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Speaker 1: as Baltimore did everything right and hammered Buffalo. We're going

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Speaker 1: to have a really really long breakdown of many of

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Speaker 1: the games this weekend, including Alabama Georgia with John Middelkoff

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Speaker 1: in about ten minutes. So you know this, Buffalo and Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: two teams that met tonight, are both were to good teams,

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Speaker 1: great cores, really solid coaches, excellent organizations, front offices, draft

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Speaker 1: developed well. But they're they're unlike Kansas City, which wins

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Speaker 1: year long. Usually when you're a dynasty. You know, Steph

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Speaker 1: Katie Klay Thompson in their prime, Bama in their prime,

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Speaker 1: Yukon women's basketball, Yokovic and tennis. When you get dominant

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Speaker 1: just they're just exhilarating blowout wins. Kansas City doesn't give

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Speaker 1: that's the tipping point. But Baltimore in any Sunday can

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Speaker 1: But tonight's one of those nights. Where everything went well,

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Speaker 1: is Chris Collins were set at tonight. They're like facing

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Speaker 1: one of those academy teams in college that runs you know,

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Speaker 1: There's nothing like Baltimore and Lamar Jackson in the league,

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Speaker 1: So I just thought that played in there. But in

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels looks absolutely fantastic. So I think JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 1: So good for Chicago and good for Washington to win

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Speaker 1: starved franchises that haven't had great owners. Washington's got new ownership,

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Speaker 1: Chicago's same old ownership, but they've got their quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: It looks like all right.

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Speaker 1: I could start in a lot of areas. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start with Minnesota Green Bay because going into Lambeau twenty

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Speaker 1: Brock Purdy and CJ. Stroud were like, this defense is insane.

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Speaker 2: You know, far balls. He threw a lot of interceptions, right,

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Speaker 2: you're playing a high end defense. I did a little

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Speaker 2: do people in the league think Minnesota is for real?

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Speaker 2: The Niners and the Texans both responded, Hell yeah. Then

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Speaker 2: they came out today, Kevin O'Connell and Sam Donald that

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Speaker 2: first half look like Joe Montana and Bill Walsh and

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Speaker 2: and the weapons they have. Colin So you ran into

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Speaker 2: a buzzsaw, but you can't throw interception. He wore a

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Speaker 2: ten am kickoff for a West Coast team long trip.

426
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Speaker 2: This was if you're not winning this game, you're probably

427
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Speaker 2: instead of heading for seven or eight, might be heading

428
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Speaker 2: for five or six. So this was a big game

429
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Speaker 2: for Chicago at home. Quiet the crowd a little bit

430
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Speaker 2: because the fans, they're like, what the hell's going on here?

431
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: Partly because the expectations were so high. That's why think

432
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: about with Jayden Daniels, both of them, I mean, these

433
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Speaker 2: guys went one too. Both of them won the last

434
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Speaker 2: two Heismans. But the expectations for Jaden weren't nearly as

435
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Speaker 2: high as Caleb just because of the Avalanche hype. Really

436
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: over the course of his college career from three years

437
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: ago when he came in for Spencer Rattler in a

438
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,479
Speaker 2: Kansas game and ripped the ball out of the guy's hands.

439
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: And you watch Jayden Daniels and you go, I don't

440
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 2: know how you could look much better, just in terms

441
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: of calm, poise, deep ball accuracy, accuracy across the field,

442
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 2: just zero freak out whenever there's a rush, throwing guys open,

443
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: like to me right now. And it's not apples to apples.

444
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: They're playing on different teams. His offensive coordinators clearly better.

445
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: They sculpted an offense around him that just fits. He's

446
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 2: in the shotgun. But Kingsbury's added more physical run game

447
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: by Adam Anthony Lynn, who they stole from the Niners,

448
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,239
Speaker 2: who's kind of an old school running back guy, and

449
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: it's just working. And I don't know how many games,

450
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: how good their defense is. Ultimately, the Cardinals might just suck,

451
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Speaker 2: But just if you just watch him independent of everything,

452
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: you go, holy shit, this guy's this guy's got a

453
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: lot going for him.

454
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Speaker 1: So let's pivot to that forty two fourteen, Washington goes

455
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Speaker 1: into Arizona. So this is one of my games I

456
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Speaker 1: really liked. I liked Arizona a lot. I thought you

457
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: talk about a good spot for the Bears rams off

458
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: an emotional game beat up. I thought this was a

459
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: great spot for Arizona. One of the two things that

460
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: jump out to me is how not only accurate twenty

461
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: six of thirty eight rushes seven yards of play for

462
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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, how effortlessly accurate he is moving left, moving right.

463
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Speaker 1: It's some guys, it's a strength. Like Sam Darnold. I

464
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: always feel like has to kind of have his feet

465
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Speaker 1: set to throw the ball accurately. Yeah, Jaden Daniels, it's

466
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: just Washington. On run plays, on screenplays, it feels there's

467
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: so much space. I feel like it's easier. Jayden Daniels

468
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: is it's just easy looking to.

469
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Speaker 2: Me, Colin. He has in the last six days they

470
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Speaker 2: played on Monday night, attempted fifty three passes and he's

471
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Speaker 2: completed forty seven of them. And did they punt today?

472
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Speaker 2: They might not have. They scored forty two points. They

473
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Speaker 2: definitely didn't put on Monday night. I mean your offense,

474
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Speaker 2: they didn't punt the week before. It's impossible to be

475
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Speaker 2: any less efficient. Well, when you're literally completing every pass

476
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Speaker 2: and they're running for they ran first almost six yards

477
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Speaker 2: of carry. Their run game fundamentally like what I grew

478
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: up around football. Pat Hill. Andy Reid's a little more

479
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: physical than Cliff Kingsbury, but he has mastered what he does,

480
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 2: that shotgun run, and it's working right now for them,

481
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: and clearly as quarterback is comfortable in that, and their

482
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: offense has got to be one of the more fun

483
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: units in the league to watch. But when you're completing

484
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: at that accuracy, like Caleb still has passes where you're like, god, yeah,

485
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: it's a little off.

486
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: So is Jordan Love.

487
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what's his name for the Broncos? Now, granted

488
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: it was a torrential downpour, balls flying all over the place,

489
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks. This guy, this this looks like twenty fifteen

490
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers or something right now. I mean just hitting

491
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: guys in stride on every pass, short wheel routes, intermediate routes,

492
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: deep routes, two point conversions where there's this field is

493
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: way wider than it is long, so you got to

494
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: be precise it is. I mean, he would be we

495
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: got a long way to go. But the odds, you know,

496
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 2: Caleb was like plus one fifty to win Rookie of

497
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: the Year. This guy was like five to one. I mean,

498
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: he's he's got a lot of momentum right now. If

499
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Speaker 2: he keeps this up. I mean, look at the division,

500
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: Cowboys and shambles, bunch of injuries. Eagles look like trash.

501
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: We know the Giants aren't going to win many games.

502
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: Maybe you were right, maybe this is a playoff team,

503
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: not even a playoff team. I mean, could they win

504
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: the division? Long way to go?

505
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Speaker 1: They were my surprise. This is my surprise team in

506
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: the NFL was Washington. I didn't look very smart after

507
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: they got trounced by Tampa, but it looks good now.

508
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: So it's really I was talking to Steve Kim. I

509
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: had dinner with him the other night, and you know,

510
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: people forget Kime two time executive year. He had a

511
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: really tough owner to deal with, and Kyler was very difficult.

512
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: Kyler just doesn't watch enough film, and it's been an issue.

513
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: I've supported him, it's an issue. But I was talking

514
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: to him about Cliff and he said, listen, he said,

515
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: Cliff now has tried head coaching twice. It hasn't worked.

516
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: He says, but when you sit down with him and

517
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: interview him, the reason he got head coaching jobs. He's

518
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: a really a brilliant guy. He's just not he's he's

519
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: not a disciplinarian. Things got a little loose, right, like

520
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: like it would get loose. But Kime told me when

521
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: he went to Washington, he goes that jad and Daniels

522
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: kid could not literally get a better guy. First of all,

523
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: he's not a yellowness screamer. He's a teacher. He's fun.

