back into the thermostat

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>in the tank, and then from the thermostat uploaded it

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to their cloud. So I did a little background digging

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and the breach Actually this is a new article, but

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 1>the breach happened last summer and the hackers were able

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to pull ten gigs of data through the fish tank

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.760
<v Speaker 1>thermostat to a device in Finland. One of the reports

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that came out around the time of the breach said

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>some pretty scary shit. Uh. One area that is super

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>smart these days as kids toys and the FBI is

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:22.640
<v Speaker 1>actually warren parents that like a smart Teddy Bear that

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>reads stories, or like your Fisher priced tablet connected to

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 1>your WiFi, could potentially be used to help hackers like

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 1>learn the names and locations of your kids. So everything

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>becoming smart has drawbacks. It's awful, but but it's also

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:41.240
<v Speaker 1>important to note that like the cybersecurity sector is working

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 1>very hard to keep up with that, so like this

0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 1>fish tank incident helps them stop that like from ever

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:51.400
<v Speaker 1>happening again. So that industry is adapting as things are

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 1>being made smarter and smarter. Um. But I mean, I

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 1>know there are hundreds of you listening that have that

0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>smart rod, so bear in mind, like those could be

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>hacked and someone could learn that the last ptures you

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>put on Instagram. We're all taken at the same spillway,

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and you will be outed, so keep that in mind.

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>But that's how they got in the fish tank. How

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>am I supposed to transition out of that into anything?

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>When you screwing transition still counts the transitions he does.

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 1>I think this is just a ployer, like I don't

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 1>have a good story, but I'm gonna screw him over

0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:34.400
<v Speaker 1>so you get you know what, I don't have a

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>good story either, So I'm gonna move from your stupid

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 1>story that has nothing to do about fit with fishing

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>my stupid story that has slightly more to do with fishing.

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, look, I know this is this is a

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:50.120
<v Speaker 1>cheesy story and and kind of dumb. But after reading

0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>about it and then I fell into this video watching

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>hole after I found the story, and I couldn't stop.

0:52:56.600 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 1>It was mesmerizing. Uh. And I'm sure any listeners we

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 1>have in the Madison, Wisconsin area are well aware of

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:06.840
<v Speaker 1>what I'm about talk about because it's it's clearly clearly

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:08.839
<v Speaker 1>the local news is all over it. I don't think

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>there's much else to talk about in Madison right now,

0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:14.839
<v Speaker 1>at least nothing positive, so they're all covering the same thing.

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 1>But but if if you are in that area and

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:21.360
<v Speaker 1>you haven't already heard about it, you should know because

0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you might still have time to check out some flying

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:31.320
<v Speaker 1>muskies if you hurry. Every spring, muskies migrate out of

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Lake Monona in downtown Madison and up the Winger Creek

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>where they run into a a three foot tall dam

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and they're the big socks all congregate mill around in

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 1>the pool below the dam. And then just like sock salmon,

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:52.400
<v Speaker 1>they throw themselves into the air and leap over the

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:55.400
<v Speaker 1>concrete impediment to reach the warm water of Lake Wingra.

0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's like it's just like all those salmon videos

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 1>you've seen, except with musky doesn't say Wisconsin. You don't

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>have postcards with this on them, Like this seems like

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing, like what are you doing? Capitalize

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 1>the idea. Muskies are not quite as acrobatic aerially when

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>when not hooked as the salmon. They're not quite as

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 1>as smooth about it, a little awkward award. There's there's

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>some awkward, some awkward failures, which makes it even more

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.400
<v Speaker 1>endearing to me. But but they do they do make

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>it over sometimes, but a lot of times they don't,

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 1>And clearly this is something that people know about and

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>they're into. I'd never heard of it. You hadn't heard

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 1>of it. It must be a local thing, and I

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 1>couldn't completely tell, but it seems like there's a viewing

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:44.560
<v Speaker 1>platform where people really yeah, dude, And there's no T shirts.

0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:47.400
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't reported, no T shirts reported, But I think

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a gold mine opportunity for anybody again

0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 1>in that area. Get out there and stuff somebody shirt

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 1>if you If there's stickers or something at this, I'll trade.

