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Speaker 3: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison, Welcome into.

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Speaker 4: Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by invisi Line in the

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Speaker 4: SWBC studio. I'm Nicole had to send alongside Brianna Aldrich,

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Speaker 4: Heish Morrison.

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Speaker 5: Ladies, good morning, what's up?

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Speaker 6: Was popping?

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Speaker 1: What up?

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Speaker 5: Good morning? Good morning, good morning. Recent I'm waiting for

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Speaker 5: her to finish. That's why.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, I wasn't dead.

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Speaker 5: Hi y'all doing.

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Speaker 6: Scene hire doing for real?

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Speaker 7: We'd we're good, We're good.

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Speaker 8: Got into the film a little bit more yesterday because

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Speaker 8: he'd be coming out when I got to wake up.

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Speaker 5: So gotten to the film a little bit more.

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Speaker 8: Definitely, we're gonna talk about this game a little bit

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Speaker 8: of bore and yeah you ready for the Panthers.

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Speaker 4: Well, speaking of that game, we had a star have

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Speaker 4: a breakout game. Well, I mean it's not really shocking

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Speaker 4: to us. We've been able to see uh see the

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Speaker 4: flashes that Ryan Flinoy has shown. It is okay Ryan

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Speaker 4: Flanoy has shown and it was obviously one of his

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Speaker 4: best games career high one hundred and fourteen yards receiving

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Speaker 4: yards on six catches and just talking about the impact

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Speaker 4: that you know Ryan Flanoy had, I mean, what impression

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Speaker 4: all the most ladies, what'd you got Breathe excuse me, honestly,

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Speaker 4: he I wouldn't say like you said, it was.

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Speaker 9: It was not a surprise that he got involved. It

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Speaker 9: was a surprise how he took over and how he

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Speaker 9: was utilized. I think it's fair see how he's surprised,

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Speaker 9: like he low key emerged as the what the Ceedee

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Speaker 9: Lamb role would be and he didn't flinch. And he's

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Speaker 9: kind of been like leading up to this point, like

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Speaker 9: it's just not like he came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 5: He has been utilized.

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Speaker 9: He has come up with big plays in moments that counted,

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Speaker 9: and Dak has you can kind of see that relationship brewing,

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Speaker 9: if you will. But it was just how he was utilized,

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Speaker 9: how much he went to him. But you really were

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Speaker 9: kind of putting no choice because we knew the sauce Gardner,

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Speaker 9: George Pickenson was gonna happen, and they did exactly what

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Speaker 9: we thought they were gonna do. They made sure somebody

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Speaker 9: was by George Pickens the whole time, and he was

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Speaker 9: really quiet until we got into second half, and obviously

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Speaker 9: he had that amazing touchdown that I'm sure we'll talk

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Speaker 9: about as well. But no, I was just impressed, surprised.

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Speaker 9: Any good words you can use, Flinoy And then to

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Speaker 9: think about where he was last season.

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Speaker 5: He was a camp favorite.

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Speaker 9: I remember him making some splash plays and then just

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Speaker 9: kind of went down, which happens a lot. But the

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Speaker 9: fact that he didn't go away, the fact that he's

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Speaker 9: gonna make Jalen Tolbert's job harder, the fact that we

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Speaker 9: have Mingo working his way back from injury. So that's

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Speaker 9: a conversation, and I think he's doing exactly what he

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Speaker 9: was brought in here to do. And he's impressive, and

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Speaker 9: he's so humble to you guys like to hear from

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Speaker 9: after the game, like talking about you know, he said

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Speaker 9: he praised for Ceedee Lamb's recovery, Cavante Turpin's recovery daily,

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Speaker 9: but at the same time, he's so thankful for the opportunity,

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Speaker 9: and I think he's just going to keep doing this

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Speaker 9: and he's going to make that wide receiver room that

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Speaker 9: much better. And just to think this is all happening

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Speaker 9: without seeding Lamb is just like you can't ask for more.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean, like you mentioned that, we got to see

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Speaker 8: him last year kind of have some spurts in training

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Speaker 7: Preseason. He had some drops in pre season.

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Speaker 8: I remember the conversation whereas, our life's too big for

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Speaker 8: him and things like that, and so he battled his

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Speaker 8: tail off to make this roster and I remember you.

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Speaker 8: I remember when roster cuts came out, we all sat

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Speaker 7: Then he comes into it this week.

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Speaker 8: And I felt like to your point breed you talk about,

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Speaker 8: you know, Pickens is, he was getting a little bit

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Speaker 8: more attention over there, and they just had Flinoyd do

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Speaker 8: those things where he thrives with the deep crossers, the

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Speaker 8: the ground and accelerate and also be so strong at

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Speaker 8: the catchpoint. One thing I noticed about him in campus

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Speaker 8: went the way he.

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Speaker 7: Snatches the ball out of there.