524
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: He likes to make it fun. He gives you, he

525
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: watches what you do, manufactures and offense based solely on

526
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: what you do. And because Jaden moved, Cliff was banging

527
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: on the table for this guy. He's like, guys, I

528
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about J. J. McCarthy. This is

529
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: the guy. This is the guy. So he went all

530
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: in on this. Adam Peters, the new GM, dan Quinn,

531
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: they listened to Cliff. Cliff was like, this is it,

532
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: and it's just this is very true. Brian Flores is

533
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: the best defensive coordinator in football. His personality got in

534
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: the way of his coaching as a head coach. Cliff's

535
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: personality the opposite of Flora's. It's not intense, he doesn't bark,

536
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: he doesn't discipline. Cliff's the opposite. So Flores in Kingsbury

537
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: are the antithesis of each other. But in both instances,

538
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: one guy is too intense or was, and one guy

539
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: doesn't want to manage and discipline and you.

540
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: Have to do some of it.

541
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Flores and Kingsbury are a plus plus plus

542
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: at what they do, and that we see this all

543
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: over the world. Some guys are just salesmen. Some guys

544
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: can be the president but couldn't sell anything. It's just

545
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: the way the world works. When I watch that offense today,

546
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I don't remember seeing an offense. They're not

547
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: fooling people. What they're basically doing is they're getting They're

548
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: winning the math game. They just looked like, I mean,

549
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: these runs, John, these running backs aren't having to create

550
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: anything off contact. They're getting four and five yard runs

551
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: before anybody initiates contact. It just it just looks so easy.

552
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm waiting for them to struggle and get into

553
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: a fistfight, but it's like they just it's just up

554
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: down seven on seven.

555
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: I've been saying this for a long time. The best

556
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: part about the NFL. In most industries, you know, people

557
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: fight and claw in the private sector in different corporations

558
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: to try to at the head of the table because

559
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: it's so much more lucrative than a lot of different

560
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: management spots. But in football, the number two spot, whether

561
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: you're the offensive or defensive coordinator, especially on a team

562
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: where the head coach is the opposite, pays you like

563
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: two to five million dollars and you have no responsibility

564
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: when someone gets injured, when someone gets DUI, when who

565
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: knows what happens, which we've all followed the NFL long enough.

566
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: Literally everything happens. Ain't year problem. You're still getting paid

567
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: three million dollars and it's got to be one of

568
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: the best jobs in It's still you spend a lot

569
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: of time. It's a lot of work, but in terms

570
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: of the amount of money you're getting paid in the

571
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: when you're great like Flores or Kingsbury, whoever the best

572
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: coordinate Steve Spagnola, and none of the responsibilities on you

573
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: and you Basically in those guys individual spots, they kind

574
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: of get to be the head coach of their group. Right.

575
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's not telling Flores what to do. Dan Quinn's

576
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: not telling Kingsbury what incredible gig now there is. I

577
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: understand there's a big difference between three million dollars and

578
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: fourteen million dollars or ten million dollars. But some of

579
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: these guys, especially once they've tried it, like you could

580
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: do this for a long period of time and just

581
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: become a legend doing this. Like where is Cliff I

582
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: would imagine maybe not the NFL, but like over the

583
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: next couple of years, colleges are gonna call him again,

584
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: right Yeah, And they pay a lot. I think forty

585
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: guys make over four million dollars. I mean, you make

586
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: a lot of money and you don't have to answer

587
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: to anybody. Hard to get a better gig than that

588
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: that he's got going right now right in why And

589
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: I'd say same thing for Flores. I do think Flores

590
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: is gonna battle. You know, like you said, did you

591
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: see the viral clip of Kyle lightening into Brandon Ayuk

592
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: for wearing the wrong shorts? It came out. It came

593
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: out on Friday, Brandon, and you came to practice with

594
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: the wrong shorts, you know, in the regular season only,

595
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: like the press is only allowed there out there for

596
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, so it's the only time they were out there,

597
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: and Kyle went up to him and lit him up.

598
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean it was kind of embarrassing. For Ayuk, like

599
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 2: there's a dress code. He has the different shorts than

600
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: literally the entire team, and that's type stuff. You know.

601
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: Some coaches, like one thing I heard about Cliff is like, oh,

602
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: just let that fly, let that go, and you can't

603
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: like that ain't flying. And Kyle's not you know, Belichick here.

604
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: But it's hard being like that's on you as a

605
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: head coach. Little things like the wrong socks, right, And

606
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: I think Flora is dealing with the quarterback because that

607
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: is kind of like the heartbeat of the organization is

608
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: not really going to be anything. He's gonna be able

609
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: to answer as a coordinator. But eventually, if you're that good,

610
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: you know someone's gonna give him another because he's he's

611
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: not good. I mean right now, he's elite. Like you said, yes,

612
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: defense more than offense too. It's usually about like you

613
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: got to have the Jimmy's and the Joe's and who

614
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: do they got? Harrison Smith's like my age, I mean,

615
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: who who what are they? John Randall's not on the

616
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: defensive line. What are they going out there? In Minnesota?

617
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, those two guys right now, you're talking

618
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: coordinators of the year through four weeks. I mean it's

619
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: Brian Floras and Cliff Kingsbury kicking everybody's ass well.

620
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: And also, I mean the Cowboys have a coach in

621
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: the hot seat, the Eagles have a coach in the

622
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: hot seat, the Giants have a coach in the hot seat.

623
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Speaker 1: The building in Washington right now is joyful. They're winning,

624
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: they're young, they're ahead of schedule, and I think over

625
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: the course of a long season going to work happy

626
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: being on a winning show, being on a winning team

627
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: in that division, there is a lot of intensity week

628
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: to week. There is a sh you know what ton

629
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: of pressure on McCarthy, Sirianni Dable. That Washington building right

630
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: now is like, how good. That's one of the best

631
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: flights the Washington football team has flown in a decade.

632
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: Arizona to DC five hours that flight that sas big.

633
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a Commanders fan, that you haven't

634
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: seen that kind of competency forever.

635
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean RG three, before he got injured, was

636
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: really a special talent run around. Yeah, but he wasn't

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Speaker 2: picking you apart in the pocket like this guy was,

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Speaker 2: So you know, obviously his running was extremely special and

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Speaker 2: his arm strength was good Jayden has both those, but

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Speaker 2: the ability to just sit there like he's I don't know,

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Speaker 2: like a Mahomes or Herbert and make these throws from

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Speaker 2: within the pocket. And like you said, Philadelphia, that that

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Speaker 2: place you can only have and maybe who knows, maybe

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Speaker 2: Tampa and Jason Lyt and Todd Bowles just a great

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Speaker 2: matchup against the Eagles. I mean they've kicked their ass

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Speaker 2: twice in the last whatever six games, right the playoff

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Speaker 2: game and in this one. But you don't get too

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Speaker 2: many of those when you come into the season with

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Speaker 2: the pressure spending all this money and that thing, that

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia sixteen Eagles looked unprepared. You know, I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about this time of possession thirty six minutes to twenty three.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't close. And Philadelphia is the kind

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Speaker 1: of team because of their offensive line prowess through the years.

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Speaker 1: They do that to teams where they just play keep away.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jalen Hurts may not get your touchdowns all

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Speaker 1: the time in the red zone, but they dominate time

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Speaker 1: of possession. They usually are that kind of team. Detroit

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Speaker 1: can do that now with their offensive line for them

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Speaker 1: to get dominated. I was sitting and watching that game

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Speaker 1: and I thought, so, they're not dominating time possession. They're

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Speaker 1: not tackling well. Hurts is eighteen for thirty. They were

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Speaker 1: outgained by I wrote it down here at one point

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Speaker 1: two and twenty yards. I don't know where it finished,

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Speaker 1: but it was close to that. They don't do anything

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Speaker 1: well right now. Saquon Barkley a great player, and you

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Speaker 1: can't use injuries anymore. Like, there's no question Philadelphia. The

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Speaker 1: Chargers they're beat up. I mean the Rams they're beat up.

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Speaker 1: It happens, but I can still see things the Rams

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Speaker 1: do or teams that are beat up do, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's that's good football. I don't know what Philadelphia does well.

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Speaker 1: And again I thought this.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Tampa has been mowed over the previous two weeks, so

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Speaker 1: we know they're a vulnerable team. We don't think they're

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Speaker 1: playing like the Vikings. Do you think there's any chance

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Speaker 1: I can't point to anything they do well like Eberflus.

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Speaker 1: Their defense is pretty damn feisty. He's a defensive coach.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's any chance Nick gets run in season?

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Speaker 2: I think the Eagles are very hesitant to do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who would they have to bump up He's

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Speaker 2: you know, they're coordinators, like they just want those guys

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Speaker 2: to coordinate and Nick. I don't really know what Nick's

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Speaker 2: doing beside giving the thumbs up to go four on

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Speaker 2: four down. I mean, we know about his rocky relationship

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Speaker 2: with the quarterback. Think about the game. We just watched

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Speaker 2: Herbert and Mahomes, who both make an astronomical amount of money,

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Speaker 2: who have injuries all over the place. Mahomes lose, Mahomes

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Speaker 2: literally takes out his best receiver, probably blows out his knee.