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 1>We'll trade you bent stickers for like a pack of

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:02.320
<v Speaker 1>like I've whatever they are. I watched the jumping Muskies

0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 1>of Madison. I'm so glad you feel the same way

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:06.880
<v Speaker 1>about this as I, because all I do is this

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:10.000
<v Speaker 1>is like a perfect springtime activity. If you're not actually

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna go fishing, right, load up the whole family, Like,

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 1>let's go watch some flying muskie kids. And the kids

0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be annoyed, but if you get them a

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 1>hot dog and a T shirt, they're probably into it.

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:23.719
<v Speaker 1>So I loved everything about this, And again I spent

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:26.280
<v Speaker 1>more time than I should have when I was working

0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 1>watching flying muskie videos and then I read further into

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the story, and what had felt like a heartwarming family

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:35.800
<v Speaker 1>funtail it started to go a little south. I f

0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:38.399
<v Speaker 1>and be honest, because it turns out like all those

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>muskie are are going over that damn so they can

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:45.439
<v Speaker 1>get to the warmer lake upstream to spawn. It turns

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>out that the contaminants in lake wing rep prevent muskie

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>eggs from actually hatching, and and the DNR has no

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:57.719
<v Speaker 1>recorded evidence of natural fish recruitment in that system. So

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.480
<v Speaker 1>they jumped the damn and then can't nothing happens when

0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 1>they get there, They can't reproduce. They do all like

0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:06.439
<v Speaker 1>they go through all that work, they swim up the creek,

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:10.359
<v Speaker 1>they hit the damn, they fly over it, and it's

0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 1>utterly futile. How many years has this been going on?

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Like wouldn't they like wouldn't the fish in the system

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like have their genetics sorted out by now to know that,

0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 1>like that's not gonna work out. Well, I mean, hatchery fish,

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 1>there's no natural recruit in the system. They're all they're

0:56:28.160 --> 0:56:33.759
<v Speaker 1>all hatchery fish, got you, okay? Well that yeah, that's that.

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 1>That makes the t shirts a little sadder, But I

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 1>would still i'd still I still enjoy having one. Well, uh,

0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:43.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think you got this one. I won't.

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know for sure, but giant tuna jumping with

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the beats, uh, the cicada's and casino ice. So you

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 1>hear that, Philly just rolling over and give it to me,

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll take Yeah, it's okay, it's okay. Phil surprises is

0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 1>sometimes though, So we're gonna hear from Phil and then

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:03.840
<v Speaker 1>are gonna move on a covering water h with a gentleman.

0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 1>A lot of you probably are aware of former dude

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:10.359
<v Speaker 1>behind Barstool Outdoors, Ben Friedman, but he's better known by

0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 1>another name. All those stupid stories that have nothing to

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:18.960
<v Speaker 1>do with fishing usually appeal to me. You guys called

0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it already, Miles, you're the winner this week, Joe. I

0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 1>do think, however, that your fish thermostatic casino heist story

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>could be the next exciting addition to the Ocean's movie franchise.

0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the water punt is already there, so the

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>movie practically rights itself, and you're gonna need a crew

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:40.439
<v Speaker 1>as nuts as you are. Who do you gonna mind?

0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm Joe A Miles Nulty. This is real horse coming

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to you. This is Stripe, a chunk and expert, Bob

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the garbage man Briton and not a now scheme. What's up,

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:56.720
<v Speaker 1>pass wives, it's me your boy lance V. You proved

0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:01.240
<v Speaker 1>your point. You broke into my vault. Congratulate shows you're

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a dead man. I'm going in. I can hold it. No,

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm alright, alright, So joining us today for covering water,

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:24.920
<v Speaker 1>we have got Mr Ben Freedman. However, most people are

0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 1>going to know you by a different name, which would

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:30.440
<v Speaker 1>be tell us what they'd know you by. I guess, uh,

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Young page Views, I don't know. It's the last time

0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:34.919
<v Speaker 1>I was Little Mediator podcast. It's kind of the same

0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 1>situation where Steve was looking at me like, what the

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 1>hell is so hYP I guess I don't know why. Yes,

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Speaker 1>so young page use y p and you would have

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 1>guy you you like, kicked off and grew bar stool outdoors.

0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:53.000
<v Speaker 1>That was your gig, right, Yes, yeah, from from this brain.

0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:55.040
<v Speaker 1>One of the only things is brain has ever really

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 1>developed up in here other than thinking about fish. I

0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 1>guess it's still related to fish. But yeah, we've we've

0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>seen some evidence there. There's some other things that came

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>out of that brain. Yeah, we're gonna talk about that too,

0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 1>so people know you as young page views and I

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:14.440
<v Speaker 1>just have to add it famously, when you interviewed for barstool,

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 1>what did you bring to the office A wallaby or

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 1>something like that, A live animal? Yes, there was. It

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 1>was an albino wallaby named Winston I believe his name was.

