WEBVTT - The Breakfast Club talks with Rush Limbaugh

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<v Speaker 1>What if everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>We are the breakfast club. Now we are fed up,

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<v Speaker 1>We're angry, hurt and tired. The country is wounded. The

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<v Speaker 1>phrase I can't breathe is embedded in our minds forever.

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<v Speaker 1>The inhumane treatment and senseless murder of George Floyd has

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<v Speaker 1>to be the final straw. This was not the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>but this has to be where it stops. For almost

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, we have been the voice of our community,

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<v Speaker 1>working to push our culture forward, focusing on educating our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners on entrepreneurship, real estate, mental health, education, and the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of being politically engaged and informed. We have always

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<v Speaker 1>had diverse guests and are open to the tough conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>In that spirit, today we are having a candid conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with fellow broadcaster Rush Limbaugh. Why are we having this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with someone whose historical viewpoints differ so significantly from

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<v Speaker 1>ours and who we represent, because the dialogue has to

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<v Speaker 1>be open beyond who we know or who we talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>Every morning. Today, Russia's listeners will hear us, probably for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time ever, what we are witnessing in our

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<v Speaker 1>nation right now is not normal, and it compels our

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<v Speaker 1>attention to understand every side and look for ways to

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<v Speaker 1>bring this country together and stop the senseless killing of

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<v Speaker 1>our people. So we will start with a conversation that

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<v Speaker 1>we think might be the first step. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>Rush Limbaugh. Every Democrat candidate for president this year has

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<v Speaker 1>made it their business to appear on the Breakfast Club,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's it's my honor to appear on the

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club. Excuse me, even though I'm not a Democrat. Now, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>can I tell you why I wanted to The George

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd story is being lost right. There are two things

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<v Speaker 1>happening in America, and it sickens me what happened to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Legitimate national outrage about a policeman's criminality has been hijacked.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to forget about George Floyd. What

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<v Speaker 1>happened to George Floyd sickened me, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>reach out and tell you all this. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you have no doubt, and I'm not the

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<v Speaker 1>only American who feels this way, the senselessness of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're only given one life. We don't get

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<v Speaker 1>to do over we only get one. We all take

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<v Speaker 1>it for granted because it just happened. We're born, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember that. But George Floyd had his taken

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<v Speaker 1>away from him. He didn't lose it, he had it

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<v Speaker 1>taken away from him in a stupid way. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think most Americans are just as angry and sad about

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<v Speaker 1>this as I am. And I'm also angry to cops

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<v Speaker 1>that stood around there and didn't do it thing to

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<v Speaker 1>stop it. It was just I can't tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated it is, and I just I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>share the emotion I have with you guys about this

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<v Speaker 1>and to try to convey to you that I actually

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<v Speaker 1>think most Americans are just as sickened and outraged by

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<v Speaker 1>it as I am. Yeah, And you know what, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the worst things is that I feel like we're

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<v Speaker 1>so accustomed to being in these situations where we get frustrated,

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<v Speaker 1>where nothing happens, and these police officers are back out

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing over and over again. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the frustration is this is not an isolated incident.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that's been happening in our community for

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't stopped. We don't see when it will stop,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think people are frustrated, and it's a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of so many different things. Right now, Well, that's I

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<v Speaker 1>think absolutely absolutely right. If you look at the the

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<v Speaker 1>actual circumstance here, you had what happened to him, It's

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<v Speaker 1>on video. You've got the cop, the cop standing there

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<v Speaker 1>almost looking like he's bragging or having fun exerting power.

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<v Speaker 1>How stupid is the cop? Can the cop not be

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<v Speaker 1>aware of what we in this country are going through

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<v Speaker 1>precisely because of what he's doing at that moment? How

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<v Speaker 1>can anybody be that in sense? So they've or stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beyond me to understand. It almost felt like that

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<v Speaker 1>the more that people were telling him that he was

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<v Speaker 1>killing him and that it was blood coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>his nose and that he was lifeless, but he really

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<v Speaker 1>felt like just looking at his face, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was probably the closest thing to a devil that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen in my life. It was his ego that

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<v Speaker 1>just allowed him to keep applying pressure and applying pressure

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<v Speaker 1>and taking that man's life. I can't let me answer

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<v Speaker 1>your question, Russ Charlomagne talking, We've seen numerous police killings