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Speaker 2: You know, Herbert's out back there running for his life.

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Speaker 2: But when you watch him you go, these are two

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Speaker 2: special players, right right. You watch Jalen and you watch

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Speaker 2: him when he's off, and you go, this is it's

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Speaker 2: hard to function. That game wouldn't have been as close

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Speaker 2: as it was, Colin, if Saquon hadn't busted like this

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Speaker 2: sixty yard run that led him to a touchdown, that

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Speaker 2: was looking like it's going to be like forty to ten,

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Speaker 2: and Saquon just busted a huge run and they scored

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Speaker 2: a touchdown. But that game wasn't remotely close. And when

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Speaker 2: it's off for Jalen, like you said, injuries, literally the

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Speaker 2: whole league's Herbert right now. Yeah, so it's like you

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Speaker 2: still got Dallas Goddard, pro bowler, he still got pro

712
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Speaker 2: ballers on your offensive line, you got Saquon Barkley, you

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Speaker 2: got more than functional wide receivers with I don't think

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Speaker 2: Tampa's exactly got Dion Sanders Dereaux reeves back there right now,

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Speaker 2: and you just watch him. He gets down and you go,

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Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't see it. Like I'm

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Speaker 2: watching perty today and I'm watching Jalen Hurts and I go,

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Speaker 2: I don't even think it's close. Just a guy that

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Speaker 2: calm can make throws, and you watch Jalen and he

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Speaker 2: kind of feels like the guy that you saw at

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma that everyone thought like, is this an NFL quarterback? Now,

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Speaker 2: clearly he's better than that. But once I give him

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Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars, the expectations quadruples, and you watch

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Speaker 2: him and you go, well, I'm watching Baker and I'm

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Speaker 2: watching this guy. It ain't even close. Who's got the

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Speaker 2: better quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Well, I also think here's the reality most quarterbacks. Jaden

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Speaker 1: Daniels is getting really really good coaching. Stam Darnold is

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Speaker 1: not good enough to be really good unless he has

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Speaker 1: an elite coach. I think we can have this opinion

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Speaker 1: on Jalen Hurts. He's simply not talented enough to excel

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Speaker 1: without elite coaching because when he had it, he was good.

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Speaker 1: Darnald has it, and he's good.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: There are guys in this league. You know, Brady worked

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Speaker 1: with Charlie Weiss. He can work with Josh McDaniels. He

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Speaker 1: worked with Bruce Arians, he worked with Todd Bowles. Those

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Speaker 1: are a handful of Manning won trophies with, you know,

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Speaker 1: four different coaches. But there are players in this league

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Speaker 1: that have talent, but they need a special boss. And

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Speaker 1: I think Jalen to me, I've gone from thinking he's

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Speaker 1: special too, I'm thinking he's potentially special with an elite

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Speaker 1: Shane Steichen. And I think I feel the same way

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Speaker 1: about Darnald, Like if you gave him Sam a bad

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Speaker 1: coach Tom in sixty games from now, it wouldn't look

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Speaker 1: this good. Like how about this. Jalen's closer to Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold in that he needs absolutely two or three things

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Speaker 1: for it to work. He's talented, but he's not talented

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Speaker 1: enough to overcome mediocre coaching.

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Speaker 2: I think Kellen Moore is a good coach now. He

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Speaker 2: was a pocket quarterback. He was around Dak for a

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Speaker 2: long time, who essentially is a pocket quarter and last

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Speaker 2: year he worked with Herbert in a pretty chaotic situation

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Speaker 2: with brand Staley. I do think it's tough to overcome

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Speaker 2: just this weird Sirianni situation, Like they basically tell him

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Speaker 2: like stay out of the way, but on game day

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Speaker 2: he's still in charge. You ultimately work for him if

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Speaker 2: you're one of these coordinators, but you kind of don't

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Speaker 2: because what's he really telling you to do, especially if

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Speaker 2: you're Fangio and I think the Eagles tried to pass.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think they thought long and hard last year,

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Speaker 2: clearly after they got just molly wopped in that wild

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Speaker 2: card game against Tampa about firing him and just hiring Belichick.

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Speaker 2: I think that was a long and hard decision. And

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Speaker 2: a lot of times when you make a long and

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Speaker 2: hard decision, I think you could say this about a

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Speaker 2: personal relationship if you're like anything, a break up with

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Speaker 2: her six months later, like I probably should have done

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Speaker 2: it back then, firing somebody, you know, I think it's

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Speaker 2: the same. And I think you're kind of seeing you're

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Speaker 2: always gonna have injuries. But this Sirianni thing is, can

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Speaker 2: you imagine the discussion tomorrow just in Philadelphia, and like

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Speaker 2: these players, the coaches, Howie that they all hear it.

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Speaker 2: It's like no one's like putting their ear muffs on

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Speaker 2: what's going around. It's one of the last cities in

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Speaker 2: America or radio's massive, The local television shows do huge numbers.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles are their Yankees, and you lose it's football

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Speaker 2: that they got bludgeoned by a team that literally just

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Speaker 2: knocked them out of their playoffs and ruined their season,

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Speaker 2: and you might have to see again in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And that's just And I think it gets back to also,

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Speaker 2: Sirianni and the conversation is going to start coming up

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Speaker 2: more as a quarterback good enough? You know, was that

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Speaker 2: year two years ago? Perfect situation, perfect boss, perfect coordinator

785
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Speaker 2: gonna be an outlier year? Cam Newton had one, right,

786
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Speaker 2: the MVP year, Matt Ryan had one, Kyle Shanahan. It

787
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Speaker 2: happens to players. Perfect situation, confidence is high, great coordinator, whatever,

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Speaker 2: and you look back at the course of their career

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Speaker 2: and you go, yeah, he ended up making two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars, but how many great seasons does

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Speaker 2: he have now? Matt Ryan and Cam Newton I think

792
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Speaker 2: are better players than Jalen Hurts. I mean, there's a

793
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Speaker 2: reason one guy went one the other guy went three,

794
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Speaker 2: like Jalen was the second round pick that most people thought,

795
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Speaker 2: like was that a little rich? I thought that, And listen,

796
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Speaker 2: I've been wrong. I thought he was a running back

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Speaker 2: and I didn't think he threw the ball well enough.

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Speaker 2: And he still doesn't throw It's weird. He throws a

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Speaker 2: good deep ball, but he can't. Like you watch Herbert today,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter where his feet are. That thing is he

801
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Speaker 2: could throw a rocket anywhere on the field all angles

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Speaker 2: soak In Mahomes, Jalen simply can't yea if his feet

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Speaker 2: aren't set at the pocket, the ball like flies, It flutters,

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Speaker 2: just it's not a pretty ball. Colin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think there is a reality. Philadelphia is

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Speaker 1: an organization. It's the only organization in the league, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles that fire a lot of coaches and move off quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's chaotic. Maybe it's because they

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Speaker 1: have good ownership and Howie Rose when a good GM.

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Speaker 1: You know, Carolina mose through co but Philadelphia does too.

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Speaker 1: But they were right on Carson Wentz. I think I

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Speaker 1: think Jalen's better in the locker room maybe than Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz was.

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Speaker 2: So you ste guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think he's a really good kid.

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Speaker 1: But I but I think we have to be honest

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Speaker 1: about this. Playing quarterback is hard. He's smaller than you'd like,

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Speaker 1: he gets banged up a little more than you'd like,

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Speaker 1: and he's generally had above average players around him, and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles O line for most of his career has

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Speaker 1: been top five in the league. When aj and DeVante

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Speaker 1: are healthy. They're outstanding, and the tight ends in Philly

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Speaker 1: for they just they're always good. Now he's got Saquon,

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Speaker 1: so you have a very loud city, good well owned,

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Speaker 1: smartly run I'm gonna be less patient. All you can't

826
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Speaker 1: always have. Let's be honest. If you get a great coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Stikin was going to get a job. Tom Telesco when

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Speaker 1: he ran the Chargers told me because Herbert had Stike

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Speaker 1: in his first year. He's like, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: be able to keep this guys. Guy's way too. It's

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Speaker 1: the same with a kid in Houston, Ben Johnson. They

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Speaker 1: thought they lost, but he exit stage right on the plane,

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Speaker 1: got off, it came back. So the truth is you

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Speaker 1: can't have a quarterback in pam a fortune if everything's

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Speaker 1: right now. Is Josh Allen better with Brady than Dorsey,

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Speaker 1: but he's still wildly productive when he didn't have the

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Speaker 1: right guy. And so you get to a point with

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's history is John they're not patient. You shouldn't have

839
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Speaker 1: to have a quarterback. It shouldn't have to be perfect

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Speaker 1: for it to be good. Jesus Rashi Rice out for

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. Their online this year is not very good.