0:59:23.080 --> 0:59:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And honestly, our paths have never crossed since, and I

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:29.760
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I didn't wonder what Winston is doing out there,

0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:33.479
<v Speaker 1>probably hopping around a pasture. Hold On, hold on, where

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 1>did you get a line on an albino wallaby? Like?

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 1>How did that come about? Honestly, I think I got

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:43.320
<v Speaker 1>it luckier than I realized, because I have since looked.

0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I have looked for them for other reasons that or not.

0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to procure wallaby again, and it was way

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:52.040
<v Speaker 1>harder the second time. So I guess I got one

0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the first time. But it was I think I found

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it online. It was some lady had like a fall wallaby. No,

0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it was in it. It was like in New York.

1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I think I was looking up exotic animal things because

1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I was looking for a tiger and the tiger was

1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:08.080
<v Speaker 1>too much money, so I was like, had to go

1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to plan B. Don't you hate that when the tiger

1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:12.240
<v Speaker 1>is too much money? Like you have your heart set

1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:15.479
<v Speaker 1>on a tiger. I was so sad because in my mind,

1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what a great idea. I'll just get a

1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:19.840
<v Speaker 1>tiger and then I'll walk in And then it turns

1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:22.080
<v Speaker 1>out you have to get permits to bring a freaking

1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Bengal Tiger. City were sticklers about that, but any But

1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:29.160
<v Speaker 1>here's why I asked though. I brought it up because

1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:31.640
<v Speaker 1>did you know that there is a wallaby on Instagram

1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:36.040
<v Speaker 1>called Young Pouch Views which appears to be named him

1:00:36.080 --> 1:00:38.160
<v Speaker 1>in St. Louis. That's another wall be that I went

1:00:38.280 --> 1:00:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to visit when it was a baby and they were

1:00:39.960 --> 1:00:43.080
<v Speaker 1>naming it and then it was called young Pouch Jews.

1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:45.280
<v Speaker 1>But then I honestly have been kind of a dead

1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:46.920
<v Speaker 1>beat dad. I got to go back and check on

1:00:46.960 --> 1:00:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the wall I have. Admittedly, I'm gonna say right now,

1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:55.360
<v Speaker 1>hand up, I've not gone back, and it feels horrible

1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to say out love, I have not gone back and

1:00:56.960 --> 1:00:59.000
<v Speaker 1>played with it since that first in some states. In

1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:01.000
<v Speaker 1>some states you can't get a fishing license if you

1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:04.600
<v Speaker 1>don't pay your wallaby support so you gotta watch that, man. Yeah.

1:01:06.200 --> 1:01:08.640
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, man, so you you put out content for

1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:11.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of years, um for bar stool, and you

1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:13.959
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of your your fishing content. I noticed

1:01:14.000 --> 1:01:15.240
<v Speaker 1>it was like sort of like a little bit of

1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:17.240
<v Speaker 1>a jackass element to what you did too. Like you

1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:19.440
<v Speaker 1>did a lot of videos of you, like in precarious

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:23.600
<v Speaker 1>situations or doing painful things. Right, A lot of it

1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:26.680
<v Speaker 1>looked uncomfortable. Yes, sometimes I just stand there and get

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<v Speaker 1>bit by like three pythons, and like, honestly it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of fun because once I started getting

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<v Speaker 1>bit by more and more stuff, I realized, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this stuff is overhyped, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like a python, I've gotten hooks in my

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<v Speaker 1>finger fifty million times more painful than getting bit by

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<v Speaker 1>python thirty times in a row. And I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun to almost like dispel that weird fear

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<v Speaker 1>that people have. That makes sense, I don't know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like the most um trying to make it more than

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<v Speaker 1>a eulogy of getting bit by I guess goes for

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger reason. Okay, So I asked you about all

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<v Speaker 1>these these videos where you're in uncomfortable situations because there

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<v Speaker 1>may be a question or two tied to them in

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<v Speaker 1>covering water and to explain how that works. Here's what

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<v Speaker 1>we do. So I'm gonna put two minutes on the

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<v Speaker 1>clock on my cell phone and we are just going

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<v Speaker 1>to pepper you with questions. And this is different from

