1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Countdown to kickoff continues. It's Week two, the Kansas City 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Jacksonville Jaguars coming up from EverBank Stadium, 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: and with the call of the game on CBS Sports. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: It's the reigning National Sportscaster of the Year from the 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: National Sports Media Association with the NFL on CBS since 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, our friend Iron Eagle. What's up, Birdman? 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: There was no championship belt, nothing like that whatsoever, JP, 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: So I appreciate it. I don't feel like I now 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: have to box those that want the title. We'll we'll 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: just do our thing and keep grinding away. Great to 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: talk to you. 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: You've got a sweet trip to Winston Salem out of it, though. 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: But I did have a canceled flight on the back end. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: So things happen. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: We've all been there, especially these days. All right, Are 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: the Jags ready for prime time? 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think you get certain games over the course 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: of a season that you know, feel a little different. 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: And in this league, you're always chasing something. So in 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 2: the case of Jacksonville, you're chasing the Chiefs. You're chasing greatness, 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: you're chasing stability, you're chasing credibility and even in the 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: case of Kansas City, they're chasing history, so it never stops. 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: Even if you win a championship, you still feel pressure 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: to perform and hit a certain standard. I think the 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 2: difference that you feel with this Jacksonville team this year 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: is that the standard is higher and the expectations are higher, 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: and rightfully so, They've proven to be a team that 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: are going to turn some heads over the course of 29 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: the season. And now it's certain games along the way 30 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: where people will make judgments and form opinions on you, 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: and this is one of those games. There's no getting 32 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: around it. 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: I nagle with us. This is a rare season for 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: any NFL team where you have almost everybody back from 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: a team that went to the playoffs a year ago. 36 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: There are no contract disputes yet, there are no free 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: agency things. Yet all those guys on defense are back, 38 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: most of the corn offenses back, plus a couple of weapons. 39 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: This is the year because after this season you might 40 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: lose some of these pieces. So this is the Jaguars 41 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: team to try to do it. 42 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about the reality of doing business in 43 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: the NFL, because that part of it plays such an 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: important role. Fans get caught up in who's on their 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: team and rooting for their squad, and that's how it 46 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: should be. But the business side of this is a 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: very important piece to the equation, keeping your guys together, 48 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: maintaining your roster and trying to playcate and keep everybody 49 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: happy because there are human emotions that come into play. 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: What you're getting paid, what you're playing time, are you 51 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: getting a chance to show your skill level so that 52 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: if it's not the team that you're going to re 53 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: sign with, it's somebody else in the NFL that's watching 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: your tape. But if you're not actually getting the playing time, 55 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: then you can't showcase your skills. So think about that. 56 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: Multiply it now by thirty two because every team deals 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: with it and that's part of being a GM and 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: an owner in the NFL. So you make a great point. 59 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: Jacksonville is set up this year to do some special things, 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: and now it's got to translate to the field. The 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: first really good sign of the season was the defensive 62 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: pressure that they showed in Week one. Anyone that watched 63 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: the Jaguars last year recognized they had to get better 64 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: in that department. They had to get to the quarterback. 65 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: They had to throw the timing off of the quarterback, 66 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: and now you're dealing with one of the best to 67 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: ever do it in Patrick Mahone. So the challenge is 68 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: out there. Can you do it again against a parental 69 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: perennial MVP candidate. 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that changes the whole dynamic. It's one thing 71 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: against a rookie quarterback, but then you've got a guy who, 72 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: if he keeps on this space, he might already be 73 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: in Canton with two Super Bowls, but you never know 74 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be one of the all time greats. 75 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: And the way he escapes and does things the defenses, 76 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, that's a huge question obviously this week. How 77 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: different are the Chiefs if Kelsey can't go, How different 78 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: of an offense are they? It doesn't feel like they're 79 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: as explosive of it as they were a couple of 80 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: years ago. 81 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they definitely don't have the game breakers that they've 82 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: had in the past. Of course, Tyreek Hill, even mcole Hardman, 83 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: you had some guys that could wreck a game. And 84 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: you just don't get that same mistique around the Chief's 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: offense that they once had. Now, I would tell you 86 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: their running game is probably a little more effective because 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: Pacheco is a punishing runner and if you get a lead, 88 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: which Patrick Mahomes is certainly capable of doing for the Chiefs, 89 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: they can milk clock. They can wear you down with 90 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: his physical running style, angry style. So it might be 91 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: a little bit more of that compared to what we 92 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: saw in previous years with the Chiefs. Here's the thing 93 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: with Andy Reid, He's a problem solver on offense. He's 94 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: going to figure some things out. We recognize that he's 95 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: very creative and if you give him enough time, he 96 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: will sort through the issues. So the idea that anyone's 97 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: figured out the Chiefs now after Week one against Detroit, 98 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: I don't buy into it. They have been able to 99 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: reinvent themselves a number of times. Even in their two 100 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: Super Bowl wins, it wasn't done in the same exact fashion. 101 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: So this is a Kansas City team that usually figures 102 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: it out when the smoke clears. 103 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: A egle CBS Sports with US Jaguars wide receiver room 104 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: and throwing the tight end on top of that Evan 105 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: Ingram pound for pound, is there a deeper wide receiver 106 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: room in the AFC, NFL? There might be better top 107 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: end number one talent. I don't know. Ridley might not 108 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: tell you that, But what do you think is overall 109 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: of this group? 