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Speaker 8: Like when you watch him, you see like the quick

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Speaker 8: this chance, to your point break, it really does put

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Speaker 8: say it, but it does. Like Jalen Tolbert has really

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Speaker 9: I was gonna say, watching his film and the ways

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Speaker 9: of the block I'm like, what are you getting from

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Speaker 9: Tolbert that you can't get from Flinoy at this point?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: And what can you get for the over.

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Speaker 9: They might need to be thinking about that the trade deadline.

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Speaker 9: I think they were talking about that when they brought

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Speaker 8: But I think I think that it really has open

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Speaker 8: and even with Mingo and those guys, like why rush them? Like, well,

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Speaker 8: I mean you want turping the CD back and everything.

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Speaker 8: But like even when Mingo Flinoy in his emergence to me,

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Speaker 8: like it's such a good way because if he's really liable,

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Speaker 8: he can separate, he can do all the receiver things

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Speaker 8: then when you see him play, you can just see

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Speaker 8: something special about him. You know what I'm saying, Ladies,

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Speaker 8: Like when you watch them, you're like, Okay, this guy's

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Speaker 8: Like you said me, and I think.

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Speaker 7: That's a big deal.

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Speaker 4: That's what I asked him yesterday on Cowboys Hour about like,

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Speaker 4: you know, how much pride do you take in being

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Speaker 4: able to kind of take on such.

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Speaker 5: A big role so early.

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Speaker 4: He said that he wasn't expecting to get this opportunity

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Speaker 4: this early in the season, but he said that, like

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Speaker 4: I always prepare like I'm gonna be starting. He's had

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Speaker 4: conversations with Dak specifically this year before the season started

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Speaker 4: about like a like always be ready because you just

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Speaker 4: don't know, like when your time's gonna come. So him

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Speaker 4: and Dak have really grown a bond and thinking about

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Speaker 4: his story. He came out of high school. Get this,

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Speaker 4: he was five to three ninety nine pounds massa.

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Speaker 5: His coach, we all fired, three five five, don't do that.

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Speaker 6: Don't do it?

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Speaker 7: People? Not the giant four and a half half thanks

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Speaker 7: over here.

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Speaker 4: But no, you're sick five three ninety nine pounds. His

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Speaker 4: freshman year, his coach, his high school coach, they had

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Speaker 6: To play college ball?

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Speaker 4: Everybody raising their hands, including him, and his coach looked

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Speaker 4: where he started to very familial Iowa Western Community College.

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Speaker 4: Tore his acl in the first right a cl first

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Speaker 4: Had to start taking physical therapy, was walking forty eight

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Speaker 4: forty eight minutes torn a cl.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I wasn't walking now, but get this.

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Speaker 11: He I'm screaming.

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Speaker 6: He started.

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Speaker 5: He tore a cl april. He said he was.

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Speaker 11: Playing by that September of his following season. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: The following year, obviously, he goes to Southeast Missouri State,

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Speaker 4: balls out there, gets an opportunity to go to the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: gets drafted six round. Just talking about that story alone.

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Speaker 4: This is a kid who's always been humble, has always

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Speaker 7: Hit after hit after hit, Like I don't know if

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Speaker 8: And that's why he's not shying away from this opportunity.

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Speaker 8: And that's why you know, we talk about it. This

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Speaker 8: sometimes you see some of these uh D two smaller

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Speaker 7: You see some of these HBCU kids.

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Speaker 8: they don't get some of the things that.

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Speaker 7: You know, some of these bigger school guys get.

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Speaker 8: They don't get the treatments, they don't get all of

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Speaker 8: Ryan Fillinoy, Like when you watch him on film, he

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Speaker 8: full go every play in the blocking.

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Speaker 7: Game and special teams.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he is just consistently effort like because I

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Speaker 8: think he under to your point in the cold, he

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Speaker 8: understands how quickly the moment can go, and he doesn't

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Speaker 8: want to squander it, and I think that hunger is

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Speaker 8: what we're seeing on the field right now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and we didn't mention, but the boy ran the

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Speaker 11: Okay, running back in high school?

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Speaker 5: Ain't that crazy? I'm played running back.

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Speaker 8: Please come see col Hutchison and brash him or Cowboys

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Speaker 8: Hour on Mondays.

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Speaker 7: Uh, this is the information you can get from going

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Speaker 4: Hinted towards it's putting a couple of guys on notice,

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Speaker 5: Chance, yeah, nah, for that was somebody.

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Speaker 9: I got to talk to darrin camp, and I was

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Speaker 5: He was talking about, like, you know, because I was like,

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Speaker 5: He was like, well, I came from the Panthers, which

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Speaker 9: I think this is a serious conversation for Jalen Tolbert,

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Speaker 9: Like I think there's been a serious conversation for Jalen

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Speaker 9: The offense was a mess last season for multiple reasons.