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<v Speaker 1>your rapid fire. So instead of doing like a a

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<v Speaker 1>like a formal, like well thought out interview, you have

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<v Speaker 1>just seconds to answer each one because the clock is ticking. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think. We've never had we can't think too much,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've never had anybody pass. I mean, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a rule, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But then what we'll do is at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of your two minutes, we'll give you a full

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<v Speaker 1>minute to expand on any one of your answers. So

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<v Speaker 1>like we always say, whichever one you think is the

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<v Speaker 1>most damning, like which is the one that you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>should I should not have said that, We'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>a whole minute to undo what you've done. You get

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<v Speaker 1>to save. It's it's a it's a career saver after

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<v Speaker 1>you like a little bits. That's basically what we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do usually less thinking? Is it for me? So right?

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<v Speaker 1>Afore you can beat to my advantage? All right, So Miles,

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<v Speaker 1>are your questions ready? All right? Here we go, Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready for this? As ready as I could be?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I may not be, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully I'm ready. Okay, Myles, I'll lead, I'll start, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and two minutes are on the clock. Starting now. Your

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<v Speaker 1>childhood fishing idol was, say Mike Ignelli and my grandpa.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta throw him in there as well. Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I like that. Have you ever had long hair? Um? Never?

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<v Speaker 1>Never longer? Like maybe to the top of my ears?

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<v Speaker 1>But that's it. If you could fish with any celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>living or dead, who would it be? Honestly, Drake, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a weird one. I'll explain it in my minute

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<v Speaker 1>after the recording artist. Okay, okay. What's the most underrated

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<v Speaker 1>fishing state? Oh, I'm gonna say Missouri hometown. Don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it doesn't get enough credit. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>very fun. What's the most expensive pair of sneakers? You

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<v Speaker 1>wont did? I have to buy him? My mom one

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<v Speaker 1>time helped me get these nikes for my birthday, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were called like the pocket knife DM or something.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like two nine dollars and they're they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>like camo colored with orange bottoms. Pretty cool, gangster rep

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<v Speaker 1>or outlawed country. Probably gangs arrived to be honest, nice nice?

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<v Speaker 1>Which is the most funny target? Snakeheads, peacock bass, or

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<v Speaker 1>clown knife fish. Honestly, I'm in love with clown knife

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<v Speaker 1>fish right now. That's subject to change. But my answers

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<v Speaker 1>clown knife fish, maps, vibrats, panther martin or rooster tail

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<v Speaker 1>rooster's tail. What's worse getting stung by a man o

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<v Speaker 1>wore jellyfish or bitten by a python jelly? The man

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<v Speaker 1>war is definitely worse because it lasts longer. It lasts

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<v Speaker 1>for like hours. Sketchiest spot you've ever gone fishing? A

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<v Speaker 1>few days ago down here in South Florida, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>with a machette was walking by me in one of

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<v Speaker 1>these canals. I think any of the canals in South

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<v Speaker 1>Florida are the scariest place I've ever got. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>worst place you've ever been hooked? Oh? I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's one of two places. Either down near

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<v Speaker 1>the gonads in the leg that we could have been bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I'd say, like up here in the upper upper

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<v Speaker 1>face region where it's luckily fingers crossed. Neither one has

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<v Speaker 1>been a direct hit yet, but I'd say one of

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<v Speaker 1>those two. All right, finished the sentence. Most fishermen are

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<v Speaker 1>just drinking. Okay, we got time for one more? Each year?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the last CD you purchased, not album you downloaded,

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<v Speaker 1>c D you purchased. Probably Jimmy Buffett greatest hits. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like an all incoming doubles at the register

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<v Speaker 1>at the costco. All right, man, got time for one more? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I get one more? Yeah? Okay. Would you rather be

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<v Speaker 1>a rapper or a tournament bass angler? Oh? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a champion of either one. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like probably tournament bass angler, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There might be more money in the music industry. So

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<v Speaker 1>definitely we are we are out and listen, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't talk about it up front, but there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>there were several rap questions in here because for people

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know, right before you were in the outdoor industry,

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<v Speaker 1>right you were, you were making a play to be

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<v Speaker 1>a rapper, like we've listened to your song. Actually catch sure, sure, absolutely, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta scrub those off the internet. My don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But like so the rap dream kind of not We're

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<v Speaker 1>not you're not dreaming it anymore. Ever, you never know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? There? Who knows? But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's certainly lost some theme in the past aple years.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you freestyle right now? No, I'm out a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that are good at rapping, maybe good at freestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be the guy that it would take like

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<v Speaker 1>a week to write a song and then I'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to record it like fifty thousand times in the studio

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to make it like no, man, But

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<v Speaker 1>because we're so into music, we couldn't not bring up

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<v Speaker 1>the wrap the rap career. So anyway, but anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>am gonna put one minute on the clock and and

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<v Speaker 1>feel free to expand on any one of your answers

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<v Speaker 1>that you feel feel you'd like everybody to know more about.