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<v Speaker 1>of one armed black people in this country. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>the George Floyd's situation the one that's making you say,

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<v Speaker 1>enough is enough and this needs to stop. Why why

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<v Speaker 1>is this situation in particular because I'm fed up with

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I mean, I'm not tolerant of any

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<v Speaker 1>of them, but I'm I'm just I'm fed up with it. Charlomagne,

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<v Speaker 1>none of this to me, And I know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to disagree with me on this. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not America. It's a it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a sad. Oh no, it's definitely America. Well, I see,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's not what we can be. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>what we have been. We're the greatest nation of history

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, and we haven't achieved that on the

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<v Speaker 1>basis of mood over us or not. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think that. I think it's easy for you to say

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<v Speaker 1>because you're you're a white male and that comes with

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<v Speaker 1>a different level of privilege. And I do think America

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<v Speaker 1>does work, but it works for the people that it

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<v Speaker 1>was designed to work for. It doesn't work for everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else the way it works for you. Well, it can,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the point of America. It can for anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to adapt to it, for anybody who wants to

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<v Speaker 1>try to take advantage of the unique opportunities that exist

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. We're the only nation that's ever

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<v Speaker 1>enshrined the concept of individual liberty and freedom and are

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<v Speaker 1>founding documents. We're the only country that's ever created a

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<v Speaker 1>document to govern ourselves by that limits government. Now, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's you know, I look, but George Floyd wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything wrong. Brianna Taylor got killed in her house.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't doing anything wrong. And so it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>people haven't adapted to things. It's just that we get

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<v Speaker 1>targeted and then there's no punishment when the police officers

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<v Speaker 1>commit these crimes against us. No, no, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to conflate that George Floyd could have

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<v Speaker 1>stopped what was going to happen to him. I don't misunderstand.

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd is the essence of innocence. But what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying is is that America is a place with robust

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity if you want to go out and look for

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<v Speaker 1>it and find it. Now, the people ripping up the

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<v Speaker 1>streets today and last night, the Antifa types. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>care to find the they disagree with the whole constructive about. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta push back on you with that too. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the antif for types. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>like you see all these white folks out there protesting

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<v Speaker 1>luten raising. Hell, you know what I'm saying, Let's not

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<v Speaker 1>act like there isn't forty million people who have filed

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<v Speaker 1>for unemployment in America. Folksmen sitting around the last three

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<v Speaker 1>months waiting on stimulus checks. Than forty four percent of

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<v Speaker 1>those people who have been denied unemployment checks are still

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<v Speaker 1>waiting on them to come. People of all races are broke.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know where their next meal from. Their savings

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<v Speaker 1>are exhausted if they had any, They don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna pay bills. So of course they're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>out there in loot. Of course they're angry and frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out unnecessarily, there's no reason to shut down

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<v Speaker 1>the country, and there's no reason to lock everybody. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you put forty million people out of work and tell them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you penalize them when they do try to

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<v Speaker 1>open their businesses. You're gonna create a powder keg. A

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<v Speaker 1>powder keg has been created. But that's right, That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. That's why I can't. That's why I can't

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<v Speaker 1>allow you to say that it's just Antifa out there,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is a lot of white people who are fair.

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<v Speaker 1>But the anti people, the Antifa people, are the violent ones.

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<v Speaker 1>The Antifa people are the ones that are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>capitalize on it. There's, of course, there's some legitimate, heartfelt

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<v Speaker 1>people out there peacefully protesting. But look you guys, let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you, you are a testament to the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>available in America. Look at you. How did you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you have to overcome to become a breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>club and why did you have to overcome become dominant

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<v Speaker 1>in morning drive in American radio? Who held you back

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<v Speaker 1>or what were you able to overcome in order to

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<v Speaker 1>do it? The opportunity is there is the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Right. But you know, you talk about peacefully,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about peacefully protests, right, And you were very

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<v Speaker 1>opinionated about Colin Kaepernick, and he was peacefully protesting, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And now what people are saying, oh, they're not peacefully protesting.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the same thing Colin Kaepernick was kneeling for

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<v Speaker 1>that the world was so upset about and the world said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's taking it too far and he doesn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking about. This is exactly the reason why he

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<v Speaker 1>was kneeling in protesting the fact that an unarmed African

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<v Speaker 1>American man was doing nothing. They still don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>if he had a fake ten twenty dollar bill and not.