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Speaker 1: Last year they had horrible receivers. No, not everybody as Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: But my take is with Jalen Hurts, is this a

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Speaker 1: guy where everything has to be right, because when healthy,

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Speaker 1: it's almost all right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think also, while the Eagles run through a

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Speaker 2: lot of people, they had two stalwarts on their team

848
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: that were the best two players on each side of

849
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: the ball in Jason Kelsey, who's a first bout Hall

850
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: of Famer, in Fletcher Cox, who's probably a Hall of Famer.

851
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: Those guys were drafted by Andy Reid. I was working

852
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: for the Eagles when both the guys got there. So

853
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: it's like, you lose those two guys they both retire

854
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: this offseason. It kind of all falls on the shoulders

855
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: now of Jalen, you know, and the Sirianni thing. So

856
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: it's like I'm four moving on. Like, if you're not

857
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: good enough, you're not good enough. There's a bottom line business.

858
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: I also think though, you know, the Carson Wentz was

859
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: right at the tipping point when contracts were big, and

860
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: now they're like historically massive. It does get a little

861
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: more difficult with dead cap and signing bonuses, like to

862
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: just cut it off after a year or two. You know,

863
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: like this guy's getting another coach, like when sirianni Let's

864
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: gets fired at the end of the year, which I

865
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: think we'd all bet on right now because this team's

866
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: not going to go to the super Bowl, Like, Jalen's

867
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: getting another year and it'll be very fascinating. Also, like

868
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: how interested are people to work with them? Because it's

869
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: it's kind of complicated, right, He's not just a plug

870
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: and play guy. It's not like Lamar's not either, but

871
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: everyone would have no problem doing that. You know, Jalen's

872
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: like he's fast, but he's not running by everybody. He's

873
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: got a good arm, but he's a little inaccurate at times,

874
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: not that confident as a thrower. So it's you know,

875
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: is that Belichick and Josh McDaniel's written all over you?

876
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: I don't know. But where else is he going? I mean,

877
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Trevor Lawrence barely throwing for one hundred

878
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: and fifty yards, Doug Peterson's owing four. He's gonna get

879
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: ran out of town. These gave that guy two hundred

880
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: million dollars. I mean, yeah, is that just a plug

881
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: and play job? I don't know what this is.

882
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: Let me ask you. Albert Breer told me Friday, keep

883
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: your eye on Jacksonville with Belichick. So if you were

884
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: Belichick and you could have Trevor Lawrence and a very

885
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: rich owner, or Jalen Hurts a loud city on aggressive media,

886
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: because I mean Jacksonville's like a small college town. I

887
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: mean the media is pretty toothless. You get Trevor Lawrence.

888
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: His contract's not outrageous, you know, right yet. I mean

889
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: it's big, but it's not outrageous. The ceiling's low. There's

890
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: not a ton of pressure. I mean, let's be honest. Jacksonville.

891
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: You know, they're occasionally interesting.

892
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: But there is no pressure there.

893
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, or massive pressure. A smaller quarterback, turnover prone, probably

894
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: not as gift. The Jalen Hurts your Belichick both offer,

895
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: which do you take?

896
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: I choose the Eagles in a heartbeat, Like I mean,

897
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm used to that. If I'm Belichick, I was in

898
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 2: Boston for twenty five years. I can handle the bullets

899
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: flying at me. I go to an organization that has

900
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: proven they know what they're doing. You know the thing

901
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: with Jacksonville, Okay, in a year, we'll move off Jalen.

902
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: They still have a lot of other impact high end.

903
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 2: They had a left tackle, they got multiple wide receivers,

904
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: they got Saque under contract, they got young players on

905
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: defense that I like that I could use easily. You

906
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: look at Jacksonville. Everyone goes there and loses. Everybody, Yeah,

907
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: every single person and the cons everyone seems to like

908
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: them in the media. I don't know him personally, but

909
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: everyone goes there and fails and fails hard, and like

910
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: sometimes we have to admit, like Trevor Lawrence got up

911
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: more than Jalen Hurts. I mean they gave him two

912
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars guaranteed in that contract. Like Jalen's is

913
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: starting to kick in, Like this thing kicks in like

914
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: after this year. Right, if you're Trevor Lawrence, he just

915
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: might not be very good Colin. I mean, it just

916
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: might be that simple. We've seen infinitely more at a

917
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts than we have at Trevor Lawrence at this time.

918
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: I would choose Philadelphia in a heartbeat, because one the

919
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: owner has a history of like, I'll do whatever it takes.

920
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: What do you need, coordinators, help you want me to

921
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: rip down a building, build you a new one for

922
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: a facility for the players, he'll do anything where it's

923
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: like I also think if your Bill you kind of

924
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: like the bright lights, you know, your Bill freaking Belichick,

925
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 2: Vince Lombardi, you know this is this go to Jacksonville

926
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: like one. I'm not saying he would choose that, but

927
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: I would hope if it came down to those two,

928
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: he would choose Philadeli.

929
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: All Right, it wasn't pretty and the weather was less

930
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: than ideal. We talked about good spots and bad spots

931
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: for young quarterbacks. I did not think this was a

932
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: good spot for bow Knicks. Denver beats the Jets ten

933
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: to nine. My take, I have two takeaways on this game.

934
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: First of all, I thought it was a great spot

935
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: for the Jets star quarterback, extra time to prepare against

936
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback back to back road games. Instead, Denver brought

937
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: enormous pressure. Aaron Rodgers got banged all day fifteen times,

938
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: multiple sacks, hits. They could not protect him. They had

939
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: I think five either delay of games or offensive penalties

940
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. I thought the Jets looked

941
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: out of sync. Aaron had no time. Aaron took a

942
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: beating today, and that's the second game in a Row

943
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: Denver's defense. Denver's defense, you know they drafted a couple

944
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: of guys on that side. It's it's playing really well.

945
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: I think it's playing over its head. But the bigger,

946
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: my bigger takeaway was undisciplined penalties on the Jets. Maybe

947
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: it's an outlier. Aaron got crushed. They couldn't protect him,

948
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: and that's not an elite defense in the eyes. We're

949
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: not talking Kansas City, even Buffalo Baltimore. And by the way,

950
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: Jets have Minnesota next in London. So this was like,

951
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: get the layups. This was a layup, extra prep time.

952
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: Lose to Denver. This is where Aaron kind of called

953
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: Saula out after the game on some of his stuff.

954
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: Does it go sideways or do you just say bad

955
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: weather game?

956
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: It happens to me when I'm watching the first half.

957
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 2: I went, you know, headed on one of my screens,

958
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: Like the box score means nothing in this game, Right,

959
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: You get a game, it's gonna be weird. You just

960
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: win it and move on. Bo Nicks threw for sixty yards.

961
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: Sixty yards. You cannot lose a game at home. I

962
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: don't care what the weather is. When the opposing quarterback

963
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: who's a rookie making his four start throws for sixty

964
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: yards and they score ten points if you lose, like

965
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: you can't get to twelve or fifteen. And this just

966
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: gets back and even Aaron says after the game, like, yeah,

967
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: the weather was bad in the first half, but I

968
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: was making bad throws. He's running for his life. Yeah,

969
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: I mean there are several times we were like, Aaron,

970
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: you better get ot a bounce and he's running as

971
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: hard as he can to get because they're coming for him.

972
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 2: And you know, this gets back to what a Denver half.

973
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: They have one of, if not the best corner in

974
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: the league, and where they put that guy on their

975
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: best wire receiver, so it was harder for them to operate.

976
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: And some of these other guys they are not exactly

977
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: rolling out. This is not Green Bay. They're not going

978
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: three deep at that position. They're so dependent on him

979
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: and when he couldn't and it was gonna be hard,

980
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: especially in the first half it was just torrential downpour.

981
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: Its hard. You have to win that game. But you

982
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: know what, Colin do They Their head coach is Robert Sala, who,

983
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: now let's just look at his history. Nice guy, not

984
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: winning a lot of games, and we just don't trust

985
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: their coaching staff. So it's like, vance, Joseph's come a

986
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: long way from last year around this time and give

987
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: it up seventy points. This year's doing a really good

988
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: job because, like you said that, they're not exactly rolling

989
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: out Pro bowlers everywhere on defense. But who are you

990
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 2: taking just in a game, bad weather, game, weird situation,

991
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: Sean Payton, Robert Sala even if you don't know the quarterbacks,

992
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: you're taking Sean Payton every day of the week. And

993
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: that was a type game where it's like, well, I

994
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: thought the Jets are supposed to be gritty and tough.