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<v Speaker 1>Time starts now. Um, I would say the one that

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<v Speaker 1>has really just been in my mind for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and it says one celebrity like living or dead. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a time I figot like last year, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago, I was sitting there and I just said, wondered,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, there's the rapper named Drake is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest dude in the entire industry right now as

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<v Speaker 1>far as pop music anything. He's he's a star. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just I couldn't find any evidence of him fishing ever.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, it maybe something with my weird personality,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is in my brain that caused me to be

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<v Speaker 1>so screw it up. I became obsessed with trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out if he's ever just gone fishing one time.

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<v Speaker 1>And this guy, you gotta think of super famous celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>their life's been documented for a decade and sometime now

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<v Speaker 1>there's no evidence of him ever going fishing one time.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a picture, not an account, not anything. I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to think this grown man who's worth, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of hundred million dollars, has never caught a fish.

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<v Speaker 1>And for some reason, it's like one of my missions

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<v Speaker 1>in life to just I want to be the dude

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<v Speaker 1>that takes him to go fishing, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have that joy in his life, money and

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<v Speaker 1>women and success. He's never caught a fish. No, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not dissing him. I just it seems like something

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<v Speaker 1>every human should have as part of their experience on Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just don't think he's done. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I want to take him fishing. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Drake's listening to the show, so I'm I'm positive

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna happen for you? Now? Are you gonna slip

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<v Speaker 1>him the demo tape? Like? Just maybe? Because because you

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<v Speaker 1>never know? You know what, I didn't even think of

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<v Speaker 1>that part of this could be my roundabout the way

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<v Speaker 1>I think the dream could still be alive. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to somehow get him to go fish with me, and

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe even just hav enough fund that he comes back,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll be like, hey, I'll pick you up

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll just be playing it in the car. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think there's a lesson in there. Is there?

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<v Speaker 1>I think tell do tell here. Here's what I distilled

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<v Speaker 1>from that. Albino Wallaby's ruined rap careers every time. If

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<v Speaker 1>you ever find yourself walking to a Manhattan offics cradling

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<v Speaker 1>an Albino Wallaby, your future is a rap artist is over.

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<v Speaker 1>And I dare you to prove me wrong with evidence

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<v Speaker 1>on that one isn't that what what made DMX go

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<v Speaker 1>out something with an albino wallaby? I don't know, You're

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<v Speaker 1>probably right here. Look, I I appreciate a lot of rap.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like a huge rap fan, but say what

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<v Speaker 1>you want about YP songs. There were a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hooks that's stuck with me. Like there were a couple

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<v Speaker 1>like I found myself just like muttering them in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wow, man, that like it's a good hook.

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<v Speaker 1>I also feel like we're doing our audience and him

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<v Speaker 1>a disservice if we don't at least give you a

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<v Speaker 1>little taste, just like a little bit right. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>here's why peace putting a little hot fire. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>young page views. They can make this content till this

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<v Speaker 1>one at night. Just might take your lunch and need it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll bite cameras, cameras, cameras, cameras, give me all

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<v Speaker 1>the footage. Micaba called you smash your woman and now

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<v Speaker 1>that you know what's been playing in Joe's head on

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<v Speaker 1>that concludes our cosmotology masterclass for this week. But as

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<v Speaker 1>you're sweeping up, note the ragged clumps of wisdom we

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<v Speaker 1>left behind. Long haired peanut Butter sandwich smugglers should not

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<v Speaker 1>travel internationally with rod tubes. Fish flies like to get

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<v Speaker 1>freaky and zz top beards, and snake things hurt less

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<v Speaker 1>than fish hooks embedded in fingers, at least according to

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<v Speaker 1>that one source that is correct. Hey, also, please keep

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<v Speaker 1>sending mail to Bent at the meat eater dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>for all the fish