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Speaker 4: And I don't want to take credit from Tolbert either,

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Speaker 7: Two, tripping two.

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Speaker 4: It's fine, it's fine, this is his contract year. I

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Speaker 4: was really like a breakout year for Tolbert last year. Obviously,

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Speaker 11: He was expected to step up a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: Can't forget he did leave the team in touchdowns, so

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Speaker 6: So there's that.

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Speaker 4: But it's unfortunate that you do have Cavante Turpin who

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Speaker 5: Hello, Yeah, Like so it's it's tough.

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Speaker 4: But now, I mean, I don't know, what do you

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Speaker 5: Of do with Tobert?

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Speaker 11: Like do you this is contract year?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, I think I don't think, I mean,

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Speaker 8: to re sign him after this year. Anyway, I think

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Speaker 8: think if I'm Dallas, then I'm looking to try to

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Speaker 8: figure out how I can capitalize and help out this defense.

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Speaker 8: His offense is what it is. I think the offense

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Speaker 8: is gonna be fine. We got to see Wols. I'm

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Speaker 8: sure we're gonna talk a little more about the offensive

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Speaker 5: Need to because I be a two to three somewhere else.

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Speaker 9: And sometimes you I just think, with this room and

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Speaker 9: a business you you're thinking about right now?

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Speaker 5: How do we how do we if George Pickens has.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 9: I hate to break it to y'all, but a lot

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Speaker 9: of times when money talks and there's a cheaper option,

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Speaker 7: Way the Cowboys they better not well, they better not.

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Speaker 5: A couple of months. We can run this tape back

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Speaker 5: and we'll see.

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Speaker 7: But look it better or not?

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Speaker 5: I just made it.

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Speaker 7: Better not.

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Speaker 5: Huh.

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Speaker 9: Then they don't want to win because I mean, they

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Speaker 9: don't want to win. I want in the front office,

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Speaker 9: do y'all want win or not? On Tuesday morning, do

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Speaker 9: y'all want to win?

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Speaker 7: Do you want to win or not?

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Speaker 8: But I know, I just think to your point, I

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Speaker 8: based on that. Matt on One said, what's the meaning

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Speaker 8: of life? Matt, please, Matt please?

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Speaker 5: Matt had time.

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Speaker 8: Today it says when Lavari l.

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Speaker 7: Shout out to you for this question.

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Speaker 8: When CD interpret returned, how do you think the Cowboys

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Speaker 8: will work Florinois into the offense.

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Speaker 7: Better figure it out.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that's gonna be the trigger part because

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Speaker 9: I when when even when you talk about Jalen Tolbert

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Speaker 9: the same thing. Right now you have to go to

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Speaker 9: see what they're able to do when.

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Speaker 5: You bring Ceedee Lamb back in because.

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Speaker 9: Pickens was kind of trying to figure it out with

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Speaker 4: Right like, And another note to think something to think

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Speaker 6: What truly what Flinoy could do.

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Speaker 4: Granted he got some opportunities a week before, but that

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Speaker 4: obviously seen Yeah type type tape matters and so okay Flinoy,

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Speaker 4: which I'm not doubting that he can't, you know, continue

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Speaker 4: this performance, But what do you do now.

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Speaker 5: When the tape is out there?

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Speaker 11: Can you still kind of keep that level of play

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Speaker 8: That's I mean, Shoddy has talked about it, and I

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Speaker 8: think about your quarterback. Don't know what it's like to

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Speaker 8: There's gonna be times where he just you know, it's like, hey,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go like the big play to pickings.

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Speaker 7: He saw one on one on the outside.

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Speaker 8: He said, one on one with my big dog number three.

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Speaker 7: Well that's where I'm going. He just took a chance.

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Speaker 7: He just took it.

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Speaker 5: He gave he gave picks a chance.

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Speaker 8: I feel like sometimes they're still trying to figure out

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Speaker 7: Let's hold another story.

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Speaker 8: But I do think that the way that defenses will

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Speaker 7: You like, if you decide when you're.

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Speaker 8: Multiple, you gotta make you make people make business decisions.

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Speaker 8: So if you decide that you want to just play

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Speaker 8: seedee lamb, then pickings is gonna kill you.

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Speaker 7: Then Florinoid is gonna hurt you over the middle of

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Speaker 8: Like I think, the best thing about this offense and

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Speaker 7: Like you just said, bree just like you just said, Nicole,

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Speaker 7: how do you game plan for the next guy?

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Speaker 8: You can't like you're constantly trying to game plan for

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Speaker 7: That's what you want to do. You want to stress defenses.

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Speaker 7: So hopefully shoddy just keep sprinkling, you know some seasoning.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, season keeps the season and is Ryan sonoy.

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Speaker 11: Ladies, we're talking defense, yep.

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Speaker 7: Wire we talking about it.

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Speaker 5: They deserve to be talked about in a good way.