995
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, you're playing the Patriots, and listen, you

996
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: and I and anyone that watch gave Aaron a lot

997
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: of credit. Looked really good. I watched the Patriots play

998
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers a day and the Niners treated

999
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: a thing like a practice in one by twenty. I

1000
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 2: mean things, they're a joke. They're not any good. So okay,

1001
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: you get it's the NFL. You want to win, But like,

1002
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: did we put too much stock in that game? Because

1003
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: I'm watching today it's like, well, where's your grittiness and toughness.

1004
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: This is a type game where your defense gets a

1005
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: couple of touch downs. Weird game, but you win seventeen

1006
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: to ten, but you score nine points nine points like

1007
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: that's just and it comes down to a field goal

1008
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: on a bad weather game that the dude missed.

1009
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: So let's be honest about this. So the Jets offense,

1010
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: outside of a couple plays, was abysmal against the Niners,

1011
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: it struggled against Tennessee, and it was pretty awful today.

1012
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: So we have to be totally honest. It's looked they

1013
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: have looked good. The Jets have looked good on a

1014
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: short week game against Jacoby Brissett and a rookie head

1015
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: coach at home against the Patriots. That's when the Jets

1016
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: looked good. They didn't look good against Tennessee. They won,

1017
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: they got boat raced by San Francisco. They looked awful today.

1018
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: To me, this team has had one really good game

1019
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: against As we watched the Niners hammer New England, the

1020
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: worst team in the league, I think we're over. If

1021
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: the Jets played in Indianapolis, US, you know, I think

1022
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: we don't like their head coach. We know the coordinator

1023
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: is suboptimal. The offensive line today got worked by a

1024
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: hyper aggressive defensive front without a pro bowler. I mean,

1025
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: I just I mean Denver was beat up. I think

1026
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: in the linebacking corps. I mean I watched that game

1027
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, don't be too harsh, but you

1028
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: that is not extra prep and that was the offense.

1029
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: Well, Colin, I understand they're stacking the line of scrimmage,

1030
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: but in a game like that, how is Rogers thrown

1031
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: it forty two times a game they only ran twenty

1032
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 2: three times. Like, that's a game where any good coordinator

1033
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: to me, is running it thirty five times. It would

1034
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: be one thing if you're down seventeen to nothing. They

1035
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: were up after a halftime six to nothing, so it's

1036
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: the game. And then they score at seven to six.

1037
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: Like that's a game where you're running it NonStop. But

1038
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: Aaron gets to play call, Like does he listen to

1039
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: everything that Taniel hacking? I don't blame him because in

1040
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: Aaron's mind, I know more football. I'm smarter than this guy,

1041
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: and the only reason he's there is because of him.

1042
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: It's a very weird dynamic. The whole thing. It's like,

1043
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't feels like Aaron's the superior. But he's there

1044
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: because Aaron wanted him. But it's just I just don't

1045
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: see how you're rushing for twenty like twenty three attempts.

1046
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: Like to me, that number has to be well over

1047
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: thirty in a game like that. It's not to be

1048
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: one thing if he's averaging ten yards to say, hey,

1049
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: they're still being explosive in the weather, They're not. I

1050
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: mean he was dinking and dunking even when he was

1051
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: completing balls partly couldn't even grip the ball. And every

1052
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 2: time he went back there, like you said, by the

1053
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 2: end of the game, like he just hurt his knee.

1054
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's kind of getting up because he's getting paid.

1055
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, he Aaron took a beating. I'll give him credit.

1056
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: Aaron was not short on passion or.

1057
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: He was into it. No, for sure. So many pass

1058
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: plays like just make it easier on the guy. Don't

1059
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: they go too deep at running back? I mean this

1060
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: the backup. The kid from Wisconsin, the twenty one year

1061
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: old is like two hundred and forty pounds. He Raylen

1062
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: Allen had eight carries a day, Like, how does he

1063
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: not get fifteen in that game, in that weather. You

1064
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: and I have lived in the Northeast on a day

1065
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: like that. It's brutal. It's brutal. There's no football going on,

1066
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: let alone slippery. Right, It's that turf in New York

1067
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: that everyone hates. You're asking Aaron to drop back a lot.

1068
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 2: That's a brutal loss. I mean, that is a brutal loss.

1069
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: Even if Denver turns out to be solid, like you,

1070
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: you're going on the road to Minnesota. I think in

1071
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: a in a week they play Pittsburgh. I mean their schedule.

1072
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: I remember looking at it like it's kind of yeah.

1073
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: I mean as they could get. We just do not

1074
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: trust their coaching staff and the NFL. You know, in

1075
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: college you see it all the time, like even when

1076
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: the game plans bad, if you got better players, like

1077
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: you got no shot, like USC, Like they've got way

1078
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: better players in Wisconsin. So even if they're off, like

1079
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: who cares? The NFL is just not like that, Like

1080
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: unless you're the seven Patch or some of these teams

1081
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 2: that are so dramatically talented than the opponent, Like what

1082
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: the hell's the big difference for in New York Jets

1083
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: and Denver Broncos maybe they're better if you just put

1084
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 2: them on a neutral field and beautiful weather, but that's

1085
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: not football and that's not the NFL. So you get

1086
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 2: this spot. It's like, well, Vance Joseph and Sean Payton

1087
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: for the last second half of last year and so

1088
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: far this year like kind of feel like they know

1089
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: what they're doing. And Robert Sala and Thatt Hackett, now

1090
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: we got pretty long evidence that given their spots, like

1091
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: Sala as a defensive coordinator, as a head coach, it

1092
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: just hasn't been great. And it's like this excuse, this excuse,

1093
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: that excuse, Like eventually you either win or you don't.

1094
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, when Sala left, didn't Demiko Ryans take the job

1095
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: and he was better? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So usually,

1096
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 1: if you're a good coordinator and you take a job,

1097
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: you are not replaced by somebody that is viewed as better.

1098
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: Right now, when Demiko left, it was Steve Wilkes that

1099
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: wasn't better. So generally, if you're a hot shot coordinator

1100
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: and get a job, you don't upgrade. And I got

1101
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: nothing against Sla, but I know enough people inside the

1102
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: Niners organization. They looked at Demi Eco as a superstar.

1103
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: But just look at you know, in fairness to Sola,

1104
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: like Dimiko is a superstar, but look at him. He's

1105
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: better in solid defensive coordinator, becomes a head coach immediately,

1106
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: just good last year, makes the playoffs, gonna cruise the

1107
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: playoffs again, Like he just knows what he's doing. And

1108
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: I think it's just one of those jobs either kind

1109
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: of got it or you don't. And we know fast

1110
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 2: and you feel it when a guy walks into the room,

1111
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: like I've been around Andy Reid Harbaugh. You just know it.

1112
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: And Demiko was that guy's a player. When I was

1113
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: with the Eagles, we traded for Demiko, like he just

1114
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: we traded his play. He'd torn his achilles. He wasn't

1115
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: same player, but we valued his intangibles as smarts and

1116
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: it's translated. The guy went from like graduate assistant or

1117
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: quality control to the defensive coordinator in like three years.

1118
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's unheard of it.

1119
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: This guy made millions. So it's like, why are you

1120
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: even coaching Dimiko? It's because I was born to do this,

1121
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 2: and clearly it was Robert Solo. It's just nice guy.

1122
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 2: I think he's a good defensive coordinator, but this whole

1123
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: situation just a lot like the Eagles with Siriani. It

1124
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: just can get weird, and it can get weird fast,

1125
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Speaker 2: and partly because their markets.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Kansas City seventeen, Chargers ten. Yeah.

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01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, you know, because when the

1169
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: game was starting, Jim Nance and Romo were talking about

1170
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: the injuries and you know, Dermy and James Slater Bosa

1171
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: and they were talking about some of the injuries. It's

1172
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that get hurt all the time.

1173
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: And they got off to a seven nothing lead. Herbert

1174
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: to that that Lloyd Maconutee the kid, Oh god, that

1175
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: back of the end zone touchdown throw is just it

1176
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: just that illustrates how hard it is to be a

1177
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: successful quarterback. Chargers had three sacks Surtay, they'd lead seven nothing.