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<v Speaker 1>He and that man kneeled on George Floyd for damned

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<v Speaker 1>in nine minutes and killed that man, murdered that man

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<v Speaker 1>and looked at us like, yeah, I'm doing it, and

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<v Speaker 1>what you guys, I'm trying to tell you, I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I'm one thousand percent with you on This

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<v Speaker 1>is why I wanted to talk to you because I

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<v Speaker 1>know that that there are you know, we all have

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<v Speaker 1>preconceptions that we live under and biases that we live under,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to reach out to you guys, specifically me.

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<v Speaker 1>You were you were the ones that I was told

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<v Speaker 1>to speak to that that this is intolerable. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to have the conversation and I'm glad you're having it

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<v Speaker 1>because I think your audience needs to hear it. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you said something a little while ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to just, you know, talk about that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is a country America that denies you know,

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<v Speaker 1>black people justice and just playing decency. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>act like we're just supposed to be happy to be

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<v Speaker 1>here because it allows a few of us. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>did I say, majority of us out here catch what

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<v Speaker 1>you said? You said? You said, you know, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>made it. Y'all are successful, you know what I'm saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>But but the rest of us are catching hell out here?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? George Floyd and isolated and Charlotte Man, you're

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<v Speaker 1>adding things to my mouth that I did and say

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<v Speaker 1>you're adding syllables I have not uttered. I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be complimentary of you, and I'm trying to illustrate

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<v Speaker 1>that you are an example to others that want to

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<v Speaker 1>try you can succeed. Let me ask a question. If

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Vikings had announced two nights in combing they

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna hire Colin Kaepernick, would the riots have stopped? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go about that. What I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you guys Kaepernick, his name is Kaepernick, and the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I brought him up to do and I'm just asking

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<v Speaker 1>if the Vikings had signed him, would that would the

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<v Speaker 1>people have been this, Oh good, Okay, it's got a gang.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're not gonna protest because that's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>stop white supremacy. That's not gonna stop racism. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta all right, Peter, George Floyd. But this that was

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<v Speaker 1>not an Isola incident. This is a regular occurrence. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me add black people in this country. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>how that? Being don't want to change the system, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you A question for you? You? I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know if how are you going to use your privilege

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<v Speaker 1>of the white male to combat this prejudice? You you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do side. I don't. I don't buy in no way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't buy the notion of white privilege. See. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a liberal that's a liberal political constract right

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<v Speaker 1>along the lines of political correctness, is designed to intimidate

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<v Speaker 1>and get people shut up and admit they're guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>doing things they haven't done. No, I don't have I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any No. You know what white privilege is.

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<v Speaker 1>White privilege is that what would happen to George Floyd

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<v Speaker 1>would not have happened to a white man. Right if

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<v Speaker 1>if if what happened to George Floyd had happened to

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<v Speaker 1>a white man, we probably wouldn't even have heard about it. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely would have heard about it. You definitely would

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<v Speaker 1>have been you definitely would you definitely George. People get

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<v Speaker 1>killed by if George. There's a lot of instances where

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<v Speaker 1>this does happen and we don't hear about it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times that there's no video that exists,

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<v Speaker 1>and then people are police officers lie and they say

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<v Speaker 1>this is what happened, just like we've seen it happen

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<v Speaker 1>so many different times where fortunately there was video. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cases that won't make it that he

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<v Speaker 1>about virus. You never hear about that, never make it

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<v Speaker 1>the TV, that never make it to social media. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I said, guys, I said, if George

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd were white, we wouldn't have heard of this, And

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<v Speaker 1>if the same thing had happened him, we wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>heard about it. It wouldn't have been you would you

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be just right, you probably wouldn't hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know why because that guy would have been arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have been a fired, he'd been charged with

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<v Speaker 1>murder long time before all of this, immediately before before

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<v Speaker 1>the video hit it the social media, he would have

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<v Speaker 1>been charged, fired, arrested, locked up in all that. If

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd was white. There's a there's a Muslim. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a Muslim officer in Minneapolis now doing twelve

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<v Speaker 1>and a half years because he accidentally killed a white

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<v Speaker 1>woman and on duty. So I mean, I don't, I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it, But let me ask a question.