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Speaker 4: That part, well know, there's a question that was being

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Speaker 4: asked before we get to this part.

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Speaker 6: I actually know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get to this question first.

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Speaker 6: What happened to DeMont Clark?

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Speaker 4: Huh, that was a question by Lardandmon.

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Speaker 11: It's just snapcount's just going down.

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Speaker 9: You got you got a guy like Mars, so it's

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Speaker 9: under a I'm looking at.

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Speaker 4: The Yeah, I mean you got may slea foul, you

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Speaker 4: got Shamar James. Of course, Jack Sanborn and Kenneth Murray

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Speaker 4: were getting most of the snaps. But when Jack Sanborne

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Speaker 4: went out, Hello Shamar James and the way that one

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Speaker 4: he tackles his instincts, I mean, it's it's at a

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Speaker 4: high level right now, and so I think that's just

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Speaker 4: kind of.

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Speaker 5: What happened.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you got younger guys that are coming in.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't it's unfortunate.

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Speaker 9: I was about to say, I just think when he

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Speaker 9: wasn't active, what was that last week? I was like,

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Speaker 9: why is it when they it was the first time

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Speaker 9: because they were I just I just didn't get it.

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Speaker 5: But I didn't get it. Well, I think why he

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Speaker 5: was the one.

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Speaker 8: If I could be wrong, But I think also too,

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Speaker 8: I think it's because they Murray was a free agent, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they paid him trade, Yeah, they got to change.

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Speaker 8: He plays Murray right now is playing the mic because

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Speaker 8: Sanborne is out. But I think, well, I think he

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Speaker 8: was playing night before.

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Speaker 7: Anyway. I think it's also too because of the position.

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Speaker 8: I think him playing will and not being able and

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Speaker 8: them deciding to go with Murray over him and.

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Speaker 7: Plays a factor. But also too. I just feel like.

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Speaker 8: He's one of those guys that has unfortunately got caught

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Speaker 8: in the shuffle with coaching changes, coaches having preferences, coaches

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Speaker 8: having their guys, all those things. And hopefully he's set

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Speaker 8: free and he can go find you know, you know,

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Speaker 8: a home somewhere else, because this has kind of been

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Speaker 8: his story here and I know that that I don't

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Speaker 8: want him to lose his passion for football, you know,

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Speaker 8: being put in this position.

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Speaker 9: So he's another guy that would, if not a starter,

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Speaker 9: a very solid rotational piece for another team somewhere probably.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So that's all we had on that.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Lonnie, It's it's fine, all right, this question now,

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Speaker 4: we'll get to that question in a second.

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Speaker 5: But sorry, I know, my bad.

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Speaker 4: This defense talking ab is Cowboys defense and cool numbers

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Speaker 4: for you. Cowboys defense record a fifty point nine pressure

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Speaker 4: rate in Week five. That's the highest of the season.

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Speaker 4: They also averaged just two point three to two seconds

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Speaker 4: to generate pressure. That's the fastest of the season. Twelve

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Speaker 4: different Cowboy defenders record at least one pressure in the game.

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Speaker 5: Hello, we like fad.

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Speaker 4: Dante Fowler recorded eight pressures on twenty six pass rushes.

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Speaker 11: Tied for the second most in a game in his

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Speaker 11: career since.

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Speaker 4: At least twenty eighteen, and six of Fowler's pressures came

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Speaker 4: under two point five seconds. James Houston also recorded five

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Speaker 4: pressures in the games, high for the most in his career.

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Speaker 4: So when you look at those numbers, ladies, what do

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Speaker 4: you think.

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Speaker 8: I like that they rest the pastor, but they better

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Speaker 8: that they life together, stop and a run that's happy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we talked about this a lot.

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Speaker 7: Yes, this is that.

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Speaker 5: It's that's what I'm saying this, and that's we're back.

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Speaker 5: We're back for real. You don't jelly go together. We're

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Speaker 5: back for real because we got takeaways. Mm hmm. Thanks

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Speaker 5: to the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Sean.

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Speaker 5: I never talked about that a little bit. Yesterday he

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Speaker 5: did go he saw he said we can do good jobs.

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Speaker 5: And he actually said that their run game.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I know the numbers with Javonte and what

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Speaker 9: have you, but he said they didn't effectively run the

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Speaker 9: ball like he wanted.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'll talk about it.

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Speaker 5: So both both.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we've been we've been talking about how good they

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Speaker 9: are run in the game. But I think that's when

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Speaker 9: you're doing a little bit more on. You got to

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Speaker 9: win your one on one matchups, and those holes they'll

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Speaker 9: be taken advantage of.

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Speaker 5: And that's what you saw.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I's just the you watched the film, so

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Speaker 9: I know you saw those open holes because they were

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Speaker 9: pretty relevant from the press box where I was sitting.

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Speaker 7: So, I mean, it was a defensive tackles crazy enough.