1178
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: You felt like Herbert was limping, but it was working,

1179
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: and you're and you're like, oh, Chargers aren't little bit

1180
01:01:55,080 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: of a hole. But watching my two thoughts were the

1181
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: same Charger players and a couple of Marody Expensive, the

1182
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: same guys are getting hurt all the time. Keenan Allen,

1183
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, Harwall got rid of them. They just weren't healthy.

1184
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: I kind of think they're going to move off Bosa

1185
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: eventually and Derwin James. They're just hurt all the time.

1186
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: Khalil Mack's been really good for them. I mean, he

1187
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: looks fantastic, doesn't.

1188
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: He he Yep. And they've got a couple of pass

1189
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: rushers out there that they they've drafted. Well, they've got

1190
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: some players, But when your same guys are getting hurt,

1191
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: even if they're high profile, I think year two for Harball,

1192
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: maybe at the trade deadline he may move off some

1193
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: more guys. He wants dependability. But as I watched Kansas

1194
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: City and again, Herbert's running first life because they have

1195
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: backups starting on all over the offensive line. I feel

1196
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: like every Kansas City game now looks the same. Everyone

1197
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: is that you know they'll they'll fall in a hole,

1198
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: or you'll watch them early and you're thinking, this isn't

1199
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: the Sunday They just they're they're just not and then

1200
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: Rashee Rice gets hurt very early, and I'm like they're

1201
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: on the road they're out of sync. Chargers had multiple

1202
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: sacks and then they just and I think so much

1203
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: of this is Andy Reid inspects they just slowed the

1204
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: game down. They're really good at killing momentum. Mahomes had

1205
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: a couple of big runs. He had a couple of

1206
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: beautiful passes. Kelsey was more visible today and available. Obviously,

1207
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: with Rastee Rice out, Travis Kelcey becomes more available. But

1208
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: there is something about Kansas City is that we tend

1209
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 1: to love flash like Darnold's numbers, and I like Kansas City.

1210
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: But I ask you, if they played Minnesota tomorrow, I

1211
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: would take Kansas City. What are we supposed to make

1212
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: of this team that isn't pretty? Every single game is close.

1213
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who the opponent is. They don't start

1214
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: necessarily well, they always end great. Do you worry at

1215
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: all that Kansas City is sort of following in this

1216
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of a fulfilling prophecy. It's they're just winning

1217
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: the same way and they're not playing particularly well for

1218
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: long periods of time.

1219
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like Spags Nandy are just like you know,

1220
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: you fill up refrigerator and they're making meal after meal

1221
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: and every time they're using different ingredients. You're like, how

1222
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 2: are you doing this? Eventually, if you don't go to

1223
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 2: the store, you're gonna run out stuff to make food with.

1224
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: And today after Mahomes, he threw a pretty bad pick

1225
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: early in the game Eric Carol Kelsey and then he

1226
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: hit He didn't mean to, but Rashi Rice is their

1227
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: best receiver and he kind of ended up hitting him

1228
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: like he's John Lynch because he was trying to make

1229
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: a tackle, might have blown out his knee. Like that's

1230
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: so you let's just hypothetically say he's gone for a

1231
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: long period of time or the season. That's pretty devastating.

1232
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: They were playing with Kareem Hunt. This is not twenty eighteen.

1233
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: He's back on the team because they're starting running back

1234
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: just broke his leg and the other kid from Missouri,

1235
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: his own family threw a wedding last Sunday because they

1236
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: didn't even think the guy was gonna be an NFL player.

1237
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: So I just I don't know, like, it's remarkable what

1238
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: they're doing, and they've been playing like this basically for

1239
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: two and a half years now. He does feel eventually,

1240
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: like I love these guys and they are It's truly

1241
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: one of the great runs of my lifetime any sport.

1242
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: What they're rattling off now these over this five years,

1243
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: but specifically these two years. I don't know how you

1244
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: can maintain this. Eventually, you're gonna obviously they're gonna lose

1245
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: some games this year, but like they're margin foreir in

1246
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: a playoff game, it's just very, very difficult for them

1247
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: to score. And Mahomes cannot and you saw Andy get

1248
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: kind of mad ely you cannot turn the ball over,

1249
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: you know, And I think Andy felt right away like

1250
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: this Charger team came to play this Jim Harbaugh, They're ready,

1251
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: like this could be fifteen to thirteen final score, and

1252
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 2: he airmails it and steal fumbles and it's like you

1253
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: could tell Andy was pissed because this has to be

1254
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: a flawless We hold onto the ball, even if we're

1255
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: gonna score fourteen points total, Okay, we'll win at fourteen

1256
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: to ten. We can't hate them. The ball at their

1257
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 2: own thirty yard line. And I think if the two

1258
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 2: tackles are there, Chiefs easily could have lost today. I mean,

1259
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: they are holding on. It's it's competitive character, the toughness,

1260
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: it's it's what you get out of like some of

1261
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: those late nineties Bulls teams, some of those Curry Clay

1262
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: Draymond teams. Like it's only they're the only team in

1263
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: the league that has this in the back to keep

1264
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: doing this, like eventually just drop a game. Whatever. They

1265
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 2: just they refuse to lose. They got nothing. I mean,

1266
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: they're best receivers carted off the field five minutes into

1267
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: the game. They're riding Kareem Hunt. Well, I'm pretty sure

1268
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't even in the league like three weeks ago,

1269
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: but they had no choice because the other guy broke

1270
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: his leg. Yeah.

1271
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: No, as I watched that game, they got I mean, listen,

1272
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: they got they got an injury break. The Chargers are

1273
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: missing tackles, Abosa, Derwin j They were missing their best

1274
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: athletes defensively, and you know it's the NFL. You have

1275
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: to make up for that. But I as I watched them,

1276
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: you know they're going.

1277
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: It's a tough it's a tough opponent for that because

1278
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 2: their defense, Chris Jones and Spags, they just kept on

1279
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: any long third and long, they would just put ninety

1280
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 2: five over one of the tackles, even though he's a

1281
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. So it's like, yeah, I just become a

1282
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: defensive They wouldn't do that with Alton Slater in the game,

1283
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: that's right. So it was a total mismatch. You're just

1284
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: you just kind of screwed.

1285
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: And I think what they do with Chris Jones. There's

1286
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: no rigidity with the Chiefs. Like you know, the saying

1287
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: I use all the time at the volume to everybody

1288
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: is don't worry about being right, get it right, don't

1289
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: get stubborn on stuff. It's a fluid business. Change The Chiefs,

1290
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: like you said, they go into the cupboard and whatever

1291
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,479
Speaker 1: is available they use. Like they're not a rigid franchise, which,

1292
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: by the way, New England became in their dominance. I mean,

1293
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: Belichick basically took over the drafts. Belichick only wanted to

1294
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: coach players he liked to coach. They got very rigid.

1295
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: They started buying into their own stuff. And by the way,

1296
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: Greg Popovich, you know I'm not going to deal with Kawhi,

1297
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: well you probably should. He's great. The danger of the danger.

1298
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: One of the things I always respect about Saban. He

1299
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: just kept hiring great coaches. He went from a defensive

1300
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: culture to a quarterback wide receiver culture. Saban was just like,

1301
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: whatever wins wins. And I always said that that's really

1302
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: different with Saban. He doesn't have Belichick's ego. He was

1303
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: willing to just pivot off guys, move into guys. I mean,

1304
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: good God, in the middle of a national championship, gave

1305
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: me changes quarterbacks. Saban was whatever wins works. I feel

1306
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: with Andy Reid, I get that, I get I don't

1307
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: feel like there's this definitive sort of moral standard, this saying,

1308
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, just do your job. Kansas City doesn't have

1309
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: one of those. They don't have to do your job right,

1310
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: they don't have one. Well, they just they do what

1311
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: they have to do in this series to score.

1312
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Andy what makes him pretty special is

1313
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 2: every guy knows you got to do your job because

1314
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: he will cut your trade you. But he doesn't talk

1315
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 2: like that. I mean, this is a California kid at

1316
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: his core. He wore sandals, right, You see Nick? When

1317
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: do you ever see Nick Saban? Not? I mean most

1318
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 2: of the time in a suit, but if not in

1319
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: a suit, slacks, in a polo. You see Andy's in

1320
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: rainbow sandals. You know he's he vacations, you know he's

1321
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: a beach guy. La so I think that's kind of

1322
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: his core and his personality. But he has high standards

1323
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: and I think that's set by their core leaders in Mahomes,

1324
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 2: Jones and Kelsey. Now I do think they benefit. Is

1325
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,919
Speaker 2: a league watered downs the wrong way, but it's definitely

1326
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 2: not as top heavy because the Bills and Ravens play tonight. Well,

1327
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: Chiefs been beating them for years right in big games,

1328
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: so it's not like Mahomes Nandy would be intimidated in

1329
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 2: those spots. But who else are they really worried about? Right?