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<v Speaker 1>It was because I remember in twenty fourteen you criticized

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<v Speaker 1>President Obama and you said he should do more to

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<v Speaker 1>ease racial tensions in the wake of the grand jury

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<v Speaker 1>decisions to not indict the white police officers in Ferguson.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, if he wants to, he can inspire, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's called for in this situation. Shouldn't that

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<v Speaker 1>same advice apply to President Trump right now? Absolutely? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it applies to all presidents. Absolutely, no, no question.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's one of their roles is to calm circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>and situations like this. But look, can I ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep harping on white privilege and racism, would you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me how to end it? What? What can we do?

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<v Speaker 1>To end this so that you are not frustrated and

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<v Speaker 1>angry and feeling like whatever you feel like, because I

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<v Speaker 1>hate you guys as that you're angry all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So what can we do to stop the racism? Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, right, Um, as long as they as a

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<v Speaker 1>system of white supremacy, you know, they will always be

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<v Speaker 1>these type of situations. You know, it doesn't matter who's

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House. If that person is not willing

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<v Speaker 1>to dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy, if that person

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<v Speaker 1>is not willing to change legislation that disproportionately impacts black folks,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, you know what I'm saying, Like, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this a million times. Tell me what happened. You

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<v Speaker 1>had four years of Barack Obama. You had you had Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>white Americans voting for Obama because they wanted to say,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not racist, We're not a racist country. You had

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<v Speaker 1>people electing the first African American president in our history.

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<v Speaker 1>He sure for eight years. Why isn't there anything to

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<v Speaker 1>show for it that makes you less angry than you were? Then,

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<v Speaker 1>once again, it doesn't matter who's in the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>if that person is not willing to dismantle the mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>of white sumon. Guys, the elections don't matter now. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that when you when you, when we got to

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<v Speaker 1>stop acting like white supremacy isn't done by design. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole function of systemic racism is to marginalize black people.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very hard to get any damn near eighty

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<v Speaker 1>year old white man to change his system that's been

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<v Speaker 1>working for him in his family for years. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if it's Biden art Trump. So once again, we

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<v Speaker 1>need people that are willing to dismantle the mechanism of

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacy. Okay, let me let me ask you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you still vote Democrat? I vote for whoever

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<v Speaker 1>I think is the best candidate because Democrat has been

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<v Speaker 1>promising to fix your grievances for fifty years, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have the same grievances, you have the same complaints. They

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done a damn thing for you. They haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>punished the people that you think are responsible for the

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<v Speaker 1>racism and bigotry being done to you. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>keep supporting them? And you know I don't disagree with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't That's why I'm not letting nobody politicize

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<v Speaker 1>black pain and tell us that this is one person's

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<v Speaker 1>fault just because they are trying to win an election

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<v Speaker 1>in November. This is America's fault. And the war on drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>mass and conceration, said aggregation, slavery, all of those things

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<v Speaker 1>are and have been the proverbial knee on the back

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<v Speaker 1>of black folks neck and tell somebody is willing to

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<v Speaker 1>dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy, nothing is going to change. Well, Russ,

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't want to lose check of what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about here, because I know we're trying to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on George Floyd and what's happening with him and how

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<v Speaker 1>can we take some actionable steps to move forward and

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<v Speaker 1>what can be done right. So on your end, what

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<v Speaker 1>are some things that you feel like cops should be

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<v Speaker 1>charged with first degree murder? And I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>guys standing around ought to be charged. The other cops

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<v Speaker 1>that we're standing around, I think it's it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>end this. Look, we we are all aware of police brutality.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all aware of the actions that some wrong cops take,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's way too many of them against African American men,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's time to stop. And you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a policeman, I'm not an executive in a police department,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems to me that if those people end

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<v Speaker 1>up being charged and instead of shielded when they commit murder,

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<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't be the illegalized murder, and that would be

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<v Speaker 1>one way to at least get a start on making

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<v Speaker 1>sure it doesn't happen. This. George Floyd was, for everything

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able to tell, was a good guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a nice guy, had a family, and said did

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<v Speaker 1>not even come close to deserving having his life taken

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<v Speaker 1>from him, like, not at all, not at all. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>do you agree with the way that the media's portraying

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<v Speaker 1>everything You're in media, and you know media's white media,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, do you do you agree with how they