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Speaker 8: Those guys really got moved off the ball a lot,

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Speaker 8: and and more than we've even seen with Kenny Clark

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Speaker 8: like that I've seen to this point. I think this

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Speaker 8: is maybe his worst game, you know, at the defensive

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Speaker 8: tackle spot. I'm gonna say this with all due respect,

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Speaker 8: I understand that I understand that they were giving Mazzie

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Speaker 8: Smith some opportunity because.

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Speaker 7: He's earned the reps in practice.

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Speaker 8: I just think that you you got better production from

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Speaker 8: Jatoeya and his ability to anchor because bebe, there were

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Speaker 8: just so many times that these guys were getting.

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Speaker 7: They were trying to reset the line of.

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Speaker 8: Scrimmage and it didn't it didn't work. So that's where

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Speaker 8: you saw some of those big interior runs that really

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Speaker 8: came from your interior guys, to be honest, and those

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Speaker 8: guys getting moved off the ball.

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Speaker 7: Even Solomon Thomas.

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Speaker 8: Although he's able to knife through, he's quick enough to

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Speaker 8: win off the line, knife through and to give some

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Speaker 8: of those guards and centers issues. But there are times

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Speaker 8: that when those bigger guys get their hands on him,

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Speaker 8: they're able to drive him out of place. So your

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Speaker 8: defensive tackles are getting turned, and then your linebackers are already,

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Speaker 8: you know, still trying to get comfortable with their run fits,

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Speaker 8: and they're getting driven off the ball and you got

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Speaker 8: guards on linebackers.

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Speaker 7: That's never a good day.

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Speaker 8: So for me, I do think that there needs to

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Speaker 8: be you know, we've seen those guys rush. They rushed

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Speaker 8: the passer well better in this game. How do they

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Speaker 8: find the balance between being able to do that when

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Speaker 8: they need to and also being sound in the run game.

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Speaker 8: That's something that I think they're gonna have to work on.

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Speaker 8: He even mentioned James Houston. Now, James Houston, I think

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Speaker 8: that's something that's kind of gone unnoticed with the conversation

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Speaker 8: of James Houston is they want him out.

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Speaker 7: There, but he is a bit undersized.

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Speaker 5: He is a bit.

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Speaker 7: Undersized, So how do they figure out how to.

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Speaker 8: Mix him in and still get good run stopping production?

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Speaker 8: On that edge because people have been attacking you there.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, yeah, I mean Breesehall averaged eight per carry,

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Speaker 9: so that is a yards per carry there. So I

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Speaker 9: think as much as he shined the Cowboys, being able

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Speaker 9: to get off the field, oh third down, being able

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Speaker 9: to get some of those big four down stops really

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Speaker 9: changed the way.

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Speaker 5: Why the score looks how it looks. But I fear

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Speaker 5: going forward.

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Speaker 9: I fear after I'm not gonna I mean the Panthers

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Speaker 9: they did something against the Falcons.

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Speaker 7: And they're gonna run that ball.

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Speaker 5: So it out.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, we go down already talking. Yes, he said

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Speaker 9: like that before.

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Speaker 7: That's crazy. I said, week we cool. That was cool.

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Speaker 5: He mentioned something to it too, though he addressed it.

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Speaker 5: He was he was he was funny.

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Speaker 9: He said, I guess all right, well we can't both

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Speaker 9: be talking smack. Come on, Shot, I'm tired of you.

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Speaker 7: But no, Shot, I like that energy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, put our seats on, big Dog, but I mean specific.

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Speaker 9: Back, We're gonna put our seat I love Shot.

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Speaker 8: It was like, yeah, you know, but uh, I do

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Speaker 8: you think with the linebacker position? My god, we gotta

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Speaker 8: figure out what's going on there because I see Kenneth

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Speaker 8: Murray his heart. I know in his heart he wants

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Speaker 8: to make these plays, but he does not have like

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Speaker 8: the processing and just he's just.

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Speaker 7: Not moving fast enough for me.

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Speaker 8: Like sometimes you just like there it is go brother,

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Speaker 8: go brother, and he's not.

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Speaker 7: And then Shamar James to his defense.

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Speaker 8: He's a nugget. He is still like the linebacker position

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Speaker 8: is so complex, y'all. They have to do so much,

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Speaker 8: Like I really feel like it goes understated with all

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Speaker 8: they have to do with reading defenses, and I just

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Speaker 8: think he is offenses and I think he is still getting.

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Speaker 7: A feel for the game.

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Speaker 8: You see some of his speed flash and things like that.

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Speaker 8: The more time he gets, he's gonna grow. Merestlely Afoult

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Speaker 8: is a loose cannon. That's the problem with him.

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Speaker 7: That's like, that's.

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Speaker 8: Honestly the issue with him is that like he is

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Speaker 8: so wired and stuff that he just plays.

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Speaker 5: But he's fun.

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Speaker 7: He's fun, but it ain't fun playing.

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Speaker 8: His right when he ain't playing his freaking assignment and

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Speaker 8: he overruns something and it's a big hole, you know,

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Speaker 8: Like I just.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 7: They have to do something for this second level too.

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Speaker 8: I'm stressed because because I do feel like the secondary

672
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Speaker 8: played their best game.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to the front four.

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Speaker 8: Shout out to the front four getting pressure. But this

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Speaker 8: but the secondary helped out the front four very much so.

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Speaker 7: And and I think one of the questions was about Flues.

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Speaker 5: Yes, oh yeah, hold.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm gonna get it one second, yea.

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Speaker 7: From Shoddy about Yes it was it's his I can

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Speaker 7: read it for you. I found so yeah.

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Speaker 8: The question says Barnacles, I don't no, I know he no,

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Speaker 8: he straight up and say that he got some sense. Okay, yes,

683
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Speaker 8: says do y'all think this from Michael? Do y'all think

684
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Speaker 8: Flues needs to go up to the booth to get

685
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 8: a better feel of what offenses are doing instead of

686
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Speaker 8: calling zones ninety percent of the time where Michael was

687
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 8: a little shady but also to a little shady. But

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys they but you know, I don't know about

689
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Speaker 8: him going into you know, in the booth.

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Speaker 7: That ain't my business.

691
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Speaker 8: But I will say in regard to the whole zone talk,

692
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Speaker 8: they did opt to play a little bit more man

693
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Speaker 8: this past game. We did get to see them jam

694
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Speaker 8: at the line more frequently, and I think that that

695
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Speaker 8: also helped your past rush get there. You gotta redirect defenders.

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Speaker 8: You cannot just keep giving them free releases off the line.

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Speaker 7: They're gonna cook you.

698
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 8: Even the most mad wide receivers gonna cook you with

699
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Speaker 8: free releases. So I think he is slowly but surely

700
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Speaker 8: kind of mixing in a little bit of man.

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Speaker 7: I think Wayya Thomas.

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Speaker 8: Being at the top, Yeah, helps Donovan Wilson be able

703
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Speaker 8: to come down into the box a little bit more

704
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 8: because they trust him a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: And Darn Bland.

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Speaker 7: Feels like he's still figuring he's coming back.

707
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Speaker 8: We gotta be fair, Yeah, Like he's still working through.

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Speaker 7: And he can't catch a break every time his feats,

709
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Speaker 7: I know.

710
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Speaker 5: And I still rather have him out there than others.

711
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 7: I still rather have him out there with the.

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Speaker 5: Feat at seventy five percent. Now we're gonna need to

713
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Speaker 5: pray over his feet.

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Speaker 9: You see what Trayvon had said in the locker room

715
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Speaker 9: about playing more ban. I thought it was so funny

716
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Speaker 9: because of course that's been asked about, and he's like,

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Speaker 9: we did play more man. I went up to ebra

718
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Speaker 9: Flus after the game and I asked him, how did.

719
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Speaker 5: You think we did? Playing more?

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Speaker 16: Like?

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Speaker 9: I thought that was so funny because I mean, he's

722
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Speaker 9: persistent about what he wants. But I feel like they're

723
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Speaker 9: listening to each other. And Shottenheimer said, that's what you want.

724
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Speaker 9: If your players don't feel comfortable to come up to

725
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 9: you and say, hey, i'm can.

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Speaker 5: We try this? Can we? Then we're not doing our

727
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Speaker 5: jobs right.

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Speaker 9: So I'm glad those conversations are being had, especially with

729
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Speaker 9: Trayvon being a leader in a voice in that room.

730
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Speaker 9: So I think it's dope that because I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 9: it wasn't just Trayvon. I'm sure ebra Flus also had

732
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Speaker 9: a hand in that conversation, just kind of taking accountability

733
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Speaker 9: after Trayvon last week going into the game was like, hey,

734
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Speaker 9: we want to play more.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 11: I know he saw that press conference and was like,

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Speaker 11: all right, let me go figure this out.

738
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Speaker 5: And it goes.

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Speaker 4: It's across the board for this whole coaching staff, even

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Speaker 4: I know Shady h. Dak in the postgame presser had

741
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Speaker 4: mentioned how you know Shoddy takes accountability in the play

742
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Speaker 4: calling when he doesn't necessarily do well and things don't

743
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Speaker 4: go right. So yeah, I think it's across the board.

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Speaker 6: My bad.

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Speaker 5: Are you sure what you got?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 5: Girl? You the house girl, but you got my phone.