1330
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: The Steelers? No? Well, I think you think Justin Fields

1331
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 2: is beating them, It have to be Buffalo and lamar

1332
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: In that in a game to beat the Chiefs would

1333
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: have to be awesome thrown the ball because they are

1334
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 2: not going to let him run around. They just are. Yeah.

1335
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: I think that's why Buffalo this year is interesting because

1336
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: they have a legitimate running game and they're much less

1337
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen reliant. They have two excellent tight ends and

1338
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: excellent running back and so I feel like.

1339
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: Houston would be the wild card too. I would say that.

1340
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't trust Houston not. I think when Joe Mixon's healthy,

1341
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: they're tough they're a tough out. I think as good

1342
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 1: as C. J. Stroud is. We saw it with KAYLEB Williams. Today,

1343
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks need to run game just changes everything. I mean,

1344
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: I love what Jayden Daniels is doing, but they're running

1345
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: the hell out of the ball. At Washington he's getting

1346
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of second and fours, third

1347
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: and one. It just opens up everything. And so I

1348
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 1: think I think Buffalo finally has given Josh James. Cook's

1349
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: a real running back. He's explosive. So I think that's

1350
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: the play. But I just again, I'll go back to

1351
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: it when I watch Kansas City. Generally with dynasties, we

1352
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: get this. You know, Durant shows up in Golden State

1353
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: for three years, they look different, Bama Saban looked different.

1354
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: Georgia for a couple of years, looked at front. I mean, hell,

1355
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 1: last year Michigan was so dominant they didn't throw the

1356
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: ball on the road against rivals and beat Penn State.

1357
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: It looks like a dynasty. If you just saw the

1358
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: Chiefs on a week to week basis and had to

1359
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: guess who's the best team in the league, you wouldn't

1360
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 1: put HM in the top six. Like, I mean, Mahomes

1361
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: makes a terrible throw. I mean, they got so lucky

1362
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: today he threw a pick, then the guy fumbled down

1363
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: the sideline, Like, I mean, it's just here, doesn't look

1364
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: like it should.

1365
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: This year, they're not going to have enough. But over

1366
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 2: the next couple of years, if you were on the

1367
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: bus with Andy going back, he go that guy, Jim

1368
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 2: Harbaugh is going to have that team looking like ours.

1369
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: And you felt it today, like and they just ran

1370
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: out of gas and Herbert limping around and think about

1371
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this Watson Alabama game. Three of

1372
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 2: the last four games, Kaylin dw Borr has worked Kirby Smart,

1373
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian, and Dan Lanning. The one guy kicked his ass. Now,

1374
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: granted Michigan was a lot better than Washington was hardball

1375
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: bors destroying these other guys. They're all making ten to

1376
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 2: twelve million and running college football. And Jim Harbaugh has

1377
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: proven you see that stats the first time ever a

1378
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: reigning national champion had played the reigning Super Bowl champion.

1379
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 2: You know, I think there's a fifty to fifty chance

1380
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 2: Jim Arbaugh wins a Super Bowl one Like he's that

1381
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: level of a guy yeah, it was. It was awesome

1382
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: to watch his team today just come out like they

1383
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: were there to brawl and they were not. And how

1384
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: much money did they have sitting in the suite? Three

1385
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars, right, I mean, so it's just wait

1386
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: till they, over the next couple of years are able

1387
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: to build it up. Andy's been in Kansas City how

1388
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: long now, eleven years? Like it's gonna take him a

1389
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: couple of years. But if they can keep Herbert healthy,

1390
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: that thing's gonna be real because that style, the exactly

1391
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: what the Chiefs are doing always translates tackle everybody, rush

1392
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 2: the passer, run the ball, and have a good quarterback

1393
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: who just it's weird, like he wants a game manager

1394
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 2: with but with the that type skill set. Because I

1395
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: watch Herbert today and I don't know what his box

1396
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 2: score was, and I bet half the people talking about

1397
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 2: it will be like he's overrated, Like I don't know

1398
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 2: what you're talking about that guy. I'd take that guy

1399
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: on my team any day of the week, and twice

1400
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: on Sundays.

1401
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 1: All right, I want to have one college opinion. So

1402
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: I watched you know, some Alabama Georgia and so Carson

1403
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: Beck coming into the year, felt like the no doubt

1404
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: about it. Number one pick. He had three picks. Brock

1405
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: Bowers is so talented. I mean people have asked Kirby smart.

1406
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of conversations with people about brock

1407
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: Bowers when he was going to get drafted, and people

1408
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: would call Kirby smart and they would ask him, what

1409
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: do you think of your tight end brock Bowers? And

1410
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: He's like, listen, man, we're Georgia. We have good players.

1411
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: There's nothing on the planet like. Yeah, when you watch

1412
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: George's quarterback without brock Bowers and Lad mcconkeye, okay, a

1413
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: great player, but when you watch him without that safety

1414
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: valve brock Bowers, There's no way I could draft Carson

1415
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 1: Beck number one. Absolutely no way. Now, I think quinn

1416
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: Ewers is really interesting. Shoudur Sanders is a talent. Do

1417
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: you want to deal with the other stuff? I'm not sure.

1418
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: I think cam Ward's insane, but it's I watched that

1419
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: George Obama game and I'm thinking, I'm sorry we didn't

1420
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: think it was a good quarterback class. I think cam

1421
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 1: Ward and quinn Ewers you cannot watch. I thought Carson

1422
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: Beck just does not look like a number one guy

1423
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: on the board. You take away that tight end weapon

1424
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 1: and that slot weapon, they still have the best talent

1425
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: in the country. It that was my take on that

1426
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: game is I thought I picked Alabama to win. I

1427
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: thought Bama would win. It got very close at the end.

1428
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: There was a million plays in the second half. I mean,

1429
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: you could talk about that game for four days. But

1430
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: that was my take is that cam Ward is becoming

1431
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: with quinn Ewers, they're becoming the top two picks.

1432
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I hadn't really Georgia's last couple of years.

1433
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: They don't play in any meaningful games so the end

1434
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,799
Speaker 2: of the season, but these last two weeks against Kentucky

1435
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: and Alabama, this guy looked completely over whelmed. I mean,

1436
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: they easily could have lost to Kentucky. You actually might

1437
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: be pretty good beat Ale miss And then last night,

1438
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: to me, those fifty to fifty balls in the second half,

1439
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: like that's not NFL football. In the first half when

1440
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 2: it was on and he had to drive the ball

1441
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: and fit it into windows, he looked completely overwhelmed. Now

1442
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: it's not saying he's not talented, he's not an NFL player,

1443
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 2: but to me, he's like a second or third round pick.

1444
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 2: I couldn't take that guy in the first round. Are

1445
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: you insane? Have we seen? And like you said, all

1446
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 2: these guys had him on the top of the board,

1447
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: and these last couple of weeks you're watching them and

1448
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pressure and you go, eh, it's

1449
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 2: not I don't care how many yards you throw for

1450
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 2: when you're down thirty three to fifteen. I'm sorry that

1451
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: the defense isn't quite playing like they were when it

1452
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: was seven nothing or fourteen nothing in the first quarter

1453
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 2: and it's all on the line. The lights are the brightest.

1454
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: And the airthing John. When you watch Quinn viewer's arm strength.

1455
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: There's YouTube videos of him in high school. It leads

1456
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: like a pro. When he's like seventeen. The ball flies

1457
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: out of Quinn Youwer's hands. He was just sort of

1458
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: lifestyle diet. He was just undisciplined.

1459
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: He had like a J.

1460
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: Cutler feelure, like does he love football? He's kind of

1461
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 1: a mess. Well Sarks got him buttoned up. That ball

1462
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: flies out of his hand. Cam Ward's electric with a

1463
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: good arm and shadur Is, I mean, the kid is

1464
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: weirdly accurate throwing off one foot.

1465
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: These last two weeks for Shador, Like if you want

1466
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: to make the argument for him to go number one,

1467
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 2: to come off that win, a little bit of a

1468
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: miracle win. What happened the next week, you can either

1469
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: like could they lay an egg here? They came and

1470
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 2: blitz those guys and he was making throws. His talent

1471
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: compared to Carson Beck's talent is not not even close.

1472
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 2: Not in the same conversation like the Carson I mean

1473
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: Texan With scouts last night, I was like, where is

1474
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: this guy? First rounder?