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<v Speaker 1>portraying everything that's going on right now? Oh? God, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we've gotten the truth out of most

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<v Speaker 1>media in three or four years. I don't know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's another reason why people are mad. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>they know they've been lied to. They were lied about

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<v Speaker 1>so many things for two three four years now, and

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<v Speaker 1>so now they don't know what to belief coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of the media, and I don't care what it is Fox, CNN,

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times, Washington Post. There doesn't seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere in our culture that people have trust in an

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<v Speaker 1>institution or series of institutions that provide a backstop and

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<v Speaker 1>reliability when something like this happens. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>creating or contributing the even more of the unrest that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening out there. Rush, How would you advise Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>to handle this situation? Because I see that he's having

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<v Speaker 1>some issues. He's calling people thugs, he's talking about sticking

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs on people if they try to come into

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. But then you see how he treats

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<v Speaker 1>people who are protesting to stay at home order and

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<v Speaker 1>they have guns, and they're white people, and they're fine people.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to know what advice would you

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<v Speaker 1>give to the president right now to say, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we need to do, and this is how you

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<v Speaker 1>should handle it, because I don't think that he's handling

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<v Speaker 1>it properly with his verbiage. I think what the president

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<v Speaker 1>ought to do is use the God given humility that

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<v Speaker 1>he has that and don't doubt me that he does.

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<v Speaker 1>He has. He has a lot of human nothing humble

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<v Speaker 1>about the president come out now there is even and

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<v Speaker 1>every rally you will see his ego, his appreciation the

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<v Speaker 1>people that show up. But it's it's simple matter of

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<v Speaker 1>understanding he's president of everybody here and trying to quell

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<v Speaker 1>these moments of unrest is something that would be really,

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<v Speaker 1>really to his advantage. I think what you said about

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<v Speaker 1>Obama in twenty fourteen applies when when you said if

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to, he can inspire, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>called for in his situation. But I look at the inspire,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he wants to insight. Okay, first, I do

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you about the inspiration. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>he can. I think he should. I think all presidents

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<v Speaker 1>should in terms of Trump and sighting. Look, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>has had everybody and their uncle telling lies and falsehoods

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<v Speaker 1>about him for three and a half four years now,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's probably a little fed up with it. Before

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<v Speaker 1>the shutdown happened, look at what black unemployment was, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a record low. The number of African Americans have

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<v Speaker 1>had jobs, the wages that were going up, and then

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<v Speaker 1>this virus comes along and the bottom has pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>from it. He's got to be frustrated. As as he

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<v Speaker 1>can be. And I'm not trying to carry his water.

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<v Speaker 1>But the black black unemployment rate started going down under Obama, touto.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's one thing that Trump takes credit for.

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<v Speaker 1>It had actually started under President Obama it did. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's then cast you a question to Russ. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward, all right, because you know the cops. Say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say the cops get arrested, the cop gets charge,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to jail. Great, how do we dismantle white

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<v Speaker 1>supremacy as a whole moving forward? Well, that's another show, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Because A I don't, I don't. You'd have to define

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<v Speaker 1>what it means to you? What what? Because I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I am a white supremacist, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's much white supremacy going on out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I need to have your define. See, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the divides. I'll tell you. I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>To me once again, this system is designed to work

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<v Speaker 1>for the people that it was built by, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>white folks, particularly all white men. And now that people

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<v Speaker 1>have had enough because those white folks I spoke about earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>who are out there, you know who really love black

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<v Speaker 1>people as much as they love black culture, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>out there standing with black folks and they want to

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<v Speaker 1>fight with us. I think this is the tipping point,

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<v Speaker 1>and we right now are at a point where we

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<v Speaker 1>can finally force America to live up to his grand

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<v Speaker 1>promises of liberty and justice for all and not just

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<v Speaker 1>liberty and justice for white folks. It has that's my

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<v Speaker 1>back to the beginning of it has. It's out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have done it. Look we're out of time here,

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<v Speaker 1>but would you guys like to do this again where

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<v Speaker 1>we pick it up right from this point and make

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<v Speaker 1>it maybe make a white supremacy, not if we're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna dance the whole time, if you if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have some honest conversation with us and stop telling us

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<v Speaker 1>things like white privilege, sharks and you don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacy is. If we could do that, yes, well, Rash,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very into having with having these into having these

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<v Speaker 1>conversations because I do think it is important for white

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<v Speaker 1>people to acknowledge the heart that they've inflicted on the

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<v Speaker 1>African American community and to be able to come forward

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<v Speaker 1>and admit that we can't even move forward until that happens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was attempting to do here with all of you

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<v Speaker 1>today on the white supremacy thing. I'm not in any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of denial. I just know that it's a politically

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<v Speaker 1>charged element of the Democrat Party's politics and liberalism. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do not cave or compromise or give one iotas

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<v Speaker 1>of an inch to liberalism no matter what. So white

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacy or white privilege is a construct of today's

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat Party, and I'm not going to agree with any

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of it as they put it forth. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>denying that there are certain individuals out there I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're better than other people, but structurally, institutionally white supremacy. See,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's don't You can't see You can't see how

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<v Speaker 1>white people are just treated better in this country and

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<v Speaker 1>even just as fire as how many people get pulled

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<v Speaker 1>over and by them. We don't have these conversations, but

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.160
<v Speaker 1>we gotta be honest with each other, like you gotta

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>people proportionally they're getting shot by the car. You set

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<v Speaker 1>these things up. You have no idea how if and

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<v Speaker 1>I can imagine what you're gonna say. If I sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and say you have no idea. How I have

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 1>been mistreated by various elements, various groups, various companies, various individuals,

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:38.639
<v Speaker 1>my whole life. It's called wife, and it happens, and

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 1>we're all mistreated. I've been fired nine times in my career.

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.200
<v Speaker 1>But have you ever got don done out your car

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<v Speaker 1>because you were driving a nice car? I got just

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 1>pat it down just for being black. I've had my

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<v Speaker 1>car kid, I've had my tires blown up for I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about throwing out your call by a police officer

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<v Speaker 1>because you're black, driving a nice car, or walking down

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<v Speaker 1>the street in Queen's the Air where you're from, and

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<v Speaker 1>the police pulling you over and patting you down. Has

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<v Speaker 1>these things happened to you? Don't talk about I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>got shot at, they didn't shout out my car. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about keying a car and popping attire. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about ouse. You're blacke nothing. I'm a hermit and the

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<v Speaker 1>reck close and I don't. I don't go out and

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<v Speaker 1>do all that kind of stuff. No, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's never happened to me. I'll grant you. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you one more question before we get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. However, I've never had the cops assumed

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<v Speaker 1>that I have. Well, I actually know that isn't true.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't rush stop. I have not pursued by the

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<v Speaker 1>cop so I was pursued, but absolutely I have. But look, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>let me thank you again forget no, no, let me

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<v Speaker 1>thank you again for giving me the time today and

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<v Speaker 1>I having access to you and at least the chance

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. I do appreciate it, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we can do it again. I look forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank thank you, Rushing. I didn't want to know why

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<v Speaker 1>you think rest in peace? That's right. All those white

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<v Speaker 1>kids out there on the front lines protesting and fighting

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<v Speaker 1>with black people, I salute them, But why do you

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think they're out there, Russ Because they're

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<v Speaker 1>fed up with what happened to George Floyd. They're fed

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<v Speaker 1>up with this situation that will not stop, that caused

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<v Speaker 1>all this and provided the opportunity for all this to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>meet the opportunity to protest and riot. There are more

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<v Speaker 1>Americans fed up with it than you know. That's my point.

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<v Speaker 1>What about America? Though? You don't think that the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that there's forty million people who file for unemployment the largest,

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<v Speaker 1>the largest unemployment rate since the Depression era. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that they're fed up about that too? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>already acknowledged that earlier in the conversation. You can't put

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<v Speaker 1>forty million people out of work. But I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>that you have a lot of sympatico people out there.

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<v Speaker 1>White people were marching in the sixties with Doctor King.

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<v Speaker 1>They were. In fact, Doctor King's death did not cause

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of strife in this country. King Jia is

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<v Speaker 1>dead because of racism and white supremacy. Uh well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's your answer to everything, then I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how we're we're going is he's dead because he was

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<v Speaker 1>fighting against racism in white supremacy. Thank you for the conversation. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a serious conversation, at times, an uncomfortable conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>even though we have vastly different viewpoints from Rush. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an open conversation to have because the dialogue must

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<v Speaker 1>be open beyond just our community if we are ever

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a real change from all people. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the breakfast Club