748
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Speaker 8: But I do think something that Abra Flu said this

749
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Speaker 8: stood out to me when he got to talk last Thursday,

750
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Speaker 8: was he said, you know, he also too has been

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Speaker 8: working through uh got availability And I think I think

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Speaker 8: some of the stuff that we saw before with the

753
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Speaker 8: decisions he was making, even with maybe some of the

754
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Speaker 8: more zones, some of the more number one, you got

755
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Speaker 8: two guys of two of your corns is coming back

756
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Speaker 8: from injuries, so he has the factor in like even

757
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Speaker 8: if they don't want to be ramped up, he no,

758
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 8: he like, hey, I know you want to run, man,

759
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 8: and you think you can turn on a dime, but

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Speaker 8: we let's let's acclimate a little bit.

761
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Speaker 7: Let's get you comfortable.

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Speaker 8: Then on top of that, I think he mentioned like

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Speaker 8: the personnel I think you do you should feel more

764
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Speaker 8: confident with the d ron Bland and a Trayvon Diggs

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Speaker 8: out there. So I think he mentioned some of the

766
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Speaker 8: availability stuff factoring into some of the decisions he's made.

767
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Speaker 8: Hopefully he continues to make.

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Speaker 7: These decisions moving forward.

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Speaker 10: Boys Talk, and still talk about the decisions Iberflus has

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Speaker 10: been making, specifically what we've seen last week against the Jets.

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Speaker 4: I know we were still We're gonna stick with still

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Speaker 7: Uh but how much tomorrow?

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Speaker 5: How much?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Sorry, lost my train of thought.

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Speaker 4: Iberflus talked about the decisions he's starting to make and

829
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Speaker 4: obviously the trust is there as well.

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Speaker 11: Something I want.

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Speaker 4: To ask you, ladies about, is how he's kind of

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Speaker 4: doing things a little bit more twists and stunts with

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Speaker 4: this defensive front. I used to specifically, I know that's

834
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 4: something you love. And one of those plays, specifically the

835
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: sack I believe it was James Houston and Kenny Clark

836
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: and how they kind of elsa digezu. It took like

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Speaker 4: an angle. Obviously Kenny Clark came around, and you know,

838
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 4: obviously the sack was able to happen.

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Speaker 7: Talking about the loop, the little loop, yeah around.

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Speaker 4: Talk about that and just the trust that he's starting

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Speaker 4: to kind of build with those guys to.

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Speaker 11: Expand the playbook a little bit more.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I have to think I think that they

844
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 8: understood that they had to affect the pass or like you,

845
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 8: you put them in a position to where you.

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Speaker 7: Know that they have to pass.

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Speaker 8: I think that is a big thing about this offenses

848
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 8: and putting teams in position to where they have to

849
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 8: pass and this past rush can just kind of get

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Speaker 8: after it, and that allows Flus to kind of open

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Speaker 8: up his playbook and do some things that we haven't

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00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 8: gotten to see. We've seen, you know, blitzes like that

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00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 8: when Michael Parsons was here. It's a very common common

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Speaker 8: thing where you loop a guy around and you need

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Speaker 8: a guy that can get there. Which is you know,

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00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 8: important in this conversation that James Houston decided is the

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Speaker 8: guy that decided to be there.

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Speaker 7: But also did I.

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Speaker 8: Think got some good penetration this game as well. Dante

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Speaker 8: Falloi talked about him yesterday. These guys, Like, if you're

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Speaker 8: seeing that they're winning off the line, then you are

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Speaker 8: open to do a little bit more with them from

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Speaker 8: the past rus department. And again the Cowboys went up

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Speaker 8: against an offensive line that I thought struggled with this.

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Speaker 8: That is what was rewarding about it in Niculet is

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Speaker 8: that you know what we're seeing. I think, I'll say

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Speaker 8: for me because I don't know nothing about nothing, but

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Speaker 8: I got but seeing like flu see what we saw

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Speaker 8: on film and then they attack it. That's encouraging because

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Speaker 8: you know that they are trying to they're really trying

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Speaker 8: to play the matchup game and not just trying to

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Speaker 8: play their game. Because at that point, he's been just

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Speaker 8: rushing for and he's just been doing you know.

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Speaker 7: Just the base level stuff.

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Speaker 8: But he's like, okay, no, I see that there are

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Speaker 8: some weak points within y'all's interior that we can get guys.

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00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 7: We can get guys free and be able to you know,

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Speaker 7: affect the passer.

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Speaker 8: And I thought that was awesome Donovan and Zuaku is

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Speaker 8: coming on with it. You hear me, I feel like

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00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 8: he's the game aim has started to slow down for him,

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00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 8: but also too, he's just I just think the processing

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Speaker 8: from him, and that he's he's faster at reading what

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00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 8: the offensive alignment is doing and what they want to

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Speaker 8: do if they give up their chest and.

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Speaker 7: He'said, Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm just gonna go right

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Speaker 7: through you.

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Speaker 8: Like so, I think Donovan is a rokus growing as

889
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 8: a past rusher as well. But it was it wasn't

890
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Speaker 8: a pretty day on the ground from for for the

891
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 8: defensive ends is either. I mean even even Clowney got

892
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Speaker 8: pushed off screen a couple of times.

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Speaker 7: I said, where is he stop? Where him?

894
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Speaker 5: Or are they taking it for him?

895
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Speaker 7: By he hain't on the screen no more?

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Speaker 5: And I don't like that, honestly, I don't like that.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, like Flus is getting some I know he's

898
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Speaker 7: gotten some crap.

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Speaker 5: Baby.

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Speaker 8: He trying to make He's trying to make linemade at

901
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Speaker 8: a limits.

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Speaker 5: You hear me, what do they say a dollar out

903
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 5: of fifteen cents?

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Speaker 11: That's what they say for I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, I feel like Chris Chris is That's

906
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 8: something I've never heard.

907
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Speaker 5: I feel like that's what he's saying.

908
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Speaker 9: But no, I mean to just to point pick you

909
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 9: up back at what I usually just said. I feel

910
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Speaker 9: like Sunday was the best team defense and they were

911
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Speaker 9: able the scheme is that what he was doing rush,

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Speaker 9: But you also mentioned that the corners had their best game.

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Speaker 5: The DB's like, to.

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Speaker 9: Be honest, like you saw people celebrating when they got

915
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Speaker 9: the pass rush because they saw that, Okay, I'm out

916
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Speaker 9: here taking away being where I'm supposed to be. So

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00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 9: justin fields is looking down and seeing this ain't option

918
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Speaker 9: for him, and that's also helping them up front. So

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Speaker 9: that stood out to me one hundred and ten percent

920
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Speaker 9: because you just haven't seen that. It's just been so

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Speaker 9: much open field. Somebody always looked lost up there in

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Speaker 9: the front. And yes they didn't win every matchup, but hey,

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Speaker 9: whatever they're doing, build on it. Because this was the

924
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Speaker 9: best talk that we've been able to have about defense.

925
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 9: And Eberflus has probably been back there tearing out his

926
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Speaker 9: hair trying to figure out and like also said, the availability,

927
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Speaker 9: like he hasn't had his guys, and it is exciting

928
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Speaker 9: to think about you still have some people coming back

929
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Speaker 9: that are going to make a difference in this game.

930
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Speaker 9: Maybe not right away because there's always a ramp up,

931
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Speaker 9: but the fact that you're gonna get some of your

932
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Speaker 9: better guys. I saw something with mister number zero about

933
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Speaker 9: after the bye week. They expect him to be closer

934
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Speaker 9: after the bye week, which is exciting, right because what

935
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Speaker 9: is that November?

936
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Speaker 5: And those were those games.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna matter.

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Speaker 9: So if you can just hang in there, keep stacking

939
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Speaker 9: the wins against these winnable teams, because it's gonna get

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Speaker 9: real tough.

941
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Speaker 5: It's gonna get real tough.

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Speaker 11: What position are are you going to getting?

943
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Speaker 7: I'm struggling. It's feeling like you need a linebacker. Feeling

944
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Speaker 7: like you need a.

945
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Speaker 8: Linebacker defense for sure. Were offense or defense isn't or

946
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Speaker 8: or a pass rusher whatever you do. And again, I

947
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Speaker 8: know it's kind of backwards to be like I just

948
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Speaker 8: get rid of a pass to go get one.

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Speaker 7: We don't care. People didn't expect.

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Speaker 8: People didn't We made a mistake. Some people didn't expect

951
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Speaker 8: for the offense to be this efficient. But I just

952
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 8: don't think you can waste it. You can't waste it.

953
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Speaker 8: You gotta do something.

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Speaker 9: I feel like the Cowboys are closer than what I

955
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 9: thought they would be at this time the season, though.

956
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Speaker 8: Boom and when you look across the team, to look

957
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Speaker 8: across the NFL. Ain't nobody, no world beater, ain't nobody.

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Speaker 10: No.

959
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Speaker 9: The league is weird right now, especially the AFC. Oh

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Speaker 9: my god, last night y'all watched that.

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Speaker 7: I think it.

962
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Speaker 9: I wasn't even into the game until I was into

963
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Speaker 9: the game, and I was like, what's going on out here?

964
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Speaker 7: I think it? No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 8: I mean the NFC is the same way. It's like

966
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Speaker 8: even within your division. I think that Washington game.

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Speaker 7: Is gonna be big. It is, but we gotta get there.

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Speaker 7: Let me focus, Carolina, let me focus bad.

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Speaker 11: It's one game at a time, sister, take our first break.

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Speaker 5: You want to come back, come back at night?

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Speaker 4: It just talking about it's crazy. Uh yeah, No, we

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Speaker 4: are done for the day. A little back here at

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Speaker 4: eight am tomorrow. We're Girls Talk Boy Stalk, presented by

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Speaker 4: a visit line for Brianna Audridge, Aisha Morrison, I'm Nicole Eddison.

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Speaker 11: Will be back here tomorrow.

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