110 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: You know, I had Cincinnati and Cleveland last week AP 111 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: and I would tell you Cincinnati would probably say the 112 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: same thing about their group. Although IRV Smith Junior at 113 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: tight end is not the proven commodity that maybe they 114 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: have had in the past. The reality is this pick 115 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 2: your poison if you're Jacksonville, because now with Ridley back, 116 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: and he is back, anyone that watched that game, watched 117 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: the highlights, recognizes that he can change things for Jacksonville offensively, 118 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: and that's already an impressive you add Ridley to it. 119 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: Considering what they did last year with Zay Jones, with 120 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: Christian Kirk and with Evan Ingram. This is a lethal 121 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: set of skill position players that Trevor Lawrence has to 122 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: work with. It's legit. It's going to be up there 123 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: and any ranking that you want to go over, and 124 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: I do think it's going to be one of those. 125 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: Each week, it might be somebody else emerging based on 126 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: the game plan. It might be Ridley one week, could 127 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: be Jones featured, the next week could be Ingram, the 128 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: following week, and then Christian Kirk goes back to his 129 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: seven catch, one hundred and twenty two yard one touchdown 130 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: performance that we saw last year. So really good signs 131 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: for Jacksonville and also signs of how to build a team. 132 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: That was a smart play if Ridley could get his 133 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: business in order. Obviously they had to deal with the suspension, 134 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: but also just the personal stuff of him getting back, 135 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: getting comfortable, and man, they may have hit a home 136 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: run on this one because he looked every bit of 137 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: the number one receiver you were hoping to get in 138 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: an acquisition with Atlanta. 139 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: Final thought with you the coaching matchup. Of course, Peterson's 140 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: been with Andy Reid since he was a player in 141 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay, going back that far, and has been an 142 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: assistant with him obviously, but now reads a win away 143 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: from tying Tom Landry on the all time wins list. 144 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: That's pretty remarkable. But seeing their styles, that's obviously the 145 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: bulk of where Doug Peterson's coaching ideas, style mindset of 146 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: how to build an organization came from. At some point 147 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: you got to go beat him, right he hasn't beat 148 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: him yet. 149 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's part of this evolution. Of being 150 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: a coach is odds are you're going to probably go 151 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: against your mentor at some point if you've been in 152 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: this league long enough. This particular relationship, I think is 153 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: even more unique just based on the fact that their 154 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: relationship goes back to the coach player day, so they 155 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: really know one another. They know every aspect, they know 156 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: each other at different points of their respective lives personally professionally, 157 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: Doug is fairly straightforward when you talk to him about 158 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: this stuff. He doesn't mince words. He learned how to 159 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: be a real NFL coach from Andy Reid, and that's 160 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: not taking anything away from others that may have mentored 161 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: him in his life. It's just the bulk of his 162 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: knowledge base is from Andy Reid, and not just how 163 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: to call a game or how to install an offense, 164 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: but how to run a program. And I think, to me, 165 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: you're around it every single day, so you get the 166 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: minutia I parachute in parachute out. What stands out to 167 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: meet now with Jacksonville is the professionalism in which this 168 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: team is run. And that doesn't happen in every situation 169 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: where a new coach and new assistants and a whole 170 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: new concept comes in culture is a big deal and 171 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: from day one you just felt a very seismic shift 172 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: from Doug Peterson taking over the program and changing the vibe. 173 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: And it's not a simple fix, it usually takes a while. 174 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: With Doug, it was immediate because he knew how to 175 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: do it, he had done it before, and he had 176 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: been around it for so long. And a lot of 177 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: that does have to do with Andy Reid and of 178 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 2: course Doug and just his personal touch and his bedside 179 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: manner and the way in which he treats people, his 180 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: staff members, his players, people within the organization that have 181 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: nothing to do with football. You know, that's just Doug 182 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: as a human being and it's gone a long way 183 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: and bringing credibility to this franchise again, kind of. 184 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: Early season salvo. Would this be if the Jaguars pulled 185 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: it off? Around the NFL? Or is it weak? Two? Right? 186 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: There's a lot of football. 187 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: Left it is, but you saw the reaction that Detroit 188 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: got after getting a Week one win. I just think 189 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: there's validation that comes with knocking off whoever's at the mountaintop. 190 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: And that's part of being the defending Super Bowl champion 191 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: is you're going to get everybody's best effort every single 192 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: week because they know if you beat the defending champs 193 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: that following week. In your facility, there's something else happening. 194 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 2: You feel something, You feel like we belong quote unquote, 195 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: and that's a big part of this game is does 196 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: that permeate around your practice facility, through your offices. There's 197 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: something about the NFL that's different than any other sport 198 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: based on the fact that you only play once a week, 199 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: and you win, you feel the reverberations of that. You lose, 200 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: you feel that too. It's hard to get that taste 201 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: out of your mouth. You do it against quote unquote 202 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: the best team in the NFL. Potentially, it's layered, and 203 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 2: I think it would mean a lot for Jacksonville to 204 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: get a win like this and for their program just 205 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: to remind everybody that it's going in the right direction 206 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: and good things are ahead. 207 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Great crew on the call this week, Charles Davis, Evan 208 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: Washburn is on the sideline. I am Eagle leads the 209 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: way though as always always a pleasure. I jp looking 210 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: forward to it. 211 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm just hoping they have a chocolate fountain in the 212 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: press rooms. That's just a unique experience. 213 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: I've got the frozen yogurt. Now, that's not good for me. 214 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,359 Speaker 2: I know, yeah, that could produce FLEM. I don't want Flem. 215 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: Who does nobody out there that says I want Flem. 216 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: We need more more. Will talk to you on Sunday 217 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: All right, Bud, all the best