1475
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: Like?

1476
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 2: Where's he going?

1477
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: Is?

1478
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: Like there was a lot of everyone's watching this thing,

1479
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: the entire league, the scouts. I can't even imagine how

1480
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: many scouts were in attendance. A lot of people. You

1481
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 2: could the box score at the end of the game.

1482
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 2: I'll promise you a lot of scouts leave to go

1483
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: home in the third quarter. Watched the fourth quarter in

1484
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 2: the on TV like that. That first half is something

1485
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: you'll never forget if you were an attendance or you

1486
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 2: were GM watching at your hotel room. You can't. You

1487
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 2: can't unforget that, you really can't. And I how good

1488
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: does Kailan do? Bore Well?

1489
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend that's a booster at

1490
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: the University of Washington, and I think Jed Fish is

1491
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: a good coach. But if you go to last year's

1492
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: team that played for the national championship, all their talent

1493
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: was on offense. It was all on offense. They just

1494
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of I mean, they had a

1495
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 1: decent defensive tackle that I think the Rams got undrafted

1496
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: free agent. They had one good corner. Huskies always have

1497
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: pretty good corners. But it was just like Kaylan got

1498
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: a team. Kailin didn't win nine games there. He beat

1499
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: Oregon three straight times in two years. Oregon had better players,

1500
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: and we think Dan Lanning's a good coach.

1501
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: Was nine. He was a nine point underdog in the

1502
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: Pac twelve Championship last year against Oregon and a five

1503
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 2: point underdog against Sark.

1504
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: And it just Kaylan de boor there is. This is

1505
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: a reference that people will forget Don James, but I

1506
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: grew up with Don James as the Husky coach, and

1507
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: Saban credits Don James for his early coaching acumen. And

1508
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: Washington never lost a game they should have. They always

1509
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: won the games and they often pulled up sets. I

1510
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: don't think there is before the game starts. He may

1511
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: create the best game plans. Like some coaches are good

1512
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: adjustment coaches. Some coaches are great recruiters. A lot of

1513
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: these college guys can recruit. They're not great play creators,

1514
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: play callers. Lane Kiffin is, but he can also recruit.

1515
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: Lane's pretty good coach. But Klin de Boor's ability to

1516
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: get three star athletes turn them into four and five

1517
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: star players, so he can recruit, he can develop. His

1518
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: game plans are insane. I mean they they just every

1519
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: time they played Oregon first three series, Oregon's in a hole.

1520
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Georgia had one of what forty two straight

1521
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: regular season games. It was over. He may create the

1522
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: best game plan. And some guys are just great in

1523
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: the film room. They're just they're film room wizards. But

1524
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I bet bet Alabama winning the first half,

1525
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean for for the next eight years, because that's

1526
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 1: what he did at Washington. And and by the way,

1527
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: in Washington didn't have anything close to Bama's talent.

1528
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 2: You know what he is, He's a he's an extension

1529
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 2: because this guy, you know, was just kind of over

1530
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 2: it and had opportunities to go different places after Washington

1531
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: and didn't. But he's Chris Peterson. If Chris Peterson had

1532
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 2: chose to go to the SCA. He's just he's intense

1533
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: in the sense of like high standards. There's not people

1534
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 2: aren't screwing around, and there's an intellectual capacity there that

1535
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: is higher than basically everyone he's going up against. Like

1536
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Kirby, high level guy. His resume speaks for itself,

1537
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 2: but just in terms of schematics, like I'm taking to

1538
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 2: bore you know what I mean, I just I just am.

1539
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 2: And it's an offensive sport. Even Nick has admitted to that.

1540
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 2: So Kirby's just had a disadvantage. You just take the

1541
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: offensive coaches, right, I mean, look at sark get Ryan Day.

1542
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 2: It's an offensive sport, especially in college. But Kaylin Duboor,

1543
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 2: I think it's the total package of he clearly knows

1544
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: what he's doing, like it's undebatable now, but his offensive prowess,

1545
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 2: which I was like, what's he gonna look like without

1546
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 2: his guy Ryan Grubb that goes to Seattle, Oh, exactly

1547
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 2: the same. I mean to be up twenty eight, nothing

1548
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 2: like that at home against it's borderline impossible to follow

1549
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: a Vince Lombardi or a Nick Saban or John Wooden.

1550
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: I don't think it could go any smoother after last night.

1551
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 2: For that guy, Nick's already given him his blessing. You

1552
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 2: eventually have to do it. But to work Kirby like that,

1553
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 2: you can't convince me that was a close game. It

1554
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: was thirty three to fifteen with ten minutes to go

1555
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: in the game. They hit a couple of big plays.

1556
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 2: Now it ultimately Bama had to hit a big play,

1557
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: which they did, but that was that was domination Colin.

1558
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: That was to come out like that at home. I

1559
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: means he getting on track extension at the end of

1560
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 2: the year. I know he just got hired, but I mean,

1561
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: how do you do how do you go from Nick

1562
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 2: Saban to that? How lucky are they? Well?

1563
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: And he's also smart because he inherited momentum, and I

1564
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: think what he did he inherited momentum. I mean he's

1565
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: termed Jalen Milroll. Like I never thought Jalen Milroll was

1566
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: a pro, and I watched him and I'm like, Jesus

1567
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: efficient throws a pretty deep ball. I mean, there's just

1568
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: something in his coaching. Michael Pennix, you could see very

1569
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: quickly through a beautiful ball left hander A lot of

1570
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: scouts don't like. But it was pretty clear earlier, like

1571
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: Pennix throws, he's like a bigger tu The ball's too pretty,

1572
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: so he's gonna get drafted. I didn't when I watched

1573
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroll, I was like, kind of athletic. His game

1574
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: is cleaned up, like.

1575
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: Had him looking like Josh Allen in the first quarter

1576
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 2: last night. Would you rather have Jalen Milroe in the

1577
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: third round or Carson Beck in the first? I know

1578
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: which one I'd choose. Yeah.

1579
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: So I was having this conversation with something today and

1580
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: I said, I just you know, once again, coaching, it

1581
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: could be the vikings on both sides. It can be

1582
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 1: what's happening in Washington. I mean, Jesus gives Sean Payton

1583
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: credit on a You know, it's a short week. When

1584
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: you play on the road, go home, although I think

1585
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 1: they stayed out East, but it's hard. I mean, sometimes

1586
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: you're at a disadvantage. You have Aaron Rodgers, I have

1587
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: bow Nicks. You're at home. I'm on the road. That's

1588
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: a disadvantage. You pull a win out like that. Coaching

1589
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: is just bigger than we think.

1590
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: I know, we got to get out of here, but

1591
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 2: I think it takes I don't think many people could

1592
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 2: walk into the shoes of Saban. He's still around. I

1593
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: mean he lives in the town. Obviously, he does the

1594
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,520
Speaker 2: game day stuff, but it feels like he's always around Alabama.

1595
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: That cannot be. He recruited half the team. He just

1596
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 2: coached Jalen Milroll last year to the playoffs, had Michigan

1597
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: on the ropes. That guy still going to games. He's

1598
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 2: been to several games this year. That's that's not easy.

1599
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 2: I mean this guy, I mean, he's borderline Jesus in

1600
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 2: the state of Alabama, and that's who you're taking over for.

1601
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: And to have it go like this because I think

1602
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 2: they got a guy who is secure enough in himself

1603
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: because he's nothing like Nick. He's not a screamer in

1604
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 2: a yeller. He's much at all, like I said with

1605
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 2: Chris Peterson, much more cerebral, much more mellow. But he's

1606
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 2: so good schematically. At the end of the day, the

1607
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: highest level players in college you can either resonate with them. Now,

1608
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 2: Nick's a great scheme guy too, but Nick was so

1609
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: intense they were kind of scared this guy just knows

1610
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 2: everything that's going on football wise. How do they not listen?

1611
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 2: They clearly are and it's working. I mean, it's not

1612
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 2: out of the realm possibility that they're in the National

1613
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 2: Championship Game? Is it? After what we just witnessed last night?

1614
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: No. I think if I had to guess today, I

1615
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: would say Texas, Ohio State, and Bama look different. And

1616
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: I think, I think what happened to George, I didn't

1617
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: think it would look like that, But I.

1618
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: I don't look at them the same with their quarterback,

1619
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: like you could tell me they'd losing the Elite eight

1620
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 2: or whatever. However the brackets are now.

1621
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. John Middlecock, former NFL Scout three and ounce his podcast.

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01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Bud, take it easy, con.

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01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: The volume. Thanks so much for listening. If you've enjoyed

1624
